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Interesting Jordan Peterson article by Michihiro Omigawa - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 00:50:43 EST ID:hBRlDd3P No.4727627 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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https://www.thestar.com/opinion/2018/05/25/i-was-jordan-petersons-strongest-supporter-now-i-think-hes-dangerous.html

I wonder if the guy who wrote it is legit.
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Necro Butcher - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 00:55:19 EST ID:kHHR4HEL No.4727630 Ignore Report Quick Reply
thread hidden
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Wade Widdle - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 01:23:08 EST ID:078TK/uO No.4727638 Ignore Report Quick Reply
He's my go-to guy when I want a 10-hour analysis of a disney movie. He is to Lion King what Chris-chan is to Sonic franchise.
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Team Aqua Grunt Frederick - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 02:39:49 EST ID:dtOzO2/Q No.4727649 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727638
You just got that disney thing from a trending tweet. I seent what you did.
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Kagetsu - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 02:56:33 EST ID:enTHxNFA No.4727654 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4727627
Oh, how speshul. Speshul in a super-paradoxial way due to being ultra-normal ... another article about "white terrorism" from a common left wing rag typical of a superslum. Yup, so speshul!
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Vyse - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 03:01:57 EST ID:T5WQ2mbi No.4727655 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727654
>white terrorism
>left wing rag
>superslum

do you guys have internet meeting where you decide what buzzwords you are all going to spam the rest of the internet with or something?

also since it's online do you still have to wear the white robes when you do it or can you just pretend cuz like the other guys won't know if you aren't actually wearing it?
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Galactic Boss Jenny - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 03:09:10 EST ID:gLnaddQ6 No.4727657 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727655
They actually all wear kippas and lie about it.
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Ortvatistadon - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 03:10:10 EST ID:KJmIdvbX No.4727659 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>i-was-jordan-petersons-strongest-supporter-now-i-think-hes-dangerous-AND-SO-SHOULD-YOU
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Kagetsu - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 03:26:35 EST ID:enTHxNFA No.4727663 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727655
White robes? Maybe you mean purple?

Nope. Nothing remotely of that sort. We are not a mindless herd like you but free thinkers. Therefore, go full /i/ on the meetings where those craving to give us "berkeley beatdowns" gather together in their black/orange jumpsuits, and just gather there.

And trying out new terminology is an asssignment specifically tasked to those well versed in Shakespeare, Skinner, Shoepenhauer, Sauserre and Nietzsche.
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Galactic Boss Jenny - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 03:30:21 EST ID:gLnaddQ6 No.4727665 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4727663
This should be your uniform from now on.
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Dr. T'Pan - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 03:34:52 EST ID:HXXpheM0 No.4727667 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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abort thread

ABORT THREAD
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Vyse - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 03:39:23 EST ID:T5WQ2mbi No.4727671 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727663
> We are not a mindless herd like you but free thinkers

oh right I forgot only YOUR way of thinking is the "free" way of thinking
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Sho Minamimoto - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 03:45:14 EST ID:1+b6B6Pi No.4727672 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727649
I don't tweet
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Heston Blumenthal - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 03:55:33 EST ID:lAh8JSSw No.4727674 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727671
if you were a free thinker you would not come with negatives only but a positive

but you have nothing to posit, so you are not free. How can you be free when you have nothing?
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Team Aqua Grunt Frederick - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 03:56:57 EST ID:dtOzO2/Q No.4727676 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727672
I apologize for the baseless accusation.
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Nicolaus Copernicus - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 04:01:08 EST ID:vpEo9AK9 No.4727677 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727674
>if you were a free thinker you would think in the manner of X like me
Your version of reallity is super cute - no value though, like is the case with everyone else.
Do a serious philosophical/logical analysis of yourself and come back.
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Vyse - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 04:01:38 EST ID:T5WQ2mbi No.4727678 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4727674
dude if I was limited only to positives then it wouldn't be free thinking
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ThomasChallystane.rar - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 04:57:08 EST ID:5/XfHqwo No.4727680 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727678

I can tell your an oldschool 420channer, nice vintage image, probably around 26-27? good stuff brother
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Nigel Dimmermodge - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 05:37:47 EST ID:XqgXoTj0 No.4727684 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If scientology is tolerable to people then where do I sign up for the peterson cult that would be fucking great. Imagine how clean the compound would be.
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Vyse - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 07:19:15 EST ID:T5WQ2mbi No.4727697 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727680
close g, 28
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Alan Balls - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 07:41:01 EST ID:lUk4B2Nt No.4727699 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727684

lobster for dinner and disney movies on the telly!
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Melvin Manhoef - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 08:51:58 EST ID:T4g2Uk4e No.4727716 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>a University of Toronto psychology professor turned influential YouTube philosopher

>YouTube philosopher
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Sho Minamimoto - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 09:02:25 EST ID:1+b6B6Pi No.4727718 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4727716
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Samuel Dickglue - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 09:12:50 EST ID:ZU5EcUP3 No.4727720 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4727627
Oh good, the fucking missionaries are back nb
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Jack Hingerkack - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 09:22:40 EST ID:G8HJzN6j No.4727723 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I couldn't read the way thing. I got to the only part that had anything of substance to it, the guy couldn't like jp anymore after he refused to agree with a law that would make it punishable or something to not call people by their prefered "gender word" or whatever. Also jp and sz are kind of the same, picture related.
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Sho Minamimoto - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 09:24:40 EST ID:1+b6B6Pi No.4727724 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727723
Zizek said accurately that Jordan is the SJW of alt-right.
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Jack Hingerkack - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 09:28:19 EST ID:G8HJzN6j No.4727726 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727724

Zizek also said he would have voted for trump.
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Thiago Silva - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 09:35:29 EST ID:2PChuwCv No.4727727 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4727724
I don't see how he's trying to advance the alt-right cause. That's a pretty broad oversimplification.

There are many people one can place in a neutral category, spanning far left to somewhat far right politics, but always libertarian in thought. Someone has coined the term "intellectual dark web" to describe them.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/08/opinion/intellectual-dark-web.html
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Sho Minamimoto - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 09:36:30 EST ID:1+b6B6Pi No.4727728 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727726
Yeah, because american left does not exist. He hopes that 4 years of Trump creates a leftist movement.
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Beauty Sidney - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 09:36:50 EST ID:nJkrco7e No.4727729 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727727
>Someone has coined the term "intellectual dark web" to describe them.
pretty fucking stupid name tbqhwy
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Pokémon Prof. Matilda - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 09:37:07 EST ID:+Vk856/7 No.4727730 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I can't wait until this guy gets caught with his dick in a dolphin, because you know it's going to happen.
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Sho Minamimoto - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 09:41:37 EST ID:1+b6B6Pi No.4727732 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727727
>I don't see how he's trying to advance the alt-right cause.
Disney movies aside, his whole schtick is conspiracy theory that universities are filled with marxist teachers who create post modernist people who believe everything from gender to gravity is relative. He is making his kind(white heterosexual male) a victim of a worldwide zeitgeist, just like feminists do with patriarchy etc.
Its just idpol all around, and both sides have understood Marx wrong.
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Jack Hingerkack - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 09:43:47 EST ID:G8HJzN6j No.4727733 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727728

But it has not has it, in fact, zizek even said people be listening to jp because the left be dropping the ball. Did you see how zizek was treated after his trump comment? My god, he was almost sent to the gulag. Couple that with zizek often having conflicting statements regarding feminism, one almost thinks the left has shat itself so bad that no longer do their best and brightest feel confident enough to speak truthfully.
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Jack Hingerkack - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 09:47:39 EST ID:G8HJzN6j No.4727737 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727732

Wrong. jp is so much against this oppressor vs victim thing, if a some guy hanged around him and thought himself to be a victim of something like you described, he'd tell him to grow up.
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Robbie E - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 09:51:07 EST ID:hpttbF7E No.4727741 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I prefer Jordan Weederson.
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Sho Minamimoto - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 09:55:17 EST ID:1+b6B6Pi No.4727743 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727737
You might feel that way, but I based everything I said about him to his own speeches.
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Jack Hingerkack - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 10:01:07 EST ID:G8HJzN6j No.4727746 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727743

Strange then how he had offended groups like the so called mgtow
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Kendall Grove - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 10:14:33 EST ID:bruBGo3D No.4727750 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727749
Wow, havent seen Kirt do a ban in a while. Well done?

>All imageboards are part of the alt right

Hahaha, no. 420chan is left leaning for the most part. Its the 4chimp assholes that migrate here and russtle everyone up.
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Sho Minamimoto - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 10:15:09 EST ID:1+b6B6Pi No.4727751 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727746
What is so strange? SJW seems to offend a lot of people with their rhetoric, like when they say that white male can never be oppressed or w/e
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Evan Tanner - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 10:21:15 EST ID:B1XXvIN3 No.4727753 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727750

Been here for like 7 years bro. Always been Right wing, recently there has been a surge in left wing tards since the trump shit a while back. Mostly teenagers to be fair.
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Private E Hamboyan - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 10:23:54 EST ID:Ex0BR9CJ No.4727754 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727751

What's strange is that one could consider mgtow to be exactly as you describe jp.
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Scientist Sophie - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 10:24:21 EST ID:Ps1Iqi8F No.4727755 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727753
I didn't know anime and not having a job was right wing behavior
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Falco Lombardi - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 10:25:15 EST ID:DXQXl2wW No.4727756 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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No, "The Star" is not a part of the radical left propaganda machine
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/toronto-star/

No, Jordan Peterson is not part of the alt-right propaganda machine
webm related

The only mission Peterson is on is to warn people against idealogues, authoritarians, and the pointless dichotomising of political and social discourse. He is also on a mission to warn people of the dangers of post-modernist thought as being a dangerous subversive influence upon the progress of society, and to be honest I agree with that, especially when most post-modernist thought at it's core boils down to "How can mirrors be real if our eyes aren't real?!".
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Beauty Sidney - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 10:26:20 EST ID:nJkrco7e No.4727759 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727756
>I know nothing but believe everything Peterson tells me
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Krillian - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 10:28:36 EST ID:WyJBdMq7 No.4727761 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727753

Been here for 10 years, bro. Always been left-wing. There have always been both left-wingers and right-wingers here (usually libertarians on both sides tho, since it's a drug chan), the political divides have just been made more apparent by the burger election and the ensuing Culture War(tm) shitfest making everyone salty
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Falco Lombardi - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 10:30:31 EST ID:DXQXl2wW No.4727763 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727759
Tell me what his ulterior moties are then
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Eliminator Leck - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 10:34:23 EST ID:g92MMyiE No.4727766 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4727753
>420chan
>Always been Right wing

guess how i know you've just started coming here
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Kendall Grove - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 10:36:34 EST ID:bruBGo3D No.4727768 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727753
no, it hasnt, quit making shit up.
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Beauty Sidney - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 10:44:50 EST ID:nJkrco7e No.4727770 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727763
https://www.thestar.com/opinion/2018/05/25/i-was-jordan-petersons-strongest-supporter-now-i-think-hes-dangerous.html
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Keith Cholewinski - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 10:45:45 EST ID:YLfYFz+W No.4727771 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727753
>Been here for like 7 years bro. Always been Right wing
lol, wtf are you talking about. It's a god damned drug themed imageboard. I'm not saying there's zero crossover between the right wing and recreational drug users, but there was even less of them 7 years ago that's for sure.
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Sho Minamimoto - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 10:49:13 EST ID:1+b6B6Pi No.4727774 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727771
Counterpoint: all republicans are drug-addicted pedophiles, so theres probably always been a few of them posting here. That weird guy who keeps getting banned but comes back to talk about raping his nephews or w/e, probably someone from congress.
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Private E Hamboyan - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 11:05:59 EST ID:Ex0BR9CJ No.4727782 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727770

>it's the year 5 D.J.P (during jordan peterson)
>it's now illegal to have a dirty room and the only thing on tv is Disney classics
>JP built a taller statue of himself next to lady liberty
>children are being named after him in such numbers it's causing confusion
>why didn't we listen to that article i got told about on 420
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Falco Lombardi - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 12:56:47 EST ID:DXQXl2wW No.4727835 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727770
A hit piece written by a jealous salty collegue with an axe to grind, full of conjecture and unverified claims is not a statement of proof of ulterior motives.
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MarthaMommerford.dat - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 13:04:35 EST ID:ILDM1Kgn No.4727837 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727771
people grow up and get wise.

"If you're not a liberal at 20 you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by 30 you have no brain".

And conservative doesn't mean keeping weed illegal either. It means you tell the state to fuck off and let people mind their own business.
And no I don't support republicans, but I would over Democraps.
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Kendall Grove - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 13:29:27 EST ID:bruBGo3D No.4727845 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727837
>"If you're not a liberal at 20 you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by 30 you have no brain".

This is indeed true. I tend to be a conservative now a days at a age of 33, but not one of those bat shit crazy ones though.
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Austin Powers - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 13:31:33 EST ID:utoiCvkb No.4727848 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727837
for all republicans and conservatives here I have a question. What should the age of consent and drinking age be in america?
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Doyle Mustachio - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 13:39:37 EST ID:YEx+8SLx No.4727854 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727627
A lot of passive aggressive sarcastic quips implying anyone who agrees or even entertains Peterson is a Nazi incel will be generated by this thread, but if you can't see that Jordan has a point about certain things, you are blind.
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Kendall Grove - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 13:41:59 EST ID:bruBGo3D No.4727858 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727854
> but if you can't see that Jordan has a point about certain things, you are blind.

I've been saying that exact same thing for a while now. He makes some good points here and there, but down right says some retarded shit from time to time.
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MartinSucklestot.dot - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 13:42:09 EST ID:VAwC9DFu No.4727859 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727848
Adults don't concern themselves with the legality of fucking teenagers my dude.
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Idol Eugene - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 13:43:34 EST ID:WsxZKp3N No.4727860 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727837
>>4727845

Even us over on the far left have a joke we tell sometimes - "It is true that you get more conservative as you get older. I was a Maoist Third Worldist, now I'm just a Socialist Libertarian"
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Private E Hamboyan - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 13:51:18 EST ID:Ex0BR9CJ No.4727861 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4727860

If they really wanted to be mean, like SOME, Of them are, they could just point out that iq goes down with age.
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Todd Duffee - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 14:07:31 EST ID:xiNFj+an No.4727865 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4727782
>toddlers flee schools and playgrounds in terror when JP passes
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Todd Duffee - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 14:19:00 EST ID:xiNFj+an No.4727868 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4727837
>And conservative doesn't mean keeping weed illegal either.
Conservative legislatures have done absolutely nothing to legalize pot in any state and uniformly fight it.

>It means you tell the state to fuck off and let people mind their own business.
Unless you're a corporation in the business of dumping waste into public drinking water, no it doesn't.
Conservatives support the war on drugs, mass incarceration, wars of imperialism, they're against workers rights, education, social programs.

Anarchist might be the word your looking for.
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Andrew Zimmern - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 14:21:02 EST ID:bS3qFyMA No.4727869 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727627

Blah blah blah Jordan is exactly what he preaches. Blah blah he wouldn't technically go to prison for misgendering but for not paying a fine for misgendering.

Bottom line: you should be able to express your conception of someone regardless of scientific fact without consequences imposed by the state. That is what Peterson was defending. Anyone who completely dismisses this as evidence of warmongering right-wing extremists is missing the point.

Regardless, he is now in it for the money and certainly uses a lot of conjecture in creating his psychological theories. And the only reason I include that "concession" is in an attempt to thwart people who categorically deny Peterson and therefore all of his arguments from being able to do that here as to focus on his free speech points specifically. While having wacky, questionable ideas regarding mythology, culture and psychology that should be the subject of skepticism and further inquiry, Peterson has valid concerns regarding intellectual freedom in regards to that legislation.
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Private E Hamboyan - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 14:21:23 EST ID:Ex0BR9CJ No.4727870 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4727865

Didn't he also repeatedly poke a stubborn kid "hard enough but not too hard" to get him to open his mouth, jam some food in there and then hold the mouth shut? The kid wasn't eating and it was getting dangerous or something.
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Bigblunts Bongingford - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 14:30:36 EST ID:kXuZj3jh No.4727877 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727868
Need more people on /b/ like this who actually know what they're talking about. Perfect picture for that post too.
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Dr. T'Pan - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 15:00:49 EST ID:HXXpheM0 No.4727886 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727877
For real. Becoming "conservative" (bet this motherfucker doesn't even vote) just because you think you should since you're getting older is some retarded shit.
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MarthaMommerford.dat - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 15:19:22 EST ID:ILDM1Kgn No.4727895 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4727868
Conservative as in libertarian.
>>4727886
You dumb motherfucker hahaha you intentionally misinterpret the post (I hope) and then claim victory, what a fucking dumbass.
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Donald Draper - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 15:19:48 EST ID:tBxjGP7i No.4727896 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727865
Is this that "literally false, metaphorically true" thing in action?
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Donald Draper - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 15:32:13 EST ID:tBxjGP7i No.4727904 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727895
>Conservative as in libertarian.
That's only half of a definition.
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Todd Duffee - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 15:37:56 EST ID:xiNFj+an No.4727908 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4727895
Right-libertarians in this country have spent exactly zero time and energy to effect social freedom.
If you cared at all about freedom, you wouldn't be aligned with conservatives.
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MarthaMommerford.dat - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 16:20:16 EST ID:ILDM1Kgn No.4727932 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4727908
fuck off commie, you're so full of commie shit you can't even think straight. Marx has pumped so much jewish semen up your ass it's coming out your mouth.
"social reform" means simply to vote and strive for your ethos. More freedom = less state / government.

True freedom means you make your own way and don't restrict and burden others just because you're "poor" and """"disenfranchised"""". You put your face in a book and read to get some learnin in ya then you work and make money and you instil the same healthy ethics in your kids so they don't join a gang but go to school and work hard. You stay on the right side of the law even if it's tough. There's real pride in that. There's real honor in that. Unlike some MS-13 animal killing randomly.
>If you cared at all about freedom, you wouldn't be aligned with conservatives.
If conservatives want to give people more freedom and the responsibility that comes with it. Then I guess that's why. As opposed to gender quotas and more state control corruption of the Democraps.

That pic:
>business owners
here he reveals himself to be a neet little commie faggot with no actual work experience just like daddy Marx.
oh look he's an internet comics drawer... imagine my surprise.
Do you people (liberal use of the word) even know that something like 90% of jobs in the US are thanks to small business owners? THat's companies with less than 50 employees if I'm not mistaken.

Ohhh the big bad "BUSINESS WONERS" are gonna suck your blood!!! Pathetic, really exposes your delusion.

YOU CAN BE A BUSINESS OWNER TOO YOU DUMB FAGGOT. Let's see how you feel when you pour countless hours of your life into an org often underpaid and then years down the line when you're up and running you can't even fire people who do a shitty job because politicians in DC and worms who draw cartoons on the internet and vote democrap think they can decide better than you.

The ironic thing about the commie drivel in the pic is "control", the collusions and veiled monopolies of the mega corps is protected BY THE STATE. They are one and the same. It's a revolving door and you already know this. No bid contracts, insider info, revolving door, policies to block competition... Big money sleeps with big money.
God you're fucking stupid. What happened in the 2008 financial crisis? SOCIALISM in the form of bailouts FOR THE RICH, banks, auto industry, Hollywood (feel free to look up the recipients of masses of tax dollars in the bailouts) and who got the screw? The little guys, no socialism for you. Did you ever stop to think why Communist countries were incredibly corrupt? Can you see the similarities?
Let me spell it out for you and you can look at actual history with this in the back of your mind: Communism (and it's lighter form Socialism) was a ploy by power hungry genocidal dictators to take power over a nation easily by fooling peasants. By telling them oh the aristocracy is bad! The capitalists are bad! look they have thing andu no have thing! Together comrade we will take over all the things and share equally!
Well it turn out (as the old soviet saying goes) some people are more equal than others. And if you're not from the military or other influential families you will be just as much a peasant. It's a scam, read history. Some of the leaders / instigators meant well but were naïve and dumb others know what they were doing. And the naïve and zealous are promptly liquidated when power has been seized. The ones who come to power are the military, the police, the rich / connected. Why would it be different now?

End of conversation.
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Krillian - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 16:22:17 EST ID:WyJBdMq7 No.4727933 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4727932
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Beauty Sidney - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 16:25:40 EST ID:nJkrco7e No.4727934 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4727932
you sound like a reasonable, logic driven chap.
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Billy Penishands - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 16:30:50 EST ID:VeIz4kSZ No.4727936 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727934
that pic is the funniest thing I've seen all week.
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Anthony Bourdain - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 16:31:50 EST ID:iMlDGinw No.4727937 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4727932
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MarthaMommerford.dat - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 16:33:11 EST ID:ILDM1Kgn No.4727938 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3qkf3bajd4
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MarthaMommerford.dat - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 16:37:03 EST ID:ILDM1Kgn No.4727939 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4727934
Giving other people more power over me will increase my freedom!
Way more logical! Solid. I have to use swearword to make it interesting for the MTV generation. What can I say I'm a product of my time.
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Austin Powers - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 16:40:17 EST ID:utoiCvkb No.4727940 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727859
but 18 year olds are adults
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Krillian - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 16:54:34 EST ID:WyJBdMq7 No.4727943 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4727939

>Giving other people more power over me will increase my freedom!
>he says ironically while advocating his own enslavement to the capitalist class that rules his country and monopolizes his markets
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Nell Marrystodge - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 16:57:54 EST ID:RFxPQjQo No.4727944 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727939
People already objectively have power over you. Our mode of production necessitates social labor. Although it allows private accumulation, that only occurs with the outlay of social labor.

I'm sorry that this "existing in social relations" thing is so alien to you, but consider that maybe your society has just conditioned you to find anything other than near total social isolation, anomie, and individuation at the expense of impotence as not normal.
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Kendall Grove - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 17:05:44 EST ID:bruBGo3D No.4727948 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727940
that maybe by law, but they sure as hell dont think like adults. If anything, they should increase that age to 21, hell even 25. Voting should be at the age of 25.
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MarthaMommerford.dat - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 17:09:15 EST ID:ILDM1Kgn No.4727949 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I think you fellas will relate to about 1 in 10 people after watching this 3 minute clip if you catch my drift.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-Ur71ZnNVk
Jordan Peterson | The Most Terrifying IQ Statistic

>>4727943
How do you know what I advocate? I haven't advocated anything to you but anti-communism / socialism.
>>4727944
How does that negate libertarianism? I'm not advocating anarchy. You're making wild assumptions. Just agree that I'm right and we can end this butt fucking contest right here while your colons are still intact. (Not that commie guy though, Marx already tore that bitch up.)
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Nell Marrystodge - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 17:09:46 EST ID:RFxPQjQo No.4727950 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727948
No one should vote for representatives, people of tax paying age should be drawn by lots to have an effective and actual say over their real conditions of existence.
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Nell Marrystodge - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 17:17:43 EST ID:RFxPQjQo No.4727953 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4727949
It "negates" libertarianism because libertarianism imagines "individuals" as these self-contained atomic units which occasionally bump into each other but otherwise don't have any effect on each other. This is what's really ridiculous. Individuals are produced within society through, most importantly, the social relations that govern the material reproduction of human society.

There is no question of whether or not people will have power over you. The particular form that this power takes in our society is a standard eight hours a day of pure totalitarianism, for students and working adults. What communists are advocating is the collective control and operation of that power, so that we can use it to create freedom for ourselves. This requires the end of one section of society's monopolization of the means of production at the exclusion of the working class, and the ownership of the means of production in common by all workers, to be put to use in service of a common plan.
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MartinSucklestot.dot - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 17:28:29 EST ID:VAwC9DFu No.4727954 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4727953
I work 40 hours a week and I can't wait for UBI.
I'll finally be able to pursue my hobbies and passions with the other 128 hours I already have every week. Naw, JK, I'm just gonna smoke more weed and watch more pornhub.
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Nell Marrystodge - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 17:34:35 EST ID:RFxPQjQo No.4727957 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727954
That's respectable, I don't give a fuck what people do with their free time so long as it's safe, sane, and consensual.
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MarthaMommerford.dat - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 17:40:56 EST ID:ILDM1Kgn No.4727962 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727953
>to be put to use in service of a common plan.
Who will decide what that plan is?
How will you stop the dictatorship required for communism from being taken over by the same people you see as the bad guys? Police, military, wealthy business owners, power brokers?
You just gave the enemy a totalitarian state on a silver platter.

You have a serious lack of understanding of nature and economics. And an unfathomably miserable understanding of geopolitics and the order of this planet.
This is why that scam worked on peasants.

You can dream up all the fancy utopias you want in a vacuum sealed off from reality but actually think what you are suggesting would entail for the world and you will see how absurd it is.

Anyway, I gave yall something to chew on, watch the yuri vid and chew on that too. And stay learning, cos frankly you have a lot left to do.
I'm glad you're interested in politics, a lot of people are just too dumb and or give a shit. Keep learning. You'll get there. I suggest economics next, that'll deflate the commie jenkem balloon you're huffing fart gas from.
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MarthaMommerford.dat - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 17:44:23 EST ID:ILDM1Kgn No.4727963 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4727957
lmao, read some history. You're literally living in the safest, sanest, and most consensual time there has ever been on this planet.

Fucking spoiled brats. You're gonna be so embarrassed when you grow out of this cringe lol.
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Bob Blunton - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 17:46:10 EST ID:Cy9YGkQ2 No.4727964 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4727953
How's that practically gonna work though?
My conclusions from history are that people will follow whoever is either more charismatic or has more physical power, not logic.
Second point is that the only people who ever existed and could handle power in the sense of not abandoning their ideals for the joys of abusing that power are so scarce they can be counted on two hands.
This is why Communism will never be a reality - as long as these things are basic human qualities, and history shows us they are, capitalism will be better because at least it's dynamic.
Even the richest guy is not safe from getting fucked (the recent Hollywood scandals and arrests, Ponzi schemers, people going bankrupt etc.)
In communism there are inevitably, at least in the beginning, going to be a need for "leaders".
These leaders will be chosen for the wrong reasons and will fuck everything up for everyone other than their close followers/family/friends.
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Chief Doris - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 17:53:25 EST ID:PfaEA42q No.4727965 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4727953

communists are disgusting. they think humanity greatest achievement is the new slave or worker. Workers are made to be exploited. ?The weakshould fear the Strong

MIGHT IS RIGHT SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST!!!

More social DARWINISM less Marxist crap for weak people.
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Nell Marrystodge - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 17:59:16 EST ID:RFxPQjQo No.4727967 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727962
For the most part planning is as simple as specifying demand constraints and producing to meet that over the course of a planning period. This is easy to do when you have good enough estimates of supply and demand within the system, which is easier to account for than economists realize (corporations like Walmart do it all the time).

The main thing is that people will collectively be able to decide certain constraints, such as the total number of obligatory work hours in each period, for example. Computers and randomly chosen delegates can handle the grunt work which previously required a bureaucracy.

>How will you stop the dictatorship required for communism

There's no need for a state when class society is abolished. The proletarian revolution immediately abolishes the state through the liquidation of the bourgeoisie. Material circumstances, such as imperialist invasion as well as technological constraints, have prompted the ascension of bureaucracies in the name of the working class, but there's no reason to believe that this is necessary today.

>You have a serious lack of understanding of nature and economics

Actually my understanding of economics is nearly perfect, it's you who's standing atop Mount Stupid.
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Krillian - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 18:07:26 EST ID:WyJBdMq7 No.4727969 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4727954

Funny then, that UBI will ultimately be the consequence of the capitalist mode of production. It's almost of as if history moves in phases determined by the dominant mode of production, where the coming of a new, automated mode of production slowly renders the human worker obsolete and changes the nature of society's social relations forever.

Didn't some hot German scholar predict this back in the 1800's?
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MarthaMommerford.dat - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 18:19:55 EST ID:ILDM1Kgn No.4727973 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Damn, this thread really opened my eyes to Peterson. Just used to see his name everywhere but the vids are awesome. He reminds me a lot of T McKenna.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5cTyxJWZC7k
Jordan Peterson teaches you how to interact with anyone


>>4727967
ok you're trolling now. Got it.
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Korben Dallas - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 18:29:30 EST ID:n6BtYojy No.4727975 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727973
no, this is just how psychotic they are
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Korben Dallas - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 18:34:24 EST ID:n6BtYojy No.4727978 Ignore Report Quick Reply
HEHEHHEHEHE I USED TO BE A REAL LEFT WINGER BUT THEN I SAW THE CONVINCING ACT OF DR JORDAN PETERSON AND I SAW HOW MANY PEOPLE SUBSCRIBED AND I DECIDED THAT I COULD SEND JUICIER SOCIAL SIGNALS IF I STARTED REGURGITATING SOME OF THE THINGS HE SAID

COMMUNISM IS BAD LOL
WHO CARES WHERE IT CAME FROM, RACISM IS PSEUDOSCIENCE, ITS JUST A COINCIDENCE THAT ALMOST EVERY SINGLE FORMATIVE MEMBER OF THE IDEOLOGY AND PARTIES WERE JEWS
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Krillian - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 18:41:40 EST ID:WyJBdMq7 No.4727980 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4727978

Shoo shoo, Big Hentai
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Nell Marrystodge - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 18:45:39 EST ID:RFxPQjQo No.4727984 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727973
Not trolling. Also, not an argument.
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Meare Naito - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 19:01:55 EST ID:CynyBvhC No.4727988 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727627
> This was long before he became known as “the most influential public intellectual in the Western world,” as he was described in the pages of the New York Times a few months ago
WTF is with the NYT constantly pandering to the alt-right?
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Phoebe Sishstatch - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 19:26:35 EST ID:NLk15wSa No.4728001 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4727988

The same NYT that infamously lied us into Iraq, tried to bury the NSA story to protect Bush, downplayed Hitler's treatment of Jews during WWII, was the biggest agent of legitimizing of the "Lost Cause" narrative about the defeat of the Confederacy, consistently runs hasbara for Israel's brutal apartheid ethnostate, has never met a war it didn't love, desperately fights to protect the status quo against popular leftist reform and dutifully follows a pro-corporate pro-war pro-austerity narrative in lockstep with its owners and advertisers?
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Phoebe Sishstatch - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 19:29:02 EST ID:NLk15wSa No.4728002 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4727627

CIA?
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Team Aqua Grunt Frederick - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 19:31:29 EST ID:dtOzO2/Q No.4728003 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4728002
If Peterson is a CIA plant designed to lead NEET men and form them into an army I will eat my own hat.
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Joseph von Fraunhofer - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 20:30:37 EST ID:fWymfDlQ No.4728021 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4728003
Out of curiosity, what is your hat mad of?
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Basil Forringhadge - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 20:31:33 EST ID:hpttbF7E No.4728023 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4727939
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HughTillingway.xls - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 20:40:58 EST ID:/h3nom0s No.4728028 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727732
Academia IS filled with that sort of stuff. When I took my English degree, I could analyze texts from the perspective of various critical theories. Marxist, feminist (real feminism, not 3rd wave), queer theory, etc. I was disappointed I couldn't do religious readings, so I had to shoehorn a reading of Frankenstein as God into a Marxist reading.

It was really interesting. But it's definitely ideological. And the ideology is leftist, generally speaking.
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James MacInnis - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 20:49:18 EST ID:QCqouIfa No.4728033 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4728003
this webm is obligatory in every jordan peterson thread. Do not allow Jordan Peterson threads to remain on the board without this webm.
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Barry Cockethroat - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 21:07:11 EST ID:dtOzO2/Q No.4728038 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4728021
Tin foil
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Vampiro - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 21:23:47 EST ID:wM3j/ir2 No.4728043 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4728028

I can attest to this. With the notable exception of my math, American history, and science classes. Every class I've had has had a left-leaning teacher in one form or another who doesn't hesitate to state their opinions on current political happenings.

Maybe I'm naive for thinking that people in college should be presented with neutral facts and information then decide for themselves what their opinion of said info is.

Perhaps I'm living in the wrong century. I'm fucking glad I didn't major in liberal arts.
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Katherine Pulaski - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 21:24:29 EST ID:9W+UKHl+ No.4728045 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4728033
lolwtfbbq
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Lass Simon - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 21:27:51 EST ID:VAwC9DFu No.4728050 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4728043
no-no-no
y-y-you can't be in college
o-o-only alt-right WIZARDS think that way
>trust me, I live at my mom's house and play table top games
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Jimmy Wang Yang - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 21:30:44 EST ID:hbhQMeZV No.4728052 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4728033
That was such a good cumshot but kermit the frog talking over it and his stupid face ruined it for me.
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Bigfoot Silva - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 21:41:26 EST ID:BowkiUKZ No.4728055 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4728043
Here's a crazy idea. Maybe going to an academic place of learning is simply antithetical to being a fucking retarded mongoloid caveman who still believes in deluded retarded Jewish deathcult fairytales about a goddamn desert demon.

Fucking kill yourself B.H.
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Esther Pagglebeg - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 21:44:59 EST ID:JAS3oEh/ No.4728056 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4728055
why the hate, brah?
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Barry Cockethroat - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 21:53:13 EST ID:dtOzO2/Q No.4728059 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4728055
You shouldn't hate people who want different things for themselves than you want for yourself, at no expense to you. You lump them all into the category of those who want to destroy you so you can hate them. Most of them want to live their own lives their way without being told they're wrong for living like that, kind of the same way us homosexuals want that too. You sick fuck prick.
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Alain Ducasse - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 22:24:05 EST ID:m9PpuE3G No.4728069 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4728043
>Perhaps I'm living in the wrong century

Nietzsche argued that there were no facts, only interpretations, way back in the 19th century. David Hume argued that reason is the slave to passion in the 18th. Pyrrho of Elis argued that absolute knowledge was impossible outright in the fourth century BC.

It's not that you were born in the wrong century. It's that you don't understand how science or knowledge actually works in the real world, and cling to naive idealizations of big-t Truth. You don't expose people to "neutral facts and information". "Facts" in a scientific sense tell you next to nothing, and coherent theories with testable predictions aren't formed by induction alone. The idea that you can just expose people to "facts" and then have them come up with their own "opinions" just shows how worthless you think knowledge actually is.
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Archibald Limpdicking - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 22:42:24 EST ID:sYnd26Bl No.4728079 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4728076
>They purposely try to imprint their emotions on their students over circumstances they have no coherent model of.

Could you give an example of this?
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NathanielForryhall.phtml - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 22:48:36 EST ID:b0pGDNpW No.4728082 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Probably is legit. I thought he was an awesome guy until he said women shouldn't be complaining about being sexually harassed in the workplace if they're wearing make-up. Still stands by his statements when asked about it.

Smart guy, great to listen to, lots of great ideas - also says a lot of other fucked up shit. The guy gets really kooky with his ideas. Gotta draw the line somewhere.
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Alain Ducasse - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 23:07:44 EST ID:m9PpuE3G No.4728089 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4728076
You're literally retarded if you think I'm saying "objective reality isn't real".

>You can make effort to be aware of your emotions

The problem is only partially our emotions. Reason and emotion are not opposing forces in the first place, as Hume argued: emotion is necessary (although not sufficient) for the operation of reason. Again, you're dealing in naive idealizations, shit you heard the Youtube Man say.

>objective reality is comprehensible

Sure. That doesn't mean Absolute Knowledge is a thing. Objective reality was "comprehensible" to Ptolemy, hence epicycles. The geocentric theory had a better fit to empirical data than Copernicus's system. It wasn't until Kepler came along decades later that the heliocentric model became empirically workable. Scientific practice isn't just "let me write shit down and infer Truth from the Data using Reason", and nothing is ever "proved" in science anyway, we just get sick of testing shit. Sometimes, we don't even test shit, a prominent scientist just suggests something and everyone follows along.

>doesn't mean the model isn't objective

The problem is precisely that no model is ever objective, and it can't be, because detail is always lost through the process of abstraction. Every model is wrong, but some models are more useful than others. This doesn't mean we can't act in the world. It means that our actions require further consideration than "this model is a 1:1 mirror of 'objective reality'".

>you suffer from a very disorganized mind

Not an argument.
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Gaear Grimsrud - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 23:15:13 EST ID:T5WQ2mbi No.4728090 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4728089
objective reality exists but none of us are actually experiencing it
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Gaear Grimsrud - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 23:17:18 EST ID:T5WQ2mbi No.4728092 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4728080
lol you are telling someone what they are realizing

you don't know what's in that guys head and what you typed there was the linguistic equivalent of a fedora tip
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Gaear Grimsrud - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 23:18:23 EST ID:T5WQ2mbi No.4728093 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4728091
>everyone is deluded but me so I cry about it
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Alicia Fox - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 23:25:59 EST ID:RFxPQjQo No.4728096 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4728091
I don't need true quotes when I can paraphrase. I thought I could trust you to simply look it up yourself, but I guess you're too stupid to even verify the claims I make. No wonder you believe any two-bit pseud with a youtube channel. You don't understand human knowledge because you haven't even attempted to think skeptically about the media you consume.

Most models make predictions that "contradict" empirical data. There's many reasons for this. The most obvious is instrumentation: faulty equipment can report bad data, while in many cases equipment can never give us exact data, or the data appears "noisy" i.e. does not fit 1:1 with, say, the predictions of a linear model.

Linear models even can work. They can be useful. But you'd be a fool to think that usefulness means being "objectively correct". No model has that degree of precision. It's wild to me that you think otherwise, or that you think scientists would ever be satisfied with calling their models "objectively correct". You don't understand the importance of skepticism and questioning in the making of scientific progress.

Back to heliocentrism: Tycho Brahe's geocentric model made better predictions than Copernicus's heliocentric one. The data was not on the side of Copernicus. It took 150 to 200 years after Copernicus for the heliocentric model to become mainstream. Imagine if we stopped at Brahe because the model didn't appear to contradict "objective reality" i.e. data. The maps we make of our shared reality are not arbitrary but neither are they exact representations of the world.
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Takeya Mizugaki - Tue, 05 Jun 2018 23:58:35 EST ID:frsYD/7z No.4728109 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Comment>>4727627
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Stephen Hawking - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 00:13:16 EST ID:nJkrco7e No.4728128 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4728079
Literally any Jordan Peterson lecture.
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Edward Pickering - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 00:16:32 EST ID:lAh8JSSw No.4728129 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4728128
pretty much. I appreciate the cunt for doing so much academic work that can be translated directly to racial-nationalist ideology, and for de-leftistizing lots of people so they can begin to educate themselves and probably conclude that racial-nationalism is the only way to survive period

but he is a horrible debater and is incredibly weak in his philosophy
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Stephen Hawking - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 00:22:27 EST ID:nJkrco7e No.4728133 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4728129
I don't think he's "de-leftistized" anyone who actually has a grasp of the issues. He's just given loads of alt-right kiddies rationalisation for the previously held beliefs.
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Daniel Jackson - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 00:52:25 EST ID:gLnaddQ6 No.4728147 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4728129
I wish you all would be open about your naziism instead of trying to back pedal and double speak acting like that's not what you are so I could laugh at more videos of you getting punched and crying about it. You make horrible thinkers but great youtube fodder.
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Stephen Hawking - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 01:02:04 EST ID:nJkrco7e No.4728154 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4728150
>hurrr
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Stephen Hawking - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 09:11:25 EST ID:nJkrco7e No.4728244 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4728238
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Lord Hotcakes - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 09:42:54 EST ID:MWy+N/fZ No.4728256 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727948
>they should increase that age to 21, hell even 25.

that's pretty stupid. Then how will the military have new easily influenced recruits?
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Pierre Wynants - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 14:12:38 EST ID:C4hFRlMK No.4728386 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727729

no, but it sounds pretty cool, right?
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Vampiro - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 14:41:22 EST ID:wM3j/ir2 No.4728398 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4728069

So YoU'rE tElLiNg Me MaTh iSn'T rEaL?
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Vampiro - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 14:42:52 EST ID:wM3j/ir2 No.4728400 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4728055

...kay.
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Stephen Hawking - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 14:48:43 EST ID:nJkrco7e No.4728409 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4728398
Have you ever seen a real number?
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Bigfoot Silva - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 15:19:41 EST ID:BowkiUKZ No.4728433 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4728398
If someone discovers some new way to calculate numbers that allows people to work with infinities and divide by zero, YOU BETCHA people will forget about math and start using this new method of calculation.
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LydiaBrirringdare.mp3 - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 16:15:38 EST ID:wBuvwazM No.4728461 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4728433
There already is. Limits and infinite sums. All the other math is still used, surprise surprise.
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Pinkie Sanchez - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 17:34:23 EST ID:cWZa/U3N No.4728505 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727980
That is a really nice Lennon Pic. Can you post some moar Lennon?
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Alicia Fox - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 17:54:50 EST ID:RFxPQjQo No.4728509 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4728505
> ~ e l e c t r i f i c a t i o n ~
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Phineas Gabblelock - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 20:05:56 EST ID:IGaxqb/X No.4728557 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's almost as if this entire site has brain damage from drugs
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Chani - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 20:11:51 EST ID:gjwkw6he No.4728560 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4728557
So what's your excuse?
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Gorgeous George - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 23:14:32 EST ID:WwbtxAGH No.4728653 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4728557
No joke, this place is going downhill as the mods basically forbid fresh blood from entering.
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Mike Brown - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 23:17:27 EST ID:dtOzO2/Q No.4728654 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4728557
Say it to my face fucker not online see what happens
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Phineas Gabblelock - Thu, 07 Jun 2018 00:08:38 EST ID:IGaxqb/X No.4728676 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4728560
i prolly fucked my brain chemistry with ketamine and benzos but im clean now and enjoying some nuerogeneration from weed and healthy living what's your excuse
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Edwin Salpeter - Thu, 07 Jun 2018 00:38:50 EST ID:T5WQ2mbi No.4728682 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4728653
if by fresh blood you mean more shitty /pol/ posters who are just going to scream about how they don't like black people then thank god they don't enter
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Neelix - Fri, 08 Jun 2018 00:59:56 EST ID:sYnd26Bl No.4729158 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4728682
Why do you hate alternative viewpoints that are all identical to each other?
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Jeffery Huffingcock - Fri, 08 Jun 2018 01:21:23 EST ID:cDP5DTYA No.4729166 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4728654
Oh man for a moment scrolling past that image's thumbnail I thought it was porn.
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Cecelia Payne-Gaposchkin - Fri, 08 Jun 2018 03:09:49 EST ID:cWZa/U3N No.4729195 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4727627
I like not following his 12 rules.
also, this is now a lain thread.
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JackDurryfen.xif - Fri, 08 Jun 2018 03:27:00 EST ID:uOiveWU/ No.4729202 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4729195
A rebel AND a cartoon connoisseur
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Thomas Doffingshaw - Fri, 08 Jun 2018 04:00:17 EST ID:55DNjdzB No.4729209 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4727638
Not Molly?
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Worker Martin - Fri, 08 Jun 2018 05:19:35 EST ID:eLPkRncY No.4729237 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727627
What a terrible article. I really hate people like that writer, even more than boring self help gurus like peterson. It's obvious the author is massively self righteous and butthurt personally over peterson's tame and boring statements, so they are trying to manipulate us to hate peterson by using rhetorical tricks -- while shitting on peterson for being a demagogue.
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Ricco Rodriguez - Fri, 08 Jun 2018 05:36:38 EST ID:NXsPiZpR No.4729239 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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what if i told you there's no left wing or right wing, but in reality people have views all over the spectrum on various issues
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Andy Milonakis - Fri, 08 Jun 2018 05:41:51 EST ID:2PChuwCv No.4729240 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4729239
LIAR! The other team are a bunch of subhuman scum! My team is the best!
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Cecelia Payne-Gaposchkin - Fri, 08 Jun 2018 05:46:00 EST ID:cWZa/U3N No.4729242 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4729239
I would tell you that you are preaching to the choir. Like derr, that's so obvious. I had to be like thank you captain obvious for being so obvious.

I mean maybe it isn't that obvious because so many people don't get it, but it is obvious if you have an IQ higher than 10. But maybe there is a giant inbred population with IQ scores below 273 degrees kelvin?
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Theon Greyjoy - Fri, 08 Jun 2018 05:55:27 EST ID:xIvA5Qzu No.4729243 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4729239
The entire civilized world knows and practices this.

Except the US it seems.
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Heinrich Olbers - Fri, 08 Jun 2018 06:59:02 EST ID:gjwkw6he No.4729249 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4728676
So in other words you're projecting. GOOD JOB RETARD.
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NicholasBrillerbury.dot - Fri, 08 Jun 2018 13:37:43 EST ID:IK5kcq9T No.4729385 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4728409
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_number
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Berlyn - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 10:46:33 EST ID:9VeFWBXR No.4731700 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://youtu.be/n_4UFMp19tE

You guys need to see this Dr. Peterson lecture. Totally changed my world
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Ensign Robin Lefler - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 15:33:44 EST ID:rQ1TMUAM No.4731873 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I have always liked Dr. Peterson. He triggers the fuck out of SJWs and alt-righters, while just giving simple advice. Nothing in his book is even controversial.
/pol/ hates his guts, I’m not exactly sure why but I think it’s cause he’s not an antisemite. A lot of leftists hate him because he preaches self-reliance.
I’ve never watched his YouTube videos (so can’t comment on them), but I enjoyed his book. From what I’ve seen he’s never preached or written anything harmful in his life, but there are thousands of triggered neckbeards around the internet.
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Nathaniel Drobberwane - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 15:44:32 EST ID:gjwkw6he No.4731877 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4731873
He's said something to the effect of pulling far righters to the center so that's why. I dislike him because he's a boring muppet with a droopy face.
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Johan Galle - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 15:49:19 EST ID:d81N1T4t No.4731881 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why does OP feel the need to use /b/ as a weekly blog about the life of Jordan Peterson? Is OP being paid by Jordan Peterson?
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Ensign Robin Lefler - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 15:51:59 EST ID:rQ1TMUAM No.4731884 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4731877
>I dislike him because he's a boring muppet with a droopy face.
Being completely serious, that’s the best reason I have ever heard for not liking him. Everyone else just hates him for not being subjective enough.
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Carme Ruscalleda - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 16:06:56 EST ID:xiNFj+an No.4731895 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4731873
>A lot of leftists hate him because he uses mystic bullshit to argue that current hierarchies are natural and desirable.
FTFY.

Where do you even get the idea that the left is against self-reliance?
It's the right who believe certain people should be able to create nothing while stealing the labor of others.
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Velvet Sky - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 16:19:50 EST ID:dtOzO2/Q No.4731911 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4731895
>argue that current hierarchies are natural and desirable.
ayy lmao when leftist ideologues have said literally this exact thing and Peterson fires back with a steely deadly stare, cold and powerful like the rising sun on a cloudless day; "When did I say it was desirable? At no point did I ascribe value to it, I'm merely pointing out facts, data, I haven't said it's a good thing at all and I don't appreciate being mischaracterized. *Squints in a hard-man manner, letting the leftist know they're on thin ice*.

Pic unrelated but also related because protect ya neck.
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Augustus Civingnack - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 16:26:11 EST ID:cdbrosSN No.4731919 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I wish I could throw a handgrenade inside a thread.
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Xena - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 16:57:15 EST ID:0hyAGIID No.4731939 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4731873
> he’s not an antisemite
Which is a surprise, considering that he preaches a conspiracy theory of Marxists exercising control over the academia that's basically the ol' "da jooce run everything" nonsense with a few key words swapped out for their PC equivalents.
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David Banner - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 17:09:16 EST ID:CSV9Ysmi No.4731946 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4731911
I'm 1200 years old and what is this devilry?
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George Bluddlehood - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 17:37:39 EST ID:NMFdqMb1 No.4731957 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4731939
To be perfectly honest what he says about social science departments in academia is nothing at all like anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. Like not even a little bit. You could spin it that way if you took heavy liberties with the truth but it wouldn’t be anywhere near credible. There’s just so many things wrong with your post I had to say something.
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Rousimar Palhares - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 17:39:15 EST ID:WCru5P3a No.4731959 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4731939

Zizek talked about this recently. He was trying to explain why he wouldn't debate Peterson. Zizek said he would debate nazis etc but Jung is too much for him, then he explained (vaguely) Peterson being a part of the fascist myth of jews corrupting the west. I thought it was kind of a shitty explanation from zizek, zizek being my husbando and all.... I mean you would have thought that zizek, of everyone at all, would understand the power of ideology and i think it's absolutely ridiculous to think that it's a silly thing when a man (jp in regards to post modernism or whatever) considers it a threat to the well being of society. Zizek hates those who don't see our broken system needs to change but knows there aren't any solutions, jordan hates those who want to change it by destroying it all with no plans, but knows it needs to be better at least. Instead of jp focusing on how it needs to be better or zizek focusing on how there needs to be plans, they fight amongst each other like two mad men and except the problems to go away when one of them are dead. It won't go away, jp and zizek are the symptom of our broken system, not the cause. If jp and zizek can't chill with each other then expect the future to be grim, the facists will chill with anybody long enough for their numbers to be big.

Like i don't remember exactly but it was zizek talking about how death ain't the opposite to life, so too it is with them two.

Also zizek made a cool point about how the reason there can't be a sexual duality, why there are endless sexual "types", is not because sexuality is so strong it leaks into everything etc... But actually the opposite, it is so weak and small that it slips into everything, not having a proper body or form of its own.
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Mike Hunt - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 17:42:58 EST ID:CHdSk2tX No.4731961 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727771

Nazis constantly did chrystal meth so if you're tweaking you're almost an Übermensch.
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Augustus Civingnack - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 17:45:59 EST ID:cdbrosSN No.4731962 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4731959
You should probably read this https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/jordan-peterson-clinical-psychologist-canada-popularity-convincing-why-left-wing-alt-right-cathy-a8208301.html
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George Bluddlehood - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 17:48:09 EST ID:NMFdqMb1 No.4731963 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4731959
Peterson rarely if ever mentions marxists. He mentions Marx-influenced French post-modernists, who went on to influence views of social scientists in western universities. And, let’s be honest, Dr. Peterson has a lot of experience in social science departments in western universities.
But conflating that with operating the worldwide banking system or secretly operating our governments is...so dumb it could have only come from someone who never went to college and saw a history department.
And for the record I think he was wrong a bit because those French post-modernists didn’t often have a good view of Marx.
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Mike Hunt - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 17:51:06 EST ID:CHdSk2tX No.4731964 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4731939

Just like those faggots who blame globalists for everything.
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Nathaniel Drobberwane - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 17:53:46 EST ID:gjwkw6he No.4731965 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4731964
The world is never going to be star trek tho
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Earthworm Jim - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 18:53:32 EST ID:N7BqaB27 No.4731993 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4731964
I’m pretty sure “globalists” is just their term for “Jews”
But maybe the alt-rightards just use it because Trump is super pro-Jewish
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David Banner - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 19:30:49 EST ID:CSV9Ysmi No.4732008 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4731993
>I’m pretty sure “globalists” is just their term for “Jews”
That's international jews.

Not all jews have the liquid financial capacity to be international. That's why millions died in the holocaust.

Honestly I watch that Hitler speech where he's blatantly dogwhistling about International Jews and it just makes me aspire to become an International Jew. Fortunately for Hitler most people don't want to vomit as much at nationalism as I do.
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Lord Hotcakes - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 19:45:14 EST ID:eTRfy2G2 No.4732014 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4731993
So how are Trump and his followers racist if he's pro jew?
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Nathaniel Drobberwane - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 19:54:01 EST ID:gjwkw6he No.4732017 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4732014
Jews are the most racist people ipso facto, they even hate themselves
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Winstrate Frederick - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 20:49:32 EST ID:N7BqaB27 No.4732031 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732014
Have you ever met a Trump supporter?
1) They're racist as shit
2) They do not give the remotest shit about consistency
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Allan Sandage - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 00:21:02 EST ID:bAjRw/2C No.4732080 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732031
I’ve met plenty of people who voted for trump and their all pretty normal. Can’t say much for the avid supporters. Seriously though who the hell did you/would you vote for? Hillary? Cause she’s clearly a way worse person. Or did you waste the vote on Gary or Jill?
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Pierre Troisgros - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 01:43:01 EST ID:CynyBvhC No.4732091 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732080
> Cause she’s clearly a way worse person.
No. There's a shitload to criticize of Hillary, but anyone with half a brain and half a heart can see how trump is far worse. As a person, as a public figure, and as an elected official.
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Winstrate Frederick - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 01:51:50 EST ID:N7BqaB27 No.4732094 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732080
Honestly I don’t blame anyone for voting for Trump, given what we knew at the time. But anyone who still thinks Trump was a good idea more than 4 months into his presidency is clearly drinking gallons of kool-aid

Anyway he won’t be around long.
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Tasslehoff Burrfoot - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 02:09:25 EST ID:Xo50w0aw No.4732098 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732091

Lol literally the only difference is people wouldn't critique Hillary as hard when the economy tanks again and a war arrives. The military industrial complex was safer with Hillary because she knows how to give lip service via public relations slightly better than Trump and has more respect from powerful people.

I love how you liberals support the same shit us right wingers support without even realizing it. You fools see one politician feign alternativism and eat it up. We did not sugar coat Trump. We want him in to stop globalist acts against a certain race
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Robert Rodriguez - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 02:27:20 EST ID:vpEo9AK9 No.4732103 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732091
Actually anyone with half a brain realizes american politics is a puppet theatre.
But keep pretending you're intelligent while implying people should have voted.
Because oh no THIS TIME it's important because trump right? if you didn't vote democrat then it's SUPER BAD AND IMPORTANT THIS TIME
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Smirky McFlash - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 02:37:23 EST ID:sYnd26Bl No.4732104 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732103
You're right it's a puppet theater, but it's such a clusterfuck of a puppet theater that it works more or less like normal politics.

But the one thing that's more of a puppet theater than American politics is American business. That's the basis on which Trump is far worse than Hillary. Hillary is a career politician, but at least that's her career.
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Robert Rodriguez - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 02:43:29 EST ID:vpEo9AK9 No.4732108 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732104
how is "at least that's her career" a goid thing? one thing I hope the trump administration will cause is an even lower voting rate because he doesn't have the skills a professional politician has.
with hillary it would just be the same dumb people keep being dumb like with obama who was an amazing actor and skillful at blinding people.
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Smirky McFlash - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 03:40:42 EST ID:sYnd26Bl No.4732125 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732108
Why would you want a lower voting rate? All that does is make certain dedicated voting blocs waaaaaay more powerful than they should be.

And the reason it's a good thing is because the entire Republican platform for the last 20 years has been to make government ineffective in order to highlight that government is ineffective. You guys have forgotten what getting stuff done looks like. It's one thing to have checks and balances, it's another to have no coherent direction as a country.
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PhoebeBrummerstick.clp - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 04:06:23 EST ID:kHHR4HEL No.4732127 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732104
The thing that has made her career is how well she works with big business.
Let's not forget her paid speeches to Goldman Sachs where she said that she's great at deceiving the people.

Neither of the turds was a better option and an argument could be made that Trump was the better choice because Hillary's plots and tactics would have been more effective therefore more detrimental and greedy. Clinton would have probably made similar tax cutShouldn't we be playing games to see things that we don't see everyday, or experience an other perspective?s, in fact she mentioned such things in her speech that i cited.
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PhoebeBrummerstick.clp - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 04:08:09 EST ID:kHHR4HEL No.4732129 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732127
Wow my phone is stupid, let me fix this post.

** The thing that has made her career is how well she works with big business.
Let's not forget her paid speeches to Goldman Sachs where she said that she's great at deceiving the people.

Neither of the turds was a better option and an argument could be made that Trump was the better choice because Hillary's plots and tactics would have been more effective therefore more detrimental and greedy.
Clinton would have probably made similar tax cuts for the rich. In fact she mentioned such things in her speech that i cited.
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Smirky McFlash - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 04:14:55 EST ID:sYnd26Bl No.4732130 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732127
Neither were the better option because they were both swapped out versions of the real ideological exponents of their respective party grassroots "movements". The Republican establishment never trusted Ron Paul even as they wanted to cash in on his tea party draw, and the same with the Democrats and Sanders. So they transplanted much of the rhetoric onto the preferred candidate where it simply makes no sense.

I'm not actually saying that Hillary is the best choice or even a good person. I just think that her political instincts, while based on her own survival and consolidation of power, have a much greater sense of perspective and understanding of how her personal success translates into political success for the country. Trump has no such sense of perspective, and he's surrounded by people who would actually like to implode the system as a whole.
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PhoebeBrummerstick.clp - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 04:32:04 EST ID:kHHR4HEL No.4732143 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732130
Yeah that's a good point about her political acumen and perspective.

But yeah, also, it's just fuckin sad that no political movements that have any success are fucking real anymore. It's all astroturfed bullshit enabled by social media. You'd think it would actually help us but they've turned it against us with their propaganda and misdirection.
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Smirky McFlash - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 04:34:02 EST ID:sYnd26Bl No.4732146 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732143
So do you think they are deliberately turning it against us, or do you think they're getting sucked into it just as much as we are?

I can see both as highly possible.
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PhoebeBrummerstick.clp - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 04:42:09 EST ID:kHHR4HEL No.4732154 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732146
Yeah I think it's a lot of both. Like in Hillary's social media campaign I think there's definitely a case to be made of both. There were a lot of clumsy attempts at joining in on it and some that were just really skillfully executed in conjunction with a lot of the media.
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Giada De Laurentils - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 05:23:31 EST ID:cWZa/U3N No.4732165 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732108
I love all this appealing to the lesser evil. Haha why not just vote for someone you actually like? You have to be a total wimp if you make preferences based on who you hate less. I only vote for people that I actually like and if I like nobody then I go for some old fashioned grassroots activism because that is actually empowering. But it's like Jordan Peterson say's "you have to clean your room before you take on the world". So clean your room bucko and become a grassroots activist . nb.
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Smirky McFlash - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 05:27:18 EST ID:sYnd26Bl No.4732168 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732165
>Haha why not just vote for someone you actually like?

Because way back in history some moron decided that FPTP voting was a good idea. If you guys went complusory full preferential, your democratic system would be 1000% stronger.
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Giada De Laurentils - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 05:33:49 EST ID:cWZa/U3N No.4732170 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732168
suppose you wanted to change how the democratic system worked. Would it be as simple as writing to your congressman or voting for a guy who promised to change how the democratic system worked?
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Alice Mankintot - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 05:36:46 EST ID:dtOzO2/Q No.4732172 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732170
>Be getting raped
>Rapists friends are in the same room but not actively raping you
>You ask the rapists friends if they could please stop their friend from raping you, you even write a really nice letter
>They don't even read it
>You keep getting raped
At some point you just need to open your purse and take out your gun.
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Cameraman Clara - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 05:39:51 EST ID:xwWYzgXe No.4732173 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4731700
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Smirky McFlash - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 05:42:19 EST ID:sYnd26Bl No.4732174 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732170
Honestly I have no idea how that would go in practice in America. You might be too far gone already, and the two major parties have based their electoral politics on this broken system for so long that they'd be way too scared of wrecking the status quo.

But it is definitely the main problem with your electoral system, no doubt about that.
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Lilith Failburry - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 06:17:02 EST ID:0hyAGIID No.4732179 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4731957
Mate, he literally, literally claims that postmodernists are all Marxists in disguise corrupting our precocious youth and precious bodily fluids. Literally. Literally. It'd be one thing if he were speaking in euphemisms and his audience was too dim to get them, but he literally, literally says that it's a conspiracy to destroy the West or whatever.
>>4731959
You're stupid, and so's your analysis.
>>4731963
> Peterson rarely if ever mentions marxists. He mentions Marx-influenced French post-modernists
Whom he claims are literal, literal Marxists in disguise. Mate, it's not rocket science.
> conflating that with operating the worldwide banking system or secretly operating our governments
It's like saying that people who claim that Hitler "only" killed 10k Jews aren't Holocaust deniers: you're missing the bloody point. It's a conspiracy theory about a shadowy cabal that exists for the purpose of corrupting society for their benefit that operates in the open and yet somehow still despite that is supposed to be secretive and only the conspiracy theorists know about them. Whether or not they rule the banks, the academia, or the whole world isn't the point. The point is that it's a conspiracy theory of a certain type.
> I think he was wrong a bit because those French post-modernists didn’t often have a good view of Marx.
It's almost like Peterson is a conman deliberately bullshitting his audience. Almost.
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Hannah Goddlemeck - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 06:20:15 EST ID:+LPKl9yl No.4732180 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4732179

>It's almost like he's a conman

Well I never liked the guy. That boy ain't right.
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Saradin - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 06:28:30 EST ID:BowkiUKZ No.4732181 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4732179
Nevermind that calling post-modernists Marx-influenced is fucking retarded because EVERY POLITICAL AND PHILOSOPHICAL MOVEMENT SINCE MARX WROTE HIS WORK IS MARX-INFLUENCED.

GODDAMN PETERSON HIMSELF IS MARX-INFLUENCED.

It's like trying to start a non-Platonic philosophy. YOU FUCKING CAN'T BECAUSE IT'S HISTORICALLY SUCH A FORMATION POINT FOR EVERY SCHOOL OF THOUGHT GOING FORWARD!

Of course, Peterson being just a fucking psychologist doesn't fucking understand that shit.
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Lilith Failburry - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 06:30:30 EST ID:0hyAGIID No.4732182 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732181
Fair point, but a wee bit too cerebral for Kermit's audience.
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Hannah Goddlemeck - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 06:33:12 EST ID:+LPKl9yl No.4732183 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732181

>Peterson being just a psychologist doesn't understand shit.

Probably my biggest gripe. People are going around acting like he has the intellectual authority of a messiah
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Smirky McFlash - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 06:37:29 EST ID:sYnd26Bl No.4732185 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732181
>>4732179
The most ridiculous thing about it is that there are so many legitimate reasons to think a large portion of academic thought is flawed, but the idea that's it's flawed because it's Marxist is fucking stupid.

My mum told me once that the 80s New York psychology scene was like walking into a Woody Allen movie. Everyone would go on about psychoanalysis and how their primal therapy was going and all that shit. Peterson is hitting upon a real issue in niche academic circles that devolve into pseudo-scientific wank, but going off on the "Cultural Marxism" meme just makes him another facet of that issue.
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Otto Struve - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 07:21:43 EST ID:CSV9Ysmi No.4732195 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732183
He's preaching such basic self-help shit and telling interesting stories while he does it.

It's not even like nobody's done this on Youtube before, I don't get the craze.
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Cornelius Chinkinwit - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 07:42:51 EST ID:aPU5njjm No.4732197 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Lol Marx is still a boogey man to a lot of people in America and the few other far right nations. Learning his works pre university in America is a no no. That's why when Americans in debt themselves to get real education they become overloaded and scream
"Marxist indoctrination"
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Smirky McFlash - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 07:57:15 EST ID:sYnd26Bl No.4732200 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4732197
Ironically, there's been far more hard and soft censorship and persecution of Communists in America than there ever has been of Nazis.
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Hannah Goddlemeck - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 08:04:14 EST ID:+LPKl9yl No.4732202 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732200

Butt-raping jolly african-american commies making love to MY daughter??? Look, if ANYONE is gonna be making love to my daughter you better believe it's gonna be ME, bubs.

Never in my day... Jesus lordy. God damn sodomizing space commies... mumble grumble... butt-sex... mumble mumble
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Smirky McFlash - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 08:35:45 EST ID:sYnd26Bl No.4732203 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4732202
It'll be alright so long as you buy fresh paper towels.
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Lilith Failburry - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 08:56:43 EST ID:0hyAGIID No.4732212 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4732202
> Look, if ANYONE is gonna be making love to my daughter you better believe it's gonna be ME, bubs.
You were specifically referencing this, weren't you?
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Urbain Le Verrier - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 09:07:40 EST ID:lZcNf+KP No.4732217 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732212

>anarcho_capitalism

I lol'd. Every fucking time
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Yeggie - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 10:28:00 EST ID:Yu/kZC7x No.4732262 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4732179

You a boring hoe, and your reasons to be upset about jp stinks like you.
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Winstrate Frederick - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 10:29:59 EST ID:N7BqaB27 No.4732264 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732179
But your post is still wrong when you try to claim it’s a conspiracy running everything akin to Jewish bankers etc.
It’s not even a conspiracy tbh.
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Lilith Failburry - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 10:39:16 EST ID:0hyAGIID No.4732273 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732264
> It’s not even a conspiracy
"De joo— academics are working undercover to spread Marxism among our youth" isn't a fucking conspiracy theory to you? Come on, mate, even /pol/ should know better than this.
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Yeggie - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 10:45:04 EST ID:Yu/kZC7x No.4732283 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732273

When was this said?
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Winstrate Frederick - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 10:45:28 EST ID:N7BqaB27 No.4732284 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732273
I really hope you’re not trying to conflate me with /pol/ the same way you conflate a social science professor’s experienced opinion of social science departments.
Welcome to 420chan; you can click a poster’s ID and see all my posts ITT criticizing Trump and his supporters.
And no, still, even what you’re implying is nothing like Jewish conspiracy theories tbh. You just need to get over it.
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Lilith Failburry - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 10:58:29 EST ID:0hyAGIID No.4732297 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732284
> what you’re implying is nothing like Jewish conspiracy theories
Well, congratulations, you're a fucking idiot who might as well be a Trump supporter for how easy you are to dupe.
No, really, with each statement you're only digging yourself in deeper.
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Lilith Failburry - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:01:21 EST ID:0hyAGIID No.4732299 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732283
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VwG6oaFxJs
This, IIRC.
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Yeggie - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:10:17 EST ID:Yu/kZC7x No.4732314 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732299

Mmmmmhh.... Dude. I mean what do you think he even meant, teaching Marxism undercover? Zizek is worried about the fascists or "far right" and jp is worried about tht "far left". I can see how both might be misunderstood as some sort of paranoia with conspiracy theories, but if that's all they can get from those two, then it is a bad, not cool.
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Saradin - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:19:37 EST ID:BowkiUKZ No.4732324 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732314
Zizek is worried about many things. He's worried about the far right, he's worried about the liberals/libertarians, he's worried about totalitarianism, he's worried about Chinese hybrid capitalist-communism...
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Yeggie - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:30:52 EST ID:Yu/kZC7x No.4732330 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732324

But it's always the same point isn't it? A call for solutions where sitting down and thinking is needed first. It's always the trashcan of ideology.
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Lilith Failburry - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:34:45 EST ID:0hyAGIID No.4732332 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732314
> what do you think he even meant, teaching Marxism undercover?
He's selling a narrative to vulnerable young men desperately in need of an explanation why didn't life turn out okay for them despite all the propaganda blasting them 24/7 about how they're going to have a mansion, a yacht, and a supermodel of a wife who lives for the sole purpose of making them ejaculate as much as possible. He's a conman selling ideology to an audience eager to buy into it. What's not to get?
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Yeggie - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:38:57 EST ID:Yu/kZC7x No.4732335 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732332

I get that's what you think his intentions are, btw, what ideology is that then? But what I'm asking is, would they need to teach it undercover? What's even meant with undercover, do they dress up as Spiderman and talk about Marxism or post M stuff?
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Lilith Failburry - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:48:44 EST ID:0hyAGIID No.4732340 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732335
> what ideology is that
Does it even matter? It utterly lacks in substance and exists for no other reason than desperate young men demanding that it does. Call it alt-right, alt-lite, fascism, conservatism, libertarianism, liberalism, social democracy, democratic socialism, fourth worldist neo-Polpotism, whatever, it doesn't matter, it will disappear into ether just as soon as the demand for it will inevitably dry up, and for Kermit's own sake, I hope that he makes a million or two out of it to put into a bank and invest into something before that happens.
> would they need to teach it undercover?
Look up Marxists who teach Marxism today?
The short answer is no, they really don't; on the contrary, they benefit from being as open about it as possible, barring explicit calls for violence. As I said several times already, the claim that Marxists are infiltrating anything is laughable and the people who espouse that view should under no circumstances be taken seriously.
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Yeggie - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 11:55:19 EST ID:Yu/kZC7x No.4732345 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732340

Well I mean he did get into a lot of trouble for hating on that anti free speech and pro transgender bill, are you sure that what you heard wasn't just that the academy thingy group is often one sided, in for example concerning social justice?
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Lilith Failburry - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 12:04:39 EST ID:0hyAGIID No.4732349 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732345
> he did get into a lot of trouble for hating on that anti free speech and pro transgender bill
He didn't. He really, really didn't. People who think that he did just don't understand how academics work. If you've been teaching for decades, you're pretty much utterly invulnerable to anything and everything that could possibly get you fired.
> the academy thingy group is often one sided, in for example concerning social justice
Yeah, it is, like it is with things like anti-creationism and pro-climate change. Do you know why that is? It's because some things are true, and some, ain't. Is that really that hard to understand? Science isn't a political talk show — it was never supposed to be """"""balanced"""""", and people who claim that it must be should shut the fuck up and go back to start school all over again.
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Yeggie - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 12:18:56 EST ID:Yu/kZC7x No.4732351 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732349

You are right that ultimately all that shouting and name calling just helped him. Not everyone is a professor though and especially no jp one, can't you see how being called a nazi for disagreement on nothing concerning nazism to begin with, might be a form of the strong vs the weak?

Also i don't understand, you say it's down to science and that there shouldn't be any balance, it's not that kind of place you say. But isn't it since JP is there? I would also think that for example concerning that bill, that people are naturally going to have their own take on it and as long as you pass your "tests" you are doing the purpose of university and what you personally think about that bill has nothing to do with the point of it.
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Winstrate Frederick - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 12:26:54 EST ID:N7BqaB27 No.4732353 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732181
>>4732183
>because he’s a psychology professor, he doesn’t understand the philosophy I’m into
Since you’re saying that, what are your professions and why do they give you a better understanding of Marx than a psychology professor?
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Sly McKief - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 12:27:30 EST ID:whjTukML No.4732355 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4727766
Do these guys look high to you?
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Lilith Failburry - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 12:29:41 EST ID:0hyAGIID No.4732357 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732351
> all that shouting and name calling just helped him
That's an incorrect assessment. The simple matter of fact is that the system that we all live under is currently undergoing a crisis, and crises are a great time for demagogues and scammer of all stripes. Peterson would've gotten his popularity no matter what, not because of what any particular persons or groups did, but simply because now is his time.
> can't you see how being called a nazi for disagreement on nothing concerning nazism to begin with, might be a form of the strong vs the weak?
Mate, do you realise that you just portrayed nazis as victims of unjust persecution? Yes, that's not what you think you said, but it is what you just said. Don't get upset when people who don't have the patience to explain literally everything in the world for you don't indeed bother to explain anything at all. Is that unjust? Possibly. Is it natural? Yes, it is. If you aren't willing to meet people halfway, don't bother getting offended when they don't do all the work.
> But isn't it since JP is there?
No, There are climate scientists who deny climate change, but it doesn't mean that climate change isn't real. Ever heard of this thing called "consensus"?
> people are naturally going to have their own take on it
People have had their takes on abolition of the Jim Crow laws and the apartheid state in South Africa. Who gives a shit?
> as long as you pass your "tests" you are doing the purpose of university and what you personally think about that bill has nothing to do with the point of it
Uhh… Uh-huh? In case you didn't know, Kermit never got fired from the University of Toronto. He still teaches there. He ain't a victim of persecution, if that's what you wanted to imply.
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Yeggie - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 12:44:14 EST ID:Yu/kZC7x No.4732360 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732357

Yeah it is his time, true. Odd how all that down to science stuff wasn't able to do shit even though apparently he's a nazi. What I'm saying is that if it's one sided in matters of social justice for a reason, aka "down to science" then it's just really odd that jp is there doing his dangerous nazi interpretations of Disney films and such. Also yes people have been against good things, what's the point man? That whenever someone is against your own way of seeing, you just assume they would also be against all those good things?

In any case, if what you describe is also the one sided view of universities, it doesn't seem as if JP has any conspiracy theories going on about the state of those places nor the effects of that post m stuff. However I know the latter not to be the case, friend, because zizek ain't no crazy mob mentality kind of guy just like jp ain't no undercover nazi. If only both of them could father a child together or something, that child would be the chosen one.
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Lilith Failburry - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 13:01:32 EST ID:0hyAGIID No.4732368 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4732360
> Odd how all that down to science stuff wasn't able to do shit even though apparently he's a nazi.
Yes, the academics are controlling the world, and their inability to send their death squads to silence the lone hero proves that their paradigm is incorrect and Kermit the self-help manual peddler is the hero we don't deserve, but need right now.
Aren't you tired of being this full of shit?
> it's just really odd that jp is there doing his dangerous nazi interpretations of Disney films and such
It's almost like the influence the academy has is limited exclusively to academic matters, and they aren't indeed controlling the world through shadowy means to censor some conman posting embarrassing videos on Youtube. Almost.
> what's the point man?
The point is that you're full of shit, my mate.
> you just assume
Mate, you brought the subject up yourself. If you're suffering from critical short term memory loss, you really should go see a head doctor.
> it doesn't seem as if JP has any conspiracy theories going on
You mean that what Kermit says doesn't serve as proof as to the claims he makes? Sure, why not.
> zizek ain't no crazy mob mentality kind of guy
I have said literally not a single word about Zizek up to this point. Are you sure you're talking to me instead of yourself? Are you high right now? You should take a break, maybe go for a jog or something.
> jp ain't no undercover nazi
I'm not saying that he is. My claim is that he's a conman who'll say anything that will result in him getting donations from his audience; if that stuff happens to be exactly the kind of shit that the nazis spout, then he will say that too, not because he believes in it, but because there's money in it. Is that really, really that hard to get? Are you one hundred percent sure you're not high?
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Frederick Goodcocke - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 13:24:44 EST ID:RFxPQjQo No.4732371 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732353
I think it's fair to reckon that most psychology professors are quacks, consciously or not. Peterson is in that group, because he's really into non-scientific interpretations of psychology, rarely grappling with data, and never producing experimental results that are reproducible.

The fact that Peterson does not understand Marx is pretty obvious if you just, like, have read Marx yourself. What he talks about as "Marxist" is fundamentally at odds with what Marx himself wrote and believed. He's peddling in Cold War era ideology, especially John Birch Society tier ravings about crypto-communists in academia.

Unfortunately for Peterson and his ilk their delusional ravings about communism only serve to expose people to actual communist theory, whenever the people listening to Peterson get the impetus to think for themselves and investigate the primary sources. This is how I was exposed to Marxism back in 2009, at the start of the Tea Party movement. I heard a lot of people ranting about the perils of socialism, which inclined me to look into it, and discover that I actually agreed with the socialists. Funny how that all works.
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Winstrate Frederick - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 13:39:13 EST ID:N7BqaB27 No.4732373 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732368
But you’re hitting a straw man; nowhere has he ever implied that academics are controlling the world. You keep pretending it’s not a straw man argument but there’s no example of him stating that. What he says about academia is very reasonable and there are Marxist professors who would agree.
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Aurora Rose Levesque - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 13:47:58 EST ID:Y+y/5nJR No.4732374 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732373
It is funny how close the Far Right and the Far Left actually are on some issues, isn't it?
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Lilith Failburry - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 13:48:20 EST ID:0hyAGIID No.4732375 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732373
> nowhere has he ever implied that academics are controlling the world
You really are very, very dim, aren't you?
> there are Marxist professors who would agree
Name me one. One. No more than one. Exactly one. Precisely one. Just one. Only one. One. One. Even just only one.
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Lilith Failburry - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 13:50:08 EST ID:0hyAGIID No.4732377 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4732374
Horseshoe theory is my favourite of all the ridiculous nonsense pushed by the right. It's as honest an admission of their malevolence and intellectual dishonesty as they're capable of.
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Kimo Leopoldo - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 14:35:30 EST ID:MEaeNoyf No.4732392 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4732377
Whatever fallacy its called, the horseshoe theory is bullshit, there's few similarities between libertarian (not US libertarian, real libertarian, or left libertarian if you prefer that term) and authoritarian ideologies. If someone were challenged about listing the similarities between say anarchist and fascist beliefs, they'd be hard-pressed to name a few, if one. Maybe the misconception comes from a hazy view of the political spectrum and what far right and far left actually means, as those are ambiguous terms to start with. Authoritarian vs. libertarian is much more descriptive of the major difference. Except that history's trials of communism were authoritarian governments, so i see how that can be confusing. A more nuanced understanding of what occured, that the communist revolutions in Russia, China, Cuba, and Venezuela, etc. etc. were failed revolutions. The economic system became state capitalist, not communist, and the governments authoritarian, not libertarian. In theory anarchism's major tenets are freedom and equality, and fascism's are less clearly obedience to authority and some people are superior based off of nation or race, so their antithesis of each other.

Anyways, Peterson seems like a shitty idol, but you do you.
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Yeggie - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 14:37:38 EST ID:Yu/kZC7x No.4732393 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4731962

After watching a video about the article, even though i can't make full sense of it, I conclude it's a awesome article and analysis of the interview, especially the last part:

"Peterson addresses what many of us feel goes wrong in the PC universe of obsessive regulation – the problem with him does not reside in his theories but in the partial truths that sustain them. If the left is not able to address these limitations of its own project, it is fighting a lost battle"

I like the last part because mid way through i was like "but zizek! JP is only returning the favor with his obsessive style!" and also, zizek views himself as a neurotic obsessive so yet again we see similarity with them both. In a way, JP is that which goes around and comes around for the left, and on the contrary, I don't think this is a bad thing even though it might mean the left is on a losing battle, because i really can't stand the obsessive aspect of them.
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Yeggie - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 14:41:30 EST ID:Yu/kZC7x No.4732394 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732393

Seriously though it's a big ass wow factor, that last part of the article. At least for me, it explains myself for myself in regards to the left. Amazing.
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Lilith Failburry - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 14:46:05 EST ID:0hyAGIID No.4732395 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732392
Are you sure you meant to reply to me?
>>4732393
> I like the last part because
It bashes the left even when it criticises the right. Yeah, mate, you're painfully transparent.
> we see similarity with them both
Jesus Christ, you really are so insecure that you must convince yourself and everyone around you that the shit that you choose to delude yourself with is shared with you by everyone on the planet, huh.
> I don't think this is a bad thing
Well, of course, because you view the left as a shadowy cabal out to get you.
Why the fuck do you even pretend to be """"""unbiased"""""" and """"""rational"""""" when you're so bad at it?
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Yeggie - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 14:50:17 EST ID:Yu/kZC7x No.4732397 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732395

Dude come on man Jesus. Smoke more and chill
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Lilith Failburry - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 14:55:59 EST ID:0hyAGIID No.4732399 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732397
Mate, your entire post history in this thread consists of your attempts at bullshitting your way through critique of Kermit. Your credibility has reached negative value. Why do you at all pretend to have something to say when you're just a fanboy with a raging boner for a conman with a stupid voice?
Don't act like a lying cunt and then pretend to be offended when people call you out on that. >>4732397
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Yeggie - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 15:06:40 EST ID:Yu/kZC7x No.4732400 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732395

I didn't mean to do that, my bad, and I don't think the left is out to get me. I get a uncomfortable feeling with the left, a feeling i try to explain in all kinds of ways, JP be the first one to actually stand up against it in a way i feel is reasonable and not rightist. Like I've often told myself i wouldn't give a damn if we lived in a matriarchy just as long as it wasn't achieved by feminism, there is all kinds of feminism and its not the type of feminism that wants a matriarchy or whatever that i dislike but the kind that makes enemies of all men, you know, how it's all justified by facts of men being shitty to women. It makes me uncomfortable because I think I don't want to be seen by women that way and oh gawd, how awful it would be for a little boy growing up with a mother that thinks that way, how even more awful to have his community affirm it. So yes, improve the situation of women and girls, achieve that true equality of outcomes that jp dislikes so much, but stop using the past and figures of enemies for it, no matter how grounded in history or whatever. Zizek is totally right when he warns against this, damn sometimes zizek just blows your shit away damn.
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Lilith Failburry - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 15:25:09 EST ID:0hyAGIID No.4732402 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732400
> I don't think the left is out to get me
I meant that "the left" is some vague hive mind of all the people who aren't you to you, and since you're a narcissist incapable of acknowledging the world beyond your own existence, you feel anxiety from "the left", which I shortened to "the left is out to get you". Yes, I purposefully make myself hard to understand by people who pretend to be extremely literal-minded in conversations where they feel the need to push an agenda; if that makes you uncomfortable, you're free to stop your act at any time.
> JP be the first one to actually stand up against it in a way i feel is reasonable
Of course. He's a conman preaching to people like you that you're special, that you, by default, own the world and everything in it, and that when anyone demands their share of the world, they're staking a claim on what's rightfully yours, which should make you feel enraged, because you don't want people to take your stuff, do you?
This all comes from a sense of entitlement fostered by propaganda of the society that you live in: the American Dream of having an expensive car to drive and a yacht to snort coke off of bums of prostitutes from, that sort of stuff. Kermit preys on your sense of entitlement by exhibiting the vulnerable position that you're in and the hollowness of the promise that the system has given to you, only instead of urging you to free yourself of the delusion of entitlement, he doubles down on it, suggesting that you lash out at everyone whom you perceive to yet more vulnerable than yourself, prove your right to exist by conquering your neighbour, so to speak. It's all very simple, primitive stuff that you have to be subhumanly stupid to buy into, which, of course, you are.
> the rest of the post
Yes, yes, you're only just concerned for social justice to achieve true justice as you see it; you totally are the first person in the world to say this, and you aren't, again, bullshitting your way through a conversation.

Aren't you tired of being like that?
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Yeggie - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 15:35:51 EST ID:Yu/kZC7x No.4732407 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732402

Stopped reading when you called me a narcissist. It's getting kind of comical now, buddy. Listen, you ain't a bad guy and especially not a dumb one, but the point zizek makes is that sometimes the truth is used for a lie, especially by people, in the psychoanalytic sense, who are neurotic obsessive. You concern yourself with truth and you try to get it all, but in the end the truth isn't the point to you (not you personally) because you are using the truth to make a enemy of someone which you then don't stop thinking about. It's like even though a guy is being cheated on, he can still be pathologically jealous. That victory you want from the evil nazis and capitalism, it won't be achieved if you make a enemy of everyone and so now it can be said that the fate of the world is in the hands of certain people and their choice between forgiving or forgetting their enemies, if they don't do that they will never mobilize them to their cause and rightfully so.
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Lilith Failburry - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 15:39:21 EST ID:0hyAGIID No.4732409 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732407
> you ain't a bad guy and especially not a dumb one
I know. :^)
> zizek
Zizek, Zizek, Zizek. Shut the fuck up, it's not about him. You only bring Zizek up to enforce the me and Kermit vs. everyone else in the world of whom Zizek is an effigy dichotomy, and that dichotomy is a false one, my mate.
> the rest of the post
Stop projecting, Jesus fucking Christ.
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Winstrate Frederick - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 15:41:49 EST ID:N7BqaB27 No.4732412 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I’ve never heard Dr. Peterson spout a conspiracy theory, but Ms. Failburry definitely has some Peterson conspiracies of his own to spam.
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Lilith Failburry - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 15:43:33 EST ID:0hyAGIID No.4732413 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732412
> I’ve never heard Dr. Peterson spout a conspiracy theory
Refer to >>4732299.
Fucking idiot.
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HannahClodgefare.deb - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 15:51:48 EST ID:v+K9Ju+O No.4732415 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ive finally checked him out and he seems like a supremely reasonable dude with a lot of love for humanity and freedom. I dont get the hate he gets, yall might be dumb
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Elder Cornelius - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 16:14:46 EST ID:W1xKUw20 No.4732423 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4732412
I dunno about conspiracy theories per se, but those diagrams of his trying to explain his worldview are some Time Cube-level shit.


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