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Shower every day by Laurie Juspeczyk - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 18:46:38 EST ID:3FEhaIUk No.4731988 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I've been seeing a counselor for 5 months for anxiety and depression and I just realized he's only dicking me around and wasting my time for $200 a week.

What's a good brand of rope to lynch myself with?
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Subramanyan Chandrasekhar - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 18:49:26 EST ID:lZcNf+KP No.4731992 Ignore Report Quick Reply
He charges $200 a week?? No wonder there are so many crazies in the US when they can't even afford to get help. Fuck me, that is depressing
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Shitty McCockerson - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 19:02:06 EST ID:6Gd/VMVb No.4731995 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4731988

>anxiety and depression
>anime posting

Yep, everything checks out. Carry on.
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Joseph Favre - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 19:03:33 EST ID:blj1ib4x No.4731996 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>$200 a week to talk
>wasting my time

Cactus is a good brand
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Jossen - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 19:05:40 EST ID:BK3yLNN7 No.4731998 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I've noticed there's a fine line. Sometimes they just want to keep you around to keep taking your money. But mental illness is usually a lifelong issue and they can't magically fix it, only point you in the right direction. They definitely don't get the full 200 per visit. a lot of it goes to insurance and the receptionist. It does get trickier when your government doesn't give a shit about your health or you can't afford the insurance.
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Jossen - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 19:09:50 EST ID:BK3yLNN7 No.4732001 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4731998
(And their rental fees/property tax and malpractice insurance. I didn't realize how much goes on behind the scenes in medical until recently.)
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Rich Boy Esther - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 19:10:48 EST ID:LEcv31vh No.4732002 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4731998
The receptionist earns that money tho
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OkYL7qwwGY
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Charlotte Porrywell - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 19:22:18 EST ID:HuLqzJhY No.4732004 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4731988
It's not your fault you fell for the "just get counseling bro, just throw money at your problems bro" meme. It takes a superhuman person to reject social norms in this day and age. Don't hang yourself though. The most comfortable and safest way to kill yourself is intentional heroin OD. Just make sure no one finds your body for 48 hours.

I can't wait til there's a mainstream social backlash against "therapy". Paying for friends is one of the cruelest scams in existence. And you shouldn't need a fucking psychiatrist to prescribe you psychoactive drugs. A doctor who makes sure there are no fatal interactions suffices, but really every single drug should be over the counter. If you're old enough to buy booze, you're old enough to buy anti-depressants or adderall.
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Clara Wollerworth - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 20:24:23 EST ID:9AwKZDCA No.4732025 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732004
This, but honestly you don't need any of this shit. Eat your greens, slow down on the meat (don't stop completely), cut negative people out of your life, and you'll feel better without giving money to the big pharma jovial jews
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François Massialot - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 20:59:16 EST ID:olHduLCH No.4732036 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4731992
Is this really surprising to people from other countries? I'm an American, and I haven't seen a doctor or dentist in years. I always assumed other countries knew how bad it is here.

It's refreshing that at least someone worries about me, even tangentially.

If I get cancer or end up homeless, I'm probably dying alone. Please help me.
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Spinal - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 21:24:36 EST ID:2DVU8qIW No.4732051 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4731988
Invest that money in drugs
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PhoebeBrummerstick.clp - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 21:42:38 EST ID:kHHR4HEL No.4732053 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Back when I needed it, I went to a small state funded counseling place. Paid $20 per 1 hour session and got a lot out of it. You are getting ripped off. Anyone that pays that much is.

If anyone here is interested in getting counseling but doesn't wanna get swindled, look for low income or state funded places. You might find better counselors there because to take a low paying job like that you'd probably really want to help people. That or you are new or bad at your job, but in my case it was definitely the former. In any case, it can't hurt to try if you're paying as little as I was.
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PhoebeBrummerstick.clp - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 21:44:29 EST ID:kHHR4HEL No.4732054 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also, OP, what made you come to the realization that he was wasting your time and dicking you around?
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Chuck Greene - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 22:19:49 EST ID:3FEhaIUk No.4732064 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732054
I originally went in looking for new perspectives and expert advice on my shortcomings and unsavory aspects of my identity but I feel like I've been talking to myself for an hour a week.
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Rico - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 22:31:15 EST ID:QD7WHBc0 No.4732066 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The thing about therapy is, it can't solve practical problems. And it's kind of one of those things you're Not Supposed To Say, but a hell of a lot of anxiety and depression is in fact a totally reasonable and rational and expected reaction to all kinds of fucked-uppedness in your life, your society or local environment, or your past. Therapy won't fix that.

What it can do is help you work out what the problem actually is, because a lot of people just aren't introspective or perceptive enough to work out on their own why they feel like shit, and maybe help you figure out something you can do to improve the situation. But that would require a collective rejection of the dipshit BUT MUH CHEMICAL IMBALANCE crap.

I mean, I get it, the BUT MUH CHEMICAL IMBALANCE crap was cooked up partly out of ignorance when they figured out that massive amounts of cough syrup made schizophrenics calm the fuck down, but mostly as a way to float mental problems past the ambient stigma in a culture pathologically addicted to the just-world fallacy. But it's still bullshit.

If you're depressed or anxious, 9 times out of 10 you have a damn good reason to be. A good, competent therapist can help you figure out what that reason is and help you figure out what to do about it, at least in broad strokes. But most of them believe the press releases and are therefore worse than useless. You can talk to yourself ad infinitum on the internet for free, after all.

Also, shouldn't this be in /qq/?
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PhoebeBrummerstick.clp - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 23:30:19 EST ID:kHHR4HEL No.4732077 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732064
Well that's essentially what counseling is but they're supposed to be a mirror basically, one that helps you see your problems in a different light. If you're not getting any perspective then they're not doing their job right, even though most of it is just having someone to vent to.

I'd say don't give up on counseling because it's a pretty effective tool, but 90% of it is having a counselor you feel comfortable with.
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Prince Bubba - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 23:30:46 EST ID:BK3yLNN7 No.4732078 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4731995
>Anime
You know you posted anime too, right? Non-Japanese cartoons are a different type of anime, retard.
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Roachpoach Traymoocher - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 00:25:17 EST ID:9h7OobvN No.4732081 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ask your councelor
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Sanford Black - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 01:01:08 EST ID:hX1wN2to No.4732085 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>4732078
>Outside Japan, anime refers specifically to animation from Japan or as a Japanese-disseminated animation style
butthurt weastallion detected
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Otto Struve - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 03:02:06 EST ID:YbWvR5Gu No.4732112 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732081
there are counselors, and there are councilors. but I've never heard of a councelor. sort of a combination of a counselor and a councilor, innit? and then there's the consul or consular, which might be where either of the former words come from. chancellor may be related as well. consulate. console, there's a good one; it can be a verb or a noun with totally different meanings and inflections. boy, I really feel like we've gotten to the core of it now. that was satisfying. I hope it was good for you too.
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PhoebeBrummerstick.clp - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 03:12:04 EST ID:kHHR4HEL No.4732117 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732112
If it's any consolation, it was good for me.
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Otto Struve - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 03:28:20 EST ID:YbWvR5Gu No.4732120 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732117
conciliatory indeed, thank you for your consultation
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Rudolph Minkowski - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 04:29:37 EST ID:2PChuwCv No.4732141 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732120
I apologize if this constrains your construction a little, but I make no concessions with my criticism: it could have been more concise.



Yes, I realize this is going in a different direction, but in order for this to continue we're really going to have to open it up a bit. My condolences on the end of a convivial, consensual construct in concert.
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Natalya - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 08:49:14 EST ID:GYCmnL3q No.4732206 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732066
Yeah this is what I always thought about therapy. Like if I'm depressed and anxious because my parents died and I ended up homeless, therapy won't exactly help me solve my problems. I place to stay and a job would.
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George Airy - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 09:26:07 EST ID:Re2hMKaO No.4732226 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>weastallion
woah
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Rico - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 09:46:42 EST ID:QD7WHBc0 No.4732241 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732206
I agree, but like I said, an awful lot of people are so detuned to themselves that they literally might not be capable of working out on their own why they're anxious or depressed, even if it's obvious to someone else. And knowing what your problem even is generally is necessary to addressing it -- it doesn't guarantee that you can, nor is it a fix by itself, but for a lot of people it may legitimately be a worthwhile first step.

Also, some counselors are social workers or other creatures with practical resources on hand to maybe provide some practical help. They're not all the same. And don't underestimate the value of having someone you're comfortable with to talk to, that human need for connection is baked into your DNA unless you're an actual psychopath. They won't tell you that sometimes you need to shop around, which of course is hardest for the people who need it the most. But sometimes a mild destressor can be better than nothing.

Point is, I wouldn't draw the conclusion that therapy is intrinsically worthless to anyone and everyone under all possible scenarios. That'd be painting with way too broad a brush. It's just that, as with so many other things in this broken culture, the press releases usually do not match the reality.
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Smokemoar McTokemoar - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 10:38:18 EST ID:K/f0lYIv No.4732272 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Use a neck-tie. Super strong, super soft. Just... they arnt long enough to break your neck, so get ready to strangle or suffocate, which might not seem to bad, but it really sets of the limbic system so .aybe tie your hands before you do it? Idk, im too much of a pussy to even kill myself
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Pike Queen Matilda - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 10:43:53 EST ID:DwGZqCqK No.4732278 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>4732053
Yeah I did that amd then one day the doctor was like "We cant treat you anymore cause you got a job." And then they didnt refill my prescription for SSRIs and SNRIs and I had to go off them cold turkey and completely lost my mind for a month. Thank the god I dont believe in I didnt start said job for another 2 months.
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Cunt McPuntington - Thu, 14 Jun 2018 12:07:05 EST ID:sGj7egES No.4732350 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Me being me, the only way I would stick around paying that much is if the Doc is writing me plenty of good benzos. It took awhile but my doc writes me 90x2mg Klonopin, 20x2mg Xanax, 30x30mg Restoril a month. At first before I got insurance, I paid him $450 a month. Now i have a $50 copay.


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