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Clonazolam by Ebenezer Fovingpack - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 17:04:19 EST ID:MPRjicNh No.137112 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How bad would it be to take 50mg clonazolam in about 24 hours? I think I'm about there. Fuvk me.
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Dr. M !gWLn19/oKs - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 17:21:42 EST ID:Q+MC/w37 No.137114 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137112

brain damage and seizure when tapering
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Ebenezer Fovingpack - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 17:51:20 EST ID:MPRjicNh No.137119 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137114
There's a part of me that wants to die "accidentally".. : /
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Ebenezer Fovingpack - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 17:52:24 EST ID:MPRjicNh No.137120 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137114
>>137114
There's a part of me that wants to die "accidentally".. : /
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 17:58:20 EST ID:8+FfCjhh No.137121 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137119
Well it to be fair it is significantly more likely you'll suffer long term physiological damage than actually dying.

The part of you that wants to die "accidently" either didn't play a part in this or didn't think this through.
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Slippery Pete - Sat, 16 Sep 2017 23:11:34 EST ID:2EnpPJdv No.137174 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137112

I really don't wanna scare you, but if you're going to try and taper (I suggest using Diclazepam, although I have no idea how high of a dose you'll need to help you taper off of a fucking monster dose like 50mg of Clam) but it's gonna be a long, excruciating and dangerous process.

When I was heavily taking clam, I was at roughly 2.8 mg per day.. and the withdrawals were pretty uncomfortable. I was lucky enough to have a calm taper with Diclazepam though.

You should go to a hospital, tell them what's going on and prepare for the worst. Seriously, you could die withdrawaling from that high of a dose. Please be careful.


yfw the /benz/ hits by Augustus Fennerbanks - Sat, 16 Sep 2017 19:38:56 EST ID:x1E9MLIx No.137167 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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tfw that first benzo molecule gently caresses your GABA-a receptor's BZ sites


Benzo Sadness by Jenny Feffingstare - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 20:10:58 EST ID:yOYIzjSR No.136999 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Does anyone else feel depressed and semi mad when they take benzos? I took about 5mg of klonopin and although i felt great in the beginning I feel sad now. I dont think its withdrawal because this is the first time I've dosed in months.
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Sophie Smallforth - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 16:51:38 EST ID:LBVUet1q No.137022 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137018
Yeah a re-upload. I was really sad seeing it vanish from my favs.
Now I need the Need for Speed vid back!!
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Cyril Hongerman - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 11:47:43 EST ID:B1GWxIEF No.137046 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137018
nice
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Walter Panderbetch - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 01:48:18 EST ID:K4DwwT9K No.137068 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>136999
Depression and low mood is a possible side effect of benzos for some people.
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Dr. Katz - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 01:54:16 EST ID:LNlHBoqv No.137070 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>136999
I've been on benzos for just over 5 years and I have definitely felt SOME depressive symptoms, but never anything crazy.
The worst side-effects that I have ever had were from Ativan (lorazepam). The agoraphobia, nausea, and depressed mood were unlike diazepam, clonazepam, and alprazolam issues that I have ever had before.

The best way to curb the depression is to maybe take a lower dosage and find an outlet. When I was in high school and not into any kinds of pills (except RX'd opiates when I had a skateboarding injury) I noticed that a lot of people with underlying and untreated disorders became depressed, violent, suicidal, and just all around terrible to be around. I have only have benzo rage when I had first taken alprazolam, but that quickly subsided.
Find healthy outlets ---- exercise, eating healthy, cooking, hiking, socializing, hobbies, etc.
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Jack Songerwater - Sat, 16 Sep 2017 01:17:02 EST ID:B1GWxIEF No.137155 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137018
love it fam


Benzo porn thread?! by Zeak - Fri, 11 Aug 2017 17:20:39 EST ID:mLIV3eoW No.136575 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Anyways else up for looking at lots of beautiful benzos!!!
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Hannah Fapperchock - Fri, 25 Aug 2017 12:55:20 EST ID:wTIlziud No.136732 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Bud and Xanax
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Fucking Hezzleridge - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 23:16:17 EST ID:7IBggcNW No.137001 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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glorious 2mg klonpins
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 19:25:02 EST ID:8+FfCjhh No.137131 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>136575
Honestly, my clonazepam stash is just a fucking pile at this point.
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 21:24:17 EST ID:Q+MC/w37 No.137133 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137131
Don't you ever stop growing that pile either.
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Fri, 15 Sep 2017 23:59:04 EST ID:8+FfCjhh No.137152 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137149
That's not even the full thing lol,
That's like half the bottle of peach 0.5mgs, roughly 500mg altogether if my math is on.

Then there's the white 2mgs, I know one bottle could hold 300mg and I have about 1 and a half so conservative estimate is about 1gram total.


benzodiazepine withdrawal by Cedric Hirryfield - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 00:42:20 EST ID:rf6gn85y No.136982 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How long does it take for benzodiazepine withdrawal to begin? I know etizolam is a newer benzo type drug so this is a general question for any benzo. I have been using etizolam 2mg once a day in 15 day runs. 15 days on, 15 days off. I have done this 3 times. After 3 times I might be feeling withdrawal but can't be certain because of overlapping things happening in my life right now. Thanks.
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Dr. M !gWLn19/oKs - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 15:14:00 EST ID:Q+MC/w37 No.136992 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>136990
Yeah I sure do. It's called the

>Natural Law acknowledged by the U.S. Constitution
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Ian Dummershaw - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 18:35:59 EST ID:noWDwD+v No.136998 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>136982
Depends on half life and how quickly your body metabolizes it. I was on Ativan with a short half life and hit full withdrawal on day 6. People on valium or klonipin can take 2-3 weeks! Read this.... http://www.benzobuddies.org/forum/index.php
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Dr. M !gWLn19/oKs - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 20:02:36 EST ID:Q+MC/w37 No.137009 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>136982
For some reason, benzo WD hasn't ever hit me like opi WD.

I've been fucking with etiz only again, probably 1-3mg per day average with off days.

I thought I was sick from something else, then realized I hadn't had any Benzos in 3.5 days.

It was mostly pseudo nausea and anxiety (I had lots of thebaine unfortunately, and it made it all worse.

Just remember that while etiz is more forgiving in dependency building, an etiz addiction feels like a fent addiction because it's so short acting. At my worst I was popping a 1.2mg pill every 2 hours or so.

Consider tapering with a longer lasting benzo.
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Brainbastus Werrywag - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 01:08:43 EST ID:ubdIQtw4 No.137065 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>136982
Is that triazolam, OP?

If so, uuuuugughhhghguuuggghhhhhh muh limp dick.
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 19:02:24 EST ID:8+FfCjhh No.137130 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>136982
>I have been using etizolam 2mg once a day in 15 day runs.

I really try to be as informational as possible from a harm prevention view point but damn man, did you even read up on this drug before taking it?

Hypothetically (it will obviously differ between individuals/the duration of time/ drug taken), you are well past the time line of expected wds, whether minor (I'd assume that's more likely but not a doc), or minor.

Benzo wd is highly dependant on halflife and metabolism, should be relatively short for etiz. 1~3 days.


I'm not going to lecture or tell you what to do, but man that dosage (although yeah I know it's not crazy by any means) is a real dosage that tends to be monitored by a Psych with the expectation of a taper. 45 days of taking (despite being non-consecutive) isn't something to play around with.

Plus etizolam is neither new nor a benzodiazepine.

>>136992
This, and nice to see you Mario


methods of benzo withdrawal by Wesley Carringbock - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 00:54:24 EST ID:rf6gn85y No.137015 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What are your methods of withdrawing from benzos? I have found opiates to work and also to tapper off with a longer acting benzo, but what are your other secrets?
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Bombastus Werrywag - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 01:29:01 EST ID:pms+D2hz No.137016 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There's only one method to withdrawal from benzos.

Stop taking benzos.
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 19:37:56 EST ID:8+FfCjhh No.137028 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137015
Gradually reducing my dosage based upon my comfort and avoiding kindling.
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Dr. Katz - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 00:16:19 EST ID:LNlHBoqv No.137059 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137015
The best way to get off of a benzodiazepine is to taper with a long-lasting benzo (i.e. diazepam). The Ashton Manual indicates conversions between benzos. Really, the ideal way to taper for a long-term user is to slowly get off of your benzo by replacing it with diazepam --- this means NOT just switching to an equivalent dosage of diazepam day one. You will want to be stabilized on a long-lasting benzo and then taper down completely. Tapering can be very tricky for some people and it is quite common to get "stuck" at a dosage level. You might think jumping down 10mg diazepam at a time is a cake walk, but you may hit a point that your body does not tolerate further drops. It's all a process.
Understand that relapse is in the cycle of addiction. Relapse is common.

As >>137028 said, reduce your dosage based on comfort.
You do not need a long-lasting benzo, but it is a better idea. You can do a 10% dose reduction per week and finish tapering in 10 weeks. That's a relatively fast taper compared to ones that last 6 months to 2+ years.
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 18:43:02 EST ID:8+FfCjhh No.137128 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137059
Truth, Katz is right that it is generally common medical practice to use a long acting benzodiazepine for wd. As described to me once "It allows my patients to better manage the time between dosages while withdrawing and the decreases, but getting them off the last amount is a bitch"
Personally, I would agree with this statement based on my anecdotal experiences when I self tapered of clonazepam

Hypothetically, there are "short cuts/band aids" what have you but I mean at the end of the day you're either; taking a medication use for legitimate purposes (often relating to epilepsy), potentially trading one addiction for another, or running the risk of kindling (look that term up if it's unfamiliar). The long taper is a bit of a bitch but it's the tried and true.


benzo withdrawal by Charles Greengold - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 12:07:13 EST ID:rf6gn85y No.137098 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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If I am going through benzo withdrawal and i take a benzo does that restart the length like in opiate withdrawal or no?
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Brain - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 12:39:34 EST ID:IT5Qn6Js No.137099 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137098
Maybe not a full restart but it does set you back. Correct me if I'm wrong Katz/Mario/wang
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Dr. Katz - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 13:10:42 EST ID:LNlHBoqv No.137101 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Do NOT drink alcohol during the withdrawal process. I have known many people to do so thinking it makes things better but it truly does not.

Also, familiarize yourself with the Kindling Effect.

>>137099
Yessir. It's a set back.
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Emma Nanderbene - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 13:54:00 EST ID:UhFBj5nv No.137104 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137098
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Dextrolord - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 13:58:06 EST ID:UhFBj5nv No.137105 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>137098
I am getting to the end of benzie wd's myself and I would strongly suggest tapering for a week or two if you've been using for over a year and heavily like myself

I tapered for a week successfully to avoid panic attacks and lessen chances of seizures.

Kinda off topic for the thread but important info regardless


Won't try getting high again by Hedda Winkinchedge - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 08:19:22 EST ID:2XQbAiWj No.137092 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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76mg Xanax in a 4 hours span and I barely even felt it. I looked tired but remained completely coherent and 'normal' plus it still took time for me to fall asleep.

I've been taking this shit for 10 years now. My tolerance is off the hook. There's no point anymore when I use more than an entire 60x1mg box at once and not feel shit. So fuck that.

Now's the fun part, getting off with the tolerance that I have. But all in due time.


Lorazepam by Nathaniel Hoshstut - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 02:48:32 EST ID:1DaAVUAx No.137072 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Got a pack of 1mg lorazepam. Is it any good recreationally? How many would I need to take?
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Bombastus Werrywag - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 02:59:57 EST ID:ubdIQtw4 No.137073 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137072
two and then snort a line of coke


dodged a bullet? by Frederick Cebbercocke - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 02:59:32 EST ID:m8RBtQUS No.137041 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>7 months ago
>start using etiz daily
>up to 10-15 mg a day by a month or so
>start taking diclazepam every 2 days for w/d maintenance
>stop taking etiz by month 4
>up to 15-20 mg diclaz every 36-48 hours
>start trying to taper by month 5
>down to 5-7 mg every day and a half or so 3 weeks ago
>6 days ago, accidentally lose stash of 150 mg diclaz pg
>panic, totally broke, can't re up
>but after a week of no benzo use at all, no w/d, no rebound anxiety or insomnia
>feel completely normal
What happened? Did I just get lucky? Or am I in for an awful surprise of withdrawal hell to come? How do you go from a 7 month benzo binge to feeling great?
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Edward Murdham - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 10:21:41 EST ID:A7h559bI No.137045 Ignore Report Quick Reply
maybe you dodged a bullet and maybe you did not. granted, a week is a long time, but i still wouldnt risk it and get some emergency benzos if i were you. after all, the withdrawals can be lethal in extreme cases


Beer+Diazepam by John Clemblebanks - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 19:05:36 EST ID:8K6vS/Zw No.137026 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hai /benz/, I took 5mg diazepam and opened a beer. I remembered about mixing alcohol and benzos so I decided to vomit the diazepam; this happened about 2-3 minutes after ingestion of the pill and a sip of beer. The pill came out whole but was beginning to "melt".

Am I cleared to keep drinking my beer? Or should I play it safe and ditch it? I don't want the beer to go to waste!
Also, I smoked a bit of pot before all that.

Thanks guys.
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Frederick Brurrymune - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 19:42:48 EST ID:AM2IXNTC No.137029 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'll answer in exchange of answering my questions
https://boards.420chan.org/other/res/127759.php#i130002
https://boards.420chan.org/mdma/res/225724.php
I normally only check out /benz/ and /opi/ so didn't realize how ungodly slow all the other boards are.
>The pill came out whole but was beginning to "melt".
Save it, also lol wtf 5mg?

>Am I cleared to keep drinking my beer?
Yes aside from the fact it was such a low dose of benzo (speaking of which what were you doing with one anyway is it Rx to you? In which case you should be aware that it builds up in your system so you probably shouldn't drink period if you're normally on it daily, and don't stop taking it to drink) you won't have much absorbed anyway.

Aspirating vomit is the thing you probably know about and that is mainly why people tell you it is dangerous to mix (it is dangerous to get black out drunk period and I habitually sleep on my side if I did anything for that reason) but it isn't choking on vomit while you sleep that's the real worry. The real worry is and this is a classic this board is asked nonstop, that you drink more than a few beers, and/or take more pills, and act like raving lunatic until the cops come. Odds of you blacking out are high. Odds of being an ass guaranteed.
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 19:49:10 EST ID:8+FfCjhh No.137031 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Erm from what I can decipher in your post, I'd guess that you should be ok within moderation. Benzodiazepines + alcohol is a highly potent and synergistic combination, but I don't think you needed to force yourself to puke 5mg of diazepam.
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John Clemblebanks - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 19:57:20 EST ID:8K6vS/Zw No.137032 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>137029

I'm afraid I can't answer your questions... But nah, I take diazepam like, once or twice a month; I enjoy low dosages of whatever I take, usually.
Thanks for your response, man.

>>137031
I guess I want to be as safe as can be, heh.

Thanks, people. It's been a while since I last came here, feels like home.


Why are benzos addictive by Eugene Cragglebit - Mon, 14 Aug 2017 06:42:30 EST ID:yB4MZ+Ft No.136612 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Can someone tell me why benzos are addictive?

I have severe anxiety and am trying antidepressants, 5 already and am in the process of getting benzodiazepines for immediate relief while the antidepressants take their 4 weeks to work.

So I haven't tried benzos yet

If they are supposed to have anxiety-relieving properties like antidepressants why are they addictive when the antidepressants aren't? I don't understand. Are they just more powerful? Is it because benzos have euphoria and other properties? Please explain to me, thanks.
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High Strung - Tue, 05 Sep 2017 19:46:21 EST ID:c3BRZaHC No.136900 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I'm addicted to them because they help me drown out the screams of the demons in my head. Memories of my abusive childhood, of my abusive exes..... I can't sleep without them because I have nightmares when I don't have them. I get the urge to start cutting myself again when I don't have them.

My mind is a torrential monsoon of anguish and only benzos keep me afloat and functioning.
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Reuben Dessledale - Tue, 05 Sep 2017 22:28:35 EST ID:K4DwwT9K No.136903 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>136897
Posting as plain M is going to confuse a bunch of older users. We used to have a tripfag by the name of M, and he was seriously fucked in the head. Just saying.
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Angus Gollernare - Tue, 05 Sep 2017 23:37:00 EST ID:F6Sndtt4 No.136906 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>136900 love you and your pic I feel you
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High Strung - Wed, 06 Sep 2017 19:15:34 EST ID:c3BRZaHC No.136922 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>136906
Yeah being Bipolar type II + PTSD = utterly sucky.

It's why composers like Beethoven and Schumann speak to me so much, as do painters like Munch and Van Gogh. And only benzodiazepines keep the tears away....
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Dr. M !gWLn19/oKs - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 15:19:14 EST ID:Q+MC/w37 No.136993 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>136903

thx gud 2 know


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