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What's the deal with Goldfish? by Edward Fendlesone - Wed, 09 Aug 2017 14:02:01 EST ID:7m/mDrzW No.33467 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So it's been a decade or more since I kept pet fish, and lately I've been thinking about getting a goldfish, and in doing so I wanted to get the classic goldfish bowl that every 8 year old kid had next to their bed growing up. Pic related.

But doing research online, there seems to be a lot of passionate, vocal goldfish advocates who would like to see me lynched for even considering putting a goldfish in a bowl. According to these folks, a single goldfish requires a minimum of 30 gallons and that's because my goldfish will grow to be bigger than a hamster and live for 15 years.

Now, if what they're saying is true, fuck it, I won't get a goldfish. But I wanted to make this thread and see if anyone here has some experience with goldfish and can confirm/deny these things. Maybe you can recommend me another small fish I can keep in a bowl that won't live longer than my cat.
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Ian Gidgecocke - Sun, 13 Aug 2017 06:33:23 EST ID:GbtEKK4D No.33474 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>33467
If you don't fuck it up goldfish grow pretty big. Surely you've seen them in a pond? Or used google.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goldfish#Size
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Cyril Fanwater - Mon, 14 Aug 2017 03:26:53 EST ID:Bm3ARPcG No.33475 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>33467
Personally im not a fan of the idea of one fish in a bowl its whole life. Thats like spending your whole life in your room. With just a rock and some pebbles. Alone. I mean its just a dumb fish it doesnt know any different but its an animal thats made to swim around in the ocean, with currents and schools of other fish and stuff. At least get him a buddy and maybe some caves. Extra points for switching up the caves and rocks and stuff every so often to switch things up. I had a lizard and thats what i did, he was pretty stoked when i went to put him back in his box and he had new rocks and toys and stuff to hang out on.
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Betsy Sarrysog - Mon, 14 Aug 2017 08:51:08 EST ID:rvdTwBAl No.33477 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>33475
>its an animal thats made to swim around in the ocean
Now I'm no goldfish scientist, but goldfish are freshwater fishies.
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Ernest Hellerpick - Mon, 14 Aug 2017 16:07:53 EST ID:7m/mDrzW No.33479 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>33475

I could get two but that's make a bowl even smaller. Idk. This shit is annoying me, I don't want to abuse goldfish but I feel like people are treating goldfish like humans in terms of needs and that's dumb.

Most fish live in featureless abysses. Pic related. When your entire life consists of this view, and it never changes, since when does a bowl become mental torture? I think fish's brains are accustomed to the monotony of living underwater, and thus the monotony of a bowl wouldn't be too taxing.

And ya I guess they can get big, but it's 2017, they haven't genetically engineered goldfish that stay the same size? We got dogs that never grow past the size of puppies, but we can't stop a goldfish from needing a bathtub?
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Polly Duckspear - Mon, 14 Aug 2017 23:36:27 EST ID:Bm3ARPcG No.33480 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>33477
My point stands
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John Guttingnat - Wed, 16 Aug 2017 20:42:16 EST ID:WvwyawWd No.33482 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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What about a Siamese fighting fish? Then you don't have to worry about getting him a buddy (since they'd most likely kill each other), and you wouldn't need an enormous tank - provided it's not absolutely minuscule like the dish they typically come in from the pet store.

As long as you add some habitat for him to call home, a bowl or tank that holds 5 gallons of water could suffice.
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Molly Hankincocke - Sat, 19 Aug 2017 01:32:03 EST ID:7m/mDrzW No.33484 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>33482

Is that just fancy talk for a beta fish? I guess that's a possibility. They're prettier than goldfish too, it's something to consider.
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Wesley Nippernedge - Sat, 19 Aug 2017 04:03:38 EST ID:WvwyawWd No.33485 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>33484
Well, though it's purely semantics, if we're going to get technical I'd venture "Betta splendens" is far fancier than "Siamese fighting fish."

Also, calling this fish a Betta would be analogous to calling you a Homo ;)
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Doris Blythespear - Sat, 19 Aug 2017 23:06:53 EST ID:nyu1BU/H No.33486 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>33484
No. This is a fighting fish
That makes it an alpha fish
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Phineas Peckleheg - Mon, 21 Aug 2017 16:48:07 EST ID:NPXAW1u2 No.33491 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why not minnows or guppies? They breed like crazy and could make it in a bowl with an airstone in it with frequent water changes.
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Nell Chaddleman - Tue, 22 Aug 2017 08:00:53 EST ID:WsmoR8HX No.33492 Ignore Report Quick Reply
why do you even want a fish?
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Alice Chemmerdotch - Thu, 24 Aug 2017 20:45:32 EST ID:GQne35e+ No.33495 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>33492
yeah I mean you could pick an animal that shares our atmosphere, at least.
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Charlotte Hidgewirk - Mon, 04 Sep 2017 07:30:34 EST ID:xRjZ2mQW No.33511 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>33492

Because they're nice to look at. Put it next to my bad and fall asleep watching it instead of a TV.
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Molly Mimblestock - Tue, 05 Sep 2017 15:10:24 EST ID:skSGJ+ZZ No.33512 Ignore Report Quick Reply
hate these little orange lesbians
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Thomas Bummerted - Thu, 07 Sep 2017 20:44:24 EST ID:EuIg1q6R No.33515 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>33511

dog is nice to look at and has potential to be useful in numerous ways, unlike a fish
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Hannah Hicklenock - Fri, 08 Sep 2017 18:02:53 EST ID:5Ikh7JvR No.33516 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>33484

If you decide to get a betta, which I have had a few, I would recommend a 10 gallon tank. It sounds like a lot to a beginner but the foot print of the tank is pretty small. Also the smaller amount of water that you have, the harder it is to keep clean. think of it like, less water = higher fish fish waste to water ratio.

with a ten gallon you could also get like 6 neon tetras. In my experience most bettas do well with small tetras if the tetras were introduced to the tank before the betta.

pic is my tank, a 5.5g with a betta and 4 neon tetras
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Lillian Sillybit - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 16:54:33 EST ID:lPZSuzwJ No.33532 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Goldfish are great outdoor fish. They get big and they shit a lot. If you get a plastic pool and a pond pump you can make a bog filter that will cycle the water and take the fish shit out of the water. You can just cut cucumbers into quarters and they will eat them. That and any aquatic plants you have.

Fighting fish are really good small tank fish but you do need a filter or you will have to change the water every day. They shit just as much if not more than gold fish relative to their size and they don't eat pond scum. The fancier ones are susceptible to fin rot in poor quality water, not only does it look shitty but it's painful for the fish. If you want one get a 5 gallon tank with a small filter for the least maintenance.

If you just want a bowl without a filter I recommend cherry shrimp. They are low maintenance and don't require a filter plus they are bright and pretty. You can throw some moss, sand and aquatic plants in there and it will look nice.
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Nathaniel Biggledock - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 15:44:26 EST ID:lPZSuzwJ No.33580 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>33532
I just upgraded from a pool to a stock tank and moved all the shit in for winter. I'm going to get some more plants in the bog filter. There are 5 large calico goldfish in here and a large weather loach. The orange parts of the goldfish pop under the light, I like my fish to pop.
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Nathaniel Biggledock - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 15:45:24 EST ID:lPZSuzwJ No.33581 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>33580
I didn't mean to upload that one upside down, sorry guys.


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