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Star Trek Waifu/Husbando Thread by DaiMon Bok - Thu, 22 Dec 2016 22:38:02 EST ID:Mo/cULC+ No.57459 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So, Star Trek '09 is mediocre, and Into Darkness is terrible. But I actually quite liked Beyond.

And I have never waifu'd as hard as I do for Jaylah. Holy shit. I felt like a teenage girl in a crush in the theater, and I've watched the movie twice since then and not felt any different.

>mfw "I do not know what is a welcome mat"

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K'Ehleyr - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 04:40:07 EST ID:0ZbRzUd0 No.57750 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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dat potato chin
Gaila - Mon, 30 Jan 2017 08:14:29 EST ID:9ZzCz+KL No.57814 Ignore Report Quick Reply
She was annoying as fuck to me. The whole movie was written in an annoying way.
Guinan - Wed, 01 Feb 2017 01:02:58 EST ID:RHNGWoY0 No.57840 Ignore Report Quick Reply
JJ Abrams pls go
Legate Turrel - Wed, 01 Feb 2017 07:49:36 EST ID:eYlFtKzK No.57841 Ignore Report Quick Reply
the only things out of the entire kelvin timeline worth keeping are:

the Borg(/elachi hyprid) Tech used to make the Nerada that abomination; because it gets used in STO on a D'D and produces a way more scary foe

and the justification for Nero's name from the novelisation, because it means Sela's actual name is Alice and she can't let go of it
DaiMon Bok - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 01:16:02 EST ID:T9o5ymNT No.57870 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Dominatrix worthless whiny bitch

Episodes you like that no-one else does by Erika Benteen - Thu, 05 Jan 2017 08:42:52 EST ID:2CjFaDB+ No.57579 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm generally not too fond of ENT, but I found myself thinking about Rogue Planet after watching the SFDebris review. I actually rather likes the episode, for ENT's standards. First off, I don't think a lot of the complaints about it in the review stick. Sure, the planet looks kind of vanilla for the premise, but Star Trek was never about that sort of thing. The vast majority of planets we see have breathable atmosphere and are generally Earthlike. In that, the Rogue Planet is actually an interesting departure, and I do think the element of night works, visually. I also like the wonky visors, because they fit into ENT's theme of the crew using more down to Earth means to do their thing. Of course, Archer acts like an idiot. But he always does. I didn't find his behaviour to be any weirder, and it's kind of explained away by the nature of what's happening. I can accept that.

But the core theme of Rogue Planet seem very "Trek" to me. There are no real bad guys, because the hunters are well-rounded characters who have a set of sensible values. SFDebris mentions that it's kind of weird that "hunting went out of style on Earth 100 years ago" in ENT's universe, but there's a simple explanation: ENT is trying to be TNG and got its timeframe wrong. However, at the same time the statement is ambiguous. Hunting already *has* gone out of style. My grandfather used to hunt big game in the jungles of Indonesia, but stopped when he noticed that the animals were disappearing. Now, they are all gone, and so are the jungles. It's not longer feasible to hunt in the style of those hunters in Rogue Planet on Earth *today*, except for a privileged few. Presumably that's the state the Eska (the hunters) are in, except they go to the rogue planet instead of Africa. Most hunters in our society shoot species like deer or boars, who are in abudance due to the lack of apex predators predating them. Now, ENT puts this point where we collectively stop hunting slightly more than 30 years from now. That's a bit risky, but Trek also has an alternative timeline compared to us. By this time they've had two more world wars than we've had, and Asia has been ruled b…
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DaiMon Birta - Sun, 29 Jan 2017 13:48:43 EST ID:zsuUhNCG No.57806 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Lwaxana is a lot deeper than her frivolous facade, but the frivolous facade is, when taken with the knowledge that it is somewhat of a facade, all the more entertaining. That's not to say that she isn't legitimately frivolous, but it adds a certain dimension of detachment from life until shit hits the fan. You know, like she exercises more discretion and flexibility with her personality than anyone else in star trek, who pretty much act the same way all the time.

I also like how she directly violates all of the stereotypes you would expect from a show's resident telepath.
Lysia Arlin - Mon, 30 Jan 2017 09:15:59 EST ID:MUJ4M6tq No.57815 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>likeable human

Don't let their appearance fool you comrade, the Betazoids are merely another slave races of the Human Federation.
Jannar - Mon, 30 Jan 2017 12:52:55 EST ID:UKKS3Tki No.57818 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I would add though, that she initially wasn't written like this and I think the show's writers changed the character without actually changing anything.

It's actually a pretty clever/economical bit of writing when you think about it. They made her actions in later episodes not only show more depth and humanity on her part but they also cast her previous actions in a different light, changing the way we thought about them. As opposed to just retconning or contradicting previous things.
Kessick - Tue, 31 Jan 2017 02:00:42 EST ID:zsuUhNCG No.57823 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Good point
It's interesting how with subtle trickery you can use the future to change the past
Ranjen Solbor - Wed, 01 Feb 2017 11:21:05 EST ID:x12Rs4f9 No.57842 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yes comrades, the humans will destroy us in the future if we do not destroy them first. A dark shadowy figure from the X files, or enterprise, or something told me.

Star Trek related dreams by Alexander Rozhenko - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 13:33:56 EST ID:TJx6CT+d No.57757 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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This morning I had a dream that was basically sort of a sequel to Threshold, but without Paris having sex with Janeway and giving birth to their children as lizards.

Basically Paris tries to go transwarp again in a shuttlecraft but instead of slowing transforming into a horny lizard he ends up just... floating in space. Torres then rescues him but this Torres is from a universe where everyone is a weeaboo so her shuttlecraft is full of weeaboo shit and is bright pink and has a lot of Sega arcade games in it. She tells Paris to pass time by playing some of them and she says that the only way to go back to his own world is by doing another transwarp, which can only be done while he is playing Hatsune Miku Project Diva. So they manage to do that but somehow they end up in Disney's 1993 hit movie Homeward Bound with Torres as the cat and Paris as the pitbull.

They go through the movie as usual and when they get to the family they run into Janeway who is the golden retriever and for some reason Picard is also there as a bird. The dream ended there. I'm pretty sure pitbull!Paris tried to impregnate cat!Torres.
Raven Overcoming Orchid !Tz0ULG.7to - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 15:10:56 EST ID:PDoEVFqX No.57758 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So your dream is catdog prequel
Guinan - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 21:46:41 EST ID:RHNGWoY0 No.57759 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Fuck yes, your individual neurons can work together without your consciousness mind to write an episode of trek far better than most of Enterprise
Noonian Soong - Wed, 25 Jan 2017 01:36:24 EST ID:jvgrHyAd No.57760 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Word sounds like an interesting dream
I had a dream a few weeks ago where me and my best friend fell off a cliff mansion thing after partying and after having a nightmare fall, got picked up by a shuttle craft and Worf and Geordi told us we were being stupidly unsafe
David Marcus - Wed, 25 Jan 2017 21:12:27 EST ID:TJx6CT+d No.57768 Ignore Report Quick Reply
At least yours made sense. I think mine is telling me to keep being a weeaboo and avoid pitbulls.

Happy Birthday Royalties by Corporal Kelly - Wed, 18 Jan 2017 16:54:24 EST ID:nA4Z62pB No.57707 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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DS9 S3E18 Distant Voices

In this scene a Dabo girl and Garak sing "Happy Birthday To You" in its entirety to Julian. From what I understand, the song was still under copyright then.

Did Paramount have to pay royalties to Warner-music for the use of this song in this episode? Or did this one slip by EVERYONE involved?
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Vekma - Wed, 18 Jan 2017 19:18:07 EST ID:xmR6+9bR No.57711 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't imagine that it would slip by copyrights but then again I don't see why they would put the song in its entirety in the episode considering how much it costs, so idk..
Seamus - Wed, 18 Jan 2017 21:16:19 EST ID:KikjBBjU No.57712 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It was. There was a lawsuit that proved its copyright was fraudulent and Warner had to pay back its fees its collected. It's public domain now.
Vekma - Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:05:57 EST ID:xmR6+9bR No.57713 Ignore Report Quick Reply
nice, I didn't know that. I bet they had to pay a pretty penny.
Grimp - Thu, 19 Jan 2017 17:36:53 EST ID:nA4Z62pB No.57714 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Right but Paramount / Star Trek has avoided using Happy Birthday before. In my googling for this very post the ONLY OTHER trek/birthday reference was to the TNG S7E11 episode Parallels where Worf was skipping through dimensions.


In it they wanted to use klingon translations of the song but to the tune but switched it to For He's A Jolly Good Fellow.

Also, For He's A Jolly Good Fellow was used as the birthday song in another DS9 episode.... i'll find it later.
Thalen - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 00:37:22 EST ID:NUbxvEoE No.57722 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think For He's a Jolly Good Fellow is a much better song to be serenaded by than Happy Birthday and I'm happy Trek used censorship to its artistic advantage in this case.

Healthy as a regalian ox by Michael Sullivan - Fri, 20 Jan 2017 06:25:12 EST ID:5aCbAqEw No.57718 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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It's a common saying between all alpha quadrant people. But what the fuck is a Regalian Ox and just what does it look like? More importantly, how long lived is it that it's known quadrant wide as a healthy animal?
Weyoun 8 - Fri, 20 Jan 2017 12:38:56 EST ID:UKKS3Tki No.57721 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What kind of despicable melanoid slime Wesley asks questions like that?

I guess they're like Oxen on earth but from Rigel and you can be "strong as a ox" usually meaning healthy as well. And given we listen to everything translated into hue mon then it'd be the human name. So most of the time unless it's really catchy like "Targ" they're just going to compare it to something we know already.

Engineers Ranked by Morn - Thu, 08 Dec 2016 20:27:57 EST ID:sS5y1lLA No.57253 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Best: O'brien

Profile: The most "bare bones" of the engineers, capable of doing a lot with little. A real knuckle-dragger.

Pro: Famous of making broken stuff work.

Con: Has bad luck
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Commander Dolim - Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:12:43 EST ID:dV0i2NZn No.57696 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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TOS Top Red Shirts Ranked

Fourth: Ensign Harper

Profile: Followed orders to his own fate.

Death: Vaporized by the M-5 Mulitronic Unit.
Commander Dolim - Tue, 17 Jan 2017 20:13:31 EST ID:dV0i2NZn No.57697 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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TOS Top Red Shirts Ranked

Fifth: Ensign O'Herlihy

Profile: Tactical aide, sent to help outfit Cestus III.

Death: Killed by Gorn Disruptor fire.
Daniel Jackson - Thu, 19 Jan 2017 21:29:32 EST ID:9gwZOrlu No.57717 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>You'll be back,...they always come back.

Red shirts never come back
Michael Sullivan - Fri, 20 Jan 2017 06:27:13 EST ID:5aCbAqEw No.57719 Ignore Report Quick Reply
some one better make trading cards out of this thread. I'd do it but I have neither the time nor the ability.
Weyoun 8 - Fri, 20 Jan 2017 12:35:04 EST ID:UKKS3Tki No.57720 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I love that Jeffrey Coombs is the biggest category.

Also we need a "best captains who are not the captain" so Maxwell, Jellico, Solok (baseball xenophobe Vulcan guy) that sort of thing.

We've avoided the obvious one and I think skirting round it as closely as possible is a very necessary option.

How would each captain fare in the Mass Effect universe? by The Doctor - Sat, 14 Jan 2017 13:34:40 EST ID:OikXj97p No.57660 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Who would choose Destroy, Control, or Synthesis?

REMOVE HASPERAT by Morn - Wed, 12 Feb 2014 16:52:10 EST ID:aL4bqBrq No.42882 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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REMOVE HASPERAT remove hasperat
you are worst bajoran. you are the bajoran idiot you are the bajoran smell. return to federation. to our dominion cousins you may come our contry. you may live in the zoo….ahahahaha ,bajor we will never forgeve you. resistance rascal FUck but fuck asshole bajoran stink prophet sqhipere shqipare..bajoran genocide best day of my life. take a bath of dead kai..ahahahahahBAJOR WE WILL GET YOU!! do not forget occupation. bajor we kill the first minister , federation return to your precious terok nor….hahahahaha idiot bajoran and federation smell so bad..wow i can smell it. REMOVE HASPERAT FROM THE PREMISES. you will get caught. cardassia+dominion+pah wraiths=kill bajor…you will occupation/ gul dukat alive in cardassia gul dukat making album of cardassia . fast rap gul dukat cardassia. we are rich and have latinum now hahahaha ha because of gul dukat… you are ppoor stink bajoran… you live in a hovel hahahaha, you live in a yurt

gul dukat alive numbr one #1 in cardassia ….fuck dominin ,..FUCKk ashol bajorans no good i spit in the mouth eye of ur flag and planet. gul dukat aliv and real strong wizard kill all the bajoran farm aminal with pah wraith magic now we the cardassian rule .ape of the zoo presidant jarseh-inyo fukc the great satan and lay egg this egg hatch and bajor wa;s born. stupid baby form the eggn give bak our clay we will crush u lik a skull of vole. cardassia greattst empire
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Nurse Alyssa Ogawa - Fri, 13 Jan 2017 13:19:32 EST ID:UKKS3Tki No.57653 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh yeah, he does run a restaurant so yeah I guess so. I suspect any of the Siskos can handle themselves in a kitchen.
Krax - Fri, 13 Jan 2017 18:53:18 EST ID:/M7y7o2O No.57655 Ignore Report Quick Reply
jake doesn't know how to do shit besides press a replicator button or yell at his granpappy and dad to make him food

fucking writers
Lore - Fri, 13 Jan 2017 19:49:58 EST ID:nOeQUDSk No.57656 Ignore Report Quick Reply

At least he doesn't need females to chew his food for him like Nog!
Valkris - Fri, 13 Jan 2017 21:18:26 EST ID:/M7y7o2O No.57657 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Nog doesn't NEED females to chew his food for him, he GETS females to chew his food for him

Nog was a fucking pimp son, while Jake was crying his dignity out wasting his lifes dream on writing Weyoun approved spacepaper articles Nog was chilling in bed doing some bumps of beetle snuff while Kira and Dax(the good one) were spitting up the chewed remains of replicator entree 103 right onto those pointy smiling teeth
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>while Kira and Dax(the good one) were spitting up the chewed remains of replicator entree 103 right onto those pointy smiling teeth


Holographic Immortality by Lt. Daniels - Tue, 27 Dec 2016 05:17:50 EST ID:sQLio0UG No.57492 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Would the Doctor as a deathless hologram eventually decide to terminate himself?

He will by default outlive everyone he'll ever meet, see countless centuries pass by.
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Jack - Fri, 06 Jan 2017 11:28:18 EST ID:MUJ4M6tq No.57593 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>it really makes you wonder what historians will think of our civilization in 700 years time
Azan - Fri, 06 Jan 2017 21:47:59 EST ID:NUbxvEoE No.57600 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The backup in Living Witness is a classic example of Voyager inconsistent writing. Though it's one of the better episodes of all of Trek, IMO.
Lorian - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 02:33:13 EST ID:zsuUhNCG No.57628 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I like this. If the doctor took enough time to learn how to reprogram his own subroutines he could become literally anything. He's different from solids and other genetic creatures in that his code was literally meant to be interfaced with and modified by an intelligence, so it's probably much easier for him to modify himself and for it to have a predictable outcome than it is for a humanoid to modify themselves.

He could become an omniscient, holographic god given enough memory to store his shit on. He'd just have to move past his own originally programmed biases.
Data - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 07:34:08 EST ID:N1v2Vs8N No.57629 Ignore Report Quick Reply
thats starting to happen in one of the Myirad Universes stories, after he gets intergrated into a medical archive and becomes everyones doctor
Guinan - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 21:29:14 EST ID:RHNGWoY0 No.57633 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How fucking sick would it be if we got a series where the Backup Doctor returns to the alpha quadrant to find that in this universe (due to the interference of future Janeway) things turned out differently than in the universes glimpsed from travelers through time.. let's say he returns instead to find his former self in such a godlike form, having interfaced entirely with the planet Bynar and its people. Basically it'll be Bob Picardo as both hero and villain in an alpha quadrant 700 years further into a dystopian future where backup Doctor has to instill federation values in a ragtag group of rebel freedom fighters on a hyperfuturistic starship

Or alternatively, we could have a continuation of the story of the alpha and beta quadrants in the years where the future part of all good things is supposed to happen.. all kinds of old characters could pop in from any of the three TNG era series for cameos and old storylines could finally get closure.. we could see a Romulan Empire crippled by a supernova destroying its home system being conquered by the Klingons, Bajor rising to be a major threat to the alpha quadrant and starting a crusade against the Federation, hints from the Gamma quadrant that Odo's return has had unexpected consequences, and the story of Garak working to rebuild the Cardassian Empire as a Republic , which comes to befriend the Federation

OR we could have had an exploration of the Enterprise B and C, watching the war between Cardassia and the Federation, seeing a young O'Brien and a young Picard face peril and adventure, bridging the era of the TOS movies and the early days of TNG and fleshing out the background left unseen..

Oh well

50 years of Star Trek by Chairman Koval - Thu, 08 Sep 2016 16:27:43 EST ID:EXdCEhpg No.56106 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Today is the 50th year anniversary of when the TOS episode 'The Man Trap' first aired. It all began when a womanizing alcoholic had an idea that turned into a global sensation.
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Kang - Wed, 04 Jan 2017 23:00:19 EST ID:rKPlmQHv No.57577 Ignore Report Quick Reply

When I first started going into watching Voyager, I was expecting to hate Janeway from what I read, but I really like her. The issue is definitely more with the writers being shit with everything, just not one character in particular.
Erika Benteen - Thu, 05 Jan 2017 07:05:15 EST ID:2CjFaDB+ No.57578 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well, I don't like Mulgrew. I don't like her portrayal of the character. That's just personal, but it doesn't change my opinion. I mean, I can recognize that Brooks and Shatner are really chewing the scenery at times, but I still like them. I don't think Mulgrew has a lot of range, from the only other big role I've seen her in.

>I hear this way more from her haters than I do from people who like her as a character. (As in arguing against the straw man SJW). The show certainly didn't do this outside of times it would be important the character's gender is involved, which is perfectly fine.

That's just personal experience. I don't exactly search out these opinions, and this goes back through years of being a Trek fan, but there have been a *lot* of people that I've seen in online that specifically mention her gender as a positive. I've *also* seen a *lot* of people who mention Jeri Ryan's tits as a positive character trait. I'm not putting words in their mouths, though (that is, strawmanning). I'm just saying that there are a lot of people who cut the character slack because of her gender, from what I've seen. And I can sort of get it, because Janeway *is* a no-nonsense female captain. Honestly, that's the sort of character I tend to really like, and one Trek kind of needed, so maybe that's why I'm so hard on Janeway. Nothing is so frustrating as having what you want dangled in front of you, and having it snatched away.

Of course you're right that it's the writing. But I don't see a difference between the writing and the character. There's no perfect, untouched Janeway out there, just the one we got. I watch those SFDebris revies, too, and it's interesting how VOY fell apart. Like I said, I think a big problem is that it's Trek written by committee. I do credit them when they do it right, and I still like to watch VOY, but Janeway is simply one of the big negatives for me, because of how prevalent the bad writing is in connection to her. It's not all about the calls she makes, for instance, but also about how she's inserted into every plot as a main character, to the point where …
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Rionoj - Fri, 06 Jan 2017 21:39:22 EST ID:UKKS3Tki No.57599 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>This sort of focus-group writing is also prevalent with the universally loathed Neelix.
You've just answered a question that I've been babbling about for ages. That is why Neelix is sometimes a bumbling retard and sometimes a competent crafty and seasoned traveler with a soft side who plays it up/pretends to be a bumbling retard as one of his most dangerous tricks.
Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Sun, 08 Jan 2017 13:01:03 EST ID:yEQ1J5RE No.57615 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh shit, is that why he has similar mannerisms with Columbo?
Guinan - Sun, 08 Jan 2017 20:38:24 EST ID:RHNGWoY0 No.57619 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Holy fuck you just blew my mind.. I never really noticed since he looks like some kinda fishcattratt, but now that you mention it..

STAR TREK 4 EVA by Captain Kurn - Mon, 12 Dec 2016 04:33:39 EST ID:Z7NLaDXl No.57292 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Boq'ta - Fri, 30 Dec 2016 04:26:51 EST ID:UKKS3Tki No.57524 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>whatever the fuck it is we do on this board.
Debate the future of society and technology and abuse Worf mostly.
Kimara Cretak - Fri, 30 Dec 2016 05:13:06 EST ID:2CjFaDB+ No.57525 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You are without honor!
Boq'ta - Fri, 30 Dec 2016 14:15:50 EST ID:UKKS3Tki No.57530 Ignore Report Quick Reply

But at least I didn't spend 7 years being thrown across the bridge of the federation's flagship. Repeatedly refuse to lead the klingon empire so some boggle eyed power hungry fuck can make all the wrong decisions. But I can't blame him for being intimidated by Sisko, that guy punched Q.
Lt. JG Nog - Fri, 30 Dec 2016 16:30:38 EST ID:L3E9v1HE No.57531 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You know when I was first watching deep space 9 and voyager i kept hoping and hoping that there was more q. I'd kill for a q collective focused movie. Feels like there's still so much more you could do with them. Hell john de lance looks like can still do the role.
Tavek - Fri, 30 Dec 2016 18:35:36 EST ID:oEbW8QcV No.57532 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There really should have been a scene with Worf after he joined DS9 where someone mentions the Q incident.

All the Other Earths by Leeta - Wed, 21 Dec 2016 00:31:00 EST ID:+5hgZe3l No.57417 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I was thinking about just how ridiculously many other earths/earth-humans we learn there are in TOS. Not even counting people who merely look exactly like humans, in the relatively near part of our galaxy there is:
>Earth 2: A planet that has the exact same surface geography as Earth, plus a bunch o' crazy kids ("Miri")
>892-IV: A planet with the same water/land ratio as Earth that has developed so identically as to have an identical English language, which is the dominant language despite the planet being full of a bunch o' crazy Romans ("Bread and Circuses")
>Omega IV: A planet that mimicked ours so exactly, that it developed a cold war between the USA and Russia thousands of years before the ones on the original Earth did, so much so that the English language and the word choice in the Declaration of Independence are exactly identical. Proceeded to fuck each other in the ass until they all died. Technically, we are a copy of them, not the other way around. ("The Omega Glory")

>Ekos: A planet with a human like species manipulated into adopting a Nazi party identical to the one on Earth. ("Patterns of Force")
>Sigma Iotia II: A planet contaminated by a shitty gangster novel into emulating '20s Chicago (and then later the crew of NCC-1701 if the comics are to be believed.) ("A Piece of the Action")
>Amerind: A planet inhabited by genuine Native Americans who actually are from the original earth. ("The Paradise Syndrome")

So my point in bringing this up is, apart from just wanting to circlejerk a lol about how ridiculous this is, (inb4 Hodgkin's Law of Parallel Planetary Development) is to think about the realistic implications this would have for the alpha quadrant by the 24th century. A hundred years after all these worlds were discovered by Kirk et al. wtf are they doing?

Are there Omegans serving in Starfleet in pursuit of 'fre-dum'? Are there Iotians who show up in their cheap suits and demand 'a piece a' the action' while hammering out a deal with some Ferengi? Did somebody actually come and help the Amerind, since after all the Prime Directive doesn't apply to…
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Lt. Diana Giddings - Mon, 26 Dec 2016 23:37:36 EST ID:NuytcwMz No.57486 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>The same line of reasoning could be applied as to why the Borg are humanoid..
Actually, if you care about what's in the non-canon sources, and there are conflicting origin stories for the Borg in them, but in one of them the Borg actually are descended from humans (Starfleet, no less) who went into the distant past, which is why their name for themselves is based on the english word for 'Cyborg.'
Seska - Wed, 28 Dec 2016 14:20:43 EST ID:zsuUhNCG No.57504 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>be changeling
>can genetically engineer new races and modify existing ones
>have control over an entire quadrant
>hate solids, don't like being around solids
>so instead of genetically engineering/accelerating the evolution the races that I have control over so that they may become changelings or changeling variants themselves, which is something that I know can be done because my race was once solid and is also something that would be preferable to galactic domination because that way I would be uplifting the galaxy so that it becomes a place I can tolerate, I decide to be a stereotypical comic book villain and enslave the galaxy even though I don't really need to

Changelings piss me off because their philosophy was almost enticing but fucking unravels just so that ds9 could have a villain.
Talok - Wed, 28 Dec 2016 17:55:13 EST ID:KikjBBjU No.57505 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Uhhh, Changlings thought themselves as gods. Why on earth would the want to make MORE of them? It's always been about domination for that. Hell, for all we know the whole "Solids oppressed us" is something they tell themselves to make them feel better about what they do.
Legate Damar - Thu, 29 Dec 2016 12:30:52 EST ID:4k/5xWss No.57516 Ignore Report Quick Reply
While this is true, the changelings live for "the great link" I don't know if "more of them" is applicable when they describe themselves in terms like "the drop becomes the ocean" and "the ocean becomes the drop". Turning everyone into changelings would just mean a bigger link. However they'd still need an external presence to protect and expand without someone chucking a nuke at them or something.

As such I don't think it's "why would they want more?" but that it's simply not practical. The only security would be found in taking over the whole universe and then what if people reject it?

The federation aggressively seeks new friends and will keep expanding to find them. While the dominion already sees the universe as full of infinite threats which must all be neutralised one way or another and keeps expanding for that.
Grand Nagus Zek - Thu, 29 Dec 2016 15:49:30 EST ID:L3E9v1HE No.57517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Having changelings try and add everyone into their core the great link can't work. It makes them way too much like the borg and sort of assimilating everyone into their core. They still could have had them be an outside faction that didn't just feel a need to fuck everything up though. I agree with that completely.

In fact I'd love a star trek that just focused on diplomatic relations with a small amount of action. Do exploration shows, diplomacy with little bits of action. The war in deep space 9 is cool and all, but I just like the idea of something ongoing that's a little different than that.

I get the feeling that there will be no solid answer on the borg for a long long time. Like 20 years or more. I really want a solid answer, the non canon sources are also of relatively little importance to me though.

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