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How long of daily use before you develop a physical dependence? by Phyllis Wommerham - Sun, 26 Feb 2017 19:13:33 EST ID:K1aHmUaO No.134199 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Hi all,

Been doing between 0.25 and 0.5mg of clonazolam every day to sleep after stimming. This has been going on for about 2 complete weeks and my workload is going to pretty much force this to go one for another week as well. How long can I go for before I should expect some physical withdrawal symptoms?
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Shit Blazzlestock - Mon, 27 Feb 2017 22:51:16 EST ID:paeA0zak No.134216 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It all depends on the person however OP you should realize byn now:
stimming is often counterproductive to work in the long run (especially if you, like many I've known, end up getting distracted by porn, vidya, wikipedia, or whatever random garbage online or elsewhere like rearranging your room)

Your work often becomes run on sentence shitposting that looks like a psychotic made it if you overdo it especially if you don't sleep

Taking go pills and no go pills over an extended time like that is seriously unhealthy (expect possible heart problems later on if you keep this up)

Benzodiazepines can induce anxiety and panic reaction disorders in the otherwise healthy

Now as for physical dependence, again it varies but often you can get away with abusing it for up to a month without real physical problems. Be aware however that you can probably suffer a rebound effect and have anxiety/insomnia come back something fierce when you stop.

My advice? Find someone with Seroquel. It is by far the best no go pill for amphetamines and other stims out there. Be aware however that it is an antipsychotic and quite strong if you're not used to taking it, and has a slight risk of neurological problems. I've taken it for sleep plenty. Only problem is it drains you into an apathetic emotionless joyless slug after awhile.
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Dr. Katz - Mon, 27 Feb 2017 23:55:51 EST ID:fxIkwqoW No.134218 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134199
clonazolam is a bit of an outlier as there have been anecdotal reports of some users having intense w/d after only several days to two weeks of daily use. I believe that an individual who had a preexisting seizure disorder reported (or his friend reported) that seizures were occurring before two weeks of daily usage upon discontinuation.

For classical benzodiazepines physical withdrawal starts anywhere between 6 and 26 weeks. Yes, 1.5 to 6 months of daily use depending on biological factors, dosage, etc.
The simple fact is that we do not know enough about clonazolam. We have next to no scientific information on this drug. All that the community has are anecdotal reports by users that more often than not end up with extremely negative consequences.

When you do plan to get off of clonazolam I strongly advise using a different benzo to taper with.
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John Crirrydare - Tue, 28 Feb 2017 23:16:36 EST ID:vePDwL+I No.134232 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134218
I would recommend diclazepam as a tapering benzo if you go for RCs. It has a long duration, little recreational potential and is not very impairing. It also is a good general anxiolytic for medical use.
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Wed, 01 Mar 2017 01:53:47 EST ID:UTwTLcUV No.134235 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134216
I wouldnt tell people to seek out antipsychotics even the atypical generation. Complicated drugs with odd effects, plus it looks as if theyre all going down the way of the thorazine shuffle anyways.
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Hedda Clungerkure - Wed, 01 Mar 2017 21:37:03 EST ID:K1aHmUaO No.134243 Ignore Report Quick Reply
so I decided to just stop for a few days and not use them. I didn't experience any negative effects so thats good
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Thu, 02 Mar 2017 18:35:39 EST ID:UTwTLcUV No.134258 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134199
What seems to be the most common answer I've seen is that "withdrawal symptoms generally manifest after 2 weeks of daiky usage etc.

BUT

You have to remember that was probably the lowest significant cluster of the sample, the range is probably much more unpredictable. I've seen everywhere from a week having wds to a month with none.

Anecdotally CLam seems notorious in wds and otver areasfor many. Ive tapered clonazePam down from 4mg daily rx with no wds worth mentioning, so I really do believe individual body chemistry and the mindset are bigger factors.

Stimming lowers your seizure threshold so your seizure risk is nore of a factorm, however I was also taking vyvanse during my taper and found it helped fatigue abd poor mood. Coincidently was simultaneously taking divalproex sodium at the time so seizure risk wasnt a consideration.
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Ebenezer Nicklewater - Thu, 02 Mar 2017 19:29:51 EST ID:K1aHmUaO No.134259 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Follow up. How long before wd symptoms set in? Its been 2 days since my last dose of c-lam and I feel pretty strung out. Its hard to say though because I'm also just riding out the amphetamine comedowns without landing gear
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Fri, 03 Mar 2017 09:03:38 EST ID:UTwTLcUV No.134268 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134259
Depends on the half life of active metabolites of the drug. No idea with CLam as its an rc. 48 hours seems like a reasonable time although as you said crashing off stims can make it hard to differentiate.
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JJzz !aPcLWKZmSw - Tue, 14 Mar 2017 17:20:16 EST ID:zxcR8K26 No.134387 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>134259

Personally when I was addicted to cLam I would start to feel WD symptoms the morning after my last dose, maybe 18hrs


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