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Benzinis and Alomahol. by Barnaby Waddleseck - Sat, 09 Dec 2017 05:20:46 EST ID:cEEipbTb No.138466 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Benzos and Alcohol. Is it as bad as they say?
Because I have a friend who just popped a 2 mg bar and a bit. And he's drank a number of drinks. The current drink is a delicious bourbon sprite mix. Accordingly.

I hear there's blackouts and like and risk factor. But I don't know much more than that. Is it plain stupid or stupid if you make it stupid?
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Priscilla Crangerfield - Mon, 11 Dec 2017 21:44:17 EST ID:4IKr9HXb No.138508 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138466
you seem nosy let ur freind do what they want
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Lydia Gugglewag - Tue, 12 Dec 2017 03:04:12 EST ID:cEEipbTb No.138512 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138508
My friend and I have an understanding.
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Lydia Gugglewag - Tue, 12 Dec 2017 03:06:04 EST ID:cEEipbTb No.138513 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138503
Sorry for your loss. And yeah; a lot of people do stupid shit around here and the world.
I don't know what makes sense but we just keep moving forward.
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Lydia Gugglewag - Tue, 12 Dec 2017 03:07:03 EST ID:cEEipbTb No.138514 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138502
I can dig it.

What about xan and coke; I hear they cancel each other out; but others say it's the best.
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StimLioness !JM2DTgXfqU - Tue, 12 Dec 2017 16:59:57 EST ID:tL6H7iKj No.138523 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>138514
Yeah that really depends. For people like me the effects on adhd are enough to help my interlinked anxiety that I like just the stim and maybe a benzo to come down typically just alcohol at most tho. Other's react to stims in a way it's better suited they have a benzo on it to enjoy it. You may or may not be that kind of person and I really think having add/adhd has much do with your answer to that question.

I have liked stims and more stim's and alcohol and stims more personally but have enjoyed benzos and stims in rare instances say if I'm stimming at work. It''s really based on how you react to stims like coke yourself. Cokes smooth and laid back tho so I can see xans + coke more than I can xans and meth imo for synergy.


"relapse" by Reuben Sungerbone - Sat, 09 Dec 2017 17:38:57 EST ID:pgt+D++j No.138483 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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so i had a seizure from quitting xanax cold turkey and went through hell with the withdrawals.

question is, when can i get back up on my bull shit and have like a small amount of a benzo like ativan????
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:20:35 EST ID:LNlHBoqv No.138491 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138483
That's pretty damn serious, OP. Withdrawals can be deadly if they are serious enough. The fact that seizures occurred during your withdrawal process is not uncommon, but it is concerning. Most people that I know who go through major benzo withdrawals rarely have seizures. Seizures are easily one of the most serious withdrawal symptoms.
How long were you taking Xanax (duration), what frequency, and at what dosage?
How long has it been since you've quit and the withdrawals have subsided?

Look into the Kindling Effect if you're thinking about taking another benzo in small amounts on a regular basis. The reality is is that you could probably take a small amount of Ativan on a single occasion and not have any negative symptoms following the dosage. None of us can really say for certain though.
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Esther Biggleridge - Sun, 10 Dec 2017 23:50:50 EST ID:FeBB2ve1 No.138495 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138483
>when can i get back up on my bull shit

Do yourself a huge favor and don't .
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StimLioness !JM2DTgXfqU - Mon, 11 Dec 2017 13:46:58 EST ID:tL6H7iKj No.138505 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>138495
Dude wants to go back to mild use which as a former (recent) heroin addict and as a life long poly drug (ab)user I understand totally both the mentality of wanting to go back to lighter, functional use and the danger and temptation that comes with.

All I can say OP is what I posted about on /stim/, don't let downers or any one drug, but definitely not downers control your life. Using them to get rid of anxiety, function at work and in public is great, hell even getting a lil schwasty now and then is great, but be careful with the devil you're dancing with. I'm not coming off on you from a position above you, but as a fuck up myself and just tryna help out.
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Tue, 12 Dec 2017 16:07:20 EST ID:C/ohmXNh No.138521 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138495
This


ambien thraed by Ebenezer Grandville - Thu, 07 Dec 2017 22:57:57 EST ID:snSDkNUx No.138449 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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go

took 30mm frst ambien inlike 5 years

on theboaat so too say SO yeahs yalll fuck with ambien?
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Fri, 08 Dec 2017 18:47:27 EST ID:LNlHBoqv No.138463 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138449
I was RX'd zolpidem for less than a year after zaleplon, trazodone, and a host of other off-label meds were prescribed for insomnia. Ambien (zolpidem) is one of those drugs that seem to be pretty love/hate. Personally, I never really gained anything from the experiences. The only time that I ever had anything major come up was during a gigantic blackout in which I took ~120mg zolpidem, 3-5mg clonazepam, 5-7mg lorazepam, and a pint of whiskey.
What I did was reckless as shit and it only led to me being blacked out making calls and sending texts to friends at 3 AM while my girlfriend (at time) was sleeping. Ended up not even getting out of bed and hit a few friends up and talked for a couple hours about drugs when this girl was anti-drugs to the max.

Ambien is damn fine for insomnia, but I always found Sonata (zaleplon) to be more recreational with far less potential to blackout.

>Sonata is more recreational IMHO
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Amphetatron - Sat, 09 Dec 2017 11:57:47 EST ID:snSDkNUx No.138472 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>138463

thread was made by me. nice to be back to this board, i remember always liking your posts a lot bruh, and that was interesting

personally i find it fantastic; i think it actually shines when you have a large supply and high tolerance. when i used to get 2 scripts for 10mg a night from my doc, pre manic episode, i could take them and go to class, and later work, and just be sorta wacky

it definitely is love/hate. i think it really just effects people vastly differently. it's top tier for me but i've never gotten the "i'm seeing little people running around" kind of shit, it's more like, being extremely happy, relaxed, and slightly confused

i've considered investing in some sonata. how would you compare it to zolpidem, subjectively? i'm interested in your opinion

pic related via made on ambien
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sun, 10 Dec 2017 14:45:25 EST ID:LNlHBoqv No.138492 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138472
Welcome back to the board, Amphetatron. It's always nice to have posters come back to /benz/.

Personally, even with a high tolerance to benzos/z-drugs at the time I never had any glowing experience with zolpidem. Again, it's just love/hate so I can't do much comparison but I can discuss my experiences with Sonata.

I love Sonata (zaleplon), but it isn't as helpful for sleep IMHO. All of the generics that I have come across are in capsule form so it's easy to pop them open and insufflate the contents if that's your thing. The first time that I had gotten fucked up on Sonata was an accident. I took a 10mg pill and tried to sleep. After 25-35 min. I couldn't sleep so I went out into my living room and got my bong. As soon as I exhaled the bong hit I immediately started having HEAVY dissociative effects akin to both MXE and nitrous oxide. The feelings lasted for a solid 30-45 minutes. After that I figured out that I could just take the pills with booze, benzos, and bud with similar effects. This quickly diminished. After a bit I could easy take 70mg-100mg + benzos + bud and have barely any effect. I stopped using the drug recreationally when a 30x10mg monthly RX lasted me two days. Neither days produced any profound effects or blackout.
The drug also has an extremely short duration of action.
I was off the drug and on various other z-drugs (Lunesta, Belsomra, etc.) this year, but now I'm back on 10mg zaleplon + 50mg trazodone for sleep PRN.
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Esther Biggleridge - Sun, 10 Dec 2017 23:48:43 EST ID:FeBB2ve1 No.138494 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138449
Did you screw that cookie onto something while benzed the fuck out?


Personal experiences with cinolazepam by Thomas Brittingfare - Thu, 30 Nov 2017 12:06:10 EST ID:kJMTywA/ No.138346 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Need info on cinolazepam: potency, dosage and ROA. Does anybody know if you can snort these suckers? stupid but I usually snort xanax for rapid onset in case of panick attacks, can you do that with these?
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Mon, 04 Dec 2017 19:36:38 EST ID:C/ohmXNh No.138402 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138401
I happened to find some russian papers that were translated (idk how much faith to put in these) but it is a strange drug with odd phamacodynamics. Since I can't verify its reliability, I'm not going to repeat it, but you can find anecdotal dosing regimes, and possibly more accurate ones if you know any eastern european/slavic dialect.

Worst case scenario titrate slowly.... still the odd GABA acting properties of this drug would make me a bit cautious.
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Theophrastus Werrywag - Mon, 04 Dec 2017 23:25:52 EST ID:xFLMNJDP No.138411 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138402
wow nice resources.

post inofeortmation on thiesses benzos plzz
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Tue, 05 Dec 2017 19:01:41 EST ID:C/ohmXNh No.138418 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138411
wut infermashun due u yuant Bomb?

You can access PbM right? I found a few sources today, and read a bit more today but it is still an obscure benzo.

Really, all I meant was that this drug sounds odd since it is allosterically interacting with the receptors of and potentiating Z- Clone sites like GABA subunit alpha-1. I imagine this would be why dysphoria has been mentioned in anecdotal reports.


Coincidently, I took the opportunity to ask someone in the field about it but didn't get much of a useful response.

It'd be neat to hear something about this other than its binding properties, I hope OP shares his exp.
nb.
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Charlotte Bricklewill - Sat, 09 Dec 2017 12:53:27 EST ID:LB7ZGTY9 No.138479 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>138401
The writing on the pack is Romanian, not Bulgarian, and Romanian language is of Latin origin, not Slavic. Also it says the company who makes and sells these pills is from Austria. As for the obscure benzodiazepine itself, I don't know anything about. I was hoping OP will come back with a report.

>>138346 OP, where you at?

I'm thinking he maybe doesn't even have the pills and was just creating a thread out of curiosity.

[Pic = cinolazepam's structure]
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Sat, 09 Dec 2017 12:59:56 EST ID:C/ohmXNh No.138480 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138479
I meant the main scientific lit I could find from my home comp was in Bulgarian haha, not his pic.

Good eye though, and I did know that Romanian is a Latin language, albeit does have proto-Slavic loan words.
nb


What's your favorite benzo? by Clara Bagglecocke - Wed, 06 Dec 2017 02:04:37 EST ID:tIqQmmcO No.138426 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Favorite benzo?

Mine is tied between lorazepam (ativan) and diclazepam
lorazepam is a lot less stupifying and sedating where diclazepam is very downy and long-lasting tends to leave me tired for like 12 hours after a dose.
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Brain - Wed, 06 Dec 2017 20:56:53 EST ID:hOmWV+4Y No.138439 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138426
Etiz is number 1 (i understand its a theno)
Clonazepam
diclazepam
lorazepam

I also can contest to dicalzepam leaving me tired long after the dose is physically effecting me.
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Ebenezer Grandville - Thu, 07 Dec 2017 23:14:24 EST ID:snSDkNUx No.138452 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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if zdrugs count ambient is my old delame first time with her in so long

otherwise

temazepam is the est
alprazolam is nice but too modish which is why temazepam wins

clonaozlma obvios bbest bt its our iv herion itstoo much fort its owgoodd

oxazepam can suck i ick hahah i hadsch high hopes

uhh man

fPAM i od fcki with its low-key dope
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Fri, 08 Dec 2017 00:23:21 EST ID:oufgpZT8 No.138454 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138439
>>138426
Yeah diclazepam's netabolites and duration make me think of it as the only rc that actually has therapeutic potential and little recreational. Seems like its profile would make it good for a taper.

Idk, alorazolam. Anything but lorazepam
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Dr. Katz - Fri, 08 Dec 2017 02:13:36 EST ID:LNlHBoqv No.138455 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138426
>Diazepam is king.
Another favorite is be clonazepam. However, I have done more than my fair share of alprazolam over the years. Etizolam is great for what it is, how easily accessible it is, etc. but the drug is too more-ish and apt to chronic re-dosing IME.
Lorazepam and diclazepam are in the same league - next to no "good feels" outside of moderate anxiety relief. While the anxiety relief lasts longer than alprazolam it is inferior for panic disorder. Lorazepam or diclazepam are better for GAD, social phobia, and agoraphobia but even then there are better benzos for these anxiety disorders.
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Amphetatron - Sat, 09 Dec 2017 12:13:57 EST ID:snSDkNUx No.138476 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>138452

i am embarrassed, sorry. ambien, i was an asshole, sorry, i was trying to respond and apparently forgot how to type (my keyboard has fucked up keys too)

it's hard to choose, so let me translate my post

to put it in some different terms ,i hope these make sense?

ambien is like my high school sweet heart, i'll never forget her and like i occasionally will look her up on Facebook and she helped shape my sexuality
temazepam is my college girlfriend that fucked like a motherfucking goddess, with a pussy of gold, funny smart fantastic and with an ass to kill for, but we grew apart. it was amicable but if we end up chilling we're gonna end up fucking
diazepam is a steady good friend. love the dude.
diclazepam is his younger brother, tries his best, it's sweet, and always there if you really need help and you're in a bind
alprazolam is overly morish but i fuck with it lightly, it's basically damien in the damien trilogy by DMX
oxazepam i wanted to love but eh sorry bruv
triazolam is hypothetically good but it sucks in reality imo
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Just had my first ever panic attacks by Doris Clellerspear - Sun, 26 Nov 2017 01:15:38 EST ID:Fug2rcKt No.138296 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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It was the worst shit in my life. 2nd most painful thing I've ever experienced. I really really wanted to not-exist. It was 3 hours of heart palpitations and irregularities.

I'm hoping the subsequent ones I have (if I have any more at all) are less severe now that I know what to expect.

If this happens to you regularly, you have my sympathies.

(Also hopefully the doc will finally give me Xanax)
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Fanny Bleshteck - Thu, 30 Nov 2017 17:38:27 EST ID:Qz2J90Dw No.138348 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>138329
Don't get hooked bro, so much shit you can enjoy in this world, travelling, women, family, once in a while it's OK to benz but take it easy
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Cyril Bankinspear - Sat, 02 Dec 2017 03:35:55 EST ID:BCzI4C3U No.138365 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138348
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Cornelius Huddlekack - Wed, 06 Dec 2017 10:49:58 EST ID:Z4W7aR9H No.138429 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138345
fuck
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Shit Croblingwadging - Thu, 07 Dec 2017 09:00:05 EST ID:SLCoRauV No.138443 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138348
Traveling is expensive and I've already seen most of where I can afford to see, I can't communicate with women in any manner other than professional due to my social awkwardness, and my family is barely existent. Benzos are my life :)

But that being said, I am an exception to the rule and one of the few people on this earth that really have nothing better to live for.
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Cedric Benningstone - Sat, 09 Dec 2017 10:22:24 EST ID:Fug2rcKt No.138468 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I haven't had any panic attacks since guys. Thank dog. Good luck to you all


New to Benzos by I - Thu, 07 Dec 2017 18:36:37 EST ID:QPsa2hao No.138446 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So after years of panic disorder, I finally got prescribed Ativan. It was a god send. Cured my panic. But I wanted to try a recreational dose a couple times. Got the pills 2 days ago. Did about 5mg each day. Now I want to use them therapeutically. Am I fucked? I got the fun out of My system and just want to use them as prescribed. 1-2mg a day. Thanks guys!
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Thu, 07 Dec 2017 20:12:02 EST ID:C/ohmXNh No.138448 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138446
No two day wont fuck your tolerance.. Benzos are insidious, you'll wake up in a year and realize your tolerance jumped and your dosages do nothing anymore. I've never had massive jumps in tolerancr throigh usage. Actually, even after taper my tolerance is still high enough there isnt much point in abusing them.
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Fri, 08 Dec 2017 00:17:10 EST ID:oufgpZT8 No.138453 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138448
Clarified, I never noticedmy tolerance build from using a high dose infrequently. Tolerance builds slow and takes a fair time to leave.
nb 40 hours no sleep so my writing is shitty.
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Dr. Katz - Fri, 08 Dec 2017 02:18:29 EST ID:LNlHBoqv No.138457 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138446
You didn't fuck your tolerance up but you may have altered your expectations of what a therapeutic dosage should feel like. Remember that it is imperative to use the minimum dosage necessary to relieve your anxiety symptoms. While 1-2mg may not feel as "good" as 5mg dosages it does not mean that these lower prescribed dosages are not helping.


snorting diazepam by Cyril Smallford - Sun, 01 Oct 2017 19:50:40 EST ID:ze1lfbr+ No.137426 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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can you snort valium.

the internet is being a bitch in giving a clear answer.
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Dr. Katz - Fri, 06 Oct 2017 02:17:39 EST ID:LNlHBoqv No.137525 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>137499
We're good, dude.

>>137502
Damn fine point, TinyTrip. Damn fine.

nb
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Eliza Bungersod - Sat, 28 Oct 2017 05:45:10 EST ID:V65fcRNn No.137860 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dude never, I repeat never snort any kind of benzo. I think theres literally like only one that actually has a higher availability nasally, but literally 99% of other benzos are best to take just as a normal pill
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Isabella Fammlesun - Thu, 07 Dec 2017 17:57:18 EST ID:z3a1351p No.138445 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Is that william t vollman? what the fuck
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Amphetatron - Sat, 09 Dec 2017 12:23:36 EST ID:snSDkNUx No.138478 Ignore Report Quick Reply
the end of this thread makes me fell warm inside

nb
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Matilda Blingerford - Tue, 12 Dec 2017 00:31:43 EST ID:bgbi6sos No.138511 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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made this mistake just last night

" hurr my friend gave me coke w, valium in it once so it must work"

easily half came out the next day wasted, it was gross
nb


How do you stay conscious by Frederick Dablingsadging - Mon, 04 Dec 2017 13:04:11 EST ID:kBVXtoWy No.138396 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How the hell do you guys not fall asleep on this stuff? I got a few valiums from a friend and I feel a slight wooziness before I inevitably drift off. Help me stay awake so I can actually enjoy this stuff, please.
Thanks.
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Mon, 04 Dec 2017 18:37:09 EST ID:C/ohmXNh No.138400 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138396
Your doaage is too high for your tolerance/pharmacokinetics

Lower the dosage if your sole goal is to stay awake, but that in no way implies you'll suddenly find this drug class enjoyable.

Unless you suffer from anxiety, or other niche scenarios, benzos are much more practical than recreational IMO.
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Hedda Henderpotch - Tue, 05 Dec 2017 03:44:06 EST ID:ftYu/l42 No.138412 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My guess as an infrequent/medicinal user is
  • Tolerance
  • Alcohol combo
  • Varying receptor affinities and hypnotic effects between compounds

IME the only benzodiazepine that demanded I lay the shit down and pass the cunt out was alprazolam. Excepting moderate-heavy doses of others.

My exp:
>Clonazepam
>Etizolam
>Alprazolam
>Oxazepam
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Dr. Katz - Tue, 05 Dec 2017 16:39:27 EST ID:LNlHBoqv No.138416 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138396
How don't we fall asleep?
-low dosages, tolerance to the hypnotic/sedative effects, only using as or less than prescribed, etc.
I don't advocate mixing drugs, but if tolerance is high enough to benzos that it is feasible to take multiple benzodiazepines at once even with a small amount of alcohol or an opiate without passing out. I find the combination of RX'd benzos and muscle relaxers to be much more sedating than benzodiazepines + alcohol.
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Fucking Cannernudging - Tue, 05 Dec 2017 20:09:32 EST ID:0YfQXS5G No.138421 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Probably has something to do with a lack of an actual anxiety disorder. Etizolam is a bit of an anti-depressant for me in that it removes the anxiety that causes me to be very unproductive and unmotivated. When I take the etizolam all I want to do is job search and do other productive stuff. I presume that this is how I stay up on benzos, because it finally gives me the energy to do things.
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Tue, 05 Dec 2017 21:47:11 EST ID:C/ohmXNh No.138424 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138421
>Probably has something to do with a lack of an actual anxiety disorder.
>implying lacking an anxiety disorder means you can't aluse benzos revreationally.

>I presume that this is how I stay up on benzos, because it finally gives me the energy to do things.

Do you really think taking a sedative is giving you energy?

You're taking a dosage which is removing excess anxiety and increasing your ability to function . If you took higher dosages you'd likely become inebriated and sedated.



nb.


Kpin Cravings by George Dubblechere - Mon, 04 Dec 2017 20:59:32 EST ID:i/AWXoJE No.138409 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How normal is it to still have these panic attacks and that intense need to take something like klonopin after having not taken it in a year? I took it as prescription but used it a lot more just for fun for a few years.

I thought it went away but it came back outta nowhere and I can't stop freaking out. Trying to smoke my weed I've been trying to replace it with but still this sucks hardcore. Is taking like another benzo even suitable to help it or will that just make it worse? I already gotta deal with constant panic attacks as is.
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Dr. Katz - Tue, 05 Dec 2017 16:21:44 EST ID:LNlHBoqv No.138414 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138409
Well, the fact that you were diagnosed with an anxiety disorder that necessitated a long-term benzodiazepine prescription means that you still have an anxiety disorder.
Benzos do not treat the disorder(s) that an individual is afflicted with, but can greatly help under doctor supervision alongside of psychotherapy.
There is a particular concept that I advise you to be aware of: the Kindling Effect. Look into it. In short, the kindling effect is the concept that once addicted to a substance that it is easier to become addicted in lesser time, with more severe side-effects, etc. than when you first were taking benzos.

Since it has been a full year since you have taken a benzo than I do not believe that one single usage would cause any sort of difficulties for your mental or physical health. Dealing with constant panic attacks is quite tricky as medical literature does not have much information on how to adequately deal with panic disorder.
You can take a benzo if you need to, but I would suggest talking with your healthcare provider (physical or mental health, your preference). Smoking weed can exacerbate anxiety in individuals that are already prone to anxiety and panic.
Meditation, breathing exercises, physical activity, eating healthy, and finding hobbies are great ways to avoid self-medicating. Replacing one drug with another (although weed is much, much less harmful than benzodiazepines) is usually not a positive alternative unless the drug you were taking was ruining your life and those around you.
>See a doctor. Sound mind/sound body. Don't replace one vice for another.


getting benzos in japan by Reuben Fillytitch - Sat, 02 Dec 2017 02:43:19 EST ID:LcS0ARFE No.138359 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Going to Japan for three months soon, anyone have any experience getting benzos legitimately/illegitimately?
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Dr. Katz - Sat, 02 Dec 2017 03:15:27 EST ID:LNlHBoqv No.138361 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>138359
There are some pretty obscure benzodiazepines that are available for RX in Japan, but they do not have OTC benzos (at least to my knowledge). Even nations with OTC benzos, Thailand for instance, have been cracking down on benzos.

Best advice for getting them legitimately? -if you have an outstanding RX in the U.S. or elsewhere that would be best. Otherwise, I would just say that you have panic attacks and that SSRIs/SNRIs do not help you.
I hate giving advise for illicit benzos, but being in a different country is a bit different. Let us know how it goes! Best of luck, OP.
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Reuben Fillytitch - Sat, 02 Dec 2017 03:22:27 EST ID:LcS0ARFE No.138362 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>138361
I have a script here but its to help with my suboxone taper, plus my doc knows I have ptsd and panic attacks. But the benzo script I have her is for the taper, and he can only give a two month script which will run out before I leave. Idk if that helps
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Ian Cammerhall - Mon, 04 Dec 2017 13:08:18 EST ID:C9Dx2GFC No.138397 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138362

After watching Enter The Void I know you don't want to use illegal drugs in Japan. I'd show a recent script to a Japanese doctor and tell him you ran out in travels and need more. I'm not sure how well that would work, but it might.
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Mon, 04 Dec 2017 18:13:11 EST ID:C/ohmXNh No.138398 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138359
Legitimately;
Show a prior existing prescription, but this will be heavily dependant on your ability to communicate with the physician. Personally, I've had to do this while travelling but the need was medically related so it was easy for both parties to agree to a rx.

if you want to really go all out, if you are currently prescribed benzodiazepines, prepare a doctors note detailing your condition and drugvregimeny, have it translated (professionally), and immediately seek out an English centric speaking hospital (they exist).

Not what I'd call legitimate.

East Asian countries where you could hypothetically by large amounts of whatever you want are next door. However, this has some obvious issues, primarily transporting narcotics. "Protip as long as quantity is in reason, and you have a prior rx for a particular benzo, buy that one, put in bottle on return trip. "

The lazier version of this is to take advantage of Japans weird scene and headshops/markets selling straight rcs. Downside, police sit outside many of these shops arresting people, unless you can blend into a crowd in Tokyo would guess picking the foreigner might make their day.

Also rcs like that are rolling dice at best, especually now that the package isn't (likely to be) legible to you.

The last legit route, which would be cold approaching the jap medical system presenting symptoms of anxiety that requires acute treatment.
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Mon, 04 Dec 2017 18:19:17 EST ID:C/ohmXNh No.138399 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138362
I've never been in that situation, and don't know to what extent the sub aspect would affect willingness to rx.

if they are aware that you have panic attacks, explain that you are going on an extended trip one month after your rx ends. Try and see if they are receptive to a minor amount prn, of something like lorazepam. You have warranted need, and if seizures aren't the concern, prn rx of short acting benzodiazepines isn't precisely unheard of.

my country seems super liberal on benz thougn compared to when I read UK and Murrica guidelines


Grapefruit juice by Frederick Cuckledale - Sun, 03 Dec 2017 11:39:24 EST ID:Av2eGJaC No.138377 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How much of a difference does it have on the effects of drugs like Xanax and Valium?

Does it make a difference whether it's normal or pink juice?
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Sun, 03 Dec 2017 11:50:40 EST ID:C/ohmXNh No.138379 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138377
It is significant, this is because it acts as an inhibitor of the CYP3A4 enzyme.

You want white grapefruit juice, it does matter.

Careful with potentiation, be safe.
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Edward Blunkingold - Sun, 03 Dec 2017 20:32:27 EST ID:Av2eGJaC No.138387 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138379
thanks tt, does it matter if the juice if pure or will your average "from concentrate" juice be fine?
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Dr. Katz - Sun, 03 Dec 2017 20:49:39 EST ID:LNlHBoqv No.138389 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138387
Get the 100% juice. I recommend Ocean Spray. It should be around $3.50 + tax per half gallon depending on your area.
Ocean Spray actually discontinued the 100% White Grapefruit Juice in favor of a 100% Grapefruit Blend. The blend is the best thing that you can get your hands on, but it is NOT the original 100% white.
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Edward Blunkingold - Sun, 03 Dec 2017 22:13:05 EST ID:Av2eGJaC No.138392 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138389
I'm actually in the EU so it shouldn't be a problem finding 100% juice.

Thanks for the help!
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Mon, 04 Dec 2017 19:39:14 EST ID:C/ohmXNh No.138403 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138387
Happy to help and you're fortunate, wgfj is hard to find in my area.

good luck, be safe and have fun.

I've only potentiated in that manner twice but the first time I was definitely not expecting the degree of potentiation I received.
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