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clonazepam + etizolam? by Terror Incognito - Sat, 03 Mar 2018 15:18:27 EST ID:2EnpPJdv No.139762 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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how good of a combination is that? I have a script for klon, but I can order some PG Etizolam for super cheap.

anyway, do ya'll enjoy the mixture? They seem like they'd go reeally well considering how functional klon is.
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Drifter - Sun, 04 Mar 2018 20:13:11 EST ID:1xelmKIV No.139778 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Love that combo, on it ATM.

1200mg of gabapentin, 200mg Wellbutrin and 3 grams of white Kratom. Would do benzos but took xanax 3 days ago and have a drug test soon, can't risk it.
Sophia !0R/XnN1IK. - Sun, 04 Mar 2018 22:16:05 EST ID:as5ueRdu No.139782 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Why the white kratom? I always mix with a red with my etiz. Am I missing out?
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Mon, 05 Mar 2018 16:35:33 EST ID:NJylQQvU No.139792 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The combination goes quite well together, but etizolam lacks the punch and duration of alprazolam. It’s very subjective as to which someone likes more, but a short acting benzo + a long lasting benzo are very pleasant together. You can definitely feel when one is kicking in then the amplified effects thereafter.
Edward Semmlelire - Wed, 07 Mar 2018 09:53:28 EST ID:9n9Pvxg0 No.139842 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Whites gives me a sharp mood and energy uplift that the other veins lack. Anecdotally, I don't think whites are the best for tapering or anxiety, but I'd rather take some white vein kratom + caffeine pills than an amphetamine or another strong stimulant daily since I already been hooked on clonazolam for the past 20ish days. If I'm already on clonazolam, no way in hell am I going to let myself touch 3-fpm or 2-fma.
Shitting Nidgedock - Thu, 08 Mar 2018 17:33:24 EST ID:Z4W7aR9H No.139864 Ignore Report Quick Reply
ay bruh area 51 lit

getting xr by Henry Backlewill - Wed, 07 Mar 2018 16:24:58 EST ID:jwKZzQRs No.139848 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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currently scripted 0.5 alpraz 3 times a day. however, it's a bit of a pain to stick to the dosing schedule and I feel an extended release med would be more compatible with my schedule. do doctors have any reservations about prescribing xr? is there any reason he might decide against it?

TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Wed, 07 Mar 2018 17:03:08 EST ID:oSLrvTaC No.139849 Ignore Report Quick Reply
XR alprazolam is a poorly designed drug, but in general most doctors (assuming your rational is legitimate) would consider it the "safer" of the two MOA's

If you mean switching to a long acting BZD such as clonazepam, or diazepam, they might have reservations as; clonazepam is quite potent, and diazepam has a fair amount of stigma from the old days.

Your best bet from what you describe (in my opinion) would be to ask about something like lorazepam. You seem to be using them therapeutically, and your post doesn't seem like you want to abuse them (or else any junkie would take the alp IR script and run). Although Lorazepam is "weaker" than alprazolam it has a comparable onset and a moderate rather than short duration.

If you suffer from acute anxiety you probably don't want to touch the long acting BZDs and, personally, I'd avoid Xanax XR as its fairly flawed in design (trying to extend a short acting triazolo was more of an attempt to decrease abuse potential than create an effective med)

Some docs may be open to low dose clonazepam in this scenario but some may see that as wandering into GAD treatment.
Shit Heppertack - Wed, 07 Mar 2018 20:55:07 EST ID:qjc0zT4C No.139856 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This would be a fair comment. Just listen to their recommendation. they may switch depending on what works for you. Just tell them a detailed reason on what you are experiancing

Valium is GOOD for you by Eliza Sicklespear - Fri, 23 Feb 2018 10:27:52 EST ID:O2MSz7fX No.139634 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Friendly reminder that it is 100% safe to take as much Valium as you'd like.
Take as many Valium as you want and taking too many is never bad and it's always awesome.
Valium is good for you and you should treat yourself today.
Harvard Medical School
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Fri, 23 Feb 2018 19:55:15 EST ID:CyLvTdKk No.139643 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Nicholas Peblingson - Sun, 25 Feb 2018 18:25:42 EST ID:5o2I4jcJ No.139668 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Edwin Finderlatch - Wed, 28 Feb 2018 18:10:25 EST ID:kdmIdIV4 No.139706 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Polly Cleffingbog - Thu, 01 Mar 2018 04:14:51 EST ID:9n9Pvxg0 No.139720 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't advocate the message but that's the best shirt I've ever seen
Cornelius Blovingmedge - Wed, 07 Mar 2018 04:46:20 EST ID:9YMYTp66 No.139837 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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BA shirt, wish I could do that without puking. Pic rel to the shirt style


Story Time (share yours!) by Cornelius Blovingmedge - Wed, 07 Mar 2018 04:33:38 EST ID:9YMYTp66 No.139836 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Gonna go ahead and start with mine, as despite my love affair with drugs and this website in general starting 5~ years ago (mainly /dis/), my love affair with benzos has only truly begun yesterday (granted, using them for legit medical reasons and as-needed apart from the occasional weekend fun, which I've had no problem managing with many potentially addictive drugs over the years).

>First ever Psychiatrist appointment from 3:00pm to 3:30pm
>Immediately get RXs for Clonazepam (1mg), Alprazolam (.5mg), and Sertraline HCL (50mg) (Pharma is a fucking joke, idk how some of y'all have trouble finding stuff, unless you lack insurance and other financial stuff in which case I'm sorry!).
>Go pick those suckers up hyped asab at like 4:00pm
>Wait a few hours and dive in on 1mg of Alprazolam (maybe around 6:00 - 6:30pm ?)
>Eat another mg another hour or 1hr30min later (7:30 - 8:00pm ?)
>Grab some Chick Fil A (it wasn't too hard to drive, and this place was like a mile or two from my house; last time I did xans, the real kicker was trying to drive the morning after) because I feel extremely happy from the lack of anxiety/mental over-analysis (9:00pm ?).
>Come back, shit tastes better than usual (except for the part where I honestly forgot I was eating until I saw that it was all gone), doing all that while watching random comfy YT vids between listening to random rap music about xans (Famous Dex, Lil Pump, Wifisfuneral, etc.)
>At some point jump in bed, telling myself specifically "well, I ain't getting up after this but w/e" (probably around like 10:00pm).
>I think I was looking at porn or social media or something for a while on my phone and then just fell asleep. I have no real recollection of 10:00pm to 3:00am.
>Wake up at about 3:30am after having the most clear and memorable dream I've had in Y E A R S, ironically enough, which was of course about doing crazy shit off the xans, but the immediate kicker was having no memory of when and how I fell asleep so recently.

As a side question, which you don't have to answer, how does Clonazepam compare in similar recreational doses of Alprazolam, or even doses just similar to 1mg of Alprazo…
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Wed, 07 Mar 2018 17:29:13 EST ID:oSLrvTaC No.139851 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't have at great stories anymore but I'll answer your question

The equipotency between alprazolam and clonazepam is 1:1 but due to differences in sub-class, onset, duration, etc it is a bit of an "apple to oranges comparison"

Was rxd dosages of 4mg clonazepam for years, it's abuse potential is high but since the onset is comparatively slow, you often won't realize you are fucked up until it is too late. Try not to redose or judge effects hastily.

Alprazolam (although I only used it once) hit like a truck but didn't last nearly as long.

Can't say I ever found much rec usage in BZDs essentially you'll enter a similar state 45-2hrs in on clonazepam as you would in a much short time period of alprazolam. The fact that it hits quickly means it is much easier to abuse. With clonazepam it is much more difficult to gauge dosage as what may feel like a minimal effect is actually gonna fuck you up as the onset kicks in.

The real issue is that a high dosage of clonazepam can leave you pretty fucked for a fair period of time, especially if you redose after a half hour because you aren't "feeling it"

I'd stick with 1:1 out of a safety POV, but since you have a tolerance you might find clonazepam weaker but the duration is much longer.

Personally, I'd try and avoid abusing them, it really isn't worth it in the long run.
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To taper or not to taper, that is the ? by Thomas Sellyletch - Thu, 01 Mar 2018 23:30:42 EST ID:lW4DmpEO No.139735 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hi y'all. First week of January I got a great Xanax deal and bough way too much of it. I sold some of it to my friends but ended up downing most of them myself. I've been taking around 0.25mg-2mg almost every day for two months now. I've never taken more than 1mg at a time and no more than 2mgs within the span of 24 hours. Couple of days ago I tried to stop but got intense rebound anxiety. Nothing too heavy but it made me really uncomfortable. I don't know much about benzo withdrawals except that it's scary and dangerous to go cold turkey. I had flu-like symptoms, I could not sleep very well and I had strange anxiety while doing everyday things like grocery shopping.

I don't wanna use benzos any more but I'm slightly afraid of quitting. I only used xanax for two months. That can't be too bad, right? Can I just go cold turkey and be fine? I don't want to have seizures and/or brain damage because of my binging.

I bought a couple of extended release xanax tabs and few klonopin since they have a longer half-life than normal instant release xanax and thus they keep the withdrawals at bay longer. Am I overreacting? Should I just stop or is tapering with clonazepam the way to go for me?
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dr. m - Mon, 05 Mar 2018 15:04:00 EST ID:9bc+hVin No.139791 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Just a friendly reminder that both xanax and etizolam have potentially horrendous rebound anxiety. This makes tapering extremely difficult for both.

Order diclazepam and get off.
Rebecca Pocklefoot - Mon, 05 Mar 2018 18:49:28 EST ID:aMrIhQZj No.139795 Ignore Report Quick Reply
yeah dude, sound advice. unfortunately my source was out of diclaz so i bought more etiz :< at least i have enough to potentially taper off. been trying to taper for months now though.
gotta make a schedule or something
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Tue, 06 Mar 2018 00:59:20 EST ID:CyLvTdKk No.139800 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It is going to be quite difficult to taper off of etizolam with etizolam, but it is possible. A standard rapid taper would involve a 10% dosage reduction per week. To my knowledge a 10 week taper is the fastest and safest bet in comparison to custom tapers. Other tapers can take many months or even a few years to finish.
I haven't heard many good or bad things about using clonazepam to taper off of a fast acting benzo. Diclazepam is your best RC bet (yes, I know that your source is out). Diazepam is your best RX bet.
Wesley Dubberforth - Tue, 06 Mar 2018 02:12:00 EST ID:aMrIhQZj No.139801 Ignore Report Quick Reply
thanks for the advice, man! Just noticed your name as well, Dr Katz was one of my favorite shows :)

I actually lucked out and got some diclazepam ordered today, so I'm feeling good about getting off of benzos altogether in the next months.
In my experience, diclazepam feels a lot less enjoyable than etizolam. It certainly helps with anxiety but I feel more zombie-like and less energetic than when I'm on etiz. Hopefully this will help curb any desire to re-dose as I taper off.
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Wed, 07 Mar 2018 02:51:22 EST ID:CyLvTdKk No.139828 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The name came about due to my academic interests at the time to pursue a PhD in psychology. I didn't watch the show much, but saw pieces of it as a young child in the late 1990s.

Best of luck! Diclazepam is a great benzo for therapeutic purposes as well as tapering. If you need help establishing a tapering schedule there are guides online that will give you rough equivalencies. With tapers it is imperative to remember to take them slow and steady.

And yes, the drug is objectively better for treating GAD/SAD/agoraphobia while etizolam would be best suited for panic disorder.

Sleep problems on ETIZ by p s y c h - Sat, 03 Mar 2018 06:54:37 EST ID:aGfIA4Sg No.139754 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I've gotten my shipment of etiz and metiz I posted last week or some days ago and I'm having real hard time sleep
Emma Greenshit - Sat, 03 Mar 2018 08:13:08 EST ID:hOmWV+4Y No.139755 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Take more etiz
slepttwicein49 - Sat, 03 Mar 2018 17:39:38 EST ID:aGfIA4Sg No.139767 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i ve also have the current problem its been like day five or so. I threw in some addy in there sometime but i usually can sleep

Bromazepam by LionKing - Thu, 01 Mar 2018 21:47:39 EST ID:Vd6/QMyV No.139733 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hi there. So i got 27 pills of "Eudon" each one has 1,5mg of Bromazepam, 0,5mg of clebopride malate acid and 200mg of simethicone. Its prescripted for stomach pain because of stress. someone know if i can get high or get some nice effect with it?
Thanks. And sorry for the bad english.
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Sat, 03 Mar 2018 02:01:09 EST ID:CyLvTdKk No.139753 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This reminds me of my first or second experience with barbiturates. Yeah, I had the major RX and some RC benzos under my belt, but I didn’t not know what i was in for.
Well, with combination meds like this you need to be aware of the side-effects of the other drugs in this pill. There are bromazepam “bars” that are 6mg that people will take for medicinal and recreational purposes. I’ve heard good things about bromazepam, but nothing incredible. Maybe start with 3mg and see how you feel?

RC Benzo - Metizolam by p s y c h - Wed, 28 Feb 2018 00:18:52 EST ID:aGfIA4Sg No.139694 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Recieved 500mg of Metizolam from a vendor(on sale), days later my Etizolam arrives (50x1mg pellets Etizest).

I created a pg solution for the Metizolam 4mg per 1 ml

I've read that 2mg of Metizolam = 1 mg of Etizolam = 10mg Diazepam

Has anyone had any experience with Metizolam? Can I dose both Metiz and Etiz together?
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Wed, 28 Feb 2018 00:23:42 EST ID:CyLvTdKk No.139695 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Avoid dosing them together. If ratios indicate that 2mg metizolam = 10mg diazepam I would advise starting out with 0.5mg to 1.0mg metizolam in a single dosage to gauge the strength of the drug.
p s y c h - Fri, 02 Mar 2018 01:27:13 EST ID:aGfIA4Sg No.139737 Ignore Report Quick Reply

thanks for the reply.

Valium the shittiest drug? by Polly Fibberville - Fri, 23 Feb 2018 16:33:50 EST ID:5x+Bueje No.139637 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I was prescribed with Valium 5mb a tab and I tried taking about 30 and all I feel like is being in drunken tired state. I don't notice any benefits from what I am feeling. Is this drug the weakest?
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m - Sat, 24 Feb 2018 18:16:25 EST ID:TYGCDdeJ No.139653 Ignore Report Quick Reply

There's nothing to ween off of. You should stop dosing today.
Nicholas Peblingson - Sat, 24 Feb 2018 21:04:30 EST ID:5o2I4jcJ No.139655 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This whole thread is painful

OP benzos are a sedative, the effects you experiences are normal.

The poster responding was impersonating someone impaired in benzos

You don't need to taper off. You are retarded. A taper would result in dmdiazepam metabolite build up over a longer period of time than you've even been taking it.
Just Google the fucking drug before you take it
Nathaniel Clicklebury - Tue, 27 Feb 2018 00:21:58 EST ID:RWL6JK3w No.139681 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If valium is the first benzo you've tried ya might as well stop now, bud. If you don't even like the effects then why flirt with the most addictive class of drugs there are?
If you're a benzo user who's just unimpressed with valium, I can relate. I've never felt much from valium regardless of dosage. Klonopin is a much better solution as far as long lasting benzos. Short term id recommend etizolam and Xanax. But seriously, if you're just trying out benzos and didn't like the effects, say fuck it and never touch em again. There's no point, doogy
Lillian Nillerham - Thu, 01 Mar 2018 03:16:30 EST ID:OyWChHSL No.139718 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've actually been wondering about the addiction potential of different benzos, and I feel like the long half life guys really give the others a bad rap. I was taking 1 mg of etizolam almost daily the past few months for sleep. I've been out for close to 2 weeks now and I haven't noticed any withdrawal symptoms. I'll probably get more eventually but my vendor's out and I can wait.

I'm guessing being benzed out for 3 hours of the day is a lot better for addiction potential than being benzed out for 12+ hours of the day.
Augustus Fibbertare - Thu, 01 Mar 2018 19:39:28 EST ID:5o2I4jcJ No.139729 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The opposite is true as a general rule

It is more of the sudden onset that has the higher potential, although they all share it.

Think of it like IR vs ER (although with benzos that doesn't truly apply fully)

But yeah no. Try selling a junkie diazepam vs alprazolam.

therapeutic Etizolam by Lydia Fanford - Sat, 03 Feb 2018 22:23:34 EST ID:fKIAJ82Z No.139301 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I need something to nurse withdrawals from other drugs that I prefer to benzos. I only occasionally need a benzo for anxiety. Is etiz an acceptable drug for these therapeutic purposes or does it have many side effects/is it better for recreation?

I'm sensitive to valium and klonopin, both give me slight paradoxical reactions. Xanax is hunky dory though. Street benzos strike me as particularly sketchy. That plus convenience is why I much prefer the legal internet route.

Thank you, afterwards I will fuck off to my other boards and let you doze in peace.
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Reuben Clessleway - Mon, 05 Feb 2018 09:32:00 EST ID:G4GbZ/Zi No.139323 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Doctors literally prescribe benzos for people to QUIT OTHER DRUGS COLD TURKEY.

the only drug i can think of that they prescribe them for is alcohol
i suppose some doctors might prescribe a benzo with a long half life to people trying to taper off a shorter acting benzo, e.g. prescribing valium or kpins for xanax withdrawal

also in my country a 10 day taper would only be for raging alcoholics drinking a fifth a day, people with lesser dependencies would get shorter tapers
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Mon, 05 Feb 2018 12:45:10 EST ID:eU6VsVxS No.139327 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Valium (diazepam) and Librium (chlordiazepoxide) are commonly used to help with alcohol withdrawal. Diazepam seems to be much more common though. Besides alcohol w/d it is incredibly common to taper off of a stronger benzo (e.g. alprazolam, clonazepam, etc.) with diazepam.
I don't have personal experience, but I have heard that some in-patient clinics will give out diazepam for opiate w/d for the first couple of days.
Hugh Shakespear - Mon, 05 Feb 2018 14:31:16 EST ID:fKIAJ82Z No.139331 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thank you. That's all I wanted to know.
Beatrice Sizzlesidging - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 03:04:39 EST ID:EwUic2eK No.139380 Ignore Report Quick Reply

You're correct. Some Detox Centers will utilize benzos as comfort meds to patients withdrawing off of other substances. I've even heard of a DXM fiend being admitted to detox and getting benzos for his withdrawals, in his case it might of been them mistaking his D.O.C. for codeine containing syrups though.
Martin Bishspear - Thu, 01 Mar 2018 10:57:32 EST ID:TKqGHQ9z No.139724 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I got my first set of benzo scripts after opiate w/ds. Helped heaps at the time but months and months on I have access to so many diff drugs, plus I've had a a fractured scaphoid for a couple of months and got to try some pretty cool opiates too. nbnb but I shouldn't have so much access ahaha

Synergy by Polly Sommerford - Wed, 28 Feb 2018 21:59:18 EST ID:cjQt2fCy No.139714 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Lorazepam + weed, is there synergy to be found? Lets find out!
Simon Brinnerville - Wed, 28 Feb 2018 22:24:20 EST ID:hOmWV+4Y No.139715 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Please report back. Not many make it out alive.
Polly Sommerford - Wed, 28 Feb 2018 23:08:42 EST ID:cjQt2fCy No.139716 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Not many make it out alive.
Wh-what do you mean? Is there a raisin that there's no trip reports of this variety on erowid?

took my lazzy bout an hour ago with some melatonin before a brisk walk, majorly yawning over here. hunger like a freight train

Was doubting toking up before but I must undergo this, for SCIENCE!
Polly Sommerford - Wed, 28 Feb 2018 23:21:00 EST ID:cjQt2fCy No.139717 Ignore Report Quick Reply
such heavy Gs...
Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Thu, 01 Mar 2018 13:50:40 EST ID:CyLvTdKk No.139725 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yes, benzos and weed have loads of synergy.


Different effects than normal by Martha Goddlekot - Tue, 27 Feb 2018 23:14:03 EST ID:RbKhIzqH No.139692 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey /benz/, been away for a while now. I just got a fresh prescription of lorazepam today, and I'm noticing some different effects than the last time I took it, which was almost 2 years ago.
It used to be that when I took it, as soon as it kicks in I get a small euphoria rush while all anxiety melts away. I could just lay down and do nothing and still be happy because it was like the volume is turned down on everything in life and I didn't have a care in the world.

Today, I still felt the anxiety and cares melt away, but no accompanying rush of euphoria. Just kind of felt empty. Not upset or depressed, but not happy by any means. It's hard to explain, but it wasn't the most enjoyable experience. Also, my stomach has felt kind of sick ever since I took them earlier. Never had anything like that happen to me after taking any benzo.

Any ideas? I took 2mg today, let the tabs dissolve under my tongue, did not have an empty stomach if it matters, and I drank a 12 oz hard cider to accompany it but that's it.

I will of course ask my doctor about this as well, but this is a convenient place to post before.
Augustus Brollypack - Wed, 28 Feb 2018 20:43:32 EST ID:+e6dmayP No.139712 Ignore Report Quick Reply
yeah something similar happened to me with lorazepam despite taking it for some time. It was an fairly unpleasant dysphoric experience, it was strange, hypothetically its a potential rare adverse reaction to lorazepam but the percentage of patient's those symptoms present in t is low enough that it isn't likely.

Still at the time my doctor switched it, but didn't know/care what could have caused it.

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