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Objectivist nihilism is scientific truth by John Wheeler - Mon, 12 Mar 2018 22:01:00 EST ID:99q/tE+2 No.4684615 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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What does calling the suicide prevention hotline do? Can they convince my employer to give me a raise or talk a cute girl into giving me a chance? My life is still going to be shit after calling them.
Laura Longcock - Mon, 12 Mar 2018 22:04:01 EST ID:dsDRA5Dc No.4684617 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's a backdoor way for the government to legally commit you against your will.

Also if you admit to them that you own guns they will call the cops on you to have them confiscated.
Illidan Stormrage - Mon, 12 Mar 2018 22:04:39 EST ID:suIce4cE No.4684618 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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This is the only suicide prevention hotline you need. Either get drunk or just kill yourself.
Zerg - Mon, 12 Mar 2018 22:17:11 EST ID:XuQfNk/o No.4684620 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If you're not 100% immediately about to kill yourself that second, they want nothing to do with you. If you are, they call the ambulance and you get sent to the hospital whether you like it or not, for which you/your insurance provider will then be billed an exorbitant amount.

Typically insurance does not cover the ambulance ride, which, if you haven't done anything to harm yourself yet, essentially equates to a $600+ taxi ride. So unless you've already taken pills or whatever, or think you're about to lose control, you might be better off finding another way to the hospital and just walking in to the ER if you're going to go that route.
Illidan Stormrage - Mon, 12 Mar 2018 22:24:32 EST ID:suIce4cE No.4684622 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Wow, I didn't know the suicide prevention hotline actually forced you to take an ER trip. That's fucked up as hell.
Illidan Stormrage - Mon, 12 Mar 2018 22:30:53 EST ID:suIce4cE No.4684624 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I wonder how long I could last as a suicide hotline operator if I just told every single caller DO IT FAGGOT, YOU WON'T, YOU'RE WORTHLESS AND YOU SHOULD END YOUR MISERABLE PATHETIC EXCUSE FOR AN EXISTENCE SINCE YOU'RE GOING TO DIE ANYWAY

>MFW sound of gunshot over the phone

They probably record all the calls but I bet I could last a day and get a few dozen people to kill themselves. They'd probably prosecute me though, and that sucks.
Johannes Kepler - Mon, 12 Mar 2018 22:34:53 EST ID:hpttbF7E No.4684626 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I don't think you could punch down any harder than trolling a suicide hotline.
JennyBanningdale.ani - Mon, 12 Mar 2018 23:11:03 EST ID:8w3t+usS No.4684644 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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suicide is even more pointless. learn to nihilism
William Pinningworth - Mon, 12 Mar 2018 23:16:29 EST ID:kHHR4HEL No.4684648 Ignore Report Quick Reply
God I hope you're not one of those nihilists that is really just depressed. Nihilism is in vogue on the internet right now but really it's just people pretending to be coping with the meaninglessness as some sort of virtue signal about how not depressed they are.
Tidus - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 01:11:23 EST ID:dyvkVwoO No.4684685 Ignore Report Quick Reply
In most cases if you can distract a person for about an hour with a conversation they won't kill themselves. There was a case where a person talked to a jumper about sports and they didn't jump. They will talk to you for an hour maybe more.
Guardian of Forever - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 02:16:13 EST ID:L/0B/Ofy No.4684697 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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nihilism is also cool because you can argue definitions of terms, accuse others of not being nihilistic enough, and do other things.

pic illustrates nihilism through simple visuals. OP should buy a case of beer and a watermelon, then get drunk and fuck the watermelon. because that's something they can do, and we can all agree at least that it is.
Lisa - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 02:26:52 EST ID:S4/JrHUi No.4684698 Ignore Report Quick Reply
if you're claiming that you want to kill yourself because people aren't giving you enough things for free then you don't really want to kill yourself. what you want is for people to give you things that you don't deserve and didn't earn for free. other people don't want to do that, but somehow you think that you can hold yourself hostage and they will succumb to your desires. in reality they won't and you won't kill yourself either.

people who genuinely want to kill themselves just want to kill themselves and they do
Johannes Kepler - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 02:58:52 EST ID:hpttbF7E No.4684702 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Evaluation and Treatment of Patients with Suicidal Ideation

"Suicidal ideation is more common than completed suicide. Most persons who commit suicide have a psychiatric disorder at the time of death. Because many patients with psychiatric disorders are seen by family physicians and other primary care practitioners rather than by psychiatrists, it is important that these practitioners recognize the signs and symptoms of the psychiatric disorders (particularly alcohol abuse and major depression) that are associated with suicide. Although most patients with suicidal ideation do not ultimately commit suicide, the extent of suicidal ideation must be determined, including the presence of a suicide plan and the patient's means to commit suicide."
Caroline Herschel - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 07:03:02 EST ID:9+zsfpsX No.4684727 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Whether it's conscious or not, people who choose to do it in a public place don't actually want to do it. If they really, truly, totally wanted to be dead they'd do it where the chances of someone stopping them are lowest
negativity hitting 50 levels deep
coming out the coming out the woofers in my jeep
Wendi Richter - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 12:46:24 EST ID:JvzOCnYY No.4684812 Ignore Report Quick Reply
your suicidal thoughts are supposed to motivate you to go to war without fear, not to kill yourself alone

your environment is at odds with your genetics. find out why and then go to war.
MarthaWashpork.xcf - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 13:37:42 EST ID:ZwANrN+2 No.4684830 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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dat feel brother just learn to live with it until things get bad enough and it's your only option

I push the feeling into other things, I make macabre images and spread them online, when I do die people will be like damn this guy was fucked up it makes sense. Life truly is always meant to be bad for some. That's the most logical conclusion I can come to at this point
JennyBanningdale.ani - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 14:53:31 EST ID:8w3t+usS No.4684850 Ignore Report Quick Reply
is that yours? it's fucking bad ass
Kazooie - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 15:23:27 EST ID:qlRyL94q No.4684861 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Nihilism is often just doing what you did before, uncertain but not caring about meaning.
William Pinningworth - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 15:27:04 EST ID:kHHR4HEL No.4684862 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah well when I look at it and think of nihilist philosophers/writers I think of interesting and deep people. Not just whiny people who are upset that the world isn't a Disney movie and that shit isn't fair.

Not that I'm even nihilist but I do enjoy some nihilist philosophers. I think absurdism is a much better fit.
Cmdr. Williams - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 15:42:02 EST ID:/qxVgNZ0 No.4684866 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No meaning is pretty ambiguous. There's all sorts of nihilists. I think a lot of so called nihilists are just stupid miserable people though. Some nihilists are cool, think there's all sorts. I think some sad sack nihilists might be existentialists in denial because nihilism has cool edgy connotations and they've heard of it and they don't understand their own beliefs. Or maybe I'm just projecting that it took me ages to confirm that what I believed was a well founded philosophy that many others had explored. Because nihilism is all anyone talks about when it comes to philosophy.

Except you. I don't know your ID, I just know there's a passionate absurdist here. You're alright, you try to bring solace to others with your philosophy and don't put others down or drag them down.

I'm drawn to existentialism. My experience of reality is subjective, take a few limited sensory inputs pre existing hardware and use those limited inputs until the hardware is adjusting for huge amounts of data and you the model of the universe your brain creates so you can interpret your actions and the effects they have in a way that maximises your agency in the ways that most matter. Well from an evolutionary standpoint. At the end of the day the experience I have is created by my brain and most of the things I understand don't really exist. What I process as a chair is a cloud of particles. What I perceive as space is just a low density gap. What I perceive as warm is just a rate of transfer of energy. If I'm already creating subjective meanings to interact with the universe why not go all the way? There is nothing more central to my existence than me therefore I should choose what matters. One could easily exist in a pseudo sociopathic vacuum but I think that such an existence would be foolish. Intellectually, because I recognise that other people... more matter and energy in relatively similar patterns bits of the universe just doing things, have this capacity, probably anyway, they seem to and because on a practical level I have empathy built into my mind hardware and make feel good, I consider people as having a lot of value.

I guess that's kind of absurd but the central premise of absurdism just doesn't sit. I guess I figure if there's no absolute meaning who's to say trying to find a subjective meaning is silly? Well everyone actually. But it doesn't actually matter unless I choose to let it. I find nihilism doesn't work with how I experience life for similar reasons. Maybe there is no meaning and even my subjective one is worthless but if I'm wrong it doesn't matter. Nihilists can argue with me all they like because it doesn't matter if they're right.

Anyway OP is right, it is the objective truth. I will make do with the subjective because that makes me happy.
MarthaWashpork.xcf - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 15:54:54 EST ID:ZwANrN+2 No.4684869 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I did the photo-shop effects over it but I did not paint the picture behind it
James MacInnis - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 16:14:38 EST ID:StQbvT7p No.4684874 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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they'll trace your call and send the cops over to neutralize you. The you're sent to a place and forced to be alive until you learn to want to be alive.
Kane - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 17:14:40 EST ID:JczWhPhX No.4684915 Ignore Report Quick Reply
it automatically sends police to your address to send you to a psych ward where you will be held possibly until you die.
Kane - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 17:20:13 EST ID:JczWhPhX No.4684922 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Mitä vittua, are we finns a hivemind?
James MacInnis - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 17:25:05 EST ID:StQbvT7p No.4684926 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Jag är helsvensk din jävla ryss.

j/k, we're friends, finlands sak är vår!
Nevala - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 17:32:16 EST ID:IEgs+Tii No.4684931 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Cat Cora - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 17:41:09 EST ID:YbWvR5Gu No.4684934 Ignore Report Quick Reply
don't forget all that shit with the nazis.
Kane - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 18:46:15 EST ID:JczWhPhX No.4684958 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Nietzsche was the protoversion of 4chins poster
>tries to convince himself and everyone else that he is the peak alfamale
>in reality a complete loser and closet homosex
No wonder Hitler liked him, and no wonder 4chins posters like them both.
Mavis Fudgecurl - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 20:16:04 EST ID:404oNqpl No.4684998 Ignore Report Quick Reply
what shit?

nietzsche died in 88 i believe
you know, the very year the academic fasces movement fucking started

so you know, kill yourself for not enforcing your property
a property which, is nothing but a half assed insinuation that Nietzsche had anything to do with the fasces movement in the 1880s or the fascist movements post-Weimar civil war

again, kill yourself
James Moriarty - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 21:18:29 EST ID:t7Vr/PyL No.4685017 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Seriously, Americans still believe complete crap about Nietzsche and don't realise his sister created a fake book that was the biggest inspiration out of all his works.
Samantha Carter - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 21:27:06 EST ID:7NEjujhX No.4685020 Ignore Report Quick Reply
people think that nietzsche actually existed, people who are fully aware that the entirety of the holocaust was faked just somehow assume that this one controversial figure was real without doing any background research into the topic whatsoever.
anyone who does more than scratch the surface will realize that nizzcheese was invented to sell tshirts. he was drawn to match a salable silhouette like what che has but with shorter hair
Molly Blottingfield - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 23:13:19 EST ID:rwIJRRc5 No.4685048 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How did suicide hotlines even come to be? When was the first suicide hotline established, and what was the motivation behind it?
>inb4 da joos and other conspiratorial stuff
it's quite possible but in order for the greater population to be onboard with it they must have a reason.
Blackbelt Beatrice - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 23:16:11 EST ID:YbWvR5Gu No.4685051 Ignore Report Quick Reply
maybe because people keep killing themselves all the time and society in general wants to do something to cut down on that
Molly Blottingfield - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 23:17:23 EST ID:rwIJRRc5 No.4685052 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Alright so wikipedia says it originated in the 1950s and has religious origins, except in tasmania, where it was more humanitarian and secular. Weird shit, how they devolved into a completely untrustworthy machine after being something that was supposed to be all about being able to share feelings when there was no other outlet.
Molly Blottingfield - Tue, 13 Mar 2018 23:19:17 EST ID:rwIJRRc5 No.4685055 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My thirty second journey into this territory made it seem like it was actually more personal and less about the greater utilitarian impact it had on society, originally.

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