>>37340

And today we learned that someone really believes that DS9 really verifies that Section 31 was really just 1 guy.

>>36973

really?

because I'm pretty sure it was: giant bag guy ship, traveling the galaxy in seconds, lots a 'splosions, big bad super power bad guy, anakin spockwalker.. etc.

>>37342

Mkay dude, whatever makes you happy.

In reality this movie was very much in line with the TOS feel. Would anyone else like to remember that the Enterprise just decided to mozy on out of the galaxy in one episode? Or how about Kirk telling someone that they're well known throughout the Galaxy? Or the ship flying faster than warp 10 while the later series turn warp 10 into some magical bullshit that makes you exist everywhere at once?

>>37343

It doesn't make me happy.

>>37330
Again, they're presented as the bad guys in every one of their appearances. Yes, they're out of tune with the idealistic image of humanity, but that's the point. They exist so that the idealists can overcome them.

>>35572

There's the rub. He wants a lot of money, and he also wants to be the center of attention. JJ is having none of Shat's shit.

Guys I'm disappointed. OP has asked for plot suggestions and no one has posted Dianna rape fanfics.

>>35250
According to memory alpha there was a story pitched for Enterprise that had Daniels and Chef traveling to the 23rd century and it would be revealed that Chef was James Kirk's ancestor. The plan was apparently to have Shatner play Chef and he would have to impersonate Kirk whom had gone missing. Maybe they could put some old age makeup on Shat and have a scene with Kirk visting Granpa Chef or something.

http://en.memory-alpha.org/wiki/Chef_(Enterprise_NX-01)

DICKS EVERYWHERE

>>37333

You made my week, T'les. Thanks.

>>37186
Thank god, that sounds fucking awful

>>37186
>>37191

Worse than the end of ENT, if that's possible

>>37186
Depends on how exactly they handled it. Between "Far Beyond the Stars" and "Shadows and Symbols", the Benny Russell visions served as a metaphor of Sisko's real life journey. Showing that scene, if done properly, would serve to continue that metaphor by showing that Sisko's story had been completed and that he was now sharing it in a higher form, representing his joining with the Prophets. It wouldn't need to just be "it was only a dream!"

I think we can agree that the second vision of Benny was merely the Pagh-wraiths using Sisko's memories of his previous experience with the prophets and being enormous trolls. It wasn't part of a deeper storyline.

I like to imagine that the spirits of the Prophets and the Pah-Wraiths are simply the non-corporeal forces that bind a wormhole made sentient, and not actually aliens that work on realms of good or evil proper. Simply, the forces that preserve, and the forces that end.

Sure, our encounters with the Pah-Wraiths have always been ones that strike them as evil, but how do they interact? They blind people, or close off their sight. They slowly shut down a person's body, and most importantly, their goals to get into the Celestial Temple involve shutting down the Wormhole for good.

The Prophets see things as able to continue, to be beyond a fixed moment of existence that still binds other wormholes to their own 'mortality'. They give life, clear minds of elements they deem to be unhealthy, send gifts to the Bajorans to expand their knowledge. They never kill in the way the Pah-Wraiths do, evaporating the Jem'Hadar fleet, perhaps scattering their particles into the universe... or maybe they never killed them at all and just cast them off into the stars.

The Pah-Wraiths are the forces of the end of a wormhole made conscious, while the Prophets are the forces of preservation of a wormhole made conscious.

>>37319
If I enjoy both cake mix and cake made from scratch, there's something wrong with me?

>>37319

What movie did you see? They did transwarp some redshirt goons to Khan's location but he superowned them with his faggoty clown powers every time.

Later they try to transwarp a torpedo directly beside him and set it off, so Kirk calls him up before they transport and says "HAHAHA DODGE DIS" but Khan haxored their targeting system remotely with his super l337 rootkit he uploaded through the comm link with his tricorder to the main computer. Kirk ends up totally fucked when it materializes underneath where he's standing on the bridge straight up his ass and out his mouth.

>>37327

Are you schizophrenic?

I must admit that Kirk being chased by that werd looking cgi blob only to just escape in some middle of the nowhere cave where he met by old spock that couldn't know exactly what was happening is just to improbable for any adult mind. >>37122 I think we all going to have to act like kids when going to watch these movies.
Another obvious plot fail from the first film is Nero goes back in time waits & waits around for Spock, I mean don't bother telling anyone Romulus is going to blow up, don't try and change the past like killing the earlier version of Spock or anything, Nero's worse with the prime directive than Kathryn Janeway.

Your story is bad and you should feel bad.

Please, more.

>>37315

>slash fiction

More like splash fiction.

>>37294
lal

>>37332

data would you send lal over to my quarters later, alone.

>>37177

Yep TWO Janeways. To be Oh and don't forget Neelix the ambassador. We'll send him to Vulcan whenever they piss us off. I must admit I'd watch a season of Neelix annoying the shit out of Vulcan high command and I find Janeway less annoying now.

>>37183
That would be pretty great. I can see Neelix deciding to live on Vulcan to spread good cheer to the dour people there and being universally despised but also being given every luxury and hospitality possible in a series of houses out of some Vulcan tradition about treating guests well.

>>37070
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vjrIj5fEX0
I could watch this all day

>>37061
So he's the Paris Hilton of nerds?

My vote for DS9

>>35995
Exciting? Yes.
Dumb? Also yes.

>>37185
I wonder if Wesley was a hot/cute girl but otherwise exactly the same, if people would still hate her as much.

>>37304
Indeed, why do you need some whore just to make it a bit more convincing when you can program the holodeck to fuck a simulation of some existing bitch you're lusting for instead.

This is a future where most people seem to have thrown off the weird psychological problems caused by monotheism. Can't we justice let women be sexually active and want to fuck everyone they see like men do? Science had already debunked the nonsense monotheist idea that women are genetically inclined to monogamy.

>>37188

>Nothing more than interactive porn.

Excuse me? Sexual activity itself is "nothing more than interactive porn."

>>37050
welll, you're sorta right, it's kinda a subtext thing. Sad really, apparently some viewers and execs couldn't handle such fabulousness.
also: omnisexual=/=homosexual. If he were gay he'd go for cardie dudes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elim_Garak : Portrayal
Robinson's initial performance as Garak received scrutiny as his portrayal was interpreted as Garak being homosexual or bisexual. Robinson denied that his portrayal was intended to portray Garak as homosexual, and, rather, implied that he was omnisexual.[3] As a result of the controversy, Robinson removed the particular characteristic from Garak.
"I had planned Garak not as homosexual or heterosexual but omnisexual, and the first episode I had with Bashir played that way gave people fits. So I had to remove that characteristic from him."-Andrew J. Robinson[2]
As the series continued, Garak transforms from a simple mysterious character to one of complexity and secrecy. Robinson stated that the complexity of Garak's character did not come from his lies, but rather his refusal to elaborate on himself.
"The important thing about Garak is that he lives in the subtext. Again, with the iceberg analogy, the substance of Garak is what you don't hear. It's what he doesn't say."-Andrew J. Robinson[2]

>>37050
It might also be a cultural thing. Maybe he's more easily seen as "gay" in America than, say, in Europe? I never thought he was homosexual (or "omnisexual", whatever that is) but just an interesting character. His "flamboyant" demeanour might help put people off guard, letting him be a better spy.

>>37058

More like Arab societies, like when you see guy's walking around holding hands and kissing each other and that's considered totally not gay. Sasha Baron Cohen makes fun of this all the time

Not sure how I feel about Garak become "Federation-ized" in the later episodes. Definitely the parts where Garak's caught without a story or red-handed are fun, but I think during the later parts they got bored of him constantly lying about everything. I think I recently saw an episode or two where he starts creating mischief because he just loves that stuff, like the part where he's trying to convince Warf to endorse him as a Starfleet Cadet.

>>37182
"lying is a skill like any other and if you want to maintain a level of excellence you have to practice constantly"

>>37135

>TOS never tried to act like crazy people didn't exist.

I think they did.
In one of the eps with a space nuthouse they mention something like how they're "the only six totally batshit crazy people left".

>>37157

There's also Charlie X, Harry Mudd, the deluded doctor that wanted to turn everyone into machine copies of themselves, a man who changed a planet into Nazi Germany, a guy who built a super killer control system for starships that didn't have a good enough off switch, etc, etc.

>>37123

>I forgot, which pre-JJ Star Trek movie was about that?

The Motion Picture. It is a major theme of the film, including the 4-minute Enterprise flyby that so many whine about.

>>37175

>the 4-minute Enterprise flyby that so many whine about.

those are people who haven't seen it in a theater.
1701 gravure videos are the bomb on the big screen

>>36440

Wrath of Khan
Voyage Home
ST80 -TMP
Undiscovered Country
Insurrection
Search for Spock
Fist Contact
Into Darkness
Generations
ST09
Final Frontier
Nemesis

Will explain, but only if people want.

>>37104

When I saw The Best of Both Worlds at the theater earlier this year the lady who played the Borg specialist described Frakes, briefly, as being kind and encouraging even though she fucked up her first days work so badly that she was sure that she'd be fired by the next morning.

>>37098

>>37161
Damn

The one at the end is golden.
"Didn't anybody build ships in bottles when they were boys?"
"I never played with boys..."

I respect Dorn for his large body of work and general work ethic but really, if you don't want someone to slap you on the back why not simply ask them to not do it anymore?

>>37067

All those glorious Major Grin recut possibilities!

In the last episode Sisko could have fought the greatest fighter of the Jem'Hadar (played by Dolph Lundgren of course) and been killed when Picard wouldn't stop the fight. Then a guilt ridden Picard would have traveled to the gamma quadrent and had a bad ass training montage with him climbing mountains and dragging logs through the snow and shit. Finally he would defeat the Jem'Hadar that killed Sisko in one of the greatest bouts in the history of pugilism. After that Picard would give a stirring speech about how everyone can change and how we can all coexist. Then Picard would be applauded by everybody in the Dominion even the Founders.

>>37097

And then the Bajorans would stab him in the back.

>>37097

I would pay to see this.

>>37097
Such a great idea. How can we make it so?
Animation? CG or cell? Family Guy or TV Funhouse?

>>37145
"Captain Picard day?"
"Er um yes. It's the oral exam for the children."

TNG Recut 27
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTqcXtFzI1Q

>>37145
*PFF*

haha, i already have a cup. I tried it because of Picard, but it is really fucking tasty. I drink earl grey all the time now.