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Tapering? by Sophie Paffingwig - Fri, 27 Jan 2017 05:44:56 EST ID:1Ih4fkt0 No.133622 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I've been using alprazolam for about six months now. Used to be 2,5-5mg a day, but last few months I just use 1mg two or three times a week to get to sleep. I wanna get off the benzo train entirely now though. Can I just stop? Or am I in too deep and need to taper?
Cheers.
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Dr. Katz - Mon, 06 Feb 2017 11:40:49 EST ID:6SljToxk No.133801 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>133799
insomnia is common
it will go away in time. Exercise, minimize caffeine intake, don't have any "screen time" within 2 hours of going to bed, etc.
You could always take OTC sleep meds if it's that bad.
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Priscilla Dumblefat - Mon, 06 Feb 2017 16:12:26 EST ID:fcAH7F8W No.133802 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>133801
I haven't slept in over 48 hours and I don't even feel remotely tired right now.
I thought that with my slightly minimal intake of benzos over a comparably short amount of time I wouldn't be fucked over by withdrawals. I've underestimated this drug. I can only feel for those who have to go through withdrawals after many years of daily use. This really isn't nice, and it must be a thousand times worse for those people. I think I would've been better off tapering.
Also, this is starting to sound like it should be in /detox/, sorry about that.
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Dr. Katz - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 11:28:10 EST ID:cQZ++e/L No.133809 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>133802
Even without a daily habit you can still have rebound anxiety and insomnia. These are just common issues that can and usually will happen.
But, that's a crazy amount of time to go without sleep from non-daily use at a relatively low dosage.
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Caroline Sammleshit - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 14:57:03 EST ID:fcAH7F8W No.133813 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>133809
I had a couple hours of sleep last night thankfully, but it's still not ideal. Bought some melatonin today and gonna try that out tonight.

Also if any of you guys see my sex drive anywhere, tell it to get the fuck back to me.
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Graham Shakeshaw - Fri, 10 Feb 2017 05:35:36 EST ID:olczonNY No.133852 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>133622
I have stopped from about 2.5 bars a day so 5mg a day cold turkey as alprazolam the only drug I was taking. Probably good to note I was not drinking or anything just went cold turkey on a prescribed 3 bars a day for about 6 months.
The first two days were hell the rest of the week was not bad then I felt completely fine for a year then the next year my life decided to go to shit and went back to the doctor when I should of manned up. This is just my personal experience. I have had sezuires going cold turkey off a clonazepam but not alprazolam.

Personally I WOULD say taper down where you feel like you only need about half of that to manage over at least 2 months THEN stop completely.
I would taper down to the point where you feel like "how the hell was i taking up to 5mg a day?" And then try to get off that roller coaster. Take whatever your max dosage was in the past 2 weeks and aim to make that half by a certain period of time but don't go to quick. If you are feeling like the anxiety is overwhelming then it is too much but if you feel like the anxiety you are feeling from the taper is "natural" then you are going at the right pace.

Or if you think you can give it all up at once and can power through it then I take a vacation from work or school or both for one week. The worst of it was over in about 3 days for me. It was a ballsy move to just do that though, from what I have read that dosage must of caused a ton of excitoxicity and probably shocked my brain and killed off some brain cells but it kept me off benzos for year before I made some mistakes.

I have also read people that cold turkey benzos have an extremely high chance to go back on the drug compared to tapering. And I will agree on that one..


WITH ALL THAT SAID.
>>> This is what I would actually do if it were me.
Just keep reading up and gather info of other experiences down to how others body weight and height even. When you feel confident and ready then start tapering at your own pace. I would do a mix of both, the taper guides that go all the way down to switching to Valium to the point you are taking .25mg of valium a day that are a 2 year taper are a bit way fucking ridiculous in my opinion. You can easily get off of 2.5-5mg a day in a 6-8 weeks if you do it perfectly but we aren't perfect here.
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buying online by Simon Gagglecheck - Mon, 06 Feb 2017 21:05:23 EST ID:0mBVa2U5 No.133804 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So i stopped drinking recently and my roommate gave me some of their ativan. It really helped but i don't want to keep asking them for it. So my question is what is the best website for ordering ativan. sorry if this is common knowledge but i figured you guys would know more than 4chans /adv/
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Dr. Katz - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 11:18:54 EST ID:cQZ++e/L No.133807 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>133804
It's related, but I'm not going to tell you how to buy illicit drugs.
>Also, sourcing isn't allowed.
If you're an alcoholic, then you could ask your doctor about getting on Valium (diazepam) to stop drinking.

Most of this board has a prescription, use RC benzos, buy from friends, or a combination of those 3. Of course people are getting scheduled benzos online though. You're better off getting a script, but I'm not your doctor.
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 12:42:11 EST ID:VZod1h28 No.133811 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>133804
Buy etizolam. Ativan is one of the few Rx benzos I've actually tried apart from xanax. I'd say etizolam is similar enough apart from etizolam not lasting as long.

Google buy etizolam readit and the rest is history.


Phenibut and other Nootropics by Sophia !0R/XnN1IK. - Wed, 18 Jan 2017 23:58:09 EST ID:/59ohHY5 No.133468 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Anyone here use "nootropics" like the -racetams and Phenebut? Just curious. Not sure if it fits in benz, but a lot of you are intelligent and hard-working people who might be into them. I'm looking for something that stimulates my brain and possibly gives me a bit of energy at work, but also doesn't add to my anxiety. I've heard that phenibut provides anxiety relief. There's so many out there, it's hard to know where to start looking, so I want some /benz/ opinions since we're on a similar level. Trying to get through the day without anxiety but not knocked out on solid Xanax at work.
So, knowing many of you suffer from actual anxiety disorders, I figured I'd ask here! Thanks in advance for any info. Love you guys <3
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Sophia !0R/XnN1IK. - Wed, 25 Jan 2017 16:01:10 EST ID:FxKHKMJE No.133596 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Thanks again everyone for your input! I have a general question about kratom now. I've tried it before but I was trying to get pain relief from it, I have chronic back pain. It didn't work that well.
But there are strains that help with anxiety pretty well? Anyone have personal experience with this? Since zombieinbowieland mentioned it in their post here, I thought I'd bring it up.
I wasn't very anxious at the time I was using kratom (this was years ago, when I was happier *sigh) and I was using mainly red vein ones so I'm not familiar with the others. Pink vein is a thing?!
Tell me your kratom stories please, benz :)
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Henry Shittingham - Wed, 01 Feb 2017 11:16:36 EST ID:M4vXXjmX No.133736 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>133596
I'm using Kratom for like 4 months, cycling through the strains.
Best one I had so far was Sumatra Red as an anti-depressant and anxiety and stress relief, coming with a rather long duration
For me the thing with Kratom is to keep dosing low, had abused it some years ago 8-10g per dose and just vomited like a motherfucker and ruined the "high".
Now I take 2g daily in the morning, have no urge do dose higher or again that day, maybe once in a week when I go out drinking.
Like I said I try to use various strains, to help with tolerance and take a week or two off occasianally. During that time I get some light WDs but they are bearable.
I gotta say it helped me alot and there might be some kind of plateau by dosing low every 6 or 12 hours. Also helped with my alcoholism and damaged short time memory, I think.
Gonna get some Bali White soon, havent tried it yet and the white strains can be quite stimulating even more with caffeine, but we'll see.
Like I said my fav strains so far: Sumatra Red, Borneo Green and Maeng Da
Still using benzos, though but irregular and mostly for recreation.
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Emma Hobbletodging - Wed, 01 Feb 2017 15:15:48 EST ID:Z0oEMH44 No.133739 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>133594
Quick warning I have gotten HORRIFICALLY addicted to tianeptine. Yes, it is a full on mu opioid receptor agonist. It is extremely short act with very rapid tolerance build up.

Please direct all inquiries regarding tia to /opi/ they will tell you the same thing and warn you that abuse of this drug is on par with heroin.
Don't do it.
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Thu, 02 Feb 2017 19:46:31 EST ID:EGPx3ZVC No.133756 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>133596
You want reliable red veins, not just any source with red leaves. Green are essentially like a hybrid and more stimulating = garbage for anxiety. White is most stimulating and the worst for you probably.

Less is more. 2-3.5g is better for mild anti depression and stim stimmy effects, higher dose is more nausea and sedation.

Kratom works for a lot of people, and it's worth a shot, but I found kava kava more effective than kratom. Dozen vendors 20+ purchases not bottom barrel prices and still almost no effects. If I'm sitting there wondering if I even feel anything, it doesn't work for me. Even back when I had no effective opi tolerance let alone now.

You should order modafinil off the DNMs. Seriously they don't piss test for it. Worth case scenario it's a weird false positive for stimulants and you're already in the clear. I know you're trying to do things by the book like me but we have to have a hybrid model for success.

I'm just trying to get a benzo script of any kind to legitimize etizolam use on tests.I have severe GAD with mderate depression. I've only had Ativan twice and never kpins/valium so those are what I'm truly after (no point in getting xanax when etizolam functions as the same thing for the most part. Short acting etc.)

Personally Not going the stim script route for RX. Wife has 40mg Vyvanse script we need changed to adderall XR or dexedrine due to insurance costs. Over $200 for 30 pills equivalent to 15mg adderall is a joke. I could get 80 pills worth via adderall off the street if I can land a $5 per 30mg Addy connect again. Hoping this changes soon. I use like 4-8 of them monthly. Ritalin crashes make me super depressed like no other FYI.
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Priscilla Cenningville - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 01:15:22 EST ID:q1wCcY+N No.133806 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I really like taking Phenibut (2g) with adderall (10mg). I become way more social than usual, and that has improved my relationships with people. My muscles felt very relaxed and I noticed bass and treble in music sounded louder (and more interesting.) Also, I find it really hard to cum on Phenibut, but I kind of like that - as it makes sex longer.
I remember taking smaller doses of .5g and 1g of phenibut- but the effects were too subtle for me. When I first took as dosage around 2g, it made me realize how much anxiety I normally have in my life, but I do not actually recognize. I think it also helps me stop to break down problems.

By the way, taking too much Phenibut can lead to you being very dizzy and can lead to stomach pain the next day - so be careful not to take too much. I've read online that some idiots took 5g, and they threw up for 5 hours strait while being extremely busy. Don't be an idiot and stay with a dosage that makes you feel comfortable.

Don't take it regularly, as it is known for being addictive. If you want to wait again, do it at least 3 days later - although you will likely have a tolerance to it so you'll need to take more. I generally wait about a week before I consider taking some more, as it don't want to become dependent on it, nor do I want to quickly build tolerance.

I also want to try some other nootropics for improved cognition and/or euphoria. I know you got a bunch of racetams. Maybe I'll try some of those sometime.


"Natural" GABA enhancers? by Matilda Bardbanks - Wed, 25 Jan 2017 20:21:07 EST ID:lt1JebNP No.133598 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Benzos make me feel like how my every life should be. I am free from constant anxiety and obsessive/invasive/suicidal thoughts. I am on mood stabilizers that help me minimally with these obstacles, but benzos help the most. They get rid of all my symptoms. It is a shame that benzos build tolerance so quickly, and that they cause memory loss.
Is there any way to mimic the effect of benzos through occult practices or dietary changes? I just want to feel normal in my daily life vs feeling tormented by my wack brain chemistry.
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Doris Drurrynat - Sun, 05 Feb 2017 01:16:04 EST ID:PT9GQ35R No.133786 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>133598

go on youtube, type "robert adams"
listen to his talks on non-duality. incorporate some sort of meditation/introspection practice daily, the method doesn't really matter, just sit, and observe your mind and what is doing the thinking/worrying.

benz are a great short term tactic, but you need a long-term strategy as well. Anxiety and depression are heavily influenced by memory, repetitive thoughts and worrying about the future. So you gotta learn to let go of those mental habits
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Betsy Pingergold - Sun, 05 Feb 2017 09:59:38 EST ID:IhkTIKBf No.133787 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>133598
It really depends on your brain chemistry. If your anxiety is inherent due to your brain chemistry, than there really is no way to do anything about it. If it's acquired from experience, than psychological tricks can do something.

Honestly, though, just stick to the mood stabilizers and whatever other meds you were prescribed. Doctors know best. The dopeheads at 420chan aren't a reliable source of information.
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Jarvis Greenville - Sun, 05 Feb 2017 13:48:27 EST ID:mmmDSBMf No.133788 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Keto diet causes higher concentration of acetone in the brain, also in enhanced no dream sleep where your natural HGH from.
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Betsy Pingergold - Sun, 05 Feb 2017 15:23:51 EST ID:IhkTIKBf No.133789 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>133788
Or, alternatively, one could huff acetone for similar results.
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Dr. Katz - Sun, 05 Feb 2017 17:20:08 EST ID:IZdDfy0K No.133792 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>133789
I've heard young teens are doing this to boost their ACT scores.
I don't think they realize that ACT is not a shortened version of Acetone.

nb - some version of reality I do not want to think of


Light klonopin tolerance by muff - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 16:58:54 EST ID:fUBW+pDy No.133772 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I take .25mg klonopin daily (roughly...more like 4 days a week on average) for anxiety. What would be an appropriate 'recreational' dose to just chill the fuck out on, given my slight tolerance?
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Lydia Simmleshaw - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 20:11:23 EST ID:W8pLcsoC No.133774 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>133772
how are you still alive after taking 25mg kpin daily? thats ridiculous.
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Beatrice Socklefod - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 20:16:52 EST ID:fs2BOQiY No.133775 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>133774
Read the thread ya benzed dummy
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Beatrice Socklefod - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 20:18:46 EST ID:fs2BOQiY No.133776 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>133772
2 mg is the standard starter dose for recreational use
Perhaps 2.5, given your slight tolerance.
Depends on your weight and what exactly your planning on doing too
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Graham Carrynore - Sat, 04 Feb 2017 18:01:50 EST ID:ROf+NdtI No.133780 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>133774
fucking bartard
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Sophia !0R/XnN1IK. - Sat, 04 Feb 2017 21:50:08 EST ID:MPRjicNh No.133783 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>133774
Op is ded. RIP sweet Prince.

But to answer your question, 1.5 would probably do you VERY well. Maybe stick to 1.25 and see how you feel.

Also, don't do this often. Don't get addicted. Notice the effects, enjoy them, and learn to SAVOUR these rare occasions and use them to your advantage. Don't abuse it and end up needing 4mg+ Klonopin and a bunch of Xanax to get through the day.


Etizolam withdrawal by Simon Blambleledge - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 05:18:30 EST ID:tDlbVyVN No.133764 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Sup /benz/. I have a question. I've been on a short term etizolam binge -- 110mg in like 13 days with a 3 days rest, how bad will the withdrawals be? Would I be able to stop cold turkey? I was using clonazepam on & off for like 2 weeks prior my binge. Will the withdrawals be bad? I'm using clonazolams now for the first day, because I ran out off etizolams and was too scared to quit cold turkey.. I took 1.5mg and feel some slight effects so I must've build a big tolerance already.. would it be safe to quit cold turkey? Or should I try to taper a tiny bit with clams? Taking .5 every 2 days, 3 days,.. Thx. Here's a pic of my clams. Oh and btw, it's the only benzo I can come by, so no diclaz or diazepams..
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Polly Nonnerstork - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 12:47:17 EST ID:0j1P2luM No.133769 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Average of 8.5mg for 13 days is quite a bit of etizolam, equivalent to about 4.25 mg of xanax a day. I would say taper even though it was only a short time because you had the 2 weeks of clonazepam use prior(how much per day?).

Clam powder is about 4x as potent as xanax, the pills are usually inconsistent. This is a guess here so take it with a big bag of salt but you could try starting the clam dose at .5, so about .5mg(one pill) of it would be a good start, but you don't want to be taking clam for very long as it might add to the dependency. Quick taper it and drop the doses by a half(.5mg x2days, .25x3days, .125x4days, .0625x5days) so at 14 days you would be off it completely and you will still have to deal with some withdrawals obviously but it's better than getting deeper in than you are imo. I hope that 14 days is a long enough taper factoring in the clonazepam as well. It should be enough to buffer you for the withdrawal provided the pills are close enough to the stated dose and will hopefully prevent any seizures or major complications which is about all you could hope for.

If you try to taper and you still find you're getting too uncomfortable and might be in danger go to the hospital. It's not ideal to explain that you've been abusing benzos to them but it's better than risking permanent damage! I'm sure you know this but doing 110mg of etizolam in 13 days is way overboard, many of us have been there before though, these drugs mess with your judgement more than any other class of substances. They're evil fucking chemicals when you start abusing/binging on them, I would rather go through a opiate withdrawal than another benzo withdrawal myself.
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Dr. Katz - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 15:00:58 EST ID:RHmHMfoL No.133770 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>133766
No. You don't need to taper from a 3 day binge.
Clonazolam is weird though, so we don't know what kind of tapering schedule to start at what point in time.
>Alcohol makes benzo withdrawal worse.
Stop spreading dangerous misinformation.
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Dr. Katz - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 15:01:55 EST ID:RHmHMfoL No.133771 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>133767
Benzos are one of the few drugs that can kill you when stopping cold turkey...
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Polly Nonnerstork - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 18:23:48 EST ID:0j1P2luM No.133773 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>133770

I thought it was a 13 day binge with a 3 day rest? Ya for sure he shouldn't taper if it was only 3 days, but if it was 14 days of clonazepam then 13 days of etizolam that's nearly a month of dosing in which case a short taper could be helpful. He didn't state how much clonazepam he was taking but if 13 days of etizolam is correct that's 8.5mg a day which is ridiculous and will result in a withdrawal. Clonazolam is a tricky one to even attempt to taper off with though...I also just noticed he said he took 1.5mg clam and only felt it slightly so his pills are either bunk or his GABA receptors are already severely down regulated. Going to emergency and asking for a short valium taper would be best in his situation.
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Shit Smallville - Sat, 04 Feb 2017 05:40:59 EST ID:yxNv2hZl No.133779 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>133773
I've indeed used clonazepam for about two weeks. It has been 26 hours now since my last use, and atm I feel fine.. I'm thinking about just trying to go cold turkey.. The 1.5mg clam from yesterday made me blackout completely though, but didn't actually sedate me as much. Friend of me took 1mg and messed him up, he has no tolerance though so I've must of build a pretty big one already..


Docs, Scripts, and Z-Drugs --- A Thread of Pills by Dr. Katz - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 14:14:39 EST ID:lixxb35S No.133658 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I met with my psych last week and the fuckin' scripts rolled out. Went from a shitload of 0.5mg alprazolam/month to 1mg alprazolam as needed (21x1mg pills/month) - directly told my doc I don't want that shit daily nor do I want to re-dose. But who writes a 21 pill script/month? I guess that's enough for 3mg/day for 7 days out of the month.
Stayed at the 90x10mg diazepam/month (which is excess, but hey, slowly building a backup stash of diazepam now).

This is where things get interesting - doc gave me a script for a free sample pack of 10x10mg, 10x15mg, and 10x20mg Belsomra (Suvorexant). To my knowledge, it's the newest z-drug/sleeping pill on the market. Name brand only right now. This drug is POWERFUL. After being able to take 100mg+ Sonata (zaleplon) and not sleep, I never thought z-drugs would work for me again. 10mg puts me at a good place with little to no grogginess in the morning and 15mg wipes me the fuck out. Definitely going to save the 20mg ones and split them in half eventually. I still want triazolam or temazepam for sleep, as I only take sleeping pills 1-2x/week. Patiently, patiently waiting.
On top of that, I have a consistent a 30x3mg/month Lunesta (eszopiclone) script now.

If anyone is taking a z-drug, I definitely recommend trying Belsomra. I know there's been a great deal of hype and advertisements, but I find that the drug really does work. Due to the fact that it's so new, there are coupons and all that shit. Docs are willing to give out sample packs since they'll make money on the drug. I'll wait a few years for the generic to hit before even thinking about getting on it.

I'm really not looking forward to the metallic aftertaste of Lunesta.
>Any tips for dealing with Lunesta's metallic aftertaste?
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Dr. Katz - Tue, 31 Jan 2017 02:23:01 EST ID:lixxb35S No.133708 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>133658
But seriously guys, how the fuck do I mask this horrible taste?!
I've tried gum/mints, drinking juices, etc.
One guide online recommended a tongue cleaner, water/salt solution to rinse, then brushing teeth.

We'll see. This is is DILDOS!
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Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Tue, 31 Jan 2017 02:27:32 EST ID:3hQHxYvZ No.133710 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>133708
You can't do shit about it. It changes your actual tastebuds and the nerves or whatever iunno I'm really fucking benzed right now.

Uhhhh. That uh.

ghu

What were we talking about. Find something you enjoy the taste of when you have that weird disgeunia or whatever it's called. I like cheetos or ketchup chips. Sometimes some salami tastes good with it too.

Yeah. Salamai. Too badI brusthed my teeth already.
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Dr. Katz - Tue, 31 Jan 2017 10:39:57 EST ID:Dlm7FzUv No.133716 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>133710
White grapefruit juice helped to dampen the taste for a little.
Yeah, I ended up looking the drug more -- not having realized that the taste was a side-effect of the drug. inhaling/exhaling just made it worse.
I didn't find a single report with concrete evidence to actually get past the taste due to the action of the drug. God damn it. I'll probably get back on Ambien (zolpidem) if this SHIT continues.
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Dr. Mario !gWLn19/oKs - Thu, 02 Feb 2017 20:16:12 EST ID:EGPx3ZVC No.133757 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>133716

Place the drug inside a sealed 00 capsule and swallow it orally. It's what I used to do with what I think was Lunesta. Either Lunesta or Sonata, whichever tastes like ass. It seemed to help like 75%+. I understand the concept that it can cause by taste so a side effect but if there's any chance there's a bittering agent in the tabletsafe my method will help a lot.

I almost think they make these taste like shit on purpose. It's pretty hard to roofie someone for rape when xanax powder tastes like ass. Same with Lunesta. Just a guess nothing to back it up.
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Dr. Katz - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 02:13:51 EST ID:F+Efya5k No.133762 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>133757
Sonata comes in capsules that can be broken/twisted open easily. The powder is mostly tasteless, but slightly sweet.

I was giving some thought to putting the Lunesta in gelatin caps. I just don't want to have a surplus of gelatin caps lying around. Yeah, they aren't illegal, but they are sketchy. I'll probably give it a shot though.


Quick Question by KingPoli - Thu, 02 Feb 2017 00:02:56 EST ID:bBBQqffo No.133747 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey guys, so I have been wondering why do benzos seem to dehydrate you so much? Its not just the dry mouth, but I feel like it totally drys my whole body up and i get really dehydrated if I dont drink 2x what I normally would. I dont understand how it causes this, does anyone else?

PS I havent been smoking weed so I dont think that has anything to do with it.
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Hannah Decklehood - Thu, 02 Feb 2017 10:23:21 EST ID:AtxD7mJf No.133748 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dry mouth is rather common, my hypothesis is that GABA blocks saliva production, don't quite me on that though.
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Dr. Katz - Thu, 02 Feb 2017 11:00:45 EST ID:geUvU5W4 No.133750 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>133747
The only thing close to this that I've experienced is dry mouth. I have heard a few other cases of people feeling "dried out," but that's less common.
Make it a habit to drink a lot of water a day. I drink a minimum of a half gallon a day and up to a gallon a day 7 days a week. With or without benzos/dry mouth it is important to keep water intake up.
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KingPoli - Thu, 02 Feb 2017 16:55:59 EST ID:pewGFm/o No.133755 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>133750
Interesting, among the people I know who use benzos, which is probably about 20 people, I've talked to 7 of them who also agree they get this dryness effect. I was sure to be clear it was not just the dry mouth. That being said most of them smoke weed and do other drugs so I don't know how honest/accurate their opinions are.


Why is etizolam the greatest thing ever by Nathaniel Pittwell - Fri, 27 Jan 2017 13:53:48 EST ID:Fo9v71Oo No.133626 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I originally purchased etizolam to help with my Kratom withdrawal (had a 30g a day habit which I tapered over two weeks down to about 6g a day) and from here I'm going cold turkey. It should be noted that I have withdrawal from Kratom two (now three) times, and years ago I had a two year hydro habit which I kicked cold turkey. As such, the withdrawal from opiates get worse and come in quicker (after one week of Kratom I was already in withdrawal mode without it). I know that this time I have to for good and never look back. I am not capable of self control on opiates.

Right now I'm on 1mg etiz and 440mg naproxen for the pain. Normally the RLS drives me insane even after tapering so low, but with etiz is just a minor discomfort. I'm on day 7 of using etiz, and plan to use it through my work well which will be another four days, then taken a .2 mg dose once daily in the morning with 500mg phenibut for three days in order to quick taper and hopefully experience little to no discomfort.

Now that my story is out of the way, I think I've found my miracle drug. This etizolam stuff is great, and after reading all the horrible withdrawal experiences I intend to use the utmost care in using it, I.E. only as needed. No more than three days a week. After my taper I will abstain for seven days, with a possible phenibut dose or two if things get bad, but my entire family will be in town at that time so I will be very distracted and busy, so I am certain this won't be an issue.

Now time to stop beating around the bush, why is etizolam so perfect? It's not sedating, and in fact with a good cup of coffee in the morning I feel like I'm on speed. No anxiety, just totally on point.

It also turns me into a "man" in the sense that while under it's effects I finally talked back to my bitch of a boss and actually got her to apologize for how she is sometimes. I confronted my mother about her harassing my wife about missing the family wedding for work. At work, the guys under my command think I'm hilarious but are now starting to respect me because I no longer take their shit attitudes. Don't get me wrong, it doesn't make me an asshole about everything, it just makes me…
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William Brimblegold - Mon, 30 Jan 2017 03:34:31 EST ID:Pz5IV8Hl No.133692 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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etizolam can fit the dick and balls in its mouth. only good for sleep other than that, its garbage for me.
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Fuck Cluvingford - Mon, 30 Jan 2017 20:51:01 EST ID:NZeHZIZX No.133704 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>133692
I don't get how people can say this, it's way more fun than any other benzo get a really steady good feeling alp and kpins can't even come close to
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Dr. Katz - Tue, 31 Jan 2017 02:25:53 EST ID:lixxb35S No.133709 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>133704
etizolam is dope and all, but the duration is even shorter than alprazolam!
Etizolam has plenty of redeeming qualities and its effects are stellar for how short they do last. But compared to clonazepam? Clonazepam > Etizolam for many, many reasons, IMHO
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Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Tue, 31 Jan 2017 02:29:13 EST ID:3hQHxYvZ No.133712 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>133709
kpin over etizolam i agree with you
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Charles Ningerdure - Thu, 02 Feb 2017 14:11:43 EST ID:NZeHZIZX No.133753 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>133709
>shorter duration

People say this too. It's easy to forget how much of the benzo experience depends on one's neurochemistry I guess I'm blessed and cursed with the double-edged sword that nearly every benzo gives me extreme euphoria and lasts ages. It even feels like I can control the amnesia, like I can use benzos to speed up time but not have that effect at all if I don't want to. I guess I'm a benzomancer or something. Etiz works the best so far for me though. Second is kpins and valium tied. Alp a distance third and everything else is great. It's like choosing a favorite child, you don't really want to and you can see the good in everything but deep down you know you have a favorite.


Temazepam by Martin Shakehood - Wed, 01 Feb 2017 01:24:17 EST ID:TK9egSNr No.133732 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey /benz/

Haven't posted here in a long time. Fairly experienced lorazepam and zopiclone user here, so I'm no stranger to benzos. But recently came into acquirement of some Temazepam. Six tablets. Pretty sure they're 30 mg or something. Not sure of the dosages yet, but nothing crazy.

My wife is 140 pounds and six foot, and I'm 180 pounds and six foot. What dose would be good for an intro to recreational usage of temazepam? What should I expect in comparrison to other benzos I've tried, how should I take them, and is there anything I should be super concerned with?

At the moment I have a slight tolerance, but very little as I've been off of everything for about three days.

Please forgive my ignorance on the subject. I've only ever played it safe and dabbled in abusing prescriptions my doctor gave to me. This is a little out of my comfort zone and realm of knowledge. Any insight would be hugely helpful. Much thanks,
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Dr. Katz - Thu, 02 Feb 2017 12:03:17 EST ID:geUvU5W4 No.133751 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>133732
First, benzos are not specifically weight dependent.

As far as recreation, I've heard mostly positive reports about temazepam use. Some people consider the effects to be similar to, but distinct from diazepam with more euphoria. Keep in mind that temazepam is a hypnotic/sleep benzo. As far as dosage, 30mg is a medicinal sleep dosage. I've heard of people taking doses ranging from 30-90mg for their first time. It's always better to start low.


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