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etizolam similar benzos by Frederick Sigglewater - Tue, 25 Jul 2017 20:20:06 EST ID:PXe0erKh No.136378 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey , I'm getting etizolam for the first time this weekend and am wondering what other benzos(i know it's not a real benzo) does it have similar effect to? Thanks.
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Frederick Sigglewater - Tue, 25 Jul 2017 20:22:32 EST ID:PXe0erKh No.136379 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also, would you consider it better or worse than klonopin?
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StimLioness !JM2DTgXfqU - Wed, 26 Jul 2017 10:52:58 EST ID:ktnDDI/H No.136386 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Etiz is def not as good as klonopin, but I feel its as good as xanax at 1mg if you dose around 4mg of it.

I really would compare it to xanax.
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Dr. Katz - Wed, 26 Jul 2017 11:49:35 EST ID:sEszI2j9 No.136388 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>136378
The fast onset and short duration is akin to alprazolam.
Etizolam is around 1/2 has potent on many conversion charts, but it's a bit subjective. IMHO 1mg alprazolam feels more like 3mg etizolam. The drug also exhibits some reverse tolerance.
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Archie Chorryfog - Wed, 26 Jul 2017 23:07:51 EST ID:EwUic2eK No.136391 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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E-tizzz feels pretty similar to ZZZan-axe but it's a little weaker mg for mg, 1mg clocks in at around 1/2 a mg in my eccentric, WiLdEyEd koolaid experiences. It's a cute little drug; she doesn't know who she wants to be, she tries to impersonate her sibling but she's just so adorable in her slight failure that she adds some warmth and giggles when you get to babysit her/she babysits you.

Not sure about the reverse tolerance tang, it's a common rumor but as far as I know the more you take the more you need for the same effect, unless i'm just unlucky and it exhibits reverse tolerance for every1 else?! idk.....
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Sophia !0R/XnN1IK. - Wed, 26 Jul 2017 23:36:01 EST ID:MPRjicNh No.136393 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The withdrawals are real, my dude.
I feel like it's different than Klonopin (which I used to take regularly) because it's so much shorter-acting and I just want to keep redosing... Then before I knew it, I was taking 12-15mg a day. At work and stuff o_0.


Advice on what the fuck happened by Emma Pebblefoot - Sun, 23 Jul 2017 23:23:32 EST ID:yzGHy/zG No.136346 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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two months ago i had a 7 day vacations, and my friends came over since we live in different cites. Anyways for the entire 7 days we did coke(every day, some days from about 4-6pm to about 12-1am other days from 7pm-8 to 3am-4-5). They dont get comedowns at all or really mild ones, but i get really bad ones, so i had some zannies for every comedown. First day did 0.5 mg of coke and took 2mg alpra some time after the last bump to chill and then fall sleep. Last day im up to 1.4 grams and needed about 8-9 mgs to go to sleep, plus 0.5 mgs after the first 0.7 to lower my anxiety.
They leave on a friday and that same friday i stop doing everything, so:
Day 1 and 2: Was probably a still fucked up since ive got little memories of it, but i do remember not eating those days.
Day 3: this is where the fun starts. I woke up with severe anxiety, i felt really hot, my hearts feels like its racing even tho its not racing, and im really restless (i kept making a fist with my hands but tightenimg them really hard, all day, until my hands hurt) still have no apetite. I gotta go to work but i keep sweating, even if im on ac my hands and feet are cold but the rest of my body feels hot. Im barely able to have a conversation with someone else. I get off early, go home and proceed to have a shitty evening. The anxiety and restlesness are present during the whole day.
Day 4: worst anxty, still no appetite. Same symptoms as before except that this time i wake up in the middle of the night trembling, with some anxiety and my hands still making fist shapes really tight. Mentally i start feeling isolated, dont want to talk to anybody dont really care about nothing. Still manage to go to work but i do my best to avoid people, bright lights, loud noises and basically anything.
Day 5: This was the worst day. I somehow manage to get even less sleep and woke up again trembling, hands tight and anxiety. i stay in bed trying to sleep from 3 am to 7 am to go to work. I feel incredibly weak, probably not eating has taken its toll so i force myself to eat some cheerios. Almost vomited. When i get home from what i could describe hell i suddenly start geting depressing thoughts and even suicidal thoughts, but im no pussy and i know they go away …
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Dr. Katz - Mon, 24 Jul 2017 11:41:03 EST ID:sEszI2j9 No.136354 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>136346
Sounds like a combination of acute alprazolam withdrawal coupled with problems from going on a coke bender. Although this mostly sounds benzo related if you were taking higher and higher doses on a daily basis for a week straight.
Usually 7 days of taking benzos isn't enough for full blown withdrawal.

How often did you drink alcohol following the coke/alprazolam week?
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Tukker - Wed, 26 Jul 2017 16:42:03 EST ID:U59P/lxC No.136389 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sounds more like a overdose, alprazolam (xanax) is a max of 3mg a day. so you consumed the ammount normally for 3 days which ofcourse is a dump thing to do.
To use it combined with cocaine is not a smart thing to do as it can cause life threatning overdose,increased side effects, worstened symptoms from co-occuring from medical problems and in some case with a high enough dosis it can cause death.
Take this suggestion, take a alpra 1mg, wait for another 3 hours and take another one and after that you smoke a big fat blunt after an 60-90 minutes. For more effect just smoke more, best combo there is. Oh yeah, go for a walk after that or a cycle lol.


Benzo alternative by Hamilton Blackford - Thu, 20 Jul 2017 06:23:14 EST ID:S1aE7nuZ No.136295 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hello
I plan on stopping the whole self-medication-dnm-benzo stuff for good and get myself something prescribed which helps with generalized anxiety disorder and isn't a benzo. I mostly use opiates, kratom or benzos and just had a month long break.
Currently I'm on like 1mg Klonopin a day since 2 weeks and stuff is just working too well. I'm solving life problems here which would put me in a state of crippling depression if I wasn't on benzos. But I don't wanna take them everyday get addicted, not finding a source, get withdrawals bullshit.
So what are some alternatives, I can get from a doctor to stop/reduce the urge to self-medicate.
Not gonna touch SSRIs or MAOIs. Lyrica sounds pretty good. Tianeptine maybe. Dunno, anyone got any experiences?
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StimLioness !JM2DTgXfqU - Sun, 23 Jul 2017 18:43:12 EST ID:tL6H7iKj No.136340 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Alts to benzos
>Phenibut
>Kava
>Alcohol
>Etiz
>Meditation
>Just sucking it up and toughing out your anxiety as it tears your insides apart
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Polly Wopperkuck - Mon, 24 Jul 2017 03:44:05 EST ID:K4DwwT9K No.136347 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>136340
I know etizolam is technically a 'thienodiazepine", but it works the same as a benzo so I'm not sure it really qualifies as an alternative.
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BLiNKEYBiLL - Mon, 24 Jul 2017 07:05:26 EST ID:Xpfg8i7h No.136348 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>136306
Be very careful of GABAgeric drugs like gabapentin and the like, they can be just as if not more dangerous compared to benzos and thienodiazepines. Both in terms of dependency and bodily damage.
Fuck I love me some gabapentin to the point where I keep my doses to once a week, it is so euphoric and i prefer it to benzos to 'get off' so to speak haha
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Phyllis Givinglin - Mon, 24 Jul 2017 07:19:32 EST ID:EX9JxS6n No.136349 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>136295
L-Theanine one is prettt decent
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Sidney Ginnerwill - Wed, 26 Jul 2017 10:38:44 EST ID:Z9pVP4Ep No.136385 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>136348
I got Gabapentin when I was in rehab. It was ok I guess, better than nothing but the tolerance build-up was rapid. I used to save them until I had like 1500mg or something like this, which would give me a strange but not uncomfortable high.
Would really like to try Lyrica, though. Maybe I should just order it from the dnm. But then again I got an appointment to a psychodoc next month, let's see what he's got to offer.
Thanks for the suggestions everyone.


benzos for studying? by Matilda Sollyshaw - Wed, 19 Jul 2017 18:24:10 EST ID:1j8bnXW/ No.136281 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I can't study, I'm always anxious/tired (but tired in the type of way that makes you anxious/high blood pressure)

will xanax help me chill so I can study?
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Fuck Tootdale - Wed, 19 Jul 2017 23:33:43 EST ID:INnlSvg6 No.136286 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>136284
Just curious as to what your field of major is in?
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Dr. Katz - Thu, 20 Jul 2017 00:53:06 EST ID:LNlHBoqv No.136290 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>136286
Undergrad: psychology
Masters (current): counseling
I'm applying to the doctoral counseling psychology program at my university fall 2018 prior to the completion of my M.A.
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Fuck Tootdale - Thu, 20 Jul 2017 09:30:00 EST ID:INnlSvg6 No.136296 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>136290
Cool, good luck!
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Nicholas Pockson - Tue, 25 Jul 2017 23:29:21 EST ID:9n9Pvxg0 No.136382 Ignore Report Quick Reply
A stimulating kratom strain or any kratom strain + caffeine might be better suited for you than a benzo if your anxiety is pretty mild. Just find a reputable source, don't use it everyday, and learn how to moderate your consumption.

L-theanine, l-agamatine, 5-htp, whatever, might work for you too but if you need something a little stronger but not totally unhealthy then there's no problem with using kratom once in a while.
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Cedric Blackdale - Wed, 26 Jul 2017 01:55:16 EST ID:uuCP20hT No.136383 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I would look at non-pharmacological or natural solutions like diet and exercise, psychotherapy, and maybe dietary supplements

Seeing l-theanine on here I've had good results with that


Help by Hedda Sivingfield - Tue, 25 Jul 2017 15:07:43 EST ID:MQAbXvxg No.136370 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I have a few of these Xanax pills.
How many do I have to take to get high.
I have no tolerance.

I use to take bars.
Help me out guys.
How many? :)
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StimLioness !JM2DTgXfqU - Tue, 25 Jul 2017 15:41:04 EST ID:ktnDDI/H No.136371 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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They're one mg. With no tolerance (or I should say little tolerance as you said >I use to take bars.) 2-3 of em would be sufficient.
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Hedda Sivingfield - Tue, 25 Jul 2017 16:21:45 EST ID:MQAbXvxg No.136372 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>136371
No risk of blacking out with three of em or?
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StimLionsUncle - Tue, 25 Jul 2017 16:37:12 EST ID:nPzOlhba No.136374 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>136372
they can effect people differently, for me personally any more than 3mg and it's pretty much a guarantee that i'll pass out within a couple hours unless I have some coffee or some other stim. Never blacked out at that dose though, just get tired and eventually go lay down

I don't really understand why you're asking this though if you're already familiar with bars, it's just half a bar.
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StimLioness !JM2DTgXfqU - Tue, 25 Jul 2017 23:06:25 EST ID:ktnDDI/H No.136381 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>136372
I would say its pretty unlikely unless you're literally a 7 year old child in which case you probably shouldnt be posting on 420chan...
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Dr. Katz - Wed, 26 Jul 2017 11:47:02 EST ID:sEszI2j9 No.136387 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>136370
OP is beyond confused.
>posts a photo of 1mg Actavis alprazolam
>mentions having experience with "bars"
Bars are two milligrams. These are one milligram. Dose accordingly and stay safe.

nb


moggadon by Lydia Negglekure - Mon, 24 Jul 2017 22:03:46 EST ID:vkghEN/C No.136360 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Whats /benz/ consensus on nitrazepam (mogodons). I have over 200 5 mg pills but havent taken any yet. What can i expect from them or are they no good. Currently taking 20 mg of Valium everyday and the moggies seem to get prescribed easily in australia
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Dr. Katz - Tue, 25 Jul 2017 01:33:30 EST ID:sEszI2j9 No.136363 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>136360
I've always wanted to try nitrazepam!
Equivalency charts indicate that 10mg diazepam = 10mg nitrazepam (objectively).
Subjective effects to either drug must be taken into account for safety purposes.
Fuck OP, have fun! And be safe, really.
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Lydia Negglekure - Tue, 25 Jul 2017 02:36:22 EST ID:vkghEN/C No.136365 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>136363
Wilĺll do


PAWS and re-administering benzo's by Phineas Cuzzleware - Thu, 29 Jun 2017 02:26:06 EST ID:yNrBbNWG No.135957 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How likely does /benz/ think it would be that caving in and using a single dose of say 1-2mg of etizolam or 1mg of diclazepam or 10mg of valium be to send someone who has gone through severe withdrawal/PAWS from benzo dependence back into full on withdrawal?

I have been off of benzos completely for 8 months not even letting a spec of them into my body and went off of a near daily consumption habit cold turkey which triggered horrible withdrawals and PAWS that lasted about 5 months. During the PAWS phase of withdrawal I was religiously monitoring my drug intake to insure I didn't take anything that fucks with GABA receptors and only smoked weed and tripped on psychedelics. When the subjective effects of PAWS ended at the tail end of 5 months CT i've had a couple beer on rare occasions(not enough to get drunk just mildly buzzed) and I haven't noticed any rebound anxiety or a decline in my mental state, so is this a good indication that if I can keep my benzo use to once a month from now on just to deal with a buildup of anxiety/trapped feelings/hopelessness that i'll be safe to use them?

I really feel like they will come in handy for me as an occasional escape hatch now that i've incorporated meditation, a nutrient regimen and psychotherapy into the mix of coping strategies and don't have any desire to get in the habit of popping pills everyday as the main remedy. I'm confident I won't fall off the wagon this time around as i've been sitting with a stash of hundreds of pills and haven't even entertained the thought of taking them, but i'm really traumatized from the withdrawal and am a bit of a pussy now and fear getting thrown right back into PAWS since on forums like benzo-buddies etc. lots of people warn of that very thing happening from a single valium or a bottle of beer. This escape hatch idea seems more and more like it could be beneficial rather than maladaptive as meditation/psychotherapy only goes so far to take some of the weight of the world off my shoulders and due to this I get an inevitable buildup of stress that spills over and sends me back into a state of suicidal ideation and isolation that impedes me from healing and getting ahead in the world/…
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Ian Honeystock - Mon, 17 Jul 2017 18:04:54 EST ID:EwUic2eK No.136252 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thanks for the advice on this subject, Dr. Katz.

I kept waiting to receive more replies but I guess not too many people have experience. I'm still trying to talk myself into trying one again if only so I might tie up some loose ends from all this stress that has built up. I'm not even sure if they would work as well after going through PAWS and going through another withdrawal just so I can function better for an afternoon or something even if they did prove effective doesn't seem worth it, i'm still scared to take that chance even if it is extremely low that I will suffer for it.

Some close friends have noticed my agoraphobic tendencies impacting me more and more and some things are just too stressful to face without having something to relieve the pressure so the only thing i'm comfortable doing after a certain point is avoiding the more stressful obligations entirely...I realize i've been going around in circles here...dammit.
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James Crevingbone - Thu, 20 Jul 2017 20:19:25 EST ID:EwUic2eK No.136303 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well I finally ended up getting the courage to try some etizolam since I had an engagement to attend which I really couldn't get out of without harsh criticism and I didn't feel like making a bad impression by shutting down socially while I was visiting. Everything went well and the etizolam took care of the social anxiety but I wish I had 1mg tablets instead of 2mg capsules because the whole day and sequence of events got jumbled a bit. There's no rebound anxiety and no craving to abuse them so I can take them sparingly from now on if I absolutely need to but next time i'll have to dump out half the capsule and just take around 1mg at the most, I forgot how strong they can be...I don't like amnesia at all.
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Dr. Katz - Fri, 21 Jul 2017 02:11:11 EST ID:LNlHBoqv No.136305 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>136303
glad to hear that you didn't have any PAWS from the 2mg etizolam dosage. As I had mentioned earlier, especially with the kindling effect and withdrawal, you were able to drink alcohol without any issues. People who are in benzo withdrawal should NOT drink. Far too many individuals that I have known "recommend" alcohol for minor withdrawals, but I don't think it's a good idea.

Less is more with benzos. Some of us have to learn that the hard way
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Angus Billingwater - Mon, 24 Jul 2017 08:29:53 EST ID:v6PJQ+77 No.136350 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I went through PAWS earlier this year. Once I cleared it, I went back to drinking a few beers a week, and I take 0.5mg once a week to help sleep.

No problems on my end
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Mon, 24 Jul 2017 15:20:55 EST ID:JIaMiHb1 No.136357 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135957
OP I've been benzo dependent and PAWS.

Last year I got married, and the two months leading up to that + 4 condenses classes made me into a benzo fiend.

Luckily it was 97% etizolam and 3% xanax, so I'm not sure how dependent I was around the clock, but I was using a lot. Like 4-12mg a day over and over drinking on top too.

Quitting and detoxing was hard. But I would say after about 6-8 months most of it went away. I have GAD so its hard to use them responsibly when I could genuinely use like 4mg etiz/day.

I am basically trying what you are doing OP. I'm going to order either 500mg etizolam powder or 500mg diclaz powder very soon. I used to use pellets but my source went down and my new one sells all 3 (pellets powders and PG).

I'm sort of curious how long term benzos will affect me. I haven't really used enough diclaz Diaz loraz and clonaze to know for sure.

I'm just going to avoid daily use at all costs. I finally sleep okay and it took a year for that to happen.


UNCERTAIN by Isabella Fancocke - Wed, 05 Jul 2017 01:49:43 EST ID:oOOQs/cy No.136039 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>/benz/

but you can't get high on benzodiazepine

can you?
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Clara Drattingsore - Sat, 15 Jul 2017 01:15:21 EST ID:3XsIGkQW No.136205 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>136164
>oxazepam

My experience with oxazepam is that it's not very recreational at all. If you're using it for anxiety it might be good. It's not great for insomnia (at least not the can't-fall-asleep kind) as you need to take it 4 hours prior to bed. That same slow onset makes it pretty dull recreationally too. Delusions of sobriety are also worse when the onset takes ages and it's very easy to redose and just end up falling asleep or blacking out.
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Bombastus Werrywag - Sun, 16 Jul 2017 21:06:15 EST ID:ZN6wR/C/ No.136237 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>136203
That's because we come from /opi/ lol.

>>136205
This is very true. Temazepam clonazepam and lorazepam as well but again, I come from /opi/ so I have a very skewed idea of the enjoyment of long lasting benzodiazepines.
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Hamilton Shittingman - Sun, 16 Jul 2017 21:26:39 EST ID:P8ykr6CN No.136238 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>136237
>come from /opi/

Hah, yeah me too. You could well be right that it skews appreciation of benzos. They certainly don't really grab me these days
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Hugh Honeyfuck - Mon, 17 Jul 2017 10:46:05 EST ID:bXQwGPdo No.136248 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>136039
Really? I just take 2mg clonazepam and feel great, but I also combine it with alcohol and weed if I have it. I treat it like a social event kind of thing. If I'm alone I wouldn't bother taking it.
But if I go to a party I have a much easier time connecting with people and flirting with girls
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StimLioness !JM2DTgXfqU - Sun, 23 Jul 2017 13:33:31 EST ID:vfHRG/Pn No.136336 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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You can get higher than anything off benzos. They are both the most functional to use and worst to abuse drugs.

Shit can make you black out for days and ruin your life on autopilot, at least heroin just makes you fall asleep.


midazolam/pregabalin (Lyrica) interaction by Eugene Crammerbanks - Sun, 16 Jul 2017 07:55:33 EST ID:1rld7Bzw No.136220 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Not sure that I'm posting this in the right place. I'm a relapsed heroin addict, taking Lyrica for withdrawals from heroin and methadone. I'm not with a doctor, buying everything on the street. I have a minor procedure on Thursday of this week, where I will be administered IV midazolam for the duration. They do not know about my drug history.

I'm worried that the Lyrica will potentiate the effect of this sedative. I've taken it recreationally before with valium, and I know they enhance eachother.

Pregbalin has a half-life of 1.5 days, but apparently it forms some metabolites that have an unknown half-life - http://mentalhealthdaily.com/2015/11/09/how-long-does-lyrica-stay-in-your-system-after-stopping/

Does anyone have any experience of mixing these two drugs? should I stop taking the pregbalin on Tuesday or if I can't, should I cancel my procedure?

I would be grateful for any advice, or if someone could let me know the correct board to ask this question. Thanks in advance.
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Angus Fellerfadging - Thu, 20 Jul 2017 15:20:24 EST ID:x1E9MLIx No.136299 Ignore Report Quick Reply
well you should tell them about your drug history. theyre surgeons not cops they do tons of drugs lmfao


Z drukkin by Angus Fellerfadging - Thu, 20 Jul 2017 15:14:41 EST ID:x1E9MLIx No.136298 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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i have eszolped 28 of my clones(14mg 10:16am next 3:10pm), and i am feelin fine, getin this thrad if you do drugz with a z
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Fucking Nendleham - Sat, 22 Jul 2017 18:05:03 EST ID:kdS+uTc7 No.136327 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lmao


/benz/ and /psy/ - what do you think? by Wesley Binkinshaw - Sun, 16 Jul 2017 09:24:53 EST ID:rVF6pFBu No.136223 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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i know that people mainly use benzos and psychedelics together when they need to stop a bad trip, but I was wondering if benzos and psychedelics make for a good combination on its own. I've read that it can reduce the mental part of a trip, but does it reduce visuals as well?
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Brain - Sun, 16 Jul 2017 15:37:55 EST ID:hOmWV+4Y No.136230 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>136223
I've tried it once and honestly it wasn't fun. I did kill the mental to an extent but I got no visuals at all. It really fucked me up mentally for the majority of the trip. It's hard for me to explain because psy's put you in that introspective mental state.

Anyways I wouldn't recommend it. Hell, someone might even post they had a fucking blast. Everyone's different
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Nigel Horryshaw - Mon, 17 Jul 2017 20:15:52 EST ID:ejRvuaTg No.136257 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I tried taking etizolam right before a trip once to see what happened and it honestly barely even effected me. The only noticeable result was worse memory.
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Dr. Katz - Tue, 18 Jul 2017 15:51:36 EST ID:DmZpK76S No.136272 Ignore Report Quick Reply
In my opinion, the combination is EXCELLENT. Something more sedating such as mushrooms would need a lower dosage of your benzo of choice. But something like LSD could still have a mild to moderate dosage without diminishing many of the effects of the trips. Then you have the classical 2C-Xs that are hit/miss with benzos depending on your chemical choice. Psychedelics like DMT don't mix well with benzos unless you're having a harsh/confusing comedown that leads to a freakout.

I've known people throughout high school and college who've said claims such as: benzos completely stop the trip, benzos destroy ALL headspace, and benzos even diminish ALL OEVs/CEVs/auditory hallucinations.
I've also met plenty of people who won't trip unless they have benzos on them and/or already ingested.

In my experience, unless you're dosing ridiculous amounts of benzos + booze then you aren't really going to have that much of a diminished trip. The only effects that have ever been diminished for me were the headspace/introspection, but this was barely noticeable. In fact, the headspace had a bit more clarity allowing me to think while the visual/auditory component were consisten with the same dosage of LSD without benzodiazepines involved. Cognitive issues can appear and decreased memory of the trip are possible as well.

A lot of this is assuming that you aren't taking 1 gram of mushrooms or 50ug of LSD. Moderate to high dosages of psychedelics and benzos can certainly pair well. Low dosages of both substances could be positive for a more social event (i.e. a concert/festival), but much of what I'm discussing would be from a standpoint of "I took a shitload of psychedelics and won't be able to leave the house for several hours." The mindfuck that many experience on higher dosages of psychedelics is much less pronounced when on benzos.

>I recommend this, but know your dosages of both substances prior to trying
>Too high of a dosage of a benzodiazepine + a psychedelic could lead to a train wreck of an experience


Clonazepam not working or too high an expectation? by Nathaniel Gannergold - Mon, 17 Jul 2017 18:11:55 EST ID:F/3q7gjJ No.136253 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hi. I traded some weed for klonopin ones and I've been messing with them the past couple of days. I looked online that a heavy dosage for someone with no tolerance is 1-2 mg or +2 mg. I didn't wanna blackout so at first I took just a milligram. Didn't feel anything.

Next time I took two milligrams and this time I noticed my legs went limp. I had a hard time walking back to my apartment. Psychonautwiki listed all kinds of subjective effects like sedation, relaxation, loss of motor control, amnesia, euphoria, but I experienced only sedation. My limbs were like spaghetti, but otherwise I could swear I was sober.

Third time I took 3 mg which was a bad idea. At first I felt like something was about to happen. I was somewhat giddy but not euphoric and the feeling was extremely subtle. I had to focus on being high to experience it. I got a bit bummed out because even after a strong dose I felt like sober plus a loss of a couple of IQ points and a sudden muscle atropy disease. So I took another mg and drank a beer. I remember feeling a tad more buzzed from the beer than usual but nothing spectacular. I stayed at home and browsed stupid memes. Next thing I know it's the day after and I have no recollection of the past 12-16 hours. Apparently I slept and somehow managed to smudge my sheets in chocolate (thank god it really was chocolate. I almost flipped when I saw my bed).

Is this what clonazepam is like? Nothing spectacular until you take a blackout dose? Combining it with weed made me feel super sleepy and it kinda ruined the high. I'd rather drink syrup and smoke. Does clonazepam work against a bad acid trip?
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Nathaniel Gannergold - Mon, 17 Jul 2017 18:17:08 EST ID:F/3q7gjJ No.136254 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I should probably mention that I don't take any other medications or drugs besides weed and an occasional beer. I'm a tall man but I weight less than your girlfriend.
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Sophia !0R/XnN1IK. - Mon, 17 Jul 2017 18:57:20 EST ID:MPRjicNh No.136255 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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You, my friend, don't have bad enough anxiety.
That's my best guess. When I was 19 and young and happy, a friend gave me Klonopin and told me how awesome it was.
Yeah. I took 4 pills (yellow, so I think I took 2mg total) and drank a few beers and I just felt the beers. Friend sold me a bottle so I took 8 one day. NOTHING.

5 Years later and 2mg of Klonopin relieves my eternal pain (lol). The relief from the crippling anxiety I suffer from IS the high.
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Nathaniel Gannergold - Mon, 17 Jul 2017 19:15:43 EST ID:F/3q7gjJ No.136256 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>136255
Well fuck, man. I guess I'm lucky I'm not anxious enough to get the actual therapeutical relieve from this. Still sucks. I should've kept the weed.


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