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BWB - turn it up to 0 edition by Aureolus Werrywag - Thu, 07 Sep 2017 00:49:16 EST ID:/swO3oH5 No.136935 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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OK second try.

posting new bwb because old one wasn't bumping. but i already posted on the old one so i gotta take another benzo to make this. i choose you: triazolam on etizolam on clonazepam.

What are you benzing on? What are you drinking with your benzo? How is your cycle yet?
Did you remember to write in your benz diary of your drug consumption? Why not? DO IT NOW!

BUMP WHILE BENZ'd
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Brain - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 23:41:07 EST ID:hOmWV+4Y No.137263 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>136935
> bumping 1mg lorazepam/7mg etiz
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Dr. Katz - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 00:25:34 EST ID:LNlHBoqv No.137266 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Had another 50mg diazepam (20mg TEVA and 40mg Mylan... the TEVA feel at least 1.5x as strong... fuck last month's Mylan fuck up) and 1mg clonazepam since the last post. About to take 1mg alprazolam. Drank a Corona, a triple whiskey coke, and now a triple whiskey peach tea. I'm debating on getting back into my benzo stash for clonazepam and lorazepam, but I'll wait. Not today... not today.
Arranging more shit for my friend. Dude was family. Everyone is taking it hard... Him and I would always drink and get benz'd out in college and when I began grad school. Good dude. Always wanted a good time.

>TinyTrip, Brain, High Strung, Sophia... thank you all for your thoughts and kind words. You're the best!!
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Bombastus Werrywag - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 00:45:42 EST ID:2DTAg/CX No.137268 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>136935
ayy /benz/. haven't connected with you in a while.

clonazepam, etizolam, and some triazolam
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brain - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 01:14:59 EST ID:hOmWV+4Y No.137269 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>137263
Bumping another 1mg lorazepam/.5mg clonazepam. Just destroying my stash, life has really been weighing on me recently
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brain - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 01:23:57 EST ID:hOmWV+4Y No.137270 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137269
>bumping another 6mg etiz and .5mg clonazepam

Done bumping for the night folks.


Personal favourites by Jenny Puffingnore - Fri, 15 Sep 2017 17:20:43 EST ID:cLC6U6ly No.137142 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I've used a decent amount of different benzos in my time, though I'm sure there's many on here who've done more. I just wanted to see what everyone feels is their favourite.

Temazepam gets a lot of flack on here, but if you use enough and manage to stay awake I feel absolute and completely at peace with the world. Very underrated benzo I feel.
Xanax is the absolute best for anxiety and for when you go on a binge. Euphoria.
Diazepam is just amazing. Lasts longer, gets me super calm and makes my social anxiety vanish in a flash. Allows me to socialise and actually strike up conversations with friends, colleagues and strangers.

Basically, different benzos for different needs. Just wanted to give a shout-out to my love, Temazepam.
So what's your fav benzo and why?
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Archie Shittingspear - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 10:49:34 EST ID:pO3FM+tO No.137211 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137163
Diazepam is what I get, For me it's an evening one or if I take it in the day It cant be a heavy dose or my body goes to sleep and gets jelly like. I love going for a short walk, popping a 5mg diazepam, getting home just as it hits and slumping in my recliner with a sick movie or show. Man I am excited for the weekend, It's been about 2 months since I had one.
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John Hannerlidge - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 14:52:20 EST ID:p7BKJkOb No.137214 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>1. Xanax
>2. Klonopin
>3. Temazepam
>4. Valium

I do want to try etiz and diclaz and see what they are all about. I know etiz is most similar to xanax so I might have to give it a go...
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Nigel Mongerstatch - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 20:21:27 EST ID:i09u2z38 No.137224 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Xanax is great for my anxiety but no benzo gets me higher than klonopin. Xanax can be euphoric for sure but it's not even close to klonopin for me. Klonopin is pure giggling euphoria and SLAYER.

Of the others I've tried, c-lam is dangerous and way too potent. I've actually gotten panic attacks from taken c-lam and it's way too easy to black out. Etiz is a good non-euphoric 'legal' anxiety solution.
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CrypTamine - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 17:03:28 EST ID:r9Mo32IZ No.137256 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Temazepam is absolute favorite... i guess because of it's hypnotic effect
on the blackmarket you never know what's inside. i think lorazam and etizolam is best for anxiety but dangerous when taking 5 pcs / mg or more.. lots of ppl wake up in hospital after doing strange things... might be the china antagonist stuff and maybe the reason it isn't prescripted
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Dr. Katz - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 00:32:29 EST ID:LNlHBoqv No.137267 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137142
Diazepam has been a long-term favorite, so obtaining a script roughly one year ago was a major step for my anxiety treatment. Clonazepam is a great benzo, but a lot of people don't seem to understand its use or "high" because it isn't Xanax.
Etizolam is very enjoyable, but barely lasts an hour for me. Diclazepam is a great benzo for GAD and for combo'ing with other benzos.
Alprazolam is what it is... it is GREAT for panic, but the rebound anxiety is too much most of the time. Lorazepam is pretty much shit. The drug is great at first, but the semi-acute withdrawal that I had and months of nausea after discontinuation are NOT worth it.
I've also tried a few barbs... phenobarbital, heptabarbital, and butalbital. None of these really "wow'd" me, but pheno and butal were great with benzo combos. I don't recommend this out of safety, but I was fine (annecdotal!! not safe for most).
Midazolam, triazolam, and temazepam are still on my list of RX benzos to try. I'm not really into the RC scene, but flubromazepam is interesting. Clonazolam and flubromazolam can fuck off.


Etizolam Clonazolam by Shit Blytheshit - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 10:23:39 EST ID:2YB1ONmQ No.137007 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So are these useful at all for anti anxiety?

Read up on Etizolam, heard it actually has uses.

Read up on Clonazolam, heard it is the devil.

Both are the only ones relevant to me because they will be mine soon.

Not familiar with benzos at all, but am familiar with chemistry, and a number of other drugs. Just had a few inopportune panic attacks fro my job and was looking for something that will relax me but allow me to function.
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Brain - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 11:58:39 EST ID:hOmWV+4Y No.137212 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>137208
Sort yourself out man. I was in that position and ignorantly continued with the benzos. Things are only going to get worse with the patterns you've shown us. You are abusing etiz and will hit a point where 5mg will just level you out and you'll need 10mg to get "high".

I get it though, those things will never happen to me.
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Brain - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 12:01:48 EST ID:hOmWV+4Y No.137213 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137212
Also can't tell if this is a troll at this point lol
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Isabella Cibblenere - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 14:54:39 EST ID:EKDsZr/C No.137215 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137213
yeah, might be. I started a benzo yesterday so I checked out this board today. I know I'm not supposed to drink on it, so guess what, I'm not drinking on it. I know I'm not supposed to take more than recommended, so guess what, I'm not taking more than recommended. I don't get op, everyone here told him not to fuck around with these things and he did. Could be an elaborate troll, the guy claims to have gone from riches to ruin in a few days because of benzos, I'm doubting it's legit.
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Doris Billingway - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 00:09:07 EST ID:2YB1ONmQ No.137264 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137212

I don't drink on benzos. I do happen to drink at the end of the night.

I've found wit useful when I need to get things done. In the sense that I don't have the anxiety of everything I do failing. I've gotten more positive things accomplished this past two weeks than I have for the past two months.

That first hiccup, that was a lack of tolerance and a lack of common sense. To set the record straight, I've had hundreds of interviews this year with no good end result. Someone with more experience happens to show up and take over from there.

You can tell me benzos are ruining my life all you want. But to me, and with physical evidence, my life is improving.
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Doris Billingway - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 00:22:44 EST ID:2YB1ONmQ No.137265 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137215

>riches to ruin

Riches to ruin is a bit of an overstatement.

I lost an interview. So what? I've had dozens this year. The interview wasn't even in my field.

As for the asshole who fired me from the construction job, he's part of their family. His wife doesn't know why he did it over something so trivial, my gf doesn't know why he did it for something to so trivial, but I fucking know.

He found two skilled laborers with free time. I was learning on the job. I used to be a fucking chemist. I used to design the chemicals you use on the daily. I was working with him because he needed help doing bitch work and I needed income. But now that he found a crew that can figure out how to construct without guidance, he fucking threw me away like a piece of trash and used FAMILY as a fucking excuse. That motherfucker didn't even have the balls to tell me the fucking truth. Keeping me on would only hurt his profits when he had guys that could get the job done in a hurry.

So fuck your judgement. You don't know shit. Don't pretend like you're above me, "Cause i dun hav no drinks."

Fuck you.


what will happen? by Anonymous - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 23:50:28 EST ID:Hhs39NRH No.137012 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I have a question about some pills I want to take. Clonazepam .5mg. I'm gonna be taking stuff with a group of friends this weekend. Some people told me I might black out cause other stuff I'm on. And that might be bad for me.

I take 100mg Zoloft Sertraline for depression, and .25mg xanax Alprazalom for Anxiety. I'm also a girl. And if you have to know, about 130 pounds...and some of my friends are guys...

I know Clonazepam is like Xanax cause it's a benzo. But is it stronger? I'm supposed to take like 2 or 3 of them with people, so what will that do with the other stuff I take? Will it make me black out? How much can I take before I black out? I have to take the xanax and Zoloft i take every day so I can't just do one or the other.

please help?
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Brainbastus Werrywag - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 01:07:37 EST ID:ubdIQtw4 No.137064 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137033
>xanax is a potent triazolobenzodiazepine
good post
euphoria ftw
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 18:53:12 EST ID:8+FfCjhh No.137129 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137064
Thanks, bomb alias.
Nice to see you're still posting
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Rebecca Bunway - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 02:21:33 EST ID:LltmAPmF No.137231 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>137012
are you worried about getting raped or something? if so, just don't risk it. seriously.
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CrypTamine - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 16:45:09 EST ID:r9Mo32IZ No.137255 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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you realy shouldnt... if they got the clonazepam of the blackmarked and they mostly arent the real deal but some research chemical antagonist. it also works but the risk is the overdose. you can seem sober but lose control and black out totaly after doing strange stuff. dont take more than 5 benzos, if it's fake you might wake up in hospital inside a straightjacket.

just dont get raped
dont be scared but have respect
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Fucking Girryville - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 18:21:00 EST ID:K4DwwT9K No.137258 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137255
>chemical antagonist

As with your other post you're confusing antagonist with analogue.


Preferred generic's and pharmacies by Nicholas Blummleridge - Tue, 19 Sep 2017 02:04:41 EST ID:p7BKJkOb No.137196 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Sup /benz/, a friend of mine has a prescription for 60 1mg xanax a month and has gone to walmart and walgreens to get his script filled, but has got the blue R031 (Actavis) everytime.

I was wondering if you guys have a specific generic of benz that works best for you and which pharmacies carry them
Is the generic deteremined by the pharmacy itself or by state/region?

I have found the s902's from Dava or the g3721 from Greenstone to work the best
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Dr. Katz - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 14:27:11 EST ID:LNlHBoqv No.137246 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137243
I've never seen the NA/1.0 pills in person, but I immediately noticed the Sandoz (GG) footballs in the bag. If you're a big fan of the R031 alprazolam (Actavis brand) I would suggest trying Greenstone.
IMHO: Greenstone > Sandoz or DAVA > Actavis > Mylan
I've never had the Apotex (APO) generic or a bunch of other, newer brands (NATCO, Sun Pharma, Aurobindo, and Vintage)

nb - i've posted one too many times on this thread for today
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Zeak - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 15:06:58 EST ID:88kBKsDS No.137249 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>137246
I think I have tried those when I was younger and later in life used assumed it had 2 g on them. I can never find greenstone brand in my town but atm I am lucky to be able to find what i can since I don't have a script anymore. I can get the following. (ro31 xanax. the Sandoz double g and the NA 1.0. and then I can find the E64 1mg kpin and DAN 10 valium. basically all I can get in my town. rarely random bars
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Phyllis Pabblestere - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 15:10:11 EST ID:jKOVJxhm No.137250 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137219
Which manufactures were they and could you link the study? I'm definitely interested

>Mylan makes terrible generics
I've heard this but never had them.

>The N/A ones seem shit to me
I have also heard this too

>>137246
I took your advice from a post above and called and found Costco has a contract with Dava to only carry them, although it threw me off when the lady called them 'Stada' the first time I called.

Almost all major pharmacies in my area carry Actavis with the exception of CVS carrying Sandoz. I've only had Sandoz once or twice so I'll stick with the Dava.
Although I've never had Sun Pharma's xanax, I definitely don't trust the efficacy of their medications. Had some hydrocodone from them that was fucking terrible.
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Phyllis Pabblestere - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 15:13:06 EST ID:jKOVJxhm No.137251 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>137250
Pic I found on google I forgot to attach. Nb
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CrypTamine - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 16:39:10 EST ID:r9Mo32IZ No.137254 Ignore Report Quick Reply
depends on what you need it for.
beeing manic / depressed, anxiety or as muscle relaxant

u can google benzo table and check out the pictures to get the overview
as in some cases you can go with legal reasearch chemicals - still damn addictive if for recreational use


Etizolam and "cup style" drug tests by Slippery Pete - Sat, 16 Sep 2017 20:35:11 EST ID:2EnpPJdv No.137169 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So, I'm on probation.

Before anyone chimes in and says "just don't eat any drugs" I know. I'm already prepared not to do any drugs while on probation.

Now, I'm assuming most of you here know that Etizolam isn't actually a benzo, but is a thienotriazolodiazepine. That being said, has it made any of you ping as a false positive for benzos?

A lot of the reports I've read throughout various forums are all over the place. Some people say you will flag as a false positive everytime, no matter the test. Others say it depends on the brand of test, if it's a dipstick, cup or lab test. Some people say they've passed dipstick and cup tests using etizolam daily.

I take a cup test (7 panel) twice a week at most.

Has anyone here taken Etizolam, had a cup style UA, and passed?

Like I said, I can just wait till I'm off probation if need be, but I really would like some GABA relief.

>thanks
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Nell Gorringstadging - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 23:59:50 EST ID:vcXVgWp+ No.137230 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137171
Clonazolam does not show up in urine tests.
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Slippery Pete - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 07:52:23 EST ID:2EnpPJdv No.137236 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Good new, errbody.

I called my Probation officer, told him I was going back on my prescription for Buspirone for anxiety (I'm not) but I also said that my doctor told me it may make me test positive for benzos and since they already have my script on record I'm pretty sure I'm in the clear.
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Brain - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 11:37:50 EST ID:hOmWV+4Y No.137237 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137236
Be careful man. It's not worth the risk of getting locked up for violating probation. Hope all goes well though
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Slippery Pete - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 14:49:33 EST ID:2EnpPJdv No.137247 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137237

What kind of repercussions could come about since they already have my Busprione script on record? I mean, the only way they could figure out that I'm lying is it they looked it up themselves, and the guy who piss tests me literally just glances at the pee cup and has me toss it out

I don't really see how this could go wrong.
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Slippery Pete - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 14:53:16 EST ID:2EnpPJdv No.137248 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137247

I looked it up and Buspirone has been known to cause false positives for benzos, so I'm pretty much in the clear.


I got banned on accident :( by Zeak - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 04:22:58 EST ID:88kBKsDS No.137234 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I posted something in one of the weed threads ans the pic link had facebook in it so now im banned :( miss you guys (made this post of a friends IP ) I couldn't figure out how to appeal so if a admin sees this i'm sorry and please unban me.
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Fucking Girryville - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 04:33:32 EST ID:K4DwwT9K No.137235 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137234
  1. Go on 420chan IRC (http://webirc.420chan.org/)
  2. Appeal ban
  3. Do something degrading or humiliating for amusement of mods
  4. Ban successfully appealed.


First time xanax by Henry Duckleberk - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 18:07:23 EST ID:UZtGN/bY No.137181 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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About to take xanax for the first time. Not going crazy just having a third of a bar (unknown potency), wait 2 hours and see whats up. Im currently on venlafaxine for major depression and anxiety, i wont be intoxicated with any other substances. I know this is a slippery slope to say the least, im definately inclined towards downers and im hoping just to experience some of that peaceful mental space, while still being functional. Ive only ever been into smoking weed and drinking.

Advice? What to expect?
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 23:12:27 EST ID:8Q1aoe1K No.137186 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137181

don't smoke weed or drink on it your first few times at least.

you just feel chill as fuck, no fucks given + physically relaxed

I'll take some etizolam now actually

enjoy OP
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SpeedDreamin' - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 00:07:47 EST ID:6nQLmNOE No.137204 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137181
>I know this is a slippery slope to say the least, im definately inclined towards downers and...

Let go of this anxiety. Preoccupation with such anxieties can draw one into precisely the territory they fear. Like when you drive or ambulate, your body has a tendency to follow where your head is pointed. Think of this as having your head pointed towards an imprisoning pit of sand, but as you devote your attention to its threat it is drawing you into its clutches.

This is not to say do away with being cognizant of your use - rather, try not to obsess over it so much.

Alprazolam may teach you to adopt a more relaxed perspective.

bonne ivresse
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Clara Clummersodge - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 01:22:09 EST ID:D76yVkil No.137205 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137181
>Advice?
Don't drink, relax and have a good time.

>What to expect?
relaxation, calm, sedation. Don't expect euphoria, benzos don't get people "high" in the same way other drugs do
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Fucking Girryville - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 23:07:33 EST ID:K4DwwT9K No.137229 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137205
Some people, myself included, get a brief wave of euphoria on the come up. With diazepam this lasts maybe half an hour after onset at most. It's basically a trap, because if you try to take more you don't get any more euphoria just more sedation.
So basically, if you're one of the people lucky enough to get some euphoria from benzos don't bother trying to chase it, you'll just catch the express train to blackout city.
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Edwin Shittingworth - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 02:30:43 EST ID:D76yVkil No.137232 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137229
>don't bother trying to chase it, you'll just catch the express train to blackout city.

this is 100% true lol. Many a times I've gotten my benzos refilled and gone on a spree trying to chase the initial feeling and then waking up with half my prescription gone hating myself


Temuzzz by Cedric Sobbercocke - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 17:53:04 EST ID:7HplH1cw No.137218 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Did i do well?
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Caroline Fenningmedge - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 18:30:44 EST ID:x1E9MLIx No.137220 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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al hamdu liallah, i hear temaz is pretty swimpledy swell my nigget, lots of reports of euphoria.
hope u hav fun! start slow doe each one is equiv in postancy to like 0.75mg of xanax and ive heared its kinda moreish too. i havent ever done it tho so if theres n anon who has pls chime along


epam vs olam by Cyril Sandlebanks - Sat, 16 Sep 2017 19:11:20 EST ID:6egkqpI2 No.137166 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Out of the benzos I've tried the ones that end in -epam tend to give me the best effects (I've only tried about 5 benzos so it' a small sample size as of yet). I know the chemical difference between two but I don't understand what it means pharmacologically.

This also makes me wonder why there isn't anything like "etizepam" or "alprazepam"
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Fucking Senningway - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 11:44:28 EST ID:6egkqpI2 No.137176 Ignore Report Quick Reply
pls respond
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 13:35:58 EST ID:8+FfCjhh No.137177 Ignore Report Quick Reply
IIRC triazolobenzodiazepines end in -lam while traditional end in pam.

The difference being that the -lam have an extra triazolo ring, they're often the benzos that tend to have real "kick" associated with them.
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Fucking Senningway - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 14:21:09 EST ID:6egkqpI2 No.137178 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137177
yeah thats correct, but for me the feeling of the -pams is better, i actually feel "high" instead of getting pretty intense delusions of sobriety that I get with the -lams. I mostly made this post to see if anyone else has the experience.

I also don't understand why there aren't versions of etizolam and alprazolam that do NOT have the triazolo ring.
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dr. m !gWLn19/oKs - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:01:49 EST ID:8Q1aoe1K No.137179 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137166

>why don't these type of benzos exist?

They do. Look at Clonazolam

>Clonazepam+triazolobenzo = Clonazolam

Someone can synthesize all of the drugs you've mentioned, just remember that any unknown drug could be dangerous in humans. Look up MPTP and MPP+ and ask yourself if it's worth the risk.

This is why I just do the ~1-4 safest RCs in a drug class and usually call it a wrap, like etizolam (not even a RC), phenazepam, and diclazepam (the only risk is diclazepam itself, in that we haven't used it directly in humans). Sure why not try cLam a few times, but for the regular life those are more than sufficient.
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Hannah Povingway - Mon, 18 Sep 2017 20:06:50 EST ID:UysRPQ/6 No.137193 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137179
I mean specifically why hasn't anyone made etizepam and alprazepam. I am very aware that many of the benzos we know and love have a tiazolo and non triazolo version, so why dont etiz and alp? If they were somehow deadly that would be a perfectly valid reason, however I've looked them up and i don't believe anyone has even attempted to synth them. I personally don't know of any benzos that have been overly dangerous or had dangerous byproducts but if there are examples of that id love to hear about them

Also I've heard the story of MPTP and it's a toxic byproduct of another drug that from what little i've read seems relatively safe in and of itself.

I know there are a couple drugs that have been made that both get you hugh and have extremely awful side effects. But since when has this stopped anyone from making and testinf new chemicals ya know? theres always gonna be some ballsy person who tries it out first


Ambien for benzo withdrawal by Wesley Carringbock - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 23:03:45 EST ID:rf6gn85y No.137011 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Would Ambien stop benzodiazepine withdrawal?
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Wesley Carringbock - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 02:13:57 EST ID:rf6gn85y No.137019 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137013
I am asking because I'm going through benzo withdrawal and I'm wondering if that would hinder the process.
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William Snodspear - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 23:46:43 EST ID:K4DwwT9K No.137039 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137019
Well yeah, it acts on the same receptors in the same way. Mechanistically there's no real difference between z-drugs and benzos.
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Shitting Smallridge - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 13:49:24 EST ID:AM2IXNTC No.137048 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137039
But it of course doesn't last as long. So in other words, yeah it'll be more helpful than drinking beer but it'll wear off soon enough and basically just help take the edge of the process.
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Ernest Grimbanks - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:40:41 EST ID:Ox/yCmUc No.137180 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137039
z-drugs are more selective for certain receptor subtypes so it's not entirely interchangeable but they're similar enough. Something is going on with them considering the crazy delirious hallucinations that you can get with them but not benzos.
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 20:09:26 EST ID:8Q1aoe1K No.137185 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137180

This. I recall Ambien being more selective for GABAa, whereas most benzos are non selective? Yet Lunesta seems to be non mostly non selective as well. This is why I hypothesize Lunesta is less likely to cause hallucinations compared to Ambien. I forget where Sonata lies within this comparison.

For the record, if I was in benzo WD my health's at risk, seizures aren't fun. If all I had was alcohol, I would drink either light beer or diet cola no caffeine w/ rum, just 1 serving per hour slowly sipping as much as you can. Then you kill the drink at 1hr. Consistency is key. Then to sleep I would probably do 2-5 drinks and try to get some sleep. Just don't run out of booze, and your body will only be able to handle this for 3. maybe 4 days max.

>ambien vs booze

definitvely take Ambien. OP it's perfectly legitimately to hop off benzos and use z drugs to sleep temporarily. It's more drastic than a taper.

The key is staying within medical dosing rang or forget it. Even with my tolerance, I usually never take more than 2-3 of the highest dose of each z drug. It's either not strong enough, worse delusions of sobriety than benzos, or too strong, possible tripping (I haven't tried it in high enough doses yet. I want to try weed+Ambien+say 200-300mg dxm hbr if it's safe to trip). It's too inconsistent person to person. I see one person take 10 ambien and drink an entire pint of spirits, and another guy take 1mg of pharma xanax with 2 ambien and he sleep walks into the car and sleep drives it into the garage door at 3mph.


Clonazolam by Ebenezer Fovingpack - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 17:04:19 EST ID:MPRjicNh No.137112 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How bad would it be to take 50mg clonazolam in about 24 hours? I think I'm about there. Fuvk me.
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Dr. M !gWLn19/oKs - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 17:21:42 EST ID:Q+MC/w37 No.137114 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137112

brain damage and seizure when tapering
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Ebenezer Fovingpack - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 17:51:20 EST ID:MPRjicNh No.137119 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137114
There's a part of me that wants to die "accidentally".. : /
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Ebenezer Fovingpack - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 17:52:24 EST ID:MPRjicNh No.137120 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137114
>>137114
There's a part of me that wants to die "accidentally".. : /
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 17:58:20 EST ID:8+FfCjhh No.137121 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137119
Well it to be fair it is significantly more likely you'll suffer long term physiological damage than actually dying.

The part of you that wants to die "accidently" either didn't play a part in this or didn't think this through.
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Slippery Pete - Sat, 16 Sep 2017 23:11:34 EST ID:2EnpPJdv No.137174 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137112

I really don't wanna scare you, but if you're going to try and taper (I suggest using Diclazepam, although I have no idea how high of a dose you'll need to help you taper off of a fucking monster dose like 50mg of Clam) but it's gonna be a long, excruciating and dangerous process.

When I was heavily taking clam, I was at roughly 2.8 mg per day.. and the withdrawals were pretty uncomfortable. I was lucky enough to have a calm taper with Diclazepam though.

You should go to a hospital, tell them what's going on and prepare for the worst. Seriously, you could die withdrawaling from that high of a dose. Please be careful.


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