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schizophrenia and transgenderism by Girl Snibblecock - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 12:12:51 EST ID:APvtdxEU No.404418 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Why are you being excluded from the transgender diagnosis when you have schizophrenia? Ive actually never seen a treated schizophrenic who believes hes part of the opposite gender/identifies as the other gender. And I know like a whole clinic + a social company who supports over 50 people (I mean schizophrenic patients).
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Martin Danningworth - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 14:07:24 EST ID:G/8Vhl2G No.404426 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404421
You do realize that DID is exceedingly rare and not really considered a thing by most psychologists.
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Nell Himmlelot - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 19:49:37 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.404427 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404426

It is rare.

>not really considered a thing by most psychologists
source?
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Jarvis Nickledock - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 21:24:28 EST ID:CvIYf+1y No.404432 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404427
http://www.mdedge.com/currentpsychiatry/article/63686/dissociative-identity-disorder-time-remove-it-dsm-v

Bean, "DID" is actually a manifestation of symptoms from other sometimes comorbid disorders.
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David Pishshit - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 23:21:27 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.404433 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404432

That is an interesting read, thanks for that.

I get where he's coming from and makes loads of valid points. I also decided to read the number 1 citation for the survey demographics which was quite interesting as well.
Here is an extract from Attitudes toward DSM-IV dissociative disorders diagnoses among board-certified American psychiatrists.
Pope, Harrison G, Jr; Oliva, Paul S; Hudson, James I; Bodkin, J Alexander; Gruber, Amanda J. The American Journal of Psychiatry; Washington Vol. 156, Iss. 2, (Feb 1999): 321-3.

Of 406 questionnaires initially sent, 36 were returned as undeliverable despite two rounds of replacement. No receipt was received on three other questionnaires sent on the third round by certified mail. Thus, 367 psychiatrists actually received a questionnaire. Of these, 301 responded-a rate of 82%. The 1998 directory showed that 219 (73%) of these were men, 165 (55%) were at least 50 years old, 261 (87%) were members of APA, and 193 (64%) held an academic appointment. Five respondents left the first three questions blank. Of the rest, 248 (84%) listed their principal activity as patient care, nine (3%) as research, seven (2%) as teaching, 28 (10%) as administration, and four (1%) as other. In addition, 119 (40%) rated their theoretical orientation as psychodynamic-psychoanalytic, 123 (41%) as biological, eight (3%) as cognitive-behavioral, and 46 (16%) as other. (On these questions, respondents who gave equal rank to two or more categories were classified as "other.") Finally, 136 (46%) reported having published no scientific papers, 106 (36%) one to nine papers, and 54 (18%) 10 or more papers.

But at the same time research continues to be done on DID it continues to be diagnosed and it continues to be treated, whether or not it is as the author says, just for financial means, its still a thing it still exists and people do still have it. So yeah comorbid disorders, whether people believe its childhood trauma, amnesia, attention seeking, whatever, its still a thing. i think its a bit loose to say that its not considered a thing by psychologists, considering the author of the paper you cited is a psychiatrist not a psychologist. and…
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Sophie Soddleson - Thu, 23 Nov 2017 04:44:16 EST ID:2MZ+/S9J No.404439 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404433
Most psychological issues are hardly black and white, a fact that some on this board could do well with heeding mind to. There are often loud voices championing either side, and you have to decide who has the better argument.


Orchiectomy by Eve Nutless - Sun, 29 Oct 2017 20:28:49 EST ID:RBum/leF No.404367 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I am finally having my orchi in a couple of weeks and I would like to know your experiences with it if you already had one. I am having a subcapsular orchiectomy which is supposed to be quick and safe and doesn't leave a scar on your inner thighs like an inguinal orchi does.

What's it like? And I mean how long does the healing take, when the swelling goes down, what's it like being on the operating table, when can you shower/exercise again, when it's safe to have your bp pounded etc etc etc?

Also does anyone know if having what's almost an empty sack attached to your body for the rest of your life safe? I am not planning SRS so I am a little scared that whatever stuff is left there may get cancerous over the time.
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Thomas Chovinghood - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 19:17:45 EST ID:kdCiOVPk No.404405 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404399
cause it stops them from producing testosterone, duhhh
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Phoebe Crunderpitch - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 04:16:41 EST ID:o6Bbx2Qa No.404406 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404405
But, instead of any other type? So again, why? To prolong tucking serving as some sort of rite of passage or something?
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Jenny Brookwater - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 12:00:54 EST ID:omJnSw2U No.404424 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404405
Is this like, the trans equivalent of the circumcision debate waiting to happen?
lol.
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John Derryburk - Wed, 22 Nov 2017 11:27:57 EST ID:WFT6Ny1h No.404436 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Subcapsular means that they *only* remove the hormone-producing tissue, leaving the spermatic cord, and the "capsule" or sheath of connective tissue&muscle around the testicle itself. Usually done to maintain the appearance/feel of balls for men undergoing cancer treatment. I am also slightly confused as to why you would prefer this; but hey every once in a blue moon i miss wearing ball stretchers so i guess maybe....

Inguinal means they make an abdominal incision over your inguinal canals to sever the spermatic cord higher (but still pull it out through the scrotum), usually done for more radical cancer treatments when there is a fear it has spread.

a "radical" orchiectomy is probably what you're thinking of? just the removal of the entirety of both testicles, can sometimes also be inguinal but it's probably not necessary if you're not worried about tumors.

** disclaimer: i am no doctor just some nutless tranny on the internet
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Priscilla Cherringwell - Wed, 22 Nov 2017 17:26:14 EST ID:RBum/leF No.404438 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404436
> I am also slightly confused as to why you would prefer this
Because that's the one the hospital is offering me for free. Also I am a scared little pussy so if there's less surgery, the better.
>leaving the spermatic cord, and the "capsule" or sheath of connective tissue&muscle around the testicle itself.
Will it eventually shrink down and possibly break down once the body realizes there's no testosterone? I won't have to undergo ANOTHER orchi, right?


Help with advice trans kitty by Phoebe Turveybanks - Wed, 22 Nov 2017 15:55:12 EST ID:AgIduVax No.404437 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hi /cd/

I only visit 420chan for /wooo/ however I sometimes visit other boards, when I'm bored. Please help about 5 years there was a fad here where an advice "trans kitty" or something like was attached. And image read something like "Take all your hormones AT ONCE". It was similar to advice hipster cat, the cat was wearing a scraf on head. Can anybody send me the picture, I want to show to cool trans friend, because she's a little depressed to cheer her up. Sorry for my bad english.


Asians > Westerners by Hamilton Noddlelit - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 00:06:58 EST ID:tA+iUFeC No.404429 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How come western trannies never look as good as asian trannies?
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Nell Himmlelot - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 01:56:09 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.404430 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404429

It really just depends on what floats your boat. But asian men tend to be shorter and have more feminine features, where as western men tend to be the same as the average western man. Men are typically attracted to people shorter than them and so as you can see in this video they give you the perspective of you looking down at them, which can also trigger attractiveness in men.

So i hope that has helped clear things up.
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Clara Ginninglirk - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 17:33:22 EST ID:kdCiOVPk No.404434 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404429

assuming you're not asian, it's also more difficult to clock people of other races, because chances are, you were raised around people who were mostly of your race, and are better at recognizing "feminine" and "masculine" features of your race.


Positive energy by Archie Fiffingpine - Mon, 09 Oct 2017 14:48:32 EST ID:WrU08+al No.404242 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey everyone,
Just want to remind you to love yourself and feel happy and confident about your womanhood.

i know things can be hard sometimes, but I hope that you feel the sunshine.
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Esther Dummledet - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 08:08:17 EST ID:YkR+vW/1 No.404416 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404414
If you end up a hon, would it preferable to just pass as a man?
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Girl Snibblecock - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 09:44:12 EST ID:APvtdxEU No.404417 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I still wish I can be a women in the afterlife, is that positive?
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Fucking Borringman - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 15:37:37 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.404419 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404416
I was questioning if it would just make sense to pass as what most people would define as an "ugly woman". I've literally gone gender blind since I honestly cannot tell the difference anymore between a cisgender and a transgender woman. It seems like some cisgender women could be transgender and some women who you think could be transgender end up cisgender. This also has me rethinking just what the fuck "hon" is because I cannot see what unpassing might be anymore. Because it seems like if you don't pass by the standards of this board, /lgbt/, /lgbt/'s numerous general threads, or any transgender sub-circlejerk then you're really just passing as an ugly cisgendered woman.
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Jenny Nickleridge - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 05:37:23 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.404422 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404419

i dont know what kind of person people call hons anymore, but a hon to me is someone who overemphasises a stereotypical female persona because thats what they think women are.

For example, if you think women call each other hon all the time, you begin saying hon all the time to other women, ie emulating what you think women do rather than being yourself ie. a woman. thats what a hon is.

There are unpassable trans people, go to a support group, go to any community meet up and you will find them.


Fuck passing in pictures, pass in real life. pictures are easy to pass in, just do your makeup amazingly, get good light (seriously during the hour the sun is setting will make you look amazing), make sure your hair is good, smiling, camera at a decent angle, take loads of photos and boom you can now post that picture to circlejerk lgbt wherever you want and you pass.

But you arent always going to have the pefect lighting, your hair isnt always going to be perfect, you cant wear a full face of makeup every day, Passing in real life is different to passing to people on the internet because its so much easier, people on the internet ie here and places already mentioned are looking for transwomen and so they see transwomen. People in real life dont give two fucks about you unless you stand out like a sore thumb but even then its 2017 you could have a beard and some people would still call you she and her because if they dont they think they will have an angry mob demanding they get fired for being literally hitler.
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Fucking Cuddlepuck - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 03:34:51 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.404431 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404422
One thing I noticed both from here and on /lgbt/ is that it seems like everyone has a different definition of passing. To me I took passing to me that people see you for who you are without doing that much effort, but from what I've seen with amazing makeup work it seems like anyone could pass in the public's eye. Your definition of a hon makes sense to me. There is an older woman on the bus that I see often times that I sometimes question if they are trans, but it doesn't feel right making that assumption since I've seen older cis women look old and wrinkly. Like for example, for whatever reason, I think Patricia Davis passes for a woman her age. I still sometimes think of Benjamin Franklin, but she looks like a more feminine version of Benjamin Franklin to me. Even someone like Christine Chandler could sometimes look feminine to me and other times make me think of B. Frank. I feel like an asshole for even writing this post, but I legitimately think I have a case of gender blindness.


Bras and boobs by George Lightdock - Wed, 04 Oct 2017 22:28:52 EST ID:/26c8ygk No.404216 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How far into transition should I start wearing a bra? Is there a way to keep my nipples centered, or at least try to? Are nipples stretching normal? Are big nipples considered attractive?
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Nell Febberwedge - Fri, 06 Oct 2017 02:00:29 EST ID:HgXq4r5N No.404221 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404216
please start wearing one before you get like, protruding nipple through your shirt though cause that's a hard one to explain. start w sports bras / those band ones that just have a single band size and no cups just fabric. it helps cover up those pointy nips. im at 5 mo and i wear a 34a/b on the loosest latch or a 36a on the tightest latch. theyre kinda noticable but im not going pure boymode, just kinda sliding thru androgyny
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David Bronkinlock - Fri, 03 Nov 2017 06:28:00 EST ID:ukqaBB+k No.404379 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404220
On a general scale, mens nipplers are smallers. Anecdotal, but after knowing a few thousand nipples across both genders, I'd say it holds up.

>>404216
I wore at least a sports bra, even when I was first transitioning. And I just realized I've been stuck at this shitty impasse for 8.5 years. Whatever you do, don't waffle, make decisions and stick with it. And avoid Thailand, they've gotten pretty bad.
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Fucking Fuckleson - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 09:56:11 EST ID:gQW7blzd No.404423 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404379
What impasse?
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Martin Danningworth - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 14:04:47 EST ID:G/8Vhl2G No.404425 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404423
It means like unable to move forward due to disagreement
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Jenny Gondlenark - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 21:36:38 EST ID:gQW7blzd No.404428 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404425

Thanks but I meant to ask what particular impasse they were referring to.


How long does it take to start noticing changes? by Fucking Borringman - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 01:13:27 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.404408 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I am currently on 0.1mg Estradiol patches which I switch out every Sunday as well as 2 spironolactone pills a day which I take in the morning. I've been on the Estradiol for almost six months now and within the first three months my testosterone has dropped significantly. I've been on spironolactone for around three months and I have an endocrinologist appointment on 15 December 2017.

I think I noticed some subtle changes, but I am unsure. I think my butt region has started to get larger or rounder since I noticed my underwear started to feel small when laying in bed. I think I also have breast buds starting to develop and I think my face started to get slender then where it was months ago. My mother also noticed these changes which makes sense I heard that other people would notice things that you won't,

How much longer before I grow into my body, /cd/?

Pic is a picture of my medication that I posted for another community that I go to. I was too lazy to take another picture of it so I decided to just reuse it here. The heart dotted I's are just to see if anyone there notices. I don't dot my I's with hearts.
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Fuck Chezzlebodging - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 02:05:20 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.404410 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404408

seems live you've been growing your body for 18+ years!

There is no set change time limit, different folks different strokes, also different medications and estrogen levels and their receptiveness and all that jazz.

so dont worry!
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Fucking Borringman - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 02:20:35 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.404411 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404410
I only started transitioning since I wanted to start before I was 30. It might be a little too late for me to pass though. :-( I am 26/27 years of age. I just turned 27 this past July. I hope there is still time for me to pass.
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Fuck Chezzlebodging - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 03:56:01 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.404412 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404411

Just focus on being happy and being the best you, you can be.

27 is pretty late to transition though and hopefully your psychologist discussed with you the potentialities of not passing.
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Fucking Borringman - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 04:13:39 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.404413 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404412
> 27 is pretty late to transition though
I heard that age doesn't have much to do with transitioning to pass. I was told it had to do more with what you had genetically. Is this true? I try to keep that in mind for added hope but I always abandoned that notion. I am still not sure if it is true since I've seen cisgender women that I mistakenly confused for being trans and vice versa to a point where I think I literally gone gender blind even toward myself. This leads me to question if 'hons' are just some meme, but yet, it remains my biggest fear.


Can you believe that I went to school with this guy?! by Lucil - Tue, 24 Oct 2017 16:47:26 EST ID:M/QxE89h No.404336 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I can't even believe the transformation that this guy did! He went to my school as Mark! Now she goes by Katherine! I'm so fucking blown away
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Polly Wushlick - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 10:13:02 EST ID:AMZbDoSe No.404395 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404394
Her bones are too femme too. Her hips? the waist? Yeah OP is trolling
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Eagle Bottomstock - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 20:38:02 EST ID:ezmyLbyj No.404401 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why should re believe you?
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Oliver Barddock - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 20:10:31 EST ID:2MZ+/S9J No.404403 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404395
That's clearly a man torso though. She used waist training but it's certainly not undoable.
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Caroline Binkinmeck - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 10:57:49 EST ID:TOQwpv9K No.404404 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404403
sweetie... lots of white girls have shoulders like that.
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Fuck Blenningfuck - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 02:49:35 EST ID:2MZ+/S9J No.404420 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404404
>talks about torso
>"shoulders"

Eat a thousand dicks.


Is passing a prerequisite to truly transitioning? by Esther Pammertock - Sat, 28 Oct 2017 09:49:14 EST ID:0rfQ73pU No.404362 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So the distinction between gender and sex has been made pretty clear. Sex is determined by biology while gender is determined by society and your role within it. Doesn't that then make passing a prerequisite to truly transitioning? If you perform the female role but look like a dude, society is not going to treat you like a woman, they're going to treat you like a third gender, a tranny. Liberals will embrace you and trot you out to their friends and family to show how tolerant they are, conservatives will call you names and misgender you, but neither treats you like a woman, that is, unless you pass.

Sorry if this offends anyone, that is not my intention.
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Charlotte Cozzlelun - Tue, 31 Oct 2017 21:36:23 EST ID:0bZPqkTp No.404373 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think this might sound bad but passing is not hard imo. I have broad ass shoulders and clown feet and I've never been misgendered. In fact, as a teen all I needed was long hair to get "she'd". Just dress/act/walk/talk/apply make up the way a stereotypical cis woman would.
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Hugh Subberhudge - Thu, 02 Nov 2017 09:53:58 EST ID:YkR+vW/1 No.404374 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404373
Passing is not hard if you are not a hon.
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18fcali - Thu, 02 Nov 2017 13:06:05 EST ID:SeG2zIsN No.404375 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>404368
"Is it lawful on the Sabbath to do good, or to do harm? To save a life, or to kill?"
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Edwin Pazzlehot - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 00:12:51 EST ID:l7tD0dyt No.404392 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404371
"passing" trans don't have the same experiences as women
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Nigel Nucklewet - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 22:52:34 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.404396 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404392

its almost like they grew up with society treating them as males or something.


NEED HELP by suicidal alphamale who wants to be a girl - Thu, 05 Oct 2017 04:44:31 EST ID:B8NovRka No.404217 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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how can i look like a girl with all this alpha DNA, not joking im serious i decieded to get surgery and all
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David Bronkinlock - Fri, 03 Nov 2017 06:35:40 EST ID:ukqaBB+k No.404380 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>404217
Honestly, if you're shorter than 6ft and have money for facial surgery, then you're fine. You seem young enough to heal from it assuming that it goes well... The rest is laser and zapper for hair and learning how to dress for your body type.

If you're taller than 6ft you'll probably always look boyish to the main populous even if you were natal female. Daniela Sea gets by.
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Phoebe Sunkinwork - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 20:12:59 EST ID:XxHexQjj No.404384 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404380
She looks as handsome as Bruce Jenner.
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Walter Pallerwater - Tue, 07 Nov 2017 08:21:33 EST ID:YkR+vW/1 No.404385 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404380
What is the point in transitioning into an ugly girl when your peak attractiveness is being a guy? You will have a very limited pool of people that will be attracted to you. And you will be stuck with the ugly ones.
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Graham Bollerlock - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 17:31:49 EST ID:2MZ+/S9J No.404388 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404385
>why would anybody not pretty have the same mental condition as me, like oh my god I just the uggos would GET GASSED
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Edwin Pazzlehot - Fri, 10 Nov 2017 00:06:50 EST ID:l7tD0dyt No.404390 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404380
do you actually believe this? You really think surgery just magically turns male faces female don't you?

God trannies are so fucking naive


Mr. Skeltal by Polly Sibblefoot - Tue, 31 Oct 2017 13:21:55 EST ID:SWTY+VO+ No.404370 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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MERRY SPOOKMAS YALL


Behold your results. by Nathaniel Clankindock - Fri, 20 Oct 2017 18:25:56 EST ID:ZMokcUKJ No.404310 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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This is what you were hoping for.
Still think you're somehow the opposite gender, in defiance of all science?
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Human Life is Valuable - Sat, 28 Oct 2017 10:05:46 EST ID:LkWyTLiS No.404363 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>404310

Science also says Africans are genetically unintelligent and genetically inferior to white people.
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God Does Not Change - Sat, 28 Oct 2017 10:33:22 EST ID:LkWyTLiS No.404365 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Nice shock images, degenerates.
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Cornelius Paffingdudging - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 17:05:53 EST ID:2MZ+/S9J No.404386 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>my commonly spammed /pol/ datamining a redditor who recanted scare image 'll get em!

your redpills mean nothing after the 100th time retard
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Bardrick Naglefromp - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 20:50:09 EST ID:ezmyLbyj No.404402 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404363
'science'
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James Fiddlestadging - Mon, 20 Nov 2017 19:56:21 EST ID:kAnNvJWr No.404435 Ignore Report Quick Reply
its all shock, with a little slander thrown in for good measure

this is a single persons experience. If this was some sort of compilation, itd have a little more effect. But as it is, its one person having a really, really tough time. I feel terrible for them, but in this instance they are being utilised as some sorta posterchild for your own agenda. which is fucked.

nothing goes 100% perfectly, 100% of the time. with a major surgery yeah its gonna be far more tumultuous odds than that, you roll the dice, for most people the shot at what they want *seems* worth it. you can wave your 1-in-20 example around all you want, and at best youll make those faint of heart rethink what they want...which to be honest, isnt exactly the worst of things

doubt is healthy, in small doses.


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