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Voice Problems by Cyril Sankinmore - Mon, 27 Jul 2015 20:46:56 EST ID:RgCb5a73 No.391242 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I was just wondering how difficult it is to develop a female-register voice?

I know one girl who's trans who is like 23 and still has a male-register voice, and I was just watching a clip from the new Cait Jenner show and she also has a male-register voice.

Why is this? Is it impossible for some people to learn to speak in a female-register?

Also, does anyone have any tips or tricks for learning to speak in a female-register?
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Isabella Blittingstone - Sun, 02 Aug 2015 22:37:33 EST ID:02tJDfmF No.391567 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Why is this?

Because no matter what you do, you will never be a woman.
What's more, 90% of you will never fool anyone but yourselves.
Isabella Gengerstid - Mon, 03 Aug 2015 01:47:19 EST ID:D0apJWhd No.391569 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Lillian Huggleville - Mon, 03 Aug 2015 02:57:51 EST ID:tni0lU3m No.391570 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Haha, this is someone who I know is trans, not someone I've clocked.
Lillian Huggleville - Mon, 03 Aug 2015 03:02:43 EST ID:tni0lU3m No.391571 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I realize you came here to be hateful, but getting your voice right isn't always about being 'stealth', as much as it's about sounding the way you want to sound.
George Gicklewotch - Mon, 03 Aug 2015 03:48:13 EST ID:3y0ijbd3 No.391572 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You can't just get improvement without hearing the changes you want in your mind totally
>Also thought someone secretly knew me too

Coming Out Stories / Trans Comics by Martha Bunhood - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 15:13:10 EST ID:Ixs0caaP No.391512 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What are your stories from coming out?

Also, got any trans related comics? Doesn't matter if they're publishes or from Paint, or if they're openly about trans issues or it's just implied.
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Betsy Secklelitch - Sun, 02 Aug 2015 10:48:44 EST ID:pA1KGa1o No.391553 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Betsy Crillynedge - Sun, 02 Aug 2015 17:37:19 EST ID:c5SbKnl1 No.391558 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Betsy Crillynedge - Sun, 02 Aug 2015 19:01:09 EST ID:c5SbKnl1 No.391559 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Hey you said so called implied too, and that's subjective.

Wouldn't you know it, there just happens to be an autogynophila-ish one!
Hugh Munderhidging - Sun, 02 Aug 2015 21:23:18 EST ID:wqflykZW No.391565 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Did ben garrison really drew that one? or just one of /pol/ jokes?
Hamilton Snodlock - Mon, 03 Aug 2015 00:18:09 EST ID:f7f7LnHO No.391568 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Did ben garrison really drew that one?

Is Hillary Clinton a reptilian?

Transition Take #2 by Lydia Smalllock - Thu, 30 Jul 2015 00:10:26 EST ID:nH1P5Oka No.391353 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Has anyone here gone back to transitioning after previously starting and stopping?

I was in the process of transitioning a few years ago, but I stopped because of having a mental breakdown and failing out of college among a myriad of other things, including health problems. I was only on hormones for about 6 months before I stopped.

I'm older and wiser now (23), and I have a better handle on my life/health. My body has always been fairly feminine, except for my shoulders, which would be noticeably wider than an average females.

Now that the other aspects of my life have been taken care of, the desire to transition hit me like a ton of bricks.

I feel like I'm stuck in limbo.
Polly Sodgedick - Thu, 30 Jul 2015 00:42:20 EST ID:v8EFXt0C No.391355 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Id go for it, since you got your life together.
Sophie Sundlesatch - Thu, 30 Jul 2015 01:52:18 EST ID:D0apJWhd No.391364 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What is that? A really shitty SL avatar?
Hugh Munderhidging - Sun, 02 Aug 2015 21:48:22 EST ID:wqflykZW No.391566 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You made the right choice anon, you should take care of your body and mental health overall, if not, you would have end up killing yourself and then became a statistic of durr hurr HRT doesn't work, look at all those trannies who kill themselves after it... Now since you got your shit together go for it .
I have seen trans who started at 26 and made a decent transgirl.

Godspeed to you anon, pursuit you dream and make us all proud.

New passing thread! by David Bunwater - Wed, 08 Jul 2015 15:44:40 EST ID:tk6cSZqD No.390469 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Because the old one reached the bump limit and no one else has so far lol gooo
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Fucking Drobberkack - Sun, 02 Aug 2015 15:08:17 EST ID:Ffuvh28d No.391554 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>missed three weeks of shots because of switching doctors
>tfw 5 months since starting, but only ~4 months of shots
>manface 5ever
Phoebe Crummerwill - Sun, 02 Aug 2015 16:11:09 EST ID:D0apJWhd No.391555 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Your hair kinda sucks, but otherwise you're fine. I wouldn't be surprised if we've all missed a couple of weeks in our dosing, especially starting out. I personally missed about 3 weeks total of Estrogen, and 1 week without spiro. NBD

Try makeup, too
Fucking Drobberkack - Sun, 02 Aug 2015 16:26:02 EST ID:Ffuvh28d No.391556 Ignore Report Quick Reply
yeah idk what I'm doing my with my hair, plus I have helmet hair a lot cause motorcycles are waay easier on gas than cars
Phoebe Crummerwill - Sun, 02 Aug 2015 16:53:12 EST ID:D0apJWhd No.391557 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Ooh, cool. That makes it slightly more acceptable. :p
Ebenezer Wapperspear - Sun, 02 Aug 2015 21:18:54 EST ID:SiqgHkgS No.391564 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Its been awhile since I posted.. my hair is growing in a little in this one.. I since then cut my hair.. purged and restarted again.. :(

How Sex Genes Are More Complicated Than You Thought by Augustus Sonnerket - Mon, 27 Jul 2015 18:03:44 EST ID:D0apJWhd No.391238 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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More reason that even biological sex is kind of a fucked up system and not completely black and white.


>pic unrelated
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Simon Grandson - Tue, 28 Jul 2015 04:30:05 EST ID:D0apJWhd No.391267 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's meant to be a very simple, easy-to-understand-for-the-layman informational video. Duh. Have you not watch DNews videos before?
Cedric Cublingfet - Wed, 29 Jul 2015 10:42:58 EST ID:rgqxw9vQ No.391314 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Well, I watched many videos. People exploiting Obukhov's transforms to prove the existence of God through "creative capacity of a person". Medical doctors claiming that bruises are a sure sign of cancer. Ancient Aliens.
The obsession of modern pseudoscience with neomorphology and genetics is disgusting.
And also it leads to PASTOR DISPROVEDED INBORN NATURE OF TRANSSEXUALISMUS BY SPOTTING A COUPLE OF SIBILINGS ONE WAS TRANS AND THE OTHER WASNT; i.e. it provides reactionaries with semi-viable arguments against People's medicine.
Caroline Dorryfot - Wed, 29 Jul 2015 13:02:47 EST ID:D0apJWhd No.391319 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Ebenezer Dripperfeck - Thu, 30 Jul 2015 13:38:33 EST ID:29wCwYat No.391397 Ignore Report Quick Reply
tl;dr: Pop science is DEVIL and was rotten when started and will come to you at night asking for your bodily fluids.
Layman should be abolished or will harvest you for "Tranny Blood Radiculitis Balm".
Hugh Munderhidging - Sun, 02 Aug 2015 21:17:59 EST ID:wqflykZW No.391563 Ignore Report Quick Reply
We already knew this shit, but it was never in the mainstream because of the unsureness of it, we still know shit but at least there is advance, the bad part is that people love to make conclusions, sometimes the journalist will speak what they understood instead of what the doctor/research said, gaslighting entitled faggets everywhere.

Here: http://www.learner.org/courses/biology/units/gender/experts/vilain.html
(Jan - 2013)

Autocaucasiophilia by Esther Lightwell - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 18:19:31 EST ID:7+cai2I4 No.391520 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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According to the typology created by the famed raceologist Blay Ranchard, there are two types of transwhites, that is, people of color who identify as white. The first and by far the most numerous type are people sufering from an unnatural paraphilia named autocaucasiophilia that makes them aroused by imagining themselves as white. They have always been race-typical and do not have a white brain in a colored body, the most striking narrative of such people was provided by a black man nicknamed "Ghettotug", he has always been a race-typical black man, he listens to rap, beats his wife, steals cars and eats watermelons, but when he was about 15 years old he started to behave strange, he painted himself white and straightened his hair and sat in front of a mirror to masturbate, this is a typical narrative of autocaucasiophilia, keep in mind these people are not whites in colored bodies, thought they wish they were.

The second and by far the least numerous type are people with colored bodies and white brains, they do not suffer from autocaucasiophilia and were race-atypical from birth, one such case was provided by a young asian woman nicknamed "Honkytits", she never behaved like an asian person, she expressed emotions, opressed minorities, hated studying and couldn't learn math, when she was about 15 years old she came home wearing a white pride t-shirt and assaulted her mother by smacking her face with a pancake pan, today she moved to a white neighborhood and identifies herself as a white woman trapped in an asian woman's body, these people are the only true whites in colored bodies and suffer very much for not being perceived and treated as their true selves, they should be allowed to opress minorities to express their whiteness.
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Thomas Duckway - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 22:38:47 EST ID:BP9n7mwx No.391538 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Solid solutions, like, ultimate ones!
Final one's! Everyone knows the Jews dont like "us".
Thomas Duckway - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 22:47:20 EST ID:BP9n7mwx No.391539 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I could probably elaborate on what a Jew is but its already looking bad for "us". So I'd rather leave my understanding of what those are a mystery. Its pretty easy to get ideas about them. Yeah so you know Hitler was a fucked up man and thus our existence has to be completely fucked up because of him and some shit I had nothing to do with.
Thomas Duckway - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 22:55:16 EST ID:BP9n7mwx No.391540 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>I hate when I post shit like this.
Phoebe Crummerwill - Sun, 02 Aug 2015 02:33:53 EST ID:D0apJWhd No.391550 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Martin Turveyford - Sun, 02 Aug 2015 21:05:18 EST ID:jd66LlOf No.391562 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I identify as transwhite and I find this thread offensive.

Failed Male and Misogyny? by Graham Giblingwatch - Thu, 30 Jul 2015 00:05:48 EST ID:Ixs0caaP No.391351 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I feel like a 'failed male'. I don't know how to cope with everyday things like work and socializing and I've always been too shy to make a move on a girl. I know guys like that are pathetic and I wish I wasn't one. As a girl, it would be acceptable for me to not be outgoing. I could live with a man who would know how to work and pay bills. All I would do is stay at home and cook and make things nice for him and be there for sex. If he's a successful guy, I'd earn my keep and wouldn't be as needy or nagging as other women. I wouldn't mind being told what to do. I'd even accept him sleeping with other people. I'd truly appreciate my place.

>tl;dr so pathetic I wish I was a girl who gets treated as a pre equality woman.

How sexist is it to want to be a 50's housewife? Am I alone?

Sometimes I fantasize that he has a female friend I can become friends with. But she's a modern woman with her own life, not like me. So she can emphasize with me on some womanly things, but in other ways she's more like him, and they talk about things way above my level. That makes me not sexist, right? If my dream features a strong independent woman as well as a submissive homemaker?
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Faggy Dallyladge - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 14:20:29 EST ID:pA1KGa1o No.391509 Ignore Report Quick Reply
pls go back to your tumblr hugbox
Martha Bunhood - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 14:43:12 EST ID:Ixs0caaP No.391510 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>You can still be independent and strong and rely on a man
I'm not independent or strong, that's why I want to rely on a man.

>I want a sugar daddy but it doesn't make me any less of a strong woman.
A strong woman is a modern woman who lives like a man and gets a job and doesn't need a husband, except perhaps a househusband, like men need from their wives.
Hugh Blashstig - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 14:55:42 EST ID:LiffyqYq No.391511 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I used to dwell in this shit a lot like "oh why doesnt anyone give a crap about me anymore? why has everyone pseudo left me while still acting friendly and not having the balls to say it straight to my face". TBH that was the most difficult 3 month of my life, surgery pains and fucking 3 time dilations on hand, new endocrine system creating lots of hormonal imbalances on the other hand while I was basically confined to bed out of pain and people treating me like shit. It was kind of like a neverending PMS so in the end it also kinda helped with making me a stereotype so people kinda finally got it. I also gained a shitton of weight during that period.

apart from finally fixing my shit it looks like I will be able to get my MSc by the end of the year and try finding a decent job. I dont give crap about friends anymore, I will always be an alien to them and they wont be ablet to grasp this trans shit. I will work on losing some weight to finally get a decent boobjob and work on refining my voice which would put me at least to a 8/10 which is extremely fine by me.
Priscilla Wandlefoot - Sun, 02 Aug 2015 19:39:55 EST ID:gdtjlP3w No.391560 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You shame us all....
I seriously consider offing myself because I know, even as a sexually competent and integrated transwoman, that this is how the majority of humans see me. Well, I pass, so they don't... but if they knew I was trans - who I really am - I'd be outcasted as a failure of my birth sex.
Shitting Sumblestit - Sun, 02 Aug 2015 20:07:32 EST ID:lXXWKpBM No.391561 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Plsss loosen up lol, strong might could mean a lot of things. It doesn't have to be one or the other(false dichotomy, not that you said it had to be that way). Get creative =P There could be all kinds of potential relationships and give and takes lol.


Glad you got over it and stuff ^_^ While just coming out of a surgery too gah, that's like another level also.

I'm glad you've got things to focus on and do =) I don't worry about making friends or not, not that I think I won't, I think I probably will in fact, at the "right time" and stuff like just don't force things and if something starts clicking with someone great =) doing things gives you opportunities to meet cool people that are also doing things too and all that so it all kinda works out when you just let it go =P Good luck with all of your stuff! =)

Dating by David Dunkinhere - Thu, 30 Jul 2015 21:05:05 EST ID:Ffuvh28d No.391418 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey /cd/ how does dating work if you're taking mones but still presenting as male? I tried using grindr but that's full of guys who just wanna fuck and are gay, but I feel like if I used a straight dating app it would be misleading, and embarassing if a coworker or someone I knew saw me on it.

Meeting people in person doesn't seem to work either, cause I p much only crush on straight guys, for obvious reasons. I'm still presenting as male though, so that rules out that ever working. To make it worse, some people do think I'm a grill even though I'm not trying to present as female, so if some guy does end up flirting with me I have to make sure he knows I have a penis, otherwise shit's gonna hit the fan eventually.

Plus I have the worst self esteem ever, so even if I met a really handsome bi guy or something who was really into me, I'd prolly end it because I'd think he could do so much better with any real female instead of me or at least someone who isn't ugly af and stupid and all that.

And yet being single still seems worse than dealing with all of that, so there goes the easy way out. wtf is someone supposed to do in this situation aside from suicide or something
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Sophie Duggletot - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 15:06:49 EST ID:liUakt9e No.391474 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>gay guys like penis. I hate mine, but they always wanna do stuff with it
i feel like a guy who's gonna top would not be that interested in your penis, but im not a gay male so i couldn't be certain.

Also; you have to just be realistic-if you're presenting as male; you're going to attract people who like men, and vice versa.
if you want to attract people who like women, you need to be more overtly female looking; i think it's as simple as that.
I've heard of transwomen on grindr, so you could try it.
i'd just start being intentionally androgynous or something; but i don't know your situation.

i guess the best alternative for you is to seek out bisexual men?

also, you have to work through those self-esteem issues.
I totally know exactly how you feel though.

Are you only attracted to men?
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David Dunkinhere - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 18:21:49 EST ID:Ffuvh28d No.391479 Ignore Report Quick Reply
they'd still be attracted to the manly bits tho, it'd weird me out. As for the presenting, I am kinda doing the whole androgynous thing but it just ends up being awkward cause some people think I'm a dude and some people think I'm a chick.

and yeah, bi guys are p much the only ones I've ever had luck with. I might consider hooking up with another girl but like romantically I just don't see it happening, plus she'd need to be really pretty manly lol.

how would someone work through self esteem issues? I honestly have no clue how I would even start
Sophie Duggletot - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 18:38:15 EST ID:liUakt9e No.391481 Ignore Report Quick Reply
do you sound female?
if you do, you should just "present" as female.
if people are gendering you female often enough then you're probably passing or close to it. so you may as well just say you're a woman if anyone asks.

you could try one of those lesbian dating apps to find a super butch chick, but they may not be open to dating a transwoman, idk
bi dudes do seem like the best bet; but if you made an okcupid and gendered yourself female there you might strike out

>how would someone work through self esteem issues? I honestly have no clue how I would even start
i can't help you there. therapy? delusion? idk; i have the same issue.
Phoebe Sevingbanks - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 13:03:22 EST ID:9usq7tQQ No.391506 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Quit being a fag, you're just making up reasons not to get out there and do it. I know it's hard when you feel like shit about yourself but you shouldn't assume everyone sees you the way you see yourself. If that was true I'd probably have nobody in my life. There are tons of guys out there that are look specifically for trans girls so you'll find somebody eventually. Btw, you're just as much of a real girl as anyone else.
Ebenezer Blepperwutch - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 21:58:12 EST ID:c/0J/k7H No.391536 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You just shouldn't date during your first year or more of transition, that's not a good time to be thinking about someone else and you could end up blaming them for slowing your progress because they only know you one way. It's very rare not to have problems like that

estro shot question by John Murdwater - Tue, 28 Jul 2015 13:24:23 EST ID:68vsQGEo No.391287 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey peeps, I have been taking an estrogen shot for almost 3 years now, self medicating, I am seeing an edo in a few months.

I read something earlier that confused me about the shots and whether I should take them or not, maybe someone here can help.

It said: Dosing: Sublingual (dissolve oral formulation under the tongue) 1-4mg estradiol/day (single or divided dose), 100-200mcg transdermal estradiol/day, 10-20mg estradiol valerate IM every 1-2 weeks (injections continue for no more than 2 years, then change to lower dosage). (Grade C)

I have only been doing 10mg but yesterday I went to 20mg..
So does this mean I should stop since I have been doing it for more than 2 years?? and should I switch to pills then?

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Lydia Povingten - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 05:29:19 EST ID:+psF/mP7 No.391495 Ignore Report Quick Reply

you would need to ask them the reason, they wont just tell you unless you ask why.

honestly 20mg twice a week scares me a little. thats pretty mental dosage, you would probably start growing tits out of your ears on that dosage.

seriously though, just ask your endo the reasoning behind it, just say you are a little concearned and need to be reassured. i have never heard of 40mg weekly before, thats not just out of the ballpark, thats out in space.
but ask your endo, see what they say.
Hugh Fuckingwell - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 07:56:02 EST ID:qMNcS3vp No.391496 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I just heard that some people need to apply more to get the right levels but besides patches its the safest way to apply hrt...
Simon Hickleded - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 13:06:55 EST ID:29wCwYat No.391507 Ignore Report Quick Reply
E2 levels are gibberish - if you are not pregnant they show absolutely nothing, since they are affected by a variety of factors: estradiol production/intake, metabolism rate, conversion rates, SSBG levels, T3 levels, tissue depot, etc.
The LH/FSH levels are more informative in the sense of enough/not enough, that is, if you're not taking bicalutamide/androcur and you know that your androgen levels are relatively low.
Injections also have not only the ridiculously high start, but also they end in rather low levels of estrogens, which, together, creates a good soil for mood swings.
I use gel and DMSO solution together transdermally.
20 mg per week is too high.
What were your levels?
Jack Hingerridge - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 15:30:59 EST ID:2LYoe54T No.391513 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Estrogen levels fluctuate in natal women overtime as well...
Phyllis Sommlehet - Sun, 02 Aug 2015 05:35:45 EST ID:liUakt9e No.391551 Ignore Report Quick Reply
to ask an unrelated question; do you think it's bad to add progesterone after 16 months?
I'm got a prescription for it, but im not sure if i should take it; i want my tits to grow, but i dont want to fuck up my development or something.

>20 MG twice a week
yeah that was a typo, my bad.
I meant biweekly, as in every other week

i don't see an Endo, i see an informed consent doctor basically; so i dont think he has quite the expertise i'd like.

i think applying the actual gel and trying to leave it on the skin is tedious.

Avodart As Primary AA by Cyril Dandledock - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 07:20:34 EST ID:27jwOMeN No.391461 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Howowitz has me on Avodart instead of Spiro. He claims that it's a more effective AA than Spiro, but everything I've read says that it only blocks DHT as opposed to T. Anybody have experience with this drug?
Reuben Sannerchet - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 09:45:25 EST ID:29wCwYat No.391463 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not Avodart but simply Dutaseride I use as temporary substitution for Cyproterone to avoid pigmentation. On itself it is the "not enough" kind of antiandrogen esp. after spiro, quitting which temporarily ups your gonadotropine levels; and is useless against adrenal androgens!
Wait a month then check T levels.
Though, if you have high estrogen levels it can be enough to block your T production...
What were your LH/FSH levels last time you checked?
Hamilton Dranderville - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 12:00:39 EST ID:0PFJx8Mg No.391468 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I went to Horowitz when I lived there. Been on HRT for 2.5 years, and my levels have always been cool. My new doctor usually prescribes spiro, but since Horowitz's method was working, he didn't change it.

I believe the action of dutasteride is that it prevents T from connecting with the receptors rather than preventing production of T. Pretty much the same effect.

Sometimes I miss Horowitz, he was really nice. When I switched to injections and had some other questions, he sat with me for an hour going over everything. But damn, sometimes the two people who work in his office are apathetic.
Simon Hickleded - Sat, 01 Aug 2015 12:41:50 EST ID:29wCwYat No.391504 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dutasteride inhibits conversion of semi-prohormone with mostly progestagenic activity into a full-blown androgen.
In case of low gonadotropin this is effective, but if your levels are high the effects of androgens are not affected, since it only prevents synthesis of one androgen.

Why keep going with transition? by Alice Bleblingdock - Mon, 27 Jul 2015 10:49:09 EST ID:KIYVYKvu No.391223 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I have terrible constant depression, and I don't feel much anymore, nothing toward transition.

I look back and see most of my problems getting worse when I started transitioning. No confidence, can't put myself out there. Thing is, I pass without issue as far as I'm aware. But when everything comes off, I still see a face and body I'm not happy with, and I feel like I will never be happy with it. Without glasses, makeup, long hair, or feminine clothes, I look like a man with boobs... never very nice boobs either.

I can remember why I started, I even have things written down, but I can't call up those feelings. When I started hormones, I felt nothing different, no change in mood or anything from them. When I see attractive and cute girls, I still envy them. I still want to be like that. Part of me says I can just fine, the depressed and frustrated part says I'll never be like that, even if I could, I'm 28 and missed out on all the experiences of growing up.

So I start considering... is the deal "all or nothing," achieve a body/ face I'm truly happy with or just live as a man again by default? Or would I never be happy as a man, and I should try to get as close to my ideal as possible?

It's hard to imagine being happy after taking care of my depression or unemployment, because it's been 3 years since starting to transition, and I haven't been happy for any of them. Granted I wasn't too happy before then either, and my life was perfect on paper.

I'm scared that I'm thinking about this for the wrong reasons, because it might end up like transition where I lock onto it as a solution and can't let it go until I take action (detransition). I'm also scared I'm thinking about detransition for the right reasons, and I just fucked up the last three years of my life, borrowed and spent way too much, all for an experiment that didn't work. I don't want to believe that it was all a waste, but I don't want to waste any more time, money, effort, and life pursuing something that isn't right.

In my head-state right now, living as a man would at least be "natural." No fake voice, no stressful effort to look 'right,' not spending $50k more on surgeries. Clothes fit my frame right instead of betraying me. At least getting naked with a girl wouldn't make me insecure in front of her, just envious.

Seedy, I have no idea what the fuck I'm asking. Why keep going? What keeps you going when you feel things like this? What kind of questions can I ask to know if I should keep going or if I should just settle for being a straight man?
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Ernest Chuzzlesatch - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 09:17:29 EST ID:lXXWKpBM No.391462 Ignore Report Quick Reply
haha maybe she will! =P

Phoebe Mocklewill - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 18:16:45 EST ID:UD8Yw7I2 No.391478 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well I keep transitioning cause I don't look like a man with boobs, pass pretty well, and while I am depressed sometimes, I am still happier than I was.
Nigger Drunnernatch - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 18:37:03 EST ID:mS7xBqTb No.391480 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thats what everyone thinks
Martha Tillingcocke - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 20:22:28 EST ID:nu5EXvOb No.391486 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>feeling like a man with boobs when the makeup and clothes come off

yep that's me. and it sucks ass

I go to work and people call me pretty and all this stuff and then all I can think is "haha if you saw me naked you wouldn't be saying that"

I seriously still hate my body so much, but at least I've figured out how to hide the shitty parts. makeup, bra inserts, a good haircut + styling and suddenly I look halfway decent.. but then I take it off at home and I just look like old me with long hair and a slightly feminine face. oh and cone tits.. on a male rib cage..
Betsy Bangershit - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 21:29:19 EST ID:1Iwy4Q7t No.391489 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>then I take it off at home and I just look like old me with long hair and a slightly feminine face. oh and cone tits.. on a male rib cage..

This is a one sided question but would the old you do the new dysphoric more depressed you?

Yeson Voice Surgery by Whitey Gappersutch - Thu, 23 Jul 2015 11:40:17 EST ID:NafWDhVd No.391093 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Is this surgery amazing or am I not the only one who thinks the voices don't sound realistic/girly? Discuss
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Nigel Dindledock - Wed, 29 Jul 2015 04:33:23 EST ID:vztj/lKp No.391305 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That was the case for me, yeah. No conscious effort is required (unless i want to sound extra femmey and cute, but that's the way it seems to work for the grand majority of the cis women i know as well).

I actually can't use my old voice even if i try. It's totally gone.
Hugh Clenningmidge - Wed, 29 Jul 2015 09:47:44 EST ID:YE3XAvrl No.391311 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't know, I've been practicing for more than 2 years, but it's not like I can just wake up and start talking. My voice is just fine when I try but only after warming up. I don't know what voice comes out when I'm not trying, but it's not the same.
Charlotte Gobbergold - Wed, 29 Jul 2015 23:29:20 EST ID:GnIKa2Yz No.391350 Ignore Report Quick Reply

im the same as this, i need to warm up or atleast have a good drink of water.
Faggy Singerridge - Thu, 30 Jul 2015 06:17:39 EST ID:lczA4sjB No.391378 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It sounds awfully awful to always be conscious of your voice when talking.
What happens when you cough/sneeze/yawn/get hurt? Does a male voice comes out or a female one?
Faggy Fossleledge - Thu, 30 Jul 2015 11:56:04 EST ID:5c5WTU7S No.391393 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No, it's just a cough/ sneeze/ yawn/ ow. It's not like my voice was deep at all to begin with.

But honestly unless you started before puberty, if you're not conscious of your voice, you probably should be. So many trans women sound like gay men because of this.

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