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benzos for bpd? by wwiittcchhhhh - Thu, 04 Jan 2018 16:51:20 EST ID:Ax6XV19O No.138827 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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hey everyone, i hope you're having a great day <3

i have borderline personality and i've been really busy ruining my life and being useless. should i just use all my money and buy a shit ton of benzos? it sounds like fun i fucking hate my life and my friends who left me. i'm alone i hate myself
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High Strung - Thu, 04 Jan 2018 18:02:01 EST ID:jkHAYtZi No.138829 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I have 3 BPD friends. For 2 of them Clonazepam works wonders, but for the other one it's a source of serious abuse. Then again, the latter person also is an on-and-off again IV heroin addict and has been in-and-out of prison and forensic psych wards (yes, FORENSIC psych wards) for violent crimes so she might be considered an outlier.....

Do you have a past problem with addiction to other drugs? Cuz if not, then steer clear. If not, it might be of some help.
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wwiittcchhhhh - Thu, 04 Jan 2018 18:35:15 EST ID:Ax6XV19O No.138830 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138829
i dont have any past issues with drugs or addiction. i'm struggling a lot and everything is overwhelming.
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Lillian Fupperwill - Fri, 05 Jan 2018 03:00:06 EST ID:B7+VZXDL No.138835 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138830
I'm bipolar which is similar to BPD in some aspected. Clonazepam has been the best for me. It is long acting and keeps the day even throughout. I take 1mg 3x a day
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Archie Fondlemudge - Fri, 05 Jan 2018 03:49:48 EST ID:v2WQdnbN No.138836 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138829
Nice. Trying to get my ex locked up for years in a forensic psych ward.
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Nell Haddledere - Fri, 05 Jan 2018 05:45:45 EST ID:EwUic2eK No.138838 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Phenazepam is an even better benzo for mood stabilization for someone with BPD. Has a half life of 10-18 hours + active metabolite with a 60 hour HL and nearly no recreational effects compared to even lorazepam or diclazepam. I've had my manic phases and remember with the Russian tablets only having to dose one tablet a day for the first week then every other day the second week until I was stabilized. Once it gets into your system it lingers for ages, second only to flubromazepam with duration of activity, it works in the background to calm you without doing much else. From what I understand BPD's have a predilection to abuse drugs so a benzo that gets the job done with the least re-enforcing effects is preferable.
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wwiittcchhhhh - Fri, 05 Jan 2018 06:07:47 EST ID:Ax6XV19O No.138839 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138838
that sounds nice.. i'm trying to stay drug free but honestly everythings just been awful and i'm seeing a psych in 2 weeks to get help for my bpd. i've never been a functional person but i'm good at pretending until i have a meltdown
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High Strung - Fri, 05 Jan 2018 07:57:51 EST ID:jkHAYtZi No.138841 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138835
Shake hands! I have Bipolar Disorder Type II !
I take Depakote, Lamictal, and Klonopin.

For BPD, I would suggest Lamictal, Klonopin (In small, controlled doses....), and Dialectical Behavioral Therapy. That's how my functioning Borderline friends manage their illness. DBT even helped me with my bipolar.

Just be careful.... I've heard of BPD people abusing benzos terribly because of lack of self-control and just using them to mucho high. Maybe have a loved one or a doctor control your intake?
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Samuel Harringden - Fri, 05 Jan 2018 08:06:04 EST ID:x1E9MLIx No.138842 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lmfao jesus dude, nah i dont think benzos will help with that they'll just make you more uninhibited. i personally find myself to be *way* more manipulative while im on benzos tbh
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Mirai Chan - Fri, 05 Jan 2018 10:00:48 EST ID:nSK6KPfu No.138844 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I wouldn't. I also have BPD and am addicted to benzos. I also have an opioid and amphetamine habit. Honestly, try kratom or opioids. They work far better for my BPD symptoms, and haven't caused a fraction of the hell benzos have in my life.
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Mirai Chan - Fri, 05 Jan 2018 10:00:48 EST ID:nSK6KPfu No.138845 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I wouldn't. I also have BPD and am addicted to benzos. I also have an opioid and amphetamine habit. Honestly, try kratom or opioids. They work far better for my BPD symptoms, and haven't caused a fraction of the hell benzos have in my life.
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wwiittcchhhhh - Fri, 05 Jan 2018 14:38:45 EST ID:Ax6XV19O No.138846 Ignore Report Quick Reply
it could be weeks before i start DBT. waiting is strangling me
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Sat, 06 Jan 2018 10:56:46 EST ID:PB8WrBdS No.138863 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138827
no, it is a bad idea. Especially unsupervised, and your disorder.

Seen it first hand more than once. Ends poorly, disinhibited behavior gets worse, parasuicidal threats, all that fun jazz.

I've seen close friends have radical success with DBT, I sincerely hope you just go with that route.

You're more likely to get a mood stabilizer like lamotrigine, VPA, topiramate, carbamazepine etc maybe an ssri , if anything (some PDocs I've met don't like going into pharmacological treatment for BPD). None of those are fun time drugs.

>>138841
The NHS doesn't advise pharmacological treatment for BPD, but even the efficacy of Mood Stabilizers is relatively weak/new. SSRI's are used as frequently.
Psychotherapy is generally the most accepted means of treatment to my knowledge.

Lamotrigine really needs the benefits to outweigh the risks in order to justify usage IMO, even though it's rare SJS isn't something you want to run into. BZD's are contraindicated, so I wouldn't recommend clonazepam.

also high five, I was treated for BP II for 5 years on a similar esque cocktail. Valproate/Depakote was a lot easier for me to stomach than lithium.
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Phineas Hashmare - Sat, 06 Jan 2018 20:44:54 EST ID:DVurzaU3 No.138869 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138839
Please don't get into phenazepam. Its easily accessible and all, but the redose rate, minuscule dosage amount, and blackout rate is high. I've seen that shit really mess with a close friend and fuck, now that I think about it mail order benzos have messed up more friends than I'd like to admit.
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Shitting Drovingdale - Mon, 08 Jan 2018 02:03:54 EST ID:EwUic2eK No.138879 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138869

Someone taking a completely different benzo could suffer the exact same fate as that. 1mg of phenazepam is about the same potency as lorazepam according to a few different charts you can find online so it isn't even as potent as clonazepam( I can say from experience too that 1mg phenazepam = 10mg diazepam = .5mg clonazepam feels accurate). When taking the authentic tablets from a Russian pharmaceutical company it really can be one of the safest and most therapeutic benzos for anxiety and calming the mind without feeling like it's recreational in the least. I haven't had the chance to try pyrazolam personally, but I imagine if it was any less recreational feeling than phenazepam it would barely be a benzo lol

I can see your post comes from a place of caring and concern so don't take this as a hostile post, i'm simply respectfully disagreeing with your assessment. I've had problems abusing benzos in the past and they took a huge toll on my life for a while but with phenazepam I have no desires to abuse it because it has no re-enforcing effects the more I take of it (a high), it's simply an extremely effective anxiolytic with all of the dangers of the other benzos and none of the 'fun'.

The long half life is something that you have to take into consideration though in order to avoid an unintended buildup of it in your system which is why a small dose once a day at the start(1-1.5mg) is appropriate for a daily user and then a measured dose every other day split into morning and night would be safest imo. If you're taking it as needed and don't want dependency to set in obviously you couldn't take it more than once or twice a week, I would personally say only once a week as it has a half life between 72-78 hours if you're taking in consideration the active metabolite as well. It's more appropriate as an always on benzo rather than an as needed benzo imo.
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lemon squeeze - Mon, 08 Jan 2018 02:55:19 EST ID:Ax6XV19O No.138882 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138879
i doubt i'll get any benzos. i don't really care about trying them. i made this thread when i was upset. i don't know what im doing.
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ssss - Mon, 08 Jan 2018 23:01:21 EST ID:hK3dC/dV No.138894 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>138827
hey bud my email is seanruge at g nail dot com -- if you wanna be friends it'd love. it. i've been taking klonopin pretty regular and i just don't knoiw how i feel about it. sometimes if makes me feel great andf other times i don't really feel so good and it just fucks with my motor skills. do you play videogames?
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Tue, 09 Jan 2018 18:34:49 EST ID:PB8WrBdS No.138907 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138894
waddya game?
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Oliver Brosslekat - Tue, 09 Jan 2018 18:37:33 EST ID:DVurzaU3 No.138909 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>138894
Why am I getting a pedo vibe from this post...

NB for intuition
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Esther Sackleworth - Tue, 09 Jan 2018 20:27:49 EST ID:tFUnmBC1 No.138914 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138909
LOOOL nb
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Dr. Katz !KqgSR25gAQ - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 19:55:18 EST ID:eU6VsVxS No.138948 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138909
Seems more like loneliness and mental health issues than anything.

Unless OP is underage!

nb until we have more info
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Thu, 11 Jan 2018 21:27:51 EST ID:f/QzuUjS No.138956 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138948
>inb4 I'm a 16 year old girl
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wwiittcchhhhh squeeze - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 00:08:07 EST ID:Ax6XV19O No.138958 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138956
sadly i'm 20

seeing my psych in 4 more days, lets see what i get (if anything) ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Matilda Cepperhitch - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 08:42:51 EST ID:mLaAEbGB No.138963 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138958
hey, my email is [email protected] do you like videogames? I'm mentally ill and I'm hitting on you
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 08:57:33 EST ID:f/QzuUjS No.138964 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138963
Hey my email is DoesThisRa[email protected]

I am now praying that >>138894 is actually trying to pick up on /benz/, and not awkwardly reaching out
nb
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Bombastus Werrywag - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 19:55:37 EST ID:PmD1qpF8 No.138974 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138964
You fucking assdick you know that chloroform doesn't work like that. I will kick your ass and suck your dick if you make a mistake like that again.

>inb4 tinytrap
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Matilda Bennerham - Sat, 13 Jan 2018 08:41:08 EST ID:TVqbqP+D No.138979 Ignore Report Quick Reply
bpd & benzo addiction is like forever living with a mirror image of the person you could be if all this shit that weighs you down was gone. it's not fun. but then again i can't sit here & recommend against it.
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wwiittcchhhhh - Sat, 13 Jan 2018 12:55:06 EST ID:VcjOZPgk No.138980 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138979
hoping i at least get some amb for sleep lol highly doubt it fingers crossed i would definitely get addicted to this shit but honestly don't care right now.
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Walter Fuckleford - Sat, 13 Jan 2018 12:57:31 EST ID:9NiP+Pvk No.138981 Ignore Report Quick Reply
isn't bpd strictly a diagnosis given to women and it's called something else for men? why do I remember hearing that?
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wwiittcchhhhh - Sat, 13 Jan 2018 13:22:46 EST ID:VcjOZPgk No.138983 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138981
no, it's just really stigmatized and men are diagnosed with anger issues / whatever bullshit. i think symptoms also usually present slightly different in men and women but its still all bpd.
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William Gerryforth - Sun, 14 Jan 2018 07:19:32 EST ID:8ARdN0l0 No.138992 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138983
I thought bpd was diagnosed for women and for men it's called antisocial personality disorder
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wwiittcchhhhh - Sun, 14 Jan 2018 20:29:08 EST ID:Ax6XV19O No.139006 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>138992
antisocial personality disorder is sociopathy
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TinyTrip !5pb17tfZto - Sun, 14 Jan 2018 20:53:13 EST ID:5o2I4jcJ No.139007 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>139006
>>138992
The reason they thought that is because sometimes in the field people refer to aspd as male borderline and vice versa.

This is because the dx % by gender are inversely reflected with extremely low dx of male bpd, and female aspd, leading to this euphism.

They aren't the same disorder, although people have remarked on the relationship between the two.

BPD was getting pushed for a name change to complex ptsd last I looked into it.
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David Bivingmidge - Sat, 20 Jan 2018 03:07:44 EST ID:v2WQdnbN No.139056 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>139007
I'm pretty sure CPTSD is something else. Maybe I'm wrong.

t. regular PTSD haver


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