/benz/ Benzodiazepine Discussion
I'm curious as to what most pressed bars have in them. Is it alprazolam, another benzo, fentanyl? These ones are from a large city on the gulf coast. I took one about 25 minutes ago and already feel very good, warm, but not opiate warm, just nice and relaxed as hell... cheers.
>>144631Alprazolam-only bars do exist, but there are also bars pressed with a combo of fent/benz/thieno that are common.Without finding the source and/or having your bars tested in a lab then there isn’t much more that you can do. But, you could test at home for fent. I do suggest engaging in at home test kits without a question.
>>144631They mostly contain a sleu of real xanax, Flualprazolam (tastes the same as real xanax), clonazepam (increased euphoria), etizolam (similar to xanax), and all other common RC benzos.Fentanyl is rarely ever put in a xanax press on purpose. 99% of the time its caused by cross contamination of equipment.
>>144644Sorry, I meant to say they contain clonazolam, NOT clonazepam. Damn autocorrect.
Etiz is awesome. I know that. However I did grams so idk if it works well anymore unless I take a lot. Looking for recreational ones but also functional ones (I do have a kpin script for the month)Clonazolam is legit, but will it pass a drug test in NV(Las Vegas). Just in case I get in trouble.Is Bromazolam alright? I've heard it's recreational.Also interested in Flualprazolam.Nitrazolam is an option too but I've never heard of it.Obviously I'm doing research but a bit overwhelmed.
>>144495>Clonazolam I have heard mixed instances on clonazolam and actually passing UAs a majority of the time, but all of those reports are anecdotal. If you're going to take an RC benzo/thienodiazepine just assume that the drug is going to flag for a false (if not an actual) positive for benzos. There are plenty of horror stories with this drug. Only one or two posters have seemed to be able to safely use the drug without slipping into major addiction and/or completely fucking up their lives. >FlualprazolamI've heard that tolerance builds much faster, again anecdotally, compared to other RC benzos. While the drug is touted as being nearly 2x the potency per milligram than alprazolam, other posters have said that the drug is either on par or only 1.5x the potency of alprazolam. >EtizolamI think that etizolam has a lot of therapeutic and recreational potential. The drug is very functional and prescribed in a couple of countries. >SuggestionsDiclazepam is solid for medicinal usage and tapering. One of the main active metabolites in diclazepam is lorazepam, so that's something to keep in mind. Some people really enjoy lorazepam, but a lot of people think it's garbage compared to alprazolam or etizolam.
clonazolam's great for ruining your fucking life
>>144495Here is a list of RC benzos that are absolutely as safe as at least valium/xanax.>phenazepam>diclazepam>etizolam>3-hydroxy-phenazepamflualprazolam just raped my tolerance disproportionately to how strong it was. It lasted too long as well. cLam is fun as a once a month or less type of drug, where you treat it like GHB in that you carefully measure your dose and don't redose whatsoever. Just don't take 1mg like a retard. IME 125ug of cLam roughly equals 1mg etizolam. 200-250ug cLam is a great recreational dose, but seriously don't dose that poison more than one or two days in a row MAX. It should be treated like MDMA and taken only a few times per year.
>>144540Oh my fucking god, blast from the past in that pic.I remember when macs all had a similar scheme.
I hear so many different opinions on snorting benzos, is it actually entirely useless? Would love to hear from anyone with experience. Primarily interested in ativan/valium. Thanks.
snort lorazepam its one of the few that dissolves in the mucus membrane
>>144364God damn it. Triazolam and midazolam are the main benzos that have a higher BA in IV or insufflated. Yeah, lorazepam is more water soluble than other commonly Rx’d benzos, but this doesn’t mean that you should snort it. Again ALMOST ALL FUCKING BENZOS SHOULD BE TAKEN VIA ORAL ADMINISTRATION. Mmmm caps lock.
>>144381This. Just because lorazepam's solubility in water is RELATIVELY higher than that of other benzos doesn't mean it makes snorting them worth it.The reality is that snorting benzodiazepines in general does not offer very much RELATIVE gain compared to other RoA's. When you snort speed, you get a rush when it all hits you at once. There is not really an analogous feeling for benzodiazepines unless you are having a panic attack in a hospital and they give you an injection of IV midazolam. There's not much of a rush... more of just a very quick mindstate change.....Snorting benzos is not going to increase your fun. Plus, you know pills have tons of shit in them that you'd rather not have in your nose if you don't have to, right? The amount of active chemical in a pill compared to the amount of binder and other filler bullshit is extremely low...Save your nose, bro... it just isn't worth it.
For most benzos the best roa is sublingual with oral a close second.Unless you have one of the rare water soluble ones there isn't a point in snorting them.Don't see why you wouldn't use sublingual. It is slightly faster and the taste isn't bad at all.
>>144620If they're not water soluble why would they be absorbed through the oral mucosa but not the nasal? Perhaps the faster onset of sublingual dosing is due to the pill being dispersed so it has greater surface area when it reaches the stomach?
I'm not exactly a frequent user of /benz/ more use it for when I fly or am coming down off of certain drugs. I was going to order a few tablets of etizolam just to have a stash and I saw the site I was ordering from also sold diclazepam. Ive been told that they are very similar to regular valium, which was always a fan of whenever I was able to get a hold of some. I was just going to ask the pros over here on /benz/ to see if there was any truth to their comparison. Sorry if this is a common question but I searched back a few pages and didn't see a thread on this topic.
>>144407Diazepam and diclazepam are not really comparable. Diclazepam is closest to lorazepam (Ativan). Too, one of the active metabolites in diclazepam is lorazepam. A lot of websites will report that etizolam is similar to diazepam, but that’s not really accurate compared to other benzos/thienodiazepines that share more similarities.
Diazepam and diclazepam are similar in that both have a long half life and are great for tapering.By feel diclazepam is basically like lorazepam that lasts forever. If you're like me and hate lorazepam you'll hate diclazepam too.Diazepam on the other hand feels extremely nice (obviously that's subjective) imo the nicest commonly scripted benzo. Also despite the long half life the effects don't last very long.Tbh no rc benzo feels close to diazepam, sorry.Etizolam feels very nice too but the feeling isn't very close to any other common benzo.
So, I ordered a flualprazolam .5mg x 30ml solution to experiment with. I've heard conflicting reports on this chem - most either love it or hate it. Anyone here have any experience with it, and what benzo can it be most similar to?
OP here with an update.Solution came in today. I've taken around 2mg and it feels like the anxiolytic part of Xanax, but with much much more muscle relaxation. Also much more hypnotic.Effects length seem to be 2x-3x longer than alprazolam. Overall, it's a decent RC benzo that's worth a try.
Watch out for intense tolerance increase OP. Only thing I've really heard about this chemical.
Has anyone used their dog to get xanax? I read that dogs can be prescribed it so i wonder if it will be easier to get my dog xanax than myself xanax?
>>144522It's easier for you to get a script yourself. Dogs are prescribed low doses, anywhere from 0.01 mg to 0.05 mg per pound so you aren't going to get enough to make it worth it.
OP - you’re better off getting a script for yourself. Your animal is NOT going to get 2mg bars or even 1mg footballs of alprazolam. That just, well, doesn’t usually happen. Most people (i.e. humans) can attain a 0.5mg alprazolam prescription for panic disorder. Which, I consider not only to be average but a relatively moderate dosage for acute panic disorder without tolerance. Animals though? -even 0.5mg is rather high. An animal would likely be prescribed 0.125mg to 0.25mg alprazolam at most. >>144523I think that the lowest prescribed dosage is 0.125mg. The lowest most people are scripted is 0.25mg. Personally, even with friends and colleagues with “dog Xanax” they still have a script that is equivalent to what a human would take but at a much, much lower dosage.
>>144523Dawg, my boys (RIP) aunt had a german shepherd that was prescribed fucking bars. I would never have believed it if I hadnt seen a bottle that said "Dog's Name (K9) " and "Alprazolam 2mg". The bars were kinds i never saw before. It looked like a regular white bar, but it had a line in each of the two squares in the middle. Toook the fuck out of them. Combined with cocaine and im sure heroin, made some bad choices. Try to forget about it lol.
>took 2 5mg ambiens>didn't feel shitThis shit used to knock me out But I guess ambien is a weak benzo>inb4 you're not suppose to take it every nightobviously
>took 2 5mg ambiens>didn't feel shit
>inb4 you're not suppose to take it every night
>>144562I used to be able to get high from 10mg of Diaz, now it’s times 5 or something. Whoops.
Ambien never made me tired, relaxed a little. What it does do it make it to when you lay down in bed, you go right to sleep without your mind racing about some bullshit.
Got a .25 kpin script daily.Just ate 6.6mg etiz4.4 bromazolamAnd like 3 clonazolam, forgot th dosageI've OD on bulk a lot before so I have tolerance. But feeling good for now. Btw took it in a span of a few hours. TBH it's what I needed In life. PS I still did hella productive shit earlier.
>>144572Cool, this is more of a BWB post
Check this out: 2mg xanax, 600mg pregabalin, 600mg codeine and 150mg trazodone. I feel like a god! First, the xanax hits like a train because of the pregabalin. I tried the trazodone and it feels fantastic making me sleepy and to nod off hard. The codeine, well, you know what it does. This combo is not for an amateur, I have a lot of experience with these drugs. Adding trazodone sounds stupid but it goes very well with the rest. Fuck me, this feels fantastic!
Recently I fell in love with nitrazepam, powerful euphoria. I think that now it's my favourite benzo, i like it more than xanax.
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Any Zopiclone-heads out there?
I don’t understand how this actually works for people, i didn’t even take it every night and after two weeks I had built enough tolerance for it to stop working :/
call me mf doom cuz i got metal mouth
Yeah zopi is lovely. When I was first introduced I took it before playing some minecraft, expecting to start to feel drowsy, so I'd do off and sleep. Instead I got some fucking interesting visual effects which I haven't heard anyone else talk about. over a year or so I would spend like hours every 2nd or third night taking zopi 45 mins to an hour before bed and watching photos of flowers, or macros of moss and shit, it all used to have the appearance of breathing to me and it made me feel so relaxed to enjoy these super animated pictures of our world.I think my overuse has ruined the effect, I had a high tolerance I let wane, but even years after my biggest peak/roughest taper, the visual effects just werent there.I still enjoy the drugs, but I miss the visuals. If anyone knows anything about zopi visuals please tell me, I'm wondering if its related to my visual snow and tinnitus???
>>144536Oh and a followup, my love of the visuals was what caused me to develop extreme tolderance, I was chasing the effect, thinking if I took just a bit more (like 30mg+ from a standard dose of 7.5mg) that I'd find some magic spot.I had a few zopi blackouts during this time, where I made some fucked up ambien-tier facebook posts, ocassionally I'd blackout then come too discovering I had taken a bunch of different drugs and RCs.So I took a long break, I finally think I can trust myself to use responsibly (like right now), but boy, I miss those funky visuals
>>144128 I love it, I love how it sedates me and it is a powerful anxiolytic. When you take more than five tablets it gives you some kind of hallucinations, mostly auditory hallucinations and at dosages like that it hits you with euphoria.
Hey guys, I know this question has probs been asked over 100000 times here but here we go.On Friday i went over to a buddies place, picked up 3 bars and ate .25, then we said fuck it and ate another .25, then we blacked out. My friends roommate said we were looking around the house at like 2am thinking we lost the other bars so my buddy bought another one. It wasn't until the next morning that we discovered that we did in fact eat the other bar which took us to 4mg each that night. The next day i bought some more just cause i've read about withdrawals and took 2mg. Passed the fuck out playing WoW. SO i bought some more, I have 3 2mg bars and im wondering if i took like .25 would i feel anything if i smoked some weed with it? Should i take more? I dont wanna be doing xannax everyday but i've never really used this stuff before and im curious to know about tolerance.
>>144439hey Dr. Katz so im slipping into addiction and i wanna stop right now, i've been using for 6 days now, 1.5 then 1 then 2.75 then .25 and now 1g. how do i stop this right before i become addicted and go thru withdrawl hell
>>144466sorry not 1g on mg is a taper needed now? or should i just face the rebound stuff
>>144467You aren't gonna have withdrawl from just a week man, if you try to taper you're just gonna mame it worse
>>144466Again, re-read my initial reply >>144439Using a benzo daily for 6 days, particularly alprazolam, does NOT usually necessitate any sort of taper. The reality is that trying to taper wlll only prolong the possibility of physical addiction. >Should I just face the rebound stuffYes, as a taper is not needed after 6 days of daily administration of alprazolam. Rebound anxiety sucks, but you're better off stopping now than attempting a taper that may very well just make everything worse. >>144471Spot on.
>Should I just face the rebound stuff
>>144504heya, so ive been off xanax for a week now, had some super shitty withdrawls, if i take like 1mg will i have a tolerance anymore? will the come down/after effects be as bad?
Ok so I know at therapeutic doses it takes a while for physical dependency to take effect. But I've been doing monsterous does for...... Almost two weeks? I honestly don't know. Maybe a day or two in there with nothing. But I've been doing 10+ Xanax bars a day. Two days ago I ate 50 fucking bars in the span of 48 hours. Today I'm broke and have nothing. I've been really lethargic and lazy and depressed all day but that's not unusual. I've just felt odd. Can't get out of bed, I just don't want to. Last time I did anything was yesterday at like 4pm when I ate my last 7 and a half bars and felt nothing. I know I'm in for some psychological withdrawal that's a given, and I can handle that. My question is, am I gonna need the hospital tomorrow? Pic related
>>144447Damn dude, welcome to the seizure club. If you're already prone to them, benzos just make them so much worse. There isn't anything like the anxiety that you get knowing that an attempt to quit could end up with you on the ground.Best of luck man.
>>144453>get anxiety because of seizures>take more benzos to help the anxiety
>get anxiety because of seizures>take more benzos to help the anxiety
>>144450I second this, definitely try to find something with a longer half-life if possible, tapering with alprazolam or any short acting drug is probably gonna suck.
>>144319Update: I'm down 4 bars a day from 15-20 and I'm not feeling amazing but not shitty either. I think I might be able to do this. I have like 30 or 40 1m pills left, tomorrow I'm gonna start taking smallest amounts possible
>>144530I don't know shit about benzos man but it sounds like you've come way down already. Stay safe and take it easy man. Goodluck
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