/cd/ Transgender Discussion
maybeIm going to start self meding withestriadolhttp://www.inhousepharmacy.biz/p-333-progynon-depot-10mg.aspxand I cant decide between fincar and spiroany suggestions?On a related note,I like having a penis, (yeah its weird, likes having a dick and is transtiioning)so how do I go about losing as little penis length/girth/ballsas possible
Fap erryday. If worse comes to worse and tear it off, you will grow a new one.Do spiro, and you'll probably lose the sex drive in a month.
I'm assuming there are other late transitioners with this problem. In order to maintain any semblance of femininity in my upper body I have to constantly hold my shoulder blades down and arms slightly back. Does this awkwardness ever go away, I.e. Muscles build and this becomes more automatic? Been on hormones for five months and this is by far my biggest issue.
>>360823well in my perception for some people male puberty really goes into second gear during their twenties. Meaning really thin guys suddenly become masculine men. Maybe it has something to do with working out though...
>>360812I~f your face and voice pass it doesn't matter.
>>360831This. I've fairly wide shoulders, and even though I hate them, nobody even notices them. It's all in your head bro. Besides, if anything, get fat grafts to your hips. Done that to my butt, very happy with it. Next up, breast implants. Can't fucking wait.
>>360832How long do you have fat grafted to your hips? Did some of the fat goes away after some time?
>>360830That's not like bone sizes and etc though. It's more like bone shape, and muscle.
After years of pain I finally had my letter written and faxed to the endocrinologist.Don't give up.
>>360783you are very luckyI wish I lived in Americaafter years of pain im still self medicating with a psychiatrist who won't even give me blood tests :(
>>360784I'm actually Canadian. East coast. That sounds more like a problem with your medical "professional" than America, but then again I wouldn't know
>>360786Here, getting the letter is easy, the hardpart is waiting for the endo.
>I started HRT at 23 and am nearing a month in, the first ~2.5 weeks were incredibly euphoric because they cleared my mind of a feeling of testosterone>Terrible self image, crushing depression: Hate of being male has turned into fear and self loathing of the thought of never passing>Disowned by my family and the only thing that saved me from being homeless was a good friend who took me in>Hardly any money>No car>Very low population town, nearest place to get laser is about an hour and 20 minutes away and my facial hair makes me feel suicidal>Don't even get me started at looking between my legs when I'm naked...>Frequently break down crying because of these thingsHow do I deal with this? My dysphoria had improved a lot but it's just been getting worse and worse lately... Do things ever get better?
>I started HRT at 23 and am nearing a month in, the first ~2.5 weeks were incredibly euphoric because they cleared my mind of a feeling of testosterone>Terrible self image, crushing depression: Hate of being male has turned into fear and self loathing of the thought of never passing>Disowned by my family and the only thing that saved me from being homeless was a good friend who took me in>Hardly any money>No car>Very low population town, nearest place to get laser is about an hour and 20 minutes away and my facial hair makes me feel suicidal>Don't even get me started at looking between my legs when I'm naked...>Frequently break down crying because of these things
>>360794Yeah damn =/ Idk, go into body-less creature mode for a while, yeah it's totally a mode. You are not your body anymore than you are that tree =P I always feel weird commenting(not because I just said some weird shiz lol) because idk how other people have it, like just because this went this way for me doesn't mean it's gonna be your solution or how you get through it, so I feel limited in trying to help. Yeah those visible changes are like it, what we're doing here. Even though I started passing to the old people that come into the hotel, I was like "so what?" I don't pass all of the time by any means, these people don't really matter. Yeah idk, just I do feel like I will be able to live a nice life even if I never really "get there" all the way, I'll find people who love me as a woman/for who I am. I'll always have some issues with not being a "real woman" but I think I can still find happiness, and do periodically lol, even just from one moment to the next. Idk, I eat a lot of psychedelic drugs(including "micro-dosing" which is where I take like a nearly sub-threshold dose of a psychedelic like shrooms or cactus, a dose you can like almost not feel, it really makes for a nice positive day and such) and I think they help me get through stuff a lot, like get through not-fun stuff and also help me be more open and have positive feelings and thoughts about the future and things in general and the possibilities in life, but like I said idk. I'm not trying to recommend them really cuz who knows how it would go for someone else lol. I <3 'em though. So I'm going to stop blabbing maybe now.
>>360797Oh and I feel like I didn't touch on the good things that happen enough either, cuz there are lots of cool things when things do start turning around. Still will have to deal with stuff but they certainly help "make it worth it" as if you had a choice anyway lol. Like I did get excited when I first started passing to those old people, I was like wow really? =D but yeah, just , things do get better =) the ups and downs got really extreme for me for a while, less extreme now haha. Here <3
I'm similar, although I've been on hormones for over a year and a half.Slowly getting happier with my body, but the happier I get with the rest of the body the more dysphoric I get with the tumour between my legs. Can't wait for that horrible disgusting lump of skin to get removed
>>360789 I'm similar, although I've been on hormones for over a year and a half.Slowly getting happier with my body, but the happier I get with the rest of the body the more dysphoric I get with the tumour between my legs. Can't wait for that horrible disgusting lump of skin to get removed
>>360800>>360801sorry guys, 420chan said the post fucked up so I posted a new one. nb
The process of being diagnosed and medicated is long, painful and somewhat costly here in Canada.I turn 21 tomorrow, and I would like to self-medicate. Before worrying about side-effects and dosage, I need a reliable online source for purchasing cheap hormones and anti-androgens. Kliovance and some Spiro was on my mind, but I'm still looking into alternatives.tl;dr where to buy estrogen and anti-androgen online without prescription and have it shipped to CANADA.
I think somebody said QHI shipps to Canada.
>>360741Thanks. Placed order for 2 month supply, cost about 85$. Should be here in 2 to 3 weeks.They only had Progynova (Estradiol Valerate) and Spironolactone.I'll buy another 2 months after the first month just to be safe.I plan on taking 2 x 2mg Progynova and 1 x 100mg Spiro per day.Any tips?>tfw making this order on the day of my birth, 21 yrs ago.
>tfw making this order on the day of my birth, 21 yrs ago.
>>360742I lied it's actually a 3 month supply for that 85$. Definitely cheap @ 28$ a month.
>>360742Yeah, don't take progynova sublingually.
>>360749Wasn't planning on it but you got me curious why not?
Has anyone tried T3 (synthetic thyroid hormone)? Do you think it affected your HRT results at all? I recently started to take T3 to make myself underweight so that I could regain fat in a completely female pattern after, and to shrink any remaining muscle.
>>360785rip thyroidrip op
>>360785the only effect it will have is on your liver, as long as you don't go completely dumb and take more than the recommended dosage.
I was on hrt for about one year taking 200mg spiro + 4mg Estro and recently, I started to take 25mg cyproterone instead of spiro. For about one month I felt my mood became a lot better than It was before and my skin improved a lot. I was very careful with potassium for the entire year I took spiro.Thing is, three days ago, I was watching TV and for about one entire hour I felt short of breath. When I tried to measure my pulse I noticed I had irregular heartbeat. At that time, I felt somewhat nervous and paranoid and I don't know if that's the reason my heart skip some beats. I think I felt the same thing again this morning, but I'm not sure if I'm just freaking out.Is there any reason or chance of cypro causing arrhytmia? Am I too paranoid? Anyone can give me some advice of what to do? Should I go back to spiro?
>>360725I get that at times, but I was on spiro before switching to cypro, and the spiro did the same thing, but even worse. idk if it's a left over side effect of the spiro or cypro has a similar effectI'm pretty sure that cypro has a mild potassium-sparing effect kind of like spiro and that's what's causing it. try reducing your potassium in take
Take licorice root. Lower your dosage to 12.5mg of cypro. Or don't. Twelve miligrams should be plenty for anyone especially after E has given the negative-feedback loop some serious attention. YOUR BODY NEEDS T DAMNIT!
> put on makeup> cut hair girly> 9/10 pass no one suspects> feel gud> next morning> feel like shit> don't want to put makeup on anymore> haven't even worn female clothing in forever> don't even feel like a girl much anymore> I don't want to transition> why did I go through 6 months of therapy> why am i getting prescribed estrogen> why am I doing this with my life> why don't I want to transition anymore???> why can't I just be happy Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
> put on makeup> cut hair girly> 9/10 pass no one suspects> feel gud> next morning> feel like shit> don't want to put makeup on anymore> haven't even worn female clothing in forever> don't even feel like a girl much anymore> I don't want to transition> why did I go through 6 months of therapy> why am i getting prescribed estrogen> why am I doing this with my life> why don't I want to transition anymore???> why can't I just be happy
>>360637What was it that made you keep coming back? Body dysphoria?
I'm not going to tell you that you are or are not trans. You already "pass" without hormones, so we can rule out that this might not be so much a social need you feel. Maybe it's more body- or emotionally-related? Are you obsessing over this for months on end, thinking about it nearly every day? Does your thinking about transitioning (or NOT transitioning) affect your ability to work/study? Are you afraid the effects of Estrogen won't help you, emotionally, physically, or socially? Do you WANT Estrogen to make you happier, but are afraid you might not feel any better as a result? By the time I started Estrogen, I was still full of all kinds of doubt, but I do remember HOPING that HRT would make me happier, and HOPING that I would eventually be able to "pass," even though I had done nothing to work on my gender presentation (clothes, make-up, etc.). The physical changes really confirmed everything- once my nipples started getting puffy and more sensitive, I was just like "oh, this is MUCH better. More, please." I never really did much to work on my presentation until I started gender therapy- I wasn't comfortable with my body enough to try too much. Also, I was only on spiro for 2 weeks before I had my first estradiol injection. So, again, totally different experiences.
I just want to start E now but I need to present as male for at least a year, I am just scared from growing boobs while not being able to hide them, I dont even know where to shop for a sports bra or finding one that could fit my large ribcage, the climate is also hot so I wont be able to hide under hoodies in summer and I just dont know how well I can hide them under a t-shirtanyone have any experience on this topic here? I just dont want to delay E any longer, I am already approaching 8 months on spiro alone
>>360664I do obsess over it . There isn't a day that goes by where I don't think about it. But the thoughts always seem to be "should I do it?" "Am I a boy or a girl?" "I need to start E so I can stop being deprived of a hormone and see if I'll be happy as a girl"I think my body is great. Very slim small waist, ass is fine. I don't cry about not having tits or a vagina. Would I prefer to have a vagina? Yea probably. Do I want to go through transitioning and face all the stigmas associated with it? God no. I don't know what I want.
>>360662Yes. I was basically jumping between coping mechanisms, and in the interim I was here. /cd/ was just as shitty then, it baffled me why I kept returning to such a shithole.
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That's a satire site you mongoloid.
>>360667The site has many uses... don't restrict it.
I don't consider myself a girl, I mean i dont want to be one,I just want to sorta look like one, androgyny is what Im going for.I've always had a pretty feminine body, but I know as I age, Ill start looking more like a dude. So Im going to transition, although, thats not the right word, I just want to look more like a girl is all,Can you point me to some reliable sites for all the info I need to know?I know taimpedia used to have a a page, but I think its down now.
>>360441administration is a bit different. Instead of oral, estrofem can be administered subligually. What you do is stick it under your tongue and wait for it to melt. This method ought to give the estrogen a more direct route into the blood stream. You could still swallow it, but it would be better to melt it under the tongue.Estrofem is micronized whereas progynova is not, so you can't administer progynova by any way but oral.
>point me to some reliable sites for all the info I need to know?
>point me to some reliable sites for all the info I need to know?
>>360401>Your dick will likely shrink.lolwut mine hasn't even shrunk when flaccid, going on three and a half years
>Your dick will likely shrink.
>>360616That sucks, mine shrunk quite considerably which relieved quite alot of dysphoria.When did you start mones?
sup /Seedy/ your friendly Neighbourhood OP needs some Advice!so,without further Adieu, here goes!>be me>be Trans* (MtF)>be 22>be pre-HRT (still am)>came out to Mom about a year ago and so far she's the only one that knows>mom says to not tell anyone>mom tells her therapist at first chance she gets>therapist makes me sit through 3 months of fucking bullshit and never talks about anything other than "what I think my future will be like">tell her some straight up bullshit like "happy, maybe kids,blah blah blah">genuinely feel like eating a shotgun by 25 is "only Viable option" Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>be me>be Trans* (MtF)>be 22>be pre-HRT (still am)>came out to Mom about a year ago and so far she's the only one that knows>mom says to not tell anyone>mom tells her therapist at first chance she gets>therapist makes me sit through 3 months of fucking bullshit and never talks about anything other than "what I think my future will be like">tell her some straight up bullshit like "happy, maybe kids,blah blah blah">genuinely feel like eating a shotgun by 25 is "only Viable option"
>>360598oh and remember, hells angels and biker folks are used to being a fringe society, always seen as outcasts. so they know what it's like to be an outsider and a 'freak', and they know what it means to stick together. don't be afraid to be who you are, just because it's different from them. it may not seem like it, but this might be the best family for you to have in this scenario. you have a bunch of folks who genuinely know what it's like to be judged and hated, and who know how to stick together no matter what. yeah they have a bad rap for being violent assholes, but i doubt they'll be that way to their own flesh and blood. when you come out, don't even accept that as a possibility. they'll respect the authority you have over your own life.
>>360587I am a former 1%r. My Dad is a member of Outlaws.Things went surprisingly well.
>>360587Is your dad hot?
>>360605what? how is this relevant to the situation?
I have no idea how your family will react, no one will.Serious therapists recommend becoming financially stable for this reason before coming out and transitioning. In your case, it seems highly relevant. We have no idea of your background other than some homophobic people in your family. Also, you do have the chance of making LGBT issues normal to those who feel like it isn't. If you can show them that LGBT people are normal like everyone else, you could pull it around and make your family more open.
So I finally got the courage to buy hormones after last year's therapy, getting a prescription last year, and subsequently chickening out. My script is expired and the place I went to says I am too old to help (24) so I went to In House Pharmacy. Then I get a e mail saying the pre paid card from the US is no good there. Now what do I do? How the fuck can an American buy from In House?
Use a regular visa like everyone else? I'm pretty sure they do e-check too.
>>358795And what about mastercard or paypal? I feel like they used to, not 100%. I used to buy but can't anymore, it's weird. And e-check seems a bit shady somehow.
>>359985they used to but stopped. i dont know about where you live, but in australia every post office has "visa cards" where you can put money on them and use them everywhere like a normal credit card. Maybe look for one of them and read the packaging to make sure you can use then for overseas as inhouse is in Vanuatu.
If you're using a prepaid card and making an order above $200 you might need to ask IHP to split the charges into two or three separate charges.I got a prepaid visa from Netspend and got the same email. After calling Netspend, they told me to tell the shop to do smaller charges.So I called IHP and the lady was really nice and friendly. She split my order of $326 into two charges of $163 and it went thru in seconds.
>>360190My prepaid didn't work at all. Go go de-transition. I guess it was inevitable though, considering I can't afford a doctor. Maybe some of the drug boards can pass along their thousands in spare cash for their lifestyle, hah. Gods this is depressing. I should have gotten an orchi when I had the money. Someone link an uplifting website of some cats or something.
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