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Best Trek by Grand Nagus Zek - Sun, 16 Apr 2017 02:30:06 EST ID:2xbiEPcR No.58851 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Is it just me or is DS9 the best Trek?
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Michael Sullivan - Mon, 17 Apr 2017 17:26:18 EST ID:vhe/UV6p No.58888 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I just watched the Eddington chase episode today, and you're right, Sisko adapts, and even decides to "become the villain" to Eddington's romantic hero ideal of himself, so to get Eddington to commit an act of heroic self-sacrifice for his people he does something unspeakably villainous...though no more so than what the Maquis planned to do to the Cardassian colonists.

And you're right about Sisko, he does adapt, he has to as Captain of a station, as he has to deal with so many conflicting elements at once, both within himself and around him, whereas Picard is speeding across the galaxy finding something new each time. He's never really forced to betray what he believes in like Sisko.

But yes, Sisko is a badass. He has to deal with deceit and at times deal in it and never breaks, though he comes close several times. He's willing to take risks, like taking a half-functional Defiant into battle.

As for Tom, I read on memory-alpha that there is a computer log about him that says he died in a fight in the labour camp, so I guess that's the end of him. Defiant is a great episode though.

As for the first couple of seasons, I agree completely, although I I have to say, TNG season 1 is great in my books, even crap like Angel One. I have a soft spot for it, sure some episodes are rubbish, but some are great. Encounter At Farpoint is one of my favourites in the whole series and 110010-etc, and Conspiracy are great. The first two seasons of DS9 have plenty of great episodes, and the cast makes it, aside from Sisko who I feel, only really comes into his own in season 3, but that works for the show too, as Sisko wasn't comfortable in his post at first. The episodes about Li Nalas and the circle are great, and I too enjoyed Melora. Maybe those first two seasons seem a little colder, because many of the characters still did not like each other. By season 4 pretty much everyone is on friendly terms, but I do enjoy the dislike certain characters have in the first two seasons, particularly O'Brien for Bashir in Tosk, The Storyteller and Rivals but of course they were fast friends by season 4. But that's what I enjoy about the show, the way …
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Montgomery Scott - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 14:42:13 EST ID:5uU+DoWU No.59054 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Eddington was the best DS9 villain imo, too bad we didn't see more of him.
He should have been the one being stranded with Sisko on the barren planet after the dominion attack, not Dukat.

Which also brings me to the way the "Late Dukat" was portrayed. The whole pah-wraith cult and upto and including the finale felt somewhat out of place for the purposes of a Star Trek villain.
Yeah they might have had to add another season to wrap up loose ends then, but would that have been so bad?
Kessick - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 15:27:24 EST ID:xLMzDoiw No.59056 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I agree in a way, but I think the whole series works as it is anyway. I would love a season 8 reunion though.

In season 6 Dukat basically becomes pure evil with no chance at redemption, which sort of makes him a less interesting character. In the early seasons we got to see multiple sides to him, and it's great, he was undoubtedly a killer but you wondered about his motivations, and we learned a lot about Cardassian society and how it works through him.

As for Eddington, I was satisfied with his send-off.
David Marcus - Sun, 30 Apr 2017 08:30:51 EST ID:hCWTNph6 No.59113 Ignore Report Quick Reply
s1/s2 dax getting into her role before quirky jadzia was interesting.

so was watching sr officer sisko berating jr officer bashir. it was great.
Chakotay - Sun, 30 Apr 2017 22:11:33 EST ID:2KLVC+5h No.59117 Ignore Report Quick Reply
yamok sauce was pretty good ds9 is alright

We /Rom/ulan Now by Chulak - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 13:03:07 EST ID:Wqg7ST5a No.58975 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I had something I was curious about, and maybe this can move the discussion of Romulan culture to here instead of shitting up the DSC thread.

Is it ever explained why Romulans have names like Vreenak, Kretak, etc. when they're supposed to have a huge boner for the Roman Earth civilization? Shouldn't they be named Vespasian and Domitian and Servilla and all that? I know they and Vulcans were once one race, but those names aren't exactly Vulcan either, right?

And while we're on the subject of Vulcans vs. Romulans, it's shown time and again that Vulcans are rather hot-blooded from suppressing everything all the time, and when it's triggered they can get frenzied and w/e. Why are the Romulans constantly portrayed as so cold and calculating then? Wouldn't they, having rejected the path of logic, be more impassioned? - not to the level of Pon Farr or anything because they don't have the suppression factor - but shouldn't they be writing love poems, partying, and screwing all the time instead of scheming against the Feddies?
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Composer Delvok - Fri, 28 Apr 2017 11:05:19 EST ID:KN9lUNxQ No.59095 Ignore Report Quick Reply
as far as I can tell it's the shots that have effects work that ended up cropped to widescreen from 4:3

It's probably like how the Metal Heroes HD transfers are like, film, then when there's a ton of effects they got mixed down to video tape and look shit. Only the shots that are just what's in-camera are widescreen, then they cropped the effects.
Liquidator Brunt - Fri, 28 Apr 2017 16:46:46 EST ID:NsYbbNZU No.59096 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Those are the most noticeable because the effects were only ever composited on 4:3. However, it is definitely the case that even non-effects shots were also cropped. Pay attention to close up shots, in particular of Centauri. The cinematographer wasn't drunk and just cutting off those beautiful crowns willy-nilly, the shots were actually correct before cropping. It's not like the process which other shows adopted (like Metal Heroes HD) simply because of the process I described earlier with WB; they didn't care and did it the cheap way simply because no one paid as much attention to either video quality or the series back when they made the DVD releases.
Anyway, if you're interested, here is more than any human should ever know about the Babylon 5 DVD transfers: https://www.modeemi.fi/~leopold/Babylon5/DVD/DVDTransfer.html
Leck - Sun, 30 Apr 2017 14:38:33 EST ID:03Z6w657 No.59114 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dr. Yuris - Sun, 30 Apr 2017 17:43:37 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.59115 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I really hate that because of proximity to woo i get the reference.
You guys are shit.
Weyoun 7 - Sun, 30 Apr 2017 18:31:08 EST ID:KikjBBjU No.59116 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Go get mindmelded Yuris.

Bump When Watching IV by Cmdr. Williams - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 15:05:51 EST ID:3bunwxei No.58359 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Old one isn't bumping anymore.

>VOY Future's End

I'll admit I love the episodes where the crew somehow ends up in current year and this one is no exception. The entire two parter is really cheesy and it knows it. It's great.
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DaiMon Tarr - Sat, 29 Apr 2017 04:44:41 EST ID:4aT5dP6u No.59099 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I actually liked Final Frontier. I liked the "row-row-your-boat" scene," Spock's jetboots, and the scene where he gets to the source of their pain, Shatner "I need my pain" speech.

If they had no writers that makes sense. It's not bad watching clips from the show so far, but it's just not...good.
Captain Braxton - Sat, 29 Apr 2017 09:01:04 EST ID:PKjpxs1L No.59100 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Legate Porania - Sat, 29 Apr 2017 14:34:30 EST ID:NsYbbNZU No.59104 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I really like FF too, but it is just objectively quite awful in a lot of aspects (almost all of which are exclusively Shatner's fault. The decks going from 100-1? The 'rock monsters' or lack thereof? And I mean the whole concept of going on a search for god is so questionable. As I remember one of the production staff complaining after the fact 'what did we think we were going to find?')

I generally don't see eye to eye with other Trekkies on what's good and bad though, since I think TMP is the best movie and like VOY and ENT, so I also keep info about what 'the herd' thinks about each production in my head. And I was just mentioning that it did in fact almost kill the franchise.

BWW, Time's Arrow; the best time the Enterprise crew goes to past-San Francisco (out of the multitude of options)
Ambassador Thoris - Sat, 29 Apr 2017 16:36:34 EST ID:TWF7blF5 No.59108 Ignore Report Quick Reply

The Motion Picture could well be the best movie. It has more ideas, Wrath of Khan, as much as I love it, is more of a film for fans, but The Motion Picture is a better science fiction film. The Voyage Home is my favourite of the films, though I also like First Contact a lot.

Time's Arrow is great, if I recall it features Marc Alaimo (Dukat) as a poker player. It's a great period episode, and I love that the story is like something that might be found in science fiction of the time.
DaiMon Bractor - Sat, 29 Apr 2017 23:47:47 EST ID:PKjpxs1L No.59112 Ignore Report Quick Reply
TMP and ENT are good, you're right. I like Voyager when in the right mood, or if I watch DS9 [or any other show of similar tone] first and want something vastly different more than usual.

Bryan Fuller Leaves "Star Trek: Discovery" as Showrunner by M'Pella - Wed, 26 Oct 2016 23:02:42 EST ID:lBRkOczw No.56838 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>Sources said there had been some strain between “Star Trek” producer CBS Television Studios and Fuller over the progress of production on the show

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Albert Macklin - Sat, 29 Apr 2017 16:04:57 EST ID:U9OytMf9 No.59106 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>they have barely even shot any film, or else are now abandoning a large part of what they already shot.


>V A P O R W A R E

I look forward to seeing the "star trek that could have been" videos.
Admiral Maxwell Forrest - Sat, 29 Apr 2017 16:09:50 EST ID:KikjBBjU No.59107 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I doubt they have any film. Remember, they shitcanned their entire effects crew. That likely means anything that was done before that was junked.
Porthos - Sat, 29 Apr 2017 16:55:29 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.59109 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah it's becoming quite clear that they are WAY behind schedule. Hence all the attempts at reassuring fans that everything is alright with the production. For all we know they have just started filming. When were they originally planning on releasing the series?
Aren't we past when the show was originally supposed to premiere?
Admiral Maxwell Forrest - Sat, 29 Apr 2017 18:19:48 EST ID:KikjBBjU No.59110 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It was meant to drop in January. It got pushed to Summer, then Fall, and now its TBD.
Colonel Lovok - Sat, 29 Apr 2017 22:02:21 EST ID:mg20blE5 No.59111 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'd say 32.7%

You don't need to be genetically modified to know it's not good though.

So what can I do for ya, Pally? by Kira Nerys - Fri, 07 Apr 2017 20:41:49 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.58782 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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You helped Quark smuggle some random drug for some random degenerate planet past the Feddies. He has rewarded you with 30 strips of Latinum, and a free 4 hour session in one of his famed holosuites.

How do you choose to spend it the time in the holosuite, assuming he has any program you could ever want?
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Deanna Troi - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:11:17 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.59034 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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it could have some kind of mechanism like serotonin, considering how prevalent it is and how it effects so many systems of the body
Lon Suder - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:17:58 EST ID:ZpNNEjFo No.59035 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Do a lot of heroin and spend the 4 hours with an image of my dead wife
Kimara Cretak - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:35:17 EST ID:NP3snBPI No.59037 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why have an intestine? They just need a liver like organism to do the work. No fibre or junk needs separating, ketracel is everything they need and is likely designed as smart as they are. They don't take large volumes, in fact it's a tiny quantity that they ingest so even if it's energy dense it won't need lots of space to ferment like our food as the actual size of a vial of white is tiny.

As they don't eat I'd agree it's a complex protein perhaps also a high density store of energy several times more efficient than natural forms like fat but again their unique metabolism lets them use it. I believe not all the components can be replicated hence all that stuff about the planet the dominion wanted, so the compound it's refined from is already insanely complex and energitic/unstable.

Of course Jem Hadar probably instead have extra muscle and more space for bigger and better heart, lungs and so on but half the shit we have in our torso just won't be there.
David Marcus - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 16:32:07 EST ID:NsYbbNZU No.59043 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Lt. Talas - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 23:39:36 EST ID:R5+vNoeJ No.59065 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Star Trek jokes thread by r-e-b-a-r-t - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 19:23:57 EST ID:L51DfOC9 No.58458 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Post your best Star Trek jokes?

What would you call your shoes if they grew beards since last you wore them?

Riker's shoes.
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B'Etor - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 20:06:26 EST ID:z0xs5r47 No.58764 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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B'Etor - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 20:08:36 EST ID:z0xs5r47 No.58765 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Jaresh-Inyo - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 20:16:21 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.58767 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Is this a reference to Green Room?
Eliminator Leck - Fri, 07 Apr 2017 04:56:53 EST ID:GXFLYcN6 No.58771 Ignore Report Quick Reply

meh, some of them are pretty funny i guess.
Broca - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:52:00 EST ID:MZhfxrBx No.59044 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hyperspace basically is Subspace though.

Your All-Franchise All Star Crew by Shinsookie - Fri, 10 Feb 2017 22:35:44 EST ID:aFhEZLpl No.57961 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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We've all had this discussion before, it's part of being a Trek fan, but I'm curious what my fellow viewers and assorted Taimafolk have to say right now.

>CO) Captain Jean-Luc Picard
  • Why? He's the epitome of the wise leader. Diplomat at his best, warrior when required. His family line meant everything to him but he willingly sacrificed his chances for romance and children in order to stay in the captain's chair. I admired Janeway's mama bear drive to drag her crew home on her back, I loved Sisko's more forceful way of leading, but it still goes to Picard.

>XO) Commander William Riker
  • This was a hard one, because Riker and Kira were both very interesting characters who capably saved the day when their COs were otherwise engaged. But the simple fact that Riker was Picard's understudy makes him the winner.

>Chief Engineer) Commander Charles "Trip" Tucker III
  • I like O'Brien a lot, Geordie had his moment, but Trip was in a lot of ways the heart and soul of Enterprise. His character was so well done Television Without Pity named their award for "best character in an otherwise bad show" the Trip Tucker Award.

>Chief Medical Officer) Doctor Phlox
  • This was a tough one, as I LOVED the EMH and I enjoyed Bashir, but Phlox's role as the outsider on humanity's first warp 5 vessel was well done. He had his very silly moments, yes, but those weren't all we saw of him. He knew when it was go time and he could be a consummate professional. Compare Billingsley's acting as Phlox against Philips' acting as Neelix. Both cheerful outsider characters, but Phillips never knew when to show Neelix's competent and darker side, which to him simply becoming a joke. I also enjoyed how, when Archer was struggling with an ethical dilemma, he often sought advice from Phlox.

>Chief Science Officer) Jadzia Dax
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Senator Tal'aura - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 19:37:19 EST ID:KikjBBjU No.58049 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That fucking RNG.
Guinan - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 21:02:07 EST ID:4X53I0XV No.58108 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm not gonna lie, I've been trying to figure out what the fuck you meant by this for days. Please explain. What does this have to do with Random Number Generators? What the fuck man.
Guinan - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 21:05:14 EST ID:4X53I0XV No.58109 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh my god I'm so fucking stupid.. I see now. I see. Forgive me.
Sarina Douglas - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 22:02:23 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.58110 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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You're forgiven Guinan
Senator Pardek - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:18:45 EST ID:aYEMXxXA No.59036 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Ship Counselor: Garak

Rascals Episode 2: Wesley's Revenge by Guinan - Sun, 14 Aug 2016 02:39:11 EST ID:sehZ/Igr No.55667 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Guys, it finally happened. 4 years, 2 months, 15 days, 18 hours, 32 minutes and 19 seconds after it was first created, the rascals thread has sunk into the dark abyss where only netjester can roam.

RIP in peace creepy thread.
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Weyoun 8 - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 17:07:09 EST ID:kIUOtR3z No.58984 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah loli Keiko is still Keiko. It's still a hell​.
Admiral Cartwright - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 18:19:29 EST ID:52qIw6x9 No.58985 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I think we all know what REALLY happened *wink*
Greskrendtregk - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 18:19:46 EST ID:dviAa10l No.58986 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Lt. Ro Laren - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 09:35:10 EST ID:52qIw6x9 No.59027 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I had to check who the actress was that played young Keiko, because I thought it might have been the same girl who played the elf Judy in The Santa Clause, and nope. Although https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caroline_Junko_King did go on to be a show runner over at Doramon (some anime kids show).

Unfortunately looks like Judy disappeared, and my guess is she got hella molested and washed out of hollywood. Uncouth? It's the truth and you know it. http://m.imdb.com/name/nm0848402/
Rom - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 10:58:08 EST ID:KN9lUNxQ No.59028 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I assume they mean the US dub of Doraemon? Seems weird they'd have some rando in a real position on a franchise of that size.

"Trek can't be post-apocalyptic or it betrays Roddenberry" by Mestral - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 20:00:20 EST ID:PKjpxs1L No.59010 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Except the entire series including the movies and STD are set after World War Three, which wipes out billions of people and sends earth back to pre-industrial levels of development.
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Deanna Troi - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 21:47:39 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.59016 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Post apocalyptic implies that in the time period the piece takes place in that they're still dealing with the effects of the apocalypse, and that society is still set back.
Have you ever watched a post apocalypse movie where it's 300 years after the apocalypse and everything is great and they're actually better off because of the apocalypse?
Just because there was an apocalyptic event in the history doesn't mean it's post apocalypse.
If that was so, then we're living in a post apocalyptic setting right now. A comet wiped out the dinosaurs but now it's years later and everything is good, and human wouldn't have become the dominant species without it!
nb for semantics thread.
Mestral - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 23:11:30 EST ID:PKjpxs1L No.59017 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't think much Trek happens in the context of a Galactic Community, and I mean that in the sense of "most of the galaxy is known" like in Babylon 5.
I think STD could really do something with that,.
I would think, though, that Enterprise is just that kind of thing though-- There have been several major long-term wars, and the quadrant is rebuilding.
Andor/Vulcan war, Human/Human war, et c.
I think post-Dominion War Alpha Quad counts. And really, one really great show idea is a post-apocalyptic Earth-Romulan war series. We claw out of WW3 and rebuild, begin to make a new community with Vulcan, Andoria, Rigel, Tellar, only to be blown to fuck by an invisible empire of super dicks.

The Federation, from Enterprise's End really, up to TOS, would be one hell of a tense crawl through twisted metal and broken dreams.
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Post-apocalyptic is a genre in which the action takes place during or after the catastrophe, while civilization is still in shambles. Civilization is not in shambles in Trek, so it's not post-apocalyptic, even if an apocalyptic event is a part of its backstory. Post-apocalyptic tales are about the strife of dealing with catastrophe. Trek is utopian; it's basic premise is that strife has already been dealt with. In a way, Trek is kind of anti-post-apocalyptic.

Most of space isn't known in B5, they've actually explored a much smaller amount than the Federation has. In fact, the younger races are mostly contained within the Orion arm. Pic related; the green outline is the extent of the furthest expansion of the Shadows during the war. Since from their perspective the Shadow war was all encompassing, we can assume they don't really know about anything beyond this region.
Mestral - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 00:35:40 EST ID:PKjpxs1L No.59020 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ah, by "Rim" they meant "Border of Known Space" not the actual Galactic Rim.
Fucking misleading is what that is, JMS.
David Marcus - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 03:33:16 EST ID:NsYbbNZU No.59025 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Yeah that confused me too, when I watched it as a kid I was imagining it was like the whole galaxy. I still think when the First Ones talk about going beyond the Rim, they do mean the space outside of the galaxy though.

Stardate 420 by Lt. Maxwell Burke - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 14:55:36 EST ID:NsYbbNZU No.58940 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>>Captain's Log
>>Stardate 420.ree
>>I've ordered science officer Spock to chart a course through the atmosphere of Dankicus IV, the only planet in this quadrant that is completely hotboxed.
>>Chief Medical Officer McCoy is now dispensing vaporized medication through the environmental systems, 420 parts per million. His words to me, 'It's lit, Jim.'
>>Engineer Scott is reportedly dabbing hot nails right off the warp core. Engineering staff operating at peak efficiency. His report coming in now, 'It's green!'
>>I'd like to officially note citations for the entire bridge staff. They have taken fat rip after fat rip to the dome and only Chekov is coughing like a little bitch.
>>Helm, set a new course. It's time for the captain to hit this shit. Heading; stoned. Warp factor, high. Engage!

Happy 4/20 /1701/! May your replicators always be full of nugs and your warp cores never breach.
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Biddle Coleridge - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 18:56:57 EST ID:NNu0rHAt No.58944 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Lt. Cmdr. Dexter Remmick - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 20:56:27 EST ID:jo7nUZ1k No.58945 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Miles have you seen my Purple Klingon Skunk plant?
Curzon Dax - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 22:05:59 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.58946 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That's the kinda face that makes an accidental spousal airlock accident seem so appealing
Simon Tarses - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 06:27:49 EST ID:dviAa10l No.58947 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Orator Plegg - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 21:22:24 EST ID:zMehEFjD No.58992 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What is this? the 21st Century? Well no, any other man would just use a teleporter and claim it was an accident but Miles happens to be one of the best transporter techs in the federation so he's fucked himself again.

Chief miles O'brien appreciation thread by Silik - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 00:26:20 EST ID:L3E9v1HE No.58312 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Okay. So I know you took a look at the title and your wondering why. Let me explain before you turn around and arm the photon's. See in a world as big as outlandish as star trek is. It needs normal characters. People who seem much more well, basic.

Think about it. Star trek is filled with people who have can accept making universe changing decisions. Obrien is so diffrent, he does things out of a sense of duty more than anything. He cares about his family. He isn't concered with the layers behind everything.

And that's what makes him such a great foil. Against the back drop of star trek where drastic universe changing things happen on an episode by episode basis its nice to see someone just have simple family problems. And while this doesn't make him the most interesting character, it makes him an important element.

Its easy to forget that even in a world where humanity has moved on, improved so much, that people are still very much people. That people can live relatively normal lives (never mind the random perils of space thats just part of working for startfleet). Sure, there's a little bit of this with a lot of trek characters, but miles is different.

What people forget is that so many of the other charters in trek that we get to see in basic capacities are less than basic people. Captains and their ilk have this romanticism to them, that's not obrien at all. Piccard will tell her we'll always have paris, and a guy like miles will tell her shes a swell girl.

It's important to note that the humanization of treks world becomes a little more plausible through someone like miles. That even if he's not that exciting that he helps step the stage for believability. Its a big universe but, hey someones gotta be at home arguing with their wife.
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Lwaxana Troi - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 03:20:50 EST ID:z0xs5r47 No.58722 Ignore Report Quick Reply
but transhumanism aside, i agree, O'brien is a great dramatic element that adds a lot of charm to the show. He keeps everybodies feet on the ground. I wonder if hes like that as an actor, too, like a no-nonsense stick to the script method actor..

He does his job and collects his paycheck, just like everybody else.
Lwaxana Troi - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 03:22:19 EST ID:z0xs5r47 No.58723 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hardly anyone from Star Trek ever goes on to have good careers. Its like a career death sentence, once you end up on star trek, you're on Star Trek forever, thats the only work you are getting.
Persis - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 15:17:30 EST ID:k4sWA7J/ No.58791 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think this is sort of true. However the advent of video games means that voice actors are needed and having a nerdy resume and the ability to ham it up are strengths in that field. Same with cartoon stuff. A lot of the actors have a LOT of work there. I think for most of them Star Trek is the best they'll have once they do it. It's like moving to UAE. You can get a lucrative job but it's nearly impossible to move up as a foreigner. You go there when your career has otherwise gone as far as it will usually.

While Patrick Stewart is the obvious exception, Kate Mulgrew was critically acclaimed in orange is the new black and has kept busy. I didn't realise she's also Flemeth. Colm Meaney does alright, but yeah does a lot of graft. He co starred in the Alan Partridge movie which I almost forgot. Poor Pat. Levar Burton has a shitload of awards but reading rainbow predates TNG so there's definitely an element of him going no further there. Most of the rest have done a lot of voice acting but they don't do much more on TV or film.

What I'm saying is it doesn't kill your career as much as limit it.

Though hopefully someone else can think of some "oh shit really?" exceptions now.
Deanna Troi - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 15:52:23 EST ID:NsYbbNZU No.58792 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Though it doesn't count as an actual 'gig' Brent Spiner's web series 'Fresh Hell' is pretty hilarious in that Brent plays himself and accurately portrays how much of an unrepentant asshole he is. In one episode he is bumming money from LeVar all the while making fun of how he used to rub his balls on the visor. It's great stuff
Lt. Cmdr. Dexter Remmick - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 17:02:40 EST ID:jo7nUZ1k No.58958 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Siddig made it on Game of Thrones for a season, and is playing Ra's al Ghoul on Fox's Gotham next season. Good job on being a handsome vaguely foreign guy in hollywood whose uncle is Malcolm McDowell. Real horrorshow.

Garak's Novel by Subcommander N'Vek - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 04:05:26 EST ID:KjVbhEBa No.58724 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Garak is the best character in all of Star Trek. We know this.

Is Andrew J. Robinson's book "A Stitch In Time" worth the read?

Looking it up just now on amazon it looks like its book number 27 in a DS9 series .... would I have to read these other books to understand the story at the time in the book?
Ulis - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 05:11:07 EST ID:NQYwnkki No.58726 Ignore Report Quick Reply
damn, now I'm going to have to go buy a shitload of these books I never knew about.
they all look great.
Dr. Mizan - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 11:34:12 EST ID:n8McU5oH No.58730 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Is Andrew J. Robinson's book "A Stitch In Time" worth the read?
don't worry about the 27 other books yet
A Stitch in Time is basically the actor's notes about the character's backstory tweaked as a novel.
it has massive spoilers for DS9 obviously, and gives the real answers about Garak (at least as far as his actor saw it), so tread carefully
Prinadora - Wed, 12 Apr 2017 19:25:28 EST ID:Lqmnk0Ik No.58816 Ignore Report Quick Reply
First, and currently only, trek novel I've ever read.

It's absolutely amazing. Robinson is quite good at writing and it's a shock this was his first book. He made up tons of backstory for Garak and it just feels right when you read it.

Couldn't recommend it enough.
Emperor Kahless - Wed, 12 Apr 2017 20:36:07 EST ID:NsYbbNZU No.58817 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>> it's a shock this was his first book
Lots of Trek actors have 'written' books you would be amazed were by them. While undoubtedly they contribute ideas and maybe even rough drafts, they almost always have ghost writers bring it up to professional quality.
Cmdr. Erika Benteen - Thu, 13 Apr 2017 03:48:38 EST ID:iows5Uco No.58820 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah but I think he's one of the only ones not to use a ghost writer.

Then again the book is really a rewrite of his journals written to give backstory to the character. If he hadn't been keeping them and giving a thoughtful interpretation to Garak's role in the scripts from the character's point of view.

And we all know that Garak is the best character on the show, and that effort is why.

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