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Etizolam Info and ETC. by XANMAN420 - Sat, 27 May 2017 17:09:03 EST ID:2T7qZx71 No.135449 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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For 3 weeks I was taking 1-2mg of xanax and then I stopped for like 4 days and I didnt get sick.

Now I bought etizolam and I love it. I heard 4mg of etizolam is 2mg of Xanax. so I take 2-4mg of etizolam and once 6mg. (only been taking for a week so far)

How long does it take to get physically addicted. How to avoid it. I dont crave them or anything. I take it for muscle spasms as I do physical therpay (traction) ((they stretch me on a machine and it puts the disc back in place awesome stuff))

Anyway. I never wake up sick like I did when i was on Opana and Oxycodone. With this stuff I dont get sick at all. I can take it at 11pm or and 11am and I feel fine.

I once took 1-2mg of Clam for 2 months and just stopped and I didnt get sick.

So my question is how long does it take to get physical WD.

Im on 800mg of Gabapentin 4x a day. Can that be used to help taper off fastly if I ever did get addicted.
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XANMAN420 - Sat, 27 May 2017 17:10:39 EST ID:2T7qZx71 No.135450 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OP here
That Clam months was 3 years ago
I also took Kpins 2mg for 2 months straight and just stopped and didnt get sick either.


Flight Help by Phoebe Nevingway - Wed, 24 May 2017 21:28:04 EST ID:f3Fw8nWk No.135411 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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ok /benz/ I needed some consulting fast, im going to make 3 flights in a week and I've got a crippling fear of plains. was planning to take some donazepam and some benzos but i wanted to know when to take them but also to not over doit. The following flights in order are: 1. A 55 min flight 2. A 3 hour flight, and 3. a 6 hour flight. Thanks for your helping anons and may the God of benzos bless you with many pills.
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Clara Hirringfag - Thu, 25 May 2017 03:19:19 EST ID:K4DwwT9K No.135417 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135415
You don't need it to hit you hard. Benzos produce delusions of sobriety like few other drugs. Generally benzos will reduce anxiety at doses well below what will get you fucked up. (If you're getting amnesia noticeably then it's hitting you pretty hard)
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Phoebe Nevingway - Thu, 25 May 2017 12:18:22 EST ID:f3Fw8nWk No.135419 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135417

what im think of doing is start out with 1mg on the first flight, if i need to retake another dosage i will do before the second flight and for the third i will take 10 mg of zolpidem (schleeping pill) and dose off.
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Ian Pocklecocke - Thu, 25 May 2017 22:24:23 EST ID:K4DwwT9K No.135432 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135419
Fair enough. Keep in mind though that z-drugs like zolpidem and benzos like clonazepam basically hit the same receptors and have the same effects. If you take zolpidem regularly it might explain why clonazepam doesn't effect you as much as it might (cross tolerance)/
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Angus Draffingwater - Sat, 27 May 2017 08:36:05 EST ID:Ac8u7vnV No.135447 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just chug airport beer like a normal person.
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Sat, 27 May 2017 15:55:26 EST ID:lWXPBqqj No.135448 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135447
>drinking and benzos in the airport
>as if we only do one or the other


Benzos and Ritalin by Cedric Blythebanks - Mon, 22 May 2017 18:30:48 EST ID:9pst/LUf No.135385 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I've just been prescribed Ritalin for my ADD, to help me study. Thing is, I also use benzos a lot, but not a a prescription, I get them "elsewhere".
Not sure if this is the right place to ask, but how should I got about this? I use benzos for social anxiety, I don't use them to get high. Now my psych wants me to take Ritalin to help with studying and concentration in general. Is it bad to mix the two? I'm not looking for a high, just trying to get through university. I didn't tell my psych about the benzos because I don't legally get them.

Anyone have experience taking both benzos and Ritalin?
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High Strung - Tue, 23 May 2017 17:34:03 EST ID:/YluKyww No.135396 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135394
> If you do end up mixing Ritalin with benzos, please avoid drinking.

Trufax
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Priscilla Mimmlehudge - Thu, 25 May 2017 14:37:29 EST ID:9pst/LUf No.135422 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135394
>>135396
Is mixing alcohol that bad? In the sense of, you'll fuck your body up or in the sense of, you'll get black outs and do stupid stuff? I've drank on benzos loads of times without anything horrible happening.
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Brain - Thu, 25 May 2017 14:56:03 EST ID:p3Y5bzHa No.135423 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135422
Drinking while taking benzos is never recommended. Sure you've never had any issues but MANY have. Adding a stimulant to the mix is just a bad idea from a health stand point.

When combinfing the drugs listed with other central nervous system depressants, chances of ttoxicity and fatal overdose increases.
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Ebenezer Sigglebury - Thu, 25 May 2017 20:54:06 EST ID:R0NDpCXF No.135430 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135422

Benzos and alcohol is a bad combination mainly due to how unpredictable it can be. You may just get more drunk with less alcohol, you may black out and take more drugs than you planned or you might come to in the hospital with a shiny, new criminal record and it's very difficult to tell which one you're going to get.

Alcohol and stimulants is a bad combo because the stims make it hard to tell how drunk you are and the combo lowers your inhibitions more than alcohol or stims alone and you can drink more without blacking out until the stims wear off and you're blacking out out of nowhere.

Doing all three at once is just asking for trouble.

Also ethanol changes the metabolisation of methylphenidate to create ethylphenidate which is more potent and more cardiotoxic. So yeah, be careful.
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Thu, 25 May 2017 21:48:27 EST ID:lWXPBqqj No.135431 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135430
Ethylphenidate is not more cardiotoxic what the fuck? This isn't cocaine and alcohol dude. I would love to be proven wrong. It's literally just ritalin but less edge/push and more high because it's more dopamine and less norepinephrine release.


Boofing Benzos by KingPoli - Wed, 17 May 2017 21:15:46 EST ID:bBBQqffo No.135332 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Is this an effective way to get the biggest bang for ur buck or is bio availability no better than oral? Like can i boof some bars? no trolling
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Doris Cegglecocke - Thu, 18 May 2017 01:30:21 EST ID:K4DwwT9K No.135336 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135332
No, most benzos are not water soluble which is part of the reason that boofing them really doesn't work too effectively. *Might* get faster onset but in general it will be lower BA. Oral is the best method for alpazolam, with enzyme inhibitors like >>135335 suggested.
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Doris Cegglecocke - Thu, 18 May 2017 03:34:17 EST ID:K4DwwT9K No.135337 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135336

Basically you need to look up the bioavailability for a given ROA and drug beforehand. Rectal has a much higher BA than oral for say, methylphenidate but you can't just assume it will work better for any given drug.
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Fri, 19 May 2017 23:03:04 EST ID:YJ4Zw/Ff No.135357 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135332
All depends on the drug

Chances are if it's water soluble then it benefits from plugging.

So midazolam is worth snorting or plugging if you won't use needles.

Also triazolam is worth trying to plug efficiency wise, even if it's not water soluble.

If you are plugging something worth plugging and you have cheap pure RC powder or whatever then fine of course you should add some to your boof shots like etizolam or whatever. Otherwise it's not worth the effort.

All common benzos should be eaten. I've only seen 9 triazolam pills in my life and they were 8 years old and were scripted for a surgery only 10 count. I've only had midazolam in the hospital in IV form.

No idea about newer RCs but if they're already strong, long lasting, and relatively cheap then oral only is the most logical.
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Ernest Blythefoot - Mon, 22 May 2017 23:02:04 EST ID:499Is8P3 No.135387 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>give me some bars please
>Central phoenix, airzonã
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Martin Dickleshaw - Thu, 25 May 2017 05:35:38 EST ID:pbiGxYf/ No.135418 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135332

I used to plug ("boof", buttchug, the respectable intrarectal spectical!) Etizolam and Diclazepam dissolved in propylene glycol and it worked fine, but really not much better than oral. It was just a faster comeup. It needs to be dissolved first in something that benzos, alprazolam in this case, are soluble in, then mixed with water. A pill won't work without a lot of extra bullshit steps, though. Just do it orally, it's barely even worth it with a solution.


Going on long-term by Samuel Fusslekat - Fri, 19 May 2017 21:26:18 EST ID:uY5x3Gs2 No.135355 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I have pretty bad generalized anxiety disorder and social anxiety disorder. I'm not physically addicted to benzos, but take them more often than I should and definitely have problematic abuse patterns on the whole. I just had a conversation with a girl I recently met while on 3 mg etizolam, and although I always knew of benzos socializing effects, I'm only now reflecting on how much they transform me when talking to people. When I converse sober it feels like all my thoughts and ideas get jumbled up and locked away, and my anxiety racked brain struggles to come up with anything to say besides stutters and weird, awkward, clipped speech. But when I'm benzd it's just so different. All my thoughts and ideas I normally keep to myself flow effortlessly, I don't feel like everyone I speak to hates me and I can be funny, engaging and, well, social.

I am seriously limiting my social and romantic life by not being constantly benzo'd, the difference in the impression I make on people is night and day; if I'm benz'd I can have lots of friends, a romantic partner and have positive work relationships, if I'm not, I can't, simply. I was planning on starting to take clonazolam daily, with etizolam for short term anxiety maintenance for about a year or so. I have enough money to where funding my addiction will not be a problem.

Does anyone have any tips (besides "don't") for someone planning on going benzos long-term? Is memory loss a major issue when you have a tolerance? Should I try to get prescribed benzos if I'm choosing to go long term?

Thanks
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Dr. Katz - Sat, 20 May 2017 13:07:34 EST ID:fxIkwqoW No.135361 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135355
Attempting to keep my post short...Yes, you should try to have a prescription that is medically supervised is almost all cases. Yes, memory loss is still an issue even after tolerance is built.

You'll need to understand how to taper. Look into benzo tapering schedules. Look into the Ashton Manual. You'll also need to know the conversions if your doctor does not. It's safe to assume that your doctor will most likely not have much experience with tapering. In this sense, you need to be your own advocate for how/why tapering should occur.
Why have you set a timeframe up of one year, OP? Medically speaking, long-term is anything past 4 weeks of daily use. Many doctors don't even want to prescribe benzos, let alone for long-term use.
Cognitive issues are a major problem with daily usage. Too, clonazolam has an usual seizure threshold. The chance for a seizure, based on reports, has been much higher on clonazolam compared to traditional benzos. Taking clonazolam with etizolam is complete overkill. I really cannot suggest being on such a high potency benzo as clonazolam with the intention of daily use.

I have nothing against etizolam, but I will always speak up against clonazolam.

I understand that you have anxiety issues, OP. But you need to realize that benzos are not a cure for anxiety. Benzos should be thought of as a tool (i.e. band-aid) that helps with anxiety. Really, a person should use benzos only when necessary and try to condition themselves to being less anxious in specific situations by gradually reducing the amount of benzos used for an anxiety provoking situation.
Hopefully your journey is a success, but I have to suggest against daily usage. Even with a proper tapering schedule and knowledge of the drugs, there's a major risk present here. Many long-term users report worse anxiety after getting off of a benzo than before they were ever prescribed.

>tl;dr get a doctor, long term is a terrible idea, memory loss will be an issue that is pervasive, understand the inherent risks of daily use
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Angus Sushchene - Sat, 20 May 2017 20:04:23 EST ID:mrK4wwvw No.135363 Ignore Report Quick Reply
man I feel you OP. When I'm benzed socializing is a breeze. I think your own description of socializing benzed vs not describes my own experience accurately as well. Like you said, it's night and day.

Memory loss is absolutely an issue. I've been on benzos for 5 years and I have a huge tolerance, but benzos make my memory shit anyway. Only difference now is that it's basically impossible for me to black out.

Definitely get a prescription. See a psychiatrist and go through all the hoops and hurdles until you get one, it's worth it. Since you have anxiety disorders it shouldn't be too hard, although to make it even easier you should tell them you have panic attacks all the time as well (even if you don't - yeah, lying about something like that feels kinda fucked but panic disorder is a surefire way to get a benzo script).

Try to keep your dose as low as possible. It'll be super tempting to keep going higher and higher, but don't do it. Start small and bring the dose up bit by bit until you get your desired social effects, and leave it there. Well, probably adjust it a bit later for tolerance too. But yeah, try to keep your dose at the level it's needed - not the level you _want_.
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Reuben Nubblesudging - Mon, 22 May 2017 17:23:47 EST ID:9wUtj5LG No.135382 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135355
Like anything else, being social is a skill that needs to be practiced. By constantly taking benzos, you're retarding your ability to learn how to socialize. You're really shooting yourself in the foot here.

And yes, memory loss is still a major issue and it literally feels like you're making yourself a way dumber person. Just trust what people are telling you and avoid learning the hard way that benzos are shit for fixing your problems long term.
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Sophie Gurryville - Tue, 23 May 2017 18:30:20 EST ID:UghBpr5k No.135398 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>you're retarding your ability to learn how to socialize. You're really shooting yourself in the foot here.
says the person that didn't spend over 20 years being afraid to walk down isles in the store that had other people in them. you're absolutely making valid points but it annoys me to see them phrased in a way that suggests everybody experiences anxiety the same way
in conclusion: OP should get a doctor.

>I have enough money to where funding my addiction will not be a problem.
then you have enough money for a doctor

for people that can't get a doctor i recommend sticking to small amounts of etizolam as spot treatment for particularly bad events
i personally have no issues using clonazolam but i will never ever suggest daily use of it over the internet


Skip the days by George Meffingham - Tue, 23 May 2017 03:14:47 EST ID:syv2FVL9 No.135388 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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i just want to skip days, don't do nothing and don't think about nothing i remember back in the day i used to take a lot of lorazepam, do you have any other technique to suggest?
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David Clezzlehitch - Tue, 23 May 2017 04:14:56 EST ID:ehnK8nAc No.135389 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Attempting to induce mass memory loss over a long period of time isn't recommended dude. I'd suggest trying to deal with your life instead.
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Dr. Katz - Tue, 23 May 2017 17:21:37 EST ID:8xenG9hK No.135395 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135388
I had friends that would do this quite often. I don't talk to them anymore because of poor life decisions.
Deal with problems and learn coping mechanisms. Living life in a blackout isn't much of a life. OP, there's no problem great enough to necessitate simply not ever remembering anything at all. Counseling/therapy would be a better idea.


i wrote a song about Lunesta and how its a shit drig to get hooked on by Shit Smallbanks - Mon, 22 May 2017 17:37:11 EST ID:x1E9MLIx No.135384 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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dont fucking do lunest. its fuck shit and anyone who sysays otherwise is a fucking fool. i odnt even think im hight right now but its wo hard to type thats how i knoe.anyway im wuitting this htitty drug (at least recreationalloy) and i made a song about it. gime a listen ya benz fiendaliniz.
https://soundcloud.com/bab3l/luna
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Samuel Billingcocke - Wed, 24 May 2017 00:42:38 EST ID:K4DwwT9K No.135407 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135384
>i odnt even think im hight right now

Evidence suggests otherwise. But yeah, the delusions of sobriety with benzos and Z drugs are strong.
nb


24mg eszopiclone by Basil Finningford - Sat, 06 May 2017 00:55:09 EST ID:x1E9MLIx No.135117 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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just took 24mg of lunes ta over the course of a cuppla hours blackout dose?? ama faggosoags
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Phineas Micklenet - Sat, 06 May 2017 21:18:15 EST ID:x1E9MLIx No.135135 Ignore Report Quick Reply
it was indeedu
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blinkeybill - Mon, 08 May 2017 03:49:24 EST ID:CghspUDU No.135159 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135135
can you od on solely z-benzo
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Esther Goodwell - Sun, 21 May 2017 14:00:27 EST ID:hRBJo7Z3 No.135373 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135159
Nope. Unless you're planning to take ridiculous amounts. Which you should not, because even then it is quite unlikely.


Track that sums up benzos by Henry Clinkinbitch - Sat, 20 May 2017 20:23:35 EST ID:sO0CoAIJ No.135364 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Post a track that sums up your experience of benzos.
Here's mine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vr7bJLoORD0
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Brain - Sat, 20 May 2017 20:47:58 EST ID:p3Y5bzHa No.135365 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135364
https://youtu.be/X4qYox-Gb70
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Ebenezer Lightspear - Sun, 21 May 2017 07:26:17 EST ID:/MC3SJxB No.135371 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGiSIyklJyc
somehow..


Buspar (Buspirone) by Samuel Suckleworth - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 22:17:58 EST ID:2EnpPJdv No.134990 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I've been taking one 15 mg bar twice a day for the past two weeks now and have noticed a subtle decrease in my anxiety.

I know Buspar does not work like a benzodiazepine, but I do know that it produces psychoactive effects at higher than recommended doses that vary extremely wildly from user to user.

That being said, I was wondering if it is worth anything besides the therapeutic parts of it. Worth sniffing? Plugging? Or just popping say.. 50mg?

I've read a lot ofmixed reviews about this substance used in a recreational manner, but none of them are conclusive enough for me to try it other than how it was recommend a to be taken by my doctor.

What say you, /benz/? Worth anything recreationally, or should I just stick to how I'm using them?

Oh yeah, and..
>inb4 sell them as Xanax
I'm not a twat.
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Ebenezer Lightspear - Sun, 21 May 2017 07:14:55 EST ID:/MC3SJxB No.135370 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My friend gave me a few before I was prescribed my own meds..
when i got back from the ER she came to my house with buspar and we cuddled while crying about our shitty problems

>sniffing? Plugging? Or just popping say.. 50mg
Its just buspar ...Please dont..
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Edwin Bindletidge - Sun, 21 May 2017 08:39:55 EST ID:K4DwwT9K No.135372 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134990
Gb2 /other/

And no, buspar isn't recreational
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Sophie Gurryville - Tue, 23 May 2017 17:38:02 EST ID:UghBpr5k No.135397 Ignore Report Quick Reply
the shit makes me lightheaded and i have to lie down uncomfortably while having periodic and really shitty feeling brain shivers

go nuts with it


BWP-bump while pumped by Phyllis Sankinstadging - Wed, 10 May 2017 22:25:27 EST ID:x1E9MLIx No.135238 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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pumped 2 recieve some delicious bad decisions in the mail soon, come in 2 this thread and tell me what drugs youre waiting for
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Basil Blytheford - Mon, 15 May 2017 16:27:40 EST ID:x1E9MLIx No.135305 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135304
lot more euphoriant effects thn cpam i likw it
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Shitting Tootfield - Tue, 16 May 2017 02:21:50 EST ID:1/Dg7nv+ No.135311 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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i got my flubromazolam today, which is pretty lit. i also got 3 meo pcp but thats not a /benz/ thing. but man this flubadubdub is wicked chill
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Basil Clayridge - Tue, 16 May 2017 18:56:24 EST ID:x1E9MLIx No.135319 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135305
same this i s way better than clam
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Isabella Pickman - Fri, 19 May 2017 18:22:20 EST ID:x1E9MLIx No.135352 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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diclaz got alldone at onece somehow, lost a day, then next tay vaped clam feelin cmforabalye
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Ebenezer Lightspear - Sun, 21 May 2017 06:45:26 EST ID:/MC3SJxB No.135369 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>what drugs youre waiting for
I got prescribed klonopin like a day ago...woke up too early and the pharmacy isn't open yet. anxiety has been rough


Benzos and productivity by Wesley Dartson - Fri, 19 May 2017 01:45:16 EST ID:RH5Zob6B No.135346 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Been started Xanax since last weekend and everytime I do it I always feel real carefree, but I was wondering if any of you ever actually get things done? All I manage to do is chill with people, feel really happy and free, and then black out, but I'd really like to be able to do it and then actually deal with responsibilities. I've been taking two bars every time so is it time to dial it back?
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Thomas Pinderforth - Fri, 19 May 2017 14:57:09 EST ID:uTq+tymH No.135348 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135346
4mg is a really heavy dose. I would recommend 0.25-1mg. If you are not planning to be a daily user(which is generally a really bad idea), you should be able to function (and feel benz'd) quite normally every time. Also don't smoke too much weed. personally i'm good with 0,25-0,5mg, and as I said, it really depends on your tolerance, and personal needs and feels. So yes it would certainly be a good time to dial back. Also, try to do a little research yourself before you ingest (and especially start using) any psychoactive substances. nb.
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High Strung - Fri, 19 May 2017 17:24:16 EST ID:/YluKyww No.135349 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Okay day at work.... supposed to be getting weed but it probably won't be here until like 9pm tonight.

So until then:
>2mg Alprazolam
>2mg Clonazepam
>1 tall Asahi

Why do beer and black metal go so well together?.....
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High Strung - Fri, 19 May 2017 17:24:59 EST ID:/YluKyww No.135350 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135349
Oops ha ha thought this was BWB fuuuuuck

Somebody delete this NB
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Dr. Katz - Sat, 20 May 2017 12:52:57 EST ID:fxIkwqoW No.135360 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Take lower doses, OP. Maybe combine with caffeine to boost productivity.
There's a major difference between a low to moderate dosage for medicinal purposes/recreation and just getting completely blitzed. Why two bars every time?

>>135348
this


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