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Detransitioning after FFS by Jack Wizzlelat - Tue, 24 May 2016 22:32:20 EST ID:I8knYEAZ No.398419 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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i just wanted to write this down, maybe someone can help me properly.

i am 26 years old, had ffs around 2years ago and started hrt almost a year before ffs.

when i got on hrt i gained alot of weight which made my face more soft. after around the 10month mark of ffs i started passing but i still was around 90kg (200lbs), for being 180cm (5'11). i started socialize more and enjoy life but after i lost the weight, due to being happy my face BASICALLY looks like a more attractive version of my old boy self.

so basically my chin is shorter, jaw smaller, cheeks a bit bigger and forehead smooth. yet when i put my hair in a ponytail everyone tells me how much of an attractive man i look like. i really hate that, but i can also see that its true and its fucking me up. i dont know what to do as it feels like i tried everything with having ffs.

when i do my makeup like i used to, and do my hair like i used to - i look like someone trying to crossdress and its really awkward. especially when comparing pictures side by side. even my friends are weirded out and ask me if im off of testosterone.

now my question is, should i just detransition? since i dont wanna be fat and passing. and that seems to be the only way - unless i get so much silicone injected into my cheeks and forehead i start looking like *pic related*

also i feel dysphoric looking into the mirror, almost looking the same i started out as, but i also feel pretty bad when i try to pass in public now and i look like a freak, and i dont mean looking like a freak as in, that it bothers me that strangers perceive me that way, but as in that i literally look like a man in a dress and good hair/makeup which is freaky to me.

please anyone help out here :(
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Priscilla Siblingham - Thu, 26 May 2016 06:39:18 EST ID:sPJhIdOb No.398439 Ignore Report Quick Reply

nb = no bump as in "i just wanted to say something very minor which is worthy of a post but not of a bump"

Shitting Segglebin - Thu, 26 May 2016 14:04:16 EST ID:qAYG3cmk No.398440 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I do say/type it unnecessarily a lot though and lol to myself when I do it when it's already at the top a little which is kinda stupid but yeah haha nb
Shitting Segglebin - Thu, 26 May 2016 14:11:14 EST ID:qAYG3cmk No.398441 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I get what you're saying but it's like it's not because they aren't sure if they're trans or something, it's because they feel like they'll never pass or feel good about themselves and stuff which is a little nuanced, not to mention feelz lol. Like they got ffs you know? though it apparently could go either way still.

Well like your last line, "seems evident they made a mistake," yes not passing is a huge mistake for all transpeople not recommended lol

Again not that I don't get ya and that maybe could be a consideration. It might be a better option how can one ever knowww
Angus Smalldock - Fri, 27 May 2016 12:45:50 EST ID:QK0dXDnJ No.398446 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>everyone tells me how much of an attractive man i look like

Are you in girlmode when they say this? What is your transition status?

There are certain kinds of faces are attractive which have some overlap between
male and female. I'm not phrasing that well but yeah.

Post face pic!
Cyril Bardcocke - Sun, 29 May 2016 01:22:36 EST ID:OsHipT0T No.398460 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How do you not pass after FFS? Post pic please?

Five Days Ago I Made a Thread on /QQ/ by Edwin Breffingfan - Sun, 22 May 2016 20:36:47 EST ID:k5jS+9yi No.398396 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hello. I posted this thread here: http://boards.420chan.org/qq/res/503820.php

In brief summary, I realized that I wanted to be with a MtF woman, and that no one else interested me. I went over why (or at least I tried to), and I talked about how it is really hard for me to find anyone that I really like. Some people chimed in; quite a few said that I was gay, and some were helpful.

I guess I'm bring this up here because I would like to know what you people think about what I wrote, and how you feel about it. I know that there is a lot of people here who hate chasers, but I don't consider myself one, because this is just how it worked out.

In short, any advice/comments are appreciated. I've been very lonely for a while and I kind of want to grow up and experience life with someone for once.
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Molly Nosslenatch - Sat, 28 May 2016 08:45:59 EST ID:JWzYKxaq No.398453 Ignore Report Quick Reply
exchange contact information with that other person lol, get a convo going, a nb one even if you can, a little late now maybe lol, and when you can tell you're both like checking then drop an email so y'all see it before it gets removed =P

also the only thing I really noticed that I was gonna say something is if you're already this scared of anyway finding out you like transgirls thennnn idk if it sounds like you're going to be able to be very respectful to her, not that like she is necessarily going to be big on going out and stuff exactly but still like yeah, unless you expect her to pass flawlessly all the time which is rare realistically? etc etc
Sophie Findergold - Sat, 28 May 2016 21:03:58 EST ID:w7ndXbSD No.398456 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What the fuck? Attributing all of the future going to shit to stormfront? Maybe /pol/, /int/, /x/ and /tv/, and that wouldn't be stormfront per se, it would be more like direct fallout from the hal turner raids, or 'murrican renaissance readers infiltrating parts of it earlier and that having spiralled towards crudeness.

Saying it's stormfront is like all those people who blamed gaiaonline. More realistically, the cancer would have been infused through digg, 9gag, youtube and maybe ED.
Graham Socklewad - Sat, 28 May 2016 22:23:14 EST ID:YycAq8/G No.398457 Ignore Report Quick Reply
what IS an MtF ? sounds like you got yourself a fantasy there...
Basil Daddlefuck - Sat, 28 May 2016 22:27:12 EST ID:QK0dXDnJ No.398458 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I used it as a more general term referring to right-wingers, "redpilled people" etc.
But yes I agree that circlejerk and mainstream sites in general are to blame. Also people broke rules 1 and 2 a lot, and mods were a bit too lax in allowing normalfaggotry IMO. If you look at 7 there are a lot less normalfags per capita than on 4, partially because mods are strict to ban normalfag type posts there. But I'm not sure how much those measures would have ultimately helped; the word eventually gets out once it gets as large-scale as it has.
Sophie Findergold - Sat, 28 May 2016 23:40:47 EST ID:w7ndXbSD No.398459 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Okay, with circlejerk, it's believable.

IMO a more faultable thing would be all the other imageboards going down, like megachan.

So I guess you mean sensing-extraverted types? Compulsives, people who identify-as-normal, and take it upon themselves to be the vanguard of "standing up for normalness"?

7chan is pretty repulsive because it went off the deep end with the image-focus.

what do by Priscilla Finninghug - Sun, 01 May 2016 23:18:37 EST ID:uZjB8WIm No.398177 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I went to like a gymnastics gym today like I've been meaning to for a while! It was cool, they were having like an opening but I wanted to try to get over the fear of doing a backflip like in general that is why a gym like that is good and I totally tried like 4 and didn't land like I was all crouched and touched with my hands but I totally just went for it and I think the little bit of cactus did help but anyway I need to be able to tuck better

tuck better

oh no
I'm never going to be able to talk about it or someone talk to me about it with a straight face

I would like to think
but more like slightly horrified lol

maybe it won't come up so much
I should work on my tuck
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Graham Buzzhall - Fri, 27 May 2016 22:46:56 EST ID:sPJhIdOb No.398448 Ignore Report Quick Reply

They should. an old "skewl" method was to wear 2 sizes smaller underwear, but yeah, its not a whole day thing as tucking shouldnt be as it was made by drag queens for performances and it can cause serious discomfort if you tuck too much.
Albert Pommlesure - Fri, 27 May 2016 23:00:12 EST ID:QK0dXDnJ No.398449 Ignore Report Quick Reply

It doesn't need to be taught and tight. It just needs to be like in place and flaccid, and you testicles need to be inside your inguinal canals. Yeah maybe your panties are too loose? Or even too tight. Try another size, and try to pick panties with like a wider vag-section which can like span the width of your penis better. But too tight and you "pressurize it" which makes it want to escape from a physics point of view or w.e, and too loose and it might just flop out or whatever.

If you have a very slight bulge (bulging downwards, not outwards) it's not a big problem I think because women also have like some "meat" in their vag lips and stuff.

What is your tucking method?

Do you keep getting erections during the day? That can also fuck it up. How is your testosterone level?

I could also be wrong so I'm not 100% sure.
Betsy Brirrymerk - Sat, 28 May 2016 06:11:49 EST ID:4RBfZzd0 No.398452 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>If you have a very slight bulge (bulging downwards, not outwards) it's not a big problem I think because women also have like some "meat" in their vag lips and stuff.

this is what I have and it makes me uncomfortable. i want it to be flat enough that the space between my hips is visible if that makes sense?
or perhaps i need to try and quell that desire?

I'm tall but "small" in general; thin, narrow, so my regular size is a small; all of my panties are smalls, i've purchased mediums before, but those are too loose, usually
> But too tight and you "pressurize it" which makes it want to escape from a physics point of view or w.e,
i've never thought of this, but that makes alot of sense.

nah, i dont get spontaneous erections, i'll get a little hard if i'm doing something sexual though; but that happens so rarely it may as well be never

for daily tucking I use a gaff
when I use tape I'm always experimenting, but the most of the time, i'd make kind of a "T" with the tape, wrap the scrotum around the balls, and then pull that back with the sticky side of the remaining tape faceing my taint and stuff, so that way i'd be tucked but i could pee without doing anything
and that was almost close enough to work, but the tape would cut into my skin on my junk, sometimes and that was so painful I needed to undo it usually. or the tape on my taint and such would lose its stick, i guess because me moving around would make the edges fray, and then it'd roll on on the sides get too thin, and then not be on enough skin to remain stuck. (does that make sense?)
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Albert Pommlesure - Sat, 28 May 2016 10:11:00 EST ID:QK0dXDnJ No.398454 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Nice guide in that pic. Okay if' I'm understanding you right, you aren't tucking your testicles into your inguinal canals? That's a very important step as it puts the volume of your testicles out of the way, leaving just the penis and empty scrotum, which is much easier to work with.

What I do:

>grab with one hand on "tip" of scrotum
>grab with other hand's fingers around the scrotum so as to isolate the testicles on the proximal (near to the body) side.
>then gradually pull/squeeze your scrotum through the loop made by your other hands, like a tube of toothpaste, pushing your testicles upwards into the body
>eventually the testicles can go past your dick, and will be in like these "pouches" called the inguinal canals which were used to bear the testicles downwards during development
>then hold the testicles in place with one hand, and with the other, pull the empty scrotum back under your taint/vag area.
>then pull the penis back overlaying the empty scrotum.
>then while keeping a hand on your penis pull up your panties which will hold your penis/scrotum in place and as a result hopefully keep your testicles in your inguinal canal

If you haven't don't this method before it might feel strange to push your testicles up into those canals. But don't worry; I do it all the time with no problems.
Edward Wondlefuck - Sat, 28 May 2016 10:35:42 EST ID:1trzOojR No.398455 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've tried that tape method, and it's a bitch to find medical tape that wide (unless you pay a stupidly high price compared to thinner tapes) and it really doesn't work well.

I tape up about once every month or two, sometimes more often depending on dysphoria. I did do a drawing of my technique but it was like a shitty 10 minute drawing that wasn't the best and it's on my old computer so might be lost to the world.
ofc you need to be as clean shaven as possible
start by pushing balls in inguinal canal, then folding the scrotum over, keeping the skin tight (tight enough to hold balls in place). Tape diagonally down towards center of body. You want the tape to first go underneath the penis. Tape enough so nothing is gonna pop out, then push penis down. You might want to wrap a small piece of tissue around the tip, especially if circumcised as I imagine removing would be painful, but tbh I usually don't. Start with a few horizontal placements at the tip (leaving a small gap so you can still pee) and work up to the base, then do lots of diagonal pieces, and a couple horizontal underneath your new clit to secure it better.

You always want to ideally have both ends of the tape on skin, as opposed to on a layer of tape. Once taped as flat as possible I also like to line the edges so there's less chance of a loose piece catching. Don't tape on to your legs, you want complete movement of them without it feeling like it's pulling. Having too much over the butt does the same.

Peeing is a little more difficult but should still be possible. I've taped tight enough that I couldn't pee before and that was super uncomfortable and had to immediately remove it. To remove, plenty of water is good, a bit of lube is better. You don't want to be wearing the tape for more than 24 hours. Seriously, just don't. I've left it on for 2 days before and taking it off showed rashes and it was painfully itchy for days. I'd recommend less than 12h tbh.

It's great though. I kinda have to restrict myself because I like doing it too much and my skin would be awful and painful if I did it every single day. I can have someone go down on me while I&…
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passing by William Gimmerlat - Sun, 13 Mar 2016 21:02:25 EST ID:1fdAawx+ No.397695 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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holy shit
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Phyllis Greenridge - Thu, 19 May 2016 22:09:13 EST ID:NPLjfKoa No.398346 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Mah, you'll always be my eddy
Lydia Pockson - Fri, 20 May 2016 09:08:36 EST ID:pCmAN/Xr No.398349 Ignore Report Quick Reply
show us your dad instead
Cyril Chennerchen - Tue, 24 May 2016 10:33:52 EST ID:Tanyw1YF No.398414 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Betsy Dabberdale - Tue, 24 May 2016 11:03:47 EST ID:sPJhIdOb No.398415 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Just goes to show you how important wearing model make up for a photo is! very well done imo.
Reuben Gondlegold - Thu, 26 May 2016 16:48:45 EST ID:d6o5dY8O No.398443 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The thumbnail is messed up due to the shitty server software, but the image came through OK

Starting HRT dosage by Phoebe Saffingsatch - Wed, 25 May 2016 20:15:15 EST ID:ctIrC5+Q No.398432 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I just had my first appointment with my endo today, and he prescribed me 25mg spiro and 1mg estradiol daily. I didn't really check until I got home, and now that I'm reading around this seems really, really low. He did say that he likes to start people off with a smaller dose, but it just seemed way too low.

Can anyone give any input on this?
Priscilla Siblingham - Wed, 25 May 2016 20:19:53 EST ID:sPJhIdOb No.398433 Ignore Report Quick Reply

this is quite commonly done by doctors. aslong as you arent on it for longer than a few months you should be good. i think they try to achieve less of a mood swing or something?

regardless, if you're unhappy go back and say that they must have made a mistake on the amount they prescribed and act confused or something.
Phoebe Saffingsatch - Wed, 25 May 2016 20:22:11 EST ID:ctIrC5+Q No.398434 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well, he did say to call back in three months and he'd up the dosage, and I've got an appointment in 6 months to get my blood work done, and I'm assuming he's going to up the dosage then, as well. But OK, that is quite reassuring. Thanks for the info!
Cyril Fezzlebadging - Wed, 25 May 2016 23:22:48 EST ID:oZOYyLaB No.398435 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Ive read of doctors starting patients off on low doses like that just to be safe, it seems to be a pretty common thing. Nothing to worry about. :) enjoy your 'mones! I miss mine.
Archie Lightwill - Thu, 26 May 2016 04:47:34 EST ID:inKOXpwd No.398438 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That is indeed very, very low. I have a doctor who starts patients with 100mg. She works her way up to 200mg following blood work. I would suggest you find another doctor.
Phoebe Saffingsatch - Thu, 26 May 2016 15:26:47 EST ID:ctIrC5+Q No.398442 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah I called today to ask about the dosage, but the nurse wasn't in so I left a voicemail. They should be getting back to me tomorrow, though.

If they are just starting me out on a low dose, and they'll increase it to a normal level down the road, that's fine with me. I just want to know what the plan there is, haha.

Self Orchi thread by Barnaby Wozzlewell - Fri, 08 Jan 2016 03:05:01 EST ID:3sWRfe0v No.396549 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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A few years ago I remember seeing a thread where someone performed self orchi and then cooked her testicles. Does anyone still have screencaps or anything?
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Jarvis Honnerdeck - Sat, 19 Mar 2016 01:00:30 EST ID:+IRTu/ek No.397750 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Jesus was a special snowflake and more deluded than anyone in this thread..
Cedric Dettingherk - Wed, 18 May 2016 17:37:26 EST ID:8qLexjlN No.398340 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Nell Sadgeben - Sun, 22 May 2016 10:42:29 EST ID:h+xYeFhY No.398392 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No one gonna mention the eunuch.org threads about injecting ethyl alcohol into your testicles to render them 'pretty fucked'?
princesa_cuntington - Mon, 23 May 2016 04:06:01 EST ID:6y+sBMUF No.398403 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'd need to get pretty fucked to ever consider that.

Nell Changerfone - Tue, 24 May 2016 13:57:11 EST ID:QK0dXDnJ No.398417 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Why? It's an easy way to chemically castrate yourself and ethyl alcohol is the edible kind that humans drink all over the world.

Get Spiro without prescription? by Reuben Hickleforth - Fri, 18 Mar 2016 22:33:18 EST ID:czk89Dbq No.397744 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm thinking I might be trans.. (MtF)

I've been considering this for about 3 years now, I started taking some pueraria mirifica these past few months and I think it's been good but there's just not a ton of effect from this.

I am still dependent on parents financially/medically, and they don't believe in the whole "trans" thing. Also, were I to transition, I would not want to ever do the drag thing that all trans people seem to feel compelled to do. I would just dress/hairstyle gender-neutral. And I wouldn't ever try to pretend that I were actually female (or bother others with my delusions). Also, my personality is generally a bit too happy-go-lucky to convince a therapist that I had the right sort of manic-depressive desperation they look for to deem someone "trans".

My plan is to, for now:
>Drink a fuckton of licorice tea
>Take 2g pueraria mirifica per day (and HOPEFULLY Spiro if I can get some)
>general femboy routine overall (lots of yoga+cardio, shaving body, etc)
Once I get into college I will switch out the pueraria, doing 3 weeks pueraria and then 1 week taking lots of soy milk and saw palmetto repeatedly.

But I cannot find any Spiro available!
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Phoebe Fushman - Sun, 01 May 2016 08:00:20 EST ID:uZjB8WIm No.398174 Ignore Report Quick Reply
read thread nb
Hannah Fedgespear - Mon, 23 May 2016 21:51:58 EST ID:63D/4wyd No.398410 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Can someone post a picture of the package from inhousepharmacy, as-is like it comes straight from the post office?
I am considering having a close friend pick this up since my post office's employees are quintessential government worker cunts and I'm worried they're going to start causing problems, I'm already getting funny looks from the pueraria orders

But I'm wondering if I have to let the friend in on it ;_;
Betsy Dabberdale - Tue, 24 May 2016 02:37:43 EST ID:sPJhIdOb No.398412 Ignore Report Quick Reply

its a plain white box, the tag says "pharmaceuticals" under contents. you can hear the pills in the box when you move it around.
Ernest Sallerpire - Tue, 24 May 2016 11:58:00 EST ID:czk89Dbq No.398416 Ignore Report Quick Reply
William Gindledock - Wed, 25 May 2016 08:09:58 EST ID:qAYG3cmk No.398426 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sometimes there's an extra like white bag around it that probably says the same stuff as in nothing more than that concerning the contents anyway

trans fearzone by Emma Lighthall - Mon, 23 May 2016 02:39:14 EST ID:CM8akhRi No.398400 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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hi i'm 23 and have just begun to take baby steps toward transitioning ftm -- i'm saving for top surgery regardless, but have some reservations with regards to taking t that i don't really know what to do with/think about.

basically i've had a life-disrupting eating disorder since i was 12 that is pretty dysphoria-related, and i have a consequent gigantic fear (duh) of gaining weight in any way. i'm at the point where for me recovery doesn't seem like an option because it would so badly fuck me up -- i have a shitty crazy brain that's necessitated my being hospitalized numerous times (and am real bad at med compliance because i'm so cripplingly afraid of gaining weight), am a recovering opi addict, and pretty much cling to my remaining coping mechanisms for dear life because if i didn't i'd fucking kill myself. my fear with t is that once i start to take it i'll gain weight -- like far be it from me to assume i know everybody's transition, because i don't, but for me every transguy i have seen who's taken t HAS gained at least some weight, and that is fucking terrifying. i see them and i always think i'd lose it or kill myself if that happened to me, which i am aware is fucking dumb. my body shape has always been pretty hourglassy and feminine even when i've been severely underweight, and i know there's not a ton i can do about bone structure, so i don't have high hopes for what t could do for me bodily.

i know emotionally it would probably help a lot with my dysphoric feelings. but i cannot dispel this fear of starting t and becoming a disgusting fucking chubby landwhale dude which is not attractive or ok to me at all personally, and being stuck mid-transition regretting it and feeling like a monster.

so what i'm interested in hearing about is if any of you, guys and girls all, have some similar aesthetically/psychologically pressing neuroses happening w/r/t hormones and transition and mutant-fear, and how you deal with it and what you think. also advice? sorry if i sound stupid. i'm floundering here and i just moved to really rural area so hey wassup fearzone
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Martin Fuckingstone - Mon, 23 May 2016 16:22:50 EST ID:brHbjvTk No.398406 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah definitely get into exercising more, because exercising will increase your appetite too, plus to get the best out of exercise a well rounded diet is good as you don't tire as quickly and it really speeds up the whole muscle building process.

I used to be pretty active and enjoyed doing a lot of cycling but I stopped because I was worried about muscle staying where it was when I transitioned as well as having little to no time due to studying so I didn't do any exercise at all for about 3 years, which really didn't help anything and tbh probably threw me down a worse path mentally as well as physically, but I'm slowly getting back on that horse (well bike) and starting riding again.
Proud of you for quitting heroin though. I've found the most destructive and addicting paths are often ones created in your own head. An ED will always stay in the back of your mind no matter how old you get, but you have to fight it and you have to believe that it's going to get better and easier to deal with.
Sophie Nocklecheg - Mon, 23 May 2016 17:41:40 EST ID:qAYG3cmk No.398407 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I was gonna say exercising, more specifically trying to build muscle, especially with T but also without. But to gain muscle you need a caloric surplus, and typically when one is gaining muscle they will gain some fat too and then they can cut the fat while attempting to maintain the muscle. But there are things that might go better, I've gotten myselfin some weird eating places I guess, just lately I haven't been eating enough and yeah it hasn't helped my hips/boobs and sometimes I get a bit wooozyy if I do it too much ha but yeah I don't think I'd say I have an eating disorder? Basically thoughhh, actually even before transitioning, I came across the site "leangains" and it talks about using an eating window and stuff and I liked that for a while but sometimes I think I will go too long without eating then not make it up when I do eat like I usually do. I mighttt not have the healthiest eating habits lol, I often won't eat much through the day(though I am more because of all of this) and then basically binge/eat a whole days worth of calories in the evening(which is close-ish but not exactly to the leangains thing) which yeah with the help of weed and stuff haha. Recently though I still didn't have an appetite which is why the recent stuff but yeah, anyway thoughhh. Also maybe limited food options occasionally.

The other poster brought up something I didn't think about that running might increase your appetite which could help, as long as you actually eat more, but otherwise, running/cardio isn't necessarily the best idea if you already have trouble eating enough, as it just burns calories, and it doesn't do much for muscle building either if you do want to try that(if anything again it takes away calories you would want for building muscles). And yeah part of my original thought after reading your OP was that you could try to work out, when you started T particularly but you can also do this without T ofc, so that you can gain more muscle than fat. But that takes eating enough. And if you're struggling then cardio will just drain calories you need for building muscle. You can burn just as much or more calories weight lifting/doing muscle building reps…
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Emma Lighthall - Mon, 23 May 2016 18:11:34 EST ID:CM8akhRi No.398408 Ignore Report Quick Reply
cause of my ed i am not into really gaining any kind of weight whether it's muscle or fat. my huge fear is gaining any weight at all. i just want to be able to read okay as a boy so i don't get called a girl all the time -- i have like zero buck angel type fantasies about being musclebound and powerful and sexy. like i said, recovery seems like a joke at this point -- i'm okay being a weedy pale little fuck, as long as i don't have to have boobs or girl hips, i just want to be able to transition without ending up like all the chubby ftms i see everywhere. it's not like i'm gonna kms if it's not possible, but if weight gain/noticeable gain in mass is something that's totally part and parcel of taking t then i think i'm probably gonna have to not take t and find a surgeon who'll do top surgery if i'm fulltime but not on hormones.
Sophie Nocklecheg - Mon, 23 May 2016 18:48:37 EST ID:qAYG3cmk No.398409 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That's fine ofc, just throwing it out there. Like I said as far as weight loss and gain, calories in vs calories out. You might have to change your habits some depending on how T might affect you(I don't know, just assuming that it might, and in whatever way idk again, base calories need etc presumably would be the only relevant thing that could be affected but again I don't know about it specifically), but that's totally doable. More or less calories and/or exercise(though calories probably most importantly because just one calorific snack can potentially negate a good bit of say cardio, etc) =) and I'm not suggesting a particular course of action either just sainggg. And again I guess will mention that working out and gaining some muscle or muscle instead of fat in no way means you are going to be musclebound and powerful all of the sudden, but yeah
Betsy Dabberdale - Tue, 24 May 2016 05:41:23 EST ID:sPJhIdOb No.398413 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Hey op, as you said in your post about seeing guys on t gaining weight, it unfortuntly is a thing that is definetly going to happen or you will fall back into your disorder.

The reason is when you take T your body goes into puberty mode, where it will try to get as much energy as possible to redevelop your body, so for T for example, T is going to try and build muscle mass in your body and will basically make you want to eat things to get that muscle.

for us transwomen its the same with boobs and general body, it forces us to want to eat things because well its puberty.

SO yeah, workout as it is obviously an issue for you, but your bodies primary focus will be to obtain muscle mass.

ara ara by James Pockfield - Sat, 21 May 2016 11:34:36 EST ID:kDwV0Gni No.398372 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Does any one else feel like they use to be a person and now feel as though they are a commodity in the eyes of the world and it will prevent them from ever leaving the unending sense of loneliness and freakishness ?
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James Sadgedock - Sun, 22 May 2016 15:13:28 EST ID:BGrnW/J3 No.398394 Ignore Report Quick Reply
To be fair to the media attention, there have been positive monies spent and content generated that is very supportive and inclusive of transgender issues. Some of it is awesome and inspiring. Some of it is heartbreaking, but spreads important awareness. The momentum can and has shown the potential to do great things.

Why hasn't there been more research into better, safer, more economical HRT, FFS, or SRS? Top surgery? No positive attention, resulting in no funding for the research.

Why are we still being harassed, bullied, beaten, raped or murdered because we exist? No understanding. Hate is bred from total ignorance and a fear of the unknown, rooting from a lack of understanding. Or people are monsters, I don't know if anything can fully protect us.

Media attention should be a powerful tool for positive attention and outreach, but sadly ours will probably be gone soon enough unless some very rich people decide to give very much of a shit.
Molly Bommerway - Sun, 22 May 2016 22:26:41 EST ID:w7ndXbSD No.398397 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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No, I found a way out of it - stick it to those counting on you to use you as a pawn for the side you're expected to be with. Rip in to them for having those sick dispositions - that doesn't mean overtly, just any way you can. Turn them into a depersonalised item, discover how they are the freaks, work with that.
Molly Bommerway - Mon, 23 May 2016 02:14:17 EST ID:w7ndXbSD No.398399 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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It can be in essence a straightforward response path: dig at what it is that makes them feel fulfilled through the political song and dance and shit on it. You can't be a commodity if attempting to cash you in or accounting-ize you just blows up in their faces.
Molly Bommerway - Mon, 23 May 2016 03:35:47 EST ID:w7ndXbSD No.398402 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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"Commodity" is vague about the number it refers to. It feels clearer to me to say that transpeople together constitute a partisan resource, and this can't be helped much, I guess you may feel like less of a partisan resource if you disconnect from other transpeople? On the individual end, a complaint transperson becomes a political football, that part is more obvious to deal with, those who aren't compliant avoid being good political footballs.

I'm craving to agree in a huge way, but it seems that this one just make for an exceptionally gory scapegoating, with being a massive touchy point for people for a very long time.
Oliver Bemmerfork - Tue, 24 May 2016 01:12:42 EST ID:w7ndXbSD No.398411 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Throughout its existence, media attention has been very negative. So it's a straightforward solution to just snap away from the media's crap in general, to never for one minute put up with it without taking it with a handful of salt.

I'm having severe doubts that this is actually a particularly solid way to wrap your head around the essence of being commoditized, but if you could pull that off, it would mean being able to catch people for commoditizing others in various, often easier to punish situations.

Is it really a bad thing to think that transsexuality shouldn't be celebrated or hailed? by princesa_cuntington - Wed, 18 May 2016 00:50:56 EST ID:6y+sBMUF No.398321 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I hate that trans folks these days celebrate it. I don't see what's to be proud of. I only see it as a mistake that should be corrected via transitioning.

I can't really see how this is a negative thing to say, because I'm not saying that it's *bad* to be trans but that it's not good and that it should be something we fix and move on.

It's why I wanna go stealth and never, ever mention transness again once my surgeries are all done.
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Nigel Blallyfuck - Sat, 21 May 2016 10:32:28 EST ID:qAYG3cmk No.398368 Ignore Report Quick Reply
And too many nice transwomen spew vitriol because of this kinda thing so let it gooooo plus exactly what person said pretty much. ^_^
Oliver Pirryman - Sun, 22 May 2016 03:43:58 EST ID:ikKOO2ZV No.398390 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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haha, enjoy your sheltered life.
Albert Bishham - Sun, 22 May 2016 17:09:08 EST ID:H30/80Up No.398395 Ignore Report Quick Reply

well like the awareness HAS to be there. the lack of awareness is why so many of us waited until after 20. so if some cool normal guys/ girls are comfortable being out, great. as long as their purpose is (1) acceptance of the necessity of transition and (2) to show that we can be just normal people (which means we can be insane/ assholes/ fags, just like any other group)

I'm done with everything and hardly think about or talk about transition. I come back here and some other boards infrequently, just to see what's going on. I don't identify as a trans woman, I don't tell people I'm trans, and thankfully I don't think anyone can tell. I'm happy again, like I haven't been in many years. I'm just living a normal life as a normal person.

I'm glad that there were people who showed me that you can successfully transition, even if I'm not going to post pictures and be public/ explicit about my past. Transitioning sucked, being trans is not something I'd celebrate, but I'd champion the availability of transition as an option for those who need it.
Jarvis Fenderforth - Mon, 23 May 2016 02:56:34 EST ID:SsGHaSAG No.398401 Ignore Report Quick Reply
on one hand i dont care about labels and judgments; however, that leads inevitably to "why are you a woman" and "what is a woman." i am not about to legitimize my trans feelings to strangers and family every fucking day. i just want to live. those feelings they are there and they're slowly always killing me. transition is the cure. theres this song by ariel pink "menopause man," its a relief. it has a line "you know youre trying too hard // trying too hard to be what you already are." im only strong because i am a strong person and know what i am and have always known, regardless of the sway over my emotions that hormones and being inherently batshit and trans creates. i dont want to go stealth; i dont want to pass for anyone but me. i only care if im confident in me. you cant please everyone; you shouldnt please people, you should just pass. it isnt as hard as you make it in your mind, so fuck what people think.

that said, really i prefer being more passable always because i do not want to have the discussion. how often do men and women who are cis have to explain and rationalize their peculiarities and be judged harshly for their expression of gender? usually you have be a dyke or a fag and then get ridiculed, and even then those people dont salt their own wounds over feeling out of place with dysphoria. most people dont live their crazy lives around one fucking issue. so why do i have to?

why do i have to worry about passing that much? just leave me alone. im a eunuch. a chemical nightmare already. i wouldnt have done this to myself if i didnt want it so badly id hurt this much to be happy. im unlovable and dont love anyone. i am basically asexual, asocial, and a mess. so id like to live without these constant arguments and passive aggressive quips.

i dont believe i am a real woman because no one treats me as one and never will. i wont treat myself like that either, ill let you oppress me just do it and let me laugh externally and cry inside. if it makes it quicker, ill enable them. i dont care about gender. i will break down if i have to justify anymore. i know that denial like this is just a more advanced form of repression that comes with resenting p…
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Jack Monkinfield - Tue, 24 May 2016 14:17:46 EST ID:isvwVh3x No.398418 Ignore Report Quick Reply
and you yours, if you can get your head outta your ass long enough.

Getting SRS in Australia by Quantumcake - Sun, 22 May 2016 04:13:03 EST ID:vpWTo4J+ No.398391 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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A little history; I started hormones at 18, I went F/T at 19, I'm now almost 25. I am stealth, and honestly want to remain that way.

I've had some ups and downs financially, but now I'm finally in a stable, reasonably high paying job and I am looking at getting SRS this year, or early next year.
I'm okay with paying a premium for something that ends up being both cosmetically and functionally amazing/goodlooking/etc. I've waited this long, I can wait a little longer. So if I have to go O/S I will, but given the type of job that I have, I can't really get much time off.

Sooooo.... has anyone on here, who is in Australia had surgery in Australia? Specifically with the newer surgeon Dr Andrew Ives?
From talking to my endocrinologist, she said "50%" of people are happy with him. To be honest that is a little concerning.

Any information on this surgeon/opinions/pictures of results (obviously don't do that if you don't feel comfortable) would be appreciated.


Stories by Samuel Turveywell - Thu, 19 May 2016 19:38:16 EST ID:BGrnW/J3 No.398344 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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This is a TL;DR, but I wanted to share my story. Feel free to hide if this feels bloggy, I'm just putting it out there.

My first experience with therapy was in my very early years, and was not fruitful. Man in a suit asks to see my drawings, which I think is an in to the industry. I was maybe 10. I show him my best technical work. This leads to him finding out nothing about me.

I didn’t bring him my first submission to ConceptArt.org. It’s a forum for professional artists. My feeble attempt to win a Wacom tablet led to my true self portrait. I looked into a mirror and drew myself. Instead of the short, boyish haircut I had, I drew the long straight locks I wished I had. I was told in critique that the face was good, but it looked like the hair wasn’t drawn with a reference. My hair didn’t exist. I was 12.

My next seat in the chair was a few years later. This time lasted much longer. 3 years, twice a week with a therapist, once a week with a psychiatrist. I sought help for my gender dysphoria, possibly a route to hormonal treatment. I was 14 when I started. I was 17 when I stopped, just after puberty. The psychiatrist turned out to be a group therapy with my parents, where I felt muzzled and stifled. They took the initiative to turn all of the conversations over to my schooling. Every single time. My therapist was easier to talk to, and we had regular conversations about my feelings and their confusion. At the end of the day, though, it was fruitless. Her questions boiled down to blasE surface level conversations such as “What would you be wearing right now if you were born female?” that at first seemed refreshing. Nobody had ever asked me that before! Upon answering that I wanted to be black skirted, leather jacketed Joan Jett knockoff, she thought I my reply wasn’t feminine enough.

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Nigel Blallyfuck - Sat, 21 May 2016 16:38:36 EST ID:qAYG3cmk No.398384 Ignore Report Quick Reply
And actually if we're going there, not doing something or doing something important for your happiness for the sake of a romantic or not even relationship with someone else is definitely a sketchy idea, haha. It could easily ruin whatever you're trying to preserve by not doing what you need to do, anyway. I just said all that shit about happiness not necessarily being all it's cracked up to be as a life goal but if you are literally never happy and it's always shitty and youknow it always will be(not that one can know that), what is the point? That being said too, I wouldn't commit suicide even if life was shitty because of my mom and I would spend my life helping take care of my mom and brother at my own expense, I say from here, not being confronted with those things, but I'd like to think anyway, so I kinda get that too. But like, just, no, yes. I'm not suggesting any particular course of action, just considerations.

You may understand about nose to the grindstone, which is hard lesson, probably further along than me with it, but you sound like you might be a bit naive still in oh sayy the area of relationships and losing things and starting again. How long have y'all dated? Is she the only person you've felt this way about so far? Etc, rhetorical, no need to answer. But yeah. Good luck ^_^ haha
Nigel Blallyfuck - Sat, 21 May 2016 16:40:55 EST ID:qAYG3cmk No.398385 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also sPJ has been through her fair share of shit and not getting what she wants so to speak presumably, and having to do what she must, from things I've heard from her, but she can handle that or not lol. nb all of these lol
Priscilla Honkinbore - Sat, 21 May 2016 22:31:54 EST ID:ONfyKInb No.398387 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Make this thread stop, my brain hurts from trying to keep up with the marathon essays about almost nothing
Sidney Hammlefuck - Sun, 22 May 2016 02:24:14 EST ID:EoyxZRX/ No.398388 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This thread is amazing, particularly these
which are just spot-on.
But yeah don't transition, it's a fucking meme. Just run away from the internet and this stupid ass delusional fantasy ocd obsession. Marry your gf, have a kid, divorce your gf, get a new job, live a real life. The trans thing is a dead end path to nowhere. I can say that as somebody who followed it.
Matilda Grandway - Sun, 22 May 2016 03:33:18 EST ID:AqbHV929 No.398389 Ignore Report Quick Reply
derp derp derp, denial

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