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The Orville by Weyoun 5 - Tue, 16 May 2017 12:51:11 EST ID:0JMozmZI No.59221 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Uh, guys.


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Sarah Sisko - Mon, 09 Apr 2018 08:21:53 EST ID:SfiMcBo4 No.64295 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The Gay T-Rex's Procedural Generation of Butts Pounding My Butt
Kimara Cretak - Mon, 09 Apr 2018 13:47:58 EST ID:5VzmgF16 No.64296 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Are you implying Chuck Tingle fails the Turing Test?
Curzon Dax - Tue, 10 Apr 2018 20:06:30 EST ID:MoFvl08z No.64298 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My Gay Functionalist Theory of Mind Is A Handsome Gay Unicorn Lawyer In My Butt and Pounds My Gay Butt In The Chinese Room With His Gay Strong AI Hands
the newest release from two-time Hugo Award finalist His Imperial Majesty Dr. Sir Chuck Tingle, Esq., D.D.S., PhD, two-time Hugo Award Finalist
Groundskeeper Boothby - Wed, 11 Apr 2018 16:53:43 EST ID:6C6kcMFd No.64306 Ignore Report Quick Reply
He also wasn't blocked from receiving his award, like the other writers nominated by the Puppies. Which kind of proves their point. He's a horrible writer, but they gave him the award because he said the right political stuff.
Biddle Coleridge - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 17:20:04 EST ID:5VzmgF16 No.64363 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I think we can all agree that Chuck Tingle needs to write at least one scene for The Orville. Just one scene.
Shit, he may have...remember that weird Yafit / Clare sex?

Ferengi based on Faringi? by Senator Kimara Cretak - Wed, 11 Apr 2018 11:19:42 EST ID:YcOvQSq6 No.64301 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>mfw Faringi is a word the Indians used for foreigners, particularly the greedy Englishmen of the East India Company


Big ears
Bad teeth

Holy shit guys the Ferengi are a caricature derived from the English East India Company and Colonial India.
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Elim Garak - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 12:45:04 EST ID:yDo2d8GY No.64353 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think the thing to remember is that most good writers and we're assuming that this is deliberate and so they're good won't just rip off a single concept. A lot of writers trying to explore an idea will research similar fictional and real examples to get an idea of how it works/plays out so they can write something more realistic or at least that complies with how people think it works. They probably had to make a mercantile race and so they went and researched a bunch of famous trading organisations and nations and skimmed bits until they had unique but still familiar society. The "Yankee trader" thing was chosen as the most familiar point of reference but I think this thread makes it clear they took ideas from at least one other group.

I decided to look into the facts and see if there's more parallels. The UK woman's suffrage movement came about during the later half of the victorian era pretty much kicking off seriously as the east india company stopped trading actually, it ticked over before that. Maybe this is an intentional parallel or maybe not. Actual suffrage only occurred after men went to die in a big muddy hole for basically nothing and someone had to keep the lights on back home, after they stepped up and proved they could do it it was much harder to deny them a vote. However at that point there'd been a lot of campaigning. I feel like these are inevitable coincidences rather than deliberate. If this happens, this would happen around then and this follows. Of course Ishka could also be a reference to Lily Maxwell (who got to vote due to an accident in admin) and that would make Rom the Ferengi John Stuart Mill. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Stuart_Mill

At first I thought this was a reach but if it's a coincidence it's bloody huge one. Mills advocated collective bargaining (through workers electing a representative), considering the environmental cost of his actions, women voting and was a utilitarian. When I studied economics I know about him being a utilitarian but I didn't realise that was he was a polymath genius and all around decent guy. Still sitting moderately left of centre in the modern world. Anyway, Rom formed a union, vo…
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Elim Garak - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 12:46:35 EST ID:yDo2d8GY No.64354 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Though also Mills definitely did not advocate the prime directive and that takes us full circle.
Seskal - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 18:52:04 EST ID:5VzmgF16 No.64359 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The Prime Directive is a philosophically recent invention.

Arguably, it could be the cause of the Fermi Paradox.
Kornan - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 16:37:13 EST ID:19YtC3EI No.64361 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I guess the point of comparison would be how everyone else viewed the IRL ferengi with regard to women. Even though I view it as a natural part of their hierarchical society that they treated everybody like slaves, the fact that this included women nearly categorically, and all the invaders--being "businessmen"--would have been male, is something that would have stuck out to people.

Colonials liked to justify their shit by projecting it on the rest of the world, like the idea that the planet is in a perpetual state of war (fuck u just btw immanuel kant) which is convenient since it justifies literally anything and is still the basis of Western foreign policy, or that patriarchal structures are both natural (despite it being more a reflection of a war economy) and primitive (which they even bake into their origin myths), and must therefore apply to everyone. But I can completely imagine foreigners being all "holy shit these niggas are fancy barbarians" the whole time and it being completely lost on the Europeans.
Biddle Coleridge - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 17:14:51 EST ID:5VzmgF16 No.64362 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No doubt. One thing the Ferengi are is sort of an anti-Federation that is used to reflect on our own history of Gentile Barbarism. They only work as a literary device when the viewer is sitting where they are, somewhere between Federation and Ferengi on the socio-political plane graph doo-hickey.

I'll be honest though, I need to rewatch DS9 to really get more info on them. That is where all the canon really got made.

The Cage by Deanna Troi - Wed, 21 Feb 2018 17:28:10 EST ID:0f+rF4sg No.63987 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Can we get a thread going about the pilot that started it all?

Is it Canon?
Is it good?
Did you enjoy it?
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Ulani Belor - Sun, 04 Mar 2018 09:02:16 EST ID:TinR0Zso No.64093 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Geordi La Forge - Mon, 12 Mar 2018 13:11:58 EST ID:VYdhcYIi No.64138 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Is it Canon?
As of its airing on television in the 80s, it is canon. It's no more inconsistent than all the silly shit in TOS and TAS people like to point out, and then forget about because TNG/etc. established something better.
>Is it good? Did you enjoy it?
Strangeness aside, I think it's a good episode.

>Also, there's that awkward scene where Nimoy puts a big grin on his face.
Data did the same thing in Encounter at Farpoint. Just trying to adapt.
The Doctor - Mon, 26 Mar 2018 20:06:03 EST ID:uru3oj0T No.64224 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I enjoyed it.
Curzon Odo - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 03:00:24 EST ID:4SeMe49B No.64312 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>is it Canon
How is it not? They even acknowledged it in The Menagerie.
>Is it good
I think it works better when a part of The Menagerie. But as far as Trek pilots go it's pretty decent.
>Did you enjoy it
Dr. Telek R'Mor - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 11:37:12 EST ID:1JdVWEfn No.64360 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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It's probably not good to most non-trek people. It's sort of cheesy, but I like it a lot. It's canon of course.


Bump When Watching IV by C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 29 Mar 2018 08:52:13 EST ID:vBMrFUeP No.64230 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Continuing from the previous thread >>53706, bump when watching Star Trek.

If ya smell what Tsunkatse is cookin’
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Guinan - Fri, 20 Apr 2018 20:18:26 EST ID:Zu8fWtqQ No.64351 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I stand by this headcanon
Gor - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 16:52:05 EST ID:l5TvN503 No.64355 Ignore Report Quick Reply
But why would Data go mad? Wouldn't he only go mad if his neural net or circuits or whatever had degraded?
Guinan - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 17:18:51 EST ID:RM6ExVLb No.64356 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You don't think his neural net would degrade after two years in the hard vacuum of interstellar space, being pelted constantly from cosmic rays? If you've ever had to reset your router for instance, it was likely because of one of the very few errant cosmic rays that was able to penetrate the natural deflector field generated by the earth
Trentin Fala - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 18:20:55 EST ID:oDV8iW5L No.64357 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>interstellar radiation causes router interruptions
God damnit cosmos can you fuck off for a minute

On topic though Iirc positronic nets are fairly delicate right? I'd imagine if Data was trapped in space shit would go wrong pretty quick, plus Pakleds aren't exactly known for advanced computational repair
Seskal - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 18:37:19 EST ID:5VzmgF16 No.64358 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Implying Data wasn't well shielded from random cosmic rays that would make him do shit like become fully functional on Riker's beard....

Rascals Episode 2: Wesley's Revenge by Guinan - Sun, 14 Aug 2016 02:39:11 EST ID:sehZ/Igr No.55667 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Guys, it finally happened. 4 years, 2 months, 15 days, 18 hours, 32 minutes and 19 seconds after it was first created, the rascals thread has sunk into the dark abyss where only netjester can roam.

RIP in peace creepy thread.
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David Marcus - Tue, 09 Jan 2018 13:00:55 EST ID:pl9xfrjv No.63390 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>say goodbye
lol no my S-Rank pussy eating game is about to go /ss/-Rank and those slutmoms will provide the rest
Marla Gilmore - Wed, 10 Jan 2018 00:47:04 EST ID:ZlJp0gcI No.63401 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>starving because you can't have a job.

Seems incredibly doubtful based on what we know of the UFP.
Governor Torak - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 19:10:08 EST ID:cPGYbo9a No.64290 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>tfw your children will not get to see the original thread
Travis Mayweather - Tue, 10 Apr 2018 20:26:19 EST ID:mbyjGwXO No.64299 Ignore Report Quick Reply

why did this hilarious pic have to be ruined with a bottom of the barrel gutterslut that is completely unrelated to trek?
Guinan - Wed, 11 Apr 2018 01:34:00 EST ID:YgZcIPNC No.64300 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Quit talking about TPol like that

Kelpien tastes like... by Commander Dolim - Mon, 05 Feb 2018 20:16:12 EST ID:5VzmgF16 No.63666 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What does Kelpien taste like, do you think?

I want to say chicken, but raising a Kelpien to full size seems like a lot of work to just get the equivalent of like 40 chickens worth of meat. I mean, it must be tasty enough to make them worth eating in a world of high quality food replication, but not tasty enough that humans would just mow down the whole species like so many Doritos. Maybe up there with the finest toro or Kobe beef.

I say we eat Saru just to find out. Like, his leg. Starfleet can grow back Klepien legs, right? I mean, it is the future and all. So yeah, we should see what Saru tastes like. He's a whiny bitch anyway. He won't be missed.
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Worf - Fri, 06 Apr 2018 11:48:01 EST ID:gKrbqKMn No.64278 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Cloning isn't outlawed anywhere, other than mabye earth.
Composer Delvok - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 00:16:23 EST ID:tHkrpXO+ No.64283 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I imagine it tastes like Patagonian Toothfish
Admiral Hayes - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 04:54:21 EST ID:ZR416Pa+ No.64285 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Like Duck maybe? Greasy and gamey?
Governor Torak - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 09:04:56 EST ID:l5TvN503 No.64286 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Your mom is greasy and gamey
Simon Tarses - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 13:29:10 EST ID:5VzmgF16 No.64288 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Your mom tastes like a Kelpian and your dad smells like a Klingon....

Starfleet Canon by Senator Ocelot - Wed, 28 Mar 2018 22:21:09 EST ID:aK3MREZj No.64228 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I think we should remember that those boldest first journeymen would have been discovering things which rocked the entire Earth. That those things which they discovered would be televised for them as they were for us.

And the Starfleet of Picard, Sisko and beyond, like the rest of mankind, were by necessity shaped by those first forays.

What did Earth feel when on Stardate 3468.1, Starfleet discovered Olympus and met Apollo?
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Lon Suder - Mon, 02 Apr 2018 08:54:14 EST ID:aK3MREZj No.64246 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> Picard wasn't impressed
Picard was a gleaming warrior, why else would Starfleet put him there.

Captain Paul Rice - Mon, 02 Apr 2018 15:04:52 EST ID:5VzmgF16 No.64247 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>I feel that finding "god like" aliens would encourage atheism.

The Goa'uld beg to differ!
Vash - Wed, 04 Apr 2018 11:17:41 EST ID:aK3MREZj No.64263 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Amanda Grayson - Thu, 05 Apr 2018 12:47:57 EST ID:F7yu1kOm No.64272 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I suppose I would have to add the proviso you'd need to be sophisticated enough to conceive aliens and ideally have met other aliens.

If your civilisation is sophisticated enough to have captain Mcguyver then you're not falling for the Ardra's scam.

And if you do than a passing alium will quickly reveal the BS it is. As Ardra learned. But the fact we can even write tv like that shows we'd be less susceptable.
Robin Lefler - Fri, 06 Apr 2018 11:21:44 EST ID:aK3MREZj No.64277 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Are you sure it's all us, though?
For all we know the backlot was on Mars, or fucking Epsilon Digit X, and someone just mailed the tapes in to Paramount.

Although in retrospect, I guess the distinction is irrelevant. We have assimilated.

/10Forward/ RP thread (2018 Edition) by Guinan - Mon, 01 Jan 2018 03:45:27 EST ID:Hzew1D4O No.63287 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Welcome to Ten Forward. What'll it be?
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Porthos - Sun, 04 Feb 2018 22:04:36 EST ID:ZBzcw/Bu No.63648 Ignore Report Quick Reply

hey guys im a noob here. only series i have watched is TNG. in these pics it looks like colm meany / miles o'brien is in TOS? or is it a photoshop or doppleganger or something? google said he was only in TNG/DS9
Travis Mayweather - Sun, 04 Feb 2018 23:34:07 EST ID:2G6oewNa No.63650 Ignore Report Quick Reply
DS9 time travel episode: Trials and Tribbil-ations.
Dr. Yuris - Mon, 05 Feb 2018 04:16:53 EST ID:CqzmvBTm No.63651 Ignore Report Quick Reply
they basically photoshopped an entire DS9 episode into a TOS episode
Kimara Cretak - Tue, 03 Apr 2018 00:45:31 EST ID:Viic1J5I No.64249 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Guinan - Thu, 05 Apr 2018 05:33:05 EST ID:YgZcIPNC No.64271 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Go to the holodeck for that, Noonien

23²³ by Guinan - Tue, 03 Apr 2018 01:16:17 EST ID:UiNXXAG4 No.64252 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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The number 23 seems to come up quite a lot in Trek... from starbase 23 to things being 23 light years away, it seems to have some sort of Q-tier influence over reality.

So.. what episode 23 is your favorite? Which is the worst? Here's the options:

>TOS: A Taste of Armageddon
>TOS: The Omega Glory
>TOS: All Our Yesterdays
>TNG: Skin of Evil
>TNG: Sarek
>TNG: The Host
>TNG: I, Borg
>TNG: Rightful Heir
>TNG: Emergence
>DS9: Crossover
>DS9: Family Business
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Guinan - Tue, 03 Apr 2018 04:11:40 EST ID:UiNXXAG4 No.64256 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Wesley Crusher - Tue, 03 Apr 2018 10:10:42 EST ID:mbyjGwXO No.64257 Ignore Report Quick Reply
honestly i thought the ending to i, borg was such fucking cheese. "data tell the borg to go to sleep" *all the borgs blow up* "EARTH IS SAVED"
Q - Tue, 03 Apr 2018 14:54:36 EST ID:jW66SoS9 No.64258 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You're thinking of "Best of Both Worlds" not "I, Borg."
Fun fact about that episode -- it's a season ender cliffhanger, and the lead writer for part 1 was afraid he would be fired between seasons so he intentionally created a completely outlandish, impossibly difficult predicament with no idea of how to fix it so that the producers would have no choice but to bring him back to resolve his own mess. Maybe the solution is so cheese because it was literally the only way he could see out of it?
Guinan - Thu, 05 Apr 2018 03:56:27 EST ID:YgZcIPNC No.64270 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Also of numerological interest
Captain Paul Rice - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 12:32:21 EST ID:FDOngSDT No.64314 Ignore Report Quick Reply
there are a load of numbers in every single episode, try doing the same amount of research on any other number

Clones? Clones?! by Lt. JG Ayala - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 20:37:36 EST ID:Ld8N1Crg No.64148 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Corporal R Ryan - Mon, 26 Mar 2018 07:06:22 EST ID:znfJJ+je No.64219 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>even though his prosthesis sometimes gives him headaches

>when you mention having a prop screwed in to the side of your head is causing you physical pain, so they write it in to your character's plotline
Worf - Mon, 26 Mar 2018 10:39:40 EST ID:knEAr630 No.64220 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>TFW the Captain keeps rubbing his balls on your VISOR

Kazago - Mon, 26 Mar 2018 17:34:37 EST ID:KPAfNItn No.64221 Ignore Report Quick Reply
They were also held on by a monofilament line anchored behind his ears, so that was probably also irritating.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Sun, 01 Apr 2018 02:24:07 EST ID:Z288cSpk No.64242 Report Quick Reply
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Clone Club?
Lon Suder - Mon, 02 Apr 2018 07:34:00 EST ID:aK3MREZj No.64244 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I know, right?

$$$$$$ by Kiri-kin-tha - Mon, 12 Feb 2018 01:54:06 EST ID:MEjDLzYq No.63786 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So what are you going to do with the money you've free'd up after canceling your CBS Access?
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Bernardo Calvera - Wed, 21 Mar 2018 20:30:36 EST ID:5VzmgF16 No.64201 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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And a cold glass of prune juice!
General Martok - Mon, 26 Mar 2018 20:04:13 EST ID:uru3oj0T No.64223 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>prune juice
Senator Vreenak - Tue, 27 Mar 2018 10:54:48 EST ID:mbyjGwXO No.64225 Ignore Report Quick Reply

is that lieutenant klagg? the bitch-boy who got his shit kicked in by Riker? keep laughing bitch boy, you wouldn't know a warriors drink if you tripped into a lake of it
General Martok - Tue, 27 Mar 2018 16:55:22 EST ID:uru3oj0T No.64226 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Lieutenant Klagg? Are your eyes as feeble as your tongue, baktag? I am GENERAL MARTOK, head of the House of Martok, and I could drink you under the table any day, k'pekt.
Guinan - Tue, 27 Mar 2018 20:54:28 EST ID:b048m/L8 No.64227 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>The dining hall grows slowly quiet

Star Trek: Enterprise Thread by Leskit - Fri, 02 Mar 2018 21:08:38 EST ID:ZR416Pa+ No.64076 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I've been binging the fucking shit out of Strak Trak Enterprise and it's actually really fucking good. It's almost DS9 levels of brutal in terms of the moral choices and Jonathan Archer having to deal with the fallout of his fuckery is a great "pre-federation" back story.
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Jaro Essa - Mon, 19 Mar 2018 20:11:16 EST ID:ZR416Pa+ No.64187 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>People who grew up watching TNG, DS9, ENT, and VOY are much younger and in the most sought after demographic

yes that might be true- but that isn't the question- that group of people is not 500 million people. it, simply stated, isn't enough to justify the production of the kind of star trek that we are used to "seeing" that's why we have discovery- it's, by design, not appealing to niche trekkies like us.

insofar as whether or not TNG is "more recognizable" or what have you as a result of the internet culture surrounding those shows doesn't automatically mean that x millions amount of people are therefore on-board with that kind of Star Trek.

There is a qualitative difference, say, between Discovery and TNG/VOY/DS9. And it has nothing to do with the aesthetics. As far as complaints go Aesthetics, for me, is near the bottom of the list.
Captain Edward Jellico - Mon, 19 Mar 2018 20:38:59 EST ID:2G6oewNa No.64188 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Are you actually retarded or are you just pretending?
Tal Celes - Mon, 19 Mar 2018 21:01:02 EST ID:ZayB4rfX No.64189 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>People who grew up with TOS are in their 60s at best.
Nah. That shit rocked syndication into the 80's basically until TNG started. To quote one of Eddie Murphy's stand up specials:
>The only good thing on cable is Star Trek
That was like... '80, '82.
You gotta take into account that everything on cable was still pretty much network trash and sports until HBO started doing original movies and series'. Hell, Showtime had just built out its satellite dish network and god help you if you couldn't even get cable. Might as well just lock yourself in a room and teach yourself 8502 assembly language. That's the best entertainment you're gonna get out of your TV before the evening.
Star Trek vs Bonanza is a no-brainer, and while your dad might debate me on this, Star Trek also kicks the shit out of M*A*S*H reruns.
Shows like Cheers, Knight Rider, Magnum P.I., Remington Steele, the shows I grew up with in 90's syndication were just starting. Then you've got about a dozen police prodecurals (which hasn't changed, except more of them were about shooting everybody).
Also btw 3 of my 5 examples are private detective shows, because the cops shooting everyone genre fucking sucks.

There was some decent stuff on, but it was on prime time and that doesn't fill out the schedule. Apart from MASH, they were generally not in syndication.

So Star Trek's greatest competition in the cable space was probably soft porn. And while TOS is still on, it's another one of those shows mostly relegated to TVLand while TNG and DS9 have taken its place with more than 4 times the content and I'm not even including Voyager.
And even that stopped mattering around 2010 because nobody watches TV on cable anymore, if they even want to watch TV shows at all. The ads are oppressive and they've become so repetitive you just want to shoot yourself in the face.
Jaro Essa - Mon, 19 Mar 2018 22:28:07 EST ID:ZR416Pa+ No.64190 Ignore Report Quick Reply
are you contributing or just shitposting?
Dr. Mora Pol - Sat, 24 Mar 2018 17:00:58 EST ID:l5TvN503 No.64208 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Tng and voy still air on bbc america regularly and they even played tos for like a week around the50th anniversary.

Idk why they don't seem to want to play ds9. I guess because it's not so episodic.

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