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No Will for Art Anymore by Ebenezer Goffingwat - Tue, 11 Oct 2016 01:43:53 EST ID:KTxv2w4W No.51199 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Sorry if this is more for /qq/. I posted this on Fourchan's /ic/ board a few months ago, wanted to see what you guys thought.

Does anyone else feel a major stiffness when they draw? Like your hand feels all rigid and everything you draw seems so bland, stiff and lifeless?

I've been drawing since I was three, so I'm not some naive yuppie tool who got into art because it's some "novel pursuit of the free and simple-minded" or whatever. The happiest time I ever had being an artist was when I was 17 and I took a Commercial Art vocational class, and for the first time, I felt like I was improving and making waves in my work. I learned so many things that I just couldn't in regular HS classes. Then when I was 19, I went to art college. Dropped out after two years for multiple reasons with the school. Other colleges were too expensive.

Problem is, ever since I started art college six years ago, though I practice, I never feel the passion anymore, unless I'm making something dirty, and even then those don't go beyond pencil sketches. It's just not fun anymore.

I'm still learning, as all artists do, but I just no longer have the passion inside me. Sometimes I can make a rare good practice sketch, I have trouble with even simple doodles. I don't even have the willpower to draw porn anymore.

I want to feel the same "freedom" and "freedom of spirit" I had when I was a kid and that I see all of my art friends and many other great artists have. I just get so hesitant and so intimidated. I can't even color for god's sake. Is it because I think of art as a career or a job, now?

Maybe I have depression? Maybe I have OCD? I do have legit diagnosed autism, though, and am a bit of a perfectionist when it comes to work.
Fanny Dadgeworth - Tue, 11 Oct 2016 01:57:52 EST ID:4exXa1Qe No.51200 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Take LSD
Charles Cracklefock - Tue, 11 Oct 2016 03:58:07 EST ID:zJ9QYZUz No.51201 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I can relate somewhat OP. Art schools tend to rip the creativity out of it, rather than having fun they make it into more of calculated approach to art.

Just... start challenging yourself. for real, try drawing something you know you cant draw. if you normally use references, dont. if you dont, do. Just do a few artworks where its totally new for you again. if you use pen and paper, use a computer visa versa etc.

Art is a relationship between an artist and their materials, sometimes you need to go sleep with some drunk girl at a club to realise how good your wife at home is.
Im not saying never draw again, drawing is the most foundational skill in all of art. i think you're just at that point where you might need to expand your horizons. New Materials, new forms, new compositions, new everything. try not to do anything like your drawings.

Switch it up. thats my advice. i wish you luck. i hope you find your flame again.

---just me rambling from here ---

Ive attached is a painting i did when i got to where you are. I hate everything about this painting and yet at the same time, its the most motivational artwork ive ever done and it hangs at the end of my bed.
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Whatever by Moxazza - Sun, 02 Oct 2016 08:23:01 EST ID:2rj44+TF No.51168 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like? You've got to be kidding me. I've been further even more decided to use even go need to do look more as anyone can. Can you really be far even as decided half as much to use go wish for that?
Sophie Ciblinghot - Sun, 02 Oct 2016 08:41:32 EST ID:zJ9QYZUz No.51169 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Love it op.
its old but its still such a brialliant piece of art, probably best for /lit though.

But still you need to admire the slippage it causes, with its seemling sense making and yet being non sensicle, its almostlike the ying yang clashing in the moment and its such a compulsive read, because you know that its just some guy copy and pasting a thing for whatever his motives are, but its still such a brialliant artwork because that slippage really fucks with you.

about the picture though, i like it! lovely eyes! they look dilated, are you high op? because if you are i am the police and i know where you live and am putting you on a list (its only a joke bart! :p).

But nah good on you OP! keep up the great work.
Moxazza - Sun, 02 Oct 2016 10:08:09 EST ID:2rj44+TF No.51171 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I was flying high on speed at the time that photo was taken yes, good eye.
Never go into has if not have without.

Digital Painting by Edward Brebbersetch - Wed, 17 Aug 2016 19:30:02 EST ID:ZJGWdIz2 No.50938 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Okay lets face it material can be expensive, paint,canvass. Painting also is not always the cleanest process. So I've taken an interest in digital drawing, because well painting with oil,acrylic, watercolor does have its downsides.

But not really knowing what I need to do to get started with digital art. I'm sort of at a loss. I already know that I need a computer with a graphics card, and a wacom tablet with illustrator installed. But is there anything else I need besides talent?
Tex - Wed, 17 Aug 2016 19:49:41 EST ID:5iLjmHlh No.50939 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>anything else I need besides talent?
contacting the wicked has proven fruitful for many a graphic designer.
letting go of control of your life to the damned will provide a needed illness to your designs.
but ultimately it is of course all up to the dark one.
Frederick Bruckleford - Wed, 17 Aug 2016 22:56:47 EST ID:zJ9QYZUz No.50941 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Software op!
The program you use is your new "material" so whatever program you buy (or download) explore it and explore all its features.
I dont do digital art, but i know that the program you use is very important for this its like the difference between using amateur level acrylics and professional oils.
Like always start off with acrylics and work your way up to oils, fully explore the program and learn everything you can do with it then move on to the next level up, then repeat and then repeat etc.

All the best :) cant wait to see your work.
Cedric Fivingfig - Thu, 18 Aug 2016 01:26:48 EST ID:ZJGWdIz2 No.50942 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Well right now I'm doing a tribute to an Armenian who I knew. He ripped out his eye, so I figured he deserved mentioned in the annals of art history. Also I'm not a graphic designer I'm a fine artist. So the sickness is there, because I knew a guy before he ripped out his eye and after he ripped out his eye.
Emma Farringstere - Fri, 02 Sep 2016 20:24:06 EST ID:eSD8tHDg No.51010 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Was the Armenian also an artist? Post your tribute to him here and give us his name.
Frederick Fuckingforth - Fri, 23 Sep 2016 13:43:20 EST ID:Z6OazoT9 No.51137 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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There is a wide variety of software you can use in digital painting. The first natural pick would be Adobe Photoshop, however there are more applications, which in spectrum of pure drawing/painting capabilities may be on par with PS, and unlike it they are free. The examples of such software would be Gimp (however I've never took it for a longer ride) and Krita, which I find to be a great piece of free software (there is also a paid version). It has some degree of a learning curve and you have to do some initial configuration of the tools you'll be using. Other than that, I've had a great time with it. Also, provided you have Java installed, you can check out some online painting tools used to paint oekaki.

Picture related, it's an oekaki painting I've done a while ago.

Art movements? by Angus Bicklewin - Mon, 05 Sep 2016 01:56:11 EST ID:zJ9QYZUz No.51021 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Who wants to talk about art movements including contemporary movements?

Dada is my fave movement at the moment.
The "anything is art" people where they disliked all that art had to offer and effectively joined the moment to destroy it from within.
Started by Hugo Ball and Emmy Hennings at the Cabaret Voltaire in Switzerland, Ball having escaped war needed money for him and wife so they could eat, so he went to a bar and started the cabaret Voltaire which drew on philosophical concepts put in place by Voltaire the french philosopher.
The Cabaret Voltaire was a Cabaret where artists mostly displaced by war would conjugate and perform their art and talk about art, one of the more prominent members of the Cabaret Voltaire, besides Ball and Hennings was Tristan Tzara who made poems out of scrap words. He outlined how to make a dadaist poem by getting a newspaper article, cutting out all the words and sticking them together how they came out.

Dada had four different locations initially, Zurich, Berlin, Paris and New York.

Other Dadaists included Max Ernst who was a well known surrealist painter and Marcel Duchamp who has now rised to infamy with his artwork "fountain" which was a urinal placed on its side and signed "r. mutt 1917".
Although Duchamp is currently seen as being a member of Dada he operated mostly on his own and was considered dada after dada finished up, he operated mostly on his own after being denied entry into the ranks of the cubists in paris, before he left for new york.

Dada is now considered to be the foundations for the modern contemporary art even though Dadas goal was to destroy and bring down the art work, in an effort to take away one of the pleasures from the bourgeoisie, it only bolstered it and gave art a new direction which is what most contemporary art is still playing around with, the question of "what is art?"

An Exerpt from Tristan Tzara's Dada Manifesto
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Albert Gallywene - Mon, 12 Sep 2016 07:12:02 EST ID:zJ9QYZUz No.51068 Ignore Report Quick Reply

But seriously though! lets discuss the artwork! what do you think about the artwork? Is it art? why/why not?

What do you like dislike about it?
Lets do this!
Sophie Brookford - Mon, 12 Sep 2016 12:36:15 EST ID:ztYKjtH8 No.51071 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Art class was twice a week. I do not remember it because it was captivating, but because it was drilled into me.

Also, yes, she was the best teacher I ever had. This intro is more of an anecdote, but much of what she taught us during those 4 years stayed with us until now (17 yrs since I graduated from high school). She lived for, and knew how, to make kids think and remember (not learn, mind you, but think and remember).

>So basically the only thing you care about is how this affects you?
Why yes. Ask me the same question about a million more things, the answer will be the same. Something must affect me in some, direct or indirect way, in order for me to care about it.
Albert Gallywene - Mon, 12 Sep 2016 14:29:38 EST ID:zJ9QYZUz No.51073 Ignore Report Quick Reply

oooh! what picasso did you get? For all the fame picasso has i cant name any of his paintings off the top of my head, i know what some of them look like but their titles escape me.
Its weird because i could give you atleast 10 braque paintings off the top of my head, but no picasso... i know there is one where its a girl in front of a mirror which is quite popular the one with the lady sitting on the chair and the one with the guitarist. But their titles are just not coming to me. probably in french or something lol.

I would probably have one of his prints hanging on my wall if i wasnt opposed to hanging other artists works on my wall.

yeah she sounds really cool.

>Something must affect me in some, direct or indirect way, in order for me to care about it.
Thats fair enough i suppose.
Drilled into you, captivated, same thing if you ask me! :p

So do you look upon that work fondly or is it an insult?
Edwin Hungerchotch - Fri, 16 Sep 2016 19:53:55 EST ID:1Bq5RWJe No.51103 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Duchamp may have stolen the fountain work from a woman. I'll post the article if i can find it. I'm not sure if that makes the work better or not, probably not if you are a feminist....
Edwin Nundleson - Sat, 17 Sep 2016 00:29:26 EST ID:zJ9QYZUz No.51104 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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yeah absolutely from the Baroness Elsa von Freytag-Loringhoven.
She was using pipes and plumbing in her work for years before duchamp ever presented fountain.

I mean its signed r mutt which was a pseudonym so i'm not sure if duchamp claiming the work is totally the baroness' work which would make it malicious or the work was co created with duchamp or him claiming the artwork as his own was part of the dada aesthetic, which i sincearly doubt since duchamp is mostly thought of as a dada artist post dada.

When duchamp spoke about fountain there is no indication ever implied that the artwork is not his own, so im quite convinced that the artwork was co created with the baroness, even if he commisioned the baroness, who was using pipes to make artwork at the time, to make the work for him it would still be part of his work.

I think the biggest factor in this, is that the baroness in 1915 did an artwork called "god" which is basically just a pipe (i think ubend? i dont know plumbing) which at the time was credited to Francis Picabia. But that work has now come to be known to be co-created by the baroness, so we assume but are not entirely sure that the baroness co created fountain with duchamp. its still up in the air and since they are both dead and im sure their journals etc have been sifted through already, we may never know.

So yeah it is assumed that she had significant involvement in the making fountain, based off of her previous works with plumbing.

discuss by Phineas Blarrywet - Wed, 14 Sep 2016 12:38:28 EST ID:HU0Fc9pa No.51077 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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here's some art
it is relevant - we are on the internet.
you can find texts and interviews and more work on his site.
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Fucking Bumblewot - Fri, 16 Sep 2016 06:57:21 EST ID:zJ9QYZUz No.51093 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>I honestly found his editing a little tired by the end, i feel that some of the shots couldve been shortened a little bit but i say that sitting at a computer desk accessing the internet, where videos are always fast paced and jump cuts etc.

I take this back. theres nothing wrong with his editing, his editing is amazing and very good.

I mostly wrote about the editing focusing on the rl video, but even then, just going back and watching it once again, is good.

so i rescind that comment.
Thomas Sangerkodge - Fri, 16 Sep 2016 13:51:04 EST ID:JlK5Cyzn No.51094 Ignore Report Quick Reply
By the obvious influences thing, I mean it's clear he browses 4chin a lot.

The subject, the music, the style, all very 4chinny.

And that's fine. But it's not original in a way. You never want a few influences to define your work.

But that's the best way I can describe it, an offspring of the mind of an image-board browser channeling the same ol.

He does have potential, just needs to see more of the world or something to get some more influences.
Thomas Sangerkodge - Fri, 16 Sep 2016 15:02:08 EST ID:JlK5Cyzn No.51096 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Actually, after viewing some of his other work, he does have his own thing going on.

I guess it was just this video that gave me that impression. The use of OPN, the vapor-wavy style, combined with the subject matter just mades me groan at this point because that style has become oversaturated. Almost like a formula at this point.
Edwin Hungerchotch - Fri, 16 Sep 2016 19:42:01 EST ID:1Bq5RWJe No.51102 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Glad you looked further, m8.
Edwin Nundleson - Sat, 17 Sep 2016 00:35:03 EST ID:zJ9QYZUz No.51105 Ignore Report Quick Reply

yeah see i picked that up as a kind of playing to the audience type deal, where he obviously know who he wants to see this, so hes trying to make it appeal to them.

But with that making said, perhaps it goes along with the betamale aesthetic?

Photoshop It Till Your Brains Melt by Alice Sunnerbanks - Wed, 23 Mar 2016 16:05:11 EST ID:pzziA6oc No.50466 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Abstract photoshop manipulations please, boss.
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Eliza Horringhit - Tue, 31 May 2016 12:03:08 EST ID:Mjt2lv7+ No.50721 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Eliza Horringhit - Tue, 31 May 2016 12:04:00 EST ID:Mjt2lv7+ No.50722 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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but really, why is that one guy spamming /b/ with this image?
Eliza Horringhit - Tue, 31 May 2016 12:09:40 EST ID:Mjt2lv7+ No.50723 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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FYI post 50721 is also made from the lizard
Hugh Billingforth - Tue, 28 Jun 2016 15:07:59 EST ID:ishC5B3K No.50832 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Jenny Biffingbore - Sat, 27 Aug 2016 14:14:00 EST ID:wOKp1ReI No.50977 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Before and after of a stock image.

hi would you like to see my website by Ian Sinnerbod - Sat, 09 Jul 2016 12:03:39 EST ID:UGUry58+ No.50842 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hannah Gunningcocke - Mon, 11 Jul 2016 03:04:49 EST ID:wnQRF19J No.50846 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Pretty cool stuff
I like the drawings/paintings, the sculptures aren't in my personal tastes really

This one is especially cool
William Hopperchad - Mon, 11 Jul 2016 20:55:47 EST ID:UGUry58+ No.50849 Ignore Report Quick Reply

nah masonry paint, i dont even use spray cans to cover areas cus it fucks up the black paint i use for the linework
Jarvis Puddlefuck - Tue, 12 Jul 2016 05:19:06 EST ID:y9uIaYgD No.50850 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>cus it fucks up the black paint i use for the linework
for real but that's why writers do the linework last

Still enjoying them. You should put a watermark on them. Then people can track it's original source if someone decides to post your work on a chan or w/e.

Good luck, man
William Hopperchad - Tue, 12 Jul 2016 16:45:49 EST ID:UGUry58+ No.50851 Ignore Report Quick Reply

i do the linework last everytime, just not ontop of aerosol paint because masonry paint reacts badly to it., i dont know why. i dont do aerosols anyway theyre expensive asf.
Bartress Bucklechick - Thu, 11 Aug 2016 13:05:05 EST ID:h4cQZw88 No.50916 Ignore Report Quick Reply

oh wow oh wow oh wow that's incredible!!!

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William Fillerlock - Fri, 05 Aug 2016 05:04:39 EST ID:I1GCDn7x No.50895 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Nigga got sum skills yo!
turgo - Sat, 06 Aug 2016 22:26:49 EST ID:1XX+5Peg No.50897 Ignore Report Quick Reply
thank you, i try to try :)

drug anime girls by Esther Blaffingfidging - Mon, 27 Jul 2015 20:19:34 EST ID:MfhJvT8w No.49510 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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i'll post drug anime girls whenever i draw them
feel free to contribute
here's roll from megaman to start
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John Tootstock - Sun, 27 Sep 2015 23:23:54 EST ID:lUeslOTa No.49795 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I really like your art!
Jhon Butwrittenwrong - Tue, 29 Sep 2015 10:38:56 EST ID:rAB1oqNB No.49797 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Thanks, appriciate the feed back!
des - Sat, 24 Oct 2015 10:33:46 EST ID:rKNkV027 No.49915 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Hugh Clissleforth - Fri, 20 Nov 2015 23:24:06 EST ID:zgvdZXX/ No.50026 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I see someone watches H3H3
Edward Crobberville - Wed, 13 Jul 2016 14:29:09 EST ID:qeTuHVPD No.50860 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Bummed back from the dead. Not exactly an anime artist but can draw some cartoon girls.

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