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Help please Etizolam thread by Mushroom-Madness - Sat, 29 Apr 2017 18:05:57 EST ID:EX9JxS6n No.135040 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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420chan I would really appreciate some advice here because I am really worried and scared that I really fucked myself up this time. I am feeling really weird and stupefied headfuck feeling with anxiety.

From all this talk on rc benz and etzi in particular I decided to try it unfortunately.

Yesterday I took the etzi at about 1 pm at a dose of probably .5 mg (it was about a quarter the dropper and the vendor said half the dropper is 1mg). I had a little bit of kratom and 1 mg of ativan (perscribed) in the morning.

I went out with friends and had about 5 pints of beer through out the night from 4 pm. I wasn't really feeling the etzi much till late in the night at 10 pm when a joint was smoked.

I didn't sleep last night and I was having suppressed breathing most of the night. I got through that. It is now 3 pm and i still have weird hand sensation, and my head feels fucked with weird sensations. I feel really weird and not good in general. I don't know what to do 420chan I am really concerned right now that I won't go back to normal.

I am sorry for the ramble, but I would really appreciate some advice or assurance because I am kinda freaking out. Also I would like to know when this drug will get out of my system and I will feel normal again. I am freaking out right now.
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Thu, 18 May 2017 09:48:35 EST ID:jAVu9760 No.135339 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135040
Etizolam is NOT an actual RC, OP. Its a prescribed drug in several developed nations. Diclaz is an RC but likely the safest as it's metabolites include Ativan and valium.

But the rest need to be more heavily respected like clam and both flubs. I enjoyed clam 15mg total over idk month or two. Worth trying but buying 100mg+ of the shit is kinda stupid imo.

This is why I only use etizolam with regularity and intend to buy diclaz for diagnosed severe GAD. I'm also hoping diclaz can get me to sleep during opi WD. 6mg etizolam and 3 beers couldn't get me to sleep.

Katz and others with qualified experience will say stick to long acting typically. I respect their opinions but disagree for those who aren't dependent. The ONLY reason I still somehow aren't physically dependent on benzos has got to be from me using 95%+ etizolam. Possible partial reverse tolerance, fast clearing time like 4-6hr half life versus up to 12th with xanaz. I swear if I converted it to diclaz/kpin/valium of same dose equivalents I'd be dependent ask shit my receptors would have no chance to upregulate.

Just my 2 cents. There's obv cons to short acting ones.
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Thu, 18 May 2017 09:51:51 EST ID:jAVu9760 No.135340 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135339
Oh yeah you just feel like shit from drinking and rebound anxiety from short lasting etiz since you're on ativan...

Would bet $100 OPs problems had 0 to do with 0.5mg fucking etizolam. I could feed that amount to my dog.
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John Billingman - Thu, 18 May 2017 14:17:53 EST ID:yds1wBaL No.135341 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>135040

Holy fuck guys... Literally just hung out with my friend the other night who lives in chi, he gets in the car, immediately gives me a tagamet and we go to the store to get booze cause he can't smoke. After like 4 or 5 cigs we finally get someone to buzz us into his apartment building because he got locked out and we then agree we should get some coke. We get it, go back to his apartment, he gives me what I did not know at the time was 20mg of pure etiz on a spoon, go to chill on the balcony and his neighbor comes out asking if we're smoking.. of course im like "hell yeah wanna match?" so we do.. Then we invited him to do a couple lines with us and I think at this point I blacked out. Wake up the next day to find blood EVERYWHERE... apparently my friend got super depressed and started cutting himself.. got kicked out of his apartment by his screaming dad while I was still way more fucked up then I thought I was and proceeded to crash my car into a railing..

Whatever you do please just don't make retarded decisions like me.. could've very easily killed someone/myself and I genuinely feel like a piece of shit
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Phoebe Sottingridge - Fri, 19 May 2017 01:57:52 EST ID:K4DwwT9K No.135347 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135339
If you're trying to knock yourself out during opi WDs I recommend combining doxylamine with your benzos. I had 50mg of diazepam with no benzo tolerance and it didn't knock me out at all. tried 20mg and 50mg of doxylamine and I was out like a light. Also seroquel is good if you really need sleep.
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Sophie Gurryville - Tue, 23 May 2017 18:57:13 EST ID:UghBpr5k No.135399 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135347
> I recommend combining doxylamine
hell yeah, it's so much better than benadryl w/r/t sleep
make sure it's something like unisom tabs instead of fucking APAP loaded nyquil cocktail bullshit. ( sent with love from /dis/ )
i only break out the seroquel for amphetamine comedowns


New to Benzos - Halp by Matilda Mundernotch - Fri, 12 May 2017 15:26:45 EST ID:yTS6YUB7 No.135274 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I took 1 mg around 10:30 am EST to see what it was like. This is my first dose. Right now, (3:35 p.m.) I feel nice, but not fucked up or anything.

Would it be safe for me to have a beer at this point, or do you really black out that easily from benzos + alcohol?

Sorry if this is a stupid question, just wondering.
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Charlotte Demmerdark - Fri, 12 May 2017 19:14:30 EST ID:i09u2z38 No.135280 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Benzos have a very strong delusion of sobriety. Don't redose and definitely don't mix with alcohol. If you black out there's a chance you'll wake up days later with an empty bottle of xanax, or you'll start drinking and won't wake up at all.

Prepare to be disappointed if you're doing this for recreation. Just use the shit for anxiety and stop giving the drug a bad reputation.
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Charlotte Demmerdark - Fri, 12 May 2017 19:37:46 EST ID:i09u2z38 No.135282 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135280
Meant to add to the end of this post;

Before you make any decisions about anything, always remind yourself that you're not as sober as you think you are. 1mg is definitely enough for the effects to be in full swing, don't assume that you have some high natural tolerance because you don't.
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Shitting Tootfield - Tue, 16 May 2017 02:49:24 EST ID:1/Dg7nv+ No.135312 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>135280
>>135282

I wouldn't say benzos are disappointing recreationally. But, I do agree with your points, especially:

>you are not as sober as you think you are
this. make it a habit to open notepad.exe or a sticky note or some shit and write the time and amount of benzo you have taken when you dose. This has helped me avoid problems when wanting to redose, as memory can become fucked up. Write it down when you do it, keep it handy for yourself, be safe with these and remember:

>YOU ARE ON MIND ALTERING DRUGS

SLAYER to all >>135280
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John Turveylock - Thu, 18 May 2017 21:20:25 EST ID:a/zc4exr No.135343 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135312
Generally they're pretty disappointing to people who don't have legitimate anxiety disorders. It's like a clean drunk feeling but half the fun of being drunk is the dirtiness. If you have anxiety it can be euphoric simply because it lifts such a heavy weight off your shoulders that you can't help but smile and be happy. Most normal people that I personally know that try to take benzos say it makes them just feel dumb and tired and they don't even want to try it again.

I'm sure there are exceptions to this of course. Seriously though if you want to get high just smoke some weed. Even /opi/ is a better option.
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Reuben Nubblesudging - Mon, 22 May 2017 17:33:57 EST ID:9wUtj5LG No.135383 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135343
I agree. The first time I took 1mg of prescribed klonopin I literally cried because of how much stress was relieved off my mind.


Русское поле экспериментов by Shit Brurringstone - Wed, 17 May 2017 16:40:54 EST ID:lAjjZa8F No.135327 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Well, I just soluted ~200mg of gabapentin in a so-called "korvalol" (a mixture of phenobarbital, ethanol and peppermint oil). Surprisingly, but it doesn't turned me into a mindless zombie as I've expected. I feel a mild relaxation and a dry mounth.
My previsious experiments with barbiturates wasn't so softcore, however. Maybe you, my sweet GABA-b agonist addicts, know how many of "korvalol", water and gabapentin is needed for a mild sedative effect?
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Shit Brurringstone - Wed, 17 May 2017 16:48:02 EST ID:lAjjZa8F No.135329 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Oh, and a list of ingridients of "corvalol" (100ml):
ethanol: 79ml
peppermint oil: 0,142g
phenobarbi: 1,826g (yeah, a lot)
ethylbromisovalerinate: 2g
caustic soda: 0,022g


Wtf I love Xanax now? by Esther Chommlesene - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 13:30:31 EST ID:qEQU3ER9 No.135000 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Tried like single pill from a homie and it felt like that's how life should be regularly. It's not a full on, exaggerated happiness like MDMA but a subtle and elegant whilst maintaining my sobriety. Idk, it feels like I shouldn't have a supply near me because I know I would get addicted.

General xanax thread? I just want to hear you fiends talk about it
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Frederick Puckleson - Wed, 10 May 2017 15:55:10 EST ID:6PktEwMj No.135223 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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xans give you relief if you have anxiety so if you do have anx xans are super addictive like they are for me
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High Strung - Wed, 10 May 2017 15:57:50 EST ID:/YluKyww No.135225 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I used to be prescribed Xanax, but switched to Klonopin when I realized that 1) my tolerance was going up way too high and 2) I always end up falling asleep about an hour after taking it.
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Frederick Puckleson - Wed, 10 May 2017 16:43:41 EST ID:6PktEwMj No.135230 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135225
just got to take half a xan a few times a day and get used to it
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Oliver Dindlenod - Fri, 12 May 2017 20:30:21 EST ID:/YluKyww No.135284 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135230

0.5mg Alprazolam does nothing for me. It's gotta be at least 1.5mg....... I feel great for a few hours but then it's NAP TIME MOTHERFUCKERS
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Dr. Katz - Wed, 17 May 2017 11:20:30 EST ID:diaoYtIY No.135325 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>135000
Alprazolam is a great benzo for the short-term treatment of panic disorder. However, tolerance, rebound anxiety due to a short duration and fast onset, short half-life, and the potential for redosing (also as a result of the short duration) greatly outweigh the pros.
Media hype and advertising made Xanax famous - the most prescribed benzo in the U.S. today, even. But the drug doesn't hold a candle to many other benzos for medicinal and recreational purposes.

Diazepam is king for a reason


Benzo Porn by TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 15:59:45 EST ID:9BCcSDoL No.134792 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Benzo Porn

220mg of clonazepam 2mg pills
Have several bottles of 500mg clonazepam and decided to see how much was in "uknown" bottle

Lost track after 220mg but made a nice picture!
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Priscilla Birrylock - Thu, 11 May 2017 14:25:07 EST ID:fN35fZrJ No.135253 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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DICKS EVERYWHERE
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Ian Fublinghit - Thu, 11 May 2017 18:15:58 EST ID:KbwvUa40 No.135258 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134813
crazy shit

never heard of those before
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Fiend !!1C9jE+w+ - Tue, 16 May 2017 14:50:45 EST ID:wczNLl3U No.135315 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>134792
750mg Diazepam; all my favorite powder blue TEVAs. I have more in my Rx bottle, But this is my guaranteed exttas. I also probably have ~100mg in 5mg pills but they're not as photogenic.
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driven !FTPgBqDDy. - Tue, 16 May 2017 22:01:57 EST ID:E98o4cg0 No.135321 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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this is upwards of 1500
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driven !FTPgBqDDy. - Tue, 16 May 2017 22:02:51 EST ID:E98o4cg0 No.135322 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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but this is my best one. such a comfy pic


clonazepam by Reuben Hittingdurk - Tue, 09 May 2017 10:33:43 EST ID:d4SvmzH6 No.135184 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm seriously considering getting addicted to clonazepam.
So far, I have tried Diazepam, Lorazepam, Flunitrazepam and clonazepam, the latter being my favorite.
How stupid of an idea is this?

Unfortunately, taking clonazepam solves literally all of my problems. I'm not too scared to leave the house anymore, I get enough sleep, I don't have panic attacks, I'm not too frightened of people to talk to them anymore. I could even imagine kicking my heroin habit and going back to school (which I dropped out of due to anxiety), if I were to take clonazepam regularly instead. I barely even notice that I'm psychotic anymore, when I've taken some.

But I hear that withdrawal is really bad. And I'm pretty sure, that it wouldn't be particularly heathly. What are the long-term effects of clonazepam-use? How stupid would I become?
How quickly would I develop a tolerance to it, and would it stop working altogehter at some point? Is it true, that doctors have to prescribe benzos to you, if you're addicted, since withdrawal can be deadly? Would I be allowed to take them with me, if I were to travel to a foreign country? Any and all countries?

What else is there to consider?
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Hannah Snodville - Wed, 10 May 2017 07:39:19 EST ID:uQnMBIEd No.135211 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This might be the stupidest post i have ever seen. Benzo addiction is a fresh hell, eventually your dose will be to stave of withdrawal not for theraputic purposes. Also benzos arent meant to be used as a magic fix all my life problems pill, like most psychiatric medication, its most effective in combination with counseling. Sort your shit out man.
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Charles Wommerford - Fri, 12 May 2017 04:53:25 EST ID:s0VqynCV No.135266 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>135184
hey OP you seem like a dumb little shit so I'll go ahead and put the meat at the top: bad idea.

If you're wondering why my opinion matters, it matters because I'm on /benz/ at 2 AM because I can't sleep but it doesn't matter because I have nothing to do in the morning because *drumroll* dropped out of school due to anxiety and now I don't leave the house. Sound familiar?
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Shit Fondlestock - Fri, 12 May 2017 08:06:44 EST ID:K4DwwT9K No.135267 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135184
>I barely even notice that I'm psychotic anymore

Do you mean legitimate psychosis? If so benzos are really not the ideal treatment and benzo withdrawals will dangerously amplify symptoms of psychotic illnesses.
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Brain - Fri, 12 May 2017 08:43:46 EST ID:p3Y5bzHa No.135269 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>135266
Stupid. I'm like poster above, quit school cause anxiety and 2 great jobs. Yea shit helps but if you become dependent you are in a lower place on the ladder again.

Now I've been stagnating hard doping myself up all day. Trying to get employed even at some trash job proves difficult when I haven't worked since January.


The Man lies to America! by Reuben Worrytitch - Thu, 11 May 2017 07:47:22 EST ID:lAjjZa8F No.135246 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Well, I took my usual daily norm of 25 drops of Korvalol (c) (r) (tm) [ЭТo БaРБИТУРaТЫ Сo СПИРТoМ НaХУЙ], 300g of bad whiskey and 7,2g of gabapentin.
And guess what? There will be another day where nothing bad will happen since I've done it before.
RUSSIA IS GREAT, WAR IN CHECHNYA WAS A GREAT IDEA
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Reuben Worrytitch - Thu, 11 May 2017 08:22:06 EST ID:lAjjZa8F No.135247 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ну и дa, я хoтeл спрoсить у вaс:
Are Z-drugs are barbis such as phenobarbatal without all those stuff because of we hate barbis? They look like are perfect pills for sleepin' other the hangover!
Some people say what you will fall into delirium a-la Dimedroll (russian DPH!/Dicyclomine) or Taren (USSR deliriant used to see the Infernal Stalin)


Lorazepam questions by Caroline Chummerhat - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 17:11:25 EST ID:P0pnndxS No.134049 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I recently acquired some really small white pills with a score line on one side and an "A" on the other. Apparently it's Ativan (Lorazepam) can anyone confirm?

Aside from that my experience with benzos has been mostly limited to kpins, Etizolam and I had a hookup for Diazepam for an extremely short amount of time (oh how I miss that). It's been a couple months since I indulged, what kinda dosage should I be taking to feelsgoodman
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John Sarrystone - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 13:01:51 EST ID:v6PJQ+77 No.134067 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Did you google the pill id?
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Eliza Bardwell - Thu, 11 May 2017 00:51:45 EST ID:6PktEwMj No.135241 Ignore Report Quick Reply
it is
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Nigel Buzzford - Thu, 11 May 2017 03:42:08 EST ID:K4DwwT9K No.135242 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134049
Not even a photo? Come on man.
nb


is etizeals horrible in quality by seriouslyserious - Tue, 09 May 2017 16:48:45 EST ID:Hijfshgt No.135196 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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heard the etizeals are absolute garbage - is this true?
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Frederick Puckleson - Wed, 10 May 2017 16:45:48 EST ID:6PktEwMj No.135231 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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whats that is it like etizolam


Neurontin by Martha Dendlehone - Thu, 04 May 2017 20:19:07 EST ID:paeA0zak No.135109 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How bad of an idea is it to mix this with alcohol?

I am posting this here because well it's both active and the most sensible board to post to, as I am quite certain many /benz/ users are or have been semi functional alcoholics and/or been prescribed this.

Will it cause severe side effects or possibly damage me? I am meaning organ damage, brain death, cellular damage, kidney and liver impairments etc.

Also will it just generally fuck me up pretty hard? And more importantly, if I drink on GABApentin (which seriously for most of us is the same class as GABAergics like benzos, Z drugs, and alcohol even if this one isn't quite the same) will it impair me the next day? I rarely if ever have hangovers but I have never done this before and want to know if it's safe to do. I don't want to have a couple beers and wake up at noon slurring my speech.

I also of course don't wish to black out or act like a raging dickhead the way most of us probably do or have experienced at least once after the brilliant plan on benzing while drinking, followed immediately by blackouts and possibly cops or waking up surrounded by mysteriously broken shit and possibly an attempt to turn a microwave broken tv set pair of car batteries and a piece of rock into a time machine. So yeah I don't want that either.
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Polly Neffingshit - Mon, 08 May 2017 08:34:21 EST ID:Akf9EXdq No.135163 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's generally not a good idea to mix GABAergics. If you do decide to do it, start out with a low dose of gabapentin while taking it slow with the alcohol, and gradually up the dose on separate occasions you're mixing them to figure out where your sweet spot is rather than upping your dose while you're already high; that's asking for a blackout
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Sidney Dusslepen - Tue, 09 May 2017 22:03:51 EST ID:GH8SG5DK No.135203 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135163
gabapentin is not really a gabaergic. it goes well with alcohol, should take any negative effects and increase buzz. gabapentin is nice for hangovers too. only thing bad i know about gabapentin is a study that says it prevents new nerve synapses forming, which is why i wont use it anymore. other than that its a great fun therapeutic drug.
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Frederick Puckleson - Wed, 10 May 2017 16:03:51 EST ID:6PktEwMj No.135226 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I wouldn't mix a lot
maybe 1 or 2 pills with a glass of wine. you might feel sick but just throw up and you'll feel alright


am i gonna be ok by 283742384weird - Tue, 09 May 2017 16:45:17 EST ID:Hijfshgt No.135195 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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is mixing 4mg of etizolam with 10mg hydrocodon gonna kill me?
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seriouslyserious - Tue, 09 May 2017 17:43:03 EST ID:Hijfshgt No.135198 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135197

what about 8 mg etiz

20 mg hydrocodon?


is it just suboxonoe you can OD if you do it with etiz?
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Dr. Katz - Tue, 09 May 2017 18:53:56 EST ID:lA5jsxrh No.135199 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135198
I've never specifically heard of subs and etiz leading to overdose.
Benzos + suboxone can lead to an overdose, but it isn't etizolam specific.

I've had plenty of combos with benzos, booze, opiates, muscle relaxers, and alcohol. The key is to understand what you are and aren't tolerant of, keeping dosages low, and monitoring your breathing. I don't advise this combo to anyone though.
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Samuel Bliblingson - Wed, 10 May 2017 04:14:45 EST ID:K4DwwT9K No.135207 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135198
No one can give you an absolute answer on at what point it would be fatal without knowing your tolerance to each class of drugs. Even if we assume you have zero tolerance to either individual variation is great. LD50 is the dose that kills 50% of subjects etc etc.
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Samuel Bliblingson - Wed, 10 May 2017 04:15:55 EST ID:K4DwwT9K No.135208 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>135198
Also, any opioid drug can be fatal in combination with benzos it's very much not suboxone specific either.
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Frederick Puckleson - Wed, 10 May 2017 15:57:29 EST ID:6PktEwMj No.135224 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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you'll definitely be fine just wouldn't ix anymore if your not used to it. you should feel badass tho


U fucking wot america by Fucking Woggleford - Fri, 14 Apr 2017 10:28:06 EST ID:bIw980nB No.134848 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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http://katv.com/news/local/firms-object-to-drug-use-in-arkansas-executions

>Using Midazolam for lethal injections
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Fri, 14 Apr 2017 11:31:10 EST ID:XEz5cUbM No.134849 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134848
Generally it's a three drug process for stabdard lethal injection, for anesthesia the most common drugs were barbiturates, but as the availability of these drugs became scarce due to decline/stopping of production many states have looked to using Midazolam in the role of the 'first drug" to produce anesthesia.

The issue is using Midazolam as a stand in barbiturate, but even then the most common cocktail seems to be midazolam, propofol, and a strong opoid.

Honestly, from a medical view, I'd support the usage of midazolam over barbiturates as its more predictable.
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Dr. Katz - Fri, 14 Apr 2017 16:26:45 EST ID:fxIkwqoW No.134854 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't see an issue with midazolam as one of the components of lethal injections, OP. Why do you see it as a problem?

>>134849
I strongly second this.
There's a reason why barbs were replaced by benzos.
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Simon Bunridge - Sun, 16 Apr 2017 08:11:14 EST ID:K4DwwT9K No.134874 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134854
Weren't barbs replaced primarily due to benzos' superior safety profile? Seems kind of counterproductive where death is the desired outcome.
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Dr. Katz - Sun, 16 Apr 2017 13:07:45 EST ID:8xenG9hK No.134878 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134874
Absolutely. Barbs have a relatively low range of dosing before one will overdose. Benzos are much safer on their own.
As for death being the desired outcome, the midazolam is just to knock the individual out before the other drugs are administered. Combining moderate doses of benzos with high doses of opiates can cause respiratory failure anyways.
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Frederick Puckleson - Wed, 10 May 2017 15:48:12 EST ID:6PktEwMj No.135221 Ignore Report Quick Reply
quick easy death. seems efficient. that's how i would wanna go. no lie


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