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xanax Question by balls - Mon, 28 May 2018 13:54:13 EST ID:s7N7+F7S No.141570 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Good day. I wish to enquire about the recreational value of alprazolam. I took about .20ish* at 2pm then drank a tallboy of 5% ABV beer at aprox 11:25PM then took another .25ish *(the pill was poorly broken) at maybe 1:00AM. It's now aprox 3:30AM.

While I certainly feel fucked up I just kind of feel like I drank a little bit too much (Nausea, mild dizziness, so so motor control) but clearer (which makes sense) and without the warmth I've gotten from clonazepam. I guess I'm wondering why xanax is so popular. Is mixing Xanax with alcohol just shit? Does Xanax just not mesh with me? Are there any compounds that are good to mix with it?

It certainly seems useful as intended for anxiety control but recreationally it seems fairly disappointing, which is good I suppose, but I don't get why it's so commonly abused, like the how the fuck did lil Xan get so fucked up just taking xanax? I don't get it, pic related because you're all schmucks and just got prahnked by too much tuna fish.
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Oliver Fombleman - Tue, 29 May 2018 10:51:17 EST ID:hOmWV+4Y No.141590 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>141589
Same with me guys. when I saw that picture, i fucking died. I hadn't seen it in years and just had find the text to go along. Figured i'd be flamed aha
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balls - Tue, 29 May 2018 13:37:54 EST ID:s7N7+F7S No.141591 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>141590
Man, I remember being a like 21 year old skinny fat to fat almost kissless virgin autist spending 80% of my spare time on wow. Started reading /fit/ for TMA shitposting but eventually got the picture. Now I''m 27 and have managed to to stop being a bitch, get some pussy and then move in with a girl who's fucking awesome. I guess the downside of that is that I'm now a poly drug addict with a prediction for opiates.

That copy pasta is some fucking nostalgic fire though manana.

Pic potentally related. I love that this thread has nothing to do with what I initially intended but am enjoying it more than I tihnk if people seriously responded.

Currently on like 3.35mg of xanax, gonna punch a cone. then eat pasta. Does shit like this belong on the BWB?
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Lillian Somblekadge - Tue, 29 May 2018 15:25:38 EST ID:iB86UV3/ No.141593 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>141591

WOW was one hell of a game though. I also used to play when I should have been out making friends and banging girls.
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balls - Tue, 29 May 2018 17:53:11 EST ID:s7N7+F7S No.141597 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>141593
Yeah dude, no ragrets, still talk to some of the dudes I used to raid with and I honestly think the qualities you develop raiding can translate into real life. Still play on occasion tbh.
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Nicholas Siggledodge - Wed, 30 May 2018 04:44:26 EST ID:iB86UV3/ No.141606 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>141597
Yeh those team skills have stuck with me, playing with people for hours to weeks really teaches you about teamwork and collective effort.
I loaded it up a few weeks back and it was not the same. It was cool to see all my mounts and rare items again. I was balling out in that game, I had that .01 world drop item that makes you look like a member of the opposite faction. Used to stroll through stormwind as an undead and feel like a celeb.

Good times, life is better now though, like you I started working out and fixed a few things in my life, but I still look back with a smile.


ZOPICLONE ROA by Zopiclone - Tue, 29 May 2018 15:51:25 EST ID:QyZFyFkR No.141595 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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HI I KNOW this is not really benzo relatet but i need a better route of administration for my imovane zimovane ( ZOPICLONE) whats the best bioavalability with it and can i shoot it IV if i mic it with citric acid or something else?
Pic for attention the love of our lifes FLUNITRAZEPAM witch is real easy to get in my country along with halcion and mogadon (NITRAZEPAM) and really anything currently shooting morphine sulpheate 100 mg pills and ritalin uno 40 mg that we get from our doc but ofcourse if you want a rush from ritalin u need 80 to 120 mg
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Nell Mogglegold - Tue, 29 May 2018 22:19:05 EST ID:m1o6EgM8 No.141599 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Damn son, sounds like you're gonna try it anyway. Good luck with your Eastern Bloc drogas.


why is benz the shit tier class of drugs that it is by William Gimmersit - Sat, 26 May 2018 22:30:08 EST ID:xQVrl9Bw No.141541 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm on 2.5mg clonazepam and still feel 98% sober. i am not a regular user of klonopin
why is benz such a useless unabusable class of drugs

i'd seriously be more satisfied having just a single 12oz regular beer
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Sophia !0R/XnN1IK. - Sat, 26 May 2018 23:39:23 EST ID:as5ueRdu No.141544 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That's because YOU DON'T HAVE ANXIETY SWEATY.
I'm all seriousness. When I was 19 and carefree, no major anxiety or depression, a guy I was dating popped 4 klonopins into my beer and said "enjoy!"
I was down to do just about any drug, so I said sure, and drank a 6 pack with 2mg Klonopin. Didn't feel anything other than drunk.
I ended up buying some from this guys friend and took 6 the next time, sober. It did absolutely nothing for me.
I feel you already have to have an anxiety disorder to feel the effects of benzos and to enjoy the pure bliss that comes when all your cares you have melt away. THAT is the high.
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Samuel Pusslewudge - Sat, 26 May 2018 23:54:54 EST ID:LITETc4h No.141545 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've had long term anxiety that therapists treated with SSRIs as a child. around 20 or so i kicked it cold turkey and started to just deal with it (to varying levels of success)

I was recently given clonazepam for an anxiety-endued sleep disorder, and it helps with panic attacks i get before bed when i worry about falling asleep. This is all it really helps with, I try taking it to get high sometimes (even mixed with weed or booze) and it does nothing.

I have no idea how this can be taken recreationally.
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Eugene Heblingwit - Sun, 27 May 2018 17:16:53 EST ID:c/UafPZm No.141554 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>141544

> I feel you already have to have an anxiety disorder to feel the effects of benzos and to enjoy the pure bliss that comes when all your cares you have melt away. THAT is the high

This. Tread lightly because you may feel normal but that isn’t always the case
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Barnaby Blytheshit - Mon, 28 May 2018 05:15:55 EST ID:Fug2rcKt No.141565 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Anxiety and panic attacks from Lyrics PAWS
>Take 2.5mg Valium
>Does almost nothing, wake up with a fully rendered metalcore song in my head my brain created somehow
>Endodontist (root canal dentist) offers me 5mg Valium, I take it, barely does anything, maybe a slight 'trip' while I'm getting my tooth saw'd
>Finally kiss a girl for once... THEN I WAKE UP it was all a dream
>My sleep paralysis nightmares have become 10x more vivid
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Angus Wubbleman - Mon, 28 May 2018 05:20:27 EST ID:iB86UV3/ No.141566 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>141565

That happened to me a few times on diazepam. I would wake up ina dream or just be half awake on my face and unable to snap out of it to move and get air. Always made me paranoid to sleep on my front after that. I don't mind if I die but to suffocate while half aware but kind of paralyzed sucks.


well, i think i fucked my shit up by Jenny Drocklehadging - Thu, 03 May 2018 02:08:16 EST ID:dZSRGYoq No.141134 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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i posted on another thread about my predicament with phenibut and xanax, since i want to reduce my use of both. for the last few weeks to a month, i've been sort of rotating between xanax, f-phenibut and alcohol. i had the idea that if i did this, i would avoid the negative effects to being addicted to any one thing. turns out that idea was totally fuckin' dumb.

here's an idea of what i had been taking in a week:
xanax- 2-4mg, 2-3 times a week
alcohol- 2-5 standard drinks in a night, 2 nights a week
f-phenibut- up to 800mg in a night, 2 nights a week
i don't combine any of these in one night.

this seemed ok for a bit, and the f-phenibut make me feel like I could quit drinking. last week i had like 7 drinks at a concert; after that, i decided to cut down on the alcohol. since then, i've experiencing either rebound anxiety or possibly mild withdrawals. since i've only been doing this about a month, i wasn't expecting a lot of difficulty.
however i've been having lots of muscle tension and twitching, restlessness, and insomnia these last few days. it feels like when i have a bad anxiety day, only with more twitching/tension, which usually only happens when i have panic attacks. the muscle stuff makes me feel even more anxious, because i start worrying if it's a seizure. i don't think i've actually had one though, but the thought of it scares me. the icing on the shit cake is that i just learned my bupropion can lower seizure threshold, which is concerning.
today has been the worst of it so far, but near the end of today, my muscles started to relax a bit and i started to feel almost normal again.

so, since i've fucked around with all these different things, a taper seems like a good idea. however the fact that it's three different drugs makes me confused about how to go about this. the last couple days, i've been taking them with the same frequency, but at lower dosages. this week it's been: 380mg f-phenibut on monday, two beers on tuesday, and 1.5mg xanax instead of 2mg tonight. i think once i'm good at lower dosages, then i'll work on reducing the frequency.

advice? if this doesn't seem to work, i'm also considering g…
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Caroline Crummerfore - Thu, 03 May 2018 12:57:39 EST ID:fVTYZ+wz No.141145 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>141134
maybe try taking no phen or xan but take kratom
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Martin Suvingspear - Fri, 18 May 2018 03:03:51 EST ID:3hq1tz4u No.141411 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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op here. i decided to slowly taper and cut out alcohol. i've noticed something unusual about my rebound symptoms: they seem to get more intense during the weekend, and diminish a fair amount near the start of the week.

so far this week the physical symptoms are milder, and i'm mostly just in a panicky/irritable state. it obviously still sucks, but i am starting to feel better.

cutting out alcohol has really helped. my guess is because alcohol has a much shorter duration, so unless you're drinking a number of drinks over an evening, withdrawal can happen faster.

i'm now down to 300mg f-phenibut, though still taking the same amount of xanax. i'm thinking of starting to reduce frequency once i'm more-or-less okay at 200mg.
i like to imagine weed helps, too, but i was probably just going to do that anyway.
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Fri, 18 May 2018 12:01:57 EST ID:2w06hy7A No.141417 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>141411
Good to hear it, OP

Keep us updated, this boards slow anyways.

Pleased to hear it hasn't been too rough, mate

(Dope doesnt help, it could be negative, but i used it during my tapers too)
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Cletus The Slack-Jawed Yokel - Fri, 18 May 2018 18:49:59 EST ID:Ryf16Xqm No.141423 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Honestly OP, those numbers seem low compared to my own experiences. I'm tempted to say that you're much more mentally addicted than physically at that usage level. For example, I've been drinking about 12 beers a day, every day, for a year. 1-2 grams of phenibut every other day for about 6 months, and most recently to cut back my drinking 2.5-5mgs etizolam 3-4 times a week.

I'm addicted to alcohol in a big way. If I don't drink for 2 days I can't even drink water without it splashing all over my face thanks to the shakes. Etiz is something I can walk away from for weeks at a time no problem and the same with phenibut. I've successfully been able to run out of each and wait a month in between new orders with no physical WDs.

Anyway, wish you the best man. I'm a big fan of my GABA receptors as well.
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Fanny Bardhall - Mon, 28 May 2018 04:38:39 EST ID:eoZl+NWh No.141564 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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my f-pheni taper had been going very well, down to 200mg, however i had been taking about the same amount of xanax this whole time. my symptoms had improved slightly as well. stupidly, i took more than usual last week: 4mg on two days out of that week, which now feels more like how 2mg felt a few months ago.

since then, i've had the worst symptoms since this stuff first started. it only stopped after I took ~1.25mg xanax earlier this morning. this frightens me. i really want to quit now, and i've decided to be more strict about tapering both the things. since last week i took 8mg total, I think this week I'll try to go down to 6mg in a week, no more than 2mg on any single day.

last night, i started feeling like i was going to faint to seize out. i don't know if it really happened, but the panic, racing heart, tremors, twitching, tension, dizziness, dissociated feeling, and bizarre physical sensations were so rough, so unbelievable, that it felt like anything terrible could happen.

the worst part is that i'm running low on f-phenibut, and may be out for a few days until i have more. i'm scared of having another flare-up of my entire nervous system shttting itself because it can't GABA or whatever.

i am starting to hate xanax. i hate having to take downers just to keep myself sort-of functional and not in pain from tensing my muscles so much. this suuuuucks
>>141423
if this is just psychological addiction, i never want to go near physical addiction. and thanks mate. lol, not sure if this is the best way to show our appreciation for our GABA bois....


does xanax or klonopin have a different feeling than phenibut? by Jarvis Geckleforth - Mon, 28 May 2018 01:56:14 EST ID:E53eHGtj No.141561 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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i take around 1.5 grams of phenibut around 3- 4 times a week and it generally lifts my mood for most of the day with about 4-5 hours of anti anxiety effects but i want to try and just get a script for klonopin or xanax. is it better than phenibut? do they last longer? better high? do intrusive thoughts go away?
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Cyril Blatherbury - Mon, 28 May 2018 02:43:03 EST ID:EugO19ID No.141562 Ignore Report Quick Reply
They're pretty different my man. Phenibut is a mood lifter where benzos are more mood neutralizers. They're great for getting you back to baseline when you're just racing a mile a minute having a panic attack.

I honestly think large doses of phenibut can be more recreational than xanax thanks to the whole not blacking out as easy part.


Script for diazepam by guarďian_angel !LhwrleQFRU!!fAsQkk7h - Wed, 23 May 2018 10:41:47 EST ID:hq70LLnh No.141493 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Okay. So I'm so fucking tired of being a welfare parasite scummy heroin addict so I stopped with the dope. Did a hard taper on suboxone over a week and everything went fine. But now.. what the fuck do I do now?
It's literally impossible for me to get work anywhere I've searched several hundred jobs and usually they don't even call back. I don't look at all like an addict and you can see I care about my appearance and how I present myself. I'm well liked and people usually think I'm charming and a nice person. So its not like I've been sitting there nodding off in the interviews or something.
I really just want to like strap a bomb around my waist. Go to the job centre and force them to give me a job or I'll blow up the place. Seriously my bar on what I want in life is so fucking low. I just want a regular job, an income and some weed to smoke but nah.
Anyway my Benz related question is that now that I'm off the dope for the first time in 1,5 year I have so much fucking anxiety I can barely function anymore. Much less on job interviews. And it only gets worse as the time goes on. I feel like a have no purpose at all and I'm close to just end it all. I have everything else. I have a gf I love and that loves me very much, I have non junkie friends that are successful and a family that loves me also.

Oh yeah the question I was prescribed diazepam, alprazolam and ativan some years ago for my GAD and panic disorder. Benz is not at all addictive for me and I've eaten high doses for months and could just stop cold turkey and not even look back.
But now I could really be of use of a diazepam script again so I can function and raise my chances to get a job by not being a fucking nervous wreck every time I talk to someone I don't know.
Problem is since then my journals have been filled with my addiction problems so they just always say no when I try to explain that I really need the script back and that I really have never had a problem with Benz abuse.

What can I say to my doc? It feels like my only chance. I can even agree to piss tests. I just need that script until I've landed a job.

Anyhow benz on my bros wrote this from a piece of shit phone…
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David Sudgelodge - Wed, 23 May 2018 16:44:33 EST ID:fOo/vSTL No.141504 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>141493
>Go to the job centre and force them to give me a job or I'll blow up the place.
>don't know why i can't get a job

Might not look like an addict, but you sure talk like a weirdo.

Look, you're in a rough spot. Anxiety is tough, and the H cravings might come and go. Transitioning back to society as a functional human being is going to take some time. You've obviously got bigger issues than landing a job - Get your anxiety under control. Shit doesn't happen overnight either, it can take over a year. And it'll be a bumpy road. Talk to your doctor about this. Just be honest and say you've decided to make a change - You quit doing heroin, you want to get your life back on track, get a job and make your girlfriend and family proud. Tell them that the anxiety is a huge roadblock.

You aren't getting benzos. Sorry man. Docs know that shit doesn't end well, and it doesn't fix the root of the problem. If you're serious about getting better, get referred to a psychiatrist. There are other treatment options that work. You might be in the lucky category where some SSRI's and a month or two of therapy will set you right on course.

Stay strong. It will be challenging, but there's nothing better than being back in control of your life and your happiness without drugs.
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Nigel Sablingford - Sun, 27 May 2018 13:55:05 EST ID:XF1E6AKH No.141550 Ignore Report Quick Reply
no joke go to the **black or any other really** ministry
explain your situation honestly
tell them youre in a really hard spot etc etc
the black ministry ususally has the hookup on jobs they give probationers
they also have sweet trade union connects
go there say hey man i'm in a spot
they'll go brother you need a job is what you're saying
get a job with them, dry walling, hauling shit from point a to b, anything
let them know you're clean and want to stay clean and want to get a better job
by them I don't mean the black ministry I mean the trade union folk they'll apprentice you with
start making absurd paychecks at like 25 an our for holding a sign then work your way up to 70 an hour apprenticing and learning a trade
bar is set low youre a self admitted recovering h addict
but your coworkers will all be probationers and tradesmen who take pride in their work
trust me anon you'll be fine just take the initiative and reach out
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Sophie Clottingwill - Sun, 27 May 2018 14:36:15 EST ID:hOmWV+4Y No.141551 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>141550
Sounds like some solid advice but you should mention to OP that trades and especially non red seal are drug heavens. All these fuckers are functioning addicts weather it comes to plumbers/electricians/mechanics.

Unless OP actually gets his foot in the door of the union company those figures are inflated as fuck. Nobody’s paying an apprentice $25 and unless your an actual tradesmen and not some labourer or a non regulated tradesman you ain’t making anything near $70. The point too about tradesmen who take pride in their work is BS. It’s a 50/50 crap shoot and either guys love it or don’t give a fuck and just get the job done.
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Sophie Clottingwill - Sun, 27 May 2018 17:04:37 EST ID:hOmWV+4Y No.141552 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>141551
Was a 2nd term electrical apprentice 309a/ full time licensed mechanic 310s Also mingled In unregulated trades like garage doors and roofing. Sure good money but you destroy your body, constantly around chemicals, 55 hour weeks, and the weekend is just recovery to do it all again.

I know im bashing trades but shit if you need work someone will hire you as a general labourer and you can work your way up.
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Rebecca Pabberlure - Sun, 27 May 2018 18:49:08 EST ID:W8c01/jN No.141555 Ignore Report Quick Reply
In 2015 I went to detox for heroin addiction and during the detox they fed my Valium and norgesic while I did a rapid bupe taper. Anyway after I got out I went to my GP and told him that detox gave me Valium and how much it helped so he started giving me 50x5mg a month though at first it was on the condition that my mother handle the pills for me. So maybe if you get a family member to go in with you it will raise your chances of getting a script. I still get this scrips to this day and don;t need anyone with me when I see my GP anymore.


Paradoxical side effects by Dextrolord - Fri, 04 May 2018 07:34:23 EST ID:otLJhWlg No.141165 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I take my bars, and get bursts of energy and motivation?!

Does anyone have an answer to why this is?

Does anyone else have this happen to them???
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Clara Blibbernan - Thu, 24 May 2018 11:21:19 EST ID:GlRIZmyE No.141513 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>141511
Right, they needed substitute for cola and were cheap ass bastards
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Clara Blibbernan - Thu, 24 May 2018 11:21:18 EST ID:GlRIZmyE No.141514 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>141511
Right, they needed substitute for cola and were cheap ass bastards
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Angus Bungold - Thu, 24 May 2018 15:06:20 EST ID:tWvdSVIS No.141516 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>141495
This posts screams blackout on Clam. If the guy that posted it finds it here and gets a flashback of writing it I'd love to know if I'm right.
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Sidney Pockstone - Thu, 24 May 2018 15:58:39 EST ID:IbGW7lpt No.141517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>141516
i got banned from the whole site from a post i made during a clam episode once
fuck that potent bastard
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Basil Gammlelock - Thu, 24 May 2018 23:46:24 EST ID:ry6mhnmV No.141524 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Happens to me all the time.


120 mg xanax per month by Hamilton Pissleway - Tue, 22 May 2018 16:03:51 EST ID:gu3yd8sC No.141477 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Im 6ft 180 lbs and i get 120 pills per month and am supposed to take 4mg a day.

This seems like too much, but I'm not sure?
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David Sudgelodge - Wed, 23 May 2018 16:31:01 EST ID:fOo/vSTL No.141503 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>141477
tbh, take as *needed*. If 1mg provides relief from symptoms, why take 4? You won't get hurt from taking too little. You can get hurt from taking too much.

are you switching over from another medication, OP?
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Alice Drorrydedge - Wed, 23 May 2018 19:18:51 EST ID:gu3yd8sC No.141506 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>141503
I'm not supposed to take more than 1mg at one time, but I'm prescribed to take as many as 4 x 1mg per day. One dose is effective for maybe 4 hours at most.
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Cornelius Giffingdat - Thu, 24 May 2018 01:14:40 EST ID:/2QyQOU/ No.141507 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>141477
Jesus Christ lol I wish I had your psych.
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Cornelius Giffingdat - Thu, 24 May 2018 01:46:07 EST ID:/2QyQOU/ No.141508 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>141507
Gonna elaborate here:
I have PTSD and just want some on-rare-occasion-only benzos, but I can't get a dose that's effective. 2mg diazepam lol - and I don't even have any atm, not sure if I'll be offered more or anything.

I don't even know what to say to her to indicate like, I need some more emergency benzos. There is probably like 1-4 times per month where I am extra-extra-extra fucked in regards to anxiety, panic, hypervigilance, just, completely fucking like every-moment-is-fucking-terrifying sort of shit. Above the level of that I usually have to deal with.
Should I like, look for a psych in my area who prescribes benzos as their most common script, go to them, pretty much lay shit on the table that I want something to help with those extra-extra-extra bad days? Super infrequent use. Is my main psych gonna know, if I do that? Can't stop seeing her because she actually treats the PTSD really well.
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Clara Blibbernan - Thu, 24 May 2018 04:05:32 EST ID:GlRIZmyE No.141509 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>141506
Dude you end up eating whole 120 in two weeks with no memory


first time xannax by Caroline Bripperford - Wed, 23 May 2018 12:44:50 EST ID:7IBggcNW No.141498 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I take 3mg of klonopin daily along with some other meds including zoloft, zxprexa, and depakote. How many bars should I take to feel anything?
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Caroline Bripperford - Wed, 23 May 2018 13:09:30 EST ID:7IBggcNW No.141499 Ignore Report Quick Reply
update op here
I tried sublingualling a xannax and threw it up.
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Angus Corrytud - Wed, 23 May 2018 16:13:03 EST ID:iIUJ7geO No.141501 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>141499
fucking pussy.
Then just swallow it next time


Withdrawal from long half life benzos? by Doris Wopperwat - Tue, 22 May 2018 05:14:37 EST ID:70T5pqlP No.141468 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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When does it kick in? I know it's always case specific but let's say I've been using/abusing clonazolam, flubromazepam, and diclazepam pretty much daily for about a month
Before that I was using etiz a couple times a week for a few months which slowly lead up to daily use
I was taking diclaz every day, somewhere around 1-3mg a day for the past couple weeks on a roadtrip, since I got home I have just had less desire to do benzos. My last benzo was 3 days ago and maybe 4mg of flubromazepam
Haven't noticed any withdrawal at all, has it just not kicked in yet? Or was I not using long enough to become dependent? Thinking about just continuing not using benzos if I'm not gonna withdrawal, good time to pull out
But if withdrawal just hasn't kicked in yet what should I look for? I'd get the lighter symptoms first and not just plunge into a seizure right?
Other things to note is that I have been using other drugs too, mainly stims but also ketamine a couple days ago randomly. Could stims/ a k afterglow cover-up withdrawal anxiety? Seems like stims would make it worse

Sorry for the long post

Tldr: what is withdrawal like for benzos with wicked half lives?
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Martha Honeywell - Tue, 22 May 2018 15:33:26 EST ID:IbGW7lpt No.141476 Ignore Report Quick Reply
it'll be slower but last much longer. after a month of abuse like that you really oughtta not cold turkey.


Seizures by Hannah Tillingshaw - Mon, 14 May 2018 00:30:57 EST ID:tWvdSVIS No.141360 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey everyone. I take etizolam about once a week in the 1-2 mg range. I recently fell out with a very long grand mal seizure. I came to being walked into the ambulance with no recollection of what happened.

I'm terrified of having another as that will have me diagnosed with epilepsy and as such, I'll lose my license. Is there any way that my alcoholism and infrequent benzo use could have contributed to this? I had about 2 beers in me and a joint and fell out around 3 PM. According to people around me and the EMTs I had around a 7 minute seizure. From everything I've read that's an insane amount of time to be seizing. I had etizolam to fall asleep 2 days earlier because of amphetamine use, but they found no benzos in the urinalysis while they did find amphetamine.

I don't really know what to ask other than do you think the benzo use or alcoholism triggered the grand mal?

My body is still reeling from it and I'm hoping it never happens again.
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David Pazzleville - Mon, 14 May 2018 02:17:30 EST ID:va7QIjjW No.141363 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Once a week isn't a lot. You must be drinking quite a bit.

I had an unexpected seizure (no withdrawl symptoms) after binging on alcohol and etizolam.
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Frederick Benderwell - Mon, 14 May 2018 17:32:52 EST ID:c6w6Gdmv No.141373 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>141361
I've done some looking and haven't seen any confirmation that amp lowers seizure threshold. Where did you hear that?
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Sat, 19 May 2018 18:20:49 EST ID:BS7DRfjB No.141437 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>141373
It is rare and not exactly understood but the leading theory is that the increased catecholamine release, coupled with the poor habits from stim abuse (lack of slep, general physical stress) can cause seizures.

Ill see if i can find anything cited on it.
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Nicholas Smalldock - Sat, 19 May 2018 18:53:55 EST ID:lUbhRJq6 No.141438 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>141437
OP here, thanks TT. I'm curious too about the lack of etiz registering on the hospital urinalysis test too. In the OP I said 2 days but talking to friends and it seems like I had taken it both nights I was there with more than usual the second night. If I had taken it the night before falling out at noon, it should have registered as a benzo in my system right? From the little reading I've done there are conflicting reports as to thienos showing up as benzos or not on piss tests.
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Cornelius Worthingbanks - Sun, 20 May 2018 21:18:33 EST ID:ZuYpWzIX No.141452 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>141373
When I got proscribed amphetamine from a doctor the pharmacy wouldn't fill it until I had a meeting with my neurologist about its potential problems for my epilepsy


recovering from moderate benzo use by Hannah Sorrylidge - Fri, 18 May 2018 12:57:03 EST ID:ldSPR9ep No.141419 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I was using around 4-6mg alprazolam every day for a year before taking a heavy dose of 20mg and having a seizure a week later
I haven't felt the same since, it's like there's a part of my mind that's missing
I feel slow, robotic, and often time just not really 'there'
it's like I can't hear my thoughts, visualise concepts, or draw from imagination anymore
psychedelics have lost all their trippy and introspective qualities, stims just make my heart beat faster, I only feel the physical effects of alcohol, and ketamine has a sterile and empty feeling
I've been clean from benzos for around six months now and I still feel like this

have I done irreparable damage?
nothing I've read about benzos has said that long term use can cause neurological damage aside from increasing the risk of dementia/alzheimers
did I just not read widely enough?
I've had a CT scan and an MRI scan and both of which came back clear
how long are these symptoms going to last or are they here to stay?
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6 months clean? Gj - Fri, 18 May 2018 13:50:34 EST ID:g4buMSJy No.141420 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>141419
Exercise and practice your imagination. Read, play an instrument, listen to music. The alprazolam put your brain into a habit of feeling relaxed and anxiety-less, this obviously isnt normal as life is filled with the opposite. Fighting and being aware of those factors that cause anxiety, pondering, solving and fixing these problems, these rile my imagination as a musician and human. The fallacy of life is sad, beautiful and absurd.

You can get back to yourself.

Practice and exercise your brain, engage in social conversations, be witty and strive for having fun. Build and keep thriving relationships. Alprazolam was a problem for me as well. You've been outta the loop for a bit, but I'm glad you're back.
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Fri, 18 May 2018 18:30:57 EST ID:2w06hy7A No.141421 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>141419
>nothing I've read about benzos has said that long term use can cause neurological damage aside from increasing the risk of dementia/alzheimers
>did I just not read widely enough?
Yeah, you didn't read up on the whole gray matter loss, but theres more to it than just that(its only correlation not causation iirc). the real cognitive issues that are currently speculated on are more for long tern users and irrrelevant to you

>how long are these symptoms going to last or are they here to stay?
Hard to say as it varies so widely. Its unlikely this is permanent and not prolonged issues related to d/cing.

The seizure could fuck with you but sounds like you got medical attention in a reasonable time. (Atleast i hope so)

The advice I see given most frequently in this scenario is give it time, lead a healthy lifestyle etc.

Goodluck OP just remember this is very likely temporary and just prolonged. Some cases continue for years, but the odds of irreperable damage outside of the whole seizing thing. You got med attention immediately right?
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Doris Suddlefuck - Sat, 19 May 2018 02:34:23 EST ID:ldSPR9ep No.141429 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>141421
>You got med attention immediately right?
I went to hospital straight away and they gave me an immediate assessment but it took about 2/3 months to get the mri scan because of nhs waiting lists
I hope that's quick enough to detect any noticeable changes in the brain
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sat, 19 May 2018 12:24:21 EST ID:CyLvTdKk No.141430 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>141419
Prolonged benzodiazepine usage, which a year of 4-6mg alprazolam is rather large, can have noticeable effects both psychologically and physiologically. Even individuals that do taper off safely can feel mental “slowing,” so difficulty with concentration, memory formation, etc.

>Increasing risk of dementia
Eh, it’s only a correlation. The current reality is that half of elderly people develop dementia in some form. Dementia studies aren’t yet carried out specific to 18-35 year olds who’ve used benzos daily for an extended amount of time.
Brain plasticity is a beautiful thing. In time you will most likely be back to 100%, but that’s assuming you: stay drug and alcohol free, eat healthy, stay up on your vitamins, exercise, get plenty of rest, and everything that revolves around having a sound mind and body. Pick up a heathy hobby. Have regular social interactions. Possibly seek mental health counseling for underlying problems.


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