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benzos fot PTSD by John Fommleshaw - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 13:04:13 EST ID:K4O0k46w No.137272 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Doctor keeps offering me SSRIs but it's only for night time that I get tremors. He's put me on 1mg lorazepam (I don't take these) and 0.5mg alprazolam which I take only in the afternoon. I told him this makes me feel like shit in the morning so he's gave me loprazolam 2mg at night.

What am I doing wrong, /benz/?
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Molly Clellerchire - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 13:27:20 EST ID:K4O0k46w No.137293 Ignore Report Quick Reply
But it's the only thing that works
In any case, I guess I have to do some sober techniques, then. I don't want to take hecking SSNRIs or whatever. Can I cycle benadryl and alcohol or is that kind like benzos?
Dr. Katz - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 18:51:45 EST ID:LNlHBoqv No.137296 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Alcohol acts on the same receptors that benzodiazepines do (GABA-A).
The best means of counseling would likely be CBT and exposure-based treatments to deal with situations that lead to an uptick in PTSD-related issues (panic, general anxiety, insomnia, etc.). I understand that you said you're taking benzos at night though. Z-Drugs (Ambien, Sonata, and Lunesta) also act on GABA-A, like benzos and alcohol, but bind a bit differently.
Studies have indicated that MDMA (ecstasy) DO help with long-term PTSD symptoms. However, as you know, these are clinical trials as the drug is still illegal. I cannot advocate for illicit drug use, but this is the harsh reality. The drugs that your doctors are giving you can help, but will not help with long-term usage (especially daily consumption due to tolerance, rebound anxiety, and new types/worsening of anxiety).
Honestly, exposure therapy + benzos + CBT + my own studies in undergrad and grad school in psychology have greatly helped issues that I had with HPPD, but I still had underlying social phobia (social anxiety disorder), panic attacks, and generalized anxiety disorder. Hence, I still take benzos 2-3x/week usually.
Molly Clellerchire - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 19:13:42 EST ID:K4O0k46w No.137297 Ignore Report Quick Reply
le sigh
i guess i gotta go talk to my psych and see what they say and what they do. cbt and exposure is alright but pretty difficult with the kinda ptsd i have. plus i don't really want to go talk to people in a circle that keep on saying the exact same thing.

etizolam is gaba-b so i guess i could cycle etizolam with a few benzos every 2-4 days. is alcohol actually really gaba-a? what about bariburates or ketamine?
James Fendlespear - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 22:23:18 EST ID:K4DwwT9K No.137299 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't think you're right about etizolam binding to GABA-B, at least not exclusively. It definitely has cross tolerance with benzos.
Now phenibut, baclofen, gabapentin, pregabalin - you might get away with alternating with benzos. Cross tolerance between those drugs and benzos is less clear, though may still exist. They are all also dependence forming of course...
James Fendlespear - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 22:24:02 EST ID:K4DwwT9K No.137300 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Is what I was trying to bold text there.

Etizolam Clonazolam by Shit Blytheshit - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 10:23:39 EST ID:2YB1ONmQ No.137007 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So are these useful at all for anti anxiety?

Read up on Etizolam, heard it actually has uses.

Read up on Clonazolam, heard it is the devil.

Both are the only ones relevant to me because they will be mine soon.

Not familiar with benzos at all, but am familiar with chemistry, and a number of other drugs. Just had a few inopportune panic attacks fro my job and was looking for something that will relax me but allow me to function.
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Brain - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 13:50:45 EST ID:hOmWV+4Y No.137275 Ignore Report Quick Reply

> Fuck your judgement. You don't know shit. Don't pretend like you're above me, "Cause i dun hav no drinks."

Guy comes to /benz/ looking for advice and tells people to fuck their advice/judgements
Jarvis Becklewill - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 17:38:04 EST ID:eIrXviHh No.137278 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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WHEW LAD what a fucking ride this thread is

OP have fun fucking up your life with a shitty gf to boot

Keep us posted
TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 20:17:35 EST ID:8+FfCjhh No.137280 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>most successful troll I've seen on /benz/
Nicholas Gippershit - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 23:30:41 EST ID:K4DwwT9K No.137282 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>I don't drink on benzos
>I do happen to drink at the end of the night\

>So I waked to CVS to grab some nicotine pills. Walked back but stopped by a bar along the way
>stopped by a bar along the way

This has got to be a troll. Playing the long game on this one, son.
Betsy Fapperville - Sat, 23 Sep 2017 03:09:48 EST ID:VscRO/ze No.137287 Ignore Report Quick Reply

gotdammit dude stop using any and all drugs/benzos/alcohol, at least take off some months and get your career together

cumming from a drunk fuckup; srsly this is upsetting me

Personal favourites by Jenny Puffingnore - Fri, 15 Sep 2017 17:20:43 EST ID:cLC6U6ly No.137142 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I've used a decent amount of different benzos in my time, though I'm sure there's many on here who've done more. I just wanted to see what everyone feels is their favourite.

Temazepam gets a lot of flack on here, but if you use enough and manage to stay awake I feel absolute and completely at peace with the world. Very underrated benzo I feel.
Xanax is the absolute best for anxiety and for when you go on a binge. Euphoria.
Diazepam is just amazing. Lasts longer, gets me super calm and makes my social anxiety vanish in a flash. Allows me to socialise and actually strike up conversations with friends, colleagues and strangers.

Basically, different benzos for different needs. Just wanted to give a shout-out to my love, Temazepam.
So what's your fav benzo and why?
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Archie Shittingspear - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 10:49:34 EST ID:pO3FM+tO No.137211 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Diazepam is what I get, For me it's an evening one or if I take it in the day It cant be a heavy dose or my body goes to sleep and gets jelly like. I love going for a short walk, popping a 5mg diazepam, getting home just as it hits and slumping in my recliner with a sick movie or show. Man I am excited for the weekend, It's been about 2 months since I had one.
John Hannerlidge - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 14:52:20 EST ID:p7BKJkOb No.137214 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>1. Xanax
>2. Klonopin
>3. Temazepam
>4. Valium

I do want to try etiz and diclaz and see what they are all about. I know etiz is most similar to xanax so I might have to give it a go...
Nigel Mongerstatch - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 20:21:27 EST ID:i09u2z38 No.137224 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Xanax is great for my anxiety but no benzo gets me higher than klonopin. Xanax can be euphoric for sure but it's not even close to klonopin for me. Klonopin is pure giggling euphoria and SLAYER.

Of the others I've tried, c-lam is dangerous and way too potent. I've actually gotten panic attacks from taken c-lam and it's way too easy to black out. Etiz is a good non-euphoric 'legal' anxiety solution.
CrypTamine - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 17:03:28 EST ID:r9Mo32IZ No.137256 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Temazepam is absolute favorite... i guess because of it's hypnotic effect
on the blackmarket you never know what's inside. i think lorazam and etizolam is best for anxiety but dangerous when taking 5 pcs / mg or more.. lots of ppl wake up in hospital after doing strange things... might be the china antagonist stuff and maybe the reason it isn't prescripted
Dr. Katz - Fri, 22 Sep 2017 00:32:29 EST ID:LNlHBoqv No.137267 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Diazepam has been a long-term favorite, so obtaining a script roughly one year ago was a major step for my anxiety treatment. Clonazepam is a great benzo, but a lot of people don't seem to understand its use or "high" because it isn't Xanax.
Etizolam is very enjoyable, but barely lasts an hour for me. Diclazepam is a great benzo for GAD and for combo'ing with other benzos.
Alprazolam is what it is... it is GREAT for panic, but the rebound anxiety is too much most of the time. Lorazepam is pretty much shit. The drug is great at first, but the semi-acute withdrawal that I had and months of nausea after discontinuation are NOT worth it.
I've also tried a few barbs... phenobarbital, heptabarbital, and butalbital. None of these really "wow'd" me, but pheno and butal were great with benzo combos. I don't recommend this out of safety, but I was fine (annecdotal!! not safe for most).
Midazolam, triazolam, and temazepam are still on my list of RX benzos to try. I'm not really into the RC scene, but flubromazepam is interesting. Clonazolam and flubromazolam can fuck off.

First time xanax by Henry Duckleberk - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 18:07:23 EST ID:UZtGN/bY No.137181 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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About to take xanax for the first time. Not going crazy just having a third of a bar (unknown potency), wait 2 hours and see whats up. Im currently on venlafaxine for major depression and anxiety, i wont be intoxicated with any other substances. I know this is a slippery slope to say the least, im definately inclined towards downers and im hoping just to experience some of that peaceful mental space, while still being functional. Ive only ever been into smoking weed and drinking.

Advice? What to expect?
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 23:12:27 EST ID:8Q1aoe1K No.137186 Ignore Report Quick Reply

don't smoke weed or drink on it your first few times at least.

you just feel chill as fuck, no fucks given + physically relaxed

I'll take some etizolam now actually

enjoy OP
SpeedDreamin' - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 00:07:47 EST ID:6nQLmNOE No.137204 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>I know this is a slippery slope to say the least, im definately inclined towards downers and...

Let go of this anxiety. Preoccupation with such anxieties can draw one into precisely the territory they fear. Like when you drive or ambulate, your body has a tendency to follow where your head is pointed. Think of this as having your head pointed towards an imprisoning pit of sand, but as you devote your attention to its threat it is drawing you into its clutches.

This is not to say do away with being cognizant of your use - rather, try not to obsess over it so much.

Alprazolam may teach you to adopt a more relaxed perspective.

bonne ivresse
Clara Clummersodge - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 01:22:09 EST ID:D76yVkil No.137205 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Don't drink, relax and have a good time.

>What to expect?
relaxation, calm, sedation. Don't expect euphoria, benzos don't get people "high" in the same way other drugs do
Fucking Girryville - Wed, 20 Sep 2017 23:07:33 EST ID:K4DwwT9K No.137229 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Some people, myself included, get a brief wave of euphoria on the come up. With diazepam this lasts maybe half an hour after onset at most. It's basically a trap, because if you try to take more you don't get any more euphoria just more sedation.
So basically, if you're one of the people lucky enough to get some euphoria from benzos don't bother trying to chase it, you'll just catch the express train to blackout city.
Edwin Shittingworth - Thu, 21 Sep 2017 02:30:43 EST ID:D76yVkil No.137232 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>don't bother trying to chase it, you'll just catch the express train to blackout city.

this is 100% true lol. Many a times I've gotten my benzos refilled and gone on a spree trying to chase the initial feeling and then waking up with half my prescription gone hating myself

epam vs olam by Cyril Sandlebanks - Sat, 16 Sep 2017 19:11:20 EST ID:6egkqpI2 No.137166 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Out of the benzos I've tried the ones that end in -epam tend to give me the best effects (I've only tried about 5 benzos so it' a small sample size as of yet). I know the chemical difference between two but I don't understand what it means pharmacologically.

This also makes me wonder why there isn't anything like "etizepam" or "alprazepam"
Fucking Senningway - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 11:44:28 EST ID:6egkqpI2 No.137176 Ignore Report Quick Reply
pls respond
TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 13:35:58 EST ID:8+FfCjhh No.137177 Ignore Report Quick Reply
IIRC triazolobenzodiazepines end in -lam while traditional end in pam.

The difference being that the -lam have an extra triazolo ring, they're often the benzos that tend to have real "kick" associated with them.
Fucking Senningway - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 14:21:09 EST ID:6egkqpI2 No.137178 Ignore Report Quick Reply
yeah thats correct, but for me the feeling of the -pams is better, i actually feel "high" instead of getting pretty intense delusions of sobriety that I get with the -lams. I mostly made this post to see if anyone else has the experience.

I also don't understand why there aren't versions of etizolam and alprazolam that do NOT have the triazolo ring.
dr. m !gWLn19/oKs - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:01:49 EST ID:8Q1aoe1K No.137179 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>why don't these type of benzos exist?

They do. Look at Clonazolam

>Clonazepam+triazolobenzo = Clonazolam

Someone can synthesize all of the drugs you've mentioned, just remember that any unknown drug could be dangerous in humans. Look up MPTP and MPP+ and ask yourself if it's worth the risk.

This is why I just do the ~1-4 safest RCs in a drug class and usually call it a wrap, like etizolam (not even a RC), phenazepam, and diclazepam (the only risk is diclazepam itself, in that we haven't used it directly in humans). Sure why not try cLam a few times, but for the regular life those are more than sufficient.
Hannah Povingway - Mon, 18 Sep 2017 20:06:50 EST ID:UysRPQ/6 No.137193 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I mean specifically why hasn't anyone made etizepam and alprazepam. I am very aware that many of the benzos we know and love have a tiazolo and non triazolo version, so why dont etiz and alp? If they were somehow deadly that would be a perfectly valid reason, however I've looked them up and i don't believe anyone has even attempted to synth them. I personally don't know of any benzos that have been overly dangerous or had dangerous byproducts but if there are examples of that id love to hear about them

Also I've heard the story of MPTP and it's a toxic byproduct of another drug that from what little i've read seems relatively safe in and of itself.

I know there are a couple drugs that have been made that both get you hugh and have extremely awful side effects. But since when has this stopped anyone from making and testinf new chemicals ya know? theres always gonna be some ballsy person who tries it out first

Ambien for benzo withdrawal by Wesley Carringbock - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 23:03:45 EST ID:rf6gn85y No.137011 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Would Ambien stop benzodiazepine withdrawal?
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Wesley Carringbock - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 02:13:57 EST ID:rf6gn85y No.137019 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I am asking because I'm going through benzo withdrawal and I'm wondering if that would hinder the process.
William Snodspear - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 23:46:43 EST ID:K4DwwT9K No.137039 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well yeah, it acts on the same receptors in the same way. Mechanistically there's no real difference between z-drugs and benzos.
Shitting Smallridge - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 13:49:24 EST ID:AM2IXNTC No.137048 Ignore Report Quick Reply
But it of course doesn't last as long. So in other words, yeah it'll be more helpful than drinking beer but it'll wear off soon enough and basically just help take the edge of the process.
Ernest Grimbanks - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 15:40:41 EST ID:Ox/yCmUc No.137180 Ignore Report Quick Reply
z-drugs are more selective for certain receptor subtypes so it's not entirely interchangeable but they're similar enough. Something is going on with them considering the crazy delirious hallucinations that you can get with them but not benzos.
Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Sun, 17 Sep 2017 20:09:26 EST ID:8Q1aoe1K No.137185 Ignore Report Quick Reply

This. I recall Ambien being more selective for GABAa, whereas most benzos are non selective? Yet Lunesta seems to be non mostly non selective as well. This is why I hypothesize Lunesta is less likely to cause hallucinations compared to Ambien. I forget where Sonata lies within this comparison.

For the record, if I was in benzo WD my health's at risk, seizures aren't fun. If all I had was alcohol, I would drink either light beer or diet cola no caffeine w/ rum, just 1 serving per hour slowly sipping as much as you can. Then you kill the drink at 1hr. Consistency is key. Then to sleep I would probably do 2-5 drinks and try to get some sleep. Just don't run out of booze, and your body will only be able to handle this for 3. maybe 4 days max.

>ambien vs booze

definitvely take Ambien. OP it's perfectly legitimately to hop off benzos and use z drugs to sleep temporarily. It's more drastic than a taper.

The key is staying within medical dosing rang or forget it. Even with my tolerance, I usually never take more than 2-3 of the highest dose of each z drug. It's either not strong enough, worse delusions of sobriety than benzos, or too strong, possible tripping (I haven't tried it in high enough doses yet. I want to try weed+Ambien+say 200-300mg dxm hbr if it's safe to trip). It's too inconsistent person to person. I see one person take 10 ambien and drink an entire pint of spirits, and another guy take 1mg of pharma xanax with 2 ambien and he sleep walks into the car and sleep drives it into the garage door at 3mph.

Clonazolam by Ebenezer Fovingpack - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 17:04:19 EST ID:MPRjicNh No.137112 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How bad would it be to take 50mg clonazolam in about 24 hours? I think I'm about there. Fuvk me.
Dr. M !gWLn19/oKs - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 17:21:42 EST ID:Q+MC/w37 No.137114 Ignore Report Quick Reply

brain damage and seizure when tapering
Ebenezer Fovingpack - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 17:51:20 EST ID:MPRjicNh No.137119 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There's a part of me that wants to die "accidentally".. : /
Ebenezer Fovingpack - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 17:52:24 EST ID:MPRjicNh No.137120 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There's a part of me that wants to die "accidentally".. : /
TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 17:58:20 EST ID:8+FfCjhh No.137121 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well it to be fair it is significantly more likely you'll suffer long term physiological damage than actually dying.

The part of you that wants to die "accidently" either didn't play a part in this or didn't think this through.
Slippery Pete - Sat, 16 Sep 2017 23:11:34 EST ID:2EnpPJdv No.137174 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I really don't wanna scare you, but if you're going to try and taper (I suggest using Diclazepam, although I have no idea how high of a dose you'll need to help you taper off of a fucking monster dose like 50mg of Clam) but it's gonna be a long, excruciating and dangerous process.

When I was heavily taking clam, I was at roughly 2.8 mg per day.. and the withdrawals were pretty uncomfortable. I was lucky enough to have a calm taper with Diclazepam though.

You should go to a hospital, tell them what's going on and prepare for the worst. Seriously, you could die withdrawaling from that high of a dose. Please be careful.

Benzo Sadness by Jenny Feffingstare - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 20:10:58 EST ID:yOYIzjSR No.136999 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Does anyone else feel depressed and semi mad when they take benzos? I took about 5mg of klonopin and although i felt great in the beginning I feel sad now. I dont think its withdrawal because this is the first time I've dosed in months.
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Sophie Smallforth - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 16:51:38 EST ID:LBVUet1q No.137022 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah a re-upload. I was really sad seeing it vanish from my favs.
Now I need the Need for Speed vid back!!
Cyril Hongerman - Tue, 12 Sep 2017 11:47:43 EST ID:B1GWxIEF No.137046 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Walter Panderbetch - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 01:48:18 EST ID:K4DwwT9K No.137068 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Depression and low mood is a possible side effect of benzos for some people.
Dr. Katz - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 01:54:16 EST ID:LNlHBoqv No.137070 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've been on benzos for just over 5 years and I have definitely felt SOME depressive symptoms, but never anything crazy.
The worst side-effects that I have ever had were from Ativan (lorazepam). The agoraphobia, nausea, and depressed mood were unlike diazepam, clonazepam, and alprazolam issues that I have ever had before.

The best way to curb the depression is to maybe take a lower dosage and find an outlet. When I was in high school and not into any kinds of pills (except RX'd opiates when I had a skateboarding injury) I noticed that a lot of people with underlying and untreated disorders became depressed, violent, suicidal, and just all around terrible to be around. I have only have benzo rage when I had first taken alprazolam, but that quickly subsided.
Find healthy outlets ---- exercise, eating healthy, cooking, hiking, socializing, hobbies, etc.
Jack Songerwater - Sat, 16 Sep 2017 01:17:02 EST ID:B1GWxIEF No.137155 Ignore Report Quick Reply
love it fam

benzodiazepine withdrawal by Cedric Hirryfield - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 00:42:20 EST ID:rf6gn85y No.136982 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How long does it take for benzodiazepine withdrawal to begin? I know etizolam is a newer benzo type drug so this is a general question for any benzo. I have been using etizolam 2mg once a day in 15 day runs. 15 days on, 15 days off. I have done this 3 times. After 3 times I might be feeling withdrawal but can't be certain because of overlapping things happening in my life right now. Thanks.
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Dr. M !gWLn19/oKs - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 15:14:00 EST ID:Q+MC/w37 No.136992 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah I sure do. It's called the

>Natural Law acknowledged by the U.S. Constitution
Ian Dummershaw - Sat, 09 Sep 2017 18:35:59 EST ID:noWDwD+v No.136998 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Depends on half life and how quickly your body metabolizes it. I was on Ativan with a short half life and hit full withdrawal on day 6. People on valium or klonipin can take 2-3 weeks! Read this.... http://www.benzobuddies.org/forum/index.php
Dr. M !gWLn19/oKs - Sun, 10 Sep 2017 20:02:36 EST ID:Q+MC/w37 No.137009 Ignore Report Quick Reply
For some reason, benzo WD hasn't ever hit me like opi WD.

I've been fucking with etiz only again, probably 1-3mg per day average with off days.

I thought I was sick from something else, then realized I hadn't had any Benzos in 3.5 days.

It was mostly pseudo nausea and anxiety (I had lots of thebaine unfortunately, and it made it all worse.

Just remember that while etiz is more forgiving in dependency building, an etiz addiction feels like a fent addiction because it's so short acting. At my worst I was popping a 1.2mg pill every 2 hours or so.

Consider tapering with a longer lasting benzo.
Brainbastus Werrywag - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 01:08:43 EST ID:ubdIQtw4 No.137065 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Is that triazolam, OP?

If so, uuuuugughhhghguuuggghhhhhh muh limp dick.
TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 19:02:24 EST ID:8+FfCjhh No.137130 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>I have been using etizolam 2mg once a day in 15 day runs.

I really try to be as informational as possible from a harm prevention view point but damn man, did you even read up on this drug before taking it?

Hypothetically (it will obviously differ between individuals/the duration of time/ drug taken), you are well past the time line of expected wds, whether minor (I'd assume that's more likely but not a doc), or minor.

Benzo wd is highly dependant on halflife and metabolism, should be relatively short for etiz. 1~3 days.

I'm not going to lecture or tell you what to do, but man that dosage (although yeah I know it's not crazy by any means) is a real dosage that tends to be monitored by a Psych with the expectation of a taper. 45 days of taking (despite being non-consecutive) isn't something to play around with.

Plus etizolam is neither new nor a benzodiazepine.

This, and nice to see you Mario

methods of benzo withdrawal by Wesley Carringbock - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 00:54:24 EST ID:rf6gn85y No.137015 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What are your methods of withdrawing from benzos? I have found opiates to work and also to tapper off with a longer acting benzo, but what are your other secrets?
Bombastus Werrywag - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 01:29:01 EST ID:pms+D2hz No.137016 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There's only one method to withdrawal from benzos.

Stop taking benzos.
TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Mon, 11 Sep 2017 19:37:56 EST ID:8+FfCjhh No.137028 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Gradually reducing my dosage based upon my comfort and avoiding kindling.
Dr. Katz - Wed, 13 Sep 2017 00:16:19 EST ID:LNlHBoqv No.137059 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The best way to get off of a benzodiazepine is to taper with a long-lasting benzo (i.e. diazepam). The Ashton Manual indicates conversions between benzos. Really, the ideal way to taper for a long-term user is to slowly get off of your benzo by replacing it with diazepam --- this means NOT just switching to an equivalent dosage of diazepam day one. You will want to be stabilized on a long-lasting benzo and then taper down completely. Tapering can be very tricky for some people and it is quite common to get "stuck" at a dosage level. You might think jumping down 10mg diazepam at a time is a cake walk, but you may hit a point that your body does not tolerate further drops. It's all a process.
Understand that relapse is in the cycle of addiction. Relapse is common.

As >>137028 said, reduce your dosage based on comfort.
You do not need a long-lasting benzo, but it is a better idea. You can do a 10% dose reduction per week and finish tapering in 10 weeks. That's a relatively fast taper compared to ones that last 6 months to 2+ years.
TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 18:43:02 EST ID:8+FfCjhh No.137128 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Truth, Katz is right that it is generally common medical practice to use a long acting benzodiazepine for wd. As described to me once "It allows my patients to better manage the time between dosages while withdrawing and the decreases, but getting them off the last amount is a bitch"
Personally, I would agree with this statement based on my anecdotal experiences when I self tapered of clonazepam

Hypothetically, there are "short cuts/band aids" what have you but I mean at the end of the day you're either; taking a medication use for legitimate purposes (often relating to epilepsy), potentially trading one addiction for another, or running the risk of kindling (look that term up if it's unfamiliar). The long taper is a bit of a bitch but it's the tried and true.

benzo withdrawal by Charles Greengold - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 12:07:13 EST ID:rf6gn85y No.137098 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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If I am going through benzo withdrawal and i take a benzo does that restart the length like in opiate withdrawal or no?
Brain - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 12:39:34 EST ID:IT5Qn6Js No.137099 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Maybe not a full restart but it does set you back. Correct me if I'm wrong Katz/Mario/wang
Dr. Katz - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 13:10:42 EST ID:LNlHBoqv No.137101 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Do NOT drink alcohol during the withdrawal process. I have known many people to do so thinking it makes things better but it truly does not.

Also, familiarize yourself with the Kindling Effect.

Yessir. It's a set back.
Emma Nanderbene - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 13:54:00 EST ID:UhFBj5nv No.137104 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dextrolord - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 13:58:06 EST ID:UhFBj5nv No.137105 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I am getting to the end of benzie wd's myself and I would strongly suggest tapering for a week or two if you've been using for over a year and heavily like myself

I tapered for a week successfully to avoid panic attacks and lessen chances of seizures.

Kinda off topic for the thread but important info regardless

Won't try getting high again by Hedda Winkinchedge - Thu, 14 Sep 2017 08:19:22 EST ID:2XQbAiWj No.137092 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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76mg Xanax in a 4 hours span and I barely even felt it. I looked tired but remained completely coherent and 'normal' plus it still took time for me to fall asleep.

I've been taking this shit for 10 years now. My tolerance is off the hook. There's no point anymore when I use more than an entire 60x1mg box at once and not feel shit. So fuck that.

Now's the fun part, getting off with the tolerance that I have. But all in due time.

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