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Discovery has inspired me to fix this shit. by Ghee P'Trell - Sat, 20 May 2017 19:06:18 EST ID:GctQzjZV No.59316 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So what job in the television industry should I seek to have a significant amount of control in the creation of and production of a third generation of Star Trek?

Because I want to make it VERY badly, and I think I have some decent themes and concepts to explore for a future generation of Trek, but I want it to not get muddied up with meddling on some form for marketability or worse political tampering, to make some meandering mess. I get good stories are a compilation piece but I don't want anyone to realize I'm planning on explicitly rebuking the Roddenberry cultist mindset that's grown in Trek lore recently, especially in regards to the steps humanity took to reach the stars and get over its warlike past and I don't want someone pulling the plug on me for being too off-the-ranch if they figure out where I'm going with it.
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Vedek Bareil - Sun, 21 May 2017 00:20:50 EST ID:WVrpSik6 No.59321 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59320
You know that'd mean most of TNG, and all of DS9 woudn't exist, right? (And VOY and ENT I guess)
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Captain Goroth - Sun, 21 May 2017 06:53:44 EST ID:bJrisuWk No.59324 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>59321
the council of the nine is eternal and they are the true authors of star trek, gene was merely a conduit.
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Commander Suran - Sun, 21 May 2017 08:50:05 EST ID:samNUQ7B No.59325 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59321

look man, if I had to choose between a world where TNG ended at season 3 but this shit never happened, it would be a hard choice.

no one should be making "new" star trek unless it is a Roddenberry, Frieberg, Bannon, Braga, RDM, or maybe those Axanar dudes because why not.
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Vedek Bareil - Sun, 21 May 2017 14:23:35 EST ID:WVrpSik6 No.59327 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59325
>look man, if I had to choose between a world where TNG ended at season 3 but this shit never happened, it would be a hard choice.


STD won't make post Season 2 TNG, DS9, or the good parts of VOY and ENT bad.
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Pax - Sun, 21 May 2017 15:46:58 EST ID:NsYbbNZU No.59328 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>59316
>>explicitly rebuking the Roddenberry cultist mindset that's grown in Trek lore recently
>>recently
Gross. Probably the handlers would detect you trying to subvert something so basic to the message of Trek that it goes all the way back to Roddenberry and the message of how humanity achieved space travel. Plz don't ruin my Star Trek with whatever ideology it is you're looking to peddle?

>>no one makes new shakespeare
Not true at all. Many playwrights have written sequels to Shakespeare's plays, or reinterpretations of them, and they continue to be re-imagined and re-booted as one of the most consistent threads in English narrative. Trek itself plays along a number of times.

>>59325
>>no one should be making "new" star trek
Why? Why do those specific people you mentioned get a pass? After a certain amount of time, any story becomes a part of the shared cultural tradition of humanity, and anyone is free to remix and retell it. Star Trek itself wouldn't exist if it weren't for the tradition of remixing and retelling stories (Star Trek is a clone of Forbidden Planet, among other things, after all.) Currently we set the cut off time for that happening as the life of the author +75 years, but that's totally arbitrary.

If we're lucky, people will still be telling stories about Kirk and Spock, or new adventures of future Enterprises, 1000 years from now. If we said there could never be any new content in the Trek setting, we would see the end of the fandom in our lifetimes. We are just links in a chain, it's more important for us to pass the torch of Trek on to the future than shut it down because we're unhappy with its direction -- we just have to work that much harder to distinguish real Trek from the new stuff, because it will draw in new people, no matter how wrong it itself is.


We /Rom/ulan Now by Chulak - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 13:03:07 EST ID:Wqg7ST5a No.58975 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I had something I was curious about, and maybe this can move the discussion of Romulan culture to here instead of shitting up the DSC thread.

Is it ever explained why Romulans have names like Vreenak, Kretak, etc. when they're supposed to have a huge boner for the Roman Earth civilization? Shouldn't they be named Vespasian and Domitian and Servilla and all that? I know they and Vulcans were once one race, but those names aren't exactly Vulcan either, right?

And while we're on the subject of Vulcans vs. Romulans, it's shown time and again that Vulcans are rather hot-blooded from suppressing everything all the time, and when it's triggered they can get frenzied and w/e. Why are the Romulans constantly portrayed as so cold and calculating then? Wouldn't they, having rejected the path of logic, be more impassioned? - not to the level of Pon Farr or anything because they don't have the suppression factor - but shouldn't they be writing love poems, partying, and screwing all the time instead of scheming against the Feddies?
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Dr. Yuris - Sun, 30 Apr 2017 17:43:37 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.59115 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59114
I really hate that because of proximity to woo i get the reference.
You guys are shit.
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Weyoun 7 - Sun, 30 Apr 2017 18:31:08 EST ID:KikjBBjU No.59116 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59115
Go get mindmelded Yuris.
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Natima Lang - Wed, 17 May 2017 21:40:00 EST ID:zjSOHbiO No.59264 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>58978
Romulan isn't what they are actually called in their language, the humies called them romulans because of their roman parallels.
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Dr. Leah Brahms - Thu, 18 May 2017 11:36:36 EST ID:KN9lUNxQ No.59287 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59264
lolTerrans
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Ensign Miral Paris - Fri, 19 May 2017 22:19:05 EST ID:zjSOHbiO No.59312 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59287
basically, and all the titles like praetor, senator, etc- all of those are something different in the romulan language. Of course we will always see romulans using the human terms because our TVs have a universal translator unless otherwise stated.


Lawrence Montaigne passes away by C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 15:29:08 EST ID:z4XiRN8Z No.58375 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>StarTrek.com is saddened to report the passing of Lawrence Montaigne, the veteran actor who played the Romulan, Decius, in the Star Trek: The Original Series episode "Balance of Terror" in 1966 and returned a year later to portray Stonn, a Vulcan, in "Amok Time." The actor died on Friday, March 17, at the age of 86.
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Legate Porania - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:46:10 EST ID:NsYbbNZU No.58376 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>58375
>>We are creatures of duty Captain...
>>Just one more duty to perform
All debris into disposal tubes? A bit too soon huh...
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Wesley Crusher - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:46:22 EST ID:Mw2ViAbq No.58377 Ignore Report Quick Reply
F
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Daniel Jackson - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 20:56:40 EST ID:HwIblk4K No.58383 Ignore Report Quick Reply
F
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Natima Lang - Wed, 17 May 2017 22:21:37 EST ID:zjSOHbiO No.59270 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>58376
Forgive me, my old friend...


Your All-Franchise All Star Crew by Shinsookie - Fri, 10 Feb 2017 22:35:44 EST ID:aFhEZLpl No.57961 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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We've all had this discussion before, it's part of being a Trek fan, but I'm curious what my fellow viewers and assorted Taimafolk have to say right now.

>CO) Captain Jean-Luc Picard
  • Why? He's the epitome of the wise leader. Diplomat at his best, warrior when required. His family line meant everything to him but he willingly sacrificed his chances for romance and children in order to stay in the captain's chair. I admired Janeway's mama bear drive to drag her crew home on her back, I loved Sisko's more forceful way of leading, but it still goes to Picard.

>XO) Commander William Riker
  • This was a hard one, because Riker and Kira were both very interesting characters who capably saved the day when their COs were otherwise engaged. But the simple fact that Riker was Picard's understudy makes him the winner.

>Chief Engineer) Commander Charles "Trip" Tucker III
  • I like O'Brien a lot, Geordie had his moment, but Trip was in a lot of ways the heart and soul of Enterprise. His character was so well done Television Without Pity named their award for "best character in an otherwise bad show" the Trip Tucker Award.

>Chief Medical Officer) Doctor Phlox
  • This was a tough one, as I LOVED the EMH and I enjoyed Bashir, but Phlox's role as the outsider on humanity's first warp 5 vessel was well done. He had his very silly moments, yes, but those weren't all we saw of him. He knew when it was go time and he could be a consummate professional. Compare Billingsley's acting as Phlox against Philips' acting as Neelix. Both cheerful outsider characters, but Phillips never knew when to show Neelix's competent and darker side, which to him simply becoming a joke. I also enjoyed how, when Archer was struggling with an ethical dilemma, he often sought advice from Phlox.

>Chief Science Officer) Jadzia Dax
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Guinan - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 21:05:14 EST ID:4X53I0XV No.58109 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>58108
Oh my god I'm so fucking stupid.. I see now. I see. Forgive me.
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Sarina Douglas - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 22:02:23 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.58110 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>58109
You're forgiven Guinan
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Senator Pardek - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 12:18:45 EST ID:aYEMXxXA No.59036 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>57999
>Ship Counselor: Garak
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Pax - Sat, 13 May 2017 21:40:10 EST ID:lvdGdZQd No.59211 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>CO) Myself
hey I'm not asking to be admiral here, but I think I would make the best command decisions given the nature of our vessel's mission/

>XO) Spock
Half-Vulcan logic would be a nice check and balance to my own leadership style, plus Leonard Nimoy was an excellent pohotographer and a definite asset on set. pic related.

>Chief Engineer) Geordi La Forge
Glasses and deductive reasoning. /nuff said

>Chief Medical Officer) Dr.McCoy
in the original series, star fleet doctors still had to practice medicine, while Voyager's emergency medical hologram (based on Jupiter's Dr. Zimmerman) is more like a research bot that can do first aid.

>Chief Science Officer) Seven of Nine
speaking of Voyager, YOU WILL BE ASSIMIILATED
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Pax - Sat, 13 May 2017 21:41:25 EST ID:lvdGdZQd No.59212 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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forgot pic related


How does this video make you feel by Vice Admiral Nakamura - Thu, 04 May 2017 22:43:03 EST ID:3bunwxei No.59145 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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https://youtu.be/7ZWaWrvJ7nA
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Spot - Thu, 04 May 2017 23:37:45 EST ID:UeoEEPXk No.59146 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59145
Like killing myself
How did these subgroups of shitty music and Star Trek cross paths ;_;
Here's a much better better /1701/ video
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bl5TUw7sUBs
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Curzon Dax - Fri, 05 May 2017 23:33:49 EST ID:NsYbbNZU No.59157 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59145
Blegh that's not even a good Ke$ha song, and that's saying a lot. But the video is really well made and pretty fun to watch.

POGO is clearly superior though, I recommend his other non Trek related videos too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agy7tFNt_A8
Do not answer. RESPOND!
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Lt. Diana Giddings - Sun, 07 May 2017 18:50:10 EST ID:YX6hX83Z No.59169 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59145

How does a thing like this even happen?
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Subcommander N'Vek - Mon, 08 May 2017 23:17:42 EST ID:DMbI2BD1 No.59185 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>59145
moar


So what can I do for ya, Pally? by Kira Nerys - Fri, 07 Apr 2017 20:41:49 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.58782 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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You helped Quark smuggle some random drug for some random degenerate planet past the Feddies. He has rewarded you with 30 strips of Latinum, and a free 4 hour session in one of his famed holosuites.

How do you choose to spend it the time in the holosuite, assuming he has any program you could ever want?
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Lt. Talas - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 23:39:36 EST ID:R5+vNoeJ No.59065 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Tom Paris - Mon, 01 May 2017 11:24:10 EST ID:zsuUhNCG No.59120 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>simulate something incredibly traumatic that breaks my psyche
>then simulate a time lapse of me being born as a woodland elf or some cool shit and playing around with fairy pals and the other fair folk, completely convinced of its reality because I've reduced myself to a blank slate
>during this time lapse I'd simulate myself learning a whole bunch of new skills like swordplay, math, musical instruments, engineering, medicine, generic science shit, whatever
>towards the end a figure would appear and be like "hey man, remember your old life? it's time to go back" and then show me vignettes of space life
>be thoroughly confused and at first deny it but come around to accepting it
>emerge from my cocoon a more talented and less emotional baggage-ridden person
>forge friendships with and have a curious attraction to based Vulcans/space elves (eventually resulting in a qt3.1415926 pon farr waifu who I bond with for life) because they remind me of those hazy days in my forest utopia
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Dmitri Valtane - Mon, 01 May 2017 11:34:25 EST ID:mg20blE5 No.59121 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59120
Dude, you have 4 hours in a holosuite. Not an "Inner light" device. Though in fairness if they could make such a device with technology not far off current levels. It's probably possible to replicate it and program it using holonovel tech. You don't need the holosuite. Probably just the bars of latinum.
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The Traveler - Wed, 03 May 2017 12:40:54 EST ID:5uU+DoWU No.59136 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59120
>>59120
That or a similar wish might just be how the borg collective started, because and the end of your "trip" you probably figure to do another iteration but take a few "friends" with you.
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Groundskeeper Boothby - Mon, 08 May 2017 22:58:45 EST ID:SY0gC1Wn No.59184 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>59120
Holy shit my sides.

>probably half my time recreating sexual kink which can't be reproduced in reality
>other half going to holo time periods in american history and turning off the "i didn't notice you just pull out that tricorder" routine and wowing them with modern technology and music, and generally blowing simple virtual past-folk's minds
>escape witchcraft accusations with modern technology if before 1900
>fight in a war or two with god mode on and my dick as a weapon

I might run over on time but that'sa what'sa the 30 strips of spacebux are for


Best Trek by Grand Nagus Zek - Sun, 16 Apr 2017 02:30:06 EST ID:2xbiEPcR No.58851 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Is it just me or is DS9 the best Trek?
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M'Pella - Sat, 06 May 2017 10:59:10 EST ID:6C6kcMFd No.59160 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59159
I liked The Thaw. It was a good episode in the vein of old TOS episodes. And despite his goofy costume, the villain is convincing and memorable.

VOY has a real problem with Janeway soapboxing, though.
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Liquidator Brunt - Sat, 06 May 2017 11:02:48 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.59161 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59160
Yeah it was definitely old school. It's just that the beginning was really off-putting which threw me off. It was meant to be that way though. They may have been weird, but at least these last two episodes have been really interesting. I can feel VOY taking a turn for the better.
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Liquidator Brunt - Sat, 06 May 2017 11:05:36 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.59162 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59159
oops, I just realized I posted in the wrong thread lol, too woken and boken
symbolic nb
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Redcola - Sat, 06 May 2017 12:26:50 EST ID:2Ih0n6L9 No.59163 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I´m fan of Star Wars. Cats are also great astronauts

Look at this and try not to laugh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGq-2gY81os
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Liquidator Brunt - Sat, 06 May 2017 12:39:48 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.59164 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>59163
I like it. Here you go bub.


Star Trek jokes thread by r-e-b-a-r-t - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 19:23:57 EST ID:L51DfOC9 No.58458 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Post your best Star Trek jokes?

What would you call your shoes if they grew beards since last you wore them?

Riker's shoes.
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Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Mon, 01 May 2017 11:53:38 EST ID:SnDK9CRB No.59122 Report Quick Reply
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Your momma's so ugly, when she visited Ferenginar they told her to put on clothes.
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M'Pella - Mon, 01 May 2017 12:58:14 EST ID:klNI8/BK No.59123 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59122

kek
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Karyn Archer - Wed, 03 May 2017 23:52:47 EST ID:zsuUhNCG No.59140 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What do you call a Vulcan who loses their temper? A vulcano
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David Marcus - Thu, 04 May 2017 00:38:40 EST ID:PKjpxs1L No.59141 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>59140
SIMMER DOWN
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Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Tue, 09 May 2017 11:30:32 EST ID:9EdU4BYA No.59192 Report Quick Reply
>>59123
Someone once posted that on a previous Trek joke thread long ago and I always remembered it.


"Trek can't be post-apocalyptic or it betrays Roddenberry" by Mestral - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 20:00:20 EST ID:PKjpxs1L No.59010 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Except the entire series including the movies and STD are set after World War Three, which wipes out billions of people and sends earth back to pre-industrial levels of development.
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Deanna Troi - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 21:47:39 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.59016 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59010
Post apocalyptic implies that in the time period the piece takes place in that they're still dealing with the effects of the apocalypse, and that society is still set back.
Have you ever watched a post apocalypse movie where it's 300 years after the apocalypse and everything is great and they're actually better off because of the apocalypse?
Just because there was an apocalyptic event in the history doesn't mean it's post apocalypse.
If that was so, then we're living in a post apocalyptic setting right now. A comet wiped out the dinosaurs but now it's years later and everything is good, and human wouldn't have become the dominant species without it!
nb for semantics thread.
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Mestral - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 23:11:30 EST ID:PKjpxs1L No.59017 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59013
I don't think much Trek happens in the context of a Galactic Community, and I mean that in the sense of "most of the galaxy is known" like in Babylon 5.
I think STD could really do something with that,.
I would think, though, that Enterprise is just that kind of thing though-- There have been several major long-term wars, and the quadrant is rebuilding.
Andor/Vulcan war, Human/Human war, et c.
I think post-Dominion War Alpha Quad counts. And really, one really great show idea is a post-apocalyptic Earth-Romulan war series. We claw out of WW3 and rebuild, begin to make a new community with Vulcan, Andoria, Rigel, Tellar, only to be blown to fuck by an invisible empire of super dicks.

The Federation, from Enterprise's End really, up to TOS, would be one hell of a tense crawl through twisted metal and broken dreams.
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David Marcus - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 23:31:41 EST ID:NsYbbNZU No.59019 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Post-apocalyptic is a genre in which the action takes place during or after the catastrophe, while civilization is still in shambles. Civilization is not in shambles in Trek, so it's not post-apocalyptic, even if an apocalyptic event is a part of its backstory. Post-apocalyptic tales are about the strife of dealing with catastrophe. Trek is utopian; it's basic premise is that strife has already been dealt with. In a way, Trek is kind of anti-post-apocalyptic.

>>59017
Most of space isn't known in B5, they've actually explored a much smaller amount than the Federation has. In fact, the younger races are mostly contained within the Orion arm. Pic related; the green outline is the extent of the furthest expansion of the Shadows during the war. Since from their perspective the Shadow war was all encompassing, we can assume they don't really know about anything beyond this region.
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Mestral - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 00:35:40 EST ID:PKjpxs1L No.59020 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>59019
Ah, by "Rim" they meant "Border of Known Space" not the actual Galactic Rim.
Fucking misleading is what that is, JMS.
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David Marcus - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 03:33:16 EST ID:NsYbbNZU No.59025 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>59020
Yeah that confused me too, when I watched it as a kid I was imagining it was like the whole galaxy. I still think when the First Ones talk about going beyond the Rim, they do mean the space outside of the galaxy though.


Stardate 420 by Lt. Maxwell Burke - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 14:55:36 EST ID:NsYbbNZU No.58940 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>>Captain's Log
>>Stardate 420.ree
>>I've ordered science officer Spock to chart a course through the atmosphere of Dankicus IV, the only planet in this quadrant that is completely hotboxed.
>>Chief Medical Officer McCoy is now dispensing vaporized medication through the environmental systems, 420 parts per million. His words to me, 'It's lit, Jim.'
>>Engineer Scott is reportedly dabbing hot nails right off the warp core. Engineering staff operating at peak efficiency. His report coming in now, 'It's green!'
>>I'd like to officially note citations for the entire bridge staff. They have taken fat rip after fat rip to the dome and only Chekov is coughing like a little bitch.
>>Helm, set a new course. It's time for the captain to hit this shit. Heading; stoned. Warp factor, high. Engage!

Happy 4/20 /1701/! May your replicators always be full of nugs and your warp cores never breach.
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Biddle Coleridge - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 18:56:57 EST ID:NNu0rHAt No.58944 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>58940
Q'pla!
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Lt. Cmdr. Dexter Remmick - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 20:56:27 EST ID:jo7nUZ1k No.58945 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Miles have you seen my Purple Klingon Skunk plant?
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Curzon Dax - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 22:05:59 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.58946 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>58945
That's the kinda face that makes an accidental spousal airlock accident seem so appealing
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Simon Tarses - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 06:27:49 EST ID:dviAa10l No.58947 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>58946

Miiiiiles...
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Orator Plegg - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 21:22:24 EST ID:zMehEFjD No.58992 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>58946
What is this? the 21st Century? Well no, any other man would just use a teleporter and claim it was an accident but Miles happens to be one of the best transporter techs in the federation so he's fucked himself again.


Chief miles O'brien appreciation thread by Silik - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 00:26:20 EST ID:L3E9v1HE No.58312 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Okay. So I know you took a look at the title and your wondering why. Let me explain before you turn around and arm the photon's. See in a world as big as outlandish as star trek is. It needs normal characters. People who seem much more well, basic.

Think about it. Star trek is filled with people who have can accept making universe changing decisions. Obrien is so diffrent, he does things out of a sense of duty more than anything. He cares about his family. He isn't concered with the layers behind everything.

And that's what makes him such a great foil. Against the back drop of star trek where drastic universe changing things happen on an episode by episode basis its nice to see someone just have simple family problems. And while this doesn't make him the most interesting character, it makes him an important element.

Its easy to forget that even in a world where humanity has moved on, improved so much, that people are still very much people. That people can live relatively normal lives (never mind the random perils of space thats just part of working for startfleet). Sure, there's a little bit of this with a lot of trek characters, but miles is different.

What people forget is that so many of the other charters in trek that we get to see in basic capacities are less than basic people. Captains and their ilk have this romanticism to them, that's not obrien at all. Piccard will tell her we'll always have paris, and a guy like miles will tell her shes a swell girl.

It's important to note that the humanization of treks world becomes a little more plausible through someone like miles. That even if he's not that exciting that he helps step the stage for believability. Its a big universe but, hey someones gotta be at home arguing with their wife.
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Lwaxana Troi - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 03:20:50 EST ID:z0xs5r47 No.58722 Ignore Report Quick Reply
but transhumanism aside, i agree, O'brien is a great dramatic element that adds a lot of charm to the show. He keeps everybodies feet on the ground. I wonder if hes like that as an actor, too, like a no-nonsense stick to the script method actor..

He does his job and collects his paycheck, just like everybody else.
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Lwaxana Troi - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 03:22:19 EST ID:z0xs5r47 No.58723 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hardly anyone from Star Trek ever goes on to have good careers. Its like a career death sentence, once you end up on star trek, you're on Star Trek forever, thats the only work you are getting.
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Persis - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 15:17:30 EST ID:k4sWA7J/ No.58791 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>58723
I think this is sort of true. However the advent of video games means that voice actors are needed and having a nerdy resume and the ability to ham it up are strengths in that field. Same with cartoon stuff. A lot of the actors have a LOT of work there. I think for most of them Star Trek is the best they'll have once they do it. It's like moving to UAE. You can get a lucrative job but it's nearly impossible to move up as a foreigner. You go there when your career has otherwise gone as far as it will usually.

While Patrick Stewart is the obvious exception, Kate Mulgrew was critically acclaimed in orange is the new black and has kept busy. I didn't realise she's also Flemeth. Colm Meaney does alright, but yeah does a lot of graft. He co starred in the Alan Partridge movie which I almost forgot. Poor Pat. Levar Burton has a shitload of awards but reading rainbow predates TNG so there's definitely an element of him going no further there. Most of the rest have done a lot of voice acting but they don't do much more on TV or film.

What I'm saying is it doesn't kill your career as much as limit it.

Though hopefully someone else can think of some "oh shit really?" exceptions now.
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Deanna Troi - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 15:52:23 EST ID:NsYbbNZU No.58792 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>58791
Though it doesn't count as an actual 'gig' Brent Spiner's web series 'Fresh Hell' is pretty hilarious in that Brent plays himself and accurately portrays how much of an unrepentant asshole he is. In one episode he is bumming money from LeVar all the while making fun of how he used to rub his balls on the visor. It's great stuff
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW_fdRrFGbk&list=PLC8E5B4008189A067
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Lt. Cmdr. Dexter Remmick - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 17:02:40 EST ID:jo7nUZ1k No.58958 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>58791
Siddig made it on Game of Thrones for a season, and is playing Ra's al Ghoul on Fox's Gotham next season. Good job on being a handsome vaguely foreign guy in hollywood whose uncle is Malcolm McDowell. Real horrorshow.


Garak's Novel by Subcommander N'Vek - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 04:05:26 EST ID:KjVbhEBa No.58724 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Garak is the best character in all of Star Trek. We know this.

Is Andrew J. Robinson's book "A Stitch In Time" worth the read?

Looking it up just now on amazon it looks like its book number 27 in a DS9 series .... would I have to read these other books to understand the story at the time in the book?
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Ulis - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 05:11:07 EST ID:NQYwnkki No.58726 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>58724
damn, now I'm going to have to go buy a shitload of these books I never knew about.
they all look great.
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Dr. Mizan - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 11:34:12 EST ID:n8McU5oH No.58730 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Is Andrew J. Robinson's book "A Stitch In Time" worth the read?
yes
don't worry about the 27 other books yet
A Stitch in Time is basically the actor's notes about the character's backstory tweaked as a novel.
it has massive spoilers for DS9 obviously, and gives the real answers about Garak (at least as far as his actor saw it), so tread carefully
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Prinadora - Wed, 12 Apr 2017 19:25:28 EST ID:Lqmnk0Ik No.58816 Ignore Report Quick Reply
First, and currently only, trek novel I've ever read.

It's absolutely amazing. Robinson is quite good at writing and it's a shock this was his first book. He made up tons of backstory for Garak and it just feels right when you read it.

Couldn't recommend it enough.
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Emperor Kahless - Wed, 12 Apr 2017 20:36:07 EST ID:NsYbbNZU No.58817 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>58816
>> it's a shock this was his first book
Lots of Trek actors have 'written' books you would be amazed were by them. While undoubtedly they contribute ideas and maybe even rough drafts, they almost always have ghost writers bring it up to professional quality.
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Cmdr. Erika Benteen - Thu, 13 Apr 2017 03:48:38 EST ID:iows5Uco No.58820 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>58817
Yeah but I think he's one of the only ones not to use a ghost writer.

Then again the book is really a rewrite of his journals written to give backstory to the character. If he hadn't been keeping them and giving a thoughtful interpretation to Garak's role in the scripts from the character's point of view.

And we all know that Garak is the best character on the show, and that effort is why.


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