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List of Star Trek Characters without "Military" Distinctions by Kira Taban - Sat, 02 May 2015 09:34:12 EST ID:SgJjwJfF No.49840 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Everyone else has a Captain or an Ensign or an Admiral or some other "military" title.


Amanda Grayson


Botswana Troi
Mr Homm
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Michael Jonas - Sat, 02 May 2015 21:12:22 EST ID:SgJjwJfF No.49858 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>one episode
>still no title

why are we even arguing about this.

I was trying to make a point about the military nature of Star Trek.
Seamus - Sat, 02 May 2015 22:31:48 EST ID:j7/s29H+ No.49861 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The Doctor was still the Chief Medical Officer on Voyager. It wasn't a rank, but it did count as a "military" position, as he had the authority to put people on medical leave.
Composer Delvok - Sat, 02 May 2015 23:04:07 EST ID:YPf0Iy7i No.49862 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>Chief Medical

Ok I have come around and I agree now.

Still, have we all been watching Navy Tales in Space?
Captain Paul Rice - Sun, 03 May 2015 08:46:16 EST ID:GgYQlPHu No.49876 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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TOS was billed as "wagon train to the stars" and Kirk was the marshall going around the wild west having gun fights with the bad guy of the week.
DaiMon Bractor - Sun, 03 May 2015 09:38:46 EST ID:yiAUI90S No.49877 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OP missed a lot of characters out. Though only a few major ones admittedly. Shit loads of people who never appear but are definitely there on the enterprise and DS9 that aren't military. Let alone on the planet of the week.

It would be navy tales in space though as starfleet seems to be the professional military for the federation. All you need is ground troops and then your space ships which can also do orbital and bombardment, fly through the sky (with ace pilots like Paris and Riker), land, go underwater (thanks based structural integrity field, also sub mariner Paris) and almost instant transportation of troops (good old security though most starfleet officer have some combat training, I mean fuck, even Doctor/Commander Crusher has been a black ops operator by the end of the series) and you bet specialised troop transport ships have a fuckload of transporter throughput. Starfleet is the entire armed forces. And the diplomatic and peace corps.

Starfleet is a degree course, that's time for military training but also expertise in science, engineering, history, diplomacy etc. It is more the the military, it's got it's own science (technology but it's also at the forefront of space exploration and astophysics) and engineering departments. Special intelligence. And it's fairly logical it's similar in other cultures. Because star treks are always set on frontiers rather than well explored and settled heartlands there's a lot less civilian traffic. There's probably tourists and commuters in some of the more established sectors but Star Treks will deal primary with the forward facing space agencies of the federation facing the forward facing space agencies of other cultures. So why would that it's primarily starfleet be that surprising?

jj trek sucks by Naomi Wildman - Tue, 13 May 2014 17:54:11 EST ID:IRJMpd4k No.44534 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>check front page
>no 'jj sucks / nuh uh' thread
>create thread

JJ trek sucks.
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Noah Lessing - Sun, 03 May 2015 20:07:16 EST ID:GgYQlPHu No.49889 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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That's the thing. People are pining for a franchise that had been completely driven into the ground with 11 years of generally sub-par TV seasons Though still with a lot of gems thrown in, one decent sci-fi action movie, and 3 pretty bad sci-fi action movies.

Now, was JJ Trek the right answer? Yes and no. It was a clean break from Nemesis. It acknowledged the original canon, while setting itself apart from it in nearly every way possible. ST09 got the characterizations pretty good. I even think it FELT a little bit like TOS. Not the TOS movies, but the TV show, and not in an Insurrection way. It was campy sci-fi schlock, but 2015 campy sci-fi schlock with a Star Trek finish.

Most importantly though, it showed the executives that the Star Trek brand is still highly profitable. Meaning they're more likely to pursue production of new material. TV series is where Trek will find its roots, anyway, not on the big screen. Hopefully soon after the third movie here...which is a whole different bag of worms and might well be the worst of the 3 simply because of all the production problems.
Morn - Sun, 03 May 2015 20:21:02 EST ID:6NUzwWNk No.49891 Ignore Report Quick Reply
JJ Trek is good because it brought Star Trek from being something stale and boring to being something cool and hip. The stuff made after TNG tried to capitalize on TNGs success but couldnt capture a wider audience. The only issue I have JJTrek is its shallow and superficial compared to the old shows and films that were meaniningful and thought provoking in addition to being exciting. But theyre still cool movies.
Alexander Rozhenko - Mon, 04 May 2015 09:12:55 EST ID:SgJjwJfF No.49895 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>The only issue I have JJTrek is its shallow and superficial

no big deal.
Seven of Nine - Wed, 06 May 2015 12:33:03 EST ID:YPf0Iy7i No.49932 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>According to TrekMovie.com, the third movie in the franchise reboot is set to be called Star Trek Beyond.
Etana Jol - Thu, 07 May 2015 00:48:54 EST ID:mtRYU1np No.49945 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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ohhh yes.. there's hope for trek yet

The "why not" thread. by Boq'ta - Mon, 16 Mar 2015 02:30:44 EST ID:djMyMmry No.49181 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Because you know, fuck it, why not?

How come the Federation, Humans in particular, say, ever try to share their warrior cultures with the Klingons? Or the more war-like aspects of humanity's music and other media? I mean, just how do you think your average Klingon warrior would've responded to fucking Vikings? or Samurai? To cultures that valued honor and keeping oaths and dying gloriously in battle above all else?

And surely, as is displayed by the Maquis and the Federation when shit goes sideways, there has to be some Humans out there that still display warrior-like aspects in their life. I mean personally I think the Klingons would've fucking loved ancient Scandinavian/Viking culture. Ragnarok, Valhalla, dying in battle without fear in your heart and with a weapon in your hand, upholding whatever oath you have taken to your death because to break an oath was one of the worst fucking things imaginable, the whole fucking speel. Never once did any Human afaik attempt to bridge that gap. Was it because Humans are for the most part, loathe to admit they were ever warriors?

And I can't be the only one who thinks Klingons would've responded positively to fucking METAL music, right?

I mean fucking listen to this shit, I'm sure Klingons would love it. Lyrics are in the video for those without an ear for metal.

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Bernardo Calvera - Tue, 17 Mar 2015 04:32:01 EST ID:sKW0+o+T No.49200 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Doubtful. Most of the Nazi victories were against incredibly weak enemies, they failed every time they directly attacked anyone of note, and they're most known for dishonorably massacring civilians like cattle instead of killing them honorably in battle.

Romulans, on the other hand, would look upon the Nazis favorably, with the exception of Hitler's numerous tactical blunders.
Tora Ziyal - Tue, 17 Mar 2015 08:49:30 EST ID:QZO7NCdp No.49202 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah, before anyone argues that. Look at the British army. In the 1930s they ran a wargame/simulation in which they tested the new fangled "tanks" out. They dominated. High command looked at the results and said "No, we need cavalry". Half the reason the battle of Britain wasn't a loss was because we had a bunch of furious Polish veterans with actual combat experience (and so no mortality rate when performing standard landings due to lack of training) with us. The 303 would have climbed on to the cliffs of Dover and hurled themselves at the germans if they hadn't been given craft I reckon. The Klingons would love them.

Also I dunno about metal. Klingons love prune juice too. They see war very differently to us I imagine. They'd probably go to war to the sound of moonlight sonata rather than war ensemble.

Humans aren't really warriors. We spent millions of years avoiding predators and for a while we'd run down our prey and chase them to death but we have always used weapons and wits. We outbred neanderthal who was big, stocky, tough quite Klingon by being smaller, chucking out our young less developed (breeding quicker), needing less food and being better at thinking outside the box (ice age comes in, suddenly the huge Neanderthals are starving while Homo Sapiens is punching holes in ice and fishing and needs less food anyway). The klingons would have gone extinct on earth the same way we would have gone extinct on their home world, because evolution is entirely situational and obviously they didn't face an ice age at such a key point while a more adaptable competitor lurked in the wings.
Amanda Grayson - Tue, 17 Mar 2015 19:27:16 EST ID:PFadsqw+ No.49213 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I think any space faring race must be capable warriors. I think violence is a prerequisite to surviving on their planet alone.
Vedek Bareil - Thu, 07 May 2015 08:23:04 EST ID:p+lyWe+/ No.49951 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just live another 30 years and there's a pretty good chance your dream will become a reality. VR is in it's infancy now, but it's only going to get better at a faster and faster rate as it becomes more and more socially acceptable decide to drop out of society and live in the digital world instead.

I'd put good money on the future (not 4chan) turning out like this: society as a whole decides you don't have to "earn your keep" to merely exist in society, instead giving you the option to plug in to the matrix. The only catch is all the matrix-heads get sterilized and don't reproduce. Boom. Solve the overpopulation crisis AND literally everyone gets what they want because it's all possible via virtual reality.
Sarek - Thu, 07 May 2015 18:26:04 EST ID:GgYQlPHu No.49953 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The TNG Romulans were total KGB/USSR, not Nazis. Inciting civil wars in neighboring Empires and playing cat and mouse with the Federation. I also don't think they were about genocide, though they had no qualms about using slave labor.

Though I think they expertly tweaked real things for TNG, from the more straightforward 1:1 idea of the Klingons being the USSR and the Federation being some kind of UN/NATO force. The Klingons pulled a hard turn somewhere during the TOS Movies I think. They transitioned from more a more intellectual warrior culture to a completely frothing at the mouth warrior culture. Duras always struck me as more of a TOS Klingon type figure. They're probably the same ones who traded the Romulans a bunch of D-7s for the Romulans cloaking technology (must have had a Ferengi broker that deal).

If anything the best parallels to the Nazis and WW2 in general are definitely the Dominion. In the way that Nazi fascism is kind of 180° from American liberalism*, the Dominion was 180° from the Federation. They both come to you, express interest in your culture, ask you to join their organization. They both employ strong diplomats and have the top technology and weapons. The difference is that the Federation has requirements that races want and the Dominion will come in and kill you if you say no. Add into that the Cardassians penchant for light to moderate ethnic cleansing and you get a potent blend.

The Borg are described by Q as "the ultimate user." They're a critique on consumer society and its thirst for the newest and latest gadget. Not Communism. They're like the android/apple fanboy who doesn't even talk to you unless you have the right OS running on your phone.. A shame they became space vampires, but it's another one of Star Trek's famous prophecies about the future. Especially in light of the rise of "wearables." What's Hugh got on his face there? It's the new Apple iPatch of course.

They gave each race their own vaguely analogous traits to certain Human civilizations but moved around some of the parts. So the stories and ideas they present are different but still familiar. One re…
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Porthos likes cheese by Jean-Luc Picard - Tue, 05 May 2015 13:04:16 EST ID:mtRYU1np No.49913 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>For those of you that have never watched Enterprise that want to cut through the bullshit: a viewing guide..

>Fight or Flight (2)
>The Andorian Incident (7)
>Breaking the Ice (8)
>Sleeping Dogs (14)
>Shadows of Pjem (15)
>Fusion (17)
>Fallen Hero (23)

>The Seventh (7)
>Singularity (9)
>Dawn (13)
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Raven Overcoming Orchid !Tz0ULG.7to - Wed, 06 May 2015 16:54:42 EST ID:Ef0VX2iI No.49936 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>skip the pilot

The pilot, taken as its own movie, is better than all the TNG movies, except perhaps First Contact.

You also forgot 'Shuttlepod One'.

I can't go anymore in depth because I'm about to head back to work, but the pilot is great IMO.
Etana Jol - Thu, 07 May 2015 00:36:00 EST ID:mtRYU1np No.49943 Ignore Report Quick Reply

shuttlepod one was an enjoyable character episode.. I guess that one can be thrown in as well.

Also all the TNG movies are terrible lol.. I mainly advise skipping it because its tainted with all the suliban time travellin' bullshit, and the only way anyone can be fooled into thinking Enterprise is good is by completly boycotting that entire arc.


Wow.. I never knew that. Why'd they torpedo their own franchise like that?
Lt. JG Nog - Thu, 07 May 2015 00:42:53 EST ID:4CB75DxJ No.49944 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Because they wanted future stuff (because 2150s isn't future I guess?)
Etana Jol - Thu, 07 May 2015 17:37:11 EST ID:mtRYU1np No.49952 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Why didnt they just reuse the nexus? then picard, kirk, and guinan could've all guest starred
Senator Vreenak - Fri, 08 May 2015 21:35:20 EST ID:FKX+9MDt No.49968 Ignore Report Quick Reply

If you leave out season 3, you leave out that episode with the robot spacedock that eats people as payment for repairs.

Also missing the mirror universe two-parter. That needs to be watched.

Word up by Prosecutor Orak - Sun, 03 May 2015 05:38:16 EST ID:g1nP7if6 No.49873 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I just realised who the cop in this video clip is.

Mistress Janeway by Weyoun 7 - Tue, 28 Apr 2015 13:45:26 EST ID:4MbviPF5 No.49773 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Ensign Harry Kim

Captain's Personal Log:

>I almost didn’t pack the leathers. I hadn’t even given them a thought until recently. This mission has lasted a year. For a long time, the day to day tensions of blending our crews and fighting the Kazon had kept me distracted from the loneliness and the longings. But lately Voyager had settled into a routine. It was an unusual one by Starfleet standards, but it was a routine nonetheless.

Janeway bangs the crew.
K'Ehleyr - Tue, 28 Apr 2015 18:23:30 EST ID:0BHhzonI No.49776 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>The Golden Orgasm Awards are awarded every year by the ASCEM (Alt.StarTrek.Creative.Erotica.Moderated newsgroup) for the best in Star Trek erotica written the previous year.

Oh, dear sweet Web 1.0. You were so gaudily awesome. We miss you.
Ensign McFarlane - Wed, 29 Apr 2015 07:02:25 EST ID:dllfeofD No.49786 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>"I have eaten sufficiently. Now do we begin copulation?"
Ensign McFarlane - Wed, 29 Apr 2015 07:03:33 EST ID:dllfeofD No.49787 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Grand Nagus Zek - Sat, 02 May 2015 11:12:46 EST ID:MEbkckUq No.49847 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Best character of the series: NON-BONER RELATED EDITION by Julius Eaton - Thu, 30 Apr 2015 17:10:34 EST ID:p+lyWe+/ No.49816 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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It's generally accepted that every time Data "misunderstands humans" he's trolling, right? He always has this smug little smirk that tips me off. My friend argues that he's actually socially retarded, like a high-functioning autist. It's never made clear in the series and I can't find anything concrete one way or the other on the net.

As for the thread's general intent, I'd be happy to hear your incorrect opinions of best character.
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Marla Gilmore - Fri, 01 May 2015 12:03:17 EST ID:p+lyWe+/ No.49831 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lol so true...
Broca - Fri, 01 May 2015 13:04:53 EST ID:yiAUI90S No.49832 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Humanity's real skill is that everyone else feels they're benefitting from it. I think in fairness they genuinely do want everyone to be on the winning team, they just believe it's best done by joining them. I think one of the things that makes the borg so threatening is that they have a similar philosophy, they just are willing to take it that much further and be that much more forceful. I imagine even Picard, someone genuinely good hearted reckons everyone will eventually decide to join the federation one day and join the big galactic love fest.

Humans aren't as far past their dark days as Picard believes though, there's plenty of evil people even in starfleet (though a lot more "bad guys" within it are usually damaged people rather than having some agenda, like "the wounded" or "drumhead".

I think data is often oblivious but sometimes he plays it up. Like he knows that's his rep so he uses it as a shield sometimes. Just sparingly though to keep it credible. He doesn't get humans but he's still a genius.
Emperor Sompek - Fri, 01 May 2015 15:58:26 EST ID:iTewGpaU No.49834 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>I think data is often oblivious but sometimes he plays it up. Like he knows that's his rep so he uses it as a shield sometimes.

Like that time he tried to murder this asshole and then lied about it?
The guy deserved it, don't worry. The sick fuck would mutilate people, and was protected by his wealth. He kidnapped data to add to his collection of rare things...

"Murder me – go ahead, it's all you have to do. Fire! If only you could...feel...RAGE over Varria's death – if only you could feel the NEED for revenge, maybe you could fire...But you're...just an android – you can't feel anything, can you? It's just another interesting...intellectual puzzle for you, another of life's...curiosities."

  • Kivas Fajo, taunting Data over his "inability" to kill him

"I cannot permit this to continue."

  • Data, preparing to kill Fajo

"Mr. O'Brien said that the weapon was in a state of discharge."
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Broca - Fri, 01 May 2015 16:11:08 EST ID:yiAUI90S No.49835 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Exactly. That episode definitely comes to mind.
Grand Nagus Zek - Sat, 02 May 2015 11:08:02 EST ID:MEbkckUq No.49845 Ignore Report Quick Reply
God, great episode. It's more of a one-off because they obviously never dare to refer to it again, lest Data develop any sort of character, but still. It's those black dead-serious this-is-really-happening moments that make me love sci-fi.

>normally talks like he's programmed to be unable to conceive of murder of a defenseless individual as a solution to a problem
>justifies said murder
It's just too good.

Best eps of Voyager by Marla Gilmore - Fri, 01 May 2015 09:11:13 EST ID:p+lyWe+/ No.49821 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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From what I've gleaned Voyager is the next best series after TNG. Instead of only having TNG play in the tamia.tv channel which I'm sure many of us have seen all the way through multiple times, I say we either start playing Voyager straight through or pepper in a few of the known good/important story-wise episodes from that series.

I'm not qualified to give any suggestions as to what the good eps are cause I've never seen it myself, but I did find this handy website that shows the IMDB rating on a graph: graphtv.kevinformatics.com/
Lt. JG Nog - Fri, 01 May 2015 09:58:16 EST ID:dllfeofD No.49822 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think we oughta have every episode in the playlist, and voteskip any episode that is particularly terrible.

But then again as far as I know we don't have a reliable source of all the episodes, so making a list of the better ones might be a good idea.

I myself submit 'Timeless' (5x06)
Spot - Fri, 01 May 2015 10:35:31 EST ID:HOFgJ+xA No.49824 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Jadzia Dax - Fri, 01 May 2015 10:39:56 EST ID:SgJjwJfF No.49826 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I kind of like the vote skipping idea, but there are quite a few "bad" voy episodes that I am fond of.

How about we just skip Threshold?
Marla Gilmore - Fri, 01 May 2015 11:48:04 EST ID:p+lyWe+/ No.49830 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm pretty sure you can find every episode streaming relatively easily on alluc.com

Just got this email from the app I use to learn foreign language by Lursa - Tue, 28 Apr 2015 18:52:07 EST ID:CvggMvGP No.49777 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Guess they're going to be offering Klingon sometime in the next year or two!
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Seven of Nine - Wed, 29 Apr 2015 10:48:50 EST ID:ZHtYJko+ No.49790 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ik spreek sommige Nederlands. Niet genoeg.

I have less time to devote to the course than I'd like, but I'm slowly building up my knowledge of the grammar and vocabulary. Duolingo reads questions aloud so I have most of the pronunciations of what I have learned.
Ensign McFarlane - Wed, 29 Apr 2015 11:19:20 EST ID:dllfeofD No.49791 Ignore Report Quick Reply
that's neat, my suggestion is watching some Dutch spoken media with English subtitles, it's why most Dutchies are pretty good at English.

>Ik spreek sommige Nederlands
I assume you directly translated this from: I speak some...
I'm not 100% sure but it could be grammatically correct, however it isn't speaking language, a proper sentence would be:
"Ik spreek een beetje Nederlands." (een beetje = a bit of)
Sommige is somewhat more specific, if I would translate it back to English I'd probably use "some of".
Seven of Nine - Wed, 29 Apr 2015 11:34:52 EST ID:ZHtYJko+ No.49792 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Do you have any specific recommendations for Dutch media? As far as I know, I don't get any Dutch television stations. If there's anything I can find online (including pirated stuff) then it would certainly help me learn.

>Sommige is somewhat more specific, if I would translate it back to English I'd probably use "some of".
Thanks for the correction. "Ik spreek weinig Nederlands." came to mind, but I thought that it would have the connotation that I knew almost no Dutch at all so I was trying to think of another word to use.
Ensign McFarlane - Wed, 29 Apr 2015 12:36:38 EST ID:dllfeofD No.49793 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Didn't think too far ahead, most Dutch media stuff isn't very good, and hardly anything is exported (except for shitty formats like big brother and such). But I found a few decent ones.

This is a pretty funny movie though, which seems to have subs:

Zwartboek ww2 movie, got some international praise: https://kickass.to/black-book-zwartboek-2006-720p-ita-dut-x264-sub-eng-bluray-t10388934.html

I also found this, it's a pretty interesting analysis of the whole Kony 2012 fuckery, and you can watch it right away.

There sadly aren't many good shows or series though, and they're harder to find than movies.

Lastly check out this list (or google) and see what tickles your fancy and try to find a torrent with Eng subs:
Seven of Nine - Wed, 29 Apr 2015 14:46:05 EST ID:ZHtYJko+ No.49794 Ignore Report Quick Reply
These look pretty good. Thanks.

Hold on a second... by Cmdr. Kelby - Sun, 11 Jan 2015 15:32:45 EST ID:XmI2xzXV No.48321 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I don't understand, in a future where you can be scanned by computer and clothing made instantly to the specifications of your measurements, why would there be anyone acting as a tailor?
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Therm0ptic !cyBOrG7t12 - Tue, 28 Apr 2015 21:36:47 EST ID:hVoK8qZM No.49781 Report Quick Reply
He's Weyoun. He is the spam.
I.G. Keval - Tue, 28 Apr 2015 22:46:55 EST ID:4MbviPF5 No.49782 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ban one Weyoun and another will take his place. We are eternal.
I.G. Keval - Tue, 28 Apr 2015 22:47:15 EST ID:4MbviPF5 No.49783 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Awww. My name changed.
Kira Taban - Tue, 28 Apr 2015 23:52:15 EST ID:KSYZ6U62 No.49784 Ignore Report Quick Reply
until Damar destroys the cloning operations on Rondac III
Rebi - Wed, 29 Apr 2015 00:48:37 EST ID:SgJjwJfF No.49785 Ignore Report Quick Reply

No, just high and quoting some Grand Buffet lyrics for no reason, other than they fit the theme of microwaving food.

your thoughts? by General Krim - Thu, 19 Feb 2015 05:27:20 EST ID:asZEFOV5 No.48823 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I thought Beverly was hotter than Troi in a milf and red-headed kind of way.
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DaiMon Solok - Wed, 22 Apr 2015 09:42:54 EST ID:SgJjwJfF No.49707 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I think we are all under the assumption that all star trek crews are having sex with each other pretty much 26 hours a day.
Ishka Moogie - Wed, 22 Apr 2015 09:59:06 EST ID:CvggMvGP No.49708 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Where's Diana Troy guy when you need him
Spot - Wed, 22 Apr 2015 17:44:28 EST ID:mtRYU1np No.49710 Ignore Report Quick Reply

nigga you just went full rascals
Kira Meru - Mon, 27 Apr 2015 15:02:54 EST ID:ZR8Ep8gU No.49770 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Agreed. She's a certified GILF
Naomi Wildman - Tue, 28 Apr 2015 10:54:23 EST ID:ZHtYJko+ No.49771 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm OK with this. I'm really, really OK with this.

TOS is kinda slow by DaiMon Tarr - Fri, 24 Apr 2015 18:19:56 EST ID:5oLABTtK No.49744 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I started my Star Trek "marathon" with ENT because it's hard for me to feel into a pre 80s TV series.

I started with TOS today and it's very "slow" compared to ENT. I am into 4 episodes and it's really tiring to follow the plot.

Should I skip TOS for now and continue with TNG?
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Julius Eaton - Sat, 25 Apr 2015 14:24:54 EST ID:MEbkckUq No.49753 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just wait until you get to the US Constitution episode. People who think TOS is good are head-banging straitjacket-wearing schizophrenics.
Captain Paul Rice - Sat, 25 Apr 2015 15:59:52 EST ID:YPf0Iy7i No.49755 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Yeah but for every Omega Glory there is a Doomsday Machine, and Norman Spinrad wrote the latter and it is fuckwin awesome.
Sarina Douglas - Sun, 26 Apr 2015 20:05:53 EST ID:ZHtYJko+ No.49763 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This. So much this.

There are more gems in TOS than there are turds. It's about as hit-and-miss as the first three seasons of any Trek series.

And at least TOS didn't have:

Space Africans (TNG: Code of Honor)
Crew is too busy having orgies to read the local laws and Wesley is nearly executed (TNG: Justice)
Dr. Crusher and her grandmother having sex with a ghost candle (TNG: Sub Rosa)
A Character whose story arc was never finished is hastily ended in a single episode many seasons later (TNG: Journey's End)
An entire episode of recycled footage (TNG: Shades of Gray)
The writers go on strike (TNG: Masks)
45 Minutes of O'Brien and Keiko trying to care for a mentally handicapped 8-year-old turned 18-year-old (DS9: Time's Orphan)
Quark getting a sex change (DS9: Profit and Lace)
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Ensign Kashimuro Nozawa - Sun, 26 Apr 2015 23:46:52 EST ID:MEbkckUq No.49765 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Kess blew up and became one with the universe, I thought she was done before they brought her back.
Ensign Blokkead - Mon, 27 Apr 2015 00:57:58 EST ID:AVWmPsDi No.49766 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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