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Voyager is a Family Sitcom by Ensign Hogan - Mon, 03 Oct 2016 22:26:51 EST ID:bCORpcrD No.56519 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Janeway and Chipotle - mom and dad, maybe divorced and remarried. They sit in their own chairs in the living room.

Tom - Janeways son. Sits directly in front of the TV and flips channels.

Kes - Janeways young daughter.

Harry - Tom's neighborhood friend. He won't leave.

Neelix - literally the cat.

Tuvok - Some kind of grandpa. Maybe the father of Chipotle's dead ex or something.

BLT - Chipotles daughter. Older than Tom. Things get weird when they develop feelings.

7/9 - Grown up version of Janeways daughter. Some how ends up with Chipotle.
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Captain Edward Jellico - Mon, 10 Oct 2016 07:35:21 EST ID:PSyPzxMl No.56598 Ignore Report Quick Reply
ENT is:
Archer + Trip are college roommates who still live together a decade later
T'pol is the hot foreign chick that moves in across the hall that they both crush on
Reed is the building's security guy, ex-military, paranoid
Phlox is the hippy thats way into homeopathy
Travis is the homeless kid living in the vents

I'm partial to the idea that he is the youngest child of the last Talaxian Emperor, who panicked and ran away when the war came to the Home System

it would explain how the Talaxian Fleet in Exile was willing to go up against Voyager under Nistrim control
Mila - Mon, 10 Oct 2016 12:44:30 EST ID:KQsfxjH3 No.56600 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That or made it so there was always an ambiguity about his biggest bumbling incidents. Losing his lungs, getting caught in crime etc. The lungs could have been anyone I guess but if he'd actually been planning a lot of it all along, and the end turned into a triple or quadruple cross and voyager benefiting very tangibly as a result instead of him having a death wish it'd have worked much better.
Guinan - Mon, 10 Oct 2016 14:02:55 EST ID:VsJ48pNF No.56602 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Tru dat

>Neelix is the bastard son of the Emperor of Talia

This is an amazing idea and I'm adding it to my personal headcanon
Lee - Mon, 10 Oct 2016 15:01:40 EST ID:syaip2dv No.56606 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>ENT is a mid-80s apartment complex sitcom

Holy shit you are right.
Gawdie La Fawge - Mon, 17 Oct 2016 06:02:43 EST ID:6AruuVDu No.56721 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Travis always reminded me of one of the kids on Sesame Street.

The props in Star Trek Beyond by Jannar - Fri, 30 Sep 2016 10:58:02 EST ID:7pxsEMSw No.56486 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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They literally used PVC rain gutters. Pic related.

I can't explain how angry this makes me. If this were a TV show with no budget I would understand. If this were the Wrath Of Khan I would understand...


Are we meant to believe these are high tech master-tubes that transfer high tech shit? BECAUSE THEY LOOK LIKE FUCKING RAIN GUTTERS FUCKKKKKK!!!!!
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The Traveler - Thu, 13 Oct 2016 21:46:56 EST ID:+5hgZe3l No.56665 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So anyone who mentions hate to reduce it is the one responsible for it, got it. I was discussing Star Trek, I was trying to discuss the writing in DS9 vis a vis Sisko's partners (someone else brought it up) and simply because I compared three portrayals of minority relationships in the franchise in a mildly colorful way, I'm a hatemonger. If you're so angry at discussing this, why aren't you yelling at the person who brought it up? Better yet, why don't you actually discuss Star Trek by either responding to my points or bringing up something new, rather than just calling me a hatemonger for some reason I can't fathom?
Yeggie - Fri, 14 Oct 2016 09:09:49 EST ID:syaip2dv No.56673 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>angry at discussing this

With all due respect, your posts are all argumentative and angry.

The rest of us are literally just talking about a show we like.

If you want to have a discussion you need to change your tone.
The Traveler - Fri, 14 Oct 2016 17:03:50 EST ID:+5hgZe3l No.56678 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I generally get angry when people accuse me of things for no reason. If you didn't think my silly comment was accurate, you didn't have to start a hate train about it. I'm going back to posting fancy tubes like I was earlier in the thread.

Look at the high level of fancy tubes TOS brought son. Those aren't even PVC drains. Painted metal pipes. Sexy AF. You work that pipe Scotty.
Guinan - Sun, 16 Oct 2016 19:44:04 EST ID:RHNGWoY0 No.56713 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Which was the best tube in all of Trek?

The Whale Probe



cast your votes now for best technomatic super-tube:

Tom Paris - Mon, 17 Oct 2016 01:16:49 EST ID:+5hgZe3l No.56716 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I voted for the Probe. V'Ger is cooler, but the Probe is more credibly a tube.
Plus, that smoothness...mmmm

Here, have some nazi time tubes.

Borg Buddies from Mirrorland by Turanj - Fri, 07 Oct 2016 23:19:19 EST ID:hHpYnJFH No.56568 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What do you think Mirror Universe Borg are like?

I looked it up and there's some non-canon where they're bigger and more aggressive. But that seems dumb.
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Koss - Tue, 11 Oct 2016 13:00:46 EST ID:Q99uj1Y0 No.56617 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Prime Archer is obviously racist
He actually learns throughout the first couple of seasons and starts actually befriending them in season 3 and you get the feeling that by season 7 he'd be a total xenophile but yeah, initially he's all like "I hate vulcans,and I hate that I want to bang titpole even more". One thing ENT actually did alright was character progression.
So the trans dimensional super biological aliens burst through to our dimension but spared it when they instantly befriended the borg king.

Alternatively if they are divergent the Borg simply ignored the humans for longer. What's interesting is the question of what happens in 500 or 1000 years? If the terran rebels in DS9 perhaps herald a new humanity more like the prime universe perhaps humans do eventually become peaceful and do the universes re converge? Or has the prime universe gone so completely elsewhere? Would Q show up later? Would they already be time travel humanity by then and thus able to deal with the Borg anyway? How will they manage without Admiral Insaneway timehaxxing?
Nanpart Malor - Wed, 12 Oct 2016 09:04:31 EST ID:B1SQswfR No.56636 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Here's a better question; how would the Prime Borg react to the Mirror Borg? Would they try to assimilate them too regardless of their goals? Or would they just go to war.
Rom - Wed, 12 Oct 2016 18:49:50 EST ID:+5hgZe3l No.56646 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I guess it depends on whether you think the Borg mission is genuine or just a smokescreen for a will to conquer. If they genuinely just want to raise quality of life and interface all organisms into the collective, they would probably just assimilate. If it's more of a conquest thing, then no.

Interestingly, in the non-canon sources it is said that the unique thing about Species 8472's fluidic space domain is that it doesn't contain alternate realities; thus there would be no Mirror Species 8472. Maybe this is their Achilles' heel, and Borg from across the multiverse might align specifically to finally conquer fluidic space, and emerge as a pan-multiverse Borg Alliance? Creepy shit.
Seska - Sat, 15 Oct 2016 01:17:47 EST ID:PLLyVu/R No.56684 Ignore Report Quick Reply
mirror borg are space amish
Guinan - Sun, 16 Oct 2016 19:38:49 EST ID:RHNGWoY0 No.56712 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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mfw mirror Borg are just futuristic techno-luddites living in a post-Butlerian Jihad society where AI is outlawed

Captains chair by Lorian - Sun, 09 Oct 2016 03:42:53 EST ID:lBRkOczw No.56590 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Describe the perfect captains chair, would it have a cupholder? Heated seats?
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Rear Admiral Gregory Quinn - Tue, 11 Oct 2016 10:42:57 EST ID:oUKCjBls No.56614 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Seatbelts? Repulsors? Are you just trying to make Picard into Xavier?
Dr. Telek R'Mor - Tue, 11 Oct 2016 11:54:11 EST ID:J6cd56IG No.56615 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Kazago - Tue, 11 Oct 2016 12:20:42 EST ID:zdJLz8PT No.56616 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>the captain's stool

sounds shitty
Ghee P'Trell - Wed, 12 Oct 2016 17:25:56 EST ID:Ld/FqYVV No.56643 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OP do you have source on that picture, it's really pretty?
Administrator V'Las - Sat, 15 Oct 2016 00:18:48 EST ID:UasKFlf2 No.56682 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Mini replicator built in for snacks any time!

OS Fan series by Bernardo Calvera - Mon, 26 Sep 2016 11:50:38 EST ID:CRGKnNsf No.56455 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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New Voyages or Star Trek Continues?
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David Marcus - Fri, 07 Oct 2016 13:32:46 EST ID:b2kjICL7 No.56558 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>56455 The logic is people come from spacial inner's, and from this semi solid state they can reciprocate to our free roam god, travel to places like this one to have relationships, etc. Their mentality is still closely fused from back from the inner's, so their logical choices may seem incoherent for our universe.
Captain Solok - Fri, 07 Oct 2016 18:13:37 EST ID:+5hgZe3l No.56562 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Grilka - Sat, 08 Oct 2016 22:52:51 EST ID:J3LWDK5j No.56588 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>But some of them are just stupid...

The same can be said about every other series.
Ensign Kashimuro Nozawa - Sun, 09 Oct 2016 04:54:50 EST ID:KQsfxjH3 No.56591 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Quite a high proportion are really fucking stupid

Fixed that so it's clear this is not TNG, DS9 or even TOS. That fucking mind meld scene though. Seriously. Seeing it on /1701/tube broke my mind in a way I hadn't experienced in 10 years. Buy the ticket, take the ride, complain to the management later.
Captain Edward Jellico - Sun, 09 Oct 2016 12:38:31 EST ID:O2Y4kuLa No.56594 Ignore Report Quick Reply
At one point Star Trek continues was nothing but good episodes.

Then they made two shitters and the latest one was good #feminism.

Let me Explain the TNG Movies by Ambassador Shras - Sat, 21 May 2016 19:51:09 EST ID:rBooKHbe No.54471 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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At the end of Star Trek Generations, Picard goes into the Nexus after he fails to stop Soren from blowing up that sun. In the Nexus, he meets with an impression of Guinan who tells him he can go anywhere, anytime while inside the Nexus. So Picard in the Nexus goes back to the planet in the Nexus with Kirk in the Nexus. They stop Soren and save the day. However Picard has never left the Nexus.

Now, you may forget that at the beginning of Generations, Picard finds out his whole family has died in a fire, including his nephew. He's the last Picard. So the Nexus knows this, but mistakenly gives him a Christmas fantasy family, when Picard is so heartbroken over his family all he wants is action movie heroics. So what the Nexus gives him instead is: the subsequent movies, they're all super action packed and Picard is John McClain.

TL; DR: First Contact, Insurrection, and Nemesis are all plots generated by the Nexus to satisfy Picard.
Ranjen Solbor - Sat, 21 May 2016 20:26:45 EST ID:CtWKbnGU No.54472 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>the picard nexus fantasy meme

Yeah, not to sound like a dick but we came up with that fucking years ago.

Also Star Trek 5 takes place entirely within Kirks Nexus fantasy.

You are welcome.
Bernardo Calvera - Sat, 21 May 2016 20:48:48 EST ID:rBooKHbe No.54473 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I actually originated this here, but I just made this write up here explaining it to another forum, so I thought I'd repost it.
Guinan - Sat, 08 Oct 2016 22:21:42 EST ID:sehZ/Igr No.56585 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'd just like to throw in a bit of headcanon I saw a month or two ago..

I always thought Star Trek V seemed.. I dunno out of place? Anyways I saw someone say that V actually takes place after the first part of Generations, and is Kirk's nexus fantasy. It makes so much sense, I can't unsee it
Guinan - Sat, 08 Oct 2016 22:22:46 EST ID:sehZ/Igr No.56586 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh fuck lol it was in this thread.. oh well I really just wanted to bump an old fucking thread now you all see the truth

the executive by Burt Ryan - Tue, 04 Oct 2016 03:44:44 EST ID:k0y9aN88 No.56521 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Did he do it? Was he the executive?
Lt. Reginald Barclay - Fri, 07 Oct 2016 14:51:46 EST ID:xFnlgs1F No.56561 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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He is the Great Bird of the Galaxy.

Can we talk about how Vulcans are supposed to be Demons? by Rekelen - Mon, 03 Oct 2016 18:06:21 EST ID:+5hgZe3l No.56514 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So clearly Vulcans were originally intended to be Demons/Devils in TOS, but the later series got away from using this plot thread (for obvious reasons) but I think it makes the Vulcans a much more interesting species and really drives home the importance of the relationship between humans and vulcans in particular.
WTF am I talking about?
The design for Vulcans was clearly inspired by the Overlords from Arthur C. Clarke's "Childhood's End." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Childhood%27s_End
In that story, humanity's first contact with aliens comes in the form of meeting the alien Overlords who have been watching over our planet, waiting for our species' childhood to end to introduce themselves. Their appearance is so shocking it is initially kept a secret; they look exactly like Demons/Devils of Christian and other mythologies.
This is explained by saying that humans possess a kind of reverse genetic memory; we saw those forms as demons because subconsciously we could see into the future and knew those forms would herald the 'end of the world' (at least, the world as it was before we reach into space.)
In TOS Spock is frequently made fun of as looking like a devil, or Satan himself. Just like he borrowed things from all kinds of sci-fi to mold Trek, I think Roddenberry's clear intent was that Vulcans look demonic because humans in the Trek universe also had this kind of reverse memory and knew that the arrival of the Vulcans would mean the end of the world as they knew it. What else could we figure out if we take this as true?
Vulcan is a hot, hellish world. I submit that it is only called Vulcan because they couldn't get away with naming it Hell.
Is the philosophy of logic/IDIC philosophy basically a kind of Satanism? (It certainly hews close to a LaVeyan kind of Satanism) alternatively is there a suggestion of rationalism = Satanism?
The coming together of humans and Vulcans was the catalyst which formed the Federation. After the fact, because there are so many humans in starfleet, it is usually humans who are the ones who make the first contact missions that 'end the childhood' of new worlds. Thus wouldn't those worlds imagine their demons as loo…
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Lt. Cmdr. Jack Crusher - Mon, 03 Oct 2016 18:29:13 EST ID:siczhJsP No.56515 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Very interesting stuff, this post made me stroke my goatee.
>alternatively is there a suggestion of rationalism = Satanism?
I guess it could be suggested, as logic is often countering morality

The Moment by Leonard McCoy - Wed, 21 Sep 2016 20:29:37 EST ID:0EObkRJk No.56385 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Been Doing a DS9 Rewatch, got to Season 5, Episode 12, "The Begotten" where Odo helps raise a changeling child.

There's a part about halfway through where Sisko shows up and tells Odo that Starfleet wants daily updates on his progress, and if he wants to stay in control he needs to make progress faster or someone else will take over the project.

The moment to me presented an interesting Parallel to Picard's actions in the episode "The Offspring" where Data makes Lal and a Starfleet Admiral tries to take possession of her, even issuing a direct order, and Picard is willing to put his entire career up on the line to defy this order on moral grounds.

It's interesting to compare these two moments for a number of reasons.
Firstly, Starfleet's involvement in Odo's efforts was odd from the start. Odo bought the child from Quark for like 4 spacebucks, so technically the changeling was Odo's... property? Wait, shouldn't the sale of sentient life be illegal under Federation or Bajoran law? And in the course of the episode Starfleet goes from a nebulous advisory position to threatening to take over the project. Where did that authority come from? I guess as part of an agreement to use DS9's scientific facilities to conduct his research?

But anyway, they get the Changeling to take some forms so The Brass never presses the issue again, but if they had and Odo had said "fuck off I'ma raise this boi" who would Sisko have sided with?

It's True Sisko and Odo have a different relationship than Picard & Data, Picard was a sort of Mentor or even father figure for Data whereas Odo is already a mature and fully independent being that only needs advice on dealing with cultural disparities like any other officer. But they were cordial and had a good working relationship which seemed to involve a genuine mutual respect.

On the other hand, this was during the Dominion War, and Sisko showed he would go to extreme lengths to win that war, but on the other hand his blessing in Dr. Bashir's efforts to destroy Section 31 show that he isn't just Starfleet's unquestioning goon. He has strong principles. And Sisko is a father himself, so there might be sympathy there, I should hope his principals stand firmly against child abduction. But the younger Changeling isn't really Odo's child in the way Lal was indisputably Data's creation, but then again the Changelings all seem to reproduce from the Great Link so this would at least qualify as Odo's... sibling?
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Guinan - Thu, 29 Sep 2016 00:32:31 EST ID:sehZ/Igr No.56477 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Nigga I'd like to see you try

last time that we did a shot-for-shot challenge, the Iconians went extinct
Q - Thu, 29 Sep 2016 01:41:29 EST ID:+5hgZe3l No.56478 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Like anyone misses them! Maybe this time we will get lucky and the sniveling humans will be the ones to go the way of the dodo. I can't say I'd mind, although I would miss my dear Jean-Luc.
I raise you a bottle of...of...well, it's green.
Lt. Cmdr. Dexter Remmick - Thu, 29 Sep 2016 05:40:58 EST ID:wYfxVf1l No.56479 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Alright you two, take it to the fucking holodeck and Sherlock it out
No disabling safety protocols you asshole Q
Vosk - Thu, 29 Sep 2016 09:19:40 EST ID:KN9lUNxQ No.56480 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>we never saw Guinan and Q omnidimensional kungfu fight
Guinan - Thu, 29 Sep 2016 12:40:46 EST ID:sehZ/Igr No.56481 Ignore Report Quick Reply

The trial never ends by The Traveler - Wed, 21 Sep 2016 20:44:27 EST ID:J7qo4quh No.56386 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Who was the most profoundly douchey character on TNG and why was he Q?
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Cmdr. Williams - Wed, 28 Sep 2016 10:50:57 EST ID:bCORpcrD No.56471 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>JK im just lit af

this totally explains why dude was stuck on his screen and didn't tell anyone what was up.
Commander Donatra - Wed, 28 Sep 2016 15:58:28 EST ID:siczhJsP No.56472 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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lol I can totally see that.
too high to ask for help
that takes me back to high school
M'Pella - Wed, 28 Sep 2016 19:26:23 EST ID:+5hgZe3l No.56473 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>whoa fuck man the panels are shifting
>>all these primary colors r trippin me the fuck out
>>does that shit say there are microbes on the hull?
>>fuck I'm lit
>>these niggas don't even know how stoned I am lol
>>should I get some cake?
>>wait FUCK I forgot about the microbes
>>I probably should tell somebody
>>naw dude my eyes are red as shit Picard's going to know
>>I'm gonna go to my quarters put on some Zeppelin and try to figure this shit out
>>let me rip this shit
>>if they ask me about it I'll just say I was still thinking about it
>>those dolphins are fine af tho, time for a little skinny dip
Ensign Vape we salute you.
Leskit - Wed, 28 Sep 2016 22:17:11 EST ID:s0deZgX4 No.56475 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Do we ever even see another one of that species?
Lee - Wed, 28 Sep 2016 22:36:34 EST ID:nycJX7+c No.56476 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Star Trek Discovery by Harry Mudd - Sat, 23 Jul 2016 19:20:11 EST ID:BaUJzlAy No.55302 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Trailer revealing the USS Discovery:


I would say they're definitely going old school trek with this ship design. We could be in for a pretty fucking decent show...though those effects look fucking terrible. I hope that's just a concept design and they're going to get some real cgi artists in there.
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Belongo - Mon, 26 Sep 2016 06:47:56 EST ID:5aCbAqEw No.56453 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My head cannon is that Lecardo or what ever his name was got beat up a lot in prison so he changed to to Tom Paris because it sounded so much like a name that gets you beat up in prison that every one thinks he can fight. Every one who refers to his father as Admiral Paris is just making fun of him to his face.
Guinan - Mon, 26 Sep 2016 11:11:04 EST ID:sehZ/Igr No.56454 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That's funny, my head canon was that he hid his relation to Admiral Paris by using the name Nick Locarno because no bully pls
Admiral William J Ross - Mon, 26 Sep 2016 20:23:31 EST ID:+5hgZe3l No.56459 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I literally just imagine they are saying 'Tom Paris' whenever they say that dude's name. The episode plays a whole lot better when you can tie it into Paris' actual character arc. (It really was their intent that they were the same character, they just changed the name because they didn't want to have to pay that writer royalties for every single episode of VOY)
Anyway back on topic, I was looking over at Memory Alpha and noticed that in the lore there is already a starship Discovery listed in almost every era of the canon: there's an NX-04 Discovery in ENT, and there's USS Discovery in the 24th century referenced on a panel in 'Conspiracy,' and then obviously this new one. Maybe fingers crossed they really will go era hopping, and without even needing to make up new ships, just different ships named Discovery? They have already admitted they are going to let old cast members make cameos, so maybe they are relenting a bit under the weight of what fans want? (which is near universally a series set post-Nemesis)
Curzon Odo - Mon, 26 Sep 2016 23:43:33 EST ID:45x0H12i No.56461 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>just different ships named Discovery

This is the answer here! Well done.
Guinan - Mon, 26 Sep 2016 23:46:51 EST ID:sehZ/Igr No.56462 Ignore Report Quick Reply


oh god please I beg you please

Let this be


Synthehol by Katogh - Fri, 23 Sep 2016 11:46:34 EST ID:hHpYnJFH No.56412 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Synthehol is now real, except they're calling it alcosynth. What a missed opportunity:


After this, what will be the next Star Trek idea to be made real?
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Seamus - Fri, 23 Sep 2016 17:48:27 EST ID:0EObkRJk No.56418 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Guinan - Fri, 23 Sep 2016 21:55:57 EST ID:sehZ/Igr No.56424 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Legate Damar - Fri, 23 Sep 2016 22:28:05 EST ID:siczhJsP No.56425 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Also there is this.
Weyoun 8 - Fri, 23 Sep 2016 23:51:29 EST ID:5aCbAqEw No.56428 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Still banking on the 2067 first contact.
Still bracing for the drug fueled WW3 and wrist machine guns.
Christopher Brynner - Sat, 24 Sep 2016 01:13:02 EST ID:+5hgZe3l No.56430 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Waerp draeve?

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