/benz/ Benzodiazepine Discussion
every time I take valium then smoke a bowl when I peek it seems to just become a dull high but separately they work fine. effects diminish quickly as well. anyone else get this?
how could smoking weed, in any case, make you LESS high?
>>144842same as taking benzos when tripping on LSD makes you less high
Benzos lower the effects of pretty much every drug with the exception of downers.
>>144870Downers + downersSynergy is real shitnb
i get the opposite effect
I mean, to the naked eye, these bars look BEAUTIFUL. But they're completely INERT. Now this is the perfect business model for someone selling this beautiful counterfeit bars. It's the perfect con. The strength of the "placebo effect" is so strong...and lucrative apparently..
My advice is to find a reputable kpin vendor. Problem solved
I forgot the fucking TWIST:Alright to this is a BIG TIME Xanax Bar Vendor. Trusted vendor 5000+ transactions etc. All this from a nice looking press.
>>144958I'm looking at doing this in the UK, but generally speaking vendors don't sell fakes it's so easy to test your orders the vendor wouldn't get more than a few sales before the market realises. $1 is an average price per 2mg bar here.
That's why I buy them in original packaging and full blisters, I stick with clonazepam and alprazolam pills, diazepam amps for iv/im. Also I'm from Europe so it's kinda different here. By the way, a lot of people are aware they buy presses with rc benzos but are ok with that as long as they have a steady supply and pills work without killing them by fent OD.
After searching the web and not finding any conclusive answers, I thought I'd come to you guys as you are probably the most knowledgeable about this type of thing.Is olanzapine a benzo?
>>144953Nope. Olanzapine (Zyprexa) is an atypical antipsychotic. Drugs like olanzapine are sometimes called mood stabilizers. >After searching the webWhat did you search for? As soon as you type a drug name into google you’ll not only find out what class of drug it is, but also what common effects, name brands, and on/off label uses are.
>After searching the web
>>144953I am prescribed olanzapine for anxiety, a rather uncommon indication for the drug. It is very anxiolytic, at least it was when i first started taking them. I gained 100lbs after starting olanzapine, weight gain is the most common side effect. The manufacturer has been sued thousands of times for causing diabetes in people.
Im gonna take Xanax soon, and I almost know nothing about it.
>>144698Do NOT hiccup
>>144698 Don't drink on it. You will get high and think, "oh, I can just have one drink" then you will wake up the next day with an empty liquor bottle and have fucked some whore you never would have fucked sober and feel like a slut if you don't die in your sleep.
>>144827Addiction does that, don't blame substance for people's preexisting issues and lack of self control which leads to such problems
>>144837for a lot of substances that's true, but literally the main effect that benzos have is they lower your inhibitions and sense of self control as well as suppressing your ability to tell how fucked up you are; compulsive redosing is almost guaranteed if you pass the blackout threshold
>>144698>Tips on taking Xanax Don’t
>Tips on taking Xanax
I just started taking Ativan for panic attacks and last night I doubled up to 2mg because I wanted to see what it would do. I walked like I was drunk without the other feelings. The one thing I noticed is I had verrrry vivid nightmares.Has anyone else had this?
>>144616I never had that reaction, granted I've been lucid dreaming on and off ever since I was a kid. Were you conscious during your dream? Vivid does not necessarily mean lucid.
I had nightmares and very realistic dreams when I started taking alprazolam after few months long break, it went away in little more than a wekk
PREFACE: I am well aware of the notorious potential physical dependency and rapid tolerance build up that benzos have. I understand that benzos are not to be underestimated. But I nevertheless think this class of drug can be immeasurably beneficial to me, a deeply mentally ill person. Alright lads. So I have a documented anxiety disorder, and tomorrow I'm going to ask my long time shrink about potentially giving me benzos. I've gotten mixed reports on the difficulty of getting benzos. Some say it's easy (my normie wine-aunt has the shit, and I sure as shit know she doesn't have an anxiety disorder or PTSD and shit). However, others have told me it's the second hardest shit to get prescribed short of getting opiates because of the celebrity deaths and general stigma regarding downers. That being said, I have been seeing this guy for a while (established trust and what not) BUT I don't think he's a big fan of benzos (not that I've ever asked but it's just a hunch). Like, he's given me SSRIs for my anxiety, but those don't do jackshit for me. Furthermore, this dude already gives me a prescription for dexedrine (schedule II substance) and from what I heard, psychs who prescribe stims are hesitant to prescribe benzos at the same time (something about the DEA being anal and giving them shit for doing so).I know this thread looks like I'm just some degenerate bar tard, but I genuinely could use benzos. Like, this shit is therapeutic for me . I am genuinely mentally anguished, I need shit for my severe anxiety. My anxiety is ruining my fucking life. I miss classes because of this mental disorder.PS: are there other "less potent" benzos that can be used to treat anxiety that aren't as potent as xans? Furthermore, with benzos I'm planning on taking them on a "as needed" basis (as opposed to a daily basis) to avoid physical dependency, is this advisable?
>>144694I went to a psych and cried in his office about my debilitating anxiety attacks (truecrying, im not reccomending manipulation) and he gave me benzos first appointment, ven though im already on ssris. bring them up as a potential help for attacks that you just cant get through and docs are usually pretty reasonableIve gotten several prescriptions from doctors by expressing how bad my attacks are.
>>144785Yeah, my doc is older and an indian guy, gave me benzos first appt.
What to say to get midazolam?
>>144799Asking your doctor would probably be my best guess, either that or having surgery or stealing some from a hospital(don’t do that) or something.Not sure if they even prescribe midazolam pills in the US, but I know it is prescribed in some European countries, presumably for insomnia and not so much for anxiety.I hear midazolam is pretty disappointing when used any way but IV though.
>>144801I'm from Europe, we definitely have midazolam pils for home. Dormicum 7.5mg and 15mg. Just bought some on a dnm. My doctor doesn't like benzos, if I am persistent enough I can get 2mg diazepam. I actually had the chance to steal 1l iv midazolam. Guess we'll see if it's good once my mail is here.
I heard Klonopin isn't usually detectable in urine analysis, I'm getting a job at an airport and I'm willing to quit weed but they do randoms.Anyone have experience with kpins and UAs? I wanna know if I'll be safe if I take 1mg a day of kpins.
Uhhh well you heard wrong. If they test for benzos you’ll pop up dirty for benzos(surprise I know)
>>14476399% chance you will fail. Kpins last forever in your system too.
>>144763OP you should switch to either etizolam or maybe flualprazolam. Etizolam will cause a false positive on cheap dip tests, but usually comes back negative from the lab.
>>144763For some reason at my clinic klonopin doesn't show up, I have no idea why, multiple people with prescriptions and others using recreationally, have no idea why and didn't believe it until I took it multiple times expecting to get found dirty but didn't, don't base your decisions off this though since ive never heard of this happening any other time in my life, i wouldn't bet on it if its for a good paying job, your future is worth more than a fucking benzo high in my humble opinion.
>>144769I believe this to be true. Lab tests, whomever (company etc) can say to discard samples from the lab, and possibly test ones they believe the person(s) could be using. Like people showing in some cases 'overly' high behavior. So just keep cool I guess. Otherwise, some tests will go through no matter what. I used to see we called the piss guy, who would pick up samples. He was like the milkman, carrying containers of pee back to the lab in his pee-transportation-mobile. Nice guy.,
Is 250g alprazolam like 2/3 weeka going to land me In seizure territory when I run out? I'm a bigger dude 200+ poundsI've been dosing the equivalent of 3 or four bars daily for these two and a half weeks and I'm worried because I would to be able to re-up in time. Also, will drinking alcohol combat the GABA depletion or is that just silly. Thanks for for your replies.
>>144703Why I'm glad I've only taken every few weeks, some of these people getting addicted, shit must be bad
>>144712He just says that, and while it's generally true, booze is better than nothing. The problem is you need an initial dose plus an extra drink every single 40-70min interval, and if you run out/stop taking it you just WD the same or even worse.Basically booze should only be used as a stop gap.
>>144717Op here. I'm planning on using booze in conjunction with the rationed off taper to get me through until next week. I went all day without today and was generally fine albeit a bit sweaty and delirious at work. Still didn't stop me from wondering if I was about to experience a grand mal on the walk home.[not that I felt "close" to one; I just had that bit of a notion of a thought] I sincerely think I am just making a big fuss of a smallish issue. So I hope not to worry anyone reading this [raspberry]
>>144717But is booze really better than nothing? Like you said, we're talking about re-dosing every 40-70 minutes. I have heard that re-dosing for alcohol withdrawal is anywhere from 45 minutes to 2 hours, but I have never heard beyond 2 hours.Even with the fastest acting benzos (that are typically Rx'd) they still last much longer than 2 hours between dosages. Hence, why I tell people to avoid alcohol.>you just WD the same or even worsePrecisely. If your chance of WDs are the same or worse then there is not an inherent benefit in using alcohol with in benzodiazepine withdrawal. >stop gapInteresting. I have only seen anecdotal reports and known of other anecdotes from friends who thought that booze would help with their short-term (i.e. etizolam and alprazolam) WDs, but never much success. The usage as an intermediate and in conjunction with benzos seems to pose more negative than positive consequences, but there is probably some minor benefit as a "stop gap."
>you just WD the same or even worse
Eh, don't worry about the alcohol, it does work. Vise Versa. Well versed Drs have agreed on that. Kind of a lot of benzos though to be taking. One can get by with a lot less just as well. My usage has been the same for as many years.
Hello there /benz/I had the audacity to take 4 MG of Clonazepam last night, I suspeceted a night of heavy sleeping followed by a bizarre waking up 13 hours later,. But ready to hit the new day.I had a surprise, though, I still feel the Clonzapem through me. Feel like Im "drunk" but my words dont slur. Came to the office, had a pretty interesting chat with my boss about a Monday meeting, I was calm and collected and said just the right words.When can I expect the drug to wear off?Can I keep the efect of remaining calm and collected during the Monday meeting without feeling the drunk like effects with a smaller dosage?I had to take a bowl of some pretty nice herb to mild the effects of the Clonazepam, but this is... interesting. I can see some use to this drug, but Im still not convinced its my thing.Any thoughts /benz/?Much love and happy holidays.
yeah that's your version of the story, chances are you been looking like a zombie and mumbling random shit, that's called delusions of sobriety and with 4 fucking mg of clonazepam for your (probably) first ever benzo experience it's very likely to happenno idea what the hell were you thinking to start with that dose, I mean to each their own but half of that would be enough even for people who have some natural benz tolerance or whatever that makes them feel weaker it should wear off soon, take half of your dose on that meeting and you should be ok, don't mix it with alcohol cause bad things will happen
>>144666I took it the night before. At around 11 PM. I woke up at around 01 PM still feeling drunky. I guess the dosage is way to high. I think Ill better avoid taking anything before the meeting.Thank you though.
The first time i started messing with clonazepam i was 16 or so and had just got a script from the doctor for "panic attacks" and after a couple days of taking 2mg a day and not being and to feel any discernible effects i took 4mg one morning and still couldn't really tell i was getting effected by anything, so i regularly took 4mg in the mornings for weeks not realizing they were probably fucking me up good and proper while i was at school and driving and shit lol. Over the years of having that script and having kpins so readily accessible i started to be able to discern the effects better and developed more of a taste for them and started to realize the more subtle ways the effected me, and once that happened it just embarrassed me more and more the way i probably acted when i first got them
wtf, i mix it with methadone with xanax/ tafil (mexican/Pfizer version i can get without prescription over the border)and gives me a nice buzz. but for some reason klonazepam kicks my ass till the point i suffer dissociate episode and dont remember shit of what happened the last day. xanax just brings my mean junkie mood if im not feeling good.
>>144558Right. Some people will argue that though. Alprazolam hits hard and fast. Clonazepam comes on slow and lasts long.
>>144559I took 7 mg of alprazolam. Didn't get me fucked up and im just a hardcore heroin addict with a 40 mg of methadone daily. Just fell asleep for a while and i was in a shitty mood, just aggressive simililar to drunk aggressive just fucking with people.Benzos are like alcohol they don't make me happy like opiates.
>>144569This might be totally obvious and unhelpful, but have you ruled out delusions of sobriety? Large doses of alprazolam have similar effects on me(insist I’m sober but will Fucking fight you broad daylight, in front of like 50 people and not remember why)
>>144585well today i took 7 mg and shot 40 mg of xanax with filter. it fuck me good and proper. i just hate that i barely remember anything in the last 24 hours or so.
>>144653Benzos have quite a bit of synergy as it is with a lot of drugs. Do you have a high alcohol tolerance or history of using GABA-A or GABA-B drugs?
To most of you, when you take benzos do you get a substantial relief from daily anxiety? Or is it just more of a fun way to numb yourself and if you weren't on benzos you would enjoy life just fine and have no problem chilling out?
I used to binge on them and mix with opiates few years ago, now I save them up for the most stressful days at work or social events and I'm quite proud of myself
>>144604Yeh I don't get how some people can work with them,most benz, xanax or diazapam put me straight to bed, but I guess my tolerance is low because I don't use that often.
>>144612Yeah man, that's why you gotta brew a nice pot of coffee, and sip on that. The benzos take away any jitters or anxiety from the caffien, and the coffee keeps you nice and awake so you can get things done while still enoying your benz high.
>>144602Yup, that's precisely what I was referring to with combining benzos with other classes of drugs. >>144623Or, a nice strong pot of tea will do the trick. Also, having a monster tolerance helps!
>>144624Nice 4u bro, I think ill just use them occasionally, for sleeping or anxiety, I'm not bothered about the whole getting high on benz thing tbh
Would it be painful or scary to kill oneself with xanax and alcohol?
>>144408Please seek out help, OP. It is in your best interest to find a therapist and quite possibly a good idea to check into an inpatient unit for suicidal ideation. Overdose deaths involving benzodiazepines and alcohol are not common. No one on this site with a glimmer of humanity is going to say that this is a good idea or provide other means lethal means of completing suicide. >PainfulVery much so if you’re found and get your stomach pumped. Mentally and physically, you’ll be in pain. >ScaryDepends on if you’re afraid to die.
>>144408It wouldn't work correctly.
>>144408Enjoy choking on your own vomit. Apart from a fat shot of high dose fentanyl analogue and a potent hypnotic RC benzo both in the same syringe (think carfentanyl and say flubromazolam), there's no guarantee at all. Even then, you need to have basically zero tolerance to both.Get help and stop ruining xanax's image.
>>144408Go back to the future with this suicide bs, I'd prefer real discussions on here
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