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You want the site to get back to the good ol days? by Isabella Clonnershit - Sat, 13 May 2017 23:16:28 EST ID:gjq7DcsT No.236758 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I've been hearing how some of you guy's have become disillusioned with the site, so I'd thought I would just throw my 2 cents in. I think it has alot to do with with an aging user base and a lack of genuine new blood coming to the site.

Anyway one solution I can think of is advertising. No I don't mean taking an ad out somewhere, I mean things like paying a bunch of street kids to go graffiti 420chan.org around the city, or making stickers and posting them to bathroom stalls... that sort of thing... getting the word out to the kind of folk we used to be you know?

Don't expect you to take this seriously but what the hell, it's a thought.

If I ever make it as a writer or something other than a burnout I'd definitely use the publicity to advertise the site just cuz I still love you guys. :)

Ever hear of any celebrities who know about it? maybe they could be convinced to put a good word out?
Basil Brommerkire - Sat, 13 May 2017 23:21:29 EST ID:t1UJNeC2 No.236760 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>how about we flood the site with a bunch of normies and 18 yo seniors
Isabella Clonnershit - Sat, 13 May 2017 23:34:42 EST ID:gjq7DcsT No.236761 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Back in the day there was never even a distinction between "normies" and not. Back in the day we were mostly just a bunch of 18 year old seniors anyway. The style of the site doesn't appeal to the mainstream in the first place, so by infusing the place with a dose of the mainstream would naturally weed out those whom the site appeals to in the first place.

I tell you what, when I eventually go to Shambhala I'll definitely be trying to get the new stoner blood on board, I think it's needed.
Basil Brommerkire - Sat, 13 May 2017 23:59:17 EST ID:t1UJNeC2 No.236763 Ignore Report Quick Reply

fair points i guess. the site does feel rather slow and dead which makes the regulars act like bored assholes. /woo/ and /h/ dont count.
Wesley Shittingdale - Sun, 14 May 2017 07:06:02 EST ID:QCkzL9Lf No.236775 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Honestly i feel that new people coming to the site may of scared away some of the older people in that, if they are 30 why would they want to spend their time talking to 18 year old know-it-alls about topics they barely understand? Those 18 year olds do psychedelics and therefore know the intricacies of the world and philosophy just because.

Its not that im against new people, its a culture it evolves and changes and morphs into something else over time, its inevitable, i think the goal should be retaining people who come here on a whim.

I dunno, places like this are like countries for the mind, there is always going to be fear that your country is going to be overrun by people with a different culture, i think if our culture is going to survive it needs to evolve to bring out the best out of the new users culture which enriches our culture but at the same time keeps to its traditions and remains a home to the older users.
Nathaniel Ficklestudging - Sun, 14 May 2017 09:16:42 EST ID:fJyljMo4 No.236776 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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100% this, I've just returned to 420chan after a 3 year hiatus. When I used to come here i'd spend a lot of time on the drug boards however every time i go there now i grow frustrated by people who are blatantly underage or young and dumb who post about things they barely understand.
Nathaniel Ficklestudging - Sun, 14 May 2017 10:05:20 EST ID:fJyljMo4 No.236778 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Just to add: this is because i've lost patience over the years and if you apply this to the mods, i'm sure they have a lot less patience than me, seeing the same shit daily for years and years surely makes you sick.

I think you'd get sick of a userbase anyway if you were a mod cause you're going to see a lot more shitposts than normal, all the more reason to try out a few new mods.
Doris Smallford - Sun, 14 May 2017 10:50:35 EST ID:4WbBmFSv No.236781 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Not to mention that the shitposters will get all salty about being banned and give mods constant shit about it.
Isabella Clonnershit - Sun, 14 May 2017 15:02:09 EST ID:gjq7DcsT No.236789 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>I dunno, places like this are like countries for the mind, there is always going to be fear that your country is going to be overrun by people with a different culture, i think if our culture is going to survive it needs to evolve to bring out the best out of the new users culture which enriches our culture but at the same time keeps to its traditions and remains a home to the older users.

Really well put.

You know I didn't even think about the drug boards, I never really visited them anyway so I just completely forgot they existed. =/
Nathaniel Ficklestudging - Sun, 14 May 2017 15:23:23 EST ID:fJyljMo4 No.236790 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Drug boards are a big problem in my opinion, when i was younger on this site i didn't know a whole lot about drugs and thus a lot of shitposts or wrong stuff went completely over my head and the things that i knew were wrong (which increased as i learned more) were easily tolerable because most of them were quite new things also the boards seemed to mature a bit together and the number of people who didn't know a certain thing decreased.
Over time though information is lost as the older people move on and the constant influx of new people need to learn. So when i've returned and over the years grown tired of these ignorant posts it's hard to reintegrate into those boards.

I know this is all common sense but i think with age and time spent on those boards it's impossible not to feel a sense of disdain.
Frederick Dozzlebeck - Sun, 14 May 2017 15:25:53 EST ID:utmarCd8 No.236791 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm a mod/2nd in command on a different imageboard with something like 2000 (and growing pretty quickly!) or so users, with maybe half that regulars. I haven't even been doing it for more than a couple of months, but already I have a newfound respect for moderators everywhere. Our topic is pretty niche and not very conducive to shitposting, yet it's still incredibly difficult to deal with the huge number of idiots, trolls, users with a vendetta, pointless drama and other flame war bullshit, shitposters, and very much etc. I honestly could not even imagine trying to moderate /b/, or any random board. 420chan, too, seems like it's in a difficult spot, considering the topics, as well as the underage issue. I'm not entirely sure of the point I'm trying to make here lol, but I basically just want to voice my agreement with the frustration that the mods must face, but also to ask everyone to keep this in mind so that they can treat the mods with as much respect and kindness as possible, on top of letting them know how much you appreciate them and all of their hard (and in the vast majority of cases unpaid, and untrained) work. So yeah, thanks mods/admin/staff, if you happen to read this lol. I genuinely do very much appreciate everything that you do!
Isabella Clonnershit - Sun, 14 May 2017 15:45:21 EST ID:gjq7DcsT No.236792 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that one of the reasons I think a dose of mainstream would be good for the site is because alot of the "new users" which may have driven off old-timers came from places like the stormfront. Not exactly the kind of new-folk we would want in the first-place.
Beatrice Bagglebere - Sun, 14 May 2017 15:58:19 EST ID:bcEUl6UM No.236793 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Most of the 420chan veteran userbase is now a out 30. I am 31, and I cannot stand a younger base and it's not because they are young. They just tend to talk a lot of shit.
Nathaniel Ficklestudging - Sun, 14 May 2017 16:07:24 EST ID:fJyljMo4 No.236794 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Kind of tying in with my previous posts, I think that maybe it's not because of the change in users it's that we're all older and have less of a capacity to tolerate shit. I mean at one time we all used to like stuff we would hate now, in all areas of life, then you grow out of it but you can still put up with it and then eventually you reach a point where you just can't be bothered to deal with it.

Although i wholeheartedly think that 420chan is on a downtick in quality ,I can't say for certain that it's not just me looking back with nostalgia cause i'm pretty sure 420chan always had some pretty shit content and users.

I also remember many times in the past where people complained about the quality of 420chan and then those complaints eventually dissapeared (can't say if it's because users left or if the content got better) and there were times the mods were bitched at for not doing a good enough job, although they do seem particularly absent this time.

This will all blow over eventually.
Nathaniel Ficklestudging - Sun, 14 May 2017 17:10:59 EST ID:fJyljMo4 No.236795 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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mods are getting active on /b/ right now
Augustus Purringbotch - Sun, 14 May 2017 17:43:21 EST ID:pk1lhlAu No.236796 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Wonder if any of you guys were using forums/boards and shit at like 13-14 back in the days of web 1.0.

It is just a cycle.

>Site is birthed.
>Moderate growth for 2-3 years.
>It either dies or it explodes.
>The old hands form a tight knit circle jerk. Many leave with the influx of new people.
>It holds at a high for an amount of time.
>Then it starts to taper off as many leave to newer pastures, get fed up, or just lose interest.
>Then you are left in limbo at a stage between death and height where the operators and "oldfags" grate against the "newfags" who actually have been here for 2-3 years. Everyone doesn't know anything different so they all slowly hold the same ground while both sides slowly lose people until the place can't fund itself and it dies.

Basically, every bbs board has went this way. There are a few like bodybuilder.com or whatever where there are still tons of users but most consist of 100 old farts who hate all outsiders or are just dead and maybe archived.

420chan just has a niche. If it wasn't for the content the site is based around and having no competition, it would be dead like all those other chanology projects. What chans are even left aside from niche chans? You have languagechans, 2ch, 4chimps, 420chan, and a bunch of jb/porn chans probably floating around out there.

Chans as a whole don't even serve the general populace either. You have no status or rank here. You're no more important than anyone else. Everyone wants a post count, a like button and rep. Topics die fast, discussions are done at the moment and there is a mountain of "morally reprehensible" shit going on. It is a format for outcasts and creeps. If it wasn't for said losers inability to fit in, there wouldn't even be a consistent userbase.

I also don't think underage is a problem much here. I don't use the drug boards but on the other parts of the site, most just seem to be a vocal 17-20 year old sect. A large selection of college kids from 20-24ish and then the small minority of people who are 30 and came up with 420chan. I personally don't feel that there is much of a grind between users age. More that it is basically everyone who is here has grown up around chans and is just tired of seeing the same shit. Basically everyone here is a previous user of the future who couldn't fit in with the true underage crowd. Even the OG niggas. Barely anyone that comes here that is "new" won't have already been around chan culture for years on end.

/rambling mess
Nathaniel Ficklestudging - Sun, 14 May 2017 17:58:31 EST ID:fJyljMo4 No.236797 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>You have no status or rank here. You're no more important than anyone else. Everyone wants a post count, a like button and rep
I don't want to believe that everyone wants to have a post count, anonymity is what's attractive about a chan it's why I like it here and i'm sure a fair few people think the same way i just think chans serve content that isn't very mainstream

>I also don't think underage is a problem much here.
Underage has always been a problem here, go look at /dis/ and /other/, sometimes you'll see them on other boards too (like hiding in benezedrex threads on /stim/). I don't hold anything against those boards and i do scroll through once in a while but they do seem to have a lot of underage or at least very stupid individuals posting there.

I do think you're right about people saying people are new where those "new" people have been here for years, i think sometimes it's justified but it creates a culture where it's common to call someone out for being new so every time someone makes a little mistake or posts a comment not well received they get accused of being new.

And as for telling people to go back to 4chins, do people even come here from there anymore?
Nathaniel Ficklestudging - Sun, 14 May 2017 18:08:55 EST ID:fJyljMo4 No.236798 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Anyway in response to the OP marketing 420chan is a terrible idea in my opinion, attracting so many new people will surely cause a culture shock great enough to get most of the 420chan veterans to leave. Imagine one day you come to 420chan and check the boards to see loads of threads posted in the wrong places and shitty memes and unfunny jokes plastered throughout all the threads.

Sure this might be okay for the survival of 420chan as a website but I think it would permanently change the content. I have nothing against new people coming, i just think that the new guys finding the site by themselves or being directed from some other site will probably be better people to have on the board than some guy who saw a sticker in the street.

nb double post
Augustus Purringbotch - Sun, 14 May 2017 19:05:17 EST ID:pk1lhlAu No.236799 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Leaving the future for here

I left the future because of the /pol/ shit. I was basically at ground zero when it first arose when moot brought back /news/ and turned it into /pol/. Within a couple of months of /pol/ being a thing, a couple Jew jokes turned the entire place into Stormfront. I think /new/ was rebranded and introduced in 2011 so I've been away from the future for 6 years and was using boards here before I left the future.

I used to hang around on /g/ /3d/ /tv/ and a couple other boards. I mean, there was a point when the future was a decent place to hang out. I'm sure there are still boards that are too specific and slow to attract the typical the future crowd. I'm sure /3d/ is probably still usable and the drawing boards may still be functional.

Overall though, the concept of the future is appealing to plenty of people. You have a somewhat anonymous userbase, content stays relatively fresh. You don't have to worry about anything you say and can vent or be devil's advocate without cause of fear. You don't log in and tyrant 10k post forum members can't get you banned just for some anti-popularity contest. Chans as a whole are a great place to be if you were the outcast in real life.

Hell, 10 years ago, weed was heavily stigmatized. If you smoked weed, you were just some burnout loser godless heathen with only the goths, skaters, and stoners as your friends in school. I'm sure most of the people who started this board came up before the "dude weed lmao" crowd and middle class housewives who don't even know what dope smells like; posting on Facebook about making pot brownies or whatever retarded shit.

So you get outcasts looking for refuge and a place to discuss their abnormal interests but the future is basically useless with most of their boards being impossible to deal with. So they either stop caring about that hobby or they look elsewhere. I wanted to discuss video games but the future's /vg/ was always horrible so I came here ages ago to do that. When basically every the future board became /pol/shit I came here because you literally could not post a single fucking word without someone saying, "Nice try JIDF." I bet it is still the same. If not worse.
Nathaniel Ficklestudging - Sun, 14 May 2017 19:24:19 EST ID:fJyljMo4 No.236801 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Yeah I got that people did come from there, I just don't think it's much of a problem anymore. A lot of people on this site probably came from 4skin but they've integrated by now plus the boards that produce the worst people at 4chunare probably completely unusable now and would be so different from 420chan that not many at all would come here from those 4cunt boards these days.
I just don't see 4chums coming here as as much of a problem as it used to be, i don't think we get that many coming here from there anymore and i think the ones that do probably would come from some of the slower boards less associated with whatever unwanted shit they do over there.

And yeah maybe you have a point with outcasts coming to chans
Matilda Goodshit - Sun, 14 May 2017 20:36:22 EST ID:QCkzL9Lf No.236803 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I also think that the demographics of the future have changed as well so users coming from there are not like the users coming from there in 2010.

i mean when i started going to university all the 17 year olds do is talk about memes and internet culture shit, seriously a guy added me and all he does is share memes on facebook tagging his friends, where when i was 17 if i talked about any meme people would look at me strangely.

The internet has changed and a lot, more people are engaged in internet culture and we need to ask ourselves how we can attract the right people to immigrate here. Much like europe we need to import a userbase, but how do we do this?

All i can tell you is, im going to try and change my actions to try and retain some of the newer users on some of the boards i go on and hope that some of the nostaligic older users who come back find themselves at home.
Isabella Hovingtirk - Sun, 14 May 2017 21:30:27 EST ID:fJyljMo4 No.236804 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You raise an interesting point about how memes are shared all over facebook these days and how most of us here talking about memes way back when would cause some strange looks.

I think we desperately need to avoid these people on this site, i mean i thought memes were super cool when i was younger but i feel like this site has matured a bit since that phase, yeah we post memes but it's not a constant barrage of memes and even if it is the majority are either current, funny or used in the right context and if not they quickly die out or the post is ignored.

I don't think there is a set way to get cool new people to this site and retain them, i think they'll come of their own accord.

What do you mean by changing you actions? Not calling people out for being new?
Nigel Wasslestet - Sun, 14 May 2017 21:35:37 EST ID:BXgU/guY No.236805 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ugh, all these fucking "writers" on 420chan, no wonder everyone is so pretentious.
Isabella Hovingtirk - Sun, 14 May 2017 22:05:26 EST ID:fJyljMo4 No.236807 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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writers? if you mean long posts why don't you just hide the thread? People like to talk.

Maybe this image is more your speed?
Cyril Savinghare - Sun, 14 May 2017 22:09:54 EST ID:pk1lhlAu No.236808 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>When you remember the days when meme spouting was cancerous and annoying as all fuck and now you literally can't even go out in public without some retard using memespeak.
Nigel Wasslestet - Sun, 14 May 2017 22:17:52 EST ID:BXgU/guY No.236809 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OP literally said he was a writer, and we have had people shill their crappy books multiple times (one was even a mod).
Isabella Hovingtirk - Sun, 14 May 2017 22:24:09 EST ID:fJyljMo4 No.236811 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Oh well shit sorry man. Here's a cat.
Matilda Goodshit - Sun, 14 May 2017 22:49:50 EST ID:QCkzL9Lf No.236812 Ignore Report Quick Reply

yeah i know right?! i feel so old!
Cyril Savinghare - Mon, 15 May 2017 02:09:09 EST ID:pk1lhlAu No.236819 Ignore Report Quick Reply
We should probably just kill ourselves already. Who are we even kidding at this point?
Matilda Goodshit - Mon, 15 May 2017 03:21:42 EST ID:QCkzL9Lf No.236822 Ignore Report Quick Reply
nah, part of growing up tbh, no reason to kill yourself. Also, if you are thinking about suicide please ask someone for help! people love you and would miss you!
Caroline Fuvingletch - Mon, 15 May 2017 22:01:35 EST ID:xoQQ/qF+ No.236858 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why did I make all of these posts?

420chsn is literally just me. I'm the only person who posts anything.

Man this board always weirds me out the most
Isabella Hozzlewill - Tue, 16 May 2017 13:44:14 EST ID:ATcjmra3 No.236883 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>when i started going to university all the 17 year olds do is talk about memes and internet culture shit
17 year olds go to college in america?
Rebecca Millerstan - Tue, 16 May 2017 13:58:55 EST ID:t1UJNeC2 No.236884 Ignore Report Quick Reply

you can take SAT at about 16 and apply to a college. not many do that though so hes pulling "all the" out of his ass.
Rebecca Fundlewet - Tue, 16 May 2017 15:22:52 EST ID:z+o+RB0h No.236885 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>the good ol days?
"The good ol days" is a weasel term. If you are making the arguments that
There was a "good ol days"
We should return to it
Go to archive.org
Take screengrabs of various boards, each year, from the beginning of the site to this day
Post them here directly, or post them on imgur and share the link
Thomas Honeylock - Tue, 16 May 2017 16:24:53 EST ID:fJyljMo4 No.236891 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Oliver Cankinson - Tue, 16 May 2017 18:18:11 EST ID:QCkzL9Lf No.236895 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not everyone on the internet is american, but anyways, in australia you can be at university when you are 17 because you havent yet turned 18.
William Gimbleford - Wed, 17 May 2017 01:37:08 EST ID:gjq7DcsT No.236905 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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...I was using colorful language to evoke nostalgia towards mods who might be bitter...
Nigel Blackway - Wed, 17 May 2017 05:35:16 EST ID:FeMhPDZ+ No.236909 Ignore Report Quick Reply
but this is our special secret club.
Augustus Bocklechack - Wed, 17 May 2017 16:38:45 EST ID:sm37rhas No.236911 Ignore Report Quick Reply
no its not its a chan it should fall in line with other chans you xenophobe
Alice Buzzville - Wed, 17 May 2017 23:05:52 EST ID:HPRs79r2 No.236918 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Current Users:49,226

>No one posting, all boards slower than molasses

Barnaby Tillingworth - Thu, 18 May 2017 00:29:37 EST ID:t1UJNeC2 No.236919 Ignore Report Quick Reply

most are in /woo/ and /loli/
Fucking Dirringway - Thu, 18 May 2017 03:27:40 EST ID:QCkzL9Lf No.236921 Ignore Report Quick Reply

The number never goes down, or it rarely does, i think think that current users means current ID's ie, ids that have been assigned to an ip.
Albert Turveyham - Thu, 18 May 2017 10:30:56 EST ID:7hJihqzw No.236923 Ignore Report Quick Reply
dono how it's calculated but it does go both up and down regularly.

the fact that 420chan overall is growing is also evident elsewhere such as alexa and google analytics.

"420chan is dying" is usually just a retarded attempt to justify shitposting by shitposters, the argument being that not allowing their shitposting (which they will usually try to identify as a "meaningful/constructive discussion" when we all clearly know it's not) has a chilling effect on posting behavior (it doesn't).

what you we don't know though is how each board's population has changed over the years. we don't have those stats. would be nice if kirtypoo posted them. shitposters who are aware of the fact that the site isn't actually dying will sometimes try to argue it's all just /wooo/ and /hentai/ now. i mean i'm sure they still make up a significant chunk of the site's user hase as thry always have (kirt's posted snapshots of the user breakdown before), but how it's changed ee don't know.
Phyllis Dracklefield - Thu, 18 May 2017 10:46:30 EST ID:OCBrqpYU No.236925 Ignore Report Quick Reply
420chan is literally about 100 people if you don't take into account /pol/ refugees, /wooo/ and /h/. Probably like 20 devoted people if you remove the drug boards. I know because I recognize about half of the users typing style.
Fucking Tillingville - Thu, 18 May 2017 12:45:43 EST ID:7mDMUbs5 No.236928 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This is number seems pretty accurate actually. Haha, I browse here all day eerrday. Even during work. Mostly a lurker now a days.
Nigel Sondleshaw - Thu, 18 May 2017 13:05:39 EST ID:C6/qs4GI No.236929 Ignore Report Quick Reply

There's users I definitely recognise from time to time. Like Sicily guy.

I'd probably say 100 users make sense but 20 without drug boards? Unless you're discounting drug board posters who also post on non drug board users when you do that I'd say not. There not 20 individuals between all the non drug boards. There's definitely more of the same people than we realise having different conversations as if we're different people though.

There's a tonne of lurkers, I remember years ago that about 1% of users actually post. I suspect that's not changed much.
Ian Nicklebanks - Fri, 19 May 2017 03:25:13 EST ID:fJyljMo4 No.236938 Ignore Report Quick Reply
hey i might start compiling a log of all the IDs and guess at their age based on posts to get some stats, see you guys in a few years
Edwin Havingburk - Mon, 05 Jun 2017 11:11:28 EST ID:o/XJWCIg No.237326 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think this sort of thing should really be handled by the oldfags actually doing something. if every 30~ year old went out and showed some 20 year old this site by figuring out if they're worth showing it to in the first place it would have less of a toll on the site it self trying to self moderate. I dunno lol, i'm just a lurker
William Crucklewater - Mon, 05 Jun 2017 14:37:55 EST ID:zF6GxLAS No.237328 Ignore Report Quick Reply
People don't show each other websites irl.
Edward Sebblespear - Mon, 05 Jun 2017 14:55:50 EST ID:0J2/TVYA No.237330 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm 30 and everyone I know who would have a positive impact already has their own community of choice. The youngins I know would either be thoroughly disgusted by the site or would make it worse.

Inviting friends is how a lot of sites die. The friends of the cool guys are fine. They however don't get the community as well and don't invite as wisely. Then their friends come and they're still alright but they're out their depth. If they decide to invite friends though it starts to spiral quickly. You'd need to make sure you can trust any inductees to not bring any one else along for a few months maybe even years.
Martha Borringfoot - Mon, 05 Jun 2017 14:59:28 EST ID:4WHP9U74 No.237331 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think the problem is the opposite. We have a bunch of retards from the future's /pol/ coming here spewing hateful shit. They even make antidrug posts, not as a purposeful crusade, just in passing when the topic comes up. It's getting to the point where I'm considering leaving the site. I'm sure a lot of other people who have been using this site for a while have already left because of the decidedly unchill vibes the new people are bringing along. I expect things to just get worse and worse.
Martin Huckleket - Mon, 05 Jun 2017 16:48:24 EST ID:gXVDtRcL No.237333 Ignore Report Quick Reply
/wooo/'s been pretty anti drug for years
I blame /wooo/'s transition from a gaggle of drunkards and stoners who like wrasslin to A Wrestling Community Online for much of the site's ills.

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