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Any of you feel me? by Doris Dreshdat - Sat, 25 Feb 2017 01:11:48 EST ID:ZRpxNKgh No.402381 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Why do feminine accessories and the rare full CDing(in private) make me happy? Maybe happy is the wrong word. Pretty? Idk.

Generally I'm masculine, to the point that one of the gay guys at work likes to use the description "very butch".
Not sure if it's the balance I like to one extreme, or if it's the novelty of it, or if there's something more to it that I enjoy.

Any of you have an opinion on it?

Pic is a bow I've worn around a few times.
Ian Gabberstone - Sat, 25 Feb 2017 01:38:01 EST ID:2IbZEiEJ No.402383 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well nobody but you can really tell you why you like doing it. Or we can tell you but only you know for sure.
Hannah Braffingked - Sun, 26 Feb 2017 07:58:21 EST ID:FWNWoLR4 No.402400 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Now we've never met, I've never seen your face, and never talked to you at all before, but based on a handful of words you typed up on an anonymous image board I can 100% confidently tell you that you are absolutely transgender and you need to come out and tell everybody right away and cut your penis off and start hormones tomorrow or you'll never ever pass ever.

for real tho who gives a shit, do what you like
Hamilton Sangerwig - Sun, 26 Feb 2017 23:33:46 EST ID:ZRpxNKgh No.402417 Ignore Report Quick Reply

lol I was stoned and just overhinking dumb things.

Martha Grandwill - Wed, 01 Mar 2017 05:46:04 EST ID:D4TP60Hi No.402439 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I wouldn't over think it. If you dig it and your happy with these different sides of yourself it should all be alright. I've known a few folks in your position and its best to just accept it, not overthink it and just roll with it when it strikes you.

Body Hair ELIMINATION by StimLion !J2qtxSkYVE - Mon, 01 Aug 2016 20:25:16 EST ID:V4N1FECI No.399542 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey /cd/, it's me, StimLion. I've identified as gender-fluid/androgynous since about 15 years old.

I side more with girl than boy most of the time, I imagine it sorta like a Kinsley scale for gender where I'm more girl than I am boy, yet I don't wanna fully transition. I do however want to look more female which is no problem since I have a very girly face and hair. HOWEVER if theres one thing I have a problem with body wise its goddamn fuckin body hair.

I HATE it, absolutely loath any hair on my body besides my lovely hair on my head. Its especially bad because I'm half Arabic and I get coarse thick leg and body hair. Arms are easy-mode to shave, but legs and body are so fucking tedious to do away with hair using a razor. Like the lower leg is no problemo, but then theres certain parts of the body that are just a massive pain in my luscious booty to get at. Mainly the undersides of the legs, the part where the leg meets the groin, the gooch n booty, and the lower back essentially. It just becomes so tedious and frustrating I wanna rush through it because I start to think about how I just wish I didn't grow this crap on my body. This is bad though because it ends up in getting razor burn and those shitty red bumps or worse cuts.

I've recently tried Veet and this extra strength Sally Hansen stuff that seems like an off-brand but actually worked pretty damn well. Recently as in I just got outta the shower from a wonderful, but again annoying body hair purging. This stuff really helps getting the bulk of hair, I love how it just basically melts off your body and most it becomes liquefied like yeah fuck you body hair I just napalmed your shit, also none of that razor bump and burn shit. I haven't shaved in months (been busy house-hopping to escape my shitty family, I'm sure some of can those feels that shit) and just been too stressed to do it till this last move so it took me both the can of Sally Hansen and the Veet along with some touch up shaving to get to the point I feel comfortable. So worth it though, I feel so smooth and lovely right now~

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Cyril Wallyback - Wed, 03 Aug 2016 19:04:01 EST ID:9OgQXHOP No.399605 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ive been getting laser and just shave + foundation if i go out girl mode, but hairs prrtty thinned now on face so dont even really need foundation that much.
Lily !Fxvac6iUdI - Fri, 05 Aug 2016 05:54:35 EST ID:JkHhFo6t No.399641 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Hey StimLion!! (I put my trip on just 4 u - i pretty much only use it on /stim/) First of all, don't listen to anybody here who is invalidating your identity and using it as a way to criticize you for wanting attention; the way you identify is perfectly valid and beautiful!!

As far as tips for hair removal, I don't really have much advice to give on removal specifically. I've been shaving my arms ever since I was 14 and saw those gross little nasty hairs appear on my arm and I currently pretty much shave my entire body around 2 times a week. This sounds like it would be strenuous and tiring, but it's really not because I don't really produce much body hair at all - which leads me to my next point.

Taking testosterone blockers and estrogen have reduced my body hair by probably 80%. Honestly, body hair reduction is the soonest and most apparent effect of hormones I experienced, just check out my nude (that u've already seen) from when I was only 5-6 months on hormones - >>399630 My skin looks so soft, smooth, and hairless in this pic and aside from that as well as my tiny boobies, the only other thing causing me to look so feminine was my skinniness (from doin' stimsss). I know you mentioned you don't intend on fully transitioning, but I think taking hormones, even just a smaller/halved dose, could help you with this issue, as long as you don't mind growing tiny little boobies (I feel like you would like it from my opinion of u - the nipples become so much better for sexual pleasure and so fun to play with)!

So, take that into consideration as I think it could potentially be benificial for you! There are plenty of feminine, yet male-identifying people who take hormones because they wan to feel like a more feminine boy. Not saying that's how you feel, just that not only transgirls benefit from feminizing hormones. Also - keep in mind that being on t-blockers alone, with no other hormones, has a pretty significant risk of depression and negative mental health when taken solely for an extended period of time.

Hope you are well and good luck in your journey to make your body feel more in tune with your gender identity! Much love! <3
Beatrice Wassletodging - Tue, 09 Aug 2016 16:35:20 EST ID:jiIixQKl No.399737 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ive been shaving x2 a day now and its not so bad,use an electric razor.
Also I found that Gillette shaving gel is better than Edge.
Phineas Gombleforth - Sat, 25 Feb 2017 01:36:18 EST ID:9Ht9rKgy No.402382 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hi there Stim([Lion{ness}])

I'm gladdened and, dare I say it, peripherally hopeful to see you working your way through your individual fluid sexual dynamics. Your words suggest you're well upon your way towards the promised land, a valhalla of pansexual imagery where its denizens respect the unique kinks of those with which they're not inclined while progressively amending and optimizing their personal onanistic dreams by always keeping watch for those whose own predilections synergistically evolve yours. Always deeper, always deeper (and pulsing stronger, of course)!

As a tip towards understanding and contentedness (unintended sidecar: and also a clarification for the psychologically myopic), this is the simplest way I can describe the "sissy" phenomenon: By internalizing and empathetically synchronizing with the sexual actions and characteristics that would maximize your orgasm and ejaculation in both duration and intensity, you act out on the gender-dispecific cock of your dreams, as you know full well what happens to each vein, line of cartilage and deeply-anchored spongy tissue when caressed with utmost passion and lust. The hypnotizing flutter of the corpus spongiosum's lurching spasmodics when almost arriving at the plateau--yes, that syrupy tickle that loosens your asshole for a just a moment as you instinctively bear down towards it to nurture its gnawing glow perchance into a zombifying seizure of unstoppable, unbearable and (god[?] willing) unceasing waves of ascending throbbing bliss--is the pinnacle of your own onanistic pursuit. So is it any surprise that, to make sure we can train the girl of our wildest dreams exactly how to ensure a personal best for distance when that introductory swell of cum charitably squirts from our cock, we employ lots of internalization and 'doubling down' internalization through role play when we find ourselves once again engaged in that activity what never lets a man down? Seems not!

Quickly: That last one was enjoyable, insofar as the description of the theory in itself demands heavy reflection on the best ways our penises made us clench and moan. So while I'm now off to my own race, I still wanted to give another …
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Ian Gabberstone - Sat, 25 Feb 2017 01:42:24 EST ID:2IbZEiEJ No.402384 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That's both informative and erotic as fuck.

Redistribution of fat by Alice Beshtone - Mon, 13 Feb 2017 10:27:01 EST ID:rnZSN525 No.402249 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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ok, hypothetical

When you take mones, /eventually/ your body fat distributes to typical female patterns, face and body. This takes a while

SO, if you're an absolute skinnyfuck, I'm talkin' meth addict thin, take hormones, achieve and sustain cisfemale E levels and then begin to gain weight, achieving a heallthy bmi..

Would that accelerate the process?

I guess it doesn't matter but I was thinking about it earlier and it made perfect sense in my head.
Martin Blidgewell - Mon, 13 Feb 2017 16:50:28 EST ID:/vIEViaE No.402251 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't know what exactly you're asking. I think you're asking if gaining weight after starting hormones instead of before would help get a womanly shape quicker. It would make sense it would, you'd think that any new body fat would be held to those new rules the estrogen is setting for your body. I think your body is constantly replacing body fat too, so if you don't lose or gain weight it should change eventually still. It's not nearly as fast as skin cells though.
I don't know personally because I have a super high metabolism and I've been trying to gain weight after hormones, I didn't care before, and it seems impossible when you're just naturally skinny as hell. Even being super skinny from before and after, it only took months for my face to become more feminine from fat redistribution. Just I wish I had a bigger bust and slightly thicker thighs instead of being like sticks.
Phyllis Dezzleson - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 16:31:49 EST ID:w7wK8Zvu No.402272 Ignore Report Quick Reply

That was exactly my question, it's something I'm semi-planning to do because I came off mones for a bunch of reasons and reversed the progress.

High metabolisms are bs tho. Nuts and GOMAD, brosis.
Nigel Bambleworth - Fri, 24 Feb 2017 23:52:18 EST ID:D4TP60Hi No.402380 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If you stay healthy while gaining weight I think you'll fill out. I've seen it work for people before. The hormones are going to redistribute the fat, but obviously you can't gain too much at once. Changing your body is going to take a lot of time.

Transgirls on Lolcow by Archie Fapperhen - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 23:07:14 EST ID:2k54T+z6 No.402311 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I discovered the women's restroom of imageboards. Lolcow the all female imageboard. I've been posting there for sometime and have found it quite insightful.
I recommend it it to all of you.

Barnaby Dartdock - Thu, 23 Feb 2017 02:54:46 EST ID:D4TP60Hi No.402318 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Gonna give you a fair warning after following that place for quite a bit of time but not being an active poster there. Don't. They eat their own. Their mods actively try and dox users.
At the very least I'd turn around and try and be very careful about what I post around there. Its a very dramatic place. And a good portion of the users are just there for the drama. I'm personally not a fan and would recommend against people using it.

HRT In Canada by Shit Beckleson - Sun, 12 Feb 2017 21:41:16 EST ID:nx6IQvt/ No.402245 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Forgive me if there is already a thread about this but anyone have luck ordering hormones online when in Canada? I can't personally find any place that will ship there.
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Martin Bleggledale - Mon, 13 Feb 2017 03:03:08 EST ID:W33OzG35 No.402248 Ignore Report Quick Reply

In canada? arent you guys like the most accepting of LGBT people in the world??

I dont have an online source for you, but seriously, go talk to some kind of trans group for your city, because i always imagined it would be the easiest in canada.
Priscilla Worthingville - Mon, 13 Feb 2017 13:46:29 EST ID:QVRMnVFt No.402250 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Here in new Brunswick, we are the lowest ranked in transgender Healthcare. We're abysmal
Fuck Dadgestone - Mon, 13 Feb 2017 17:47:20 EST ID:nRHuiI1e No.402254 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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there are some canadians here who can help you out

Clara Wemmershit - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 21:30:59 EST ID:0fzorwlZ No.402282 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Canada doesn't have 'free' health care either. If you live in BC and don't pay the monthly premiums for whatever reason they'll just cancel your account and you have to pay cash for all treatments. Everything you heard about Canada is generally a lie.

Hormone shops don't ship here because customs now opens literally everything, however I've noticed nothing from Japan or Western Europe is opened so would have to find a hormone outfit that uses those countries to redirect their meds.
Beatrice Drundlebanks - Sun, 19 Feb 2017 03:10:33 EST ID:W33OzG35 No.402283 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Damn Michael Moore Lying to us innocent foreigners! how dare he??

I dont know what to believe about canadia anymore.

Touching Shit Anywhere by Fucking Bummerchore - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 09:49:06 EST ID:wiULRUS+ No.401978 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Even when you pass, the TSA knows.

Today I even got hands inside my waistband. Frisky
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Emma Semmerhutch - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 07:54:19 EST ID:ZWaNMFTv No.402060 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Whenever i've tried to "opt-out" of the backscatter scanner they require a pat-down anyways.

I do to actually.... At this point i just have the attitude of (arms-up)"I know the drill, whatever i consent let's just get this over with" But this time one of the other TSA agents started to run up all "Wait! i think you just pushed the wrong button." Only they didn't finish and just kinda trailed off when they got around to see my face? and everybody exchanged these knowing glances and just kinda went back to the script.
craniumgirl - Wed, 25 Jan 2017 22:31:36 EST ID:5pjVliFx No.402097 Ignore Report Quick Reply
yes this is what happens. All you have to do is tuck dumasses. And if they pick M it will find your boobs and they will search you.
Alice Fibblefare - Fri, 27 Jan 2017 09:43:01 EST ID:rPnPTGfI No.402113 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I was tucked!
Basil Grandwill - Fri, 27 Jan 2017 22:53:05 EST ID:2IbZEiEJ No.402120 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Really? What kind of tucking method do you use?
I guess the machine can tell the difference between pussy lips and a tucked girlcock. That's somewhat surprising.
Samuel Crashwill - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 08:18:44 EST ID:/HSuw40I No.402278 Ignore Report Quick Reply

could be picking up tape or a gaff

Non SRS/FFS procedures? by Matilda Biddlekedge - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 10:36:09 EST ID:Me2FYkY3 No.402189 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Anyon have experience with surgeons and feminizing procedures that aren't SRS and FFS?

Thinking about mostly the body and the voice surgery.

I pretty much have no hips at all so it makes passing somewhat difficult at times with a really acute inverted triangle body shape.

From what I've been reading it's possible to take fat from places and inject it into the hips and such to create the illusion of wider hips. Better than nothing but prices vary from 4k to 12k USD.

Thoughts or experiences with these procedures? Or any kind of story at all, before/afters?
Phyllis Dezzleson - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 16:36:49 EST ID:w7wK8Zvu No.402273 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yes fat grafts are a thing, but to my knowledge, the fat migrates after a while so the results aren't permanent.

Silicone implants or dare I say it, tightlacing might be better options
Cyril Pedgenuck - Fri, 24 Feb 2017 05:35:17 EST ID:2IbZEiEJ No.402376 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Are stem cell breast implants legit?

Voice Tips/Voice Thread by Caroline Worthingford - Tue, 14 Feb 2017 08:32:06 EST ID:2IbZEiEJ No.402258 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I feel like at the higher end of the voice spectrum that I can currently access, the higher I I go the more nasal it sounds. Is there anything I should do to like reduce the nasality of my voice, but keep the pitch the same? Or is it just something that will go down with training?

Also, feel free to post/rate voices.
Beatrice Fidgeworth - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 13:56:53 EST ID:spvcLEDE No.402264 Ignore Report Quick Reply
nasal sounds come from breathing through your nose. Try getting your voice more "breathy" by exhaling slightly more as you talk. Obviously you don't want sultry sex voice so not too much, but it's hard to explain, but try raising your voice in your throat and less in your face.
It all definitely comes with practice tho, don't be too hard on yourself, remember to learn about inflection if you haven't already. imo inflection is more important than getting as high as possible.

Damn I never thought I'd say anything was more important than getting as high as possible...
Eugene Blythespear - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 05:32:36 EST ID:2IbZEiEJ No.402270 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hmm, so by inflection you mean the pitch shifts or "melody" of the words, kind of thing?
Jack Pongernitch - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 07:11:26 EST ID:spvcLEDE No.402271 Ignore Report Quick Reply
yeah. Like as a simple example, guys will speak far more monotone, and will often drop down in pitch at the end of a sentence, whereas a girl will raise their voice up. Different words and part of sentences are often stressed in different places. I'm doing a terrible job explaining but there should be tutorials out there for that. Possibly try to find some voice acting help too for female voices. It's often more cartoony and exaggerated but it would still be quite useful
Fuck Dartspear - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 03:20:28 EST ID:/vIEViaE No.402277 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Don't over think how you're talking too much, you will hate how your voice sounds played back, everyone does. Once you get your voice into the female sounding area, anything you say will sounds feminine, you can talk monotone and you will sound like a monotone female even. Also, you don't need to try to push your voice to be higher than it really needs to be, especially if it takes a lot of strain to get it there.
This is from personal experience.

a selifie thread have been absent for long? by Fuck Crandershit - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 09:06:16 EST ID:ilLBH4k0 No.402262 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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a selifie thread have been absent for long
why dont we start a new one again?
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Matilda Nenderfoot - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 18:10:27 EST ID:W33OzG35 No.402266 Ignore Report Quick Reply

there is a "selfie thread" literally two threads below this one.
Molly Hottingnick - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 22:20:08 EST ID:y+iY8WIz No.402267 Ignore Report Quick Reply
your skin is good, do ur eyebrows, jfc
John Nicklebury - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 22:46:04 EST ID:9Z+nhH7v No.402268 Ignore Report Quick Reply
just got tax refund check and eyebrows are first on the list!

any other tips? im 4 months into hrt atm
Shit Minderspear - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 23:15:05 EST ID:wBa8+I/U No.402269 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i used to get my brows waxed. then i switched to just plucking and trimming. though if your brows are really hefty than waxing is worth the money. you can also wax them at home, try sugar wax kits like moujan.
just remember that after a certain point, it doesn't grow back. don't overpluck or you'll be an old lady drawing on your brows with an eyeliner squiggle.
Edwin Gorrywater - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 07:49:21 EST ID:2IbZEiEJ No.402294 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Honestly just trim and then pluck them yourself. It's way cheaper than getting it waxed and this way you can learn how to do it yourself and also do it hair by hair and gradually find a shape you like.

Cis hormones by Sophie Seppernon - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 14:05:33 EST ID:+YDqlTil No.402080 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Could a cis female take a similar hormone intake as MtFs for feminization, similar to how cis men take steroids for increased masculization?

Apologies if this speculation is a bit off board, I figured if anyone would have reasonable knowledge/input it'd be you girls

Tl;dr backstory -
I used to do hormone therapy FtM years ago and ended up straying from that path because I didn't feel satisfied with current medical science. I know there are many things I can never change back, but am wondering if taking estro/prog would help "refeminize" me a little - promote slower hair growth, more feminine fat distribution, etc.

My current androgynous state makes public relations and holding jobs more difficult, as many of you have probably experienced. I just want to pass again better as my cis sex, and live a simpler life, as my dysphoria is no longer as crippling/suicidal and I believe I could handle it better

Thank you for any input
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Phyllis Brackleshaw - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 18:34:59 EST ID:W33OzG35 No.402086 Ignore Report Quick Reply

>If I end up going with it, I think I'll make a little private blog of the proccess and I can post it here if things end up getting interesting?

Please do but post even if things aren't interesting. This question has piqued my curiosity plenty of times
so please post regardless of the results and yes, i for one would be incredibly interested in seeing how this pans out.

I would say your goal would be high in the female range, but within range, birth control pills have minuscule amounts of estrogen in them compared to the hrt they give to women during menopause and transwomen.

>that whole last bit

I feel you.

if you feel indulgent I would love to hear more about your story, why you started transitioning, your general identity, were you a straight up ftm or were you more of a genderqueer?
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Eliza Bottinghood - Wed, 25 Jan 2017 17:47:40 EST ID:+YDqlTil No.402090 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If additional research continues to point to guinea pigging, I'm aiming to start 'mones testing around early March, I think. So I'll drop by here with the blog/to see if there's any further knowledge from anyone. I appreciate your encouragement/interest so far, I'm very curious myself! Maybe I'm being naive, but I just cannot see why this is not a more spoken of subiect. I cannot see why women would not be interested in this from even just a vanity perspective.

>goal, high within female range [ ... ]

I agree completely. With male hormones in steroids I know men often go into much higher than natural ranges, but I think staying in the natural high range is likely my safest option and likely the best start. I'll need to find out where my own natural levels are sitting at first, of course, and see what my body tolerates/what side effects I encounter following. Good to hear the affirmation on the pill vs hrt doses. I am going to assume (but will look better into it before starting) hrt doses will stop my natural production and ill have to rely on them to make up the difference, not just 'add'.

I'll also have to see if excess estrogen converts to something else in cis womens bodies, similar to how too much test can become estrogen in male bodies. Perhaps there is something to counteract this if so, like ais for roiders. I really need to read up more on these basics before going ahead...

>your story
Again, I appreciate your interest. I don't think it's all that unique or anything, though. Tomboyish from a young age, massive dysphoria at puberty, liked girls, in/out of therapy for years over it, identified as male til i turned 18 and began psych approved test use with an endo. Did that for a solid five years or so, really put me in a better place. Still, there was a definite dissatisfaction with the things I could not change. I had that overlooming feeling of not being able to be 'truly' male, body structure I couldn't change, dissatisfaction with my sex life/genitalia that I did not feel surgery would fix. I went into a depressive slope and did a boatload of dxm and the occasional spice of random hard drugs and came out…
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Augustus Bimmerpatch - Wed, 25 Jan 2017 18:03:36 EST ID:ZPrNA+Pr No.402091 Ignore Report Quick Reply
being trans is fucked i always feel like giving up on transitioning, cutting my hair and wearing boys clothes just to be normal looking again. Im pretty sure there's no going back and sadly enough there is no going forward either so ill just wait it out.

about the estrogen sure give it a try who cares it might work it might not, worst case scenario u knock a few years off ur fucked life
Cedric Blummerdale - Wed, 25 Jan 2017 18:30:50 EST ID:W33OzG35 No.402092 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>I am going to assume hrt doses will stop my natural production

Yeah im pretty sure this will happen, so taper off when you stop hrt (if you do stop).

In regards to changes, your voice will always remain as it is now, im not sure how manly you sound, but you can always retrain your voice to sound feminine.

I think if your estrogen is in the female range your body wont convert it, it is pretty hard to get to that point though, but yeah, definitely get your levels checked before you embark, you'll need to get your levels checked a few times over the first year just to get a good balance and so you know whats working and not working.

Thanks for sharing your story. Wouldnt it be cool to just wake up cis?
Im pretty sure estrogen will help with hair growth and help redistribute your fat over time. you gotta remember though it will take time, it might take a year.

But again i totally agree, getting your levels checked is the first step, you might even be able to just take an anti-androgen to block your testosterone receptors assuming you continue to produce higher levels of testosterone compared to estrogen.

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Barnaby Forringsidging - Tue, 14 Feb 2017 20:04:14 EST ID:vfv49Sn9 No.402260 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Okay, I think I'm getting my head wrapped around this problem of yours.

So, estradiol would obviously be questionable if your supposed to already have plenty of that in your system, likely similar amount that many transitioners would be leaving themselves with. Much more is considered cancer roulette, and that's not to imply it actually does much else additionally. So, attempting to evade the pointlessness of it leads to the prospect of forgoeing the estradiol which you already have for something like pure equilin, which is stronger. And that's not saying "premarin", because there it's mixed with two weaker estrogens, including estrone which is weak and kinda carnicinogenic! Whether of not there are any other stronger far out nonhuman estrogens.

Which is what is done by juicers - alternative hormones with different properties. Sorry it fails to be simple like that.

Now, on to the blatantly ignored other half of this issue, if you're not guessing it now instead of later. So, still on the topic of hormones already being in your system, that includes testosterone and/or androstenedione. Which of course implies that antiandrogens would be effective. Well, aside from possibly chocking back precursors to estrogen, yikes, that at the very least implies that GnRH (anti)agonists would fail and backfire. Then there's 5 alpha reductase inhibitors, which would leave estrogen production intact, but just as with the GnRH potential for brain damage, are known for causing Brain Fog, since they do after all block the 5AR metabolites of progestins and corticoids as well as androgens in the brain.

So, that leaves the other AAs as items of interest. If they don't reduce your estrogen levels much, they should allow you to feminize much more probably than some estrogen would. Since abnormally elevated estrogen levels have been aluded to, consider that those were only prescribed before AAs, when overpowering testosterone with huge estrogen levels was all they could come up with, which is no longer the case, with the modern focus on managing relative levels.

Question for you by Phyllis Brellyfad - Tue, 31 Jan 2017 17:39:20 EST ID:vB2e9wpF No.402141 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hello friends

I have a honest question and want an honest answer

I have a very well established life as a guy... I work as a firefighter (paid) and take classes and have a steady life. except since I was 14ish i knew I was trans, I breakdown frequently and see a therapist in secret every week or two...

I was very repressed for various family / upbringing issues. when i was 16 I was close to getting hormones but got cold feet and decided to man up again. Now I am reaching the end of my rope, I am terrified as I am a 21yro man, not extrordinarly masculine but very athletically built, shaved head... 170lbs... etc

Is it worth it at my age? Is it better to just try to live your life than the alternative of never passing... or being the way you feel? Because that certainly terrifies me as much if not more than living my life as is for as long as I can go on.
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William Goodbury - Sat, 11 Feb 2017 20:50:23 EST ID:W33OzG35 No.402238 Ignore Report Quick Reply

yeah that sucks to hear about people fumbling with pronouns, sounds really awkward, it must've be tough to live in between genders, i have no idea how genderqueers do it, but i suppose they do get off on it.

I hope you're able to get the surgery you want and it comes out fine.
So you're feeling alright off of HRT? did all the male things come back for you? have you let your voice drop back into maleness or are you still lifting it unconsciously?

You've experienced something very unique and special and hope you one day put your thoughts to paper even if its only 30 or 40 pages, i'd definitely read it.
Cornelius Clullermodge - Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:13:02 EST ID:spvcLEDE No.402239 Ignore Report Quick Reply
well yeah obviously.

I've also had someone ask why I was in the men's bathroom while I was literally standing up in the middle of taking a piss in the urinal on a night out once when I was still half-way through transition and not presenting as a girl yet.

It gets easier dealing with that shit when it does happen tho. At the end of the day people can believe what they want to believe. I personally don't give a shit if someone believes that trans people are just fucking crazy and that nothing will prevent me from being a man. It just means I won't associate with them at all (unless of course it's a work environment, but then you keep your personal opinions to your fucking self unless you want a shitstorm of PR, no matter which side you're on) I know who I am, I'm way happier as a person like this, and while at the time if someone insults me or demeans me it will cut to the core and genuinely bring me down, I have to take a step back and realise some people are taught different morals and might not understand fully, and some people are just plain ignorant idiots who will never change their narrow view on the world.

Someone being polite and calling me "she" is enough. The joy of "passing" has faded now, being called she and her is commonplace, whether that's down to society getting more understanding, or being lucky in the looks department, it's irrelevant. I don't get a jolt of happiness or the gloom of despair every time someone uses the correct pronouns, I just respond as a person would usually, and correct when necessary.
Polly Brookman - Sat, 11 Feb 2017 23:05:57 EST ID:65uBJARx No.402240 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My femininity is something I am struggling to figure out how to deal with. In someways, for me, a rejection of transitioning also became a rejection of my "gayness". But I must be clear that I don't see it as "hiding" a part of myself or rejecting some necessary component of myself, I see it as fostering the parts of myself I would rather express to people.

So yes things like my voice, how I walk or how I react to things. Because of my life experience I can choose to foster a feminine reaction and behavior or a masculine one. And it depends on the specific things. Somethings about me are more fundamentally feminine and so they will also shine through regardless of hat I desire, but others are more based on how I want others to view me as, and those I have more control over and can decide that in fact I dont WANT to have people think I have a gay voice, I don't WANT to seem like a submissive bitch to people, ect.ect. and I can foster behavior that is the opposite of that. And I can make it a positive thing not a negative thing.

This is why I said we will always be alike in some core ways. I don't think I can delusionally chuck away all the things that led me to transitioning in the first place, its impossible, but I can reframe my life and what makes me happy and decide recalibrate the value I place on things and therefore recalibrate how I need to be in life to be happy or at least less unhappy.

Look I am not unique. Lets be clear. Outliers are rare. What I am is just someone who is speaking about there experience, I am sure there are many others that feel like I do in the trans community and just don't share their views. And many others who react to things in a different way. For instance perhaps they really despise being male and masculinity and being a tranny is light years better than being a man, so even though they agree with me that being a tranny is a rididculous and sucks, and hardly any pass and therefore hardly anyone achieves what they set out to achieve perhaps they still are *less unhappy* as a tranny, than as a man. My friend for instance. She feels only the exact same way as I do about transitioning being a lie and tha…
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William Goodbury - Sun, 12 Feb 2017 07:30:48 EST ID:W33OzG35 No.402242 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Well you certainly have your work cut out for you, But you seem to have a good idea of what you want.

It must be pretty bad for your friend where she has had srs and ffs and is pretty much at the same point as yourself and her choosing to stick with it, but i suppose she went too far and its pretty hard to come back isnt it? As you said, its the costs are sunk, that money aint ever coming back.

But yeah, im with you, i mean if you arent happy on where transition might lead, then why go on? why continue down a path you're incredibly apprehensive about and feel that you wont achieve what you initially thought you would and when your pride is continually smeared. it doesnt make sense that you'd go on, you'd need to have something really wrong with you me thinks.

im sure with your voice you could always just practise a deeper voice, listen to some barry white songs and sing along or something :p

But anyways it definitely seems like you know what you're doing, you know what you want and have a decent idea on how you're going to get it. if you ever need some faux motivation inspiration "accept yourself" mumbo jumbo, you know where to find me ;)

Just onwards and onwards and onwards and dont look back!! :)
I hope you live a life that leads you onto the path of happiness :)
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craniumgirl - Sun, 12 Feb 2017 13:46:05 EST ID:31r/BKcO No.402244 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Although my friend says she regrets transitioning I think she is the type of person that would have had to try regardless of What she knew. She is very "truetrans" but like me she is a very prideful person and we are alike in many ways which makes her life miserable.

She, like me, had a hunch, a feeling, that ffs was bullshit and led nowhere but she didn't have someone to clearly explain the consequences to her. Where as for me after processing everything I am able to make the decision that it is not right for me.

Also the difference between me and the pathetic people tryi g to live a normal life while obsessing about "What if I transitioned " is that I have already been through it and have seen the truth. Whereas those people have to deal with weighing their current lives against a fantasy they created of transition. That is much more agonizing than my position which is that I know transitioning just makes me miserable in different more visceral ways.

Sexual Odessey of a Failed Transwoman by Samuel Blovingnune - Sun, 29 Jan 2017 23:14:13 EST ID:H9777eH0 No.402124 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I have a girl I'm talking to in one of my courses and I'm actually doing quite well as far as being friends with her. But I'm a wimpy intellectual sensitive stallion who doesn't initiate sex very well. So chances are we won't fuck and I don't really mind. I'm kind of a fag anyway so I'm fine with being friends.

I was in to traps and crossdressers really for like the last ten years starting with a reverse trap who dressed like a boy. Basically a girl who dressed like a boy and pretended to be a gay boy. But not a female to male transexual. So it started there but I've always liked women and have had sexual fantasies about them.

Since I was 19 I finally got to the point where I could actually get dates and phone numbers from girls and women but I never got laid and never had a real relationship. It bothered me a little bit, but porn and being self-centered and indifferent made up the difference.

Then I got a little money started going to nice cafes and drinking wine at 19. I found a great bistro that was my little island and brought me into my love for Cotes du Rhone. I also tried to unsuccessfully date this crypto-mormon from Oregon at the same time, it didn't really work at all.

I also had sex with a really hot brazilian transwoman escort who was thicc. She called me a piledriver. My dick isn't long but it has girth.

At the same time I had French shrink who taught me a lot about being cosmopolitan, and in haute society. We never had sex, but God I would bury my face in between her thighs until I suffocated. Unfortunately her ways and my alcoholism did not lead to a lasting relationship.

I sort of had to find someone new and I hired a chick who was literally named Stacie, I shit you not. Worst experience ever, nodding of head and recommendations about coconut water. Made my emotional problems worse all sorts of crap.

I met this very beautiful Persian girl who was the mirror image of my High School obsession. Unlike my high school obsession she was a humble wonderful girl and I never dared asked for her phone number because lets face it I was a dirtbag at the time. But we spoke a few times her conversation was wonderful. A pure girl who spoke perfect English and was so happy to be in America. I would have married her if I could have made an honest woman of her. But I couldn't.
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Graham Blizzleville - Fri, 10 Feb 2017 22:19:16 EST ID:W33OzG35 No.402212 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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you keep saying hate it hate it hate it its tis like you're in my mind and i cant take this anymoe! its the "love trump" hillary clinton banners all over again.

So i dont hate this thread, this thread is an amazing thread full of topical discussion and insight which has turned into a thread about the thread.
Molly Hellyfield - Fri, 10 Feb 2017 23:58:54 EST ID:2k54T+z6 No.402217 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I like you.
Graham Blizzleville - Sat, 11 Feb 2017 00:20:50 EST ID:W33OzG35 No.402219 Ignore Report Quick Reply

:) i like you too!
Cedric Pagglegold - Sat, 11 Feb 2017 06:56:38 EST ID:/ERKLAb1 No.402231 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Cool. People liking each other for once.
William Goodbury - Sun, 12 Feb 2017 07:32:07 EST ID:W33OzG35 No.402243 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I like you too Cedric Pagglegold :)

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