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Bump when Watching III by Joseph Sisko - Sun, 03 Apr 2016 18:28:41 EST ID:CtWKbnGU No.53706 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Stumbled across Samaritan Snare and realized we did not have a BWW thread as of late.

>We need things that make us go

Always loved the Pakleds, first for the obvious nod in the name (pack-led) and that they are basically space autists

Anyway, bump whenever you are watching star trek or see it on somewhere.
Mot - Tue, 05 Apr 2016 08:09:48 EST ID:UlBtUPAA No.53721 Ignore Report Quick Reply
DaiMon Solok - Tue, 05 Apr 2016 20:58:02 EST ID:aQZi/3lR No.53729 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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been binging all of sfdebris' reviews for the past two days
Gregory Quinn - Tue, 05 Apr 2016 22:44:39 EST ID:5aCbAqEw No.53730 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Pulling through ENT at the moment. It's my goal to watch all Trek in order of star date.
Going to be straight up through TOS but it will get interesting once I get half way through TNG when I gotta mix it up with the other spin offs.

Any way. Why does Archer lumber around like a retard when ever he speaks.
Slow, stiff, wide paced, lumbering steps. The more I go on the more I think star fleet didn't catch a mental dissability before giving him the ship. Archer is pretty stupid not counting for the pre prime directive and space faring exp seen in TNG.
TOS had some learning points too, see balance of power.
Tallera - Tue, 05 Apr 2016 22:50:05 EST ID:/M7y7o2O No.53731 Ignore Report Quick Reply

If starfleets mental health checks were so poor that they let Broccoli on the Enterprise-D in TNG era imagine how terrible they were in ENT era.
Tokath - Wed, 06 Apr 2016 01:35:20 EST ID:bKHVXNH0 No.53733 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've always loved the fan-canon idea that Archer was such a fucking embarrassment to Starfleet that they buried the records and thats why nothing in ENT is ever talked about in later shows.
Guinan - Wed, 06 Apr 2016 03:51:27 EST ID:sehZ/Igr No.53735 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've never heard that but its brilliant

They could have the Earth/Romulan war be entirely his fault or something

but he still gets promoted to admiral lol
Gregory Quinn - Wed, 06 Apr 2016 03:56:16 EST ID:5aCbAqEw No.53736 Ignore Report Quick Reply
the romulan war was mentioned in TOS. But I remember them saying no visual records because no view screens or what ever. That fan canon is pretty solid.
Ensign Samantha Wildman - Wed, 06 Apr 2016 05:38:20 EST ID:CtWKbnGU No.53737 Ignore Report Quick Reply

The D was a test platform for new command structures and formats.

Broccoli was an inside job.
Q - Wed, 06 Apr 2016 16:51:04 EST ID:rBooKHbe No.53741 Ignore Report Quick Reply
They just had no visual record with the Romulans during that war. Hell, they didn't even establish visual communication in Balance of Terror...the Enterprise just picked up the dramatic camera feed of their bridge.
Q - Wed, 06 Apr 2016 16:52:46 EST ID:rBooKHbe No.53742 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Until the very end
Lon Suder - Fri, 08 Apr 2016 14:48:17 EST ID:5aCbAqEw No.53765 Ignore Report Quick Reply
still on my star date in order run. Trudging through the xindi season. Seriously mid stride it goes "ok taking too long" last time on ENT they solved some shit and suddenly now the weapon. But then not a handful of eps later things just start taking forever again.

I guess they are still trying to make a point of how slow the first enterprise was but really the 3-4 eps of, WE GOIN TO RISA was too much. Ignoring the pre established canon that risa is only a vacation planet because of federation weather contol.
Gilora Rejal - Fri, 08 Apr 2016 16:11:01 EST ID:rBooKHbe No.53766 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Glad to know you're watching it by star date! Just wait til you get to season 4 of ENT!
Commander Tebok - Sat, 09 Apr 2016 06:37:34 EST ID:ajGNdr+g No.53773 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>WE GOIN TO RISA was too much. Ignoring the pre established canon that risa is only a vacation planet because of federation weather contol.
I'm pretty sure it perfectly fits the narrative if Risa had seasonal tourism before they got weather control and seismic regulators. It would even make sense for them to invest into these technologies when already an established tourist world, not the other way around.
It can also mean that before the TNG area Risa had somewhat of another image, more adventurous, and that is what made it become popular later on because they could maintain that brand to make it seem like despite all high tech comfort it's still an adventure.
EMH MARK 2 - Sun, 10 Apr 2016 17:17:52 EST ID:rBooKHbe No.53791 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Season 3 TNG, even the bad episodes are pretty tight.
Persis - Mon, 11 Apr 2016 04:07:06 EST ID:5aCbAqEw No.53794 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hitting that arc in ENT about the augments. Spiner is too good an actor for this. Casually throwing in hints of data just with personality. Even speaks in a similar way.
Jossen - Mon, 11 Apr 2016 14:32:52 EST ID:CtWKbnGU No.53798 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Just started season 13 of Gunsmoke. This is the second season in color, and the third or fourth season of hour long episodes. They seem to have cut out Thad, but he was kind of a Mayweather character anyway, more of a young-faced cardboard standee than a person.

This season first aired in 1967/68, the same year as a certain other show premiered.

Up this this point, a lot of Star Trek actors have been in Gunsmoke episodes. Shat, Nimoy, Kelley, Doohan, Muldaur, Ansara... and more I am sure I have not noticed.

nb because not really star trek.
Kimara Cretak - Wed, 13 Apr 2016 00:02:39 EST ID:5aCbAqEw No.53820 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Got passed the major arcs of ENT. About time. I really hate the modern all encompasing story arc tv shows get these days. Part of what made trek, trek, is that the issue of the ep was resolved, or if not it comes up much later when needed in another story. The one off adventures made it seem more like there was a bunch going on you don't see.

Ent seems like every one on the ship just lives at their post. One day to the next it's all go go go with the same problem you saw last ep.

So it's the quantum transporter ep. Putting star fleet in moth balls. Ignorant fool, need ships to go places to build pads/ defend owned worlds. But what I find most funny. Usually in trek the new face on the ship interacts with the crew and some thing he says or does at some point gets the dramatic music que and a worried look from one of the officers. But the guy is all, nah that's cool tucker, I'll install it my self. que dramatic music and worried look. Oh shit this guy is trouble.
Tavek - Wed, 13 Apr 2016 20:21:40 EST ID:5aCbAqEw No.53834 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Agreed. I did like DS9 even though they had that heavy long arc in the end. And TNG does it well. Some elements are saved and brought up later when appropriate for character deelopment, even the klingon civil war is just Worfs character development. Take quarks character development arcs, the entire Farengi Alliance had a full of economic reform because a Farengi was a main character. Though any arc is two episodes at most during the mid season or season end/beginning.

It is really odd that voyager wasn't more like the later seasons of DS9. It would have made more sense given the situation, every moment shoudl have been tense and always dealing with the unknown and surviving. But the first season was all like, "oh dear, we can't use replicators all the time because to duterium in delta quad." but it was never really an issue when compared to another show with a similar survival element, new BSG. Forget the killer robots chasing you and just think about all the shit they had to do with their ships and people to ensure they could live as a flotilla. People died every day to basic shit like malnutrition to more intense things like machine malfunction or pilot error. The point being every mistake counted and you jst don't feel that in VOY at all.
Commander Tebok - Thu, 14 Apr 2016 07:09:15 EST ID:Qo4yytmf No.53836 Ignore Report Quick Reply

There was a bunch of executive meddling where they wanted VOY to avoid being too dark, specifically no conflict between crew members. I suspect a BSG-style depressing escape would also not match with that. True they could have gone for a lighter version of it (need to search for food and fuel without people starving, for example) but the wildly inconsistent writing quality probably didn't help there.
Commander Donatra - Thu, 14 Apr 2016 08:25:00 EST ID:CtWKbnGU No.53839 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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My take is that Voyager almost became a self-aware science fiction critique using itself as a vehicle as pastiche... At least that is where I think it really shined.

Two pieces of evidence:

  1. Pic related.

2. In the episode "Shattered", (wherein the ship is split into different times/timeliens) there is this great bit of dialog:

>JANEWAY: She's got a pulse.
>CHAKOTAY: I'm detecting an active neurogenic field. This could be the day the telepathic pitcher plant put us all into comas. Or it might be the time aliens invaded our dreams.
>JANEWAY: We've got to get them help.
>CHAKOTAY: Don't worry, we managed to get out of both situations.
DaiMon Tarr - Thu, 14 Apr 2016 18:24:20 EST ID:N4VA8Xv5 No.53847 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>DS9 was pretty cutting edge for trying the whole multi-episode arc thing in the mid 90s.

Not really. Wiseguy had already done it 6 years earlier. And that was a network show. It's almost certainly a product of DS9 being produced in syndication as opposed to being tied down to a network.

>As opposed to a typical crime drama series, Wiseguy was structured more like a typical soap opera would be; for example, a cycle of episodes would focus on a particular story and the story would conclude in the final episode of the cycle, which gave rise to the term story arc. Since each cycle dealt with a particular story, the episodes had a set of characters written just for those episodes. Actors such as Kevin Spacey, Ray Sharkey, and Tim Curry were among the actors who played central characters in story arcs over the course of the series.

DaiMon Tarr - Thu, 14 Apr 2016 18:25:59 EST ID:N4VA8Xv5 No.53848 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Fucked up my copypasta. That should have been:

>DS9 was pretty cutting edge for trying the whole multi-episode arc thing in the mid 90s. It's almost certainly a product of DS9 being produced in syndication as opposed to being tied down to a network.

Not really. Wiseguy had already done it 6 years earlier. And that was a network show.
Kessick - Sat, 16 Apr 2016 16:32:56 EST ID:CtWKbnGU No.53855 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>end of Season III

>Best of Both Worlds

What does this title mean? Is Locutus the best of the borg?

Were they going for something deeper with the title?

I haven't slept much. Sorry.
Gor - Wed, 20 Apr 2016 01:54:33 EST ID:wiVZuv7W No.53904 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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S6E10 of DS9

the most ferengi of all ferengi episodes.
Grilka - Wed, 20 Apr 2016 06:22:47 EST ID:EXdCEhpg No.53907 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That ep is great. Iggy Pop is a bonus.
DaiMon Solok - Sun, 01 May 2016 17:52:41 EST ID:5aCbAqEw No.54083 Ignore Report Quick Reply
On measure of a man. Why is this even an episode they adimited Datas service record calls him a living being not 7-8 episodes ago.
Guinan - Sun, 01 May 2016 22:48:16 EST ID:xZw3XoyR No.54089 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If you're watching by stardate, isn't there an episode after Tasha gets tarred and feathered lol where she is still there, just to give Wesley an anti drug PSA, thereby delaying his ascent to god hood through gay sex with the Traveler and also lots and lots of drugs
Private E Hamboyan - Mon, 02 May 2016 03:29:07 EST ID:5aCbAqEw No.54094 Ignore Report Quick Reply
that was right before when they find the drug dealer and heroine addict planets.
Ensign Kashimuro Nozawa - Thu, 05 May 2016 16:59:36 EST ID:wiVZuv7W No.54159 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Season 7 episode 4

This was the best kind of filler.
Spot - Fri, 06 May 2016 17:38:28 EST ID:414MU9f7 No.54171 Ignore Report Quick Reply

was there an episode where a telepathic pitcher plant put them all into comas?
Guinan - Fri, 06 May 2016 17:55:18 EST ID:sehZ/Igr No.54172 Ignore Report Quick Reply
yeah man it was like some Moby Dick level shit
Nurse Alyssa Ogawa - Fri, 06 May 2016 20:44:07 EST ID:qD7ioL+J No.54173 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah it wasn't really literally a pitcher plant. It was like a giant space version. Actually a way better episode than it sounds.
Guinan - Sat, 07 May 2016 03:10:09 EST ID:sehZ/Igr No.54177 Ignore Report Quick Reply
s5e15, "Bliss"

I thought it was a good episode.
Admiral Alidar Jarok - Wed, 11 May 2016 11:05:24 EST ID:qbvuHKHy No.54242 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Give him a break, how would you like being raised by an inferior species?
Subcommander Velal - Wed, 11 May 2016 13:50:41 EST ID:/M7y7o2O No.54246 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I actually just watched that like two days ago. Probably one of my top 20 VOY eps
Prinadora - Wed, 11 May 2016 14:35:27 EST ID:efXk5d6d No.54248 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That image takes me back.
As I said, way better than it sounds. Good pacing, lots of twists but they all make sense, good guest character with a bittersweet ending.
Subcommander Velal - Wed, 11 May 2016 16:24:57 EST ID:/M7y7o2O No.54249 Ignore Report Quick Reply

that and seven is my favorite female crewman on VOY

kes was just off and tores sucks hard
Cmdr. Erika Benteen - Thu, 12 May 2016 12:34:17 EST ID:aQZi/3lR No.54277 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>kes was just off

Dr. Crell Moset - Thu, 12 May 2016 16:05:25 EST ID:NnG3z1e3 No.54284 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>kes was just off
Oh mate you have no idea.
Li Nalas - Thu, 12 May 2016 18:47:50 EST ID:/M7y7o2O No.54285 Ignore Report Quick Reply

lol no I knew about all that I just meant as a character
Koloth - Thu, 12 May 2016 20:42:55 EST ID:414MU9f7 No.54286 Ignore Report Quick Reply

and she was a good friend
Guinan - Thu, 12 May 2016 21:02:37 EST ID:sehZ/Igr No.54288 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Ocampa live 9 years
>Ocampa only can breed once, and from the dialog of 'Elogium', typically only have one child

Why were the caretakers trying to save this retarded panda of a race again? The entire premise of Voyager was that homeboy was trying to save these fools because he felt guilty for wrecking their shit, but it looks like their extinction was always inevitable.

And Kes as a character was weird.. but Jenifer Lien was apparently a little more weird. Hope she's doing okay.
Jannar - Thu, 12 May 2016 22:54:30 EST ID:7ixSMeHe No.54291 Ignore Report Quick Reply

It's been awhile since I watched VOY S1 but wasn't the caretaker responsible for wrecking their environment and forcing them underground which deprived them of their psychic abilities? Maybe they could flourish more properly and unrestrictedly on the surface and that kept them from going full panda like they were when VOY finds them.
Chulak - Fri, 13 May 2016 00:51:47 EST ID:/M7y7o2O No.54294 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Lets not forget that Kes literally turned into a stupid traveler thing and warped into another dimension where she has a penis and can molest wesley
Guinan - Fri, 13 May 2016 05:16:24 EST ID:sehZ/Igr No.54295 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thy'lek Shran - Fri, 13 May 2016 10:26:04 EST ID:CLehBZc9 No.54301 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Holy fucking shit, how did I never notice that!?
Chulak - Fri, 13 May 2016 10:27:31 EST ID:/M7y7o2O No.54302 Ignore Report Quick Reply

lol I dunno, I'm on my first ever run of VOY so I guess it's just fresh in my mind right now
Third of Five - Tue, 24 May 2016 21:35:54 EST ID:CtWKbnGU No.54524 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>TOS Where No Man Has Gone Before

>TOS The Enemy Within

Captain Goroth - Wed, 25 May 2016 03:00:30 EST ID:EXdCEhpg No.54528 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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TOS s3e09 - The Tholian Web.

It's okay. Not the greatest but there are worse choices out there. The spacesuits always looked like they have microphone helmets.

Plus the tie-in with the ENT mirror universe was pretty awesome
Ulis - Thu, 26 May 2016 09:33:33 EST ID:aQZi/3lR No.54547 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Guinan - Thu, 26 May 2016 18:41:02 EST ID:sehZ/Igr No.54552 Ignore Report Quick Reply

That's a pretty badass headcanon, I'm a convert
Kira Nerys - Fri, 27 May 2016 12:53:55 EST ID:rBooKHbe No.54557 Ignore Report Quick Reply
They explain how Armus comes about though...he was all the bad vibes that got extracted from a society and condensed into liquid tar form.
Roger Lemli - Fri, 27 May 2016 13:48:13 EST ID:CtWKbnGU No.54558 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Yeah that is what he says.

>trusting an oil spill

>assuming 100 years as a pudding would not fuck you up
Lt. Darien Wallace - Tue, 31 May 2016 13:46:25 EST ID:5aCbAqEw No.54608 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Q-Less from DS9 comes right before Tapestry in TNG.

It's like Q got all mad after getting punched in the face and stood up by Vash so he goes to bother Picard again.
Charles Tucker III - Tue, 31 May 2016 14:46:46 EST ID:yUEnpn4n No.54609 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I like the ambiguity, even with the stardate order in consideration. Usually that sort of thing is a cop out but in the end it's like a reverse christmas carol and the fact it might be Q or might just be Picard resolving his own issues just makes it more interesting.

I mean it is very out of character for him, but you just never know. Especially in the light of him just being unappreciated by Vash and Sisko.

What is certain was they had John Delancey around so they thought "lets do another while he's here".
Orator Plegg - Tue, 31 May 2016 23:21:54 EST ID:rBooKHbe No.54616 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That's a pretty sick connection.

I'm actually watching TNG "Half A Life" where this guy is trying to save his planet's star. And his attempt causes the star to go supernova. They totally gloss over the fact this guy created a super weapon capable of destroying an entire solar system in a matter of minutes.
M'Pella - Wed, 01 Jun 2016 09:16:49 EST ID:KN9lUNxQ No.54621 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dr. Lewis Zimmerman - Fri, 03 Jun 2016 20:57:10 EST ID:wiVZuv7W No.54643 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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TOS - Episode 8 - Miri

This is such a difficult episode to complete. My goodness.
Ensign Robin Lefler - Fri, 03 Jun 2016 21:00:06 EST ID:CtWKbnGU No.54644 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Just watched Conscience of the King on a rewatch of TOS with the wife. She is a TNG-generation kid, so TOS is mostly lost on her. I think she is starting to dig through the pacing and the tropes to find the meat underneath.
T'Pol - Sun, 05 Jun 2016 17:38:34 EST ID:CtWKbnGU No.54665 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Banging through some season 1 TOS while packing up to move back to the best coast.

Just finished Shore Leave, moved on to the Galileo 7.
Guinan - Sun, 05 Jun 2016 23:53:04 EST ID:sehZ/Igr No.54673 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That's bajorans for ya

Gul Dukat was right about everything
Sphere Builder - Mon, 06 Jun 2016 08:02:16 EST ID:CtWKbnGU No.54678 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Lwaxana Troi - Mon, 06 Jun 2016 12:44:43 EST ID:6KLprbx3 No.54682 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Yeah like, this far into the future with the Federation trying to win your planet over into joining don't you think you could just, you know, be all "boy oh boy if someone gave us some super advanced quasi-someshit-magic generator to solve our world's energy crisis that is somehow inexplicably happening when we have the technology to turn energy into matter and vice-versa and super-FTL space travel capabilities then they would be fucking Ace!"

instead it's like "no let's kill an entire alive world."

fucking Bajorans.
Lursa - Wed, 08 Jun 2016 20:34:30 EST ID:U7Q3I8Pm No.54724 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I just started watching TOS S2E12: The Deadly Years

I have no idea how people can seriously claim that Captain Kirk is the best captain after this episode. Kirk just totally embarrasses the hell out of himself by being obviously unfit for command but he tries to pretend like nothing is wrong and has to be taken to some sort of special hearing where he's relieved of command. Then he goes on to blame Spock for everything in a little temper tantrum of denial.

I just lost all respect for him in this episode. I don't care how this is resolved, the way he acted was just pathetic.
Jean-Luc Picard - Wed, 08 Jun 2016 23:17:31 EST ID:ZTRUT4In No.54725 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Minister Kuvak - Thu, 09 Jun 2016 11:10:01 EST ID:KN9lUNxQ No.54735 Ignore Report Quick Reply
old people brain problems make you an asshole
Captain Tel-Peh - Thu, 09 Jun 2016 15:35:35 EST ID:CtWKbnGU No.54738 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>TOS Season 1 Tomorrow is Yesterday

We are moving across the country next week, everything is packed except season one TOS on the laptop.

Tomorrow is Yesterday is a weird episode. It seems to feature the air force dude too much, and it feels like it was written by different authors at different times.

But I think this is what gives us the first canon slingshot-around-the-sun time travel shtick, which we all recognize from captain, thar be whales here!
Captain Tel-Peh - Thu, 09 Jun 2016 18:43:56 EST ID:CtWKbnGU No.54740 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Court Martial

Holy shit I want this piece of hanging art so fucking bad.

Who do you suppose made it? Where is it now?
Douglas Pabst - Thu, 09 Jun 2016 22:17:31 EST ID:rBooKHbe No.54745 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>feature the air force
You mean
>pad out the episode with stock footage
David Marcus - Thu, 09 Jun 2016 22:20:10 EST ID:5aCbAqEw No.54746 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>pad out the episode with stock footage

Ahh a classic trade secret used for decades to come.
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waxing these floors before we move back west again, watching TOS with the wife.

>Taste of Ermagerden

The episode where kirk gets people to stop playing at war by threatening to nuke their planet.

>This side of paradise

Spock in love part IIIII

>Devil in the Dark

One of the top five episodes ever produced.
Guinan - Sat, 11 Jun 2016 18:22:37 EST ID:fzblRYDb No.54766 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Devil in the Dark is my favorite TOS episode, I agree wholeheartedly with your assessment.
Raven Overcoming Orchid !Tz0ULG.7to - Mon, 13 Jun 2016 01:43:15 EST ID:PDoEVFqX No.54793 Ignore Report Quick Reply
God that ship is ugly
Guinan - Mon, 13 Jun 2016 03:14:56 EST ID:sehZ/Igr No.54797 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I imagine it would be pretty goddamn hard to destroy though
Kevin Mulkahey - Tue, 14 Jun 2016 10:13:25 EST ID:KN9lUNxQ No.54814 Ignore Report Quick Reply
in the DC comics between 2 and 3 there's a Horta on the 1701
Tiron - Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:53:30 EST ID:rBooKHbe No.54822 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Lorian - Thu, 16 Jun 2016 05:54:25 EST ID:/M7y7o2O No.54825 Ignore Report Quick Reply
About to watch the last two episodes of VOY to end my first run. I love that Neelix left right after that young girl not wanting him to read her a story. She's gonna be fucked up for life about that.
Lorian - Thu, 16 Jun 2016 14:52:15 EST ID:/M7y7o2O No.54829 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Well that was an um, interesting ending.
Vosk - Thu, 16 Jun 2016 21:11:58 EST ID:2tVihDX0 No.54831 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Gun Runner Sakonna - Fri, 17 Jun 2016 08:59:47 EST ID:KN9lUNxQ No.54833 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's not a great work of SciFi TV, but it's an appropriate ending for Voyager.
Composer Delvok - Fri, 17 Jun 2016 10:56:30 EST ID:/M7y7o2O No.54834 Ignore Report Quick Reply

So I finished VOY and started ENT. I'm 3 episodes deep and so far ENT seems like the country music station of the star trek universe.
James T Kirk - Fri, 17 Jun 2016 15:30:19 EST ID:J7yECQUK No.54840 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Fairly accurate tbh
it's got its moments though
Captain Edward Jellico - Sat, 18 Jun 2016 07:05:06 EST ID:/M7y7o2O No.54856 Ignore Report Quick Reply

this fucking theme song though

jesus christ I thought voyagers was bad
Captain Edward Jellico - Sat, 18 Jun 2016 07:10:19 EST ID:/M7y7o2O No.54858 Ignore Report Quick Reply

also is it just me or does everyone but phlox suck ass?
Guinan - Sat, 18 Jun 2016 07:24:06 EST ID:sehZ/Igr No.54860 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Fuckin lol

I think ENT suffers from not having a 'philosopher' character, really... see my other drunkedn shitpost on the subject, you shitlords. >>54859

aw yeah tahts the post
Private E Hamboyan - Sun, 19 Jun 2016 17:25:06 EST ID:NhVFjF3f No.54889 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>I think ENT suffers from not having a 'philosopher' character,

IMO an Asian on the bridge is plenty to deal with
Robert Wesley - Thu, 23 Jun 2016 06:25:37 EST ID:2CjFaDB+ No.54941 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There not being a philosopher character is just a symptom of ENT's crappy writing. This is a show that thought the best part of Seven of Nine was her suit, and then put it on the most un-Vulcan looking actress they could find.

And Hoshi might be written as a scaredy cat incompetent, but Archer is written as a raging incompetent who often makes the bad choice just for the hell of it. Phlox basically commits genocide, because "muh natural course of things". And his natural remedies are supposed to be a quaint reflection of earlier crews using stuff available in their environment, as seen through low-tech goggles, but instead it becomes a joke, with him having a leech or bat for EVERYTHING.

ENT just didn't really have any strong characters, let alone characters who fill specific roles like "philosopher". When you ask me to describe the character of other Star Trek characters, I can give a reasonable answer. With ENT, I'm going to be listing their roles, superficial traits, and negative traits for the best-developed ones.
Ulis - Thu, 23 Jun 2016 13:24:20 EST ID:yUEnpn4n No.54944 Ignore Report Quick Reply
While your criticisms are pretty valid, I don't think you need "types" as much as a dynamic that creates the right amount of friction and conflict while feeling like it's a group that still works together. ENT could have done better at that.

Also Chipotle was less relevant than Phlox. Phlox didn't have much to say but Chipotle's job was just to be ignored by Insaneway when dispensing advice. I admit he created conflict but the fact he was never listened to breaks that second part about working together. ENT was too far the other way. They feel like a cohesive team but because they have not one but TWO so and so's on bridge (Mayweather/Hoshi).
Donik - Thu, 23 Jun 2016 19:37:37 EST ID:rBooKHbe No.54948 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I think whatever this Trek is, it has to have that classic formula for the first season at least..if not try to replicate it in most (but not all) seasons of the show. The nerd who doesn't quite get it. The Captain who always has the right answer. The great conversation...everyone's trying to find the philosopher but that's the thing about Trek...every character is a philosopher.
Kira Meru - Fri, 24 Jun 2016 18:09:24 EST ID:2CjFaDB+ No.54959 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The thing is, DS9 already did it. They did the arc on Earth, where an admiral wants to set up a militaristic government, complete with paranoid "security" measures and false flag attacks. They dealt with having a terrorist on the main cast, and the morality of her terrorist attacks. They dealt with religious extremists and "ends hallow the means" attitudes. And they did it all before 9/11.

People were project that the Suliban were the Taliban, but that's just retarded. They had that OK-ish Space Arab episode, and that enormous pile of crap that was Suliban Guantanamo Bay. But they only really did 9/11 stuff with the Xindi and their attack on Earth.

And come to think of it, DS9 did that, too. And the Breen attack on Earth had a lot more oomph than the Xindi one. Because the Breen attack carried the same meaning as 9/11: We can hit you where you thought you were safe. In ENT, it just didn't carry that weight. The entire point was the we were the newest, weakest guys, and everyone who wanted to, could basically fuck us over. Plus, they went through this backwards writing process where the Xindi had to attack Earth for their trauma storylines with Trip, and they just pulled a reason out of their asses.

You don't need types, but you do need developed characters, and those characters will naturally fulfill those roles.

As for Chakoters, I'd say Seven and the Doc fulfilled the philosopher role more than he did. The character never really got a chance, which was kind of a problem with VOY. They had their clear favorites, and the rest just got the cold shoulder. And they tried to jam Janeway into everything, so the First Officer had nothing to do. Because she took over his job. One of VOY's big flaws is that the plot catered to Janeway. She's always a central character. While TNG and DS9 have episodes where the captain barely shows up, and the other characters are allowed their time in the limelight. Even when they send the Doc to the Alpha Quadrant they have to have their little Janeway/Seven moment.
Guinan - Fri, 24 Jun 2016 23:29:37 EST ID:sehZ/Igr No.54969 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You're dead on correct about Voyager, but if you watch the first 2-3 seasons, there are episodes where Chipotle clearly had a more philosophical role and knew about the mythologies and beliefs of other cultures. It almost made the fact that he was a Native-everyman whose tribe/culture wasn't nailed down for several seasons more acceptable. Almost.
Beverly Crusher - Mon, 27 Jun 2016 07:36:48 EST ID:2CjFaDB+ No.54994 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The problem with Chacuntay "knowing" a lot of that sort of stuff is that he really doesn't know all that much, and generally just goes off whatever indian hunch bubbles up in his native noggin'.

The entire indian angle is halfassed. They clearly didn't know what to do with it. It's like someone said at the last minute "let's do an indian character" because they remembered TNG's injuns in space. Then they hired this Chief Firewater character to "advise" them by filling their heads with bullshit that any casual viewer today can identify, which is frankly embarrassing, and never figured they need to do more with the character.

It sucks, because on paper the Voyager cast sounds extremely interesting. Maquis intermingling, lots of varied character motivations, everything. But it just falls apart on the writing. It's like they did the exact wrong thing with half the characters they had.
Lt. Cmdr. Jack Crusher - Mon, 27 Jun 2016 08:47:43 EST ID:KN9lUNxQ No.54995 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think Chutney would have been better if they didn't have Big Chief Forktongue Whitey as their advisor and had somebody who actually knew shit instead.
Temporal Agent Daniels - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 16:51:32 EST ID:PeKnhBXD No.55024 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Humble Bundle has a new set (or is it a rerun?) of Star Trek comics: https://www.humblebundle.com/books/star-trek-comics-bundle

Also, why won't Rascals bump anymore? I was saving a picture for it, but alas, I guess I'll just post it here.:(
Benny Russell - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 18:00:26 EST ID:VdqwWHX8 No.55025 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Voyager being the shits makes alot of sense when you learn that it was always going to be Knock-off TNG. Hell, if you look at the show numbers, Voyager starts at 9, rather then 1. Why? Because its the 9th season of TNG.
Odo - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 18:25:15 EST ID:/M7y7o2O No.55026 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>9th season of TNG

Did I miss a whole season of TNG?
Amanda Grayson - Wed, 29 Jun 2016 21:45:53 EST ID:3AVA28Bj No.55030 Ignore Report Quick Reply
rascals thread hit the post limit (500) and is dying slowly. each new thread throws it further into oblivion.

RIP, Rascals Thread, you will be missed.
Guinan - Thu, 30 Jun 2016 06:53:24 EST ID:sehZ/Igr No.55035 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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There was a gap of a year where it was just DS9, after TNG had ended, but before VOY began...

Google tells me TNG ended May 23, 1994 and Voyager began January 16, 1995 so it was actually a few months shy of a year.

I agree with you though, it did seem like it was a bigger gap than that in my memory of when I was living in those times.
Michael Jonas - Thu, 30 Jun 2016 07:53:57 EST ID:/M7y7o2O No.55037 Ignore Report Quick Reply

but there are only 7 seasons of TNG, where was 8?
Kono - Thu, 30 Jun 2016 08:39:28 EST ID:rBooKHbe No.55038 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's really just a gap of about 3 months because TNG season 8 would have started in September.
Guinan - Thu, 30 Jun 2016 11:16:39 EST ID:sehZ/Igr No.55040 Ignore Report Quick Reply
the gap year, see here >>55035
Benny Russell - Thu, 30 Jun 2016 11:18:14 EST ID:WBfv0lXc No.55041 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Everyone here is underageb& apparently.

They used Voyager to "launch a new station" called UPN or something.

TNG was on NBC or whatever, so was DS9. If you wanted to keep watching Star Trak you had to start watching a totally shit-tier cable channel.

Sarina Douglas - Thu, 30 Jun 2016 12:46:53 EST ID:KN9lUNxQ No.55042 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>TNG was on NBC or whatever, so was DS9.
they were on Your Local Affiliate, it was a syndication deal independent of the big 3 networks
Benny Russell - Thu, 30 Jun 2016 14:57:22 EST ID:WBfv0lXc No.55043 Ignore Report Quick Reply


Same deal though, they tried to use Voyager to launch the new station, but it didn't really work.
C-Higgy !lfsExjBfzE - Thu, 30 Jun 2016 16:11:53 EST ID:TXtpA/+T No.55044 Report Quick Reply
I mean there's a difference between being in first run syndication like TNG and DS9 and on primetime television with TOS on NBC and Voyager/Enterprise on UPN. I don't think it was the best network to have had Star Trek as tbey could have benefitted more being on cable as Stargate had.
Guinan - Thu, 30 Jun 2016 20:02:01 EST ID:sehZ/Igr No.55045 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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You know, I had kind of forgotten they used Voyager as the flagship for UPN.. it really wasn't a good channel. Makes me worry a bit that they're effectively doing the same thing for their Netflix knockoff. I'd also wager that once CBS all-access is launched, they won't allow Netflix to renew any of the Star Trek series, and will try and pull trekkies behind their own CBS brand paywall.

I worry about this because in a lot of ways Voyager is what killed my love of Trek.
They were lazy in the first few seasons, just expecting people to watch because it was Star Trek, a lot of elements of it seemed sloppy and poorly planned, they pussed out on having any sort of continuity between episodes, on having conflict between the Maquis and Starfleet crew, and they basically just rehashed tropes that they'd been using since the Kirk days until they finally found their footing in being ridiculous Captain Proton/Twilight Zone style shit, focusing on the Doctor, and adding Seven of Tits. It had its moments and I now appreciate more than it was on the air, but I literally could not be bothered to give a fuck about it towards the end of its run. They just made Star Trek too cheesy with too little philosophical substance. By the time ENT came along, I think I watched most of the premier and then didn't watch it again for more than 10 seconds until it had been off the air for almost a decade, because Voyager had devalued the franchise so much in my eyes.

If they do a good job with this new show, it will revitalize Star Trek, but if they do anything less, it will pretty much relegate 'Trek to the dusty pages of history like Jules Verne stories and Flash Gordon shit. I think if they fail, Star Trek will never come back again. I think it's make or break.
Penk - Thu, 30 Jun 2016 21:30:27 EST ID:BaUJzlAy No.55047 Ignore Report Quick Reply
They also had this cool sci-fi show they'd air on the same nights as Voyager called Seven Days. It was about a government program with a time machine that could travel back only one week. So every time there was some catastrophe, they would send this guy back in time a week to stop it.

Being on a network killed Voyager's ability to make use of its cool premise. Execs cared more about having a stable week to week show than executing the show in the best way possible for what it wanted to be (a TNG/DS9 hybrid).

I do think that streaming is the 21st century version of syndication, so the new show should hopefully be able to recapture that TNG/DS9 essence.

In my market TNG and DS9 were on different channels actually.
Sphere Builder - Fri, 01 Jul 2016 01:09:53 EST ID:siczhJsP No.55048 Ignore Report Quick Reply
watching ep 5 right now.
I watched a new hope for the first time recently and I thought it was kinda campy and gay but I'm gonna watch this one and give it an other shot.
Guinan - Fri, 01 Jul 2016 04:28:18 EST ID:sehZ/Igr No.55051 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>being so high you think the Star Trek board is the Star Wars board

Empire strikes back is the shit.. just don't watch 7, the prequels are actually better even with the jamaican house nigga frogman
Netjester - Fri, 01 Jul 2016 08:32:20 EST ID:cW3Jv235 No.55052 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If you felt ANH was campy and gay, you should look into the prequels, or the Force Awakens, or Jar Jar Trek. They might be more up your alley.
DaiMon Solok - Fri, 01 Jul 2016 08:37:34 EST ID:16Jdx7Eh No.55054 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>They were lazy in the first few seasons

They weren't lazy. They were burned out. The same group of writers and producers had been cranking out Trek tv shows for a decade. It wasn't until 3 or 4 seasons in and some of those people started ditching and new blood came in that things improved a bit. They were all working under Rick Berman the entire time, who liked to micromanage the creativity and hated taking risks. Garrett Wang (Harry Kim) also said in an interview that Berman never visited the sets during shooting. Like he hid in his office for seven years. All of this resulted in a show whose tone was as stiff and uncomfortable as the people making it.
Arne Darvin - Fri, 01 Jul 2016 11:59:37 EST ID:WBfv0lXc No.55056 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>Rick Berman

This should be stylized "Rick Fucking Berman", and typically followed with "Fuck you!!!!!"
Admiral William J Ross - Fri, 01 Jul 2016 16:26:08 EST ID:PeKnhBXD No.55058 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>"What has the European Convention on Human Rights ever done for us?"
Corporal Chang - Sat, 02 Jul 2016 15:02:04 EST ID:lBRkOczw No.55061 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm on the 6th season of TNG right now, I love how alien everything is in the later seasons (same goes for DS9). I was watching one where the crew was chasing down Romulan terrorists, Data negotiated with a Klingon warship captain to use his computer to hack the Romulan computer network...yeah.
Janice Rand - Sat, 02 Jul 2016 16:39:50 EST ID:WBfv0lXc No.55062 Ignore Report Quick Reply

in early TNG technology is unpredictable and often dangerous.

in late TNG most characters are masters of technology
Arne Darvin - Wed, 06 Jul 2016 16:18:20 EST ID:PeKnhBXD No.55105 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Now also available... magazines? I don't even know what these are: https://www.humblebundle.com/books/star-trek-magazine-bundle
Jimmy - Wed, 06 Jul 2016 20:49:24 EST ID:OO16I6mF No.55108 Ignore Report Quick Reply
why did TOS do away with McCoy's line, "DAMNIT I'M A DOCTOR NOT A _____" so soon?
Nurse Jabara - Mon, 25 Jul 2016 15:19:54 EST ID:5aCbAqEw No.55338 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Still on the star date order run. But the list I was using is all kinds of fucked up on the Voy order. Doesn't matter though as the cross overs stopped being interesting and there is no plot similarities like with the maqee/cardasian arc between DS9 and TNG. Now it's just taking the bit character every now and then and slapping them in a voy ep or two. Some times they use actors from the two series on each other. Like Eisenburg as a Kazon or the doctor as his creator interviewing Bashir.
Jack Crusher - Sat, 30 Jul 2016 16:16:59 EST ID:k5sRUJT7 No.55394 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm pretty sure that it was an old explaination from one of the early TNG books. Something about a degenerative disease that caused them to grow ridges.
DaiMon Bractor - Tue, 16 Aug 2016 21:33:20 EST ID:N+RlYH+s No.55729 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>TOS Season 3 Episode 1

>Spock's Brain

iirc star trek was cancelled and brought back, meaning this episode is the premiere of the final season.

This episode gets a lot of hate but it is pretty great actually.

also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om8Mcj_ZWVc
Guinan - Wed, 17 Aug 2016 01:53:06 EST ID:sehZ/Igr No.55730 Ignore Report Quick Reply
holy shit you just blew my goddamn mind
Kathryn Janeway - Wed, 17 Aug 2016 21:22:41 EST ID:+5hgZe3l No.55738 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Well, yes and no. This was a reference drop, but not to what you think. The NX-01 Enterprise was already a part of the lore of Star Trek as early as early-TNG, and was referenced as such in various technical manuals you could buy. At that point though it was a Daedalus class starship, which they obviously retconned to make ENT the show. They may have been thinking about ENT at that point, but their being 6 Enterprises by then was already a point of canon.
Lon Suder - Thu, 18 Aug 2016 17:01:59 EST ID:N+RlYH+s No.55771 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>TOS Season 3 Episode 4

So basically these kids hang out with an interdimensional child molester?

>take the ship, then you can take turns sitting on my lap, children!
Grilka - Thu, 18 Aug 2016 22:28:10 EST ID:+5hgZe3l No.55772 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Listen to McCoy's voice as he says this line, you can almost hear Kelley thinking,
"Are these morons really having me say this? My career is over..."
Major J Hayes - Thu, 25 Aug 2016 23:04:35 EST ID:N+RlYH+s No.55927 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Made it through TAS again and moved onto the movies.

TMP last night. I gotta say that the overture made me weep (really) but the rest of the movie is just DZZZZZUAAAAAAAAAAAAAA sounds and shots of the Refit Enterprise.

Watching Khan now. Haven't had a proper viewing since Nimoy died.

I am probably going to cry a lot. I will keep you posted.
Weyoun 6 - Fri, 26 Aug 2016 01:52:48 EST ID:aQZi/3lR No.55932 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Randomly rewatching DS9 episodes.. First one I pick is the two-parter where the Dominion shitstomps the cardies and the romulans.

Forgot how much I love Enabran Tain. Cardassian so suave and cunning he's got an office on a Romulan warbird. Besides Data, Picard and Spock DS9 had the best characters.
Tora Ziyal - Fri, 26 Aug 2016 04:52:27 EST ID:siczhJsP No.55933 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I just lost my best friend. He introduced me to Star Trek.
I'm about to torture myself with TWOK just for this one scene (pic related)
Major J Hayes - Fri, 26 Aug 2016 10:45:51 EST ID:N+RlYH+s No.55935 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I am but one anonymous stranger but I love you. RIP your friend.
Tora Ziyal - Fri, 26 Aug 2016 14:19:50 EST ID:siczhJsP No.55936 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Thank you :')
Thrax - Fri, 26 Aug 2016 21:17:00 EST ID:on68BUEM No.55939 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The last time I watched The Wrath of Khan, Ricardo Montalban died two weeks later.
Youngblood - Fri, 26 Aug 2016 23:21:21 EST ID:N+RlYH+s No.55941 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Don't watch Final Frontier or RIP Shatner 2 weeks later.
Lt. Maxwell Burke - Sat, 27 Aug 2016 02:58:52 EST ID:QrYI9DZT No.55943 Ignore Report Quick Reply

The Fool !oj3475yHBQ - Sat, 27 Aug 2016 18:26:27 EST ID:0Liu5VpE No.55951 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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S6: E:23 "Fury"
Kes returns to Voyager. Aged, angry, and more powerful than ever, she tears through the ship and travels back in time to try and alter her history.
General K'Trelan - Sat, 27 Aug 2016 19:00:36 EST ID:/M7y7o2O No.55952 Ignore Report Quick Reply
that was a terrible episode
The Fool !oj3475yHBQ - Sat, 27 Aug 2016 19:17:53 EST ID:0Liu5VpE No.55953 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Lol it's hilarious if you replace past Kes with current Kes. Like just imagining this Obese horridly naked woman tearing through the ship in a desperate attempt to reverse her current state. It's like some freaky self-fulfilling prophecy.
General K'Trelan - Sat, 27 Aug 2016 19:34:44 EST ID:/M7y7o2O No.55954 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lol alright you got me, also who the fuck has the microphone in the back in that pic?
Gralik Durr - Sat, 27 Aug 2016 19:36:26 EST ID:+5hgZe3l No.55955 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Uhhh you mean Chekov?
Rebi - Sat, 27 Aug 2016 20:04:13 EST ID:siczhJsP No.55956 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Watching Into Darkness
This time around it doesn't seem quite as bad if you take it for what it is.
It looks beautiful if you ignore all the fuckin lens flares.
Cumberbatch was pretty damn good, even though he wasn't all that much like the original Khan. Peter Weller is always good. And the JJ Bridge Crew overall is pretty great.
Christine Chapel - Sat, 27 Aug 2016 20:33:07 EST ID:/M7y7o2O No.55957 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah it must be. I've seen all of TNG/DS9/VOY/ENT but I'm only on S1E25 of TOS on my first run of it ever so according to wikipedia Checkov doesn't appear until S2E1
Natima Lang - Sun, 28 Aug 2016 02:08:11 EST ID:aQZi/3lR No.55959 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Yeah that movie isn't nearly as bad as most people on the internet say it is. I definitely liked it better than Beyond
Captain Goroth - Sun, 28 Aug 2016 07:09:37 EST ID:+5hgZe3l No.55960 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You know thinking about it the Pakleds pretty much have it all figured out. Their philosophy is quite deep if you think about it. I mean really, spays is big. And really, what do we all need? Things. What kind of things? Things to make us go.
Blaze and think about it man. We are smart, we are strong.
Christine Chapel - Sun, 28 Aug 2016 08:01:26 EST ID:/M7y7o2O No.55962 Ignore Report Quick Reply
stoned as fuck right now and yeah that makes a lot of sense to me
Kimara Cretak - Sun, 28 Aug 2016 10:31:41 EST ID:0EObkRJk No.55963 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I guess if the Pakleds can get Warp Drive it's really no surprise the Klingons did.
Captain Goroth - Sun, 28 Aug 2016 18:23:38 EST ID:+5hgZe3l No.55973 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Makes you wonder how dumb are we to have to wait for some hippie burnout drunk asshole from Montana to figure it out for us.
Gul Darhe'el - Sun, 28 Aug 2016 18:51:26 EST ID:CgTwnBfS No.55974 Ignore Report Quick Reply
In the Trekverse humanity is a baby race but one of the smartest, or at least the best at getting shit done when it needs to or wants to. Starfleet engineers are the envy of the alpha, beta and gamma quadrants. Other races had warp for thousands of years but it was humanity who brought them the first warp 8 engine.

The Pakleds are cunning though. That's not an alternative interpretation or anything it's fact, the entire plot they turn up for is driven by them being actually pretty smart in their own way. Enough to get by. They're not super ambitious they just live their lives. Borg will never assimilate them and no one else will ever see them as having anything of worth to take, they'd make awful slaves, too stupid to follow complex tasks, but smart enough to deliberately fuck up simple ones. The absolute best thing another race can do is basically avoid them and leave them to their shit.

They don't have a deep philosophy though. Like everything else about them it's simple, lets not kid ourselves, but it's smarter than than it seems at a glance and it's suitable for their purposes.

Anyway my point is that the Pakled have probably been drifting through space for ages. Maybe they've seen the rise and fall of all other intelligent life a few times, but they probably didn't notice. Which is pretty smart because if anyone knew anything that'd be trouble for them.

But humans. Humans are smart in a driven adaptable way, humans are like a child prodigy. Sure he's about 6 but he can already do maths and play the piano better than almost every adult you've met. And I guess that makes Q our overly pushy parents, except instead of endless study and tuition when they feel we can do more they just sic the borg on us and force us to do that adapting and making do thing again. Probably beats 3 hours of maths a night tbh.
Vice Admiral Leyton - Sun, 28 Aug 2016 20:27:42 EST ID:+5hgZe3l No.55975 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I agree, humans are god tier, Pakleds are dumb. All those posts you carefully deconstructed were jokes.
Roy Ritterhouse - Mon, 29 Aug 2016 00:44:28 EST ID:rdjcGSJW No.55979 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Just watched Voyage Home with wife, did S4S and WoK the past two nights.

People who talk shit on Voyage Home are really missing out.

Thomas Riker - Mon, 29 Aug 2016 21:22:57 EST ID:+5hgZe3l No.55990 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I mean really, pretty much any sort of ridiculous plot development would be justified just for this one line.
Chakotay - Tue, 30 Aug 2016 09:37:14 EST ID:rdjcGSJW No.55996 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>ST 6: UC

I think Chang is half human.

Probably the child of a war bride from an early sortie against the Federation.
Harry Kim - Tue, 30 Aug 2016 11:15:08 EST ID:qbvuHKHy No.55997 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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In space no one can hear your rape whistle
Fer'at - Tue, 30 Aug 2016 17:13:51 EST ID:siczhJsP No.55998 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>TNG Best of Both Worlds

They play TNG on BBC America all the time, and I'll catch like an episode or two almost every day, but it seems I always tune in on the worst episodes, like yesterday it was Sub Rosa (*vomits*) but today I just tuned in to catch the beginning of part one and part 2 after.
Buckle up fuckers.
Fer'at - Tue, 30 Aug 2016 18:50:45 EST ID:siczhJsP No.55999 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Well fuck me right in the ass. I figured they would put part 2 right after 1 but I didn't look at the guide.
They fucking put National Lampoon's European Vacation on right after part one. God damn it. Fuck you Clark Griswald.
Admiral Cartwright - Tue, 30 Aug 2016 21:08:59 EST ID:rdjcGSJW No.56000 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Star Trek 7 The Generations

1994. Damn. TNG just ended 6 months ago. DS9 is going. Undiscovered Country came out 2 years ago. 1994.

Tim Russ has a walk on part in the intro. Pretty sweet.

Also pic related popped up in my image search. From the crash of the D. cannot escape the rascals thread
Worf - Wed, 31 Aug 2016 07:15:59 EST ID:qbvuHKHy No.56001 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Is that Worf on the right?

I bet he's like, fuck this shit I'm taking all the bitches. Let Geordi "tryhard" LaForge juggle those weaklings.
Chakotay - Wed, 31 Aug 2016 08:58:25 EST ID:KN9lUNxQ No.56002 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>National Lampoon's European Vacation
at least TNG has a British guy in it
Lt. Cmdr. Argyle - Thu, 01 Sep 2016 12:43:52 EST ID:IOEb+HD2 No.56004 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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> Voyager S6E6 Riddles

I liked retarded Tuvok, he seemed like a pretty cool guy and made some killer deserts.
Kai Opaka - Thu, 01 Sep 2016 13:06:41 EST ID:0WxfBr9c No.56005 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Something about dates, right?
Weyoun 5 - Thu, 01 Sep 2016 14:52:00 EST ID:0EObkRJk No.56006 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Bumpan, watched about half of the episode of DS9 episode 4.

This show really was woke as fuck. The episode about Quark's workers unionizing... weird to think Quark is more of a pushover than Wal-Mart. and the episode where Worf allegedly blows up them civilians, real talk in our war torn future.

Also it's great how meta Worf is in season 4. Every 2 episode he gives some rant about how much shittier DS9 is than the Enterprise D and the rest of the crew are all like "welcome to the frontier bitch", and every time it feels like DS9 is explaining to TNG about it's thematic differences, and over time Star Trek fans would get used to these different inflections. I dunno, I'm high, but this shit got layers.
Weyoun 5 - Thu, 01 Sep 2016 14:52:41 EST ID:0EObkRJk No.56007 Ignore Report Quick Reply

*half of ds9 season 4, nbdp
Chairman Koval - Thu, 01 Sep 2016 18:16:29 EST ID:CgTwnBfS No.56009 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Quark is a good guy under the ferengi culture.

Also ferengi economics are dumb as shit, even based on the flawed premise of money as the end and not a means.
Vedek Bareil - Thu, 01 Sep 2016 20:17:28 EST ID:s/LcQ7tT No.56010 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Wolf in the Fold. I don't remember how this ends, bit knowing a few Scotsmen, I'm 100% sure Scotty did it.
Vekma - Thu, 01 Sep 2016 22:04:18 EST ID:rdjcGSJW No.56011 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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First Contact

this killed the borg and made way for janeway to make them into henchmen of the space queen.

pic related: who did they peel that skin off of? ensign who?
Grand Nagus Gint - Fri, 02 Sep 2016 01:28:05 EST ID:+5hgZe3l No.56018 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think it was just synthetically generated by Borg technology. Would be WAY creepier if they were turning him into some kind of Frankendata cobbled together from gibs left over from the crew...
Guinan - Fri, 02 Sep 2016 02:01:52 EST ID:sehZ/Igr No.56021 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>trying to shy away from the disturbing truth
It was probably ensign prettyface gayboy
Ulani Belor - Fri, 02 Sep 2016 12:38:32 EST ID:0EObkRJk No.56027 Ignore Report Quick Reply

It sucks because if you go back and watch the eps of VOY from before First Contact where the borg show up... they do them fine. They still feel like the late TNG borg. It's not until the Queen got ramrodded into canon that it went full retard on that front.
Colonel Lovok - Fri, 02 Sep 2016 23:57:09 EST ID:+5hgZe3l No.56029 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Whenever I see the Borg Queen I'm always coming up with little head-canons for why she is acting the way she does. Like, even though she appears to be an individual we are really just seeing the tip of an ice-berg, a single neuron of the prefontal lobe that might for a moment be able to think of itself as the whole brain. Still it definitely could've been dramatized better. I think the main reason it's upsetting is because post FC borg and pre FC borg are really different species. The most defining thing about the Borg when we first meet them are their lack of personality, they totally subvert the whole concept of Star Trek by being the exact opposite of the Fed not just ethically but in the sense that their most defining characteristic is their lack of character compared to the vibrancy of the Fed. It works on a philosophically deep level.
Post FC/VOY they are just emo cyborgs who I want to fuck.
Kasidy Yates-Sisko - Sat, 03 Sep 2016 00:25:44 EST ID:5aCbAqEw No.56030 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I see the queen as an emergent property of the locutus factor. The Borg probably found it useful to localize commands with the queens after having locutus wipe up at wolf 359. In one Voy ep the queen mentions the cranial capacity of Humans. Perhaps they want Humans for a new queen species. It's not individuality that is being injected to the borg, rather the suppression is lifted in one who can direct the others.
Corporal R Ryan - Sat, 03 Sep 2016 10:17:08 EST ID:rdjcGSJW No.56032 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I see the queen as shit-tier writing from hacks who can't into the idea of a true faceless collective.

it is like they had to remake the borg as a recognizable enemy, one with a clear leader to defeat.

Kasidy Yates-Sisko - Sat, 03 Sep 2016 12:22:55 EST ID:5aCbAqEw No.56033 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>implying there wasn't always a queen.

Every species seems supremely different until star fleet studies them more. Or you know we could keep this going until none of us likes trek any more.

Think about it for one second. The Borg all act as if they are being controlled like an RTS. Nothing happens unless the a threat is detected or it's all business as usual. Even then the queen is not the end all leader of the collective. There were at least three observed and they died. A species was assimilated and converted into command and control nodes each leading a portion of Borg resources but still collectively working towards the same goal.

I remember reading soem where that the Borg are the end result of a sentient AI rebelling and taking control of a species in the delta quad, turning them into cyborgs and eventually becoming the drones we see in TNG. So really the queens are just ways to clear the load on the central AI or AIs that control the borg collective.

voy still had shit writing though. You just hate it cuz it's too mainstreem to hate JJ trek now.
Kai Opaka - Sat, 03 Sep 2016 22:18:25 EST ID:rdjcGSJW No.56035 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Q is an omnipotent being.

Q introduces the borg as a leaderless collective.

I trust Q.
Christopher Brynner - Sun, 04 Sep 2016 00:26:45 EST ID:qDl/CYWx No.56037 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>I trust Q
Natasha Yar - Sun, 04 Sep 2016 01:33:27 EST ID:+5hgZe3l No.56038 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Actually according to the non-canon books the Borg started with humans from the post-TNG era sent into the distant past on a wacky mission, that's why their name is part of the human word for 'cyborg.'
I do trust Q, at least I trust his intentions. Obviously you should never trust him to not fuck around with you when he says he won't, but I never got why Picard was always so butthurt by him. Everything he does demonstrates that he genuinely cares about the evolution of humanity and is trying to guide it forward, although obviously with the same kind of lack of care about individual's sense of inconvenience as you would expect someone who has the same relationship to us as we have to ants would act.
Lauren - Sun, 04 Sep 2016 21:59:41 EST ID:rdjcGSJW No.56045 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>TNG When the Bough Breaks

Wesley teaches kids about passive resistance.

First season TNG is something special.
Guinan - Mon, 05 Sep 2016 01:03:42 EST ID:sehZ/Igr No.56046 Ignore Report Quick Reply
With how shitty that first season was, it's a wonder they got any more. Thank Q they did, TNG season 3 til the end of the 90s was the golden age of trek
EMH MARK 2 - Mon, 05 Sep 2016 01:56:05 EST ID:CW2X9dl5 No.56047 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Audiences have spent the last 20 years saturated with Trek content, especially thanks to the internet. In 1987 there was fuck-all*. It's a testament to fan's hunger for something, ANYTHING new with Trek in the title (and Roddenberry's stamp in the credits helped) was gobbled up and people kept watching week after week despite how shitty it was.

  • TOS repeats, 4 TOS movies that you either had to rent or catch on tv unless you were a nut and had shelled out $100+ dollars for your own VHS copy of ones of the movies, and the Penguin books which were all TOS stories.
Lauren - Mon, 05 Sep 2016 11:10:18 EST ID:rdjcGSJW No.56049 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I grew up in a house with 30+ vhs tapes containing almost all of TOS and the movies.

My mom had hundreds (literally) of Trek novels in her closet downstairs. I think she collected them all. She even wrote two, but both were turned down by the publisher. Just saying I was raised by a wizard-tier trekkie.

Your assessment of 1987 is correct. Anything Star Trek was welcomed and wanted.

I think we wanted to dream. What is missing from the nutrek is the dream. Despite the badness of TNG season 1, it dreams.
Dr. Telek R'Mor - Wed, 07 Sep 2016 23:18:10 EST ID:rdjcGSJW No.56085 Ignore Report Quick Reply
busted into VOY again.
fucking neelix had his lungs stolen.
fucking kes gave neelix a lungs.
wtf. they never mention this again.
Guinan - Thu, 08 Sep 2016 04:09:13 EST ID:sehZ/Igr No.56086 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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V'ger was supposed to have continuity but they bitched out thanks to producer interference >>56085
Chairman Koval - Thu, 08 Sep 2016 05:57:19 EST ID:5aCbAqEw No.56093 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>that episode of voy with the rock
I.G. Keval - Fri, 09 Sep 2016 23:26:37 EST ID:J3LWDK5j No.56156 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Just about done with V on my quest to watch all six TOS movies.

While it is obviously the worst of the six it still has a few moments/decent things.

>Bones being Bones
>Bone's father's death scene
>"I don't want my pain taken away! I need my pain!"
>"What does god need with a star ship?"
>Expanding on Vulcan canon with Vulcans that choose emotions over logic
>Cat lady with 3 tits

Yes it is a terrible mess and directed poorly but at least it tries to explore some interesting concepts like religion, reality, and man's pain.

I guess all I'm saying is people shouldn't consider it the worst Star Trek movie when Generations, Insurrection, and Nemesis exist.
T'Pau - Sat, 10 Sep 2016 09:24:55 EST ID:0EObkRJk No.56164 Ignore Report Quick Reply
...Is that Tasha? I need source for reasons of scientific inquiry.
Michael Jonas - Sat, 10 Sep 2016 21:57:42 EST ID:rdjcGSJW No.56178 Ignore Report Quick Reply
watched Star Trek 09 last night.

super mixed feelings about it. not looking forward to watching ID.
Guinan - Sun, 11 Sep 2016 13:55:30 EST ID:n08X0aXU No.56185 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Not being in a rape gang roving through the giant subterranean pyramid hunting pussy.. any kind of pussy, so long as it's not consenting

Why even live?
Kai Winn - Mon, 12 Sep 2016 23:05:27 EST ID:414MU9f7 No.56244 Ignore Report Quick Reply

prepare for a dumb star trek film
Guinan - Mon, 12 Sep 2016 23:13:07 EST ID:mKla+NSQ No.56247 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Watch it in a language you don't speak. We watched 20 minutes of it in Korean on the cytube once and it made it better. You can pretend that there's a plot.
Rekelen - Tue, 13 Sep 2016 03:29:14 EST ID:/M7y7o2O No.56249 Ignore Report Quick Reply
About to watch S2E6 of TOS.

There are some stupid fucking lines, and ridiculous shit in TOS man. A couple episodes back they killed the fucking greek god apollo.

wtf kirk
Karr - Thu, 15 Sep 2016 22:03:55 EST ID:rdjcGSJW No.56305 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Voyager Season 2 Episode: Threshold

No comment.
Hikaru Sulu - Thu, 15 Sep 2016 22:47:00 EST ID:414MU9f7 No.56308 Ignore Report Quick Reply

why would you keep falling into this trap
[REDACTED] - Fri, 16 Sep 2016 01:41:05 EST ID:6vGj96oy No.56311 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Weasley so got touched by the Traveller, big time.
Legate Porania - Sat, 17 Sep 2016 05:10:35 EST ID:/M7y7o2O No.56320 Ignore Report Quick Reply

the bad guy is literally a little kitty cat that they filmed
Legate Porania - Sat, 17 Sep 2016 05:12:11 EST ID:/M7y7o2O No.56321 Ignore Report Quick Reply
also this cat is pissed off, which means they had to fuck with this cat until it was pissed then film that shit

Albert Macklin - Sat, 17 Sep 2016 23:02:47 EST ID:J3LWDK5j No.56333 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Watching ENT Shockwave part 2 (Season 2 Ep 1)

It was a pleasant surprise to see an actually engaging episode in part one. I'm guessing that the quality drops after this episode, correct?
Vedek Bareil - Sun, 18 Sep 2016 17:37:24 EST ID:+5hgZe3l No.56342 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Administrator Breen more likely.
Kirayoshi O'Brien - Sun, 18 Sep 2016 18:16:11 EST ID:bCORpcrD No.56343 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Zefram Cochrane - Mon, 26 Sep 2016 18:05:06 EST ID:w9EpZUOy No.56458 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Watching fistful of datas
Naomi Wildman - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 07:25:43 EST ID:5aCbAqEw No.56463 Ignore Report Quick Reply
the one episode where they took advantage of Spiners real talent.
Rom - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 16:18:52 EST ID:siczhJsP No.56465 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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that's a good one
Cmdr. Williams - Tue, 27 Sep 2016 22:46:23 EST ID:bCORpcrD No.56467 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Into Darkness

God damn it this movie is so bad.

I tweeted Bob Orci about it a few months ago and he tweeted back. Still a total chode.
Gaila - Fri, 30 Sep 2016 06:05:38 EST ID:/jLkIUT/ No.56484 Ignore Report Quick Reply
that's why he signed his name Butt Fucker
Seskal - Fri, 30 Sep 2016 18:47:31 EST ID:+5hgZe3l No.56495 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Maybe he just likes fuckin the butts gnomesaiyian? He is programmed with many techniques, many kinds of...pleasuring...
Geordie La Fawge - Sun, 02 Oct 2016 08:40:51 EST ID:I8V6YqTw No.56506 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>Janeway literally has a member of her crew Executed.

Just finished watching Tuvix... Jesus christ, this is literally SF-Debris' rendition of her personified. The worst part of it is that nobody calls her on this. The crew pretty much turns into a lynch-mob, all because Tuvix had some apprehensions about being killed.

What could have saved this episode is, after Tuvok and Neelix come back, they both tell her "We remember everything about being Tuvix... What you did was fucking horrifying and we're not sure we're ever going to look at you the same way again" and this could have started a whole arc with Janeway wondering if being so far from civilization has made her go insane to the point where she can justify executing a member of her own crew.
Deanna Troi - Sun, 02 Oct 2016 10:24:04 EST ID:hdgMS5es No.56507 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The one with that other federation ship is pretty fucked up too. Chakotay calls her up that time but illustrates that even though she's fucking awful he's worse by not removing her of duty on that or several other occasions. You think the crew of the enterprise would stand for that? Well maybe the NX-01 would. Maybe. That says it all.
Grilka - Tue, 04 Oct 2016 23:18:10 EST ID:J3LWDK5j No.56529 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Taking a break from watching ENT and watching the TNG episode relics.

It's crazy how much better a show TNG is than ENT.
Lupaza - Wed, 05 Oct 2016 09:20:57 EST ID:MEA45/k/ No.56533 Ignore Report Quick Reply

The thing is as much as Tuvok sucks, Janeway cannot look forward to a resupply and requires the two original crew members back if at all possible.

Tuvok probably pinches harder as a pure vulcan though.

Plus the travesty of having Janeway order the death of a crew member pales in comparison to firing one cast member and forcing the other one to wear contacts for the rest of his run on the show.
Private S Money - Wed, 05 Oct 2016 09:43:20 EST ID:onZyHBMg No.56534 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I couldn't stomach ENT past the end of season 2. I'm watching TAS now.
Stonn - Wed, 05 Oct 2016 15:45:06 EST ID:+5hgZe3l No.56535 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Tuvix is like Threshold to me. I'm just happier if I pretend they don't exist.
That's literally when it starts to get good (okay...better...) I mean you get to see a bunch of crazy bugs and apes and shit with the same ridges on their head for like way too many episodes, and then in the last season they remember 'hey this was supposed to be a prequel show' and finally start bringing in some core material from TOS to expand on.
You can safely skip season 3 if you want, really TL;DR: Some aliens blow up Florida, p mad Enterprise hunts them down, turns out they are controlled by genderqueers stuck inside a giant tanning bed, who are trying to turn our universe into tanning beds, and Enterprise stops them. Also something about space bats going back in time to help Nazis, but really you don't need to know that...
Orator Plegg - Wed, 05 Oct 2016 18:06:11 EST ID:hdgMS5es No.56537 Ignore Report Quick Reply
ENT starts to improve in season 3. Sort of. But it only really got good once the temporal arc bullshit got done with and season 4 got on with having stuff actually happen. Then after 2/3 of a season of good episode there is the ending where fatriker ruins everything. But if it had continued, or been run as season 4 was from the get go it might have been a really great series. Archer and his crew are about as shit as Insaneway and hers.

Got to love TOS, it's a relic of an older age of television but it's very good at plot twists and taking you places other shows didn't. Plus the 3 parts of a man dynamic of it's leads is a gold standard.
Orator Plegg - Wed, 05 Oct 2016 18:19:16 EST ID:hdgMS5es No.56538 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Apparently I didn't refresh the page for 5 hours. I did not see Stonn's post before I made mine.
Minuet - Thu, 06 Oct 2016 00:50:04 EST ID:wiVZuv7W No.56542 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>TOS s3e20

5 musical sequences so far. Someone kill me.
Commander Sela - Thu, 06 Oct 2016 04:12:51 EST ID:5aCbAqEw No.56543 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Plus the 3 parts of a man dynamic of it's leads is a gold standard.

Man I never picked up on that. That brings Kirk, Bones, and Spock to a whole new level for me.

I hate TV today, it has to rely on sex and violence to get by. And more recent shows are like one scene dialog, then a music video, now porn, okay back to the single line of dialog. talking about the new season of american horror story but that's a topic for another board Completly uncreative tripe. Nothing like the thought provoking ethical problems see in TOS and TNG.
Jean-Luc Picard - Thu, 06 Oct 2016 09:46:34 EST ID:J6cd56IG No.56544 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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lol u herbert bro?
Groundskeeper Boothby - Sat, 08 Oct 2016 20:38:25 EST ID:syaip2dv No.56577 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>The Haunting of Deck Twelve

Fuck is this a halloween episode?
Guinan - Sat, 08 Oct 2016 22:06:19 EST ID:sehZ/Igr No.56580 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That was the last episode of trek that was (sorta) new to me.. I think I had only seen the beginning until my last complete star trek viewing
Geordie La Fawge - Wed, 12 Oct 2016 13:08:18 EST ID:6AruuVDu No.56639 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There was easy ways of solving the problem, all I'm saying is that ordering his fucking execution was way too far. I mean, I would have written it like:
>Tuvix doesn't want to die, so Janeway says "Fine, I can't force you, but you will have to live with the knowledge that your life cost that of 2 others." which is a dick-statement, but completely true.
>Tuvix goes about his daily business, cooking for the crew, weapons officer duties, stuff like that, but people are noticably wary of him
>He goes to Kez and tells her that he wants to break up with Tuvoks wife and live with her. To which she informs him that she fell in love with Neelix and he had technically killed the man she loved
>Tuvix goes back to Janeway and tells her that after thinking about it, the part of him that's Neelix wants to be with Kes and the part of him that's Tuvok believes that the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one.
>Janeway tells him that his life and needs do matter and that this decision shouldn't be made lightly, but he goes through with it anyway.

Janeway seems less like SFDebris' bitch-queen from hell and more like an actual fucking Starfleet captain, The rest of the crew seem like actual fucking people who don't trust a guy that is the spliced remains of 2 of their friends and Tuvix isn't left running around the bridge with a look of pure fucking terror as the crew has just turned into a lynch-mob.
Guinan - Wed, 12 Oct 2016 23:33:05 EST ID:RHNGWoY0 No.56650 Ignore Report Quick Reply
damn nigga they need to start screening scripts through this board
Bernardo Calvera - Thu, 13 Oct 2016 01:33:37 EST ID:+5hgZe3l No.56653 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If this board made a Star Trek show it would be pretty awesome. Even some of the stuff I don't agree with I see posted here is a lot more thoughtful than a lot of the stuff they've been putting out. Let's make a Kickstarter campaign, we can get a bunch of people together and make a show and...
>>New CBS Fan-Film Guidelines
Toral - Thu, 13 Oct 2016 09:27:54 EST ID:syaip2dv No.56655 Ignore Report Quick Reply

OK so morally I agree with you, but in terms of Janeway I think she needed to kill Tuvix.

This is like, what, season 2 Janeway? She is desperate, has yet to really break, and is doing her best to make Starfleet decisions. She fucked up and killed Tuvix. We know.

Part of being a captain is knowing that your engineer is NOT coming back from the pod, but you send them anyway.
Menos - Sun, 16 Oct 2016 03:31:30 EST ID:0ZbRzUd0 No.56700 Ignore Report Quick Reply
netflix has it all! nb
Guinan - Sun, 16 Oct 2016 14:21:18 EST ID:rC3IwBxZ No.56705 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Better watch it now, I'll bet CBS will pull all their trek series from Netflix once CBS ON DEMAND gets rolling.. for North America at least
Lysia Arlin - Sun, 16 Oct 2016 18:13:26 EST ID:J3LWDK5j No.56709 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Losing Trek is to CBS's shit stream service is not worth MUH FREEDOMS
Gawdie La Fawge - Mon, 17 Oct 2016 05:40:50 EST ID:6AruuVDu No.56720 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That was World War III, The Eugenics war ended in 1996, you muppet. After the Eugenics war, society had pulled itself together and gone back to the radness of the 90's in less than a year. AOL Online, motherfuckers!
Tom Paris - Mon, 17 Oct 2016 06:09:44 EST ID:+5hgZe3l No.56723 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ehhh, that's debatable. In Space Seed the actual exchange is:
>>Spock: The mid-1990s was the era of your last so-called World War.
>>McCoy: The Eugenics Wars.
But, we know from Voyager 'Future's End' that the late 90s also more or less happened the way we remember it, and later material (particularly the TNG premiere) pushes the timeline for WWIII later (for obvious reasons) to the mid-21st century.
So the general canon consensus seems to be that the Eugenics wars were a minor conflict that later culminated in WWIII and thus were historically seen as part of it. Alternatively, you could think that the various meddlings around in time we see happen throughout the various series actually end up having an effect on the timeline, and the different crews are actually remembering different histories.
Lt. Talas - Mon, 17 Oct 2016 13:21:32 EST ID:0WxfBr9c No.56728 Ignore Report Quick Reply

There is a series of Khan books that details the 90s.

It was x-files grade control.
Quark - Fri, 21 Oct 2016 01:07:14 EST ID:xFnlgs1F No.56767 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Insurrection borrows from this and Journey's End.
Degra - Sat, 22 Oct 2016 04:47:37 EST ID:xFnlgs1F No.56788 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Good call!
Curzon Odo - Sun, 23 Oct 2016 23:13:26 EST ID:siczhJsP No.56814 Ignore Report Quick Reply
two shitbirds, one stone
Noonian Soong - Mon, 24 Oct 2016 14:22:12 EST ID:NhVFjF3f No.56818 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If Trek were an RPG I'd probably kill him just for his snazzy unique uniform
Thy'lek Shran - Tue, 25 Oct 2016 00:12:58 EST ID:sS5y1lLA No.56823 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>TNG Half a Life

HOLY shit dudes I am onto something here.

This episode is from May 1991, Gene died in October of 1991. He was in a wheel chair (?) and had already had a stroke around 89.

This whole episode (Botswana dealing with the death of science man) is about Gene.
Guinan - Tue, 25 Oct 2016 14:23:44 EST ID:8zN8G5Rx No.56824 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I never realized this but it really makes sense.. also I think it bears mentioning that this is the episode where they first gave Luxwana depth and made her a more likeable character. Interedesting.
Major Rakal - Tue, 25 Oct 2016 16:18:06 EST ID:Q99uj1Y0 No.56826 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That's a bit more ironic though, or fitting with the narrative that Roddenberry needed to let go of Star Trek to let it continue to grow. As his grip on the series loosened even his wife's character finally began to gain some depth.
Thy'lek Shran - Tue, 25 Oct 2016 18:04:04 EST ID:sS5y1lLA No.56828 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Totally. Dr. Tillicum or whatever says a few times about his "forty years of work!" and whatnot.

At one point he says "Stars...are unpredictable as something something". But it seems like he is talking about hollywood stars, if you let it fall out of the fourth wall.
DaiMon Bractor - Wed, 26 Oct 2016 22:28:37 EST ID:siczhJsP No.56836 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Currently watching Beyond
Fuckin 20 minutes in and the Enterprise already has no damn nacelles
DaiMon Bractor - Wed, 26 Oct 2016 22:57:13 EST ID:siczhJsP No.56837 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I do like that Spock and Bones are stranded together though.
DaiMon Bractor - Thu, 27 Oct 2016 02:51:15 EST ID:siczhJsP No.56843 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So, my final review on Beyond is that it was pretty good.
It was better than Into Darkness, and maybe about equal to 2009.
It had a really good cast. There were some major grievances on my part, but also some pretty good "pros."

Why didn't they go around the nebula?
Why didn't they send in a scout ship before sending the MF'in Enterprise?
Why did they take that chick's word at face value?
That fucking motorcycyle
The Beastie Boys saving the day
Kirk's hair
The whole homegrown terrorist angle was a little too on the nose and topical

The enemy race was kinda cool
Jalyn was kinda cool as well, interesting tech with her hologram devices
Dialogue was pretty good, especially between Bones and Spock
Great effects, especially with the battle with the swarm
The tribute to Nimoy was touching

Overall, probably give it a 7/10, rounding up.
Vice Admiral Leyton - Mon, 07 Nov 2016 01:02:48 EST ID:MGqsIXaQ No.56956 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So I'm coming up on 335mg of DXM and I'm watching voyager. Just had an episode where they go to an M-class planet that makes everyone itch, followed by an episode where everyone hallucinates. Relevant?
Vice Admiral Leyton - Mon, 07 Nov 2016 01:03:22 EST ID:MGqsIXaQ No.56957 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Make that 345mg.
Christine Chapel - Sat, 12 Nov 2016 10:13:18 EST ID:U7Q3I8Pm No.57014 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just watched the third Abrams Trek movie and I agree that it was better than the last two, but it was still disappointing. The entire movie was something blowing up or a fist fight or people quipping shitty one liners like they're at a stand up club. I thought Spock was really out of character and was basically acting like a grandiloquent human, not a Vulcan. They confuse big words for reason and logic. In the end it felt like someone was saying "this is what research shows people want so let's shove it down their throats!"
Groundskeeper Boothby - Tue, 22 Nov 2016 18:19:07 EST ID:7vyJuoD/ No.57106 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Just finished TNG, moving on to TOS.
Benny Russell - Tue, 22 Nov 2016 18:59:49 EST ID:+5hgZe3l No.57107 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Prepare your ears to be raped by trumpet blasts!
Seriously, when I first went to TOS from purely being in the '90s era shows, I was constantly distracted by the soundtrack. 'Did people really think shows need to sound like this back then?' Don't worry, you'll get used to the cheese and then love the cheese
Librarian - Tue, 22 Nov 2016 22:19:19 EST ID:sS5y1lLA No.57112 Ignore Report Quick Reply

"Stage for Screen"

you are welcome
Odo - Fri, 25 Nov 2016 07:55:51 EST ID:fHr+JMyR No.57132 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>TNG episode "Loud as a Whisper"

That makes me wonder what's the situation with deaf culture in the Star Trek era.
Odo - Fri, 25 Nov 2016 08:12:29 EST ID:fHr+JMyR No.57133 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also, I have to say even though DS9 was my first Star Trek series, I've come to really appreciate Picard and his ideals as I've gotten older, especially as a person who has been both sjw and anti-sjw

Not that I don't appreciate Sisko's willingness to get his hands dirty.

I'm also coming to appreciate Pulaski a bit more.
Torg - Sun, 27 Nov 2016 00:12:39 EST ID:/M7y7o2O No.57154 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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turns out this was the ear equivalent of geordis visor
Seven of Nine - Sun, 27 Nov 2016 11:49:40 EST ID:sS5y1lLA No.57155 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>Uhura is secretly part deaf and we never fucking knew it

I actually like this idea.
Lt. Daniels - Tue, 13 Dec 2016 16:58:30 EST ID:RxQ4CZd2 No.57320 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>TNG Genesis

What a lame Halloween episode.
DaiMon Bok - Tue, 13 Dec 2016 18:18:26 EST ID:+5hgZe3l No.57321 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Seeing Barclay as a spider and Troi as a giant salamander is worth anything, bro.
Deanna Troi - Wed, 14 Dec 2016 02:31:21 EST ID:90oFOcqs No.57328 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I actually like that episode, mostly cuz it was directed by Gates and her role in it is so minute and over the top that it's hilarious.
Gul Darhe'el - Mon, 02 Jan 2017 12:08:59 EST ID:rKPlmQHv No.57559 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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And I've finally watched Threshold. It certainly didn't start out bad but it just got out of control.
Gul Darhe'el - Mon, 02 Jan 2017 13:10:19 EST ID:rKPlmQHv No.57560 Ignore Report Quick Reply
To give the episode some credit though, McNeill's acting was pretty good and Tom spitting out his tongue was neat but that wasn't enough to save the episode.
Sarek - Mon, 02 Jan 2017 15:44:01 EST ID:qqC6VKPF No.57562 Ignore Report Quick Reply

id say it gets better, theres an entire season though thats a waste (i believe its season 4), literally they could have deleted that entire season and nothing would be different

it definitely does improve though
Azan - Fri, 06 Jan 2017 22:10:23 EST ID:NUbxvEoE No.57601 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The flavor text on that card is dope.

They pay lip service to that shit, but it is there if you think about it. Like they mention "Borg shields and enhancements" and they do have a bunch of Borg infrastructure on the ship that Seven uses as well. They unveil the astrometrics lab as a big achievement. This is all Seven of Nine related somehow. And of course the Delta Flyer. Which...they should have had like 8 of those fuckers, going out and scouting on long range sensors for resources, energy, wormholes, weird intergalactic transporters, etc. They clearly had some kind of manufacturing wing in that shuttle bay with the number of shuttle craft they lost during that fucking show.

But yeah it would have been cool to see more of a focus on that stuff, and certainly to see more persistent battle damage. One thing they could have easily done is, instead of having extras walking down a hallway past our crew during expository scenes, they could have had them doing repair work. Or installing new technology. Etc.
Rionoj - Sat, 07 Jan 2017 09:06:46 EST ID:UKKS3Tki No.57603 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah I forgot a lot of that shit but I think that sums up why they failed. I mean I'm not saying season 7 voyager should have been unrecognisable but it should have a few upgrades. I mean they've met so many more advanced races. The thing about humans and tech is, if we have an idea we're very good at finding a way to make it happen. If you've seen it happen and probably have scanner data, then I think with a bunch of starfleet officers knocking around it should be very doable.

Surely with all the enemy they fought on arrival back at the alpha quandrant they should have advanced starfleet weapons shielding and engine tech about 15 years each but you get the feeling that all they provided was good test data for a now established ship class.
Azan - Sat, 07 Jan 2017 10:27:26 EST ID:NUbxvEoE No.57604 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>I mean they've met so many more advanced races.

I don't know about that either. I mean, certainly they've met advanced races, but my impression was always that the Delta Quadrant was a backwater generally. Other than the Borg and the Hirogen and some aliens of the week.

Voyager is also often referred to as one of the most technologically advanced ships in the region whenever people see it. She's simply outnumbered most of the time.

I thought of another big innovation that kind of counts: The weird duplicate Voyager managed to perfect slipstream technology, so IMO the real Voyager crew would have been capable of that same feat without the same results assuming they had whatever idea duplicate crew had.
Dr. Reyga - Sat, 07 Jan 2017 21:49:10 EST ID:TdmiuD6e No.57609 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Looking back on it, it wasn't Slip Stream but just some enhanced warp core. And they don't use it until the end when they're desperate to get back to the Y Class planet. But the enhanced drive did work, they shut it down early because they figured it was the radiation (which would have been benign to non-silver blood beings) that was causing their issues.
Seskal - Sun, 08 Jan 2017 11:59:24 EST ID:H39fqjWc No.57611 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>That moment when you realize Gary Seven is really just American Doctor Who
Guinan - Sun, 08 Jan 2017 20:35:54 EST ID:RHNGWoY0 No.57618 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Such a shitty knockoff too.. goddamn that episode is up there on my top 5most shittiest of all Trak
Ardon Broht - Mon, 09 Jan 2017 00:44:00 EST ID:sQLio0UG No.57621 Ignore Report Quick Reply

yes, it sets the tone for the third season of the show

I have never seen many of the third season episodes
Curzon Odo - Mon, 09 Jan 2017 23:56:44 EST ID:T17RUuBL No.57625 Ignore Report Quick Reply
But hey!
What if Gary Seven was actually Wesley Crusher's seventh incarnation and Isis was his Q companion!
Sarina Douglas - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 00:08:04 EST ID:cEFOolYV No.57626 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Watching DS9 season six: Sons and Daughters.

Fucking Alexander.
Lt. Cmdr. Dexter Remmick - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 12:35:07 EST ID:n8McU5oH No.57630 Ignore Report Quick Reply
there's a bit of general Spy-Fi ripoff in there too, but yeah it's the Doctor with a stoned ray instead of a sonic screwdriver, the same magic ID card, and a slightly different cost-saving "walk out of normal door" technique
Trentin Fala - Tue, 10 Jan 2017 13:14:52 EST ID:OikXj97p No.57631 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>VOY Future's End

I always enjoy Star Trek episodes that take place in contemporary times. I feel like what little I've watched of S3 Voyager is a huge improvement, though it feels like they threw out the lost in space concept by now.
K'Ehleyr - Fri, 13 Jan 2017 03:42:29 EST ID:5LFMnEaK No.57650 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thanks bro i've been looking for the spacedawg episodes
Subcommander Velal - Tue, 17 Jan 2017 08:19:01 EST ID:5aCbAqEw No.57683 Ignore Report Quick Reply
and then in gambit part 1 they get an iridian and the second his part demands he pick some thing up suddenly thumbs.
Guinan - Tue, 17 Jan 2017 15:18:46 EST ID:ef2hX2Yo No.57686 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's Yridiians (closed caption taught me) and they show those dudes like three times and they have wildly different hands each time
Jossen - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 22:52:55 EST ID:5aCbAqEw No.57744 Ignore Report Quick Reply
huh, I never watch with subtitles but it always sounded like it began with I.
Mordoc - Thu, 02 Feb 2017 14:02:40 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.57856 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>ENT S1E20 Oasis
This is the first ENT episode that is just really bad.
Fuckin ghosts.
Furel - Thu, 02 Feb 2017 15:54:24 EST ID:TJx6CT+d No.57858 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>TNG s4e24 The Next Phase

I always laugh at how the main villain of this episode was killed off. Pic related.

Also, were they trying to make Ro and Geordi a thing? I was probably imagining that.
Furel - Thu, 02 Feb 2017 15:55:32 EST ID:TJx6CT+d No.57859 Ignore Report Quick Reply
DaiMon Bok - Thu, 02 Feb 2017 19:17:25 EST ID:T9o5ymNT No.57862 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Almost finished with my first time watching Deep Space Nine all the way through.

I'm not sure why it gets shit on so much. I'm loving it. Maybe because I'm binge watching it?

Also, Weyoun is best boy.
Chairman Koval - Thu, 02 Feb 2017 20:28:47 EST ID:2CjFaDB+ No.57863 Ignore Report Quick Reply
People who genuinely think DS9 is bad simply have bad taste. There's no real other way to put it. It's a well made show that achieves what it set out to do, and much more. I suspect there are also a lot of people who dislike it for not being TNG or Voyager. As in, they simply do not like the core concept of DS9. When I was young, there were still a lot of the old curmudgeons hurduring about how it can't be proper Star Trek because they don't "trek" anywhere with the space station.
Cmdr. Williams - Thu, 02 Feb 2017 21:14:13 EST ID:BugATLBx No.57864 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Weyoun 6 is best weyoun. you are the bajoran filth. you are the bajoran scum you stink bajoran REMOVE HASPERATE
DaiMon Bok - Thu, 02 Feb 2017 21:46:02 EST ID:T9o5ymNT No.57865 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I am a total slut for Next Generation, but DS9 has introduced me to who I think might be my new favorite Star Trek characters in Sisko and Garak.
Commander Donatra - Thu, 02 Feb 2017 23:01:16 EST ID:rL+jXxSr No.57866 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Then those dumb asses forget the first ep. they move the station and go on a trek to the worm hole like every weekend to piss people off.
Hoshi Sato - Thu, 02 Feb 2017 23:49:59 EST ID:w/4dKlhi No.57867 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Rewatched Season 1 of Voyager the last few days. Thought I might want to get back into it. Something about Kate Mulgrew's acting drives me up the wall. It's the pouty face! What is the pouty face she makes all the time, lol

I tried to find a picture of it, but instead I found a picture of what looks like a man in drag. Oh god I just can't take her seriously anymore. So long Voyager rewatch lmao
Senator Kimara Cretak - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 01:15:22 EST ID:L3E9v1HE No.57869 Ignore Report Quick Reply
She's got a very adrogynous face. Powerful really. I can deal with it. She was a good captain too.She's a little chessy but a lot of trek is a little chessy anyways.
Cmdr. Erika Benteen - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 19:27:39 EST ID:w/4dKlhi No.57875 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It turns out I can deal with it, too, because I am still watching the show. Tuvok is too sexy for me to let a little Mulgrew pout muck it up. Voyager was my first Star Trek, so Janeway was my introduction to a powerful female captain. Sometimes she is just so ballsy that I can't not love her.

>We may be in the delta quadrant, but we will still adhere to Starfleet protocol!
>BRUTALIZE THIS STARSHIP FOR TRIGGERING ME, warp us ten thousand light years closer to home on the ashes of their debris. I smell COFFEE.
Daniel Jackson - Sat, 04 Feb 2017 08:43:38 EST ID:hFMjIe3s No.57877 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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She loved her cup of hot coffee. That's the only thing I can relate to her with.
T'Pau - Sat, 04 Feb 2017 09:21:56 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.57878 Ignore Report Quick Reply
ENT-Carbon Creek
Lt. Reginald Barclay - Sat, 04 Feb 2017 12:27:25 EST ID:dV0i2NZn No.57879 Ignore Report Quick Reply

We just watched this one as well. Wife is from PA so it has a kind of homey feel for her.

Anyway that's not how plumbing works, the drip is clearly from the nut and simply draining on the bottom of the pipe... the effects dudes pointed the lazer at the wrong part.
Admiral Patrick - Sun, 05 Feb 2017 13:32:19 EST ID:5uU+DoWU No.57890 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Wasn't that the determined to be the worst EP in the entire canon? Worse than Threshold.
I didn't hate it either btw.
Mezoti - Sun, 05 Feb 2017 23:30:39 EST ID:ZQh4jLN8 No.57893 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I know a lot of people really hate it but I thought it was really funny, and I guess if campy=bad then it was really fucking bad. But some people take trek too seriously.
Mezoti - Sun, 05 Feb 2017 23:55:09 EST ID:ZQh4jLN8 No.57894 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also, threshold is infinitely worse. I'm not sure how anyone could come to that conclusion.
Thrax - Mon, 06 Feb 2017 00:09:35 EST ID:/M7y7o2O No.57895 Ignore Report Quick Reply
idk I thought that was one of the only decent ENT episodes just because Phlox was the only decent character on that fucking ship
Dr. Leah Brahms - Mon, 06 Feb 2017 12:38:40 EST ID:dH8EWgir No.57909 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It happens a lot with non-trekkies too. And I understand the feeling, it's just that if something is overall entertaining I can manage to look over a mistake or two. Then again, I'm more bothered by character inconsistencies than plotholes.
Iliana Ghemor - Wed, 08 Feb 2017 23:26:20 EST ID:NUbxvEoE No.57948 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It definitely would have been good. Chakotay getting sucked in more and more with Anorax's madness after him and Paris get captured would be good too.
Guinan - Sat, 11 Feb 2017 14:10:49 EST ID:bKgbNgyA No.57977 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Season 7 mostly sucks. It's like Vic Fontaine was the representation of decay and cancer in the show. It declined and continued to decline all the way until the end once he shows up.

Instead of what they did, the war should have wrapped up at the beginning of season 7, giving way for closure and trek politics about what happens after Cardaassia gets fucked, more prophets stuff that wasn't retarded soap opera bullshit, etc.

The only way the metaphor could have been MORE transparent would be if the Xindi prayed facing Mecca
Natima Lang - Sat, 11 Feb 2017 18:14:43 EST ID:dV0i2NZn No.57979 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Just watched this dude fistfuck, I mean fist fight Reed.

Honest question: why didn't they just hook up?
Sarek - Sat, 11 Feb 2017 20:28:39 EST ID:wkPz4yP/ No.57980 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I agree, DS9's whole war thing was awesome..for about 2.5 seasons. Then it just got old. They would have "explored how war affects Star Trek ideals" much better if they had spent at least half of Season 7 showing life going back to normal. Maybe station at DS9 a science ship instead of a warship. Show reconstruction, do a hardcore PTSD episode. Instead of whatever that nonsense was at the end.
Commander Suran - Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:07:57 EST ID:KikjBBjU No.57981 Ignore Report Quick Reply
agreeded. It was so odd to see the war being to slow down, and seemingly ending in a peace... then in the final 7 episodes it ramps up 100 fold with Breen joining the Dominion, Earth getting blown up, Political upheaval for the Klingons, and the sudden total rebellion of Cardassia, and finally a super fleet being put together in record time and attacking Cardassia prime.

Never mind the Prohpets/Pah-Wraths shit.
Curzon Dax - Sat, 11 Feb 2017 23:55:15 EST ID:SpkphYvS No.57983 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think maybe the war could have wrapped up in the middle of season 7 and the rest of the season could have been about tracking down Gul Dukat as he tries to release the pa'wraiths and giving us some more closure on the state of the galaxy.

They set up something really interesting at the end, showing us that it's a whole new era for multiple cultures like the Ferengi, the Klingons, and Cardassia. I kind of want to see that.
B'Elanna Torres - Sun, 12 Feb 2017 08:14:34 EST ID:6jFPavA+ No.57984 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hayes was basicly a marine, and they repress their gay
Reed was engligh not gay, its just english propriety comes across as a little camp to yankee eyes
Montgomery Scott - Sun, 12 Feb 2017 16:16:10 EST ID:dV0i2NZn No.57990 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Maybe the problem is I don't know enough (or any really) englishmen.

Just rewatching E2 right now, and he is all tore up that Reed2 ends up dying alone. I suppose that fits either interpretation.

I guess what I am saying is that I think the stuffy englishdude shtick is itself a metaphor for his repressed sexuality. The show was on Fox or some shit, and all full of muh 911 during the anti-gay marriage moves in various states.... not safe territory for a gay character....

Whatever though. I dig your perspective and I concede to your points.
Christopher Brynner - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 15:34:49 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.58005 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>ENT The Shipment
So far this Xindi arc isn't that bad, but it looks like the whole season is one big arc with occasional "standalone" episodes based in the expanse. I think they made a mistake with the whole season being one arc, but I don't think the actual lore of the arc is that bad. At least so far, as I'm only still in the beginning of season 3.
Captain Edward Jellico - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 19:46:36 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.58012 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Yeah I can definitely see that. I'm watching Similitude now and I'm also noticing that they're being really cheap in plot devices.

>An episode where T'pol gets sick (Vulcan zombie episode-wasn't actually that bad)
>An episode where Hoshi is mentally held captive
>An episode where Archer loses long term memory
>And an episode where Trip suffers a huge injury

All 4 of those episodes are within a 5 episode span. If they weren't so close together it wouldn't feel so cheap, but it's starting to get old. You can tell they're being pretty lazy.

And yeah all I've seen of Season 4 is the mirror episode, and that episode is amazing, so I've seen some of the potential. I'm looking forward to getting there but don't wanna skip anything, so regardless of how tedious season 3 gets, I'll trudge through it.
Lt. JG Saavik - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 20:36:58 EST ID:NUbxvEoE No.58013 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>it even drags one episode into season 4
Dude I LOVED the ending to Season 3 and into Season 4. I remember watching that when it aired like: O_O what the fuck
Keiko O'Brien - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 06:37:55 EST ID:ZYIEvzVd No.58014 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think I was just so fatigued by the Xindi arc I wanted a new story. Not one last "Oh but actually it's not really done" no matter how fucking crazy it actually was.
Guinan - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 08:47:39 EST ID:RHNGWoY0 No.58015 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why didn't they test it somewhere that wouldn't reveal their plan?
Seven of Nine - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 09:10:47 EST ID:dV0i2NZn No.58016 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>was getting captured part of your plan?
Guinan - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 12:24:09 EST ID:9msoTSN+ No.58021 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Mfw even Star trek is not immune to bane posting
Keiko O'Brien - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 14:45:21 EST ID:ZYIEvzVd No.58023 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The only thing I can think of that the Xindi believed some mysterious people who basically turned the space they worked on into a zone of death for them. Sure we trust you, I mean you're only rendering known space lethal to us. I'm sure there's no link between that and our eventual demise which you've not actually shown us, you've just told us.

I mean seriously the crew of the D didn't let Dr Rasmussen get away with that shit, but yet these space people fooled a WHOLE FUCKING EMPIRE.

Maybe humanity really is smarter than most other races?
Minister Kuvak - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 20:13:58 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.58028 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>ENT Chosen Realm
Wow that has got to be the most politically heavy handed trek episode of all time. Like I know that ENT is all about post 9/11 politics but god damn that was so in your face. Maybe it's just because I'm looking back from now, but it felt extremely contrived. Space jihad, hijacking the Enterprise. Like it's not even metaphors, it's 9/11 in space.
Minister Kuvak - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 20:59:42 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.58029 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Proving Ground
Malcolm isn't gay, he's totally into this Andorian chick.
Greskrendtregk - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 02:25:50 EST ID:/M7y7o2O No.58033 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>TAS The Infinite Vulcan

do these plant guys ever get mentioned again? I think they'd be a cool addition to the Fed
Tom Paris - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 08:26:51 EST ID:ZYIEvzVd No.58034 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Is this the one where Spock mind melds with a giant Spock and creates an infinite cycle of giant Spock?

I saw that episode coming down on mushrooms and it sobered me up. I was like "what the fuck were these guys on?"
Morn - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 10:12:16 EST ID:DnsI5ZDb No.58035 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not exactly watching, but I stumbled upon a summary of These Are the Voyages, and wow, way to piss off everyone. At least I finally understand the Riker kitchen jokes.
Koss - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 13:37:35 EST ID:Sp7wRHGQ No.58037 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Enterprise is a cooking sim.
Nevala - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 20:20:39 EST ID:/M7y7o2O No.58039 Ignore Report Quick Reply
yeah it is, TAS in general has been fucking strange so far
Syrran - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 03:54:22 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.58040 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>ENT E^2
Lmfao I couldn't help but fuckin laugh out loud when T'pol was meeting old T'pol.
It was just too much. Also, Archer should have tortured that motherfucker.

Archer is the best captain so far. By far. Archer is saving the motherfucking human race. He has to do what has to be done. And if that includes beating, torturing and even RAPING aliens, then that's just what had to be done. He's the fucking man.

Based captain.
Jean-Luc Picard - Sun, 19 Feb 2017 03:26:08 EST ID:xuBcumf2 No.58051 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Dinner Dash: Enterprise
>Replicate. Serve. Delicious.
>Gordon Ramsay's Replicator Malfunctions
>Tritanium Chef
Corporal Chang - Sun, 19 Feb 2017 12:53:57 EST ID:6C6kcMFd No.58053 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dude... why the horrible loli guro?
Tiron - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 14:33:53 EST ID:JpsWdQPO No.58073 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sorry man I guess I'm just desensitized to this shit now. I blame lack of Star Trek.
Elim Garak - Fri, 24 Feb 2017 00:02:37 EST ID:zsuUhNCG No.58112 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I watched first contact for the first time today
Why is the borg queen such a succubus?
I expected better from those who have transcended mere flesh. I actually would have thought that after however long of a period she's been through where sex is completely irrelevant she wouldn't have been so suggestive.
Really, she should be a lot more autistic like seven of nine but I guess she's supposed to be the charisma of the borg so maybe her role is specialized.
Still, disappointed in her as always.
Guinan - Fri, 24 Feb 2017 00:43:59 EST ID:4X53I0XV No.58113 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Honestly you're right, the Borg queen is all kinds of wrong, it should have just been Vger again.

Or better yet, don't add something like that which goes against the very nature of the Borg shown so far?

>Oh but we need a character so data can do things. It's fine if it permanently ruins the Borg, we just want ticket revenues
Benjamin Sisko - Fri, 03 Mar 2017 21:53:39 EST ID:/M7y7o2O No.58173 Ignore Report Quick Reply
the borg queen was worth it just for the scene where she goes down on data
Tallera - Sat, 04 Mar 2017 13:37:27 EST ID:FwGGxovs No.58174 Ignore Report Quick Reply

hands down the best s1 episode of any trek, it's completely great.
Guinan - Sat, 04 Mar 2017 23:37:50 EST ID:4X53I0XV No.58176 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Just watched this today. Easily one of the best DS9 episodes. One of the best episodes in all of trek as well.
Quark - Sun, 05 Mar 2017 00:51:28 EST ID:zsuUhNCG No.58177 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Watching Course: Oblivion. Always my favorite voyager episode. Makes me cry like a bitch[/spoiler].

People who slam Voyager forget about episodes like this.
EMH MARK 2 - Sun, 05 Mar 2017 01:41:51 EST ID:DnsI5ZDb No.58178 Ignore Report Quick Reply
As someone else said before, Voyager feels more like summer camp in space than a desperate journey to get back home. I don't really find that a bad thing necessarily, I don't know if I could handle the series being entirely like Year of Hell, which was good shit I definitely won't deny.

Voyager is just kinda... I dunno. It has Trekking but it doesn't exactly change up much from its predecessors. But it's Trek, and every series has it bad and good. I'd rather watch Threshold than whatever is hip and with it these days on television.

I really should get around watching ENT, but it seems like I'd hate Archer. I'm always seeing him getting his ass kicked in screen caps.
Emperor Sompek - Sun, 05 Mar 2017 04:18:05 EST ID:zdJLz8PT No.58184 Ignore Report Quick Reply

He gets his ass kicked because he tries to go straight into being Picard without the established position required for Picard's variety of diplomacy. After two or so seasons of getting his ass kicked he admits it's a good idea for the ship to have guns on it and starts becoming more Kirkish to suit the frontier
Guinan - Sun, 05 Mar 2017 17:49:07 EST ID:4X53I0XV No.58189 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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When you look at it.. ENT had a concept of making Archer go from a doofus to Earth's first seasoned deep space captain.. they had this concept of character growth, it was just so sloppily done, and ended before we could see what any of these people would become.

They had a good idea, they just did a shit job. That's pretty much Enterprise in a nutshell.

A part of me kind of hopes that the idea behind Archer being the 'shadowy future dude' was going to be explained in the 7th season series finale 3-parter where they fucked with the timeline to prevent the Temporal Cold War from ever even happening and undoing the Xindi war as well to prevent some horrible event from destroying the galaxy or some shit. Or they could have not fucked around with all this time travel bullshit in the first place and just made it so it was the Romulans that attacked Earth like it should have been.
Enabran Tain - Sun, 05 Mar 2017 21:05:06 EST ID:zsuUhNCG No.58191 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It does, it's true. And it's definitely more geared towards the feel-inclined and those who like to see incredulous relationships work out.

I like the big family in space vibe because each other is all they have.
Enabran Tain - Sun, 05 Mar 2017 21:10:28 EST ID:zsuUhNCG No.58192 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Archer is my least favorite captain. He's worse than even Janeway imo because her instability is at least amusing and leads to cool plotlines.

However, he doesn't get as much of the spotlight in ENT as Picard gets in TNG or Janeway gets in VOY. My impression of him is simply bland, although to put it broadly he isn't notable enough to be a deterrent to watching the series.
Guinan - Sun, 05 Mar 2017 22:46:18 EST ID:OLPp7laY No.58193 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Jellico and Pike both beat Archer easily
Douglas Pabst - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 06:39:19 EST ID:5aCbAqEw No.58209 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The binars were pretty anoying but they didn't get a whole lot of screen time. I'd say pre-DS9 Farengi were just retarded obnoxious dicks. But hey Mrs Troi is an alien so she wins.. technically. my head canon for completely human looking aliens is Humans from pre ENT that have colonized planets and evolved a little with the environment over the few hundred years to post ENT/TOS. [%]
Sphere Builder - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 08:35:44 EST ID:6C6kcMFd No.58210 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Honestly, that would make a lot of sense in the Star Trek universe of the multiracial Federation constantly being challenged by monoracial empires. There are too many of them for it to hold up completely, but for guys like the Betazoids, who act for all the world like telepathic humans, it's none too shabby.
Guinan - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 23:17:25 EST ID:4X53I0XV No.58220 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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the bynars were just a super-gay, and by gay I truly mean homosexual because they all seemed to be male and they were very inimately paired up if-ya-know-wat-i-mean... they were just a.. "fabulous" version of the borg, instead of assimilating people they just distract them with porn and steal their starships and redecorate them and shit

>after the transhumanist gay sex orgy
Commander Tomalak - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 20:06:12 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.58234 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Speaking of Data. Who do you think would win in a fight, Data or Odo?
Arne Darvin - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 22:13:26 EST ID:hSfbtEAd No.58246 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You have to define the rules. Because Odo could turn into a small bird, fly into the air, turn into a giant boulder and crush Data if it's a straight up murder you're looking for. If Data had time to prepare, Odo would be a fine powder or dust within 60 seconds.

I think Odo would likely take it, he's more strategically minded. You saw how well Data did against that old guy in Strategema the first time he played. Though I'd wager since, I guess, Data participated in the Dominion War, he would have developed some strategy for fighting Changelings in hand to hand combat. Odo is no ordinary Changeling though, he was raised by Cardassians.
Emperor Reclaw - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 12:24:05 EST ID:JE8n9rce No.58249 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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You can definitely tell that TNG S1 is an 80s show because the music uses that one electronic drum that's basically in every 1980s show. You know the one, it goes like dududoo, dududoo in the more dramatic scenes.

And I thought the shut up Wesley was just a meme, but Picard actually said it, as well as his Mom.
Vedek Bareil - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 20:11:16 EST ID:xuBcumf2 No.58255 Ignore Report Quick Reply
your post makes me wish there was a series covering the Enterprise D/E crew fighting the Dominion. Or at least the crew in their different assignments while E is being built and then later season can be on the E. Because for soem reason first contact happens in teh middle of the Dominion war and Worf throws away the defiant and it's just back and fine the next episode... or was the the captain worf defiant class and it didn't become a series because he lost his own ship right away. Worf sucks
Kayron - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 20:33:38 EST ID:DHtbi7AD No.58257 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Reading /nom/ counts as watching trek tonight. Remove hasperat
Chell - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 05:38:48 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.58269 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>DS9: Improbably Cause/The Die is Cast
Great 2 part. I love Garak, and I love Odo. And all this backstory on Garak, and his history that we pretty much all knew all along is finally in the light. There are a lot of iffy ds9 episodes, but there are some great ones. Basically any that are heavy on Cardassians/Odo/Garak (since he's not technically aligned with Cardassia) are really good, so far at least.
Odo - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 06:09:15 EST ID:ZYIEvzVd No.58270 Ignore Report Quick Reply
3DPD isn't a thing though. Not really. However I wonder if people would use adobe holoshop on their holomodels to tweak them before fucking the photons out of them.

Barclay likes his women real though. That's why he has hundreds of hours of simulations involving Troi's drippy vagina rather than ones in which he fucks 14 year old clones of his mum or something.
Private S Money - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 09:58:44 EST ID:6C6kcMFd No.58271 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think the holodeck malfunction is just something you need to look at like car accidents, or plane crashes. It happens, but it's all still safe enough for literal every day use. it's just stuck in this uncanny valley effect where people start focusing so much on the few times it goes wrong that it seems more dangerous than it is. And let's face it, half the injuries we see that result from the Holodeck are people breaking bones during Parrisses Squares or disabling the security themselves.

the real problem with those holodeck episodes is that it's often rather contrived. Like, pull lever X on the bridge, and suddenly the holodeck malfunctions. But I'm OK with that, because an episode is about the idea, not the method used to arrive at it. For instance, in Our Man Bashir, they wanted to do a James Bond sendup. Well, they have to do that on the holodeck. Then they want to highlight fantasy versus reality, so the stakes have to be real. The entire episode is a meta-joke about James Bond. I can take the holodeck malfunctioning for that.

It's honestly really hard to ask writers to not mess with the holodeck, because you've given them a tool to place the characters in ANY context they can think of. James Bond movie? There you are. The Old West? Why not? An unironically racist interpretation of an Irish village? Shoot for the stars! And some other episodes have this really "holodeck episode" kind of feel to them, while not being on the holodeck. That one where Q puts them in Robin Hood, for instance. Or the one where they meet Mark Twain. Both of those feel exactly like holodeck episodes, except with "aliens" instead of "holodeck malfunction". Yet nobody is quipping that living in the Trek universe would be dangerous because of all those aliens constantly messing with you.
Odo - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 10:10:03 EST ID:ZYIEvzVd No.58272 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You're right but I think people don't quip about those because the holodeck is a lazy way of doing it and it seems more like cars "it's not actually very safe but it's just cool enough" and perhaps it gets safer over time.

Maybe also without lawsuits and compensation the federation's holosuites are the most bleeding edge but risky. Quark's holosuite issues happen when someone else goes wrong as well. I get the feeling his have much more robust safeties because ferengi might say "buyer beware" or whatever but reputation has a tangible and often measurable value. Those are his livelihood and if the Negus gets raped by a lonely Moriartym Quark will get sued hard. The feds will just be like "what money?".
Private S Money - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 10:48:12 EST ID:6C6kcMFd No.58273 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't think it's more lazy than saying "lol these aliens have this culture/skill". In the end, it's hard to define "lazy" with a setting like Star Trek. TOS itself was the epitome of lazy, with just pulling shit out of its ass at every oppertunity.

Interesting point about the Ferengi, too. And I don't think they'd be worried about shit like shame. In fact, a Ferengi claiming to be stiffed on a Vulcan Love Slave program would probably get a nod from the judge while everyone in the room goes "nice".
Data - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 22:36:33 EST ID:6C6kcMFd No.58279 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't know. ENT looks as bad as ever to me. Maybe people imagined it was worse because of all the shit-talking, but even rewatching episodes I enjoyed, I find myself discovering that I like them less than I did initially. There are some good ones, but I still wouldn't call it a good show overall. "Mildly entertaining" isn't high praise, really. It's competently put together, but that's all I can say about it. I've watched two cancelled science fiction shows recently, and one of them was outright B quality, with a stereotypical snarling villain. I enjoyed it far more than I did ENT. And it has one thing ENT never had: Self-awareness.

The other was The 4400, and I have to admit Combs had the better roll in ENT. If all of ENT were like Shran, it would have been a good show. Funny, really, how The 4400 had both Summer Glau and Jeffrey Combs as a pair, yet put them in relatively muted roles. But it's also nice to see Combs act like a normal person for once. The man is a great actor.
Captain Edward Jellico - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 21:01:59 EST ID:JE8n9rce No.58285 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>VOY Course: Oblivion
>It's another "Voyager gets destroyed" episode
Captain Solok - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 21:45:33 EST ID:ZYIEvzVd No.58286 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Precious cargo is season 2. It gets worse but it also gets better.
Season 4 is really good barring the end. Season 2 is enjoyable space opera starting to find it's feet. Season 1 is mediocre and ropey. Fuck season 3. fuck it.

The first season the show was finding it's feet. Season 2 they started to find a way. In season 3 executive meddling intensified in season 4 the execs gave up and let the show run.

ENT isn't awful but it's pretty weak. I really enjoy a lot of season 4. It is also the season with the most shran. Season 5 would have started with Andorians in the federation and Shran shipless. If only...
Dr. Denara Pel - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 21:46:22 EST ID:dV0i2NZn No.58287 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Really selling this episode sort, bro.
Captain Edward Jellico - Tue, 14 Mar 2017 00:59:01 EST ID:JE8n9rce No.58292 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well, I didn't hate all of it. I did love the parts where the ship was tripping out.
Ensign Samantha Wildman - Tue, 14 Mar 2017 07:11:41 EST ID:5ockzHQp No.58295 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm making my way through DS9.
I'm finding most of the characters compelling, but Sisko is honestly one of the least interesting captains, even if he does an excellent job. He's just a bland character. And his son is basically Wesley-New and Improved. Even Archer had more personality than him.
Honestly, the DS9 crew is pretty boring. It's the conflict around them that makes them more interesting.
I've always kinda hated Kira because of how whiny she is about the Cardies and her experience with them, but she's actually one of the more compelling of the crew, besides Odo.
Jadzia is nice, but there really isn't much to her, and the episodes that are centered on her are boring or straight up campy, like the one where she does some ritual where she gets to meet the previous symbionts or whatever.
I don't have to explain why Obrien is boring, but he has some great episodes that are centered on him, like the one where he's trapped in a prison for years in his mind.
Bashir is alright but not very compelling at all. Not much to say about him. He's a whiz kid nerd who loves the ladies. Not much else going on.
Quark, Garak, and Dukat are definitely the best characters, but they don't get enough screen time. Like I said earlier, they're a part of the conflict that goes on around the main cast.

All this being said, I'm only up to Season 4 episode 1 so we'll see what else happens. I totally forgot that Worf was even in DS9, and I see that he's about to join in.
Khan Noonien Singh - Tue, 14 Mar 2017 19:04:49 EST ID:xuBcumf2 No.58302 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've always said Voy needed to be darker like the new Galactica, at least in tone not really in the same style and art direction. People needed to die, the ship needed to break and cause handicaps later as no star fleet equipment refills. Resource gathering should have been more important than the odd off screen/ start an EP by returning to voy after weeks of a mission.
Emperor Reclaw - Tue, 14 Mar 2017 20:32:44 EST ID:6C6kcMFd No.58306 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well, I've noticed that as years have gone by, I find myself enjoying episodes I thought were boring, while suddenly disliking ones I used to like. A fresh perspective can do wonders.

I've always had the feeling as if ENT and VOY had their wires crossed somehow. Because ENT did a lot of the stuff VOY should have been doing in regards to being stuck in the middle of nowhere with no support. While VOY focused a lot on diplomatic type stuff that ENT only seemed to really grasp in its final season. In fact, Year of Hell seems a lot like a cross between the Suliban and Xindi arcs.

And to be fair, Bald-and-Sings is one of my favorite characters in Trek. I also think Battlestar Galactica represents an unfavourable turn in modern television where high stakes and serious issues are confused with good television. BSG was very exciting while it was unfolding, but when I rewatched some of it on the tube, I found my attention wandering. The collect-the-Cylons doesn't work twice. Its philosophical points seem aloof as to be in fedora territory, sometimes.

I think I already said it earlier, but a recent (cancelled) show called Revolution I enjoyed was enjoyable specifically because it was very aware of what it was doing. There was room for some levity, and paradoxically that made it easier to take its farfetched plot seriously. It's still seriously B, don't get me wrong, but I got more out of it than I expected.
Grilka - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:23:53 EST ID:ym7qvxUz No.58328 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Just watched Voyager "Coda". That episode is weird. We never find out what that being was. He gets pissed and says he'll consume Janeway one day, but is it responsible for all near death experiences? What if you have no chance to come back to life; does it get you? Seems pretty dark that in Star Trek there is the possibility that when you die you just get consumed by some weird alien being. Any kind of theories about what it was or means for the Trek universe?
Kalita - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 01:47:15 EST ID:NsYbbNZU No.58332 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Voyager subtly plays with the idea that different species go to an afterlife specific to them (it's not the most original idea, it's like saying that Christians go to Christian heaven, Muslims go to Muslim heaven, etc.)

Although in the same way it kind of pulls the punch, leaving it up to you to decide whether it's suggesting this is what actually happens to people when they die, or just that people's expectations build a heaven in the near-death state (which is the issue in real life too) :

>B'Elanna goes to Klingon hell, gets angry
>Neelix DOESN'T go to the Great Forest, is greatly disappointed
>Those aliens who, when they died, went to live in that planet's rings as energy

And then of course 'Coda'...so we can say that either there is or isn't an afterlife in Star Trek, but if there is, each species/religion has a unique one. So that means either that all humans are always only eaten by the Coda dude -- that our afterlife in particular and perhaps afterlives in general are actually bunk and just ways for energetic beings to eat our life force after we're done with it...

...or that (and this is the one I prefer) that was just some freaky Delta quadrant alien who attacked Janeway in particular, and all the stuff he said was just lies to trick her.

This guy: True eventual devourer of your immortal soul or just a lying dipshit -- you decide.
Trentin Fala - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 14:51:47 EST ID:X3s+WNvl No.58344 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You know, Voyager is actually surprisingly good. That's the best way to describe it. Surprisingly good. Every time.
Nurse Alyssa Ogawa - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 17:15:27 EST ID:JE8n9rce No.58354 Ignore Report Quick Reply
With everything I've heard about it, I was certainly not expecting to enjoy it as much as I am. I wouldn't call it the best, but it's hardly the worst either. Though, I'm finding season 5 to be pretty poor overall.
Raven Overcoming Orchid !Tz0ULG.7to - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 21:09:41 EST ID:3q2kEMAP No.58355 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I have a secret theory that Neelix is actually the Caretaker Array alien, and that he spends his many many many years spying on aliens across the galaxy, and abducts ships for the purpose of riding them back all the way to their home system. Everything that happens in Voyager that is weird and has no real explanation is just Neelix fucking with them to make things interesting.

So for this episode, he was basically doing the Nagilum thing to learn about how each species on Voyager would deal with experiencing their particular afterlife.
Burt Ryan - Fri, 04 Aug 2017 21:45:45 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.60493 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Neat. That would make more sense than any other reason that he was shoed into the story. So what does that make Kes? A pet of his I guess
Guinan - Sat, 05 Aug 2017 01:53:52 EST ID:GygX1Icc No.60494 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just another of his underage hoes
Admiral Hayes - Sun, 06 Aug 2017 05:40:08 EST ID:6C6kcMFd No.60505 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Makes sense, doesn't it? The Caretaker is an ancient, non-humanoid alien, and all of Neelix's nonsense can be explained by him not understanding humanoid hangups. Like pedophilia.
Leonard McCoy - Sun, 06 Aug 2017 12:00:24 EST ID:0LBKrNiK No.60506 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>not a hateful jab at Roddenberry himself

think about it.
Kayron - Thu, 10 Aug 2017 06:05:14 EST ID:FjZ9V2nx No.60548 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just got done watching Star Trek Enterprise episode Carpenter Street. They travel back in time to 2004 and stop the Xindi. It's not really a good episide but my concern is about the canon. Shouldn't the world be dealing with the aftermath of the Eugenics war around that time? Or was the war retconned or something like that in another Trek?
Vekma - Thu, 10 Aug 2017 10:01:04 EST ID:MUJ4M6tq No.60553 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It was never officially retconned I believe.
And as far as I know they never really give details about countries or regions. I'm pretty sure it wasn't global, since it's specified that WW3 was a seperate event.

So it could have been a somewhat isolated event and North America was spared of destruction. Moreover, the casualty rate was like 30-40 million, roughly half that of WW2. And lastly, it's 8 years later, a lot can happen in that kind of timespan, especially with the available "modern" technology.
Commander Suran - Thu, 10 Aug 2017 12:23:34 EST ID:0LBKrNiK No.60554 Ignore Report Quick Reply

the theory is that the eugenics wars happened x-files style, we were never told.

at some point in the future it becomes common knowledge that the 90s were more fucked up than we knew.
Lysia Arlin - Mon, 14 Aug 2017 10:06:54 EST ID:MUJ4M6tq No.60632 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You must be confused or something.
It's clearly established that the eugenics war are history and took place in the late 20th century a.k.a. the 90s.
Guinan - Fri, 27 Oct 2017 02:00:58 EST ID:sMB9jtuf No.62093 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Correct, if you watch TOS Space Seed, Khan was said to be rolling around the Middle East with his supermen homies squishing fools heads between their palms and shit back in 1996 or so. He left on a ghetto space ship using the same technology we froze Walt Disney's head with because his fellow genetically engineered secret agent Osama bin Laden went rogue and then died of kidney failure in 2007. From being genetically engineered. So it was covered up... X-Files style.

Everything you know is a lie. Khan already left.
Gralik Durr - Fri, 27 Oct 2017 11:19:47 EST ID:s9v2HQgf No.62107 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Walt Disney wasn't frozen, you sound like an Alex Jones listener

But anyway Khan was better as Beniduck Cumonherbun, I mean those high cheek bones could feel mountains

and he crashed a space ship into The People's Republic of San Francisco, Oakland is cheaper anyways
Temporal Agent Daniels - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 04:51:13 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.62487 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Nefarious plots by Starfleet Officers.
Geordi La Forge - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 12:15:22 EST ID:WiKQv2fM No.62491 Ignore Report Quick Reply
people have been making jokes about freezing Disney since before Bill Hicks "died"
Admiral Maxwell Forrest - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 15:42:56 EST ID:uOl3QzqF No.62494 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The actor from Independence Day didn't die and he certainly is not frozen, I wouldn't get information from the throwaways
Vegan420 - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 23:03:20 EST ID:eC4jDMEr No.62578 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>We need things that make us go

HAHAHAHAHAHH YES. This episode i just watched frequently, lmfaoooo
Cyrano Jones - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 11:40:48 EST ID:SfiMcBo4 No.62653 Ignore Report Quick Reply
watching Parallels, the one with all the quantum universes and spoonheads on the bridge and shit
when the 1701-Ds keep popping in I like imagine a silly "poip!" type noise
Captain Goroth - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 13:29:45 EST ID:iXfXV1TP No.62655 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I like how this episode, coming in S7, is kinda like the writers acknowledging, 'Hey, look at all the other stuff we could've done! We didn't fail to think of your epic Borg-destroy-the-Federation-Enterprise-as-Mad-Max fanfic, we just didn't go that direction.'

Now what will really cook your noodle later is when you realize that out of all the alternate realities of our real universe that have a show called Star Trek The Next Generation, a lot of them have an episode called 'Parallels' where the plotline our reality's TNG writers staff chose shows up as a mere alternate blip to be blasted away...
Ambassador Shras - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 19:20:42 EST ID:SfiMcBo4 No.62676 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Meh, a lot of that really wouldn't carry a story too long.

Obviously if they had Ensign Garak instead of Ensign Ro it would have been a jillion times better but I liked the little snapshots.
Ikat'ika - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 11:59:17 EST ID:mRRfDVxy No.62691 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dat balance of terror
It's like an old submarine movie :)
James T Kirk - Sun, 26 Nov 2017 23:41:47 EST ID:ZlJp0gcI No.62943 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Pretty much because of the opening theme.
Dmitri Valtane - Mon, 27 Nov 2017 05:22:36 EST ID:q3XMUiXr No.62944 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Idk. I've always liked and and thought Archer was a good captain and most of the crew is pretty good. Better and more likeable than the Voyager crew for sure. It's not my favorite but it's definitely not my least favorite. It's middling for me.
Marla Gilmore - Mon, 27 Nov 2017 09:49:31 EST ID:O+vrOxhM No.62947 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I thought it was always because of fat cook Riker.
Mobara - Mon, 27 Nov 2017 23:03:54 EST ID:C+nYGNcN No.62954 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That sounds awesome though.
Guinan - Mon, 27 Nov 2017 23:18:29 EST ID:hXkCmUmf No.62956 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Trip Tucker is George w Bush
Malcolm is Tony Blair
Space 9/11

Xindi superlasers can't melt Floridian continental plates, Archer is the future guy, everything is a lie
Vice Admiral Leyton - Thu, 30 Nov 2017 03:20:25 EST ID:knEAr630 No.62983 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Misspelling Xindi
>Federation didn't exist yet.
>Talking about IQ points.

Mmmm dats sum good Irony.
Deanna Troi - Tue, 09 Jan 2018 20:16:23 EST ID:MKoc/uin No.63399 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Chairman Koval - Sat, 27 Jan 2018 07:58:14 EST ID:XFr8qSiV No.63568 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I watched a couple of episodes yesterday and I'm curious, where should I start watching ST from and in what order?
Chulak - Sat, 27 Jan 2018 15:34:57 EST ID:TinR0Zso No.63569 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What did you enjoy?

Also I'm going to link a post I made last week.


nb because trektube is sci fi films most weekends. If you can't be bothered to download and seek out stuff just find it and lurk there for a bit. You will get shit out of order and a mixture of different series though it does a pair of episodes then changes series (large arcs aside). Each series plays in order but there's basically 2 episodes every 3 hours with every other series in between.

Oh and if you're still on the fence and just want to watch a couple more episodes and decide, the episode that got me hooked was TNG's "Gambit" it's a 2 parter and Kirt streamed it during a smokeathon. I didn't know trek till then. Or if you just want to watch a really dramatic episode, DS9 "Duet", it's mostly 2 people talking so if that doesn't sound like fun come back later, it's really fucking good (there's maybe 1 better DS9 episode but you absolutely should not watch it out of sequence). The only backstory you need to know is "think Bajor is the Jews and Cardassia was Nazi Germany" that's very very rough but it'll work for that episode.
Chairman Koval - Sat, 27 Jan 2018 17:58:55 EST ID:XFr8qSiV No.63570 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There was an episode where some blonde woman tried to bone Data but it went weird then there was an episode where a redhead got seduced by a Scottish ghost. The first one was better than the other.
Malcolm Reed - Sat, 27 Jan 2018 18:36:30 EST ID:CqzmvBTm No.63571 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just watch TNG and DS9 in order and you'll be good
Lore - Sun, 28 Jan 2018 03:57:15 EST ID:l5TvN503 No.63572 Ignore Report Quick Reply
pretty much this. tng and ds9 are pretty much universally considered the 2 best series. Then after those I'd recommend watching Enterprise or Voyager, doesn't really matter which you watch. And then if you feel so inclined I'd watch the original series. It's really dated but there are for sure some gems in there and a lot of good lore.

tbh tng is kinda weak at first, so if you find that season 1 is too tedious you can skip most of it if you want. I didn't skip it because I mostly enjoyed the episodes, but there are people that just don't like season 1 in general. It gets far better over the next few seasons, but imo if you can stand it, it's better to watch it.

Out of season 1, the episodes that you shouldn't miss are:
Encounter at Farpoint
The Battle
Hide and Q
Skin of Evil

There might be some other important episodes in season 1 but these are the ones I consider decent and/or containing background or other important plot info.
Lt. George Primmin - Sun, 28 Jan 2018 09:01:45 EST ID:TinR0Zso No.63573 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The scottish ghost is one of the worst episodes of the entire second half of TNG. You've been watching TNG. If the blonde woman did actually fuck data, that's season 1 which is the worst season and 90% of TNG is better than the episodes you saw.

You could even skip most of S1 and just watch the ones this guy mentioned. They're mostly okay episodes with some actual moments of good (a couple are just plot centric, and it's worth at least establishing the characters a bit).

I do have a soft spot for "Symbiosis" though, it examines the prime directive, has a good (but ham handedly handled) twist and a satisfying ending, it's so bad it's good in a few spots but also genuinely good in others.

S2 is patchy especially before "Matter of Honour" (not to be confused with S1's code of honour, seriously) but you get that and then "Measure of a Man" which is excellent in a very different way and then there's a few good ones. Everyone loves the Pakled.

Skip Shades of Grey (last episode of S2) though, it's a clips episode culled from weak shows. You could probably skip the first 7 episodes of season 2 but I'd probably watch "Unnatural selection" so you at least understand Pulawski for the one season she's around she's not a complete cunt despite how she may seem at first, she's a bit of a romantic and quite caring but also a bit backwards and standoffish I feel like the arc the writers had in mind never finished so you get her at her worst more often than not. Elementary my dear data is cheesy (most holodeck episodes are) but it's mostly worth watching so you'll get all the jokes about holodeck safeties. Oh and up the long ladder is pretty bad but amusingly so. TAIGS EVERYWHERE
Ghee P'Trell - Mon, 29 Jan 2018 14:56:59 EST ID:TinR0Zso No.63581 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Remember they're a science/diplomatic organisation, military is tertiary for most of them until halfway through DS9.

Also yeah, the first season and a bit is a bit weak.
Karr - Mon, 29 Jan 2018 17:15:30 EST ID:XFr8qSiV No.63584 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't see why that would make them retarded. S1E4 opens with Spock and some guy in hazard suits, the guy takes off his glove for no reason, gets it dripped on, right away shoves his hand up inside his face covering to smell it. It's just absurd. Scientists of that sort would have not only hazardous environment training but also common sense. S1E1, the instant they land on a planet they feel up some blue plant for no reason. This has no impact on the plot but it's also idiotic.
Karr - Mon, 29 Jan 2018 18:06:30 EST ID:XFr8qSiV No.63585 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Our engines imploded while also sending us back in time three days for some reason!
>Great! Set engines to full ahead!
Fuck this.
Ghee P'Trell - Mon, 29 Jan 2018 18:11:39 EST ID:TinR0Zso No.63586 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh I thought you started with TNG but yeah.

If you ignore our advice we take no responsibility for this. Everyone said "watch TNG come back to TOS later". Watching in order is good if you want to do it a second time.

TNG has its clangers but you can also take our advice and skip 2/3 of the first season and a big chunk of the second and just start good.

Or just fucking watch "Gambit". Or if you insist on TOS just go for "Balance of terror" because it's actually good.
Karr - Mon, 29 Jan 2018 18:24:16 EST ID:XFr8qSiV No.63587 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've skipped the remaining 73 hours of TOS to start TNG now.
Legate Hovat - Tue, 30 Jan 2018 19:18:12 EST ID:ZBzcw/Bu No.63599 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Riker is the fucking best dude. He's my favorite character, or maybe second only to Data.

>Riker on whether Data should bang a desperate confused girl:
"I think you should go for it! *Huge grin*"

>Riker when challenged to have sex with two disgusting Klingon females:
"One, or both?"

>Riker when Dr. Crusher is explaining transporter malfunctions changing crew ages:
"It's been a long time since I took genetics, doctor..."

>Riker to his own fucking captain
"Enterprise, this is Captain William Riker of the Klingon vessel Pagh. I order you to lower your shields and surrender."

>Riker to the dude smashing his ex's pussy:
"That's the first bad play I've seen you make. If you can bring happiness into Deanna's life, nothing would please me more. You know, you're really not such a bad sort, Ral. Except you don't have any values - beyond the value of today's bid, that is. Deanna is just the woman to bring some meaning to your sorry existence, if you're smart enough to take it. I doubt that you are. To the last mile."
Broik - Tue, 30 Jan 2018 22:20:51 EST ID:dFaO2qSG No.63600 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Don't forget
>Riker gets hit on incredibly hard by the personality shifting empath, but can't do shit because it would cause a diplomatic crisis that would plunge two species into war.
"Riker to bridge, if you need me I will be in the holodeck."
Timothy Lang - Thu, 01 Feb 2018 14:55:04 EST ID:XFr8qSiV No.63615 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Ensign T'su
Is this deliberate? Are all the minor crew members names puns? They name dropped Sun Tzu in an earlier episode.
Captain Solok - Thu, 01 Feb 2018 18:42:49 EST ID:SfiMcBo4 No.63616 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Ensign T'su
>sign tsu
>Sun Tzu
oh fuck me I've been watching this goddamn show since it started and I never noticed that
Lt. Darien Wallace - Thu, 01 Feb 2018 20:23:02 EST ID:zdJLz8PT No.63618 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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You guys think that one's crazy? Get this:
-Worf is named Worf
-Which is like a Wharf
-Where you put SHIPS
-like the ENTERPRISE

Also the gold fringe flag is the flag of the admiralty and it does not apply to citizens, any courtroom flying a gold-fringe flag is operating under maritime/admiralty law and has no right to pass judgement on solid-land residing citizens.
Minuet - Fri, 02 Feb 2018 06:28:45 EST ID:R1asCdOf No.63629 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The robot is named "Data."

Hey, maybe it's a yellow shirt thing.
Ensign Wright - Fri, 02 Feb 2018 12:02:13 EST ID:XFr8qSiV No.63630 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I didn't think that was worth pointing out.
Maybe it is.
I don't know any of the other yellowshirt's names yet.
Koss - Fri, 02 Feb 2018 20:21:52 EST ID:TinR0Zso No.63632 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Data's name isn't worth pointing out because the show does that. His name has in universe significance/symbolism. It's covered by the end of the first season of TNG.

The only yellowshirts worth mentioning that haven't been are O'Brien and Barclay. Neither are full on TNG regulars though O'Brien is main cast for DS9.

The former becomes head of engineering in DS9 and is so good at bodging shit that he manages to fix the quirks in the galaxy's best ton for ton warship (it has so much GUN that it shakes apart at high warp or when firing, or if two toilets are flushed at once with ship's gravity engaged) but also marries the only woman in the galaxy who becomes more fun when possessed by a Pah Wraiths. Which is an entity the wormhole aliens kicked out of space heaven. For being a jerk. When they're okay with basically raping a random woman for their own means. And the more I think about that the worse it gets.

the latter is Howling Mad Murdoch, but actually just a dweeb who likes vidya too much and jerks it to Troi.

Did I miss anyone else?
Emperor Sompek - Mon, 05 Feb 2018 13:14:46 EST ID:XFr8qSiV No.63654 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Trying to watch an episode about time travel
>accidentally navigate away
>can't find my place because the footage they use loops
Badar N'D'D - Mon, 05 Feb 2018 13:43:15 EST ID:Njd1jzAG No.63655 Ignore Report Quick Reply
BRB developing entire series of time travel loop-based sci-fi. Just to fuck with people who fall asleep watching Netflix.
Emperor Sompek - Mon, 05 Feb 2018 16:26:13 EST ID:XFr8qSiV No.63659 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Does Data need oxygen? Food? I know if you cut him he leaks but I'm not clear on how physiologically human he is and how he sustains himself. How vulnerable he is to humans ailments seems to vary according to plot armour.
Minister Kuvak - Tue, 06 Feb 2018 12:22:15 EST ID:XFr8qSiV No.63673 Ignore Report Quick Reply
TNG S1 finale was good because cliffhanger stuff then what the fuck was the S2 premier? Pointless starchild plot filler.
Katogh - Tue, 06 Feb 2018 12:54:26 EST ID:TinR0Zso No.63674 Ignore Report Quick Reply

That starchild episode was awful. I thought unnatural selection was okay. Loud as a whisper was alright, I think the idea slightly outstrips the execution. You sort of stumble for about 7 episodes then Riker does the officer exchange and data goes to Court and those are TNG at it's best in opposite ways. Then it's about 50/50. I like the Icarus Factor hums the American Gladiators theme, Time Squared and a few others in that run.

Most efficient solution is to just absorb their matter and convert it to energy.

You can't just throw rocks the shields down, their power is enormous. Well unless you could hit them at relativistic velocities (not speeds, everyone is relativistic anyway). At the end of the day you're using energy to accelerate those rocks and make them and throwing energy until shields run out. Phasers are likely more efficient.
Minister Kuvak - Tue, 06 Feb 2018 15:08:56 EST ID:XFr8qSiV No.63677 Ignore Report Quick Reply
They seem to get worried about crashing into planets, I figured throwing rocks around won't be too different. Anyway.

E3 and 4 are two Data episodes in a row and I'm quite enjoying that.
Noonian Soong - Tue, 06 Feb 2018 17:16:28 EST ID:qyumxfPl No.63684 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>recipes for cocktails would break down over time
Again, the 'real world' answer to your question is that both transporters and replicators are plot devices used for convenience, and for convenience when they introduced replicators in TNG they hand-waved away how they worked by saying 'they work on a principle similar to transporters.' That's the real substance of their connection.

But in the in-universe technobabble, what is suggested is that there is a difference between creating something new out of a pattern of information by replicating it, and taking something that already exists, converting it to a matter-energy stream, and re-creating it based on its pattern of information. The pattern of information itself doesn't break down over time -- even with a transporter, there is mention of a 'transporter trace' which seems to contain all the molecular information, minus the matter stream. But it is mentioned quite a few times that living matter cannot be replicated -- even replicated food is synthesized dead, it is never in a living phase.

Thus, the viruses, even though they barely qualify as lifeforms, are still 'alive' in a sense, and so I think we are meant to understand that merely replicating the viruses would not produce actual viable strains that would be useful for research. A couple times they bend this rule, particularly in VOY, but I think that was the prevailing in-universe understanding at the time of the episode in question.
Brathaw - Wed, 07 Feb 2018 13:01:05 EST ID:TinR0Zso No.63697 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Fair, rocks would work. But they're not the most efficient way to do the job I imagine. The battle is usually going to be won by whoever has the most energy multiplied by the highest average efficiency. Stuff like tactics and positioning is all about lowering the enemy's ability to use their energy ie targeting one shield bank, dodging attacks or focusing down one ship. Or boosting your own, like the Picard manoever to ensure get a lot of energy into them and they can't answer back.

Yeah it does surprise me, I guess the next step is to work out how to kickstart life. All life at the moment is made from more living things getting bigger and bits falling off and also being alive.
Captain Kurn - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 13:35:18 EST ID:XFr8qSiV No.63711 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Klingons are fucking idiots. There's no way any intelligent species could maintain any sort of technological civilisation with this level of jumping to stupid conclusions.
Benny Russell - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 18:43:46 EST ID:ZBzcw/Bu No.63714 Ignore Report Quick Reply

yeah they had to fudge that so they could bust out the wicked twist ending. that ep is where i first sat up and was like "woah this show is actually really good"
Nurse Jabara - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 03:43:55 EST ID:XFr8qSiV No.63735 Ignore Report Quick Reply
A Klingon idiocracy makes more sense, that helps.
Lt. Talas - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 08:40:57 EST ID:TinR0Zso No.63738 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's something that gets addressed in DS9 as well as demonstrated with the Whorf episodes of TNG but it was even in decline by the time that one good series of enterprise happened.
Nurse Jabara - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 09:37:56 EST ID:XFr8qSiV No.63740 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I haven't finished TNG s2 yet.

>There's a distress signal in the Ficus system!
Don't be alarmed now, it's just a spring-clean for the may queen.
A ficus is a kind of shrub. I find this hard to take seriously.
Major Rakal - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 17:02:20 EST ID:ZBzcw/Bu No.63743 Ignore Report Quick Reply

wow you are watching a show almost 30 years old and you have trouble taking everything in it seriously, no one cares
Nurse Jabara - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 17:18:24 EST ID:XFr8qSiV No.63745 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You're posting on a 12 year old imageboard about a show almost 30 years old in response to me talking about it, you care. You cheeky scamp. Don't you pretend like it's not important to you. Awwww look at his red cheeks.
Major Rakal - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 17:37:03 EST ID:ZBzcw/Bu No.63746 Ignore Report Quick Reply

just... just get past season 2 and it gets a lot better! *hides blushing face*
Jossen - Sun, 11 Feb 2018 05:03:34 EST ID:XFr8qSiV No.63765 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I said I find it hard to take seriously, I didn't say that was a problem.
That episode ended with the implication of some weird Irish peasant-on-space clone polygamous gangbang; I hope the obtuse Stairway reference was on purpose because that would be perfect.
Jossen - Sun, 11 Feb 2018 12:35:15 EST ID:XFr8qSiV No.63772 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>So we could do a proper finale for S2 or... just replay all the footage of Riker getting off with women from the series so far.
>Yes let's do that.
Tora Ziyal - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 05:22:01 EST ID:j0rcL8cb No.63830 Ignore Report Quick Reply





Tora Ziyal - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 06:31:36 EST ID:TinR0Zso No.63832 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah, I feel like S2 hits the high points of TNG in a few episodes but it also repeatedly hits lows which the show would scrape on once or twice per season for the rest of the run.

"Peak performance" might be a mediocre episode by the way but it's also a masterful bit of foreshadowing. Don't forget it.
Dr. Denara Pel - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 10:39:28 EST ID:XFr8qSiV No.63837 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm not skipping any.
The Survivors was fucking great, that really hit the spot for me.
They do seem to run into a lot of godlike beings, more than you'd really expect. Not sure why they didn't ask that one to give the Enterprise some high level buffs though, he seemed cool.
Weyoun 4 - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 10:57:53 EST ID:wxvIFlM0 No.63839 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>So we could do a proper finale for S2
The history of why they had to do the "episode" Shades of Grey (because they weren't allowed to have any writers work on it due to a strike and absolutely had to have one more episode for syndication) and how the confluence of this badness with the release of Final Frontier was nearly the death of the Trek franchise is pretty interesting, if you ever see any of the documentaries about TNG's fucked up production.
Vosk - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 13:40:04 EST ID:XFr8qSiV No.63915 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Is... is this Patrick Stewart in prosthetics?

Thanks, that makes sense. I'll not judge the production team for it so harshly.
Vosk - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 14:54:16 EST ID:XFr8qSiV No.63916 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Romulans are dicks, why do they all look like Hugo Weaving?
Biddle Coleridge - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 17:34:32 EST ID:xA9QpZmq No.63917 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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just finished watching ENT and i was overall pleasantly surprised, thought there was still some big disappointments

i thought the xindi arch was handled pretty poorly for the most part and ending it with a shitty time travel episode made me cringe hard, BUT within season 3 there were many moments where theres an atmosphere of total isolation and desperation that for some reason really resonated with me, especially since i managed to get invested in the charachters

on the subject of characters i was most surprised by best girl t'pol, i expected her to just be a boring tits and ass character which she kind of was but i actually really liked her as a character

id drag my dick through a mile of broken glass to make her smile
Silik - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 17:54:15 EST ID:3laoG0xO No.63918 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Babylon 5 is better time spent than Enterprise. It follows a similar curve, but it also constantly drops world-building and foreshadowing that pays off big time starting around season 3.
Biddle Coleridge - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 18:11:32 EST ID:xA9QpZmq No.63919 Ignore Report Quick Reply
im nearing the end of season 4 of babylon 5 right now and it is indeed an incredible show, only problem is i watched most of season 3/4 at a friends place and was constantly distracted by socializing so i feel like i have to re watch it already
Arne Darvin - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 18:25:19 EST ID:8QVvMsWW No.63920 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Indeed it is.
Commander Sela - Sat, 17 Feb 2018 05:52:15 EST ID:CqzmvBTm No.63943 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I personally thought that B5 had already run it's course and staled out once the shadow wars ended

like everything that happen after that just seem like filler to me

and don't even get me started on crusade
Biddle Coleridge - Sat, 17 Feb 2018 14:18:42 EST ID:qAfEdX/3 No.63945 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It literally did. It got canceled and uncanceled, which seriously fucked up the cadence of the story and the quality of Season 5
Biddle Coleridge - Sat, 17 Feb 2018 14:19:44 EST ID:qAfEdX/3 No.63946 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lol wtf happened? Is this post a ghost?
Biddle Coleridge - Sat, 17 Feb 2018 14:35:22 EST ID:qAfEdX/3 No.63948 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I'm gonna look like a real spammy asshole when the site fixes itself.

But it probably won't so my bet lies hencewards.
Jean-Luc Picard - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 14:19:20 EST ID:XFr8qSiV No.63961 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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This episode is shaping up well.
Major Rakal - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 00:21:10 EST ID:nCcVoj5C No.63968 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>time we spoke about Broccoli
Noonian Soong - Tue, 20 Feb 2018 17:08:23 EST ID:XFr8qSiV No.63970 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I didn't really appreciate it when I first saw/heard this
but after 3 seasons of TNG, he really gets their mannerisms spot on.
Koloth - Wed, 21 Feb 2018 15:48:28 EST ID:XFr8qSiV No.63984 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh shit! The Borg just destroyed 40 galaxy class starships, that is every ship that could be mustered to defend Earth at the time, before being defeated. Just a reminder, tomorrow is bring your parents to work day.
Isn't that a *lot* of ships to lose in one go? Particularly powerful ones, in a strategic defensive position? And they just carry on the next day like it's nothing much, take a holiday, bring Worf's whacky fish out of water parents on board for a tour? I know that Borg cube is gone but what's stopping anyone else from just deciding to take advantage of their weakened state? At the very least they'll need to rethink their command structure to deal with the loss of so many commanding officers. Correct me if I'm wrong but they only seem to take one student into starfleet academy a year or something weird, how can they possibly cope with this?
Koloth - Wed, 21 Feb 2018 16:05:55 EST ID:XFr8qSiV No.63986 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I checked and there are a few La Barre's. Still, this is weird.
Worf - Wed, 21 Feb 2018 17:52:31 EST ID:5VzmgF16 No.63988 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I always figured English ended up becoming the default language of the Federation and Starfleet. JLP speaks with an English accent because of geography. It is not unusual for Europeans to learn English with an English rather than an American/Canadian accent. Which can make for some interesting sounds when a Polish is guy is going "U wot m8?"
DaiMon Birta - Wed, 21 Feb 2018 23:30:06 EST ID:gephjk0M No.64003 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It always struck me that Germans should try for a British accent. It meshes so much better with their natural pronunciation.

But no, American culture dominates. They all pick up American pronunciation from TV/movies and it clashes so much harder.
Corporal Kelly - Mon, 26 Feb 2018 17:29:23 EST ID:XFr8qSiV No.64042 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh shit nigga is that Max headroom from the future?
Morn - Tue, 27 Feb 2018 06:44:17 EST ID:l5TvN503 No.64045 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Especially considering how bored people would be. I bet there'd be all kinds of anachronism and re-enactments going on, just like the kinda stuff they do in the holodeck every now and then.
Thomas Riker - Wed, 28 Feb 2018 09:44:17 EST ID:l5TvN503 No.64048 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Yar god damn right
Thot Pran - Wed, 28 Feb 2018 12:44:40 EST ID:L1oGJlte No.64051 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There was totally a male Tasha Yar on Discovery but I'm pretty sure the black goo monster killed him offscreen because he's gone now.
Or maybe he was just some guy who had business with the captain but got interrupted by some battle and had to stand around and wobble awkwardly on the bridge.

If he comes back and fucks the robot lady, he will truly be carrying the full legacy of Tasha Yar.
Kai Opaka - Mon, 05 Mar 2018 20:12:28 EST ID:mw1AnnTr No.64117 Ignore Report Quick Reply

There was a normal tasha yar, that security chief with resting bitch face that dies in episode 4 (for no reason) and again in the mirror universe (for A reason).

just like tasha.
Leck - Fri, 23 Mar 2018 16:32:12 EST ID:KjBqUFi6 No.64204 Ignore Report Quick Reply
watched all the seasons of DS9 except last 2 as they aired.. waited all these yearse.. finally seeing last 2... last two are the shittest... now I understand why this is no one's favourite series VIC who the fuck is vic and WHY DO WE LISTEN TO HIM SING ENTIRE SONGS ALL THE TIME!?
Nava - Sun, 25 Mar 2018 21:20:42 EST ID:kIEweuhE No.64217 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>feel a hankering for some comfy tng
>watch 402, family
>then the rest of s4-s7
>then s1-s4
>family again ALREADY
ds9 again? Then voy, ent? I can rule out std at least.

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