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help plox by matthew burton - Fri, 07 Apr 2017 20:53:40 EST ID:tsx8Auh1 No.134784 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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i think I'm addicted to valleys, the msj ones, can someone help me.

pic related its me feeding my addiction. i seriously need help
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 16:12:10 EST ID:9BCcSDoL No.134793 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134784
Need more info

Dosage? Frequency ? Use of stimulants? Use or rx of other gabergicss (booze, thienos (etiz, brotiz), do you have access to a medical professional? Was your usage rx abuse/dependancy or street?

Either way benzo wd is a long drawn out, uncomfortable, and potentially life threatening.

DO NOT cold turkey, this greatly increases your risk of seizure, and would neccesitate professional medical help.

Honestly, no detox off benzodiazepines should be done without medical supervision, that being said, if you have a working knowledge of pharmacology and access to the proper tools and resources it is possible to self-taper (I wouldn't advise playing with your life ).

Sources such as The Ashton Manual and others are extremely knowledgable sources on the subject, but once again it is strongly advised not to taper from serious usage unsupervised.


Xanax + alcohol + safety by Lydia Drazzlehurk - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 21:24:25 EST ID:hsJczLVT No.134774 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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sup /benz/

My girlfriend is prescribed Xanax and wants to take enough Xanax + alcohol to go unconscious for a fantasy of hers. I want to be safe. What are some important things to know here? Is there a safer way for her to go unconscious?
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Dr. Katz - Fri, 07 Apr 2017 10:18:46 EST ID:fxIkwqoW No.134778 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134774
We need more info, OP. Until then, this just isn't something safe to engage in.
I thought this post was straight up trolling at first, but now I think you aren't referring to your girlfriend but you're referring to yourself instead. Either way, a small amount of alprazolam on its own can make someone blackout. Adding alcohol into the mix just creates room for dangerous situations. Respiratory failure is possible, but you/your girlfriend are more likely to black out and do something leading to injury/jail rather than being hospitalized for an overdose.

nb
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Fri, 07 Apr 2017 15:47:18 EST ID:baWA5M8l No.134780 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>134776
Dude your pics are funny as fuck. Why aren't we friends on social media? Seriously I get 10 closed private groups worth of juicy memes daily and nobody can compete with you. Nobody.
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Fri, 07 Apr 2017 15:48:20 EST ID:baWA5M8l No.134781 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134776
Oh yeah and where's your new job? Glad that worked out for you.
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Hugh Cuzzlefure - Fri, 07 Apr 2017 21:06:54 EST ID:mfOqCuYz No.134785 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134774
your girlfriend's retarded and so are you
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Phoebe Maffingfudge - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 07:33:10 EST ID:f917Rzvd No.134789 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134774

Don't even try. Usually people who "black out " are lucid and remember it at the time, it's the next day where all the memory's are gone.


Benzos: The Reality by Oliver Closhfuck - Mon, 03 Apr 2017 07:04:32 EST ID:MCrghN7Y No.134707 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I don't care if you don't want to listen to someone who may put a damper on your mood, although downers tend to take away much fucks given as it is, but at least a handful of people may want to or need to hear this.

I have not taken any benzos for around a year now, I am 28 years old. I first took a benzo recreationally when I was probably at the age of 17. I only fully got into them at around age 22. I have always suffered some form of anxiety disorder diagnosed first at age 12 with extreme hypochondria and then later as general anxiety, so naturally benzos were so appealing to me as they wiped away any kind of care of anxiety that I had.

Several months into my addiction I was popping upwards of 200mg of Diazapine a day as my tolerance both physically and mentally kept skyrocketing. That's the thing, you start off with a wonderful pill that takes away all of your worries and 'fixes things' when in fact it simply covers up your issues so that they can grow and become even more twisted to eventually resurface, and trust me they will come back to bite you sooner or later. It happens to nearly 100% of long term users that they grow such a tolerance that the pills will not work for you anymore and thus you will need to take higher and higher doses. Physical addiction can take up to around 6 months of daily use but can occur within as little as 6 weeks. For me it was closer to 6 weeks but I had been taking them for a couple of years before I wanted to get off of the benzo-train.

Getting off is very very difficult indeed. I didn't know shit when I first tried so I cold turkey'd a benzo addiction that was 200mg valium daily strong, and ended up in hospital luckily, not dead. The seizure could have been worse though. It then took me several more attempts of tapering to finally get off of them. When you taper you will go through a list of over 100 possible symptoms ranging from uncomfortable to sheer hell.
>you can check out the Dr Ahston manual online for everything about tapering or simply Google it, but the Ashton Manual is the best resource for benzo addiction imo.

Now that I have been clean for around a year I have slowly come to realise a few things about life and benzos.
Firstly it literally stopped me from growing in life. By that I mean that looking back my business that I run pretty much did nothing the entire time, and now that I am clean it is blowing up. I am working out in the gym and I wish I would have done back when I was like 23 not 28, it takes a long time to grow any decent amount of muscle. My relationships were all kinds of fucked whilst I was using benzos and thus I lost a lot of friends, a gf and nearly a sister. I nearly died countless times due to accidents and what not, and yeah looking back I can see just how fucked up my life was because I simply was ignoring my inner issues and trying to cover them up with benzos.

The main reason for me taking them was anxiety, and the funny thing is that towards the end of my use I was having just as bad anxiety if not worse whilst on them; they become counter-productvie. I have since then dealt with my anxiety head on with using meditation and mindful awareness, seeing that yeah standing in a line at the store can be hell but the anxiety will lessen and lessen and less with time. Breathing techniques etc help a lot, and having a body which is clean of benzos really helps.

Most people with daily use of benzos will see a full on physical and mental addiction, not all but most, that is the reality. And I have taken many different drugs in my teens and 20s both as prescribed and recreationally, ranging from stims, even crack ffs, psychedelics, opiates etc, and benzos fucked me up the most physicality and mentally. So if you are someone who is just starting to use benzos as a means to get over anxiety, remember that your anxiety is still going to be there in 2 months time, 1 years time, even 10 years from now if you keep ignoring it and covering it up with pills. My anxiety is a lot less at a 'baseline' level but it is still there. However I cannot even explain how fucking good it feels to be able to walk out of my house and speak to people like a semi-normal human being without dying of anxiety. Do yourself a favour and really think about what you are doing with your life.
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Nigel Niddlekare - Mon, 03 Apr 2017 16:42:58 EST ID:j8zbbMG+ No.134711 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134709
name one type of drug (other than opioids and barbs) that are more effective than benzos for anxiety. i don't think it is realistic to take benzos everyday, (though i still do) for the rest of your life, because of tolerance. but shit like ssris are a joke.
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Archie Cinnerhork - Mon, 03 Apr 2017 22:22:53 EST ID:8OxSb1rC No.134716 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134711
Benzos should never be prescribed for daily use under any circumstances. As far as treating anxiety in the short term they probably are most ideal but there is such a risk that the user will end up taking them daily because they work so well. When this happens, the final and end result of being physically addicted is worse than the initial anxiety situation, a lot worse in fact for various reasons which I stated in the OP.

I tried to tackle my anxiety with other substances and I just ended up making things worse as well. The only real effective way to deal with annuity is to literally deal with it, face it and confront it with a clear mind and logical thinking. Therapy, mindfulness and meditation can al help. I thought I would never be able to walk down the street with confidence as apposed to looking at the floor scared of anybody even giving me a glance let alone talk to me. But people want easy quick solutions to everything and severe anxiety disorders simply cannot be fixed like that.
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Cedric Fanstone - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 23:01:58 EST ID:N57JZgZX No.134767 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134707
Yeah, sometimes the paradoxical effect (most often I see it caused by Clonazepam...it shuts down those temporal lobes hardcore, it's a seizure med also rememebr). Anyway even if what you were taking mostly wasn't clonazepam, I have felt sometimes strange increased anxiety from benzos, but not too often. It did make me start not taking shit and I lost a lot of friends when I had my dose bumped to 2mg twice a day of Rivotril (clonaz), but it was all justified in my freebase smoking and benzo taking mind, I had issues with people I thought only were my friends due to my "connections", because I could get them weed, LSD etc., some became close to be my closest friends, then sometime I just stopped calling them, all of them no matter how into drugs or just slight potheads. I said, if they really give a shit, they'll contact me. Well, some did, through msn messenger back then in 2009, and I know where I stand, one of my real friend I talk to once or twice a year, but I know if I was in trouble, I'd have his back, unlike the people whom I thought were my closest friends, including females who were just my friends...customers*ahem, when I was in my early years in college, only one of them who despite the sexual tension, we didn't do anything and that's for the best. It's not the amount of time spent with someone that matters when you're past your teens, it's when you know where you stand in relation to all of those people, I assure you at some point there was 4-5 girls inviting me to parties on fridays and saturdays, having to choose where I was gonna bring all that free MDMA and 2c-I and have them end up dancing topless over me while I was sitting with a beer and with my other friends in the place socializing with the others and nobody gave a shti since everyone was on MDMA, I was doing cardio for 25 minutes every day and I have a bench, the kind where you're sitting ya know, and I got ripped, the only place I still had a bit too much fat was in my upper legs...thighs I guess, I had no way of training these, the bench had a lot of things, but as for legs, it was the lower legs and pushing them upwards, at the selected weight where I'd do series...li…
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Reuben Besslekot - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 04:40:59 EST ID:MciwZ0En No.134787 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134711
well, it would be equal to barbs and hypnotic benzos, when Health Canada took away our barbs except for pheno (lammmmmmmmme) and butalbital (meh, ok if you get the Fiorinal C 1/2, C 1/4 have just 15mg of codeine, isn't enough to nullify the caffeine) in 2004, I was scripted 15 seconals, a year, by my doctor, for pre-exam stress/insomnia, I would go batshit insane because I got this disorder when you naturally get sleepy at 3-4-5am, when the sun comes up, delayed sleep onset disorder is what the sleep study, no studies said, I did 4 ffs. So he said, you only need something to put you to sleep early for exams at 8:20 am to noon? So from 2000 to 2004, one month before the outright removal of all barbs worth a shit, I was getting 15 seconals a year, and didn't abuse them, what an amazing tool, made it so I could actually show up and be awake normally, not trying to sleep all night and not managing to and going there with a fuzzy mind which caffeine just make jittery and either get a shit grade or fail. I passed every exam given to me in the morning, I had 15 a year so I was very careful, so in september 2004, my doctor says, it's the last time I can script you seconal,I'm sorry, all companies decided to stop producing them except a few that aren't good for sleep.

So he scripted me ethchlorvynol 600mg, huge, like really huge green gel pills, 15 a year..well he could only do so twice, in 2005 and 2006, the ban on the so aptly called "Placidyl" came in october or november 2006, so luckily semester started in late august so I got to see him and he said, sorry again, this one's going the way of the dodo too after this one refill.

Then I had to know benzos. Which, at one point wasn't bad, because I was prescribed hypnotics (temazepam or flurazepam, slept like a baby, but they were moreish even more so than Seconals, with Seconals in 5 minutes I'd pass out forgetting everything and waking up fresh 9 hours later or so, with temazepam, i'd sleep 6-8 hours perfectly, but it felt like something was missing, so I went on with the Dalmane, it was perfect, the long half-life did not bother me, took care of my then unmedicated GAD which I always managed to contr…
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Phoebe Maffingfudge - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 07:30:21 EST ID:f917Rzvd No.134788 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>134707

Yes, people definitely abuse them without even knowing. I read people on here taking a couple of pills like it's nothing. here is me taking less than 1/4th of a diazepam and feeling like I should not touch them for atleast a couple of weeks after that. I don't know how anyone can take a whole pill and not just mong out doing nothing.

I had a period where I was addicted and would wake up and take 6 pills, I knew it was bad at the time but the feeling of the drug masks that. When I stopped it was because my dealer was looking out for me and told me he had none left, gave me a couple to take and that was it. The worst depression of my life set on from there and I was unable to sleep for a few weeks. I don't think the depression has ever gone and that was a couple of years ago...
Don't fuck around with benz...
Saying that... I am sipping some diazepam solution atm because I have a stone over from last night and I know I will be socially awkward when i go out for lunch soon.

Follow some rules when you use benzo's
> Don't take them for more than 2 days in a row.
> Don't take more than a quarter of a pill (they have division lines for a reason)
> Only take them when you really need it, being a little worried about going out usually passes as soon as you get there and is not a good reason to use them.
> Don't fuck around with benzodiazepines just for fun...
> Be safe.


Etizolam as a replacement for Xanax/Ativan? by Edward Pockforth - Fri, 07 Apr 2017 20:37:02 EST ID:W7k3/65Y No.134783 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hi /benz/,

I've been taking Ativan and Xanax for a month straight, can i use Etizolam to taper?
I already feel some minor withdrawal symptoms, like anxiety and insomnia.


Halcion and grapefruit/white GFJ by Walter Wabberwill - Fri, 31 Mar 2017 19:59:30 EST ID:MciwZ0En No.134656 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I know it doesn't work with nitrobenzodiazepines such nitrazepam, clonazepam, also others like temazepam, oxazepam, flunitrazepam, you would think it worked with flunitrazolam, but *lam is no guarantee of making something that affects me for 2 hours if I take 2-3mg at once (alprazolam), when I eat a couple grapefruit or drink white gfj, two full glasses and then 20 minutes takes 2-3mg of alprazolam, it lasts all damn day and is way stronger.

Now, I got all of these yummy impossible to have in theory in Canada, there's only generic triazolam and it's almost impossible to get a script for it except for if you have a disease that's reducing your living expectancy considerably even with treatment (heart diseases, cancer) or by Health Canada guidance, a 7 day supply of either 0.125 or 0.25 for people who travel a lot for jet lag (consider we only had zolpidem introduced in late 2011 and it's not covered by many insurances and it's almost blotter thin and you have to sub it, they're sublingual pills, which taste like ass...they're not big on the Z-drugs here, my favourite one when we only had Imovane (zopiclone) and Starnoc (Zaleplon...which is now a compound pharmacy thing only, nobody markets it anymore, which sucks, it was the best z-drug for initiating sleep anyway).

So, I got the real shizzit here, brand name Pfizer Halcion 3 boxes exactly like this and 150 in total. I want to use the less possible for best effect, so does GFJ work with it, I looked a lot, even on pubmed and other places and it's not said what enzymes take care of it or if it goes straight to gluconisation like those I mentioned which are unaffected by it. Right now I have to .5mg to feel it kick my ass and it gives me the most silly euphoria a benzo didn't give me in a long time....I want to make this purchase last, wasn't very cheap lets say.
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Matilda Pickstock - Sun, 02 Apr 2017 21:03:34 EST ID:vAkG4VJz No.134703 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134696
I found a great in-between, just chewing a 0.25mg and suckling on it sublingually like if it was Suboxone gave me a huge rush of relief and the more I suckled hard, the harder it hit then when I felt a peak I too a swill of white gfj, which I've been drinking for 2 days non-stop, I love the shit, I got some Dexilant too in case my stomach disagrees with so much grapefruit intake. I feel amazing, only had 1 ½ blotter of clam in the morning and this one right now, I still feel the opiate-like rush in my arms and head. Definitely found the way to elevate its shitty oral BA (52%).
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Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Sun, 02 Apr 2017 23:05:15 EST ID:LD6HtI8w No.134704 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134703
WHY did you not snort it
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Cedric Fagglefoot - Tue, 04 Apr 2017 11:54:23 EST ID:N57JZgZX No.134730 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134704
I still have 130 pills, I do what I want.

Also I have nasal crust problems and I don't even snort stuff, nose gets full of crusty balls of blood, chronic sinusitis...constant need to put some kind of gel in it to prevent that from happening, I don't snort things that aren't water soluble, but I might do it once...although the way I did sublingually likely cannot be beaten other than if somehow one made an injectable version.
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Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Tue, 04 Apr 2017 17:09:44 EST ID:ANeyYnXW No.134736 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134730
No disrespect but you mentioned you considered grapefruit in order to make the pills last. I tell you a method to severely increase BA. It's true that you do what you want but don't you want to make the pills last longer?

>i don't snort things that aren't water soluble
Although the thought is commendable, chemistry (especially halogen based chemistry) is often filled with surprises in their polarity. bromo and chloro subsituted molecules often have various "quirks" about their polarity in respects to bioavailabilities and pharmokinetics.
In dogs, it has a 98% triazolam intranasal bioavailability compared to under 60% oral. It is recorded to be better absorbed intranasal vs oral than even midazolam. Sometimes, things just happen.

With respects to your nasal issue, you can get rid of the balls by lowering nasal irritation. Grind up the pills and put them either in a nasal spray bottle or an oral syringe and slowly drip them into your nose. This is what I do to consume intranasal drugs if required.
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Cedric Fanstone - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 22:38:35 EST ID:N57JZgZX No.134766 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134736
So does that mean one can snort bromazepam? I'll give it a try, I got a buttload left of syringes from when I was giving myself a shot of Delatestryl (testosterone) due to my slightly lower than normal testosterone for my age, but I stopped when I got bad side effects, but if I was to have a normal opiate tolerance, meaning, no fucking suboxone in me and I could get some Dilaudid 4's and 8's, I'd be back right at it heh, but yeah I got about 90 27 1/2 BT syringes, so I guess I could switch the tip with an oral syringe tip, I got 2 of those, but no actual oral syringe, dunno why, it's what's in my safe...I'll give it a try, but really sublingual and wgfj increases BA incredibly, I'd say up to 90% at least, the sublingual part that is.


Xanax by Charlotte Dondermadge - Mon, 03 Apr 2017 21:29:45 EST ID:WxS+mtPY No.134715 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What's wrong with alprazolam?
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George Pankinfuck - Tue, 04 Apr 2017 15:35:06 EST ID:JQXGHlyv No.134735 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sorry for the tl;dr (I skimmed most of it), but basically the downsides are physical dependence and "rebound anxiety"?

I have 1000 of these and I ntend on tapering near the end, nothing else I should be worried about?
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George Fandernidging - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 17:51:07 EST ID:VpoAxZLc No.134747 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>134731
Yo Doc. I remember the first time we drank the nasty grapefruit juice. Hope you're doing well.

Anyway, I come to you because I have a question about this only you would know the answer. Can WGFJ potentiate diazepam as well, and does the ability to potentiate have a cap at a certain amount, say, two cups or something? Also, what is the effect of the tonic water? (I have trouble getting that shit down).
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 22:09:53 EST ID:9BCcSDoL No.134760 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134747
I do know the answer to the first, but I'm not Katz.
It would potentiate diazepam, and I'm not sure if there is a ceiling dosage although I know there is a minimum.

The effect of tonix water should be minimal (I may be mistaken) assuming it doesnt alter the absorption of the wgf. It may delay the time frame perhaps as it's dilluted.

Ive only used WGF once to potentiate but I love that shit in general and you sir dislike the best fruit juice that exists.
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Cedric Fanstone - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 22:15:59 EST ID:N57JZgZX No.134762 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134760
Yes, it works with diazepam, and diazepam's metabolites....it takes out some of the punch, you feel it gradually settling in and graduall settling out, works but not as useful compared to alp. Others I know that work with it would be Librium, flubromazolam (holy shit does it work with that one) and a bit with bromazepam.
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Cedric Fanstone - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 22:25:23 EST ID:N57JZgZX No.134764 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134735
Yeah, start taking 75% of your dose when you got like 250 left, then 50% when you have 125, and 25% for the rest. Good luck.


Terrence McKenna was a Sexy Elf by plsfuckmyface - Tue, 04 Apr 2017 22:54:08 EST ID:v7eZlCfg No.134737 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hello drug dooers
I have really severe anxiety and depression and I want to go back on my meds. I also feel that benzos would be good for me since I suffer from borderline personality disorder and often get really anxious and act out sexually, dissociate, and become verbally combative with loved ones to see how far they'll go to prove they love me. I know its fucked up, but I only have control over myself when I'm not in that feelmode. I feel that xanax or something might help, but I dont want to go into the appointment straight out asking for any kind of anti-anxiety medication, get flagged as an addict, and told to fuck off back into my isolating hell.
what are your experiences here with these things? is anyone here just having fun with a legit script or ? sorry if im a retard or something, I usually only go on /psy/ and /del/.
i have had a legitimate script for prozac, welbutrin, and risperdal (lmfao mantits) in the past, but went off the medication becuase I dissociate and probably have really bad add too. my parents fucked me up.

much love
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Nicholas Chocklehidge - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 10:10:18 EST ID:SxKZPs1y No.134739 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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try propranolol first, its a beta blocker which will chill out ur sympathetic nervous system w/o fucking you up and getting you addicted like benzos or zs
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 12:27:36 EST ID:9BCcSDoL No.134740 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134737
I'm diagnosed with MDD mixed Episodes, and GAD (general anxiety ), and have have dated two girls with BPD. I was rxd 4mg clonazepam and 2mg lorazepam and both wanted to use my rx for the reasons you described and because I tended not to touch them.

Said no to both. First one tried stealing from me and due to the lack of inhibitions caused by benzos + tolerance, fucked up her life and got addicted.

Second was a phd student and understood my rationalization that although benzodiazepines can dull the intense feelings.

She ended up solving her problems throught dbt and for was rxd a small amount of lorazepam for about two weeks during crisis.

Idk I've also spokeb with alot of mental health professionals, seems like theres an inherent stigma to BPD and long term use of narcotics (I'm sure this goes by a case by case basis), the majority seem to like using some form of ssri/snri + neuroleptic.

Mind you this is all personal experience, the first girl I knew was more or less brushed off and viewed as uncooperative to treatment because they wanted benzos, the second they tentatively sort of went with (but to be honest one was 19 the other 26 so like I said varies by age.

Regardless of dx, I'd say try avoiding narcotics and utilizing all other toolz to manage anxiety before turning to benzodiazepines. It's not a fun train to get off of.

I've been on most of those meds youre rxd, (although not currently) personally I hated risperidal and from a pharmacological standpoint find it a hard pill to swallow.
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Cedric Fanstone - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 22:11:03 EST ID:N57JZgZX No.134761 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134740
My psychiatrist knows I'm Bipolar so no antidepressants for me, the last one I gave a try, Paxil, made me a manic maniac who didn't sleep, eat, spit on his then girlfriend for 30 minutes until she called the cops and well, it fucked my life. I rather be in my very slow cycling bipolar mode. Clonazepam was chosen after lamotrigine had me puking my guts out (had a valium 10mg a day dose with it), carbamazepine made me itch so bad I almost got Stevens-Johnson syndrome, so my neurologist said, here have clonazepam 1mg twice a day for 3 months, enough time to see my psychiatrist and he agreed and I was bumped to 2mg twice a day. Of course I had to go there every 6 months to talk about my life for 30 minutes with the guy blah blah blah, he was surprised when I had documented a valium taper and presented it to him, saying I got the data from Dr.Ashton the world renowned british psychisatrist when it comes to benzo tapering with either valium or librium. He accepted, but I couldn't go lower than 20mg valium a day, which is still 2/3 less inhibition of the benzo gaba-a subcomplex...got a better memory instantly, and drinking a 6 pack every day helped keeping at that dosage for a long time. Now I don't drink because I got old and I hurt myself really bad neck-wise and also some arthritic destruction of my left jaw bone like if i I was 50-60, so I was prescribed opiates by a doctor who retired on me without warning, I knew he was old, but I never thought of asking him when he was going to retire so that I would go and look for another one, thankfully circumstances made it so I found a personal doctor through a bloodwork the old man had me take and at my last appointment with him, he told me, go at this guy's clinic, he's a Men's Health Specialist and also a family doctor. Bingo. The guy prescribes me Temazepam 30mg x 30 a month and bromazepam 6mg twice a day without my psychiatrist knowing about it since I signed a waiver that I didn't want to be part of this data sharing Provincial Health Dossier. Fuck you government. So I went to another pharmacy close to my home and opened an account there and that was it. And the Suboxone clinic knows of the diazepam but that's it, …
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 22:20:40 EST ID:9BCcSDoL No.134763 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134761
Borderline (imo) is pretty interesting out of the axis 2, especially as it's changed in the dsm 2 times in 10 years and going for a third.

I was treated for Bipolar type 2 for five years as mixed MDD means you get hypomaia but no mood elevation just anhedonia.

Ive been lucky enough to have went through those meds as well and thank god I didn't roll the dice and get SJS (I knew the odds were strongly against going in)

The mental health systen is annoying. Got beat up for my race by a gang memeber at the hospital once i do some advocacy stuff on the side and board of directors for one group.

Are you OP? I thought the initial post was Borderline Personality Disorder not Bipolar Disorder.
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Cedric Fanstone - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 22:28:14 EST ID:N57JZgZX No.134765 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134763
Nah not OP. nb


Tetrazepam by Hannah Hunnerfark - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 07:54:39 EST ID:pto15eRG No.134500 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hello /benz/ I just found a packet of Tetrazepam at home,
I know that it used to be prescribed here (Germany) and that it's practically unheard of in America but I was just wondering wheter or not any of you benzo-heads have any info on it regarding its recreational value.

I will take them anyways but I was interested in hearing extra information on this benzo that I personally never heard of.
Peace
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Cornelius Brookway - Sun, 02 Apr 2017 07:26:17 EST ID:PC/93yMu No.134698 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134670
Hey OP here,

I am not a very anxious person usually but I took two before a party to ease my light social anxiety and to make me more outgoing.

They definitely helped, if just a little bit, but still I felt more at ease than I usually do at parties even though I knew nobody there.
My experience with benzos is limited to diazepam, alprazolam and now tetrazepam, so I am not as knowledgeable as some of the posters here but I wouldn't recommend using them to deal with social anxiety since the muscle relaxation could get in the way of your everyday life ( I spent most of the party on benches, sofas and chairs), especially if you have to do physical work, but that's just my opinion.

PS: In retrospect I wouldn't call it outright unrecreational, it definitely got me high and the muscle relaxation was extremely comfortable, especially after a workout and in combination with alcohol and weed.

PPS: I read online that it has a pretty long half-life, similar to Diazepam, so taking one in the afternoon might allow you to enjoy its anxiolytic properties all throughout the next day while you can stay at home when the drugs effects are peaking, but I don’t know if that would work for you.

Peace
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Ernest Battinglutch - Sun, 02 Apr 2017 10:04:40 EST ID:vAkG4VJz No.134699 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134692
They don't have it as rx over there.
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Martin Blackspear - Tue, 04 Apr 2017 10:36:23 EST ID:fsuw9knB No.134725 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah this was my first Benzo I think.
Stole it from a tetraplegic person while working as a nurse, fuck it she had more than enough.
Took 2, drank some beers and enjoyed my wobbly legs. Great muscle relaxant!
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Cedric Fagglefoot - Tue, 04 Apr 2017 11:42:16 EST ID:N57JZgZX No.134726 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134725
Yeah man, I constantly drink white grapefruit juice and then sub 0.25mg and it's more than enough to send me into a kind of rush close to opiates, the kind I only got from etizolam blotter of very high quality where 3 that I would suckle on really hard, and I could feel it getting more intense by everytime some got absorbed under my tongue. Feels amazing man, I'm so glad I have like 130 of these still lol.
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Cedric Fagglefoot - Tue, 04 Apr 2017 11:43:52 EST ID:N57JZgZX No.134727 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134726

Ah, I thought it was the triazolam thread, see how benzed how I am heh. Anyway, I wish we had it, just for common sprains and shit, it's how it's prescribed in Portugal and Spain, your hurt yourself play soccer "here have a dozen tetrazepam".


Choices...such tough choices... by Jenny Humbleham - Tue, 04 Apr 2017 10:04:05 EST ID:V8F2QsIb No.134724 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Ok so I buy on a few clearnet pharmacies that sell benzos and even codeine at doses that matter and compound pharmacy 15mg hydrocodone only capsules. Never had an issue with any of them, they know how to pack their shit right, it's just slightly expensive if you don't buy what they have a lot in stock, like alprazolam, diazepam, nitrazepam, bromazepam, they have them in many brands and shit very cheap. So anyway, I can get a sample of 10 Flurazepam 30mg for 49 bucks (5 bucks more and I can get 100 Mylan-Alprazolam 1mg), I love flurazepam, but it's extremely cheap if you have a script here up north, it's like diazepam, oxazepam, temazepam, chlordiazepoxide cheap. Which annoys me, if I wanted a whole 30 pills it would be 139 USD...so no way, I want to try it again because the one month I had it because my pharmacy was out of temazepam 30mg caps for 3 weeks when I cam with my script renewal from the doctor, I called the doctor and he replaced it with 30x30mg Flurazepam...about 7.50 heh, generic, but who gives a fuck, it's likely because it's the brandname for where it comes from (I checked, it is, it's Dalmane in US, Canada, most places, but in that country it's Dalmadorm. If they had generics I'd go for that but I can't.

Or as I did before, pick me some brotizolam...which is fucking amazing, the thienotriazolobenzo... 0.25mg had me dreaming so peacefully, no night terrors like when I only rely on temazepam, which I need to take 2 at once to make it work, I'm about to ask the doctor to script me 15mg ones, but 3 at once at night, I'll see, my psychiatrist accepts the sleep study i've taken eons ago that I have Insomnia with a big I, the psychiatric disorder kind, it's like if I'm tweaking after 2 days up and I feel a disgusting sensation of lack of sleep..just like when one is crashing from tweaking.

Brotizolam is 32 bucks for a sample of 10 0.25mg, which once I bought 2, so I got 20, was still a lot less expensive than buying the standard 30. Anyway, I was like at a wine and cheese conference for the downer lover, so I had ordered a lot of samples of everything they got...fucking meprobamate rules (Equanil 400mg), there's also Stopaynes which a…
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Which Benzo is for me? by Walter Ponkinpark - Sun, 26 Mar 2017 17:50:37 EST ID:4LohPV2x No.134573 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I have severe social anxiety and find myself often just not able to get up and work because of this. Like I oversleep, and I just can't go to my boss and tell him this, so I rather say I was sick. I know, I know. I can't hold any job longer than a couple of months because of this.

Also someone rings the doorbell unexpectedly, I spend the next 30min shaking hiding under my bedsheets. It's gotten that bad by now, might be lack of any social contact, too but I don't give a shit.

So besides from Weed that I basically quit because I started to spend all day sucking on my bong. (Not a "choice" to quit more like, I really shouldn't smoke all day and just getting less and less. Last time I actually smoked was in summer) and having rolled molly like ~ 5 times and a little bit of speed when I used to go out- I don't really have much experience with any other drugs.

So what do you recommend that I should get in order to just be able to not give so many fucks? I don't care if I get turned into a zombie, I just want to be able to get up in the morning and be able to function. Also I'm a bit afraid of Benzos because what I read people tend to not give a fuck, but also tell the truth to the wrong people etc. Will I act even more impulsively than I do already? And -if that's important I think I might be really severely chronically depressed. I can't afford to go into therapy though, so I can't be sure, but I haven't felt mostly anything that emptiness since a couple of years.

I appreciate any feedback, thanks a lot in advance.
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Wed, 29 Mar 2017 15:14:33 EST ID:baWA5M8l No.134630 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134573
OP start by trying

>etizolam, half to 2/3 as strong as xanax mg for mg but less impairing somewhat less sedating and equal/stronger anxiolytic effects.
>you can try xanax if it's REAL pharma pills (almost all bars are homemade and too strong)

>diclazepam/valium are both good but super long lasting. No need to jump right in with these

>OP order etizolam pellets use circlejerk for reccomendations there are several trustworthy domestic vendors who sell 1mg pharma made pellets for around $1/mg plus shipping. Some do $1.50/mg now but that's a rip.

I pay $85 for 120x1.2mg pellets so $85 for 144mg or 59 cents per mg or 70.8cents per pellet. My gram of powder was under $100 but I'm still waiting to do several tests before I consume it. Oh yeah obviously if you get powder it's unsafe to consume it raw. You need to make a volumetric solution.
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Molly Sovingbanks - Fri, 31 Mar 2017 15:06:09 EST ID:8qbYT/gY No.134654 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Please seek professional counselling and speak to your physician about taking a long term anxiolytic or antidepressant like escitalopram or another SSRI. I wouldn't use benzodiazepines for treating social anxiety in the long run. They provide strong anxiolytic effects in the short term but can be quite addictive; in the long term SSRIs can are just as effective for treating severe anxiety and depression and are not nearly as addictive.

Seek a psychiatrist as well. Start exercising, build meaningful friendships and pursue meaningful hobbies. Life can be good again.

Source: Years of depression before starting medication and counselling. I have my life back now. I couldn't be happier. I don't believe that short-term benzos are the sol'n.
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Nigel Niddlekare - Mon, 03 Apr 2017 16:48:20 EST ID:j8zbbMG+ No.134712 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134605
the NHS does not prescribe alprazolam. you can only get it privately
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Dr. Katz - Mon, 03 Apr 2017 18:37:53 EST ID:fxIkwqoW No.134714 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134573
when in doubt, diazepam

nb
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Archie Cinnerhork - Mon, 03 Apr 2017 22:25:37 EST ID:8OxSb1rC No.134717 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134654
this, OP will love their new pills at first but they soon will become the worst aspect of his/her life later down the road after long term use.


cLam by Cornelius Pockfuck - Tue, 28 Mar 2017 17:27:23 EST ID:iVeGWC+P No.134618 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm fucked up on cLam powder going on forever
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Cedric Bunman - Thu, 30 Mar 2017 08:23:34 EST ID:ZacGx1PD No.134639 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134627
Not at all compared to me I have took daily doses of cLam for the past few weeks, enjoy
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Reuben Webberbury - Fri, 31 Mar 2017 02:37:09 EST ID:IHAFwf9z No.134650 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>134618
ive been dosing atleast 3-4 mg per day for the last 4 months
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Henry Pimbledock - Sat, 01 Apr 2017 02:29:00 EST ID:S4HtHFtq No.134664 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Don't redose, cuz honestly they creep the fuck up on you..
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Ernest Battinglutch - Sat, 01 Apr 2017 21:25:29 EST ID:vAkG4VJz No.134690 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134618
Once I did what I do with powder etizolam, lightly humidify the very top of my pinky with my tongue, and deposit under tongue, with etizolam, that causes me no issue, but that one time I had powder flunitrazolam and powder cloniprazepam....thankfully I don't do stupid shit when benz'd retarded, it seems like the cloniprazepam was much stickier than the powder etizolam...so I took an unknown amount and about 5mg flunitrazolam powder with it, that's when I was in between scales, the one I bought for 150 dollars broke down by itself, I never dropped it, it just crapped out on me, while I was waiting for the packages to get here.

I just ended up nodding on my home office chair in front of the computer, headphones in my ears, woke up because my neck hurt really bad, then went to sleep for about 14 hours more, the flunitrazolam surely had stopped working but cloniprazepam is a strange one, not sure if active itself, turns into 1-methyl-clonazepam and then clonazepam, the 1-methyl-clonazepam is active and more euphoric than clonazepam.

I don't hear much about it at all which is strange,it's not sold by the inventors, same people who came up with flubromazolam, clonazolam, but they didn't sell it for long, but then another of them places that moved from the UK to continental europe that's a rather well known since its been around for almost a decade now, has it and its from the same swedish source (the creators). It's good, only issue is that when they came out with it, they sold underdosed capsules of 2.5mg, when I needed 3 to really get somewhere nice.

Still got a lot, I keep it in my safe, like every mg active drugs I have in powder or liquid form...can't risk any bad possibility.
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Ernest Battinglutch - Sat, 01 Apr 2017 22:33:03 EST ID:vAkG4VJz No.134691 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134650
Reuben gonna rube, be careful, buy a large order sometime so you don't lack a source all of a sudden to ween out in the smoothest way possible.


RC benz by Albert Meffingchark - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 18:54:40 EST ID:et40GnUY No.134601 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm between clonazolam or diclazepam.
etiz is banned in my state so that's out.
Which is better and how do they feel compared to alprazolam (only benzo I've had)?

Thanks
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Sat, 01 Apr 2017 08:17:12 EST ID:9BCcSDoL No.134671 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134663
True, its a thienotriazolodiazepine, the thieno ring is why it skirts foreign legality.

It's just easier to include it in the RC group as its a foreign narcotic being sold alongside most RCs.
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Sat, 01 Apr 2017 08:28:57 EST ID:9BCcSDoL No.134673 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134663
Oh and I think the third country youbwere thinking of is Russia if I'm not mistaken although it's not Scandinavian.

Nb trivia
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Ebenezer Wocklebut - Sat, 01 Apr 2017 10:27:45 EST ID:MciwZ0En No.134678 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134671
It's bro, brotizolam is much more awesome, for sleep anyway, it is prescription in many countries, unfortunately not mine and I luckily got 20 0.25mg tabs in the mail once, god I love it, all the kick-your-ass of triazolam, with all the warmth of valium/temazepam among other hypnotics/muscle relaxants. Too bad it wasn't cheap, I'll get some more sometimes definitely, but yeah, it's scheduled here even if it never was even available for prescription, only other exception would be flubromazepam...they didn't ban flubromazolam, but the former, for some reason.
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Nigel Claystone - Sat, 01 Apr 2017 16:18:17 EST ID:2EnpPJdv No.134683 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Clam is the best benzo ever IMO. That being said, it is the goddamn devil. I have a love/hate relationship with it. Physical addiction set in after barely a week and a half of daily use. The good thing is that you can easily taper yourself off of it by using Diclazepam.

All that said, if you have self control and want the most bang for your buck, I'd go for Clonazolam.
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Ernest Battinglutch - Sat, 01 Apr 2017 21:02:39 EST ID:vAkG4VJz No.134688 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134683
Yeah, I mean, i'm thankful for the not one, not 2, but 3 benzo scripts I have...helps a lot, and also, I like to mix benzos, smaller doses than usual together, there's like 7 gaba-a subreceptors that really matter and these things all slow down the electricity to each of them differently I think it's a1,2,3,4,5 and y1/y2.

The euphoria from 0.5mg flunitrazolam, 0.5mg triazolam, 30mg diazepam on top of 30mg hydrocodone is hard to explain, it goes into memberberries territory "I remember this feeling, it's like when I was shooting up morphine mixed with hydromorphone when I had a 200 count of those filters made to shoot pills, they give it at exchanges here, but they give as much as the person who asks want, so they disappear fast, SteriFilts, you can even IV crack with it, it works somehow, didn't try, I did smoke a lot of self-made freebase for 8 months a decade ago, could have bought myself a nice brand new car with all that money but I never went as far as shooting up coke, the way even the cleanest fischscale coke I would turn into freebase while heavily on my then clonazepam script and a script of 0.5mg risperdal (lowest dose possible) to prevent acting sketch, looking for "maybe-dropped pieces of cooked coke", it would stop all depression feelings and make me sleep well, and wasn't like say, taking 4mg of risperdal (some guy gave me a large handful saying it was good for stim comedowns...took me a while to identify what they were, but they were the second highest dosage of an anti-psychotic,,taking halves of halves of halves of those pink rectangle tablets (0.5) worked without the...I took 4mg once before bed and I woke up feeling like a zombie, the way the government wants me to act I guess, went straight to the coffee pot, made myself coffee as my brains were unable to think, and the front page of the newspaper that we get for free on Sundays with local stories only (almost) managed to have kinda bad news, a factory where I could actually work once I finished university closed right in town and I remember drinking coffee, eating toasts with blueberry jam and not giving a shit, I think the front page if the front page had my own name on it saying …
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