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50mg etizolam by George Danderworth - Thu, 30 Mar 2017 20:30:01 EST ID:p3Y5bzHa No.134644 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Okay I'm going to start off by saying Im a dumb ass. I had the next two days off work and probably took around 500mg of 3fpm during the whole day and drank 3 5.5 beers. Me being all sorts of fucked i kinda got lazy because I didn't have much left it he 3fpm so grabbed the bag out of my stash that looked like 3fpm.

I ended up ingesting around 50mg of Etiz.. will I expect more then a 24 hour sleep fest? Already feeling kinda weird
George Danderworth - Thu, 30 Mar 2017 20:58:15 EST ID:p3Y5bzHa No.134645 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Boards pretty slow so I'll figure I'd update. Feeling mad out of it but I'm going to try to stay awake as long as possible. Most I've ever taken of etiz at once was 3mg 2 months ago.
George Danderworth - Fri, 31 Mar 2017 12:18:51 EST ID:p3Y5bzHa No.134652 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So about an hour I ended up going out for a short drive to get some McDonald's. it was weird after the initial rush I felt totally fine when I went out, other than the stims (obviously wasn't). Next thing i know I wake up in my bed with a draw or 2 sticking out. I grab a coffee and go out for a smoke and my rights car,hood/fender/bumper is dented pretty bad. Worst of all is I feel like a zombie now and I'm worried what I did. Last thing I remember was pulling out of my street...I fucked up.

Will report if I find out more
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Diseases from pills? by Hamilton Chinderway - Thu, 30 Mar 2017 19:47:28 EST ID:tKtVT9N3 No.134643 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hi guys. Didn't know where to post this, but since I'm talking about benzos, I thought this might be the right board.

I was at a party yesterday. I smoke weed and that's it. I'm not interested in anything else. A junkie dude walked in a noticed that I had some weed on me. He didn't have any money but asked for a trade. He offered me eight 2.0 mg clonazepam pills for one gram of bud. I have a friend who enjoys clonazepam, so I thought why not, I'll just give them to him. But I assumed that clonazepam pills came in a antiseptic, clean wrapping like most pills do. That was not the case. The junkie dude handed me a matchbox with eight pills split in half, which means that the guy had at least played around with the pills with his fingers. I don't think they come in pre-cut form.

Junkies can carry all kinds of fucking nasty diseases and this dude was pretty much a textbook example of a lowlife junkie. Back home I studied the pills under a light but didn't see anything strange or alarming: no blood, no smudges, no excess dirt. Still, I'm not so sure if I want to give these to my friend. Is it possible that he can catch something nasty by swallowing one of these pills?

Dr. Katz - Thu, 30 Mar 2017 22:38:03 EST ID:zHWAZA26 No.134647 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The pills don't come in halves when getting them from a pharmacy
It is theoretically possible that if the dude sneezed on them or handled them with dirty hands while ill.
If you're so sketched out now, why did you even make the trade in the first place? 8x2mg clonazepam is a pretty solid trade for a gram of bud. You could easily flip the pills for $2-$3 without anyone questioning you.
Hugh Hishfield - Fri, 31 Mar 2017 02:05:45 EST ID:IP+BezRZ No.134649 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I get my own prescriptions, asprin etc, and try to keep the bottle, pills, sterile as possible. I drop a pill on the floor, asprin etc, as clean as it may be. I will not put it back in the bottle with the other pills, just because it was out of it's original sterile environment and on a different surface.

Should be no issues but not quite sterile as could have been.

Alazrapam by Walter Blathershit - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 21:03:42 EST ID:7NC44+gb No.134414 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I've lurked here; posted a few times looking for advice and have always gotten quality and useful feedback.. so anyways today I picked up 50x 2mg bars. I have anxiety and problems with my GI tract and the benzos really seem to help with both..

my usual does is 1mg per day (take for therapeutic reasons rather than for recreational high). Sometimes I split the dose and take .5 in the morning and .5 in the evening.

My question is- what would be a good regimen for the 50 bars? Ensuring when I start to run low; I can safely taper without too much discomfort? Any insight is appreciated
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Walter Blathershit - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 12:15:11 EST ID:7NC44+gb No.134430 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I take your warnings seriously... I have been prescribed various benzos in the past years and unfortunately I think I have experienced the kindling effect first hand years ago... I actually plan on bringing this up with my new general practitioner (I recently moved from North Dakota where there is a very low standard of care and any controlled substances are severely looked down upon) and after explaining my situation, ask if she will prescribe valium.

I'm going to be straightforward and explain that they are helping me in this time of uncertainty while trying to figure out whats wring with my guts. I mentioned that I took benzos in the past- but it has been five years since I took them with any regularity.. when I entered my twenties I got off of them and only went back when I started having the GI problems. I get anxious because I dont know whats wrong with me and I feel helpless like my gut problems will never go away and it drives me to panic ;__;
Augustus Clellerhood - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 12:30:02 EST ID:ddzdPFTH No.134431 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I took prilosec for years. started when I was about 16 taking it only when I needed to (once a month to once a week?) then in college I started having to take them every day, and around age 21 I realized I needed to get something stronger when it took 2 prilosec to keep the acid at bay. I'm 24 now and have been taking 60mg lansoprazole for a couple years. I've never heard the word motility until now and I think mine is fine. but I do know that when I tried getting off of PPIs, I couldn't even drink a glass of water without suffering from hell-sent heart burn and I also threw up quite often, especially after meals and drinking alcohol. so I've since given up on that and gone back to the PPIs and mostly given up alcohol and other heart burn triggers.

it's funny how a bar can almost instantly solve almost any stomach-related issues I'm having, including a serious case of heart burn, enlarged stomach, etc. you'd think this would point to these issues being directly related to stress/anxiety but my symptoms don't seem to follow the same pattern (I don't necessarily get heart burn when I'm stressed and often when I do get heart burn I'm very much not stressed in other aspects of life).
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 00:32:42 EST ID:3gvCI+xA No.134481 Ignore Report Quick Reply
$20 says if they're street batr they're all pressed.

Not the end of the world just be conservative. Check for xanax bitterness under the tongue. If it doesn't taste like rimming a freshman sand volleyball girl with the 6/10 body, it's fake or bunk or another benzo or whatever. E.g. etizolam is tasteless.
Matilda Sumblestut - Thu, 30 Mar 2017 13:59:57 EST ID:B5uEyEur No.134641 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not op but have serious GERD as well. It fucking sucks but honestly prilosec just makes it worse for me. Zantac helps and xanax is a godsend when it gets too bad. It fucking sucks that I can't really explain it to anyone without them thinking I'm just making this shit up but it seriously hurts anytime I eat.
Matilda Sumblestut - Thu, 30 Mar 2017 14:02:15 EST ID:B5uEyEur No.134642 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Have Gerd as well and it kinda feels like the anxiety just makes the heartburn and bloating worse which makes the anxiety worse which makes the heartburn worse ad nauseam. Taking a bar when it gets really bad is pretty much the only thing that works now but I don't wanna start using it daily

what do by Archie Hirryford - Wed, 11 Jan 2017 09:33:47 EST ID:c+Y9z8IQ No.133324 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I have 10mg clonazepam and half a handle of vodka.
What amounts should be used if I intend to become inebriated without blacking out?
Consider little to no tolerance for benzos and medium tolerance for alcohol.
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Dr. Katz - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 00:28:26 EST ID:lixxb35S No.133521 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not prescription, no. I've never heard of any country having more than a 2mg clonazepam dosage per pill. The only oddball pill that has a different dosage out of the U.S. that I can think of is Ativan (lorazepam). They make 2.5mg pharma lorazepam in Europe.
A 5mg clonazepam sounds like a home-press or if it is being manufactured, boxed, etc. then a well done counterfeit.
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 12:35:26 EST ID:baWA5M8l No.134569 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>never bought from a strapped dealer

Damn. Wait until you go to buy weed and its a living room completely empty of furniture and just a foldy $10 metal chair with a middle aged Mexican sitting on it holding a shotgun while the doorman lets you in.

Then some schmuck who was told to wait their turn in their car gets ansy for Coke or God knows what and decides to tap on the windows. The Mexican stands up and swings his long arm around while I dipped left past a door frame to another room and unholstered my pocket .380 expecting a robbery or God knows what.

Now I get mine from a soccer mom ^_^

>to OP

I always go therapeutic dose with one rec dose with the other. Moderate+moderate doses is how you can die in theory.
Frederick Nemmerfoot - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 18:57:20 EST ID:sOsG4Lj1 No.134603 Ignore Report Quick Reply
But from dankweb. Easier.
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Wed, 29 Mar 2017 15:04:38 EST ID:baWA5M8l No.134629 Ignore Report Quick Reply
But not always better. For 80-90% of people sure. But the dark Web can't beat $600 QPs and $300double zips of named INDOOR medical strains that I get to see growing before my eyes. Also there's no selective scamming like DNM, no fear of violence or raids (legal grow just illegal to sell to me, but I visit with a card holder so it's plausible deniabiity until I'm solo on the road. And it's always me driving away with vac seals I KNOW were prepared correctly. No seizure letters from China that get me put on a list.

Certain drugs are best purchased on the DNM. Others not so much. I would say real opi pills/certain benzos/weed especially aren't the best DNM products. Want to get a sheet of acid for $250 instead of $500+? Indoor cubes for super cheap like $100-150/oz? Then yeah you want a DNM. But two months ago I picked up 1zip of good cubes for $140. Those deals do exist it's just all about who you know.

Don't know anyone or just moved somewhere? Then yeah you're probably months or years away from enough networking to get you a $150-200oz of fire bud. I paid $285 for outdoor B grade for nearly 2 years no price breaks and feel like an idiot still today. We used to pay $90-100 for a "quarter" in high school that was almost always 5-6g. Usually 6g. We were dumb and had no scales back then and still had to utilize two connections to get that 90-100 short quarter. Everything is relative. A dub sack on my ghetto street is still only around 0.9-1.3g depending on quality. That's $15-22/g. And people obviously pay it, not just rich clueless kids either, as I'm their only white customer I've ever seen (I rarely use them apart from absolute emergencies where I need a dub sack like twice a year because I'm dry or haven't picked up yet).

Hannah Lightridge - Wed, 29 Mar 2017 18:22:52 EST ID:p6US6ix7 No.134633 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I live in England in quite a boring area. So to avoid hook ups and travel to big cities dank web is better

Plugging Alprazolam by Nathaniel Drirringridge - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 16:45:13 EST ID:m/8Hrumu No.134340 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Anyone ever plug their Xanax? Is it worth it?
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Caroline Crarrydock - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 22:40:35 EST ID:pIYDhj3N No.134345 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It is very much dependent on the drug itself though and it's water solubility and lipophilicity. They do have diazepam suppositories though I think that's mixed with PGP. If you can spare the alprazolam OP then do it for science.
Jack Grimforth - Sat, 11 Mar 2017 02:17:59 EST ID:4MMs9J9B No.134346 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Few things are worth putting in your but. Surely one could crush the stuff, mix with
grape or whatever juice, put in mouth. Surely we have enough to simply take the pills, no big deal.
Emma Suddleshaw - Sat, 11 Mar 2017 07:00:03 EST ID:xruX87Gw No.134347 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No, some really are. You dissolve the stuff in water, don't just shove pills up there. For some drugs it more than doubles BA and provides a rush second only to IV. Benzos probably not worth it though
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Wed, 29 Mar 2017 16:25:22 EST ID:baWA5M8l No.134632 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>few things are worth plugging


You mean adderall, midazolam, ethylphenidate, morphine, oxymorphone, debatable hydrocodone/oxycodone (eh about equal to oral), #4 heroin if you don't IV, hydromorphone if your nose is too fucked to snort and you don't IV, triazolam arguably, and some of the z-drugs? Tons more I'm probably forgetting like not even including disso's entirely?

You really have zero clue what you're talking about whatsoever. It's not just eating snorting and IVing drugs. Just because you might get a benzo script that you pay 90% less than market price for, your DOC happens to have high oral bioavailability, you have too much money and drug availability to care, or some combination of the three, doesn't mean that every other drug on the planet should never "resort" to being plugged.

Be a bit more open minded. With my opi dependence I can't use plugging as a reliable RoA any more. I can't even recall the last time I plugged a drug, it was probably a sterilized PST extract under 15ml like 6 months ago, but it can be a fantastic way to get high. Imagine plugging a dissolved morphine tablet and getting 2.5-3x as high or higher compared to if you had just eaten it. Similar story with Opana if you don't IV. Same with adderall it's like 2x as strong if it's instant release compared to oral.
Shitting Chucklemotch - Wed, 29 Mar 2017 21:52:07 EST ID:INnlSvg6 No.134635 Ignore Report Quick Reply
can you believe it some people would rather not shove drugs up their butt?

Low dose, low freq, moderate period Etizolam use by Aubbaris - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 20:57:51 EST ID:IxfWRFRx No.134577 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey guys,

Quick question to (hopefully) ease my mine.

I have been using 2-4mg Etizest once every seven days. The dose is broken up throught out the day (usually 1.5g morn, 1.5g evening or so) and then I wait seven days to use again. This has been my regimine for the past four months. There are two times I can remember taking it twice in one week but the majority has been on this seven day cooldown.

My question is if it is safe to quit this CT. I know the dosage and freq are low, my only reserve is the 4 month period it's been going on.

My other thought is to just keep the one week schedule and drop a mg off per week until zero.

Any advice appreciated
Aubbaris - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 20:59:41 EST ID:IxfWRFRx No.134578 Ignore Report Quick Reply

*mg, not grams
Dr. Katz - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 21:03:23 EST ID:fxIkwqoW No.134579 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You know your body best.
If you're already dosing at 1x/week without any noticeable withdrawal symptoms leading up to your next dose, then you're probably fine. You could drop by 1mg/week, it doesn't sound necessary, but it wouldn't hurt either.

You can never be too safe when coming off of benzos.

Tapering is more so for long-term daily users.
TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 00:11:34 EST ID:vo38VrHV No.134581 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'd ASSUME so, but it's actually an interesting question.

I believe you'd need to be dosing much more frequently (hence why daily usage regardless of dosage can lead to wds), but the fact that your period of time is relatively long and frequency has remained consistent qould be my only concerns.

I'd assume you could CT as you only dose once every seven days, and the half life of etiz would imply that your body would begin to go into WD between dosage.
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Thanks for the replies

So far no noticeable benzo wd between doses, although a little hard to tell. I started using Etiz during a month long kratom taper (which ultimately failed after being a couple weeks clean). So now I am in the middle of another kratom taper and wd symptoms are present but are all typical of kratom wd and very mild thanks to the taper (runny eyes/nose in the mornings, anxious when it's near dose time, spotty sleep). I guess the Etiz could be exacerbating this but I haven't noticed anything outside of typical kratom wd (this will be my 5th kratom quit so I'm quite familiar with it's symptoms).

I guess for peace of mind I'll go ahead and knock off 1mg (or even .5mg) each coming week until I'm at 0. Then wait a while before using Etiz again. How long would be good for a washout? 1 month? 2 months?
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Wed, 29 Mar 2017 15:51:26 EST ID:baWA5M8l No.134631 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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A solid month without getting drunk or benz'd whatsoever (no drinking if you can help it I guess) is a good start. I would say anything less than 3-4 weeks is pretty much a joke.

Since you like kratom don't forget that kava kava root is basically benzos version of kratom. It's a mild version of xanax sort of like how kratom is a mild version of tramadol/hydrocodone. You could always use that a little more frequently than your etizolam with much less negative impact.

Try to wait one whole month instead of 2 months, but instead of going back to once weekly dosing right away, try to do like dosing every other week or perhaps every 10 days/3x per month skipping at least one weekend. This may be more fruitful in the end as opposed to 2 month cool down and then going back to weekly and fucking your tolerance (relatively speaking) in like 6 weeks.

But honestly you're doing great. Just know that you're pretty much right on the edge of dependence-related use when it comes to opi or benz. You're golden but two steps away from a problem in a year or two.

Weekly isn't bad but the moment it turns into 2x weekly or every 3.5 days you will start to get big boy cravings and you'll get actual tolerance increase quickly. But everythings relative. I only use 0.6-2.4mg etizolam once every few days now like 3mg per week max. I don't really WD from benzos anymore apart from insomnia.

Whereas 5mg daily for a few months+PST use was a horrible detox.

>you could also swap out your etizolam usage with another low-risk drug damage wise, and alternate the two drugs so you do them both twice per month for a total of 4 highs (weekly). Just being honest low dose PST from say SN is a good candidate if you've got a will of steel. Tramadol isn't a bad idea, or possibly codeine/DHC if it's OTC in your country. Possibly like one fat 0.2g bowl of Marijuana twice per dosage day depending on testing fears.
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town crack head by Cedric Fevingfoot - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 21:38:02 EST ID:/hRIW8YV No.134564 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What is your opinion on Black lives matter?
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 01:29:10 EST ID:vo38VrHV No.134586 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also thinking about it Katz,

As a white, educated, early twenty year old, I think any white priveledge is set off by having MDD.

Only illness in which you can involuntarily lose civil and legal rights due to human error, and only field of medicine that can't that use the scientific method and subjects everyine from teenagers to the elderly to potent, poorly understood medications. (particularily neuroleptics)
Dr. Katz - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 22:41:45 EST ID:mnn588k7 No.134614 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Man, too many people that I know actually want to live in an egalitarian society...
I'd be lying if I said I didn't feel some sense of disgust towards those people.

Major Depressive Disorder, correct?
Sophie Pemmleson - Tue, 28 Mar 2017 13:36:42 EST ID:cVx5e3SD No.134616 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What about Blue lives matter?
Lydia Greenstone - Wed, 29 Mar 2017 13:44:42 EST ID:II3Qyc0o No.134626 Ignore Report Quick Reply
what about this is /benz/ related?
Graham Greenshaw - Thu, 30 Mar 2017 21:36:55 EST ID:qMj7OCOb No.134646 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Every drug board has been getting these shitposts recently
/pol/ is leaking nb

PLAY OVERWATCH WITH ME by Sophie Brittingtare - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 18:37:32 EST ID:aFcY+fw2 No.134598 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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.5mg of cLam, gonna take another .5 tonight.

anyone here play overwatch on PS4? if so add me psn: soccerbabe95 (im a dude lol)
Sophie Brittingtare - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 18:38:47 EST ID:aFcY+fw2 No.134599 Ignore Report Quick Reply
SHIT this was supposed to go in the BWB. sorry, mods feel free to delete this

What do you mention to a doctor to get benzos, beta blockers, or even therapist recommendation? by Eugene Worthingford - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 20:04:58 EST ID:cPzvstN8 No.134493 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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And how do you even make the appointment? I can't even say hello to someone without going into a panic anymore. Maybe it's part of working in solitude for the past year, or not having alcohol as a crutch anymore, perhaps even a series of severe panic attacks breaking me down.

I'm thinking of getting drunk, having dab and walking to the walk in and see where it goes from there. But even then I don't know.

Fuckk. I can't even have sex anymore. I'm pretty fucking broken.
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Albert Bunstone - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 12:59:12 EST ID:cPzvstN8 No.134592 Ignore Report Quick Reply
First I just got to smack the pussy out of me and set the appointment. Apparently you can do it all online now. So just got ot find an open date.
TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 17:12:17 EST ID:9BCcSDoL No.134594 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Good man, with anxiety even baby stepa like that can be hard. Keep on pushing to makwe your quality of life improve.
Dextrolord - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 17:59:44 EST ID:mmnM7dPE No.134595 Ignore Report Quick Reply
whats up with who mods this board?? I posted in this thread yessterday with my 2 cents and now its gone like wtf y

anyways yo tell ur psych, find a better one if u gotta, that u cant even make appointments etc without paniciing was just about that easy for me
Dextrolord - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 18:01:03 EST ID:mmnM7dPE No.134596 Ignore Report Quick Reply
my bad Im guessing my pc fucked up somehow now both my posts show my bad nb
TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 18:56:32 EST ID:9BCcSDoL No.134602 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Its OK you can post while bwnzd here

No-W/D Etizolam Usage by Oliver Giddlechatch - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 05:12:42 EST ID:OTEJQXfO No.134528 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I don't have experience with long-term benzo-use/addiction, but have been through physical opiate and alcohol withdrawals, and would very much like to avoid learning what benzo withdrawals feel like. I take etizolam, for sleep, anxiety and recreation. I took it basically daily last week and have stopped, and haven't experience any negative effects. I will try to use it as infrequently as possible, but in general, how long can I go using etiz daily before withdrawals become an issue?

TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 14:34:16 EST ID:vo38VrHV No.134541 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Roughly two weeks of daily usage is the point commonly referred to, but this will obviously differ based upon individual body chemistry and situational factors.

If you truly wish to avoid finding out how benzo wds feel (I'm currently feeling them after self tapering) use as INFREQUENTLY as possible for the SHORTEST duration as possible.

With this class of drugs duration and frequency of usage are key, if you want or feel the need to use daily I'd keep clear.
Polly Hummermutch - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 11:21:36 EST ID:v6PJQ+77 No.134554 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It takes numerous weeks to get WDs. Not one or two weeks of usage unless you're taking high doses.

Cut it down to once or twice a week at a low dose and you'll be gucci
TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 19:36:23 EST ID:vo38VrHV No.134562 Ignore Report Quick Reply
People can qnd have gad documented wd symptoms after two weeks, I'm sure they are the outliers, but thwy shouldn'tbe written off none the less

But youre right in the sense that it's unlikely.
Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 19:47:46 EST ID:sARvvzkH No.134563 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Your dog avatarfagging is fucking amazing. Please continue.

t. guy with opiate buzz right now that's loving life
Aubbaris - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 20:18:52 EST ID:IxfWRFRx No.134576 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I've got a question on this as well if anyone could lend some insight.

I have been using etiz one day per week at 2-4mg. I then wait seven days and then do the same. I've been on this schedule for 4 months now with no issues. There may have been a couple weeks I did it twice in one week but they were a rarity an always days between. Would I be ok to stop CT? I know doses are somewhat low and infrequent but still freaked a bit. My other thought was to keep the one week schedule and just drop a gram off each week until zero.

Any adive appreciated /benz

PAWS by Albert Chonningdock - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 18:51:40 EST ID:aVswpANP No.134575 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hi. I have PAWS from benzo abuse. I was blacked out for days, etc. and made the decision to stop. I've been off benzos for 6 months. Went completely sober for 2 months or so. I'm secretly on kratom now, which helps me be functional and feel normal. I don't abuse it, I just feel like it wires my brain to feel normal but I don't find any recreation from it, which is fine by me! By "normal" I mean, I can feel at peace with life instead of feeling depressed and lethargic and cranky (I wasn't a cranky person until after drug abuse).

However, I don't know if I want to do kratom all the time. I can stop for a day or two and feel normal, which makes me think it has health benefits. But when I stop for longer than that, I feel the PAWS. I'm sure the kratom isn't helping, but I'm guessing it's mostly from the benzos. Either way, I'm mostly not functional when I'm sober. I don't really want to go back on benzos, or anti-depressants.

What are some good ways to feel normal? I was even in Hawaii without kratom (for a week), and even though it was obviously beautiful, I still couldn't enjoy it as much. As soon as I got home I tried some kratom, and felt normal and happy again. WTF. I hate being this way. It's sorta triggering and makes me want to take drugs again. I don't have health insurance or any extra money.

I eat healthy, get moderate exercise, and I'm into healing herbs, but nothing has made me feel that normal. So my question is.... what's one effective way to help my brain? :( Anything that you guys have tried?

Also, I feel like if I get good suggestions, I would honestly try some of them yourself too even if you are still on benzos, just please do something preventative, do something to help your brain. No matter how spiritual or "happy" your life circumstances might be, PAWS is a real thing and I haven't found a natural way (except for kratom) to feel normal because you can't really fight the chemical imbalance. It sucks.

When benzing goes left by Phyllis Brinkinmon - Wed, 28 Dec 2016 16:37:42 EST ID:2zZUZKZP No.133109 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm sure many of us here have had multiple experience where we'v dosed way too much of benzos and had either blackouts, did some really stupid shit that you regret the next morning, or possibly worse.

Figured we could share stories about when benz'ing went wrong. The worst i've ever did is take about 10mg clonazepam, 8mg xanax, drank whiskey, ended up flicking off police cars as my we passed them on the way home while my girlfriend tried to take me home. The cops ended up tailing us for a long time, most likely reading her plates looking for warrants or any reason to pull us over because i pissed em off. Then i proceeded to come home, get very violent, ended up outside in my backyard (i live in a subdivision with a sheriff across the street from me to make things worse) and started screaming all kinds of obscenities screaming "FUCK YOU ALL FUCK EVERYBODY" then i grabbed a metal chair, and threw it as hard as I could over my back fence and it landed on my neighbors roof hard as fuck, slid down and broke some of their pottery on their front porch. Then came back into my room and just started breaking shit in my bedroom. I said so many horrible things to my girlfriend and family and i felt like a complete piece of shit the next day when I woke up..

Benzos are great... But just in moderation.. And I learned the hard way to not mix hard liquor with the two.

I just thank god I didn't get arrested and somehow still have a clean record, benzos have caused me to almost get fucked over by the law countless times when I was younger. Thankfully that time of my life is over.

But I'd be interested to hear any similar stories from you guys.
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Dr. Katz - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 13:44:24 EST ID:lixxb35S No.133656 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Don't feel the need to justify anything.
People like that will get help when they want/seek help. I would have done the same thing and gotten the hell out of that situation. There are a lot of people who are legitimately "good" people, but have extreme disorders and problems that lead to less than desirable behaviors. As you said, it's toxic. They will pull you down with them.

Then there's the entire discuss of what is truly "good" and "bad/evil," if they even exist. Personal views aside, hmmm.

nb - I'm about to start ranting even more so than I already am.
Priscilla Gemmershaw - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 16:27:56 EST ID:paeA0zak No.133660 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>released on recognizance somehow, go back home

My fucking sides HOW
Priscilla Gemmershaw - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 16:40:33 EST ID:paeA0zak No.133661 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Honestly if you haven't had to talk to the cops at least once for this by age like thirty I'd be amazed. Throw in Z drugs to the benz/booze cocktail and there you go. But yes the meth surely didn't help matters.
Aubbaris - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 21:50:14 EST ID:IxfWRFRx No.134565 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I'll go.

Early evening snort bar of xanax with buddies, smoke a bowl. Head to bars for some beers and eat another bar. Skip to later around 1:30a already drove myself home, chillin watching tv. Get munchies real bad. Still fucked up from bars. Figure I was gtg though (delusion of sobriety) to Burger King since I hadn't had a beer in several hours. Get chicken fries and a coke. On way back hit a parked car in my parking lot. Literally like 5 spaces away from my flat. Some bitch I don't know runs outta her apartment "I called the cops!".

Fucked up thing is its my friend Audreys bf's car I hit and we woulda settled it with insurance. Cops come and I fail feild sobriety test. Pass breathalyzer at the station - just under the legal limit for alcohol. They know I'm on something though so hit me with a DWI. Passout in cell and wake up the next morning like wtf. Sister comes and bails me out.

Mandatory counseling, meetings, and about 1500.00 in legal fees. Sux man
Sidney Serringforth - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 22:51:07 EST ID:ivuCOnhw No.134566 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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get a haircut you filthy profligate

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