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Recommended Commentary Tracks by Spot - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 13:02:59 EST ID:0JMozmZI No.58104 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Aloha 1701.

Wondering about commentary tracks available for TOS or TNG or the TOS films.

Surprisingly there doesn't seem to be much official online that I can find, and what is available seems to be podcasts which vary in quality.

Any you would suggest? Directions for research? Thanks.
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Sarina Douglas - Fri, 24 Feb 2017 02:03:53 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.58116 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Second Plinkett. They're all really good, and he really does his homework. Plus, he's funny.
Raven Overcoming Orchid !Tz0ULG.7to - Fri, 24 Feb 2017 02:12:18 EST ID:3q2kEMAP No.58117 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I assume you, like me, have completely exhausted the special edition DVD commentaries, maybe also watched as many episodes on the DVDs with commentary as you could too.
Lt. Darien Wallace - Fri, 24 Feb 2017 09:07:32 EST ID:khKbHFr/ No.58118 Ignore Report Quick Reply
TNG commentaries and Plinkett's stuff.
Turanj - Sat, 25 Feb 2017 14:45:00 EST ID:KkTIVQuu No.58128 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Anything with Jonathan Frakes. But you have to drink anytime he says Borgified in FC or gets some detail wrong. Like not knowing the different between an Andorian and a Bolian that Sirtis corrects him on.
Captain Edward Jellico - Sat, 25 Feb 2017 23:40:27 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.58133 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lol I've seen this pic so many times but somehow hadn't noticed the beards on the frosted frakes before.

Star Trek: The Next Voyager by Broik - Wed, 01 Feb 2017 17:22:41 EST ID:syC+oe3F No.57844 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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In an alternate reality, in 'Encounter at Farpoint' right after Q goes on about how 'your current predicament will be challenging enough' and they return the Enterprise is whisked away by a displacement wave and lands at the Caretaker array in the Delta quad. Or maybe instead the journey to farpoint is about testing the Traveler's warp field experiment and they get stuck in the DQ like they almost got stuck in triangulum/the end of the universe.

However you want to think about it, TNG and the Enterprise-D crew's adventures become about crossing the Delta Quadrant, which we will assume contains all the same stuff more or less. Beyond the general ribbing we can get about how much better this show would be than Voyager in general, let's just imagine what it would be like, what characteristics from TNG would have to cross over, etc.

>>Q would still introduce them to the Borg, but more like 'hey idiots this thing is like right over there ready to kill you'
>>Maybe they would pick up Guinan near the El-Aurian homeworld instead of as a distant refugee?
>>.......would there still be Neelix?
>>Klingon couldn't have his redemption arc, and a lot of character's arcs would be effective (the Lore/Soong arc as well)
How would individual characters mature differently dealing with Kazon/Borg/Hirogen shenanigans instead?

Would Picard and Ensign Ro have fucked as giant salamanders? Would Geordi have gotten the ship frozen in time and have to resurrect everyone using Data's severed, frozen head? These are questions the people need answered!
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Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 18:30:24 EST ID:J2q74jQD No.58080 Report Quick Reply
It's too bad because with the quality of story telling we have/can have in games these days, video games is a perfect medium for cool Trek stuff.
Curzon Dax - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 06:51:40 EST ID:Y7GN9mLU No.58083 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Isn't there a distant worlds mod that adds in Trek stuff? But games like that can be made. Indie devs love 4x games. Last Federation, Distant Worlds, Aurora, the various masters of orion spinoffs, etc. So, there is still a chance for a Trek game. They would just need to be made by these smaller dev teams out of passion. Not sure what the licensing would cost. Would that be steep as fuck now that Trek made a comeback in recent years or cheaper? Because I've seen a lot of shit and borderline shovelware made so I can't imagine it's terribly difficult to get a hold of.
Prinadora - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 13:19:22 EST ID:ZYIEvzVd No.58105 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Apparently there's a fan made stellaris mod though I've not tried it. Stellaris would make it work with a few re skinnings and reflavours. Might work better when the next update drops and final goals like transcending flesh or becoming robots are added, and building dyson sphere and ring worlds.

You'd just need to start with a pre set game in motion I guess.
Ensign Wright - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 18:01:15 EST ID:NsYbbNZU No.58106 Ignore Report Quick Reply
On page 7 we had a good discussion about various Trek mods for 4X games. I still vouch for the SOASE mod 100x.
T'Pau - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 20:37:39 EST ID:NUbxvEoE No.58107 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah, I agree Stellaris vanilla is pretty close to approximating Star Trek as a whole. Especially the mid-game where you have your solidified large and medium powers all fucking with each other. One of the cooler things I've seen them adding is a Hive Mind ethic that gives unique government type and seem like an entirely different play style. I also haven't tried the Trek mods, but give it another year or two and there will be some super robust one, I am sure of it.

The reason I'd want a dedicated Trek game as opposed to mods is because there is SO MUCH depth to Trek that you could have extremely fleshed out but you could also do insane things like...imagine the Cardassians finding Khan or the Romulans stumbling upon Data and fixing him up. Or turning the Kazon from a bunch of lil gangsters into a Delta Quadrant Dominion.

The biggest thing lacking in Stellaris to give it a full Star Trek feel is the lack of mid-late game anomalies or things to do with your science ships besides assist research. Though Wiz said on the last stream that they are looking into adding more anomalies in later game but not in the upcoming patch, down the road somewhere. Also I'd like the scientific aspects to be a bit more fleshed out for a Trek game, more than just event chains.

Herbert by Seven of Nine - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 09:40:23 EST ID:dV0i2NZn No.58018 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Trekkie: person who likes star trek.

Herbert: person who claims to like star trek, but never actually watched it.
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Douglas Pabst - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 22:08:53 EST ID:SfiMcBo4 No.58030 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>the Star Treks never visit the Spider Planet
Corporal R Richards - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 13:37:57 EST ID:sQLio0UG No.58038 Ignore Report Quick Reply
okay, have fun in eden!
KC Hunter - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 05:32:17 EST ID:7e7M3PkH No.58041 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Does such a person exist?
Nanpart Malor - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 16:30:20 EST ID:NsYbbNZU No.58047 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think, with the OP pic in mind, OP is specifically getting in a jab at people who claim to like Star Trek, but have never watched *Star Trek*, as in TOS. Which is actually probably quite a few, people who are only familiar with the TNG era or, god forbit, jjshit
Chulak - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 16:44:50 EST ID:6C6kcMFd No.58048 Ignore Report Quick Reply
They're mostly the casual viewers. People like my sister, who watch it as just another show. A show they like, but not one they think is special.

What would you have made instead of Insurrection? by Jack Crusher - Sat, 30 Jul 2016 14:17:00 EST ID:k5sRUJT7 No.55392 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Something that I have been wondering for quite a while. Why did they make Insurrection?

I mean, it had almost nothing to do with anything and had a message that had been told much better in non-Trek stuff. I mean, Picard himself had assisted with forced relocations before without too many qualms (See "Journey's End")

So, what would you have liked to see instead, anything Trek related. I mean, would you have done a different movie with the TNG cast? Maybe do one final TOS film? Gone through with the original idea of it being a film all about Q? Done something with the DS9 crew?

I personally always thought that they should have used it as a nice cross-over, bringing Sisko, Picard and Janeway together for something, maybe to do with the Dominion War. Maybe have a bit where Voyager temporarily makes it back to the Alpha Quadrant for a little time and explain how Voyager managed to use 123 of their "irreplaceable" 38 Photon Torpedo complement.

I kinda like the idea of Defiant, Enterprise-E and Voyager just having crippled the bad guys ship, but at the cost of their own, when the bad guy opens a portal to escape to the Delta Quadrant. Naturally, Picard is like "Someone needs to follow them back to the Delta Quadrant and stop them. Enterprise is best equipped for this mission. We'll see you when we get back in 70 years." Before suddenly they get disabled by a few shots from Voyager with Janeway going "Can't let you do that, Captain. We've been trapped in the Delta Quadrant for a long time, we can handle ourselves, but the Federation needs her flagship here to fight the Dominion."

So, let's hear what you would have done in the late 90's.
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Jossen - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 05:40:10 EST ID:5aCbAqEw No.57751 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There is also S3:EP2 Ensings of command

He sends his killer android to remove people who literally spilt blood claiming the land. Though there were aliens coming to murder them and a starfleet treaty with said aliens... on second thought, it's the same episode you said minus the don't remove native minotiries theme.
Nurse Jabara - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 06:13:16 EST ID:2CjFaDB+ No.57753 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's one thing I have noticed in TNG that kind of irks me: The Federation is very careful with the rights and wishes of minority groups, but generic Federation humans/humanoids get the shaft an awful lot. The moment they're considered part of the ingroup by the Federation they're expected to make sacrifices they often don't really want to make.

And that's how you get the Maquis. This is another one of those things that really shows how brilliant and necessary DS9 was.
Captain Shelby - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 08:43:49 EST ID:/v2iRwaA No.57754 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Vulcans will come by soon. When they do, THE TERRAN EMPIRE BEGINS! "Board their ship, take everything g you can!"

I'm pretty sure this was established as the origin of one of the series' mirror universe episodes. Making a First Contact out of it would be pretty sweet though.
Kessick - Wed, 25 Jan 2017 19:59:55 EST ID:syC+oe3F No.57763 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's the teaser to part one of 'In a Mirror, Darkly' in ENT. Don't get too excited though, it's mostly just footage from the movie with a closeup of a shotgun going off and some dudes yelling cut in.
Section 31 - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 12:47:58 EST ID:2S6V/6gV No.58036 Ignore Report Quick Reply

They should have just ran the Frakes/Sirtis Insurrection commentary in theatres. Will's Erection > Insurrection

Rick Sanchez by Commander Dolim - Sat, 20 Aug 2016 05:23:01 EST ID:y1BP3bZP No.55793 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How would Rick fair in the Star Trek universe?
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Burt Ryan - Sat, 20 Aug 2016 19:56:04 EST ID:/M7y7o2O No.55810 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I predict it would end in a showdown between Rick and Q that would tear the galaxy in twain. In the end Rick would use some device to blow up the universe and be left floating alone in the empty space that was left of everything burping about how he won, then Q would poof out of nowhere, start rebuilding the galaxy, and they would both laugh and go in for the most epic brograb ever to behold by beings both sentient and omnipotent.

Also they would go way back in time and make Archer fat.
Guinan - Sat, 20 Aug 2016 21:46:21 EST ID:Y/rBvJIY No.55811 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Fucking gold lol
Helena Rozhenko - Sat, 20 Aug 2016 22:33:11 EST ID:+5hgZe3l No.55815 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Kai Opaka - Sat, 20 Aug 2016 22:33:48 EST ID:siczhJsP No.55816 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I bet Rick would lead the Enterprise on an epic wild goose chase.
Also, all the posts in this thread are gold. An other prime example of why /1701/ is the best board in all of 420chan.
Guinan - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 00:03:22 EST ID:cR6S8W8N No.57927 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Picture is the opposite I feel about this thread from way back in 2016

Star Trek Waifu/Husbando Thread by DaiMon Bok - Thu, 22 Dec 2016 22:38:02 EST ID:Mo/cULC+ No.57459 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So, Star Trek '09 is mediocre, and Into Darkness is terrible. But I actually quite liked Beyond.

And I have never waifu'd as hard as I do for Jaylah. Holy shit. I felt like a teenage girl in a crush in the theater, and I've watched the movie twice since then and not felt any different.

>mfw "I do not know what is a welcome mat"

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K'Ehleyr - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 04:40:07 EST ID:0ZbRzUd0 No.57750 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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dat potato chin
Gaila - Mon, 30 Jan 2017 08:14:29 EST ID:9ZzCz+KL No.57814 Ignore Report Quick Reply
She was annoying as fuck to me. The whole movie was written in an annoying way.
Guinan - Wed, 01 Feb 2017 01:02:58 EST ID:RHNGWoY0 No.57840 Ignore Report Quick Reply
JJ Abrams pls go
Legate Turrel - Wed, 01 Feb 2017 07:49:36 EST ID:eYlFtKzK No.57841 Ignore Report Quick Reply
the only things out of the entire kelvin timeline worth keeping are:

the Borg(/elachi hyprid) Tech used to make the Nerada that abomination; because it gets used in STO on a D'D and produces a way more scary foe

and the justification for Nero's name from the novelisation, because it means Sela's actual name is Alice and she can't let go of it
DaiMon Bok - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 01:16:02 EST ID:T9o5ymNT No.57870 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Dominatrix worthless whiny bitch

Episodes you like that no-one else does by Erika Benteen - Thu, 05 Jan 2017 08:42:52 EST ID:2CjFaDB+ No.57579 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm generally not too fond of ENT, but I found myself thinking about Rogue Planet after watching the SFDebris review. I actually rather likes the episode, for ENT's standards. First off, I don't think a lot of the complaints about it in the review stick. Sure, the planet looks kind of vanilla for the premise, but Star Trek was never about that sort of thing. The vast majority of planets we see have breathable atmosphere and are generally Earthlike. In that, the Rogue Planet is actually an interesting departure, and I do think the element of night works, visually. I also like the wonky visors, because they fit into ENT's theme of the crew using more down to Earth means to do their thing. Of course, Archer acts like an idiot. But he always does. I didn't find his behaviour to be any weirder, and it's kind of explained away by the nature of what's happening. I can accept that.

But the core theme of Rogue Planet seem very "Trek" to me. There are no real bad guys, because the hunters are well-rounded characters who have a set of sensible values. SFDebris mentions that it's kind of weird that "hunting went out of style on Earth 100 years ago" in ENT's universe, but there's a simple explanation: ENT is trying to be TNG and got its timeframe wrong. However, at the same time the statement is ambiguous. Hunting already *has* gone out of style. My grandfather used to hunt big game in the jungles of Indonesia, but stopped when he noticed that the animals were disappearing. Now, they are all gone, and so are the jungles. It's not longer feasible to hunt in the style of those hunters in Rogue Planet on Earth *today*, except for a privileged few. Presumably that's the state the Eska (the hunters) are in, except they go to the rogue planet instead of Africa. Most hunters in our society shoot species like deer or boars, who are in abudance due to the lack of apex predators predating them. Now, ENT puts this point where we collectively stop hunting slightly more than 30 years from now. That's a bit risky, but Trek also has an alternative timeline compared to us. By this time they've had two more world wars than we've had, and Asia has been ruled b…
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DaiMon Birta - Sun, 29 Jan 2017 13:48:43 EST ID:zsuUhNCG No.57806 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Lwaxana is a lot deeper than her frivolous facade, but the frivolous facade is, when taken with the knowledge that it is somewhat of a facade, all the more entertaining. That's not to say that she isn't legitimately frivolous, but it adds a certain dimension of detachment from life until shit hits the fan. You know, like she exercises more discretion and flexibility with her personality than anyone else in star trek, who pretty much act the same way all the time.

I also like how she directly violates all of the stereotypes you would expect from a show's resident telepath.
Lysia Arlin - Mon, 30 Jan 2017 09:15:59 EST ID:MUJ4M6tq No.57815 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>likeable human

Don't let their appearance fool you comrade, the Betazoids are merely another slave races of the Human Federation.
Jannar - Mon, 30 Jan 2017 12:52:55 EST ID:UKKS3Tki No.57818 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I would add though, that she initially wasn't written like this and I think the show's writers changed the character without actually changing anything.

It's actually a pretty clever/economical bit of writing when you think about it. They made her actions in later episodes not only show more depth and humanity on her part but they also cast her previous actions in a different light, changing the way we thought about them. As opposed to just retconning or contradicting previous things.
Kessick - Tue, 31 Jan 2017 02:00:42 EST ID:zsuUhNCG No.57823 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Good point
It's interesting how with subtle trickery you can use the future to change the past
Ranjen Solbor - Wed, 01 Feb 2017 11:21:05 EST ID:x12Rs4f9 No.57842 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yes comrades, the humans will destroy us in the future if we do not destroy them first. A dark shadowy figure from the X files, or enterprise, or something told me.

Star Trek related dreams by Alexander Rozhenko - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 13:33:56 EST ID:TJx6CT+d No.57757 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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This morning I had a dream that was basically sort of a sequel to Threshold, but without Paris having sex with Janeway and giving birth to their children as lizards.

Basically Paris tries to go transwarp again in a shuttlecraft but instead of slowing transforming into a horny lizard he ends up just... floating in space. Torres then rescues him but this Torres is from a universe where everyone is a weeaboo so her shuttlecraft is full of weeaboo shit and is bright pink and has a lot of Sega arcade games in it. She tells Paris to pass time by playing some of them and she says that the only way to go back to his own world is by doing another transwarp, which can only be done while he is playing Hatsune Miku Project Diva. So they manage to do that but somehow they end up in Disney's 1993 hit movie Homeward Bound with Torres as the cat and Paris as the pitbull.

They go through the movie as usual and when they get to the family they run into Janeway who is the golden retriever and for some reason Picard is also there as a bird. The dream ended there. I'm pretty sure pitbull!Paris tried to impregnate cat!Torres.
Raven Overcoming Orchid !Tz0ULG.7to - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 15:10:56 EST ID:PDoEVFqX No.57758 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So your dream is catdog prequel
Guinan - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 21:46:41 EST ID:RHNGWoY0 No.57759 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Fuck yes, your individual neurons can work together without your consciousness mind to write an episode of trek far better than most of Enterprise
Noonian Soong - Wed, 25 Jan 2017 01:36:24 EST ID:jvgrHyAd No.57760 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Word sounds like an interesting dream
I had a dream a few weeks ago where me and my best friend fell off a cliff mansion thing after partying and after having a nightmare fall, got picked up by a shuttle craft and Worf and Geordi told us we were being stupidly unsafe
David Marcus - Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:12:27 EST ID:TJx6CT+d No.57768 Ignore Report Quick Reply
At least yours made sense. I think mine is telling me to keep being a weeaboo and avoid pitbulls.

Happy Birthday Royalties by Corporal Kelly - Wed, 18 Jan 2017 16:54:24 EST ID:nA4Z62pB No.57707 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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DS9 S3E18 Distant Voices

In this scene a Dabo girl and Garak sing "Happy Birthday To You" in its entirety to Julian. From what I understand, the song was still under copyright then.

Did Paramount have to pay royalties to Warner-music for the use of this song in this episode? Or did this one slip by EVERYONE involved?
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Vekma - Wed, 18 Jan 2017 19:18:07 EST ID:xmR6+9bR No.57711 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't imagine that it would slip by copyrights but then again I don't see why they would put the song in its entirety in the episode considering how much it costs, so idk..
Seamus - Wed, 18 Jan 2017 21:16:19 EST ID:KikjBBjU No.57712 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It was. There was a lawsuit that proved its copyright was fraudulent and Warner had to pay back its fees its collected. It's public domain now.
Vekma - Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:05:57 EST ID:xmR6+9bR No.57713 Ignore Report Quick Reply
nice, I didn't know that. I bet they had to pay a pretty penny.
Grimp - Thu, 19 Jan 2017 17:36:53 EST ID:nA4Z62pB No.57714 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Right but Paramount / Star Trek has avoided using Happy Birthday before. In my googling for this very post the ONLY OTHER trek/birthday reference was to the TNG S7E11 episode Parallels where Worf was skipping through dimensions.


In it they wanted to use klingon translations of the song but to the tune but switched it to For He's A Jolly Good Fellow.

Also, For He's A Jolly Good Fellow was used as the birthday song in another DS9 episode.... i'll find it later.
Thalen - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 00:37:22 EST ID:NUbxvEoE No.57722 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think For He's a Jolly Good Fellow is a much better song to be serenaded by than Happy Birthday and I'm happy Trek used censorship to its artistic advantage in this case.

Healthy as a regalian ox by Michael Sullivan - Fri, 20 Jan 2017 06:25:12 EST ID:5aCbAqEw No.57718 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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It's a common saying between all alpha quadrant people. But what the fuck is a Regalian Ox and just what does it look like? More importantly, how long lived is it that it's known quadrant wide as a healthy animal?
Weyoun 8 - Fri, 20 Jan 2017 12:38:56 EST ID:UKKS3Tki No.57721 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What kind of despicable melanoid slime Wesley asks questions like that?

I guess they're like Oxen on earth but from Rigel and you can be "strong as a ox" usually meaning healthy as well. And given we listen to everything translated into hue mon then it'd be the human name. So most of the time unless it's really catchy like "Targ" they're just going to compare it to something we know already.

Engineers Ranked by Morn - Thu, 08 Dec 2016 20:27:57 EST ID:sS5y1lLA No.57253 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Best: O'brien

Profile: The most "bare bones" of the engineers, capable of doing a lot with little. A real knuckle-dragger.

Pro: Famous of making broken stuff work.

Con: Has bad luck
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Commander Dolim - Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:12:43 EST ID:dV0i2NZn No.57696 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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TOS Top Red Shirts Ranked

Fourth: Ensign Harper

Profile: Followed orders to his own fate.

Death: Vaporized by the M-5 Mulitronic Unit.
Commander Dolim - Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:13:31 EST ID:dV0i2NZn No.57697 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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TOS Top Red Shirts Ranked

Fifth: Ensign O'Herlihy

Profile: Tactical aide, sent to help outfit Cestus III.

Death: Killed by Gorn Disruptor fire.
Daniel Jackson - Thu, 19 Jan 2017 21:29:32 EST ID:9gwZOrlu No.57717 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>You'll be back,...they always come back.

Red shirts never come back
Michael Sullivan - Fri, 20 Jan 2017 06:27:13 EST ID:5aCbAqEw No.57719 Ignore Report Quick Reply
some one better make trading cards out of this thread. I'd do it but I have neither the time nor the ability.
Weyoun 8 - Fri, 20 Jan 2017 12:35:04 EST ID:UKKS3Tki No.57720 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I love that Jeffrey Coombs is the biggest category.

Also we need a "best captains who are not the captain" so Maxwell, Jellico, Solok (baseball xenophobe Vulcan guy) that sort of thing.

We've avoided the obvious one and I think skirting round it as closely as possible is a very necessary option.

How would each captain fare in the Mass Effect universe? by The Doctor - Sat, 14 Jan 2017 13:34:40 EST ID:OikXj97p No.57660 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Who would choose Destroy, Control, or Synthesis?

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