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No results from HRT? by Eliza Pitthall - Mon, 06 Jul 2015 05:15:07 EST ID:GeUdzNSM No.390351 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So who here had like... almost no results from HRT? I've been on it for 3 years and I feel like my face hasn't changed at all. I wasn't very masculine to begin with but I feel like one of the unlucky ones that had no changes and I'm stuck in this weird andro limbo. I def look like a dude when I get out of the shower when my hair is flat and tossed back.

Everyone keeps saying if you're skinny it just takes longer for changes to happen but 3 years seems a bit too much for nothing to happen. Didn't enjoy any weight gain from hormones

Not posting pics so don't bother asking, just wanna know others' experiences
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Nell Cengerfoot - Mon, 06 Jul 2015 07:06:34 EST ID:jkG0+QQt No.390356 Ignore Report Quick Reply
weight doesnt mean anything
I am very skinny and
i noticed some changes in my first three months but like everyone says here
ymmv
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Samuel Dudgeherk - Mon, 06 Jul 2015 07:15:14 EST ID:ANhnyAXt No.390357 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390351
hrt doesn't change that much past 16, after that point it's more about stopping T for screwing you further, progress should come from surgeries
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Nigger Tillingstock - Tue, 07 Jul 2015 01:44:47 EST ID:y1tG84X4 No.390413 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390357
This tbh. There's a reason almost all trannies who are actually serious about blending eventually go towards surgeries. Yes even the youngish ones.
Re educate yourself on what hrt actually does and can do, gain some weight, and consider ffs
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William Creddlelat - Tue, 07 Jul 2015 13:34:16 EST ID:mw6iMT9S No.390439 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390357
I was fairly youthful looking and started hrt at 23, and I pass ok, but I had an existing hormone imbalance that made me a late bloomer. It does have some pretty impressive impact on facial dat redistribution that's too subtle to notice personally (seeing your own face every day) but others notice. Depending on the individual, their point of nonsurgical no return masculinity can be anywhere from 18 to 30s.
Earlier the better holds very true though.
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Fucking Wozzlewig - Tue, 07 Jul 2015 13:45:53 EST ID:ANhnyAXt No.390440 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390439
it does affect face , but due to unchanged bone structure it's not enough on itself


Difficulty getting estradiol scripts filled by Walter Dettingbore - Sat, 04 Jul 2015 10:02:47 EST ID:a9JjOceJ No.390250 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Has anyone had trouble recently getting injectible estrogen recently?
two different pharmacy chains have failed to fill my prescription in the last 8 months, about to go on 2 weeks w/o E and I'm really feeling it ;--;
I went like a month or something w/o E at the start of this year, and it really sucked.

My script is for estradiol valerate, but they're saying that the manufacture doesn't make it anymore..i'm getting a generic anyway most of the time, so what is the problem exactly?

The chains are CVS and Walgreens idk, thoughts?
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Basil Dussledine - Sun, 05 Jul 2015 09:02:06 EST ID:a9JjOceJ No.390296 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390269
huh, i've always been on injections, it's always seemed like the best method to me; I only have to do it once a week or biweekly, and i don't have to worry about it outside of that.
patches seem like too much of a hassle, and i like to wear tight clothing, so it looks like my only other option is pills.
>>390263
I'm close enough that I could attempt to see that guy, does he treat trans people specifically?
I just go to an informed consent clinc presently, but if I could get transferred to someone else, maybe I'd be better off; it's not like they really monitor or tailor my dose where I go currently.
>>390260
Right, the pharmacy is saying that that can't get the drug to fill it. I have plenty of refills left on that script; i only got 1 vial, and I'm pretty sure there were 3 or 4 vials on the prescription.

I've never had an insurance problem with hormones; I've only had issues getting Estradiol Valerate because the pharmacies will tell me that the manufacturer isn't providing it or corporate isn't getting it, or it's not in the system....shit like that.
>>390254
it seems like injections are the most common form of E behind pills.

interesting that it's being discontinued worldwide..this is a pain in the ass
>>390253
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Cornelius Brullywit - Tue, 07 Jul 2015 02:30:43 EST ID:PvH3+L0e No.390419 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390296

http://www.ashp.org/menu/DrugShortages/CurrentShortages/Bulletin.aspx?id=1186

Should be back on the market in august.

You can ask your doctor about switching to depo estradiol (estradiol cypionate) in the meanwhile for injectables; it's not as common for transwomen but it's an available alternative.

Injectables will always be on the market, at least until implants become more popular, there's always a corner of the market for people with poor dermal transmission who don't want to deal with daily pills.
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Fanny Sodgedock - Tue, 07 Jul 2015 04:07:18 EST ID:nDtpqLIL No.390421 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I used to go to a pharmacy that compounded estradiol valerate themselves; http://www.stroheckersrx.com/

Im not sure where you live but maybe look for someplace like that
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William Creddlelat - Tue, 07 Jul 2015 13:20:44 EST ID:mw6iMT9S No.390437 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390419
Not them but same problem, Delestrogen stopped making shit for a while.
do you think maybe we should just say fuck it and go for patches again? They seemed pretty effective when I had them.
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Jenny Tootham - Tue, 07 Jul 2015 13:27:38 EST ID:liUakt9e No.390438 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390419
huh, thanks, i see.
well...I'm already gonna have to go most of July without E, I wonder if I can just get a temporary script for pills and then switch back to injections come September.

Is there a big difference between cypionate and valerate?

>>390421
I've heard of that place, I'll see if I can find anything similar.

I'm a little worried about it still being covered by my insurance if i go a route like that though.


getting mones by Sophie Blimmerkune - Mon, 06 Jul 2015 12:17:12 EST ID:5UJA3gbs No.390369 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I bought my mones online.

Estrofem 2mg 84 Tablets
Spiractin 100 (Spironolactone) 100 Tablets

How many should I take? some say 2x daily on both and some say 1x daily on estrofem and 2x daily on spiro.

Any warnings?

I'm only planning on taking them for a 4 - 6 weeks and then going to a GP/Psych and try to force getting proper prescriptions.
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Hedda Bullerville - Tue, 07 Jul 2015 10:12:54 EST ID:t+CFXTvd No.390430 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390424

When I was taking pills every day instead of injections I was taking 2 mg ev and 100 mg spiro per day. I didn't split them but I still grew some boobs and had various changes. If I had starting taking 4ev/200spiro there might have been more drastic in a shorter time period. To be honest I don't think splitting is a huge deal. I'm not exactly an endocrinologist however my own personal sense is that it doesn't matter all that much. Like one day is a short enough timespan where it doesn't make a huge difference, and things still work. That's my semi-educated guess/intuition/gut feeling though.
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Hedda Bullerville - Tue, 07 Jul 2015 11:02:49 EST ID:t+CFXTvd No.390433 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390430

By the way medical guides to transgender treatments don't usually mention about twice per day (they just say per day), I searched and couldn't really find much to support it making a huge difference.

https://apps.carleton.edu/campus/gsc/assets/hormones_MTF.pdf
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Hedda Bullerville - Tue, 07 Jul 2015 11:07:20 EST ID:t+CFXTvd No.390434 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390424

Apologies for all the multi-posting. What you're asking is between a total of 1mg twice per day (for a total of 2mg), and 2mg twice per day (for a total of 4mg) right? Basically it depends on the person, you should start with 2mg per day (split or not split), and after a month or so check your blood. If your hormones are in the in the female ranges, then no need to increase. Chances are you may find that they aren't and then in that case it's usually recommended to then increase to 4mg per day. More if necessary, but get feedback by checking your blood.
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Molly Fizzlestock - Tue, 07 Jul 2015 11:47:59 EST ID:4ZYKyr3B No.390435 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390433
look at the half life of it
you dont want whacko levels
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Fanny Sodgedock - Tue, 07 Jul 2015 13:18:30 EST ID:nDtpqLIL No.390436 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390422
>>390433
>>390434

I mostly just said that because i'm on 8mg and it would be kind of a hassle to take all it once. Im sure it doesn't make much of a difference, but it wouldn't hurt to take it more often

As for starting on 2mg and moving up to 4mg in a month: You do that because you have to ease onto the medications for health reasons and it has to build up in your system. If you don't have any side effects that you care about after a month than you can move up the dose. If you don't have access to bloodwoork you are supposedly in the green if you don't get morning wood anymore! so keep that in mind (although its probably heresay). Also the maximum dose for estradiol is 12mg (?!) but you really shouldnt be taking more than six without a doctor to give you reliable meds/ monitor your bloodwork (you dont even need an endo for this). Also the maximum dose for spiro is 300mg but again most people will be perfectly fine at 200mg spiro and 4mg estro so talk to a doctor first

I self medded for awhile out of necessity and although I can't say it was the best thing for me it was a hell of alot better than doing nothing or listening to narcissistic doctors who don't have any idea what they are doing


Chaser Girls by Caroline Blacklock - Sun, 05 Jul 2015 20:00:38 EST ID:na6PDGXM No.390329 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I wonder, has anyone here ever encountered cis females who were MtF chasers? Any stories?


What do you think makes girls go after trannies when they do? (besides autism) There are stereotypes of chasers being repressed gay/trans, think anything like that applies to chicks?


I know they're rare as fuck so I don't know what I'm expecting.
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Archie Turveyhall - Mon, 06 Jul 2015 22:48:15 EST ID:rWdOZnvl No.390401 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390329
Is it wrong that I completely despise men that chase after my defective parts but if a girl were to show interest in me only for me being trans I'd be completely okay with it. I think It's cause most chaser dudes want a penis up their ass but go after girls with defects rather than men cause they are fagots in denial. Plus they tend to be of the neck beard pimply variety. Where as girls are soft curvy and don't flip their shit if you don't want to give them the d. But mist chaser girls are like a white rhino and tend to only be after drop dead gorgeous transwomen.
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Fuck Goodhood - Mon, 06 Jul 2015 23:57:13 EST ID:oSe56TH6 No.390411 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390401
Ya. Dont worry though, most transbians are like you. Hypocrites
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Frederick Dippertutch - Tue, 07 Jul 2015 00:57:30 EST ID:D0apJWhd No.390412 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390411
>Hypocrites
For you :^)
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Cornelius Brullywit - Tue, 07 Jul 2015 02:23:44 EST ID:PvH3+L0e No.390418 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've run into plenty of bi girls who are afraid of being 'the lesbians' and view transwomen as 'safe' since penors. They also want to have their cake and eat it too for the same reason male chasers do; they think they can get railed by a hot chick with a dick.
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Fucking Wozzlewig - Tue, 07 Jul 2015 09:43:42 EST ID:ANhnyAXt No.390429 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390401
>Plus they tend to be of the neck beard pimply variety
they are as varied as any other people group and most are not gay, just with a fetish


Why is the trans community so difficult by Simon Naddleman - Sat, 04 Jul 2015 02:12:11 EST ID:+SRNfON3 No.390238 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I want to make friends with other trans people, but that means engaging with the community to find people who might be fun to hang with. Sifting through a community of obvious crazy people, fetishists, weirdos, loud-mouth opinionated jerks who are so judgmental they're basically bigots. Why are there so many whack-jobs? The ratios are way skewed. I can totally see why outsiders think trannies are fucking weirdos, a LOT are. It makes sense that the balanced ones go stealth.
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Augustus Chonderkatch - Tue, 07 Jul 2015 01:56:18 EST ID:6Mkoau9a No.390414 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390410
1 year and 3 months now. Maybe I'm being tough on myself I don't know when I'll be happy with it.
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Frederick Dippertutch - Tue, 07 Jul 2015 02:02:20 EST ID:D0apJWhd No.390415 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390414
Yeah, you should be passing pretty well voice-wise by now.

I'm just getting started, but hopefully I'll sound pretty decent in 7 months when my birthday comes around again. I think that's a decent milestone and goalpost to set for myself (having a 90%+ passing voice by then, I mean).
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Oliver Murdforth - Tue, 07 Jul 2015 02:05:49 EST ID:eNlruhUp No.390416 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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This is so common in online transcommunities that I have taken it for granted that it is all the hormones everyone is taking. At the heart of every trans community is not only a bunch of girls trapped in the body of men, but teenagers trapped in the bodies of adults. All the community drama makes sense when you think of trans communities as a bunch of mentally 16 year old girls.
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Hannah Shakespear - Tue, 07 Jul 2015 08:43:29 EST ID:kxpeC7+/ No.390428 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390414
Do you use your voice consistently (24/7) and practice technique using a mic? My voice became passable inside of 9 months. Its fully automatic and distinct from falsetto, muscle memory is wonderful.
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Charlotte Berrybury - Tue, 07 Jul 2015 10:34:59 EST ID:tk6cSZqD No.390432 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390428
Yeah trying to use it all the time is pretty like idk necessary for getting to where it feels normal. I basicallyyyyy practiced at work lol(too awkward/weird with family). At a hotel front desk at the time. And got to where I could do well there(At times I would talk to someone on the phone and they'd come in saying pretty sure I talked to you *points at female coworker* ha) though with my family or people I've known for along time I'd still end up not going all the way with it which is ughh. Still I get a bit too "relaxed" with my family though everywhere/everyone else is fine(and even if I do relax some it apparently doesn't sound too bad still? Or people are being nice lol). And again smoking weed gets it sounding pretty rough sometimes lol which I do a lot! Especially at home. Now when I go to work I have to like bring my voice out of a weed fog. Sometimes it doesn't go as well as others haha.

but also
>>390431 lol
different workplace now/in that^ post

nb


Apparently this is where tranny porn has to go by Eugene Crellerbury - Thu, 02 Jul 2015 15:02:43 EST ID:eTBXby9x No.390103 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Post your porns, i guess...
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Emma Blytheway - Mon, 06 Jul 2015 16:51:38 EST ID:D0apJWhd No.390386 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>390385
NOT ANYMORE
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Wesley Peblingshit - Mon, 06 Jul 2015 16:53:26 EST ID:eTBXby9x No.390387 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390386
If you're jealous of other grills pictures getting attention just post noodz and I'll fap
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Alice Pambledotch - Mon, 06 Jul 2015 17:46:34 EST ID:XS4KwyCz No.390388 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>390386
>>390386
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Emma Blytheway - Mon, 06 Jul 2015 18:05:13 EST ID:D0apJWhd No.390390 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>390387
okay bro but holy shit look at this divine slab of athletic prowess
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Caroline Docklepitch - Tue, 07 Jul 2015 03:57:14 EST ID:eTBXby9x No.390420 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390390
I love chicks with short hair and i would slam the fuck out of that. But still...muh dicks.


My Rants by Fucking Tillinghall - Tue, 30 Jun 2015 07:56:33 EST ID:VPojUM7d No.389981 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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26 years old, since the age of four i have known I was born with the wrong gender. Kept it secret until I was 9 and told my parents who told me I was confused and took me to a therapist. Stayed depressed through highschool and these feelings never changed. Have had a fiance at 22 who I nearly married but she continued to say I was too feminine and not manly enough (go figure). Had a second fling two years later and she also said the same thing..

Been fighting wanting to go down the rabbit hole take hormones and start experiencing the life I know I want..

What holds me back?

  1. I'm 5'10, fat 8 muscle, and a frame that I fear would always scream tranny. Wishing I was given mones before puberty like I wanted, I listened to my parents and believed i was just confused.
  2. How am I supposed to keep a job and have a good career
  3. No family support , no friends who would support it.
  4. Fear fear fear.
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Martin Dorrywill - Mon, 06 Jul 2015 11:10:47 EST ID:dXjxYlXV No.390367 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390360
>just multiply your weight by ten and eat 500 calories less than that.
(70*10)-500=200kcal
That's just as loony as burning 2500 kcal a day...
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Clara Buzzson - Mon, 06 Jul 2015 11:31:05 EST ID:A8Y3X4q+ No.390368 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390367
Fool, you're supposed to measure your weight in centimeters!
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Emma Blytheway - Mon, 06 Jul 2015 15:37:28 EST ID:D0apJWhd No.390381 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Faggots.
(actually I just made a thread somewhat related on /fit/ last night, asking how to combine C25k and SS or something)

Just read this shit
https://boards.4ch@n.org/fit/thread/17018018
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Archie Turveyhall - Mon, 06 Jul 2015 21:51:28 EST ID:rWdOZnvl No.390399 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390347
That's exactly what I asked if I have potential then the claws came out. Ironically after being on hrt for five months my next comments were you pass 7/10 etc. I just don't get why the viciousness to prehrt people?
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Phyllis Mepperlodge - Mon, 06 Jul 2015 23:00:19 EST ID:++Dse+ye No.390402 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>390399

well everyone has potential. HRT may do a lot to you or it may do nothing to you, you are 5 months in now and you are getting 7/10 and thats great.

I still take to the view that passing in pictures is nothing compared to passing in real life. Caitlyn jenner is a great example of this, she looks fantastic in pictures but as soon as she opens her mouth, total disaster.

So what would you say to Caitlyn if she came on here pre hrt pre ffs asking what her potential would be? what would you tell her?


Shaving/Facial Skin Care by Charlotte Dundernedging - Sat, 04 Jul 2015 17:08:41 EST ID:D0apJWhd No.390274 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How do you girls shave? Do you use expensive disposable cartridges? Anyone use a double-edge razor or straight razor? Supposedly they give a better shave and are significantly cheaper.

Personally, I typically use a Gillette Fusion Proglide on my face, though I just ran out of cartridges. As well, I usually always have a little acne/ingrown hairs on my upper lip and chin. So I'm looking for a better and cheaper way to shave. (I'll be giving the Gillette Mach3 Turbo a try for the next month, which is about $1/razor cheaper than the Fusion)

Sorry, maybe a little tl;dr. Anyway, skincare general. Go!
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Nigel Foblingtatch - Mon, 06 Jul 2015 04:32:20 EST ID:PvH3+L0e No.390348 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390301

I use the nivea with my DE since my brush died on me and i ran out of shave soap, it's not ideal but still infinitely better/cheaper than disposables or modern multiblades.
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Nigel Foblingtatch - Mon, 06 Jul 2015 04:54:45 EST ID:PvH3+L0e No.390350 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390301

Swap out the razors with some feathers if you want the best shave ever or derbys if you want a more beginner friendly razor, the rest of the kit looks solid
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Emma Blytheway - Mon, 06 Jul 2015 15:30:29 EST ID:D0apJWhd No.390379 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390350
Will do. Thanks Nigel!
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Edwin Simmerforth - Mon, 06 Jul 2015 15:47:56 EST ID:tk6cSZqD No.390383 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My skin gets so much better when I don't have to shave. I'm going for that lol. Make up in the meant time >_>
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Edwin Simmerforth - Mon, 06 Jul 2015 15:51:51 EST ID:tk6cSZqD No.390384 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390383
Also just use plant oils like grapeseed oil or maybe sunflower, to shave and remove make up with. I can't really say how well it works compared to other things because I've not done hardly anything else in so long but sorta works I guess? There's stuff about the different oils for your face on the internet and I just randomly saw someone mentioning shaving with it a while ago and have gone with it. I tend to think/be on the side that less is more and your body naturally deals with things and using all of those products sorta make you dependent on them but I don't really know tbh haha. nb


R8 N H8, I RLY APPRECI8, M8 by John Niggerwater - Sun, 12 Apr 2015 00:49:21 EST ID:D0apJWhd No.386101 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So, new passing thread? appreciate

I'm actually a bit amazed how quickly these threads reach critical mass, compared to the rest of the board.
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Frederick Dippertutch - Mon, 06 Jul 2015 23:22:22 EST ID:D0apJWhd No.390408 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390407
Oh wait, here we go. Thread's no longer bumping. RIP
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Phyllis Mepperlodge - Mon, 06 Jul 2015 23:25:38 EST ID:++Dse+ye No.390409 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390395

you are looking pretty horizontal you must live in the eastern hemisphere!

Its hard to say. as i said in another post recently asking about potential is dumb. who knows what hrt will do for you.

it looks like you have a bit of an adams apple, but i cant tell. it looks like you're still rocking some afternoon shadow but im not sure if its just a shadow.

your brows could use a bit of a trim. your glasses could use a bit of an update.

so yes, you have potential to pass, especially if you are getting ffs.
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Augustus Pocklock - Tue, 07 Jul 2015 02:15:55 EST ID:hynjIKdL No.390417 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>389931

10/10

wud gib fish
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Jack Wingerstone - Tue, 07 Jul 2015 08:12:25 EST ID:nu5EXvOb No.390427 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>tfw lady customer tells me I have a very pretty/pleasant voice
never gotten a compliment about it before, I always thought I sounded like shit
>tfw suddenly have super confidence in my voice and sound even better because of it

>>390417
u r very attractive
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Charlotte Berrybury - Tue, 07 Jul 2015 10:26:22 EST ID:tk6cSZqD No.390431 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390427
Right!? At the place I've worked at for almost a year now-ish, a little less, I've gotten compliments on my voice like 4 times. Either do you sing(which I suckkkk at anything I've tried lol just in my car ha), or you have a pleasant speaking voice and stuff, usually a little bit older people that say it. I'm like is that even a thing to compliment someone's voice? Haha. And it would give confidence in the moment buttttt I also mess up a lot I'm pretty sure. Lazy/tired doesn't help, smoking weed doesn't help haha. But when it's good then yeah, also I get better if I try to be cute or attractive to someone too lol.


Natural Supplements? by Fuck Drirrymedging - Sun, 05 Jul 2015 09:25:34 EST ID:EsvMxAO2 No.390297 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I want to avoid full-on HRT but would like something that will help grow tits and reduce the size of my dick (is that possible, even?? Don't want it completely gone, but just, smaller?)

I have a handful of a few supplements I've researched, but I'd like to know if anyone else has any suggestions, or if there is something that naturally will block testosterone.

pueraria mirifica (for breast growth)
alfalfa (increases estrogen)
biotin vitamins for hair/nail/skin.
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Whitey Trotstock - Sun, 05 Jul 2015 17:06:09 EST ID:66TsIGWi No.390314 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The supplements wont help you get what you want. If you want a smaller penis you need to either take spirolactone or get an orchidectomy to lower/remove your testosterone. The side effects of not having any hormones is penis shrinkage, mild breast growth, and depression.

Before you ask no there is no way to become feminine or reduce the effects of testosterone without the possibility of mild breast growth.
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Alice Hottingpock - Sun, 05 Jul 2015 20:35:10 EST ID:+UBoXqVN No.390332 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390299
I have heard they can even negatively impact your HRT by flooding your body with phyotoestrogens(or whatever) rather than the ones you need causes the good hormones to be forced to compet with the mostly useless ones.
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Alice Pambledotch - Mon, 06 Jul 2015 00:08:27 EST ID:XS4KwyCz No.390342 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390332

Yeah but thats stuff like saw palmetto and evening primrose not vitamin b and things meant to help.you general well being. Anything that effects your reproductive system or hormonal balanve will generally intefere with HRT.
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Fanny Pallygold - Mon, 06 Jul 2015 14:34:00 EST ID:HxbppOob No.390375 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390299
>natural HRT does not exist
Why, how could you forget THE PREGNANT MARE URINE EXTRACT?
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Emma Blytheway - Mon, 06 Jul 2015 15:25:58 EST ID:D0apJWhd No.390377 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>390375
DRINK HORSE PISS
FUCK BIG PHARMA
YOLO


Sex dimorphism of the brain in male-to-female transsexuals. by Doris Dartcocke - Sun, 05 Jul 2015 18:27:24 EST ID:ziWLWslK No.390321 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Cerebral Cortex. 2011 Nov;21(11):2525-33. doi: 10.1093/cercor/bhr032. Epub 2011 Apr 5.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21467211

>Gender dysphoria is suggested to be a consequence of sex atypical cerebral differentiation. We tested this hypothesis in a magnetic resonance study of voxel-based morphometry and structural volumetry in 48 heterosexual men (HeM) and women (HeW) and 24 gynephillic male to female transsexuals (MtF-TR). Specific interest was paid to gray matter (GM) and white matter (WM) fraction, hemispheric asymmetry, and volumes of the hippocampus, thalamus, caudate, and putamen. Like HeM, MtF-TR displayed larger GM volumes than HeW in the cerebellum and lingual gyrus and smaller GM and WM volumes in the precentral gyrus. Both male groups had smaller hippocampal volumes than HeW. As in HeM, but not HeW, the right cerebral hemisphere and thalamus volume was in MtF-TR lager than the left. None of these measures differed between HeM and MtF-TR. MtF-TR displayed also singular features and differed from both control groups by having reduced thalamus and putamen volumes and elevated GM volumes in the right insular and inferior frontal cortex and an area covering the right angular gyrus.The present data do not support the notion that brains of MtF-TR are feminized.

tl;dr: Pre-HRT transbians' brains are the same as cis men's on MRI. What do you think about this, /cd/?
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Polly Gunnerdale - Mon, 06 Jul 2015 08:15:27 EST ID:ziWLWslK No.390359 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390343
ah, so what is? are you going to throw out all the neuroscientific knowledge we have because it's not perfect (or, lets be honest -- because you don't agree with it?)
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David Nivingchut - Mon, 06 Jul 2015 08:20:17 EST ID:nu5EXvOb No.390361 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390321
why were gay trans women compared to straight women?

doesn't sexual orientation effect sizes of these things as well?
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Jenny Honeystock - Mon, 06 Jul 2015 08:46:35 EST ID:CsX91yPr No.390362 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390321
And nothing in my life has changed
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John Pigglemeck - Mon, 06 Jul 2015 12:23:30 EST ID:vztj/lKp No.390371 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390361
This. Their phrasing also suggests some pretty strong anti-trans bias as well.

Like, that abstract more or less translates to "We compared the brains of gynephilic cis men, gynephilic trans women and androphilic cis women. The trans women's brains were closer to the the cis men's brains than the cis women's brains in a few ways, but overall they were quite different from either. Obviously this means trans women are menny menny men men men. There is no intentional oversight here. Nope."
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Fanny Pallygold - Mon, 06 Jul 2015 14:29:38 EST ID:HxbppOob No.390374 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>390321
The amount of methodological holes in this research is big enough to hide the entirety of First World debt in it.
There is no "gay women" group even though earlier findings suggest that majority of things assumed by western science as "feminine/masculine" are more of "androphilic/gynephilic".
And this is why when I will come to power I will make methodology a necessary course for all young scientists. To spare them from the gloomy future of being laughed at on the imageboard.


Switching from Propecia to Fincar. by Nicholas Bardshit - Mon, 06 Jul 2015 05:31:06 EST ID:+xNuzQ1k No.390353 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So hey I've been taking 1mg propecia for the past few months for my hair loss, and more or less, when I've been taking it every day my hairs been coming back, but when I've been only taking it every other day I've just kept it from going away. Anyway, It cost me 300$ for like a 3 month supply, which I stretched as long as I could and now I'm about out. So I bought 5mg Fincar now because its cheaper and I got way more pills for the same price, but I've heard mixed things on how to take it, either that I need to cut the pills up? or alternatively only take one every 3 days? Which is most efffective do you think? I just want to keep my hair.


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