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Personal dumb benz experiences by Oliver Chattingville - Mon, 08 Oct 2018 02:12:28 EST ID:B8DHdTZo No.143667 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>have been slowing down benzo use from daily to tapering and everybother day
>bored af one Saturday, decide to dose 2.5mg flualp (aka about 5-7mg alp, with a much longer half life) early in the day
>black out
>come to hanging with my roommates
>apparently had done a bunch of the last of my 4-fa
>like 400mg thoughout the day
>also 400mg gabapentin at some point?? It was gone in the morning
>very vague recoluection of snorting a 65mg line of 4fa but thats it
>more friends come over
>we go barhopping
>i order several beers and white russians
>completely smashed
>play a game if pool poorly
>go from bars to friends house near our house, kickback going on there
>i imediately go to couch and crash
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Tue, 23 Oct 2018 17:10:15 EST ID:V59EaEXu No.144031 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Plot twist: OP is a police officer.

nb because the truth
Caroline Bronningdore - Fri, 26 Oct 2018 08:30:11 EST ID:qZK4Xh9a No.144083 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Vicious benzo and heroin addict
>The year is 2010, golden years
>Pick up script of 60 1mg xans
>Literally eat 20
>I'm fucked.jpg
>At my running buddies house, he wants dope
>I convince him to pawn his mom's iPad
>He reluctantly does, but has warrants so he can't pawn it
>I go in, and he tells me to only ask for 50$ so he can buy it back
>I go into pawn shop with iPad
>They offer me 50$. I get pissed and demand 150$
>After arguing, we settle on 120
>My friend is bullshit at me, but idk why, too rely
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Augustus Naffingchork - Fri, 26 Oct 2018 12:30:13 EST ID:Nh6bi7/b No.144084 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>start your day with double dose of alprazolam which I've been taking for a week at that time
>add 1mg clonazepam cause why not
>drive to univerisity
>grab some beer on my way cause I'm not sure I obliterated my anxiety enough
>do some presentation with people I don't even know
>it goes well
>on the way home smoke some cigarettes at bus stop
>some old lady starts talking it's illegal to smoke here (which is true)
>tell her to call the cops
>she doesn't do anything besides mumbling something
>hit some grocery store on my way
>steal some poppy seeds cause my inner opi addict kicked in
>make some pst at home cause nothing else to do for the whole day
>have some fun playing games and chatting with people
>it seems that my benz and opi tolerance is quite high as I'm still fully functional
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Augustus Naffingchork - Fri, 26 Oct 2018 12:31:09 EST ID:Nh6bi7/b No.144085 Ignore Report Quick Reply
oh and I almost forgot that most of this story is what I found out by reading my conversations with friends and posts on some drug related forum the next day
Nicholas Bubberville - Wed, 07 Nov 2018 06:51:24 EST ID:6t4v39M1 No.144232 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>taking etizolam, 3-meo-pcp and vaping a-pvp daily
>extreme mania and sense of 'I don't give a fuck'
>need money for more drugs
>don't want a job just money
>buy a few anonymous prepaid visas
>have pretty old ebay account with very good seller rating
>make a few auctions selling new ssds at slightly below market price (basically just enough to not look like a scam but sell quickly)
>whenever I sold an ssd I withdrew the money, went to amazon and order the exact model to be shipped to the ebay buyer with the cheapest (untracked shipping)
>buy gets ssd, I contact amazon support and say the package never arrived, they offer a refund or reship I pick refund since it was a gift for a friend and I had already bought another one (you could do this a few times with each account/card before they figured it out and banned you at which point I'd just make a new account using another prepaid visa)
>making pretty good money as it is, seller rating very good
>say fuck it that's too much work
>put up a bunch of even more expensive products on ebay, they sell immediately since my rating was so good
>not actually ship anything and keep selling more and more shit
>when buyers complain I apologise and refund their money, seller rating even higher, giving refunds using the money from new purchases running basically a ponzi scheme
>say fuck it, take the money, close the accounts, that was 5 years ago and nothing bad has happened to me so I assume I got away with it
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First valium by Simon Cellyhid - Fri, 02 Nov 2018 17:08:25 EST ID:nISA4w/r No.144171 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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My boss gave me some 5mg and 10 mg Diazepam ,First time taking a benzo, only drugs I've had are weed, kratom and shrooms.

I'm thinking of just taking 5 mg at first to see what its like. What should I expect? Thanks guys.
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Matilda Sezzleworth - Fri, 02 Nov 2018 17:58:51 EST ID:c/UafPZm No.144175 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Reach for the stars
Cornelius Bronningshaw - Sat, 03 Nov 2018 00:28:04 EST ID:adoMiWwT No.144184 Ignore Report Quick Reply
why did yr boss give you valium??
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sat, 03 Nov 2018 17:03:23 EST ID:2+mP7yeT No.144191 Ignore Report Quick Reply
A 5mg, 7.5mg, or 10mg dosage is a fine ass starter dosage.
I remember my first time taking diazepam. I took 10mg then went to a party. Maybe 6 hours later I took another 10mg. Diazepam had a beautiful glowing come up and lingering effects for me when I first tried it.
Enjoy yourself and try not to drink alcohol. Chill vibes!
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sat, 03 Nov 2018 17:04:58 EST ID:2+mP7yeT No.144192 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>what should I expect?
Muscle relaxation, physical and mental anxiety relief, some sedation, and an overall sense of calmness/well-being/not giving a fuck about life’s problems.

Cyril Drazzlehood - Mon, 05 Nov 2018 13:22:41 EST ID:fP6l98wt No.144210 Ignore Report Quick Reply
People get these when they take airliners,> if you will.

Valium is far different from say, clonazipam, or xanax.
So, 5 MGs 15 MGs one would feel the 15 MGs, as well
5 MGs, I would assume.

Alcohol Xan Safety? by Shitting Coshdit - Sun, 04 Nov 2018 03:55:02 EST ID:vpbtsLRH No.144195 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey guys, I had 3 shots & 1 beer ~4 hours ago. Not really feeling it at all at the moment - is it safe for me to take 0.25mg xan right now?
Nicholas Geffingspear - Sun, 04 Nov 2018 11:52:55 EST ID:+MivO9zy No.144197 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yes. 0.25mg xanax is a very low dose
Be safe - Sun, 04 Nov 2018 15:06:41 EST ID:v4KA/eXR No.144198 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>144195 Thats a pretty low dose of both alcohol and alp.Still mixin em really can be a 1+1 = 4 but i dont think most people even feel o.25 unless they have extreme anxiety.Still be careful , almost all stories i read with hospitalization all include copious amounts of alcohol and most often xanax.
Augustus Bunkinfield - Mon, 05 Nov 2018 10:56:32 EST ID:6t4v39M1 No.144208 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Op, this should be completely fine. Most people metabolise around 1 shot/beer worth of ethanol per hour (obviously not everyone is the same and not every shot/beer has the same amount of ethanol) so after 4 h there shouldn't be much left.

0.25 mg alprazolam is a low dose too.

Where people get in trouble with mixing alcohol and benzos is taking normal doses of both and either feeling good and not giving a fuck and continuing to take more until just passing out/ doing something stupid/both or just skipping the taking more part and going straight to passing out/doing something stupid/both.

Imo while being a low dose 0.25 mg alprazolam is above threshold for people without tolerance, but obviously not very strong.
Cyril Drazzlehood - Mon, 05 Nov 2018 13:04:55 EST ID:fP6l98wt No.144209 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You fall asleep

making benzo solutions by Fucking Crottingchot - Wed, 24 Oct 2018 10:58:32 EST ID:lmfxjcMB No.144049 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I've been thinking about making my own benzo solution using powder since its much cheaper than buying premade solutions. I just recently tried my first benzo solutions made with pure ethanol, and its so much easier to dose and store and i feel like it hits quicker but maybe thats just my imagination. Either way, ethanol is what i would use if i made my own.

Now my question is how difficult is it gonna be, seems pretty fucking easy and straight forward to me. just need a powerful scale and a graduated container, measure, then mix and im good to go?

The one thing im worried about is a lot of accounts ive read of people doing this say they have to heat the liquid to get the benzos to dissolve, but thats usually only when people are using PG. Will etizolam dissolve easily enough in alcohol at 10mg/mL that i wont have to heat it? Im worried if i start heating the ethanol some is gonna evap and im gonna end up with amuch more potent solution.
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Fanny Hangerlan - Fri, 26 Oct 2018 18:37:27 EST ID:gyPnqxoS No.144095 Ignore Report Quick Reply

That's what heat is for. Plus alcohol pads are common when dealing with syringes.
krill !q8zLDTZaC. - Mon, 29 Oct 2018 01:56:32 EST ID:Ms4RoFD0 No.144118 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've found that PG is necessary to hit those higher clonaz dissloved numbers. I use about 15mg total with ~1ml ever clear and ~14ml
PG. You'll need to reheat I every once in a while but I just microwave the shit ot of water and shake. Usually takes 2.5 days for precipitation to form
Grace !!wHOjiL0B - Mon, 29 Oct 2018 02:19:26 EST ID:/2QyQOU/ No.144119 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah, I agree on the ethanol point, but not so much on the micron filter point.

0% rudeness here, 100% politeness: as I said, micron filters need to be rated for sterility. There are many kinds of micron filters. A benzo molecule, and water molecules or ethanol molecules (which, IIRC, are even smaller, despite having more atoms - go mix 1/2 cup of water and 1/2 cup of as pure of ethanol as you can get, and you'll see that 1/2 cup plus 1/2 cup does not equal 1 cup sometimes, cause the molecules fit together differently) - those molecules are smaller than viruses.

Of course - "life finds a way" to quote jurassic park. But - a good micron filter should be more than enough - and it beats the EVERLIVING FUCK out of using -nothing- to sterilize a solution, or depending on alcohol or bacteriostatic water alone.

An autoclave will fuck with the concentration of your solution. Same for a pressure cooker ofc. You'd need to know your shit well to use one properly and not screw up the concentration of your solution. Meanwhile, a micron filter can be used by anyone who can use their fingers.

Using a properly rated micron filter makes it VERY unlikely you'll infect yourself with anything.

Molecular sieves are used to get alcohol to very high concentration - which is why you have a hard time finding alcohol over 95% concentration.

Bacteria and viruses, of certain types, can survive in alcohol, also in oils. Again - the risk is low.
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Hannah Sashnidge - Mon, 29 Oct 2018 02:48:48 EST ID:ggsY4k5k No.144120 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah just having a discussion disagreemwnt isn't rudeness, even on the internet.

You're right that using a micron filter rated foe sterility is a great idea, I'd even say a requirement if you care about your health. For all intents and purposes it's sufficient unless you're doing something dumb like trying to sterilise a shot with.akmwonw else's blood in it.
Fact is though a micron filter designed to determine bacteria and particulate is usually 0.2u or 0.22micron. Hep B virus is 0.046 microns long. Parvovirus is 20nm.

Micron filter are awesome and you'd be crazy not to use them. They're sufficient for almost all cases, but there is a limit.
Caroline Blytheridge - Sun, 04 Nov 2018 04:42:01 EST ID:2TcxxMt2 No.144196 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hey guys I know asking for sources here is a no-no, but was hoping someone might be able to let me know if one is safe or not without giving the name. Does anyone know if a certain depot is safe?

I usually get hated on in here for talking about my script but whatev by Caroline Bronningdore - Thu, 25 Oct 2018 21:31:43 EST ID:qZK4Xh9a No.144062 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I have a yearly appointment with my doctor tomorrow. He's a psyche doctor, and he's pretty dirty. I got Xanax and adderall from him by making an appointment and saying "I want Xanax and adderall". I'm perscribed 2mgs a day, but obviously this isn't enough for my God tier benzo tolerance. I've never been nervous to ask for mg increases in the passed but for some reason right now I am. I scheduled the appointment to "ask for a raise on my Xanax" and he agreed to see me.... But it's been so fucking long since I doc shopped. What exactly should I say?
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Nathaniel Dupperbutch - Fri, 26 Oct 2018 18:02:42 EST ID:adoMiWwT No.144094 Ignore Report Quick Reply
well, when i wanted/needed more klonopin, i told my doctor that the amount i was taking no longer helped with my anxiety and panic attacks, which was true. you could try something like that.
Grace !!wHOjiL0B - Wed, 31 Oct 2018 14:25:19 EST ID:/2QyQOU/ No.144150 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My doc is very professional and not dirty but, I'm gonna add this anyway:

That worked for me for a while - but eventually she started saying that it was pointless to up the dose any further, and that I should work on grounding strategies, coping skills, so on and so forth. Other anxiety reducing things.

She upped my dose of propranolol - which originally gave me 40bpm heart rate (I am very sensitive to it, VERY. Had to go from 10mg to 5mg, now finally going back up to 10 and not getting too low of a heart rate, stays in the 50's-60's usually). It's actually helping I think. That said - I'm also dissociating more.

Three different days this week I didn't use any diazepam - going to be 4 if I go without today. That's down from 2-3x 5mg per day.

I have sweaty palms a lot but, not having panic attacks multiple times a day like I used to.
Grace !!wHOjiL0B - Wed, 31 Oct 2018 14:26:18 EST ID:/2QyQOU/ No.144151 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also the days I used diaz this week, I only used 1x5mg.
Doris Dattingwill - Thu, 01 Nov 2018 04:32:03 EST ID:PSo/c1C0 No.144162 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Xanax is waay overrated get some diazepam the good stuff. Or Ativan instead of xanax they give ativan IV to calm crazy ppl down in hospitals
Matilda Grimlock - Fri, 02 Nov 2018 05:16:00 EST ID:i62fV9Ck No.144169 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I would love to hear how day 4-10 are for you if you continue to stretch. In my experience those are the days that I fall out and/or get the worst withdrawal symptoms.

how long does it take diaz tolerance to go down? by Grace !!wHOjiL0B - Wed, 31 Oct 2018 14:29:21 EST ID:/2QyQOU/ No.144152 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey peoples - how long does it take for diazepam tolerance to decrease?

This week I've gone from 2-3x5mg per day, to having 3 days without diaz this week, and only using 1 5mg pill on the days I needed it.

I've been using 2-3x5mg for months, and lower doses for months before that. I'm pretty sure I'm sensitive to it because of 5mg working for me.

I'm not going for total tolerance reduction or anything but, if I'm able to keep up this lower level of dosing, how long until I start having less of a tolerance to it?
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Wed, 31 Oct 2018 16:17:53 EST ID:RwHglV2/ No.144158 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Weeks to months. For some people major tolerance decreases can take a year or so after complete benzo cessation.

The great generic war by Reuben Hibberpudge - Fri, 26 Oct 2018 15:34:50 EST ID:2lf5c2g8 No.144089 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Ok goys I wanna know, in your opinion, what's the superior generic for Xanax? I've found mylan, aurobindo, and Sandoz to be very substandard (some pills don't seem to work as well) and I've read countless studies supporting this claim, especially about mylan and aurobindo. So I usually request for greenstone only on my fill, but today they're out of them so I requested activis. How do they compare quality wise?
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Fri, 26 Oct 2018 16:56:55 EST ID:E2GnJ5Hz No.144092 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Greenstone is my go-to for alprazolam. Personally, I don’t love Actavis or Dava like some people do, but they’re better than Sandoz. Aurobindo is actually fine by me since they subjectively feel like they should and are objectively closer to the style and consistency of Pfizer/Greenstone tablets. I prefer Aurobindo over Sandoz, but I’m weird like that.
Matilda Dradgespear - Fri, 26 Oct 2018 22:09:24 EST ID:2lf5c2g8 No.144099 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yoooo usually I take 7 greenstones to start but today I took 5 activis and was benzd. The fuck. Out dude. My new fave
Hamilton Sackledock - Sun, 28 Oct 2018 12:43:27 EST ID:yQFPaJiJ No.144111 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Only get the se generic Pfizer on Finland. Named xanor.
Scourge of the West - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:29:13 EST ID:76UJ/BFg No.144135 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Almost impossible to find these days, but there's this one little Mom and Pop place off St. Andrews that still somehow stocks Barr. Not bars, Barr. Their 1 and .5 mgs are better than most 2mg generic bars.
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Wed, 31 Oct 2018 01:28:36 EST ID:t8lReBf3 No.144143 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I thought Barr Pharma only had alprazolam XR? Even then, a 0.5mg or 1mg alprazolam tablet even from the worst generic manufacturer shouldn't be better than a 2mg tablet from another brand.

Phenibut Withdrawals by TheWizardOfAus - Wed, 05 Sep 2018 05:59:41 EST ID:SkFhzDJk No.143082 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Okay Benz, I've searched through this board but I can't find much on Phenibut withdrawals and can't find much information on the questions I have online.
So for a few years I was very heavily addicted to Poppy Seed tea, you wouldn't believe how much I dosed every day for years.
Anyway like every other idiot after my poppy tea addiction I fell into benzo addiction.
I've been taking Phenibut everyday for over a year now, I'm up to 3g's daily of Phenibut FAA sublingually.
I've managed to taper down from 3g's FAA daily to 300mg.
Now I work a very dangerous and labour intensive job so I need to make the end of this taper as painless as possible, because it's already quite hard and I can't take any time off work.

So my questions are, Phenibut FAA is apparently 3x stronger taken sublingually than standard Phenibut orally, does anyone know if this is true? Because I have some normal phenibut I'd like to swap over to and start dosing orally and I want to continue with the correct taper schedule.

I've also been looking to using Xanax short term at the end of my taper once I jump off the phenibut completely as Phenibut mainly acts on GabaB receptors and Xanax/Alcohol mainly acts GabaA.
Will this negatively impact on my tolerance/withdrawals or will I get relief with no issues?

Lastly, going off the same idea of seperate Gaba receptors, will alcohol once I'm off Phenibut send me into withdrawals again or will it be okay from time to time (Once a week).

Appreciate all replies and I'm sorry about the giant wall of text!
Isabella Buffingwater - Wed, 05 Sep 2018 10:05:33 EST ID:+MivO9zy No.143088 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>So my questions are, Phenibut FAA is apparently 3x stronger taken sublingually than standard Phenibut orally, does anyone know if this is true?
I've never used FAA phenibut but i did use phenibut almost daily for a year, and in much higher doses, around 20-30 grams a day. At higher doses phenibut does act on the gaba a recept like a benzo does, im not sure at what does exactly.

>I've also been looking to using Xanax short term at the end of my taper
Benzos do help with the phenibut withdrawals some.

>will alcohol once I'm off Phenibut send me into withdrawals again or will it be okay from time to time (Once a week).
Once a week should be fine, that's how often i drink and there's no issues. I havent used phenibut since February though so it's been out of my system for a while.

Phenibut withdrawals are hellish, just as bad as benzo withdrawals, at least when you take 20grams a day. It's so effective at fighting anxiety but it would make my feet swell up and i couldnt sleep at all, when i did i would wake up gasping for air sometimes. Also overdoses on phenibut while relatively safe but you can black out and be very impaired, unable to walk, unable to talk normally. This happened to me 3 times and after the 3rd i said enough was enough and i gave it up.
Isabella Buffingwater - Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:08:52 EST ID:+MivO9zy No.143089 Ignore Report Quick Reply
same person. I wish i could keep phenibut in my life because it's wayyy better at fighting anxiety than benzos at 20g plus doses. But you cant maintain the high forever. While i was using 20-30grams of phenibut daily over 45 days i managed to start an online business, i talked on the phone for the first time in 5 years, i got a cat. All of these things were good and continue to be good although when i first sobered up and realized the responsibilities that i took on it was quite terrifying.

My point is phenibut can be so useful but it was hurting me physically. My feet would swell so bad they swelled on the bottom too so it was hard to even walk. I just wish there was a drug for anxiety that could do what 20 grams of phenibut did but in a safe permanent way.

Isabella Buffingwater - Wed, 05 Sep 2018 16:40:17 EST ID:+MivO9zy No.143090 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also i just have to add because im drunk and stoned and benzed, I dont think people realize how powerful phenibut is at the right dose. I mean phenibut gets rid of anxiety so much better than benzos it makes benzos look like that weird piece of dog shit that turned white. It's so effective but it cant be taken long term, like benzos, safely. You will experience hell on earth withdrawing from a high daily phenibut dose. but if you can't/wont get rc benzos, like myself, buy phenibut instead. It's better and legal everywhere.

Reuben Hankinfuck - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 14:51:43 EST ID:DnO6hkYA No.144136 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why can you not get RC benzos?
Thomas Clonnergold - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 15:17:21 EST ID:+MivO9zy No.144137 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's more about not wanting to get into them than them being unavailable. I've blacked out for a month before, i dont want to lose a year with some powdered rc benzo, and that's what would happen because i lack self control. I lack control to the point that i've avoided phenibut for almost a year even though i love it cause i just take 20 grams a day everyday till it's gone.

Cyclobenzaprine by S. Bunhong - Mon, 29 Oct 2018 00:55:19 EST ID:9gc1XFu+ No.144115 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Got prescribed Cyclobenzaprine today @ 10mg with 12 tablets non refillable.
Never had anything of this class before. Love dxm, psychedelics, and percs however. Doc told me not to take more than 3 at a time but here I am curious as if I took let’s say 6 if I could be feeling real good. Tried googling a little but I’m so unsure of the negatives of this drug. Weigh about 116kg and I’m 191cm if body mass matters for how much I should take for a good time.
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S. Bunhong - Mon, 29 Oct 2018 01:40:21 EST ID:9gc1XFu+ No.144117 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Damn I thought so, wasn’t sure if there was a threshold for fun rec use. Might just pop a few and smoke a fat blunt! Thanks for the input tho! Appreciate it!
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Mon, 29 Oct 2018 14:30:09 EST ID:5xm+9lrB No.144123 Ignore Report Quick Reply
A 10mg dosage on its own can be VERY sedating for some users. Taking cyclobenzaprine with benzos or alcohol is a great way to pass the fuck out if you don't have a tolerance. There's next to no point in taking more than 20-30mg at a time unless you have a tolerance. The drug has ZERO recreational effect and only has synergy with /benz/, /opi/, weed, and booze. However, this synergy is ultimately just increasing the sedation of other substances.

>Let's say 6
No, don't take 60mg cyclobenaprine. That's a complete waste of the drug. Hell, even 30mg is overkill. Remember, the drug lasts ~8 hours so don't re-dose after 90 minutes if you aren't feeling very much.
Brain - Mon, 29 Oct 2018 19:38:58 EST ID:c/UafPZm No.144125 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Master chief reporting in

Eliza Shakeworth - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 02:47:44 EST ID:upsVRre6 No.144126 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I take 10mg for my back when I really need it, but the hangover is monstrous. I see you mixing it with benzos but I just don't get it. It's a long comeup, a shit hangover, and it doesn't even do what it's supposed to other than knock you out. I can't imagine what 6 would do to you other than fuck you up for 2 days.
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 13:23:52 EST ID:Fhyl65Pl No.144132 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don’t really get any side-effects from taking cyclobenzaprine. Sometimes I’ll take 10mg twice in a day or even 20mg at a time, but it’s rare. Too, it’s all medicinal usage. Taking the drug on top of benzos without actual need just sounds like an accident waiting to happen: passing out at work, passing out while driving, looking intoxicated in public, etc.
Really, I try to take cyclobenzaprine at night as it does help me sleep but I don’t get any gnarly sedation like a lot of other individuals.

How 2 Phenibut by YAMOMSASSHOLE - Thu, 25 Oct 2018 16:14:31 EST ID:k4XzzYHR No.144060 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I just recieved 125 grams of Phenibut in the mail.

What's the best way to consume it and how much is a good dose to get a good high going for someone who has a bit of a tolerance to /hooch/ and /benz/?

Pic unrelated
Frederick Ferringshaw - Thu, 25 Oct 2018 23:28:58 EST ID:+MivO9zy No.144076 Ignore Report Quick Reply
1.5grams is a good starter dose. I always just put the powder into a little bit of water and drink it like a shot. Tastes bitter but you get used to it.
Emma Fuckingford - Mon, 29 Oct 2018 03:42:26 EST ID:LJMBy+W7 No.144121 Ignore Report Quick Reply
dont take it more than 2 times a week at the most.
Thomas Brugglestock - Mon, 29 Oct 2018 04:31:53 EST ID:ZqXCocTb No.144122 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This this this
I cannot stress enough to just occasionally take it.
You build up tolerance quick and it really is not worth it to become dependent on it.
I was addicted for 3 months, was taking around 4 grams daily toward the end. The withdrawals were awful, and around a month later my last physical symptoms are finally disappearing (the insomnia and fast heart rate)
I made a thread about getting off of it a while ago and this board really helped me.
Phenibut really is nice but you have to respect it. Dont take more than 2 grams, there's no point really.
Eliza Shakeworth - Tue, 30 Oct 2018 02:51:06 EST ID:upsVRre6 No.144127 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'll second everyone else and say to use it sparingly. I've personally seized on WDs and a guy I knew at a gas station I frequent was taking "sleepwalker" pills they sold and seized in his shower and died from hitting his head on the tub. Be careful with them. Phenibut is great, but it isn't worth it IMO. Be careful OP.

AMBIEN by Hamilton Bubblefield - Tue, 07 Aug 2018 18:13:52 EST ID:uLkUBcSY No.142633 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Got prescribed stilnoct from my doctors, took one and now everything is floating in the room. Did i i get prescribed fucking drugs, is this the same as ambien? things are starting to get strange, the screen bunches back and forth as I type it out and the other texts here are floating in and out of screen.
wutf the fuck, am i high, now?
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Walter Clibblebin - Wed, 24 Oct 2018 16:37:38 EST ID:T/hQWMcT No.144052 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I’m on .25 of kpin at work and holy shit I love how fast it makes time fly. No anxiety at l. Shall I talk another.05? I have Red Bull if I get sleepy 🤔
Walter Clibblebin - Wed, 24 Oct 2018 16:38:47 EST ID:T/hQWMcT No.144053 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Posted innwrong thread, disregard thist hen:(
Martin Gocklekat - Thu, 25 Oct 2018 00:24:33 EST ID:ZG2/Iaba No.144054 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I probably should have been put on methadone (though I'm glad I wasn't) as even 32mg didn't get me well. The increased from 26 to 32mg was just a way to distract me really as far as I can tell, it made no real difference. I decided I was over it and basically went from 32 to 4mg over 2 weeks then tapered off slowly from there. Maybe it would have no negative effect on test at the dose, but personally I don't want to go back to opioid dependency at the moment.

You can't necessarily spot low T, you won't necessarily grow moons or whatever or lose muscle mass immediately depending on how active you are.
I'm not trying to dissuade anyone from bupe maintenance, it definitely helped me get my shit together, but the data on endocrine effects is definitely lacking.
lol - Thu, 25 Oct 2018 15:20:08 EST ID:BqpvRW4y No.144059 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Strange, I've never heard of anyone ever not getting well from buprenorphine and I've met some people on it who were using 20 30 years, methadone has an effect on T too I believe, i was on subutex five years and hsve been on methadone going on 4 years. My testosterone is probsbly super low
Ebenezer Nadgesog - Fri, 26 Oct 2018 13:06:39 EST ID:ZG2/Iaba No.144086 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Methadone has a pretty drastic effect on T levels, almost always more so than bupe.
If you're worried about it get it checked. If you don't want to go the TRT route then clomiphene can be an option too.

It's down to the whole ceiling effect bit, if your tolerance is high enough bupe will reduce but never eliminate WD symptoms entirely. Dr M can attest to this.

Seizure from Benzos (Etizolam) or did something else cause it? by Charles Semmlepidge - Fri, 19 Oct 2018 00:22:09 EST ID:Z3Un6lKC No.143969 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I like to do Benzos on the weekends (usually Friday and Saturday), specifically Alprazolam and Etizolam. Experienced my first seizure in my life this week, and I can't tell if my Benzo habit caused it. I went a little crazy last weekend and went through 60mg of Etizolam, because I blacked out and did 40mg in one night. Still don't know how I blacked out, because I only took 10mg originally. But it happened. Could such a heavy dosage lead to physical dependence in such a short time span? Usually I would go through 20-30mg a weekend, and never had issues with withdrawal symptoms. I thought I would be able to avoid the more nasty stuff if I kept things spaced out by 5-6 days, especially since Etizolam has a shorter half life than alprazolam.

At the same time, I had gotten maybe 6 hours of sleep in the past three days leading up to the seizure, was smoking a lot of cigarettes, and had no food in my belly the day of the seizure (which was about 5 days since my last Benzo use), and I also took some Sudafed the morning of, which I've read can increase seizure risk. I was also anxious because I had an important work project to finish that day.

How fucking dumb would it be to take like 5mg a night this weekend? If that's excessively stupid, how long should I wait before doing Benzos (in much more limited quantities) again?
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Tue, 23 Oct 2018 13:30:11 EST ID:V59EaEXu No.144027 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Many posters believe that benzos are only suited for recreational purposes for their utility as a means of coming down from /psy/ or /stim/, or simply in combination with other drugs and alcohol.
Personally, I find the therapeutic relief to be enough that I would rather take a benzo than drink the majority of the time. While drinking socially has its perks there are situations that I find using a benzo better than drinking.
Alice Gunnersen - Tue, 23 Oct 2018 14:50:27 EST ID:fgYg1DcK No.144028 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It would be nice if we had more socially accepted alternatives to alcohol. I've tried benzos and it's all nice but the side effects of regular recreational use seem as bad as alcohol, just in different ways.

I have a lot of internal debates with myself if kava and kratom (you can usually get both at the kava bars popping up across the country) are the superior alcohol alternatives. Both kava and kratom have been cited for liver issues, but when I think of all of the nastiness alcohol does to the body, I have to imagine alcohol is noticeably worse and the negatives are significantly underreported. Also basically any psychoactive drug outside of marijuana (even stuff like valerian) seems to react bad with the livers of a few random people.

I know they're working on commercial synthetic alcohol alternatives that are basically research chems and won't give you a hangover. That's intriguing. I swear there was one you can legally buy, but I can't find it now. Probably will still be unhealthy for you in another way if you abuse it heavily.
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Wed, 24 Oct 2018 01:42:07 EST ID:t8lReBf3 No.144041 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Kava is great and kratom does have its place when used relatively infrequently.

>react bad with the livers of a few random people
Some people are just that sensitive to specific drugs. Hell, even people's kidneys have varying sensitivities as some of my friends can do Ketamine for days on end without problems and others piss blood after only using infrequently for a few weeks.
Emma Chirrykick - Wed, 24 Oct 2018 05:36:52 EST ID:ZG2/Iaba No.144045 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Emma Chirrykick - Wed, 24 Oct 2018 05:41:43 EST ID:ZG2/Iaba No.144046 Ignore Report Quick Reply
AFAIK the liver issues with kava have been seen solely with preparations made with parts of the plant other than the root and with alcohol based commercial extracts/tinctures often both - cheap commercial alcohol based tinctures which also included non-profit plant parts. Combining kava and alcohol is a known no no so why these existed at all is a good question.

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