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Breastfeeding Water by Rebecca Tillingdale - Tue, 26 Aug 2014 19:21:00 EST ID:oEW8zkXq No.377356 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Sup /cd/,

Right now I'm freaking out a little bit.
I've been on Hormones for about 2,5 months (200mg Spiro + 6mg Estradiol Valerate) and my breasts are budding just fine.
But now I've just noticed that when I sqeeze the area around my areolas there's comming some clear liquid out of my Nipples.
That's not good I guess.

Yeah well, that's pretty much it... and I'm freaking out.
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Priscilla Pommerway - Wed, 27 Aug 2014 13:18:02 EST ID:WB6N86S0 No.377392 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OP, who are you breastfeeding to?
Nigger Tootcocke - Wed, 27 Aug 2014 15:43:48 EST ID:oEW8zkXq No.377397 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My inner Demons.
Betsy Drackleshit - Thu, 28 Aug 2014 20:19:13 EST ID:o5fBRnMt No.377475 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Oh God Demons.
Nigel Pommerfog - Fri, 29 Aug 2014 05:27:50 EST ID:oEW8zkXq No.377491 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah, it's the milk of the Devil!
Betsy Drackleshit - Fri, 29 Aug 2014 19:20:06 EST ID:o5fBRnMt No.377514 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Lucifer is worse than his dad.

Hiding Breasts? by Charles Ferringdock - Wed, 16 Jul 2014 14:29:32 EST ID:E+pImF7q No.375473 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm currently on HRT and I'm starting to bud and grow breasts, but I'm afraid I'm going to lose my job or not be able to obtain jobs throughout transition. I'd like to continue to work and be treated as a male in the workforce just for the job security. Because, no job = no 'mones. How do you hide your boobage? How well can you hide 'em and what's your cup size?
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Eliza Donnerwill - Wed, 27 Aug 2014 20:54:53 EST ID:JxOh5YId No.377409 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Move to Seattle, there is a very friendly LGBT community here, or you could move to San Francisco, or pretty much any other major cities on the west coast. We have anti-discrimination policies for transgender, etc.
Doris Goodworth - Thu, 28 Aug 2014 12:52:28 EST ID:E+pImF7q No.377451 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I'm actually in the south, so I think I'm going to consider this. I'm having an even harder time hiding breast as I was a month ago (OP here..), and honestly if I can live near an informed consent clinic, I'd be a lot happier with a lot less stress of eventually losing my source. So, I'll look into it. I just haven't ever lived that far away from my folks, so a little hesitant..
Jack Drenderhall - Thu, 28 Aug 2014 17:17:00 EST ID:dJZVewcJ No.377468 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Stop worrying, literally no one cares, and pretty much everyone I've dated thought they were hot
Jack Drenderhall - Thu, 28 Aug 2014 17:22:25 EST ID:dJZVewcJ No.377469 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My experience: ex military, boy mode, lived in central texas and now college in Cali.
Cedric Huvinglutch - Fri, 29 Aug 2014 02:15:04 EST ID:E+pImF7q No.377488 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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But I'm not in Texas, I'm in the south and outside of major cities, we're not known for our tolerances. I work at Walmart but I'm in the backroom with a lot of men, and I'm already at the butt of a lot of homophobic comments and I'm not even "out" yet. My family is also deeply religious and I'm going to dropped from the family if it got out. I'm not out of the closet. I'm pansexual, so as far as they're concerned I'm straight, they've only met the girls I have been with. So I'm staying in the closet until I'm out of the south or convincingly pass all the time. It's much better than being shot up in a parking lot if you ask me.

But if that's you, you're adorable - you remind me of a friend. I just don't think your advice applies everywhere. If I wasn't where I was then maybe.

Maturity. by Jarvis Pabberpirk - Thu, 28 Aug 2014 02:29:30 EST ID:4KCgA8zh No.377414 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Did you think of yourself as 'mature' before transition?

Do you think it matters?
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Wesley Saddleridge - Thu, 28 Aug 2014 10:42:15 EST ID:6TLgKpOT No.377440 Ignore Report Quick Reply
dammit mature* obvs
Ian Focklegold - Thu, 28 Aug 2014 14:34:21 EST ID:rift3TwE No.377461 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I realized that I was an adult whenever I was put in charge of a classroom. I might be a bit of a kid at heart, but I'm not a child anymore. Being an adult is basically knowing how to act in certain situations. You're not a kid at work. You're not a kid when you pay your bills. You're not a kid when you are deciding the future of your life. You can be a kid whenever all the work is done... Or during break time.
Ian Focklegold - Thu, 28 Aug 2014 14:35:19 EST ID:rift3TwE No.377462 Ignore Report Quick Reply
And this was two years after starting HRT.
Betsy Drackleshit - Thu, 28 Aug 2014 20:12:40 EST ID:o5fBRnMt No.377473 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I'm 22 and feel very old, I'll be 23 and know that FFS will have to be done eventually.
I also have an alcoholic streak that I've nurtured over the last nine years. Yes nine years.
Eugene Pungerway - Fri, 29 Aug 2014 02:07:57 EST ID:ZWLiwVuP No.377487 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Started at 23, could of potentially started anywhere between 16 (when i dropped out of high school due to sadbrains) and then.

Here is the thing, as much as I will kick myself till the day I die about not starting at 16. I didn't have the psychological maturity to handle it, I couldn't even get myself out of bed most days, let alone face fucking transition. When I started at 23, in grad school, , I had a plan, goals, dates and timelines. I also was ready to do whatever I needed to make it work, because I knew there would only be one option left for me if I fucked it up. So yeah, I was mature in a very basic sense, though I feel much more so after.

FFS: Experience and Quandry by Nathaniel Pecklestore - Thu, 28 Aug 2014 14:12:34 EST ID:PDNiy9YG No.377458 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Any and / or all FFS content and commentary is welcome.

Specifically: I threw down with Zukowski last month for a surgery date this November and am now doubting my decision. I chose him based solely on his results and shorter line of (forehead) incision. His office is, in my experience, have been incredibly disorganized with almost no redundant scheduling information between associates.

I'm afraid now any communication is suspect, and that's given me a somewhat irrational fear of what to expect will happen while unconscious.

wat do?
Ian Focklegold - Thu, 28 Aug 2014 14:15:22 EST ID:rift3TwE No.377459 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hope that some rich lady's dog isn't scheduled for a facelift at the same time and they mix up the paperwork and do a face transplant?
Cedric Niggerhall - Thu, 28 Aug 2014 19:46:59 EST ID:TT8lLa1m No.377471 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Trust your gut feeling. A similar thing happened with me having a rhinoplasty and regretted going with the surgeon that did it. Now I'm gonna have to pay $1000s more to get it fixed.

wtf voice by Samuel Drullerlock - Thu, 28 Aug 2014 16:55:49 EST ID:lLHejkS2 No.377467 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I tried all the stuff in the links but I still sound like a Monty Python sketch
Am I doing it wrong or does everyone sound terrible at the beginning and only get girly after a lot of practice?
Nathaniel Collylock - Thu, 28 Aug 2014 17:59:49 EST ID:2o7oBapo No.377470 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Your voice needs to be trained. It isn't a matter of just having the right technique and suddenly you can speak like a girl. You have to build up the proper muscles in your throat. That takes time.

Crying? by Oliver Forringbury - Thu, 28 Aug 2014 03:39:25 EST ID:u5QjDlNC No.377417 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I've been watch old movies and parts that didn't seem to strike me before are bringing me to tears.

Have any of you experienced this? Is it hormones or am I just being emotional?
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Jarvis Sillyspear - Thu, 28 Aug 2014 04:16:39 EST ID:dlm88BQn No.377421 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I found the same self-discovery that led me to transition also let me open up and experience the emotions I need to. This was before HRT. Maybe E makes it easier, but hormones aren't just forcing me to cry.
Cornelius Drillydene - Thu, 28 Aug 2014 08:37:59 EST ID:SDtfVdTd No.377431 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I played through FFX again after I was on hormones for three months (Ive finished it before like, 20 times) cried a LOT that time. Usually I used to just not give a fuck.
Jarvis Pabberpirk - Thu, 28 Aug 2014 08:41:08 EST ID:4KCgA8zh No.377433 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Yeah, as cliche as it sounds... rom-coms have become like the best movies ever.
Ian Focklegold - Thu, 28 Aug 2014 14:51:42 EST ID:rift3TwE No.377463 Ignore Report Quick Reply
As politically incorrect as it may seem, I think hormones have made me cry more. Now of course, coming to see myself as a girl has removed the social stigma of "men don't cry", but there are times whenever I really didn't want to cry but I couldn't stop myself.

I lost my job because some asshat co-worker decided it was a good idea to attack me. I defended myself. I had a knife. I didn't press charges.
I'm really hard on myself and I had just spent four days staying at home feeling like shit and worrying over how to pay the bills and over the career implications of me losing a job this way.
I had dinner plans with my family that week and I decided to go because it would be good for me to get out of the house. I pretty much spent the whole time crying. I wanted to stop but I just fucking couldn't. I went to another room to do the crying, sure, but I pretty much ruined the dinner for everyone else. Knowing I ruined dinner, that made me feel even more shitty and caused even more tears.

Shit like that never happened before HRT. I wanted to stop and couldn't-so it isn't a result of just being more open to my feelings. I cry all the fucking time now and I can't imagine that 100% of it comes from just being more open.
Wesley Saddleridge - Thu, 28 Aug 2014 15:04:26 EST ID:6TLgKpOT No.377465 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Tbf that sounds like a pretty intense situation. I can imagine it might take some letting out or dealing with.

Just spiro? by James Gunnerdud - Tue, 26 Aug 2014 13:07:15 EST ID:KrQESDE2 No.377345 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So i spent 3 months on 100mg spiro and 2mg estrofem, and I've enjoyed the results I've gotten overall. However, I like my little boobies, but I kinda want to take it slow. Also, money issues, and I'm curious. Would it be safe to take just 200mg of spiro each day for an extended period?
What do you imagine the results of this would be like?
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Faggy Brookfield - Wed, 27 Aug 2014 19:21:17 EST ID:SDtfVdTd No.377404 Ignore Report Quick Reply
And I am telling you, pizza made me grow a vagina. you should eat that stuff! (the fact that I got srs is unrelated!)

seriously though, you have been rused. she took estrogen along with it.
Basil Bardstone - Wed, 27 Aug 2014 19:25:16 EST ID:x2wQ37Fe No.377406 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I grew wings from drinking Red Bull, and no1 belives me.
Polly Sallerwark - Wed, 27 Aug 2014 20:06:06 EST ID:IOSciS8C No.377408 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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i grew boobs from consuming a very high soy diet for 2 years. Don't believe people unless you've tried it. Body chemistry is weird.
Phineas Soffingletch - Wed, 27 Aug 2014 21:08:29 EST ID:GkzU4QPw No.377410 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>i grew boobs from consuming a very high soy diet for 2 years.
I believe you! People here just don't realise that very high soy diets are also very high calorie diets. You can totally grow some wicked moobs from that!
Charlotte Dugglecocke - Thu, 28 Aug 2014 12:11:09 EST ID:qAlPt10z No.377446 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>What do you imagine the results of this would be like?

Some stupid questions, why not? by Shit Drunkintug - Tue, 26 Aug 2014 02:16:59 EST ID:AbNvK7zH No.377333 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I heard recently about a drug that develop the body in a feminine manner without developing breasts, and it had me wondering if there might be any drugs that, similarly, develop the body without compromising the penis?

I've also been reading that injections are far more effective than pills, but it'll be half a year before I can get a consult on that. I'm curious if there's anything I can take to "lead up" to injections, or should I just wait?
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William Febberstut - Tue, 26 Aug 2014 03:26:03 EST ID:4hmuaxNB No.377339 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Oh and it might shrink a little lol. Mine did. Also I find it's really difficult to orgasm while having sex. Not sure if that's just me or the hormones, but I can orgasm fine if I'm just masturbating.
Augustus Creddlechot - Tue, 26 Aug 2014 06:15:35 EST ID:QQXJA9fM No.377340 Ignore Report Quick Reply


6 months hrt so far here. Also doing injections. 10mg estradiol valerate every week, via intramuscular injection.

I've made sure to masturbate or have sex at least once a week, if not more. I could go without sex/masturbation easily, for a long time, so some weeks I kind of force myself, but whatever.

Erect, my dick is almost the same size as before, but my balls have shrank a whole lot, I spooge a small amount of clear liquid. When it's soft, it's much smaller than before. Pre hrt I was a grower, rather than a shower. Tiny dick flaccid, huge dick hard. Now it's laughably tiny flaccid, and still pretty big hard

As far as "leading up" to injections goes, there is nothing you can really do, other than take estrogen pills.

Your first injections, you're going to feel more than the others.

The morning after my very first, I felt kinda ill. That week, I had way more tit growth pain, discomfort, heat, itchyness, etc.
Augustus Creddlechot - Tue, 26 Aug 2014 06:19:07 EST ID:QQXJA9fM No.377341 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also, I was on estrogen oral pills for a month before I started injections
James Nubberspear - Tue, 26 Aug 2014 14:02:00 EST ID:JJELCMid No.377349 Ignore Report Quick Reply
George Fabberchene - Wed, 27 Aug 2014 21:29:46 EST ID:Zo1RVMN4 No.377412 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Helpful info. Thanks. I'm heavily debating taking pills until I can take injections (though they freak me out a bit) but I don't know if there would really be a point.

Explaining stuff by Fucking Gaffingshaw - Fri, 22 Aug 2014 07:54:14 EST ID:9WFeHMd4 No.377168 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Sup /cd/,

Right now I'm in the act of wrting some pages for my parents to help them wrapping their mind around what it is like for me beeing trans plus some autobiographical stuff.
I'm really having a hard time to find the right words explaining what Disphoria feels like to someone who never experienced it...

...Some how feels like explaining the color shitty brown to a blind person.

Strangely I find that those common terms like "Trapped in the wrong body" don't transport the feeling all too good and are pretty abstract.
So i thought maybe some of the more poetic people here have found the right words for explaining their Dysphoria.

ITT:What does Dysphoria feels like.
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Cedric Hennerham - Sun, 24 Aug 2014 17:52:04 EST ID:g18DicJ9 No.377266 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've had a response to therapists/people asking me questions like this for a while.

To me, dysphoria is similar to waking up in a hotel room. In the haze where you're not quite awake but not asleep, you feel the bed. It's wrong. The ceiling looks different. The entire room smells different and the bed isn't the right size. For a brief second you truly believe you're still in your room, but it's <i> wrong </i>. After a second you wake fully and realise you're just in a different room.
Now imagine if that was a prison cell. You feel way too large for your bed, you're waking up to bars and concrete. You feel trapped, claustrophobic. After enough time in a prison cell, you may start to forget what your bedroom was like. Hell, it may not have ever existed, but deep down you know that you shouldn't be in this cell, you should be in your own room. Maybe you're allowed to customise the cell a little, put up a poster, hang a painting. But no matter how pretty you make it, it's still a cell, and there's no door.
You wake up every single fucking day, and for a brief second, you expect to be what (in your mind) you are. But you're not. You're stuck in this shitty ill-fitting ugly body that feels less your own, more a shell someone stuck a conscience in. The desire to get rid of it is overwhelming. You look in the mirror and there's such a disconnect to your own body that it doesn't quite feel real, but at the same time you know you're stuck with it, making it also almost too real.

I get points where I'm genuinely shocked with what I find in my underwear. I outright forget I'm not a real girl. And those points are the worst. As soon as I realise I'm not, everything comes crashing down. If I notice one point wrong with me, I start to notice every other little thing wrong with me, and I feel alien in my own body. The sheer helplessness of it overwhelms me. It angers me, saddens me, destroys me every time I think how far off surgery truly is for me (my main source of dysphoria, obviously not the same for everyone). And even then, what the fuck is surgery going to do? I won't have a vagina I'll have a surgically altered p…
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Charlotte Grandson - Mon, 25 Aug 2014 18:51:08 EST ID:TCJHQEL3 No.377317 Ignore Report Quick Reply

OP here,

This does explain how I feel my dysphoria near perfectly!

Thank you so much.
Charlotte Pezzlewater - Tue, 26 Aug 2014 15:27:37 EST ID:LT9IZq/v No.377352 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Wow, that is very powerful, the ending had me in tears. I am just going through therapy right now (I have had one session so far) and have been struggling to put my dysphoria into words, thank you so much for this it has helped me alot.
Ian Chabberwater - Tue, 26 Aug 2014 20:12:58 EST ID:32zryDg0 No.377359 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This is pretty much it right here, sums it up completely.
Nigger Tootcocke - Tue, 26 Aug 2014 20:14:47 EST ID:oEW8zkXq No.377360 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Jup, this post should definitely be remebered for future generation to come.

Welcome to the Milkbar. by Lydia Nagglestone - Tue, 26 Aug 2014 01:20:58 EST ID:m4/ZXYJ7 No.377326 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hello /cd/,

I have a delicate question for you.
How long did it take for you on HRT to stop ejaculating?
Richt now I'm like 2 months in with 200mg Spiro and 6mg Estradiol Valerate a day and while it's impossible for me to get an errection without direct physical stimulation, I can still cum and it's still milky.

My problem is, that the soonest I can get my Hormonelevels checked is in like aboout 1,5 - 2 months.

I'm kinda worried. :(
Charlotte Billingville - Tue, 26 Aug 2014 06:26:05 EST ID:4KCgA8zh No.377342 Ignore Report Quick Reply

couple of months more, it tapers off.
Edward Donderwuck - Tue, 26 Aug 2014 13:05:04 EST ID:Mwos5Bw9 No.377344 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've been on 100mg spiro for about 7 months and I can still cum a little bit, and when I have sex theres alot of precum. I'm pretty sure its all just gunk though and theres no swimmers in it.
Augustus Hannerpotch - Tue, 26 Aug 2014 13:18:51 EST ID:/Rk+rKer No.377346 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Not to be disrespectful but how do these pornstars blow such "healthy" loads?
Charlotte Mabblehetch - Tue, 26 Aug 2014 13:33:57 EST ID:SDtfVdTd No.377348 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Photoshop and other tricks.
the one that do it natural just stop taking HRT for a while in between to not lose that ability.
Jarvis Pabberpirk - Thu, 28 Aug 2014 02:34:53 EST ID:4KCgA8zh No.377416 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Who really knows?

I Always thought they just got boob impants and took that purifica magica herbal thing (amongst other supplements) for the soft skin. Because the porn stars also have huge penises' which is also uncommon amongst trans folk, cuz' hormones cause some amount of shrinkage in the genital region.

Living stealth sucks by Nigger Dadgemurk - Tue, 19 Aug 2014 04:58:14 EST ID:+SRNfON3 No.377009 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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When no ones knows you're trans it's just one shitty moment after moment wondering how long till they find out. None of my friends know, none of my coworkers know, none of my roommates know. I don't think I would be kicked out or fired but I know it would change our relationships for the worse. So every interaction is finely tempered and measured to make sure I never out myself. I feel as if going back into stealth has made me as inauthentic as I was before I transitioned.
And when I do manage to let go and have a good time, and let's say a boy wants to have a good time with me, they are probably friends of friends or someway involved with people who I dont want to find out. So it stops short of what I'd like it to be. I can't even confess and find out if they are accepting, because that would be too risky. I want to share who I am because I am proud of everything it took to get here, but if I share with the wrong people I risk losing everything that makes me proud.

At least when I was out I knew my friends accepted me. But I stopped hanging around the community because I wanted stealth. I'm not saying I regret it, but it has downsides. Everyone is in their race to pass and disappear but it's not as green as you dream it.
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Hamilton Mippershaw - Mon, 25 Aug 2014 00:38:30 EST ID:+SRNfON3 No.377286 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think that is wrong. I know there are guys out there who are cool with it, but I'm uncomfortable going on a date with someone when they don't know about it.

Thanks for not beating someone up I guess? What are you doing on here now?
Thomas Fuckingstock - Mon, 25 Aug 2014 00:58:30 EST ID:o5fBRnMt No.377288 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I didn't know I was trans back then.
I'm here now to troll,offer bad advice and be a general nuisance.
And derail porn threads.
Nathaniel Wegglelere - Mon, 25 Aug 2014 03:12:47 EST ID:1v5QCWWp No.377289 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The girls I end up going after are either bi or bi curious. They don't care. Lesbians are a toss up but I generally haven't had a bad time. This one girl chased after me but she was too clingy. The others were my ex gfs from when I was a boy lol. We ended up fooling around after I came back to town.
Nathaniel Wegglelere - Mon, 25 Aug 2014 03:18:47 EST ID:1v5QCWWp No.377290 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No one reads profiles on okc anyway lol. If youre gonna do okc, message boys who you think are cute and if you end up trusting him, tell him. Worst case you made a friend who you can meet new people (and new potential bfs) through. Thats all there is to it, just make a ton of different friends. I havent met any jerks on okc so far.

Nb cuz double post
Hamilton Wandledock - Mon, 25 Aug 2014 18:01:52 EST ID:1HEXUKTQ No.377316 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>message boys

confirmed for trap

Herbal/Natural HRT by Phoebe Gindlesare - Wed, 06 Aug 2014 04:27:12 EST ID:o5fBRnMt No.376419 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Since this board is so God damn slow I'd figure we'd have an honest conversation on the subject.

>Soybean and red clover isoflavones are two varieties of these weak estrogen-like substances.
>Licorice root
>Pueraria mirifica (Kwao Krua)
>Black Cohash
>Pumpkin Seeds

Couldn't supplements such as dandelion and women's menopausal herbal supplements enhance or assist the affects of tried and true HRT. I haven't heard anyone talk about the benefits or good points of herbal HRT. People only talk shit.

>I'm a bit of a greenie foodie and don't want to be another transDrone
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Doris Gonnerwater - Thu, 14 Aug 2014 08:58:06 EST ID:8AybDuUP No.376832 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It does thats why older women start losing their hair.
Frederick Sezzletune - Fri, 15 Aug 2014 18:53:00 EST ID:cSXwmbed No.376894 Ignore Report Quick Reply
male pattern baldness in postmens women is just a sign for unbalanced hormones, meaning they have so much T that gets converted to DHT that triggers this baldness. Estrogen doesnt make hair come or go. Its the testo.
Edward Biggleput - Wed, 20 Aug 2014 00:13:51 EST ID:xM+AS+KH No.377029 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OK so what about some one whom only wishes to reduces the effects of T? Not fully transition?
Mainly I would like to become more androgenous and confuse people.
I'm qender queer an believe that masculinity as a whole is a failure.
Whitey Duzzlechodge - Sat, 23 Aug 2014 18:53:13 EST ID:o5fBRnMt No.377222 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>I'm qender queer an believe that masculinity as a whole is a failure.

It's not a failure it's contrived and confused just like many women.

>Mainly I would like to become more androgenous and confuse people.

You could transition and have much the same effect.
Phoebe Bellerhall - Mon, 25 Aug 2014 10:08:18 EST ID:jkG0+QQt No.377296 Ignore Report Quick Reply
you could take a t blocker
like an AA
low dose it, although Im not sure it'd do anything

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