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Why are people so afraid of wildness by Rocket Grunt Emma - Wed, 16 May 2018 11:48:31 EST ID:3XGrZ9VW No.4715472 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Why do people freak out if you don't? Online the potential risks after 9 months seem even with the potential benefits.

I've seen dogs that are aggressive without testacles and pittbulls with them who were sweet. Animals are supposed to be territorial, protective,slightly wild. Stop throwing huge dogs into small boxes and expecting them to behave normally. A med - large dog needs open space to roam and run daily like a fucking cattle.

People also lose it when they find out I hunt game and feed them to my pack of dogs raw?

(I'm in a small mountain college city I'm used to the county) basically why are people here so afraid of nature?
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Rocket Grunt Emma - Wed, 16 May 2018 11:50:32 EST ID:3XGrZ9VW No.4715473 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh back story I had animal control called on me for having Sheppard's and Pitts with balls, eating raw deer in my back yard. Some snitch neighbor who won't show themselves.
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Nicolaus Copernicus - Wed, 16 May 2018 11:53:37 EST ID:6LvtdVif No.4715475 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So first of all dogs arnt a wild animal. Im not going to explain to you the science behind what that means because your obviously an idoit because you dont even understand why you should spay/nueter them.

Feeding raw animals to your dog is fine.
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Mestral - Wed, 16 May 2018 11:55:23 EST ID:li968klp No.4715476 Ignore Report Quick Reply
as long as you keep them in your yard dude you do you but don't be one of those shitbags with a bunch of half stray dogs wandering off his property off leash whenever they feel like it
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MatildaSubblepuck.rar - Wed, 16 May 2018 11:58:37 EST ID:hbhQMeZV No.4715477 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You should get your dogs fixed, OP. I'm sure they're well behaved and all that but the world already has too many puppies.
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Rocket Grunt Emma - Wed, 16 May 2018 12:00:20 EST ID:3XGrZ9VW No.4715479 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715475

Oh I understand why. It doesn't mean every dog needs to be spayed or neutered. You seem opinionated and sure that whatever you believe is best. City slicking fools don't even know the farm dog raising breeding and training hustle and bustle. We don't live in places where parks and people are seen for miles. The only other dogs I have to worry about are coyote and I want my boys to be on guard.

Jfc I can't wait to move back to the country.
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Martin Sodgebork - Wed, 16 May 2018 12:01:01 EST ID:gjwkw6he No.4715480 Ignore Report Quick Reply
get rid of the pit before it mauls a child
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Rocket Grunt Emma - Wed, 16 May 2018 12:03:57 EST ID:3XGrZ9VW No.4715481 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715477

Most of my dogs are. If anyone's going to tell me I HAVE to fix my most intelligent, genetically strong, and well mannered males they can fuck right off. And the lady was being nosy if it was her. She seemed disgusted when I brought the fresh deer back. My right hand was off leash but immediately went to the back yard when I commanded and I shut it off to prepare the deer for him and the rest. She can't even see my backyard because the fence is so high and I put overgrown plants in.
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Rocket Grunt Emma - Wed, 16 May 2018 12:12:02 EST ID:3XGrZ9VW No.4715486 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4715480

The pittbull loves kids and cats. The blue heeler duo and shepards will eat a cat and they won't be near a kid.

The lady is saying I don't raise my dogs right so it has to be her. Dude she feeds her dogs gravy train and I never see them out of the house.
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MatildaNecklelin.eps - Wed, 16 May 2018 12:16:46 EST ID:wea4iTxT No.4715487 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715480

Oh look its another one of those "pitbulls are dangerous no matter what" retards

Spoiler alert: there is no such thing as a shitty dog. There is only dogs who have been trained by shitty owners.
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Jenny Pickhood - Wed, 16 May 2018 12:18:15 EST ID:kHHR4HEL No.4715488 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715480
Lol this whole pit bull troll thing is 2 ez.
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Frederick Worthingfoot - Wed, 16 May 2018 12:30:40 EST ID:V4/uDXIq No.4715497 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715487
It's a no true scotsman defense. Whenever a dog bites someone, it's written off to a bad owner. I agree we should blame the owners of violent dogs, but let's do it before they maul someone. Got a pitbull? Shame on you. Be a responsible owner and get a poodle or something.
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Michael Fucktart - Wed, 16 May 2018 12:35:09 EST ID:0+fjLdkG No.4715500 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just sign here please >>4715439 and give your dogs a chance to be patriot heroes in the international battle against non-americans.
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Hamilton Worthingfield - Wed, 16 May 2018 12:51:10 EST ID:BN+fpXUK No.4715508 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>People also lose it when they find out I hunt game and feed them to my pack of dogs raw?

People get mad because you're going out of your way to be killing animals that did nothing to you. If your idea of a good time is shooting defenseless animals from half a mile away like a pussy then I don't want anything to do with you. We're in the 21st century; humans are supposed to be letting go of their primitive violent desires, not embracing it, you neanderthal.
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William de Sitter - Wed, 16 May 2018 12:51:41 EST ID:blj1ib4x No.4715510 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i've always found the idea of "owning" animals kinda fucked up. like just let 'em be free, dawg
though i do have a dog and i love her but i don't think i'm gonna get another one
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Martin Sodgebork - Wed, 16 May 2018 12:55:23 EST ID:gjwkw6he No.4715511 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715508
fag
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MatildaNecklelin.eps - Wed, 16 May 2018 13:00:19 EST ID:wea4iTxT No.4715520 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715508

Spoken like someone who doesn't live in a region overpopulated by deer.

Deer are little shits. They overbreed like hell and are like locusts when it comes to exhausting their food supply.

If deer weren't hunted to keep their population at least somewhat under control, then we'd be dealing with massive outbreaks of mange every summer when the deer overpopulate and starve themselves to death.
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Martin Sodgebork - Wed, 16 May 2018 13:04:10 EST ID:gjwkw6he No.4715523 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715520
Cut him some slack, his first sexual memories are of Bambi
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Hamilton Worthingfield - Wed, 16 May 2018 13:09:21 EST ID:BN+fpXUK No.4715528 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715520
This is just an excuse to shoot animals with guns. There are humane ways to control the overpopulation of animals. Letting mouthbreathing rednecks with guns try to solve this overpopulation problem is the most retarded thing you could do.
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Jenny Pickhood - Wed, 16 May 2018 13:12:10 EST ID:kHHR4HEL No.4715530 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715508
How does shooting game make you a pussy? It's more of a pussy thing to not be able to kill inferior species because for whatever reason you believe that it's immoral to kill the things we eat lol
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Smokey Mcbongwater - Wed, 16 May 2018 13:13:09 EST ID:BowkiUKZ No.4715532 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715520
Oh fuck off. Bring back wolves and mountain lions, and you won't need to shoot deer.
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Jenny Pickhood - Wed, 16 May 2018 13:13:19 EST ID:kHHR4HEL No.4715533 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715528
Like what? How would you cull a deer herd without shooting them? Traps that will possibly maim them and bleed em out? Poison them? Are you retarded?
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MatildaNecklelin.eps - Wed, 16 May 2018 13:13:38 EST ID:wea4iTxT No.4715534 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715528

Man what a pussy you are. OMG UR SHOOTAN ANIMALS WITH....WITH....GUNS!!!!

I think it's far more humane for a deer to be munching happily on some grass when they're suddenly taken down by a bullet without even having the time to realize what happened to them.

The alternative is that they die slowly starving to death over several days, or they spend their final hours in shear terror as they're hunted down and mauled and slowly eaten alive by wolves.
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Jenny Pickhood - Wed, 16 May 2018 13:15:41 EST ID:kHHR4HEL No.4715535 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715532
>bring back wolves and mountain lions

it seems pretty inhumane to bring back animals for the explicit puprose of brutally killing and eating other animals. Do you see a double standard here? We are animals.
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Albert Wesker - Wed, 16 May 2018 13:16:31 EST ID:elhhLbL9 No.4715536 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715530
How does having empathy for an inferior species make you a pussy? It's more of a pussy thing to shoot them from a distance instead of with your bare hands because for whatever reason you think shooting something is manly
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Smokey Mcbongwater - Wed, 16 May 2018 13:17:38 EST ID:BowkiUKZ No.4715537 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4715534
Oh fuck off you fucking pussy. Nature was a bloodbath, it should be a bloodbath, and the bloodbath called nature should continue into the future until the sun grows old, red and annihilates this rock we call home.
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Jenny Goodwater - Wed, 16 May 2018 13:23:00 EST ID:OwKUJaFF No.4715540 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4715537
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Emma Gazzlemed - Wed, 16 May 2018 13:36:50 EST ID:YbWvR5Gu No.4715543 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715540
metal af \m/
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FannyMittingnot.cbl - Wed, 16 May 2018 14:01:38 EST ID:i6OWVttX No.4715548 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715533

Sterilization -- although it hasn't worked in michigan I think it might work in the future, since the trap-neuter-return method has shown success with cats (chicago is a proof of concept). And poisoning is not a bad idea either if it's a painless. Shooting deer often leaves them alive and suffering for a long time, while poisoning them could be fast and painless. This is a serious problem that should be treated clinically, not treated as an entertainment for uneducated simpletons with guns.

>>4715537
Wow, so edgy, man.
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Smokey Mcbongwater - Wed, 16 May 2018 14:16:59 EST ID:BowkiUKZ No.4715553 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715548
It's not about edginess. Nature is bloody. Nature is gruesome. Nature is also beautiful. There's beauty in some tiger cubs disemboweling a deer. The beauty of nature is a paradox.
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Jenny Pickhood - Wed, 16 May 2018 14:17:03 EST ID:kHHR4HEL No.4715554 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715548
>everyone who hunts is an uneducated simpleton

All generalizations are wrong. I like how you call a group of people that enjoy a hobby that you don't uneducated and in the process proving your ignorance. Have you ever met anyone that doesn't agree with you or has different interests?

It's also pretty hilarious that you believe trapping wild animals and cutting their balls off is humane and better than a system that has worked for thousands of years and provides food to people. All because you have some ridiculous moral high ground you think you're on in regards to animals killing things lower on the food chain. What reality do you exist in?
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Rocket Grunt Emma - Wed, 16 May 2018 14:23:52 EST ID:3XGrZ9VW No.4715555 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715508
>>humans are supposed to disconnect from nature

You're delusional if you think humanity can escape from the fact that they're animals. You're also disconnected from the country (nature not a nation) cause it's not just ignorant assholes who love killing who hunt and fish or trap. Go up to Alaska. Go to Montana. You're shitting on people who have way more knowledge and respect of the natural world around them than you.

Say I don't feed my dog murdered deer. They're getting their food from, factory scraps or animals raised in captivity. Yet shooting a deer or trapping a rabbit or catching a fish and being fed by the earth is around me is a problem. You're a fuckin jackass.

Look around you. Humanity isn't nonviolent. Hunting is one of the least oppressive forms of violence in the world.
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Rocket Grunt Emma - Wed, 16 May 2018 14:28:19 EST ID:3XGrZ9VW No.4715556 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715555

There's something to be said about someone who hates hunting who couldn't even identify a plant. Think hunting is simple OK, boy go get a deer, cut the meat properly without spoiling, use the fur. Go ahead fuck boy. Or you can go shop, and support exploration of immigrant farm workers. How about those sweat shop clothes on your back?
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Rocket Grunt Emma - Wed, 16 May 2018 14:33:21 EST ID:3XGrZ9VW No.4715559 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also murder isnt inherently wrong. Humanity's moralism is based in social constructs and common morality is often riddeled in hypocricy. Prove me wrong liberal right wing nut.

Sometimes I feel like I was born in the wrong generation. I'll take the horrors of the BC era over all these retarded man made dramas
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Lass Betsy - Wed, 16 May 2018 14:34:30 EST ID:DZCr2SET No.4715561 Ignore Report Quick Reply
HST used to hunt wild boar in Big Sur with a machine gun.
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Rocket Grunt Emma - Wed, 16 May 2018 14:41:37 EST ID:3XGrZ9VW No.4715567 Ignore Report Quick Reply
PS:

I legit feel more empathy than ive ever felt when I hit my target. I kneel and thank the deeer before getting them wrapped. I feel a connection to the earth around me and spend days there with it fasting before I begin the stalk. Tons of people you'd call "dumb hicks" do the same, shit even the Christian ones pray.

Yet some farmer slitting throats or beating and marking cattle or someone getting paid 3 cents an hour to pick crops is progress.
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Trunk Slamchest - Wed, 16 May 2018 14:42:27 EST ID:9BM/9OmI No.4715569 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715561
I hunt with landmines to really cut out the skill and effort factors.
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Silver King - Wed, 16 May 2018 14:47:44 EST ID:nJkrco7e No.4715571 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715569
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0ss6gCPNs4
this is you right?
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Ashley Riot - Wed, 16 May 2018 14:53:20 EST ID:1FIir6gD No.4715573 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715553
>other animals are brutal, therefore we should be brutal too

Sure. Let's all rape and eat shit too since animals do it all the time.

>>4715555
>>4715554

It's an insult, it's supposed to be insulting, einstein. And generalizations exist for a reason, rednecks aren't usually the most brilliant and eloquent human beings, but this is another topic.

>It's also pretty hilarious that you believe trapping wild animals and cutting their balls off is humane and better than a system that has worked for thousands of years and provides food to people

It's less bad than shooting animals and possibly leaving them to die suffering and slowly because you missed the head or because you're a sick fuck that hunts with a bow, which frequently kills slowly. It's a system that has been working for us, but not for the deer.

>Look around you. Humanity isn't nonviolent.

And how does this justify being violent? We're rational beings, we can make the choice to not be uncivilized cavemen; unlike other animals we can try to be above our irrational instinct, which is the reason why we have a justice system and morality.

>Hunting is one of the least oppressive forms of violence in the world.

There are more oppessive kinds of violence in the world than hunting, but it's beside the point -- hunting can also be really cruel.
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Smokey Mcbongwater - Wed, 16 May 2018 14:55:38 EST ID:BowkiUKZ No.4715574 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4715573
Who said anything about humans you fucking retard?

We should let nature do it's own thing. Fucking mongoloid. Do we live in nature? No. Therefore we no longer require the law of the jungle. We have technology.
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Joseph Favre - Wed, 16 May 2018 15:03:31 EST ID:K2U14Zn8 No.4715576 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715574
>Do we live in nature? No.

blinkingguy.gif
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Jose Garces - Wed, 16 May 2018 15:08:00 EST ID:dtOzO2/Q No.4715578 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I only hunt by capturing the animals, taking some meat cells, and growing a steak in my lab. No more killing! Oh no, now they're mad at me because I didn't get informed consent.
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Robert Dicke - Wed, 16 May 2018 15:18:03 EST ID:m9PpuE3G No.4715580 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Only thing I'd be worried about for your dogs is whether the game has parasites. Otherwise, meh, dogs eat their own shit. Cats go hunting on their own all the time, that's why I like them a little bit better. Leave a cat to its own devices and it will usually survive. Dogs'll just get hit by cars.
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Emma Cimmerlotch - Wed, 16 May 2018 15:28:09 EST ID:bruBGo3D No.4715582 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4715580
Pretty much this. But the life span for a outdoor cat is usually no more than 3 years, which I think is more than a dog which would probably die within a week or 6 months at best. Fucking cats rule.
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Jenny Pickhood - Wed, 16 May 2018 15:34:56 EST ID:kHHR4HEL No.4715585 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715573
It wasn't as insulting as it was just a stupid statement, just like most of what you've said.

>it's a system that's been working for us but not for the deer
We eat them. Should we go and give them a blowjob before shooting them in the head, so that the death of prey is more comfortable for them? You just seem to have a fundamental misunderstanding of nature. Also, you don't shoot for the head, you shoot for the heart.

I can understand the whole "stop liking what I don't like" mentality even though it's annoying but to call people cretins because they actually appreciate nature and like to participate in it is a bit absurd. I know you'd like for it to be all rainbows and unicorns but that's not the way it is. Also, if you're so adamant about the deer castration culling method why don't you go castrate a deer then come back and tell me how humane that was.

>unlike other animals we can try to be above our irrational instinct
Keyword "try." We will never be above it, and people like you pretending don't really get us anywhere.
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Jose Garces - Wed, 16 May 2018 15:36:21 EST ID:dtOzO2/Q No.4715586 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715582
My cat is indoor/outdoor. She sleeps inside, and goes out when she asks. No litterbox. She goes outside like a dog to do that too. Comes when called. My little killer assassin. Found her almost dead and starving. Barely 4 months old or so. Had her over two months now and she's almost back to a healthy weight. Idk why I'm telling you about my cat. I'm stoned. Love me.
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Gunner - Wed, 16 May 2018 15:42:52 EST ID:UiHyKRG5 No.4715596 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715582
That sounds untrue.

The reason cats can be ledt to their own devices is because theu are wild animals.

Dogs are domesticated species. They would not exsist with out humans, and they can not survive with out humans.
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Silver King - Wed, 16 May 2018 15:48:21 EST ID:nJkrco7e No.4715597 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715596
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free-ranging_dog
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Gunner - Wed, 16 May 2018 16:05:14 EST ID:UiHyKRG5 No.4715604 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715597
Did you read more then 1 sentence of that before posting it? It supports what Im saying.
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Silver King - Wed, 16 May 2018 16:07:17 EST ID:nJkrco7e No.4715605 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715604
The article that lists a whole bunch of varieties of dog that survive without humans supports what you're saying about how dogs can't survive without humans?
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Bernard-Ferdinand Lyot - Wed, 16 May 2018 16:08:09 EST ID:SGDQ5aVU No.4715607 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4715586
Your cat's gonna die a terrible death outside. Nice job.
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MatildaNecklelin.eps - Wed, 16 May 2018 16:27:49 EST ID:wea4iTxT No.4715615 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4715548

>And poisoning is not a bad idea
>poisoning them could be fast and painless

Poisoning is a HORRIBLE idea! You've never poisoned anything before I assume. It's never fast or painless. And there's collateral damage when scavengers eat the corpse and are also poisoned. It's about as cruel as you can get. You heartless fuck.

You talk about uneducated simpleton, yet your solution is to either try a solution of pushing water up a hill by trapping and neutering fucking deer, and when that idea inevitably doesn't work just saying "fuck it lets just dump a whole bunch of poison into the environment! It's still better than bullets cause guns r scaurrry and anyone who uses them is a nazi redneck or something!"

You strike me as someone who lives in like the upper east side of manhattan in an apartment building whose floor number is greater than 10, and has only ever seen a deer on wikipedia while sipping your $12 latte that he had to ask whether the coffee beans were vegan friendly and animal cruelty free.

But if you see a mouse in your apartment then you fucking zyklon b the little bitch so it dies a slow horrible poisoning death behind your wall where you can't be inconvenienced with seeing it, because your limp-wristed little bitch self can't stomach the idea of touching a mouse corpse.

I bet your wrists are so thin that you sprain them when you tap on your keyboard too hard. See I can generalize too, bitch boy.
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Ashley Riot - Wed, 16 May 2018 16:32:34 EST ID:1FIir6gD No.4715616 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4715573
>Should we go and give them a blowjob before shooting them in the head, so that the death of prey is more comfortable for them?

What is so absurd to you about the notion of preventing suffering?

>Keyword "try." We will never be above it, and people like you pretending don't really get us anywhere.

Sure, so let's throw all of our morality and justice systems out out the window, because why try to be more civilized than brutal cavemen? This is the most retarded thing I have read this entire year. Am I being trolled?

>if you're so adamant about the deer castration culling method why don't you go castrate a deer then come back and tell me how humane that was.

If you're so confident that castration is inherently cruel, why don't you show me examples inatead of throwing an adlapidem at me? Some sick fucks castrate without sedation, but it's obviously not the kind of castration that I'm advocating. And by the way, you completely ignored poisoning as an option again.

Not even gonna bother responding the rest of this meandering whining of a post. There isn't even anything of substance to respond.
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James Storm - Wed, 16 May 2018 16:33:39 EST ID:xEFCFJa0 No.4715617 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4715615
What we should really be doing is focusing our efforts on reintroducing natural predators like wolfs, coyotes, and mountain lions back into the habitat to fend off the deer menace.
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Emma Cimmerlotch - Wed, 16 May 2018 16:38:37 EST ID:bruBGo3D No.4715623 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715617
Fucking deers, jesus so fucks replicate like rats.
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Martin Sodgebork - Wed, 16 May 2018 16:42:16 EST ID:gjwkw6he No.4715625 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I wouldn't mind neutering and feeding poison to Ashley Riot so we wont have to suffer any more of his bullshit
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JarvisBrookshaw.pps - Wed, 16 May 2018 16:42:58 EST ID:xDTINfqf No.4715626 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4715617
That sounds all well and dandy, Jerry Garcia, but you know why we killed those off? Because they're dangerous as shit to live.
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James Storm - Wed, 16 May 2018 16:59:58 EST ID:xEFCFJa0 No.4715628 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4715626
Deer aren't the only pests being controlled in this plan.
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Ashley Riot - Wed, 16 May 2018 17:03:59 EST ID:1FIir6gD No.4715632 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4715615
>It's never fast or painless.

This is simply not true. Citation needed.

https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/view/7727225/methods-for-the-euthanasia-of-dogs-and-cats-icam-international-

Did you even do any research?
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Tito Santana - Wed, 16 May 2018 17:08:34 EST ID:i+/IM0dL No.4715634 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4715632
I'm not sure if euthanasia can be considered POISONING you retard, euthanasia is usually fast and painless as possible
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Emma Cimmerlotch - Wed, 16 May 2018 17:11:54 EST ID:bruBGo3D No.4715635 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715632
>euthanasia

Thats not a traditional form of poisoning you fucking mongoloid. Tito Santana is actual fucking poison to kill animals/rodents or even humans is fucking a horrible way to fucking go.
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Emma Cimmerlotch - Wed, 16 May 2018 17:14:48 EST ID:bruBGo3D No.4715636 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715635
meant to say

What Tito Santana is saying is poisoning in a tradional form is a pretty fucked up way to go.
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Jose Garces - Wed, 16 May 2018 17:32:13 EST ID:dtOzO2/Q No.4715639 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715607
Fuck you. I live in a rural area with no traffic. I even got her breakaway collars so she wouldn't get snagged on anything. We have a forest and a creek for her to inhabit. You sound like you're the type of person who would enslave society in hitlerian jewboxes to "protect them from themselves".
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Martin Sodgebork - Wed, 16 May 2018 17:53:05 EST ID:gjwkw6he No.4715647 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715639
Forest and a creek? You should definitely keep her in at night, raccoons are absolute fucks
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Jenny Pickhood - Wed, 16 May 2018 17:59:51 EST ID:kHHR4HEL No.4715650 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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There is a subset of cat owners who think a perfect cat lifestyle is sitting inside the house staring outside. My cat is an outdoor cat as well and he lives a very fulfilled life just chillin guarding the house and killing birds, bunnies, and mice.

A few weeks ago I came outside and he comes trotting up to me with a baby rabbit in his mouth. I grabbed him and he dropped the rabbit and it hopped away. I only really cared about saving the rabbit because I could. He's brought me dead rabbits before and I'm proud of him every time, but it was just so ridiculously cute that when I came outside he ran up to show me what he got.

Also, he's a super fuckin smart cat. When one of my other cats who aren't outdoor cats once got out, he ran up to her and herded her back inside. It was frankly pretty amazing to watch. He is a total guard cat.
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Jenny Pickhood - Wed, 16 May 2018 18:00:31 EST ID:kHHR4HEL No.4715651 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715650
Meant to reply to >>4715639
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James Storm - Wed, 16 May 2018 18:05:37 EST ID:xEFCFJa0 No.4715653 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715650
For real. I had indoor cats growing up but after spending a year living on a farm with a couple of barn cats, It just seems cruel to keep them confined. It's like, instead of being happy, capable little friends, they become depressed, resentful and demented the longer they're indoors.
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Jenny Pickhood - Wed, 16 May 2018 18:07:19 EST ID:kHHR4HEL No.4715655 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715651
I should also say that not all cats can be outdoor cats. I only let him do what he wants because he's smart. My other two cats are not street smart at all and would not survive. You can tell when you've got a cat that can handle it and they're not really that common. The street smart stuff has almost been bred out of cats but there are definitely still a few there. Sorry triple post.
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Matt Serra - Wed, 16 May 2018 18:16:14 EST ID:HFHUv8bS No.4715658 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715650

Why is everybody's cat picture always blurry as fuck, like dude get a grip on your dt's nigga tha fuck
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Ovince St. Preux - Wed, 16 May 2018 18:24:19 EST ID:mdSBPxL+ No.4715662 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4715634
>>4715635

Did I really wipe the floor with you in this internet debate so bad that you gotta resort to semantics? So euthanizing by putting a lethal substance in your body in order to kill is not considered poisoning now? Is this your way of admitting defeat? You silly boys are reaching so desperately that it's actually adorable.

Another intenet debate victory for me.
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Mestral - Wed, 16 May 2018 18:26:47 EST ID:li968klp No.4715663 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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My cat's an indoor cat 100% but he still needs the fresh air and sunlight, when I lived at an apartment he'd spend hours every day sticking his head out of the balcony bars starring at traffic, now that I'm in a house I can take him for walks.
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William de Sitter - Wed, 16 May 2018 18:35:43 EST ID:blj1ib4x No.4715664 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lol this threads went places
people will fight about ANYTHING online, it's actually pretty amazing
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Alan Balls - Wed, 16 May 2018 18:40:22 EST ID:ZdTMw7oo No.4715666 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715663

Just don't take off the leash or he will start dumb shit like jumping out of your windows.
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Jenny Pickhood - Wed, 16 May 2018 18:53:03 EST ID:kHHR4HEL No.4715673 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4715658
Because I'm smart enough to not buy a new phone more than every 3 years.

>>4715662
If you consider ignoring the posts that call you out on being stupid and then replying with pedantic bs winning then yeah you're pretty good.
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Dario Argento - Wed, 16 May 2018 20:02:23 EST ID:dsDRA5Dc No.4715721 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4715662

>euthanizing housepets
>poisoning wildlife en mass
>pretty much the same thing

Holy fuck you are a straight-up fucking retard, you know that?
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PhoebeGallershit.pm5 - Wed, 16 May 2018 20:24:10 EST ID:BowkiUKZ No.4715732 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715615
I think a bunch of Spanish farmers are doing time in jail for poisoning carcasses after biologists discovered dead rare scavenger birds and had forensic labs trace the poison to said farmers.
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The Warden - Wed, 16 May 2018 20:47:33 EST ID:YbWvR5Gu No.4715739 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715658
cats are often apathetic to their owner's photography and therefore do not sit still
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Jean-Luc Picard - Wed, 16 May 2018 20:59:50 EST ID:xiNFj+an No.4715748 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4715616
Population control via castration of deer isn't feasible.
We can't even control the feral horse population in the midwest via chemical castration, the idea of trapping (you can't round up deer like horses), capturing, anesthetizing, and surgically sterilizing most of the deer population every 1-2 years (deer mature very quickly) is absurd.

Leaving out poison to kill deer is even more fucked, since deer share food sources with a bunch of other species, which makes it important to stop them from exhausting their supply, lowering the carrying capacity for deer and everything that share food sources.
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Ulala - Wed, 16 May 2018 21:12:06 EST ID:m9PpuE3G No.4715755 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715748
I'm pro-killing deer, but it should be organized for public festivals imo. Have a bunch of kids kill deer (in a managed way of course so they don't just go extinct) for a season as a rite of passage or some such bullshit. Our society needs crazy shit like that again.
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Eric Bischoff - Wed, 16 May 2018 21:14:01 EST ID:BuQ3dHeS No.4715757 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715748

You're talking to someone who thinks humankind can escape nature.
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Albert Sungerbick - Wed, 16 May 2018 21:16:00 EST ID:MNMSFUoM No.4715758 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Because city slickers raised in a sterile environment of concrete and plastic do not know anything about nature and humans fear the unknown more than anything (except maybe damage to their ego lol).
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Eric Bischoff - Wed, 16 May 2018 21:17:07 EST ID:BuQ3dHeS No.4715759 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715755

Idk if this is off topic but isn't it feasible that disconnecting from the hunting gathering method and nature entirely was a bad move. People seem to think it's so definite, but surely we could advance as a species in ways we can't imagine. Hunter gatherers still evolved.

People always imagine space aliens being some advanced race colonizing everything in its path but I feel it's more likely they've found ways to be completely one with the environments they thrive in, and are able to build their societies along that. Human kind imo has been on a path of extinction.
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Eric Bischoff - Wed, 16 May 2018 21:19:31 EST ID:BuQ3dHeS No.4715760 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715758

Maybe liberal yuppies but in my experience in the cities hoods people aren't so prissy. They go cat fishing, hunting, do drugs, openly exchanged them and love Gun's too. Generally I moved to a prissy college town. I'm country born but had no problem living in atl, or baton rouge (more parrty college town).
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The Governor - Wed, 16 May 2018 22:20:45 EST ID:dMzOg5BJ No.4715786 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Isn't it amazing how I can demolish everyone's arguments even when I'm being targeted by basically everyone in the thread? My intellectual prowess is truly unmatched.

>>4715673
This is exactly what someone that lost a debate would say. It's cute that you said that I avoided certain arguments without citing any example.

>>4715748
>implying that poisoning the food source is the only way to poison deer

>>4715721
Nice strawman. I never said that it's the same thing.
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Clay Guida - Wed, 16 May 2018 22:23:00 EST ID:gLnaddQ6 No.4715788 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715786
Castrating farm animals is a big task and if something goes wrong they will die a slow and painful death from gangrene.

Why not just feed them some of the gay frog water?
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Olimpico - Thu, 17 May 2018 08:03:23 EST ID:5P8rwTjC No.4716019 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Lol still marveling at a fucking idiot who thinks eating a wild animal is brutal. Dude, the methodology behind the entire modern world we live in is upheld by psychopathic violence and war and you're out here bitching about primal violence.
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Priscilla Ganninghot - Thu, 17 May 2018 09:08:51 EST ID:fEThyA9L No.4716041 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4715472
Lol OP is one of "those" pittbull owners
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Cowboy Bob Orton - Thu, 17 May 2018 09:12:26 EST ID:fJCwkahg No.4716043 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715788
I'm sure that letting rednecks deal with the problem instead of trained doctors has a bigger chance of things going wrong. And again, you could also euthanize the deer instead of castrating them.

>>4716019
>thinks eating a wild animal is brutal

Wrong. I never said that eating wild animals is brutal, I condemned the brutal way at which hunters kill animals.

>Dude, the methodology behind the entire modern world we live in is upheld by psychopathic violence and war and you're out here bitching about primal violence.

>humanity has lots of instances of being violent psychopaths
>therefore being violent is excused and we should throw our morality through the window instead of trying to be civilized

You're just as brainless as the other mouthbreathing hillbillies in the thread that I easily refuted.
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Olimpico - Thu, 17 May 2018 09:28:08 EST ID:5P8rwTjC No.4716054 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4716043

Yeah OK. Bougie people like yourself make my stomach turn. The type to not say a single word to anyone in a poor area except tell them what not to do, or inform them that you've called the police.

Let me guess, you have no reason to have a gun in your house. Lmao. Man you're from the wrong side of the fuckkng tracks.
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Olimpico - Thu, 17 May 2018 09:34:07 EST ID:5P8rwTjC No.4716055 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716043

Morality doesn't exist and is not a defenitive part of humanity, anyone who has a brain understands this. I dropped out in 10th and seem to got a better grasp on world events and sociology than your disconnected ass. If morality is so definitive and real it wouldn't be so many instances of what it means fluctuating. It wouldn't be riddeled with hypocrisy. Morality is a herd mentality enforced by the violence of religion and governments. Historically. Presently.

Your an empty minded idealist. Your views on violence are a knee jerk reaction denouncing "all violence" as unnecessary. Emotional responses rather than actual understanding. The big hypocrisy is that you yourself benefit from and probably support great forms of violence.

Everyone's called you out for this. Fucking bitch boy. Probably went to a private school where you didn't have to go down swinging to survive.
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Abyss - Thu, 17 May 2018 09:57:18 EST ID:vGzHiA47 No.4716065 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716043

Hunting for your own food is many times over less brutal than buying meat from a grocery store.

The life of an animal raised in the wild, freely roaming, contained within the thrill of the hunt, an act nearly as old as life itself. Enigmatic, pure. May the life of a mammalian beast be as fulfilling now as it was for our ancestors thousands of generations ago.
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Samuel Dickglue - Thu, 17 May 2018 09:57:43 EST ID:J/mVertP No.4716066 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716055

Yeah I guess thats the thing about being stupid. If you were smart enough to know you were stupid, you wouldn't be stupid
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Cowboy Bob Orton - Thu, 17 May 2018 09:58:34 EST ID:fJCwkahg No.4716067 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716055
I'm not arguing that morality is objective, but that it's a necessity if we're to live in a civilized society and also that it's also one of the things that differs us from other animals, that much is undeniable. Unless you believe that the "irrational belief" of restraining ourselves from going our and stabbing and raping our families is just idealist garbage.
I'm also not arguing that all violence is unnecessary for what constitutes violence is also subjective, but that if suffering can be avoided then we should avoid inflicting it. If you can't even grasp the points I'm making then you shouldn't have made a fool of yourself by trying to argue with almighty me.
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Cowboy Bob Orton - Thu, 17 May 2018 10:02:21 EST ID:fJCwkahg No.4716069 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716055
Also

>Your an empty minded idealist
>your

Really, dude?
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ThomasGreenfuck.ht - Thu, 17 May 2018 10:11:37 EST ID:nToLLoCr No.4716070 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716069

I love it when people fall back to spelling and grammar in an argument like you're grasping at straws lol.
I don't know about that dude but most people just type freeform lucid as they think, and it's not like this is English class where you are graded and double checking your sentences.
You need to let that shit go on forums. No one cares and it makes you look like your losing the argument.
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Abyss - Thu, 17 May 2018 10:15:11 EST ID:vGzHiA47 No.4716071 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4716070

I think all of you guys are faggots and you all need to take a few hundred mics of lsd each and then go hiking alone through the forest for a few hours with a fat sack of weed and some fresh fruits and veggies. Clear those nasty cobewebs and cares out of your heads.
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Olimpico - Thu, 17 May 2018 10:17:06 EST ID:5P8rwTjC No.4716072 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716067

You have an air of arrogance about you so I have a hard time believing you've ever experienced direct violence because if I walk around with my nose up that high it isn't long before I would get knocked upside the head.

Makes sense because you think letting other people get their hands dirty for you makes "suffering" avoided. Nah man,your eyes are just avoiding the daily suffering of life. You could eat a cheese burger but you couldn't kill a cow. You could report a rapist but you couldn't end them as they plead for their lives. See what I'm getting at?

You're arguments are weak because you think if society collapsed people would rape and murder their family. News flash, modern western civilization is way way younger than all of human history.
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Olimpico - Thu, 17 May 2018 10:18:14 EST ID:5P8rwTjC No.4716074 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716071

Ehh I prefer mescaline for the Wilder.
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William Herschel - Thu, 17 May 2018 10:42:09 EST ID:U8y2+Piv No.4716085 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716070
Not knowing the difference between your and you're makes it seem like YOU are losing the argument + for us foreigners grammar is important since English is a very confusing language as it is.

NB because i have no idea what this thread is about.
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Cowboy Bob Orton - Thu, 17 May 2018 10:46:04 EST ID:fJCwkahg No.4716087 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716072
>Nah man,your eyes are just avoiding the daily suffering of life.

This is a non sequitur fallacy, but I'm gonna respond anyway since you think it's a valid argument. The other suffering that happens in life has nothing to do with the discussion, and such unrelated suffering shouldn't be an excuse for us to inflict suffering in trying to solve the problem of overpopulation of wild animals.

The rest of the post is ad hominem, so there's nothing of substance to respond.

And by the way, if you had the intimidatingly grandiose intellect that I possess you'd be showing off too.
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Olimpico - Thu, 17 May 2018 10:46:39 EST ID:5P8rwTjC No.4716089 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716085

Go to a foreign forum then ya God damn eurotrash. Your starting to piss me off with you're bullshit.
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William Herschel - Thu, 17 May 2018 10:50:57 EST ID:U8y2+Piv No.4716094 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716089
*you
  • Eurotrash
*You're
*your

2/10 see me after class
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Cowboy Bob Orton - Thu, 17 May 2018 10:53:43 EST ID:fJCwkahg No.4716096 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716072
Oh, forgot about this:

>You're arguments are weak because you think if society collapsed people would rape and murder their family

Well, yeah, that's pretty much the kind of barbaric shit that happens when society collapses. Somalia is a good example.

Also:
>You're arguments

Oh no, not again.
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Olimpico - Thu, 17 May 2018 10:53:52 EST ID:5P8rwTjC No.4716098 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716087

You can't answer a question. There's 9 types of intellect. I'm not sure you posesses any. Yet you definitely don't seem to possess the same type as me. Put me in some ivy league physics class and I may not fit in but I could also probably thrive and survive in situations and other atmospheres or with tasks that you would freeze up facing. That's because any sociologist who still thinks iq is accurate and that intelligence doesn't come in multiple forms is a hack.

I grow my own veggies, buy fruit from market, and fish and hunt my meat. If you tell me I can't do that you're trying to dictate my will and I'm not the type to like people who do that. Hell nobody in Appalachia is. Yet you can support death with your dollars, and avoid having to get your hands dirty as you spew your bs at me. Yeah dog kibble has animals raised and murdered.. My dogs eat game. You want my dogs to go vegan? Bitch boy.
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William Herschel - Thu, 17 May 2018 10:54:15 EST ID:U8y2+Piv No.4716099 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4716089
Rule #6 of 420chan:

>The above rule also applies if your spelling and grammar is about as bad as someone underage. Hint: you look like a total moron.
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Olimpico - Thu, 17 May 2018 10:55:28 EST ID:5P8rwTjC No.4716102 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716096

Somalia was in a state of civil war you fucking nitwit. I bet you have no idea of what the political climate of Somalia was and is let alone Africa in general.
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HK-47 - Thu, 17 May 2018 10:56:42 EST ID:d/8NCeA0 No.4716104 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I mean, if you gonna eat meat anyway, at least go in the pvp zone and shoot the thing yourself, at least it had an actual natural life unlike the cows, pigs and chickens living in factory prisons.

>>4716043
A rifle shot to the heart out of nowhere vs. a paralyzing sledgehammer blow to the head after which you get stabbed? I'd choose the rifle.
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Olimpico - Thu, 17 May 2018 10:58:58 EST ID:5P8rwTjC No.4716105 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716104

You're talking to someone who would begin to shake if someone showed them a rifle.
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Archie Gobblehadging - Thu, 17 May 2018 11:16:30 EST ID:xEFCFJa0 No.4716118 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716104
>go in the pvp zone and shoot the thing yourself, at least it had an actual natural life unlike the cows, pigs and chickens living in factory prisons.

As a vegetarian, this is honestly the only meat eating I can condone. I have nothing but respects for hunters who take that responsibility upon themselves and put the whole animal to use after its killed. Factory farming is one of the most fucked up things and people are sadly completely numb to it.
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William Herschel - Thu, 17 May 2018 11:20:04 EST ID:U8y2+Piv No.4716121 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716118
Most hunters aren't really like that. At least not here. Mostly old, drunk peasants looking to shoot at stuff that moves.
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Olimpico - Thu, 17 May 2018 11:22:06 EST ID:5P8rwTjC No.4716124 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716118

I love how this person is calling me a brute basically for this reason. I don't remember the last time I purchased meat.

Im not out here dropping deee for fun. The hunt for me is very delicate. I fast. I walk in the woods. For days before it begins. It's a bond with the earth. The fast ends with plants or berries if found and the hunt begins. I bond with my dogs who assist me.

Most of my time is spent fishing and gardening. Hunting is an experience in its whole and the meat can last. Trapping is easier,and rabbit is good for dogs and stu.
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Cowboy Bob Orton - Thu, 17 May 2018 11:23:04 EST ID:fJCwkahg No.4716125 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716098
>first paragraph

Who cares. You seem really insecure about your IQ if you felt the need to defend your intelligence. And I'm just doing a goof anyway about the whole "grandiose intellect" if you haven't noticed.

You don't need to eat meat. You're going out of your way to shoot animals in order to eat it because you enjoy shooting animals. And yes, there's vegan dog food available for purchase.

>>4716102
Well, maybe somalia wasn't a good example afterall, but the point is, barbaric shit happens when we abandon ethics and morality completely, otherwise we wouldn't have a justice system with, you know, anti murder murder and anti rape laws.

>>4716104
I never said that factory farming is acceptable and not brutal. You sure beat the shit out of that strawman, good job.
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HK-47 - Thu, 17 May 2018 11:25:10 EST ID:d/8NCeA0 No.4716128 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716105
Im a leftist city-green soy-eating queer as well, I support moderate gun control and all that. Its just that hunting is such a marginal hobby/business, theres way less harm from it than from factory slaughter. Even a nerdy citykid liberal should agree that hunting is not the hill to die on. I bet the meat-industry is behind this, because environmentalists are really split on this issue, and the anti-hunting bloc is certainly not funded on facts, so it has to be funded on a lot of money and propaganda. Im sure the big corporate assholes who own all the chicken deathcamps get in to an absolute autist hissy fit when they realize that some dude is out there just shooting ducks for free(license fee, sure, but thats government) instead of buying the mcnuggets.
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Olimpico - Thu, 17 May 2018 11:25:20 EST ID:5P8rwTjC No.4716129 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716121

I have a hard time believing you've ever went hunting if you think most hunters in America are the same. I've lived in over 8 States and this isn't the case at all. An outsider looking in will have a very closed mind and only be able to judge by stereotypes or obnoxious characters.

Actual hillbillies pick their game to the bone. Fake ass richnecks looking for sport do not represent all of hillbilly or hunting culture which involves many races and beliefs and is made up of people who LOVE nature and hate concrete.
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Nathaniel Fanwater - Thu, 17 May 2018 11:26:42 EST ID:wea4iTxT No.4716130 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Is that cityslicker fag still in this thread trying to argue about how hunting with guns is wrong, and that we should just poison all the wildlife instead?

Shit man that dude's been at it for like over 24 hours now.
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Albert Sungerbick - Thu, 17 May 2018 11:28:26 EST ID:MNMSFUoM No.4716132 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4715760

lmao people from the hood are especially afraid of wild nature
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Olimpico - Thu, 17 May 2018 11:31:49 EST ID:5P8rwTjC No.4716134 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4716125
>>laws

You mean the same law that gives drug offenders and stick up kids (people who Rob other scumbags) prison time in the double digits, while most rapists and chomos get early release? Not really a good example. You don't realise it but you have the same mentality that allowed colonialists to wage war against indigenous people all over. Whos barbaric again? You're so sure your civilization is god, immaculate but in reality concepts of ethics and justice are soaked in blood.

For someone with such intelligence you sure don't seem too aware of human history beyond the confines of traditionalist liberal philosophers.
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Olimpico - Thu, 17 May 2018 11:35:34 EST ID:5P8rwTjC No.4716135 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716132
>>not knowing the difference between the hood on the west coast and North East
>>versuses the hood in the South East South West and midwest

You can't compare Nashville,Memphis, okc, kcmo, Houston, nola, baton rougue, abq, evansville, omaha to places like nyc,chitown,Baltimore, Oakland.

I swear people forget 90% of america. Most fools think Alabama is all white.
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WilliamPickwater.dir - Thu, 17 May 2018 11:42:28 EST ID:gjwkw6he No.4716139 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716130
The dude legit masturbates to animals, this is very important to him
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Olimpico - Thu, 17 May 2018 11:49:43 EST ID:5P8rwTjC No.4716143 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>and yes, there's vegan dog food available for purchase.


Lmao anyone that removes meat from their dogs diets with the intention of making them vegan deserves to be mauled to death by a pack of coyotes.
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HK-47 - Thu, 17 May 2018 11:54:31 EST ID:d/8NCeA0 No.4716147 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716125
>I never said that factory farming is acceptable and not brutal. You sure beat the shit out of that strawman, good job.

It wasnt meant as a strawman, I was simply referring to your earlier post where you said that the way hunters kill the animals is brutal, not the fact that they eat them. Brutal compared to what? I obviously assumed the alternative way to kill animals for food that is multitudes more popular than hunting these days, and thats factory slaughter.

Hunters try to kill their prey with one shot, they dont want to waste bullets/shells. Most hunters take pride from getting a clean kill, which means that the animal is dead pretty much instantly, from one shot. If they fuck up and just wound the animal, thats a mistake that they truly feel sorry about. People practice this shit in the shooting range for a long time before going in to the woods to shoot at real animals. Its much more humane than the shitty factories that hire any fucking weirdo to lay their psychotic childhood traumas on the animals with an arsenal of torture devices ranging from electric prod to chainsaw to pool of boiling water.

The way hunters kill their prey is faster and less painful than how the mountainlions and bears do it, so what the fuck are you comparing to when you say its brutal??
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Sphere Builder - Thu, 17 May 2018 11:55:40 EST ID:bruBGo3D No.4716149 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716143
This, wtf is wrong with people. Dogs are natural carnivorous and meat is part of their diet, thats like trying to make a Lion into a vegan..
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Albert Sungerbick - Thu, 17 May 2018 11:58:04 EST ID:MNMSFUoM No.4716150 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716135

i don't count The South as a real place with real humans
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HK-47 - Thu, 17 May 2018 12:03:10 EST ID:d/8NCeA0 No.4716153 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716143
Agreed, vegans are supposed to not have pets in the first place. Like if you are that deep in to it that you dont even want a dog to eat meat, then you should also feel a bit bad about owning an animal and forcing it to unnatural things like eating vegan shit and only 2 walks a day and even those on a leash. Like if thats okay then surely zoos and circus animals are just as bueno.
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Olimpico - Thu, 17 May 2018 12:09:47 EST ID:5P8rwTjC No.4716155 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4716147

Post reminds me of the episode of koth when hank missed out on a permit so took Bobby to some game farm resort. The deer looked up trusting, and Bobby says "this isnt right dad is it?" And Hank responds "no it isn't" as they lower the gun.

TThis person just doesn't understand how worldly, historic and delicate hunting can be when done for food. There's tons of tribes in the artic that still hunt. More people should hunt and be with nature if they want meat. It would humble them, give them understanding you can't get from a book and prevent gluttony and overeating of meat individually.

My first kill was clean. I immediately began crying. Not just in sadness for the deer but I had been deep in the mountain for a week with nothing but some mint and leaves. I felt amazed and connected to the beauty around me. I felt so greatful to this earth. I felt disgusted at the meat we eat from farms and vowed to never do it again. My uncle prayed even though I wasmt religolis religious he was super religious but into weed. He lit a joint and showed me how to preserve the body. We had a long ass hike.

Most people ive met are devastated and hate themselves if a kill isn't clean. Hunting isn't easy.
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Olimpico - Thu, 17 May 2018 12:11:45 EST ID:5P8rwTjC No.4716156 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716150

I literally listed the South ranging to the west. Basically you only like the coasts. Doubt you've been anywhere though.
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Cowboy Bob Orton - Thu, 17 May 2018 12:22:39 EST ID:fJCwkahg No.4716159 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4716130
The reason why I'm still going at it is because hunters are just such creepy beta males. To be honest, hunting isn't that big of an animal cruelty problem -- at least when compared with factory farming -- although it is in fact a problen that could be solved intelligently and empathetically instead via letting simpletons with guns solve it. What baffles me is that some people think that hunting is a good time and manly. How is it manly to shoot an innoffensive animal from hundreds of meters away? You know what is manly? Practicing martial arts and being man enough to beat people that could also beat you. And if you want to have a good time you could, I don't know, go to a bar and get laid with a hot girl, or go watch a movie or hang out with your friends and do drugs, but no, some people are so creepy and socially awkward that they think that a good time is shooting inoffensive animals from hindreds of meters away. Honestly, I think you're a cowardly awkward beta male if you think hunting is so important for you; you're basically too much of a pussy to do anything that would actually put you in danger and you probably enjoy seeing the gore when you shoot them and then cutting their corpse to eat them. Gee, I wonder why girls think you're sociopathic weirdos with tiny dicks and daddy issues when you say that you like to hunt and then cut animals.

>>4716134
You people love putting words in my mouth. I never said that anti drug laws and such things are reasonable. And if you think that anti murder and anti rape laws are so useless, then go live in a country without them, I'm sure you're gonna have a good time.

>>4716147
>Brutal compared to what?

Compared to euthanasia methods such as euthanasia via poisoning and maybe sterilization.

>>4716143
>>4716149
>>4716153
Then prove that dogs suffer when they have vegan diets. Why are you even so offended by this?
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Nathaniel Fanwater - Thu, 17 May 2018 12:28:07 EST ID:wea4iTxT No.4716161 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716159

>If you don't do all the things I like and do anything that I don't like, then you're a creepy beta male

>Why can't everyone just only do the things that I personally enjoy?

Yeah I think I have a pretty good idea who the actual creepy beta male in this thread is....
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Fred Whipple - Thu, 17 May 2018 12:32:29 EST ID:R0kkygZV No.4716163 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716159
The manly part isn't the killing its the fending for yourself. Providing for yourself without any direct help from others. Most men equate manliness to killing though. Those type of people don't have much when it comes to brain power. They have a hammer and every problem is a nail.
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Smokimus Maximus - Thu, 17 May 2018 12:35:49 EST ID:Ro4jM6LE No.4716164 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4716159
Hear me out dude, this is one leftist to another: before we start labeling each and every hunter as part of the same "silly manchildren thinking they are manly" bin, how about we raise our voices about the killing of endangered species for no other benefit that some pervert glory among other psychopaths hmmkay? Like this is an issue that is still going on and in which the spawns of POTUS are taking part of, and Im sure most if not all of these ordinary hunters would agree that its fucked up to kill endangered animals for lulz. You feel me? Not everything bad is equally bad, so how about we gradually end the worst things in the world until the biggest issue around is the guys who hunt and eat game?
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Nathaniel Fanwater - Thu, 17 May 2018 12:37:19 EST ID:wea4iTxT No.4716166 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716164

Cityslicker dude isn't gonna listen to you. He's more concerned with the hunting and killing of deer, probably the most excessively overpopulated species of game on earth. Talk about a weird hill to die on....
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Olimpico - Thu, 17 May 2018 12:42:38 EST ID:5P8rwTjC No.4716167 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716164

PSH. Dudes a liberal. Most people who identify with the left in America would be laughed off as liberals by foreign lefties.
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WilliamPickwater.dir - Thu, 17 May 2018 12:43:10 EST ID:gjwkw6he No.4716170 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716166
I've been saying this whole thread these pests literally get his dick hard
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Olimpico - Thu, 17 May 2018 12:47:57 EST ID:5P8rwTjC No.4716174 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716159

Rape and murder laws? You're an idiot. Rapists walk free. War mongers and cops and legal arms dealers get away with murder. See the pattern? Morality is a concept birthed from authortarian control over natural empathy. It shows how faulty it is at every turn. The wildness of humanity cannot be controlled and concepts of Justice historically arose to suppress these urges people hold, to restrain free will. Rape still happens despite its illegality, so maybe it's time to consider legalizing murder.
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Olimpico - Thu, 17 May 2018 12:50:05 EST ID:5P8rwTjC No.4716175 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716174

You literally hold the same idealogy that believes humanity needed to wage war against savages to progress. I'm a redneck and you sound like a white devil to me so that's saying a lot
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Morn - Thu, 17 May 2018 13:02:54 EST ID:li968klp No.4716188 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Animal rights crusaders have left a really bad taste in my mouth ever since a bunch of virtue signalling European fuckfaces decided that seals are too cute to kill and economically devastated a bunch of struggling Inuit communities that relied on their traditional hunt and European demand for the fur that was astronomically high until those comfy white devils realized the fur they loved came from cute things and it had to stop. Fuck Paul McCartney and fuck his whore freak wife for spreading outright lies and vicious propaganda just so they could ram their fucking EU ban through because it made them sleep better at night on their pile of money, shame it had to come at the cost of a thousand bankrupted Inuit suicides but they're not even cute, they're like brown and shit ew.

It'll never enter their minds that there's a human cost to making themselves feel less guilty about being part of the global apex consumer class that's destroying the planet, and it'll never occur to them that assuaging their guilt isn't as important as solving actual problems.
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Smokimus Maximus - Thu, 17 May 2018 13:15:59 EST ID:Ro4jM6LE No.4716195 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4716166
Its not so black and white either, in some areas hunters do hunt bears and mountain lions and wolves basically just so theres enough deer for people to hunt without risking endangering them. So its not like deer population is a problem, its a conscious decision by people, and this has often lead to unpredicted problems when all kinds of smaller critters are left without enough natural predators, and the hunters only want to hunt the deer.
Bear traps are really cruel too, if it goes off on a wolf or a fox, they chew their leg off and wonder off, bleeding to death slowly and painfuly. Not to say that it would be much less painful for the bears either, honestly.
Many of the national parks that dont allow hunting, and many sanctuaries across the world, are a proof that it doesnt take a man with a gun to keep a natural balance, actually to the contrary it seems that all these parks where hunting is unallowed, prosper amazingly, much better than where people hunt.


All this said, hunting for game that you eat is like 100000folds less evil than killing endangered exotic animals to have a fucking photo with their dead ass and the dead ass hung over your fireplace so you never forget that time you illegally killed a rare species from a foreign continent where millions of people die every year because shit like this is fucking up their ecosystem.
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HannahHazzledadging.gif - Thu, 17 May 2018 17:51:29 EST ID:dnTScYS8 No.4716374 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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This is my last post. It's already been estabilished that I'm right in this discussion a century ago anyway, and it's not like you plebeians could ever make a reasonable and non-fallacious argument in my lifetime.

>>4716164
God, the same argument of "there are other kinds of cruelty in the world, therefore your complaints of this kind of cruelty are invalid" that I refuted multiple times already in this very thread.

>>4716188
Oh no! People look down on those literal backward savages that brutally club adorable seals! You're probably a filthy canadian if you have such a hard on for clubbing seals. Why do those fucks even live in the snow, by the way? If it's required for their useless existence to brutally murder animals to survive where they live then they should go live somewhere else or maybe not even exist. Fuck them and fuck the fur market.

>It'll never enter their minds that there's a human cost to making themselves feel less guilty about

There is a human cost in the short term, but it's negligible compared with the animal cost of maintaining the status quo of systematically murdering billions of animals for no good reason.

>>4716163
Know what, you might be an alright cool and empathetic hunter and I might have been slightly more vitriolic and condesending with you than I should have. I don't think that you represent the majority of hunters though.
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Doris Draggleketch - Thu, 17 May 2018 17:54:52 EST ID:kHHR4HEL No.4716379 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716374
You've devalued your troll by making it go on for over 24 hours. You're way past the peak and it's just kinda sad at this point. Not as sad as you'll be when your neighborhood gets taken over by deers because SLW liberals have outlawed hunting so you have deer traphouses on the corner selling feed and public feeding troughs downtown so you can't even go downtown without seeing them. Yeah you guys love to defend them but if a deer comes within 10 feet you tell your wife to roll up the window because you're scared.
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Morn - Thu, 17 May 2018 17:57:16 EST ID:li968klp No.4716381 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716374
So basically you're advocating for Inuit genocide? Damn dude, you might be a little hardcore even for ecoterrorists
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WilliamPickwater.dir - Thu, 17 May 2018 18:18:46 EST ID:gjwkw6he No.4716406 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716374
Good on you for bowing out like a pussy as another deflection after you've ran out of goal posts to shift you treehuggin furfag pedophile 👌
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Jean-Luc Picard - Thu, 17 May 2018 18:38:35 EST ID:xiNFj+an No.4716417 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4716381
It's called horse-shoe theory.
You see the far left and far right are basically the same, the far right want to genocide blacks and gays, the far left want to genocide Inuits.
The far right want a capitalist dystopia where the proletariat workers can't disrupt the comforts of the middle and upper class, and the far left want a communist dystopia where the underclass of narwhal-hunters know their place.
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Oliver Blatherwill - Thu, 17 May 2018 18:41:06 EST ID:W1xKUw20 No.4716418 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716381
I strongly suspect that your concern for the well-being of the Inuit is entirely disingenuous and cynical.

Don't ask me how I know this, it's just a feeling.
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Morn - Thu, 17 May 2018 18:59:16 EST ID:li968klp No.4716429 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716418
Bruh >>4716188 what agenda do you think I'm pushing here, I'm in the pocket of big fur? Nevermind that maybe I give something of a shit about Canadian natives and am disgusted by the hypocrisy and lies pushed by radical animal rights activists because yelling about clubbing baby seals and posting a picture of a cute harp pup helps with donations, maybe I was there to see such a shitstorm of righteous indignation descend as Paul McCartney made shit up about bloodthirsty clubbers get so out of hand that Greenland banned Canadian Seal just so their own image wouldn't be stained because guess what their hunt is economically important too.
protip they shoot the fucking seals, the club is there to make sure its dead in one clean blow just in case the bullet didn't finish the job like a bolt gun for cattle or a hunter's knife for deer, it's a humanitarian fucking device you chodes
protip the pictures of the cute fuzzy baby seals they post and all the horsehit they moan about seals being killed in front of their mother's is just outright untrue, it's illegal to hunt them before they molt and leave to hunt for themselves

https://vimeo.com/181059386

do us all a favour and don't ask me to justify my motives for giving a shit about Canadian natives, hopefully some sense of general human decency is enough and I don't need to get personal
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Oliver Blatherwill - Thu, 17 May 2018 19:02:49 EST ID:W1xKUw20 No.4716432 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716429
I don't even know what you're arguing about, I just saw the post while scrolling and it really struck out to me as cynical. Maybe it's your writing style I dunno.

Anyway sorry to upset you but I don't care about fur or whatever so I'll move on nb
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Morn - Thu, 17 May 2018 19:10:16 EST ID:li968klp No.4716436 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716432
My bad, I was being disingenuous and cynical because its hard to keep up a serious discourse after
>If it's required for their useless existence to brutally murder animals to survive where they live then they should go live somewhere else or maybe not even exist
but this is actually a topic that gets my blood boiling so getting called out for it stings
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Mark Kerr - Thu, 17 May 2018 19:14:23 EST ID:0jdY7Cvk No.4716444 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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DEVOLVED INTO /POL/ SHIT

====TIME FOR THE LOCK.=====

GET UR INB4 IMAGES IN

(I'm not sarcastic I hate pol shit on /high/. KILL EM ALL 1984!)
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Oliver Blatherwill - Thu, 17 May 2018 19:21:11 EST ID:W1xKUw20 No.4716450 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4716436
Okay yeah even without knowing the context of the thread that's a really shitty thing to say, fuck that guy.

Also aren't seals all exclusively carnivores? Seems like a weird stance to take, considering.
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Oliver Blatherwill - Thu, 17 May 2018 19:24:45 EST ID:W1xKUw20 No.4716454 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4716450
Also while I was finding that pic I discovered that seals are also apparently interspecies rapists.

So.

That's something I learned today.
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HannahHazzledadging.gif - Thu, 17 May 2018 19:39:23 EST ID:dnTScYS8 No.4716466 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716454
That's kinda hot though.
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Shit Nebberwit - Thu, 17 May 2018 19:44:59 EST ID:wRbTTlFP No.4716472 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4716444
IN B4 /POL/ LOCK~!~!~!~!!~!

Keep stackin totems fags
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Rashma Beharry - Thu, 17 May 2018 19:55:18 EST ID:qMpluD0L No.4716483 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4716454
Otters get their revenge by raping baby seals to death
look at this ferocious little sea cat
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Clay Guida - Thu, 17 May 2018 19:58:59 EST ID:gLnaddQ6 No.4716485 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716472
Keep stackin Manuel Ferrara presents Cum Shitters vol. 17s fags.
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Cyclist Hedda - Thu, 17 May 2018 20:00:57 EST ID:x4k1ilGx No.4716491 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4716444
hi
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Midna - Thu, 17 May 2018 21:21:25 EST ID:dsDRA5Dc No.4716559 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4716444

Let's all say things that'll get this thread locked

Amiibo is shit and so is wrestling. Hiffwe.
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Cyril Lignac - Thu, 17 May 2018 21:46:27 EST ID:XOWVLyDA No.4716578 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716559
I had a ban from /wooo/ for like a year cause i asked if they knew wrestling wasn't real.

Perhaps we should mock wrasslers?
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Midna - Thu, 17 May 2018 21:58:27 EST ID:dsDRA5Dc No.4716590 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4716578

Wrestling is gay. It's just men touching each other. That's gay. That's like the definition of gay.
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Roy Neary - Fri, 18 May 2018 04:57:37 EST ID:sYnd26Bl No.4716784 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4716590
Ew, now our posts are like, touching.

I'm sorry, we're both gay now bro.
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Jose Garces - Fri, 18 May 2018 06:48:56 EST ID:YcBMm7/+ No.4716848 Ignore Report Quick Reply
wrestling story arcs are inherently lackluster, and the acting isn't even enjoyable. there are no redeeming qualities of wrestling, even on an ironic level. especially on an ironic level.
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Lorian - Fri, 18 May 2018 09:18:02 EST ID:2UoYyVe+ No.4716902 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4716848
It was really cool though back in 1998 when the Undertaker threw Mankind off the hell in a cell into the Spanish announcer table. And by the way, did you know that Kane from wwe is running for mayor of knox county? Isn't that mindblowing? He's even wearing a suit and everything.
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Bobby Flay - Fri, 18 May 2018 09:20:11 EST ID:nJkrco7e No.4716904 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4716902
Not really surprising.
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WalterGallerfuck.vm - Fri, 18 May 2018 13:24:20 EST ID:u9zhvxCw No.4717023 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Tbh both you and that bitch neighbor of yours are why i dont care for dog owners


Pic related; its what i see a dog owner as


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