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Insurance by Hamilton Greenford - Thu, 07 Apr 2016 22:15:55 EST ID:b9bBlYzM No.397998 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm 19 and still live with my parents (unfortunately) and I'm on my parents insurance as well. I want to go see a therapist so I can transition but am afraid my parents will find out and will kick me out right away. Anyway my question is will my parents be able to see my prescription for HRT once I get it on the insurance bill? If so is there a way around it? I have Anther bluecross blueshield.
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Jarvis Lighthood - Tue, 21 Jun 2016 23:09:50 EST ID:ONfyKInb No.398737 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398042
Stop the drugs and transition already before last destroys your mind completely
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Phineas Hevingdidge - Wed, 22 Jun 2016 14:54:43 EST ID:Y5SzC1IJ No.398741 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398734
Stream of conscious? It's easier for one and possibly most of all and this is some anonymous board anddd idk I like it? less pretentious maybe? Also yes drugs and stuff maybe one could say not that I couldn't do something equally as like that without them haha. Not eating enough can have me going too, like being "fasted." And stuff lol.

>>398735
ouch though to be expected lol

>>398737
Y'all must be new here or something? You commented on the other thread I posted in lol I am transitioning/have transitioned. Like coming up on 4 years or something, many ups and downs lol. I know you like used it to delay transition you say supposedly and try to enjoy being a man butt I'm not doing that haha.
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Phineas Hevingdidge - Wed, 22 Jun 2016 14:57:50 EST ID:Y5SzC1IJ No.398742 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398741
If y'all want me to tone it down and make it more easily digestible and socially acceptable thennnn idk I'm sorry I can't guarantee that, not even sure if I'm gonna try really. Unless you do engage me in a discussion and it seems necessary/helpful enough maybe then lol.
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Phineas Hevingdidge - Wed, 22 Jun 2016 15:09:05 EST ID:Y5SzC1IJ No.398743 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398734
Omg I just finally re-read that and that ain't shit haha compared to some things I do, though it is pretty sloppy, I had a lot of ideas stewing in my head for a while that came out there, about how to live life, or things, or how it works for people, or whatever lol. And yes it's easier than organizing it to a more understandable way and I don't care enough to most of the time lol. I just wanted to get it out of my head I think haha. So many things to consider, you know =P
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Thomas Clemblesan - Thu, 23 Jun 2016 11:44:23 EST ID:bVOhqQ+5 No.398754 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>397999
>It's obscenely disrespectful to your parents to want to transition under their nose.

laff

This kind of mentality will trap you for life, and I do mean yours; their deaths will not free you from it.


never ever by Archie Pittfield - Fri, 10 Jun 2016 13:54:58 EST ID:YycAq8/G No.398604 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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you'll never be 'one of the girls'

lol soz lol soz

at least not while you have a penis :/
just the way it is!!!

fuck man i get panic attacks in bathrooms and feel like i have stokholm syndrome from all the terf shit i have read saying i am invading womens born womens spaces.

i had a girl over last night who stayed in my bed as a freind because she trusts me and we cuddled and snuggled a bit in the morning, very intimate but also just freinds. the whole time i felt like i was doing something so very wrong, i felt shame and guilt and i felt fucked up because i have so much conditioning which was telling me 'shes into you' - 'thats a move that shows shes interested in me" but i wasnt interested in her at all and i just wished this part of my brain didnt exist due to years of trying to think like a guy? i just wanted to relax and sleep!
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Emma Sandershaw - Fri, 17 Jun 2016 02:37:00 EST ID:YycAq8/G No.398678 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>398677
Oh my god the veil has been lifted and now i can see clearly!!
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Henry Sottingman - Fri, 17 Jun 2016 19:54:53 EST ID:DD2Nfeu0 No.398684 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398614
This.
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Albert Poddlefield - Sat, 18 Jun 2016 00:50:35 EST ID:YycAq8/G No.398692 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398689
yeah its pretty telling really
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Fanny Gissleham - Sat, 18 Jun 2016 02:05:53 EST ID:xxBXP/re No.398699 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398689
give me a break, adult women sleeping and cuddling in the same bed? even if friends, this simply doesn't happen.
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Alice Druvingstadge - Sun, 19 Jun 2016 21:42:43 EST ID:uMxYoCPw No.398723 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398699
yep! napps, cuddle, snuggles, sleep.

she came over again the other night and it was very intimate with no sexual stuff at all. we just studied together and when it was time for sleep we lay together in embrace, again no touching, at least maybe if she wanted me to i didnt because i didnt want to and i didnt want to make it awkward.

Not all girls do this - its like nudity, some girls dont mind getting changes in front of others and some do??
Its also like sleepovers and pillow fights? like that kind of stuff does actually happen but its not sexual?

i say this as someone who has lived with cis girls under 25 for the last 2 years.
everyones different though its really how comfortable and secure the person feels with their body.
like i have a freind who ALWAYS has her eyeliner on, she must do it when she goes to the bathroom in the morning i guess.


Transgenderism and Gender Dsyphoria by Eugene Drurrycocke - Fri, 03 Jun 2016 08:46:59 EST ID:xYsIvlCq No.398503 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Is it possible to be trans and not have gender dysphoria? I just know I am a girl, but I don't have any desire to go through a second puberty, inverting my dick, taking voice lessons, doing tons of other surgery, and still never truly becoming a CIS woman.

Gender dysmorphia seems like a horrible mental disease (not trying to be mean to anyone, it sucks having suicidal thoughts, depression and a desire to self mutilate) and I would just rather stay in a man's body than to be some sort of half woman that chasers go after, and CIS men would probably dump unless they're chasers, which are disgusting.

I might be speaking to the wrong crowd though since most of you guys do want to transition, will call me non 'true-trans' or are in the process of it. I've told people about me, and they just call me gay, I imagine if I took female hormones I'd just end up liking guys because hormones and chemicals changes a person.

Thoughts?
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Alice Gungerdock - Sun, 12 Jun 2016 14:31:20 EST ID:Clvwtn6d No.398637 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398553
Honestly, I don't know who you're agreeing with. Though, I'm starting to think you're agreeing with OP.

>but if not that then like really what - what aspect of your life do you feel the need to be recognized as female???
The physical aspect? That's really the important part, and closely tied with social dysphoria.

>also while generally people who are trans have dyshoria, just because you are trans doesnt mean you are female? like you identify with femme stuff? or women? so what? congrats - you have empathy? what do you actually want???
This is the part which confuses me, in if you're agreeing with OP, or me.

Yes, I don't know what OP is meaning he knows he's a girl about.
Liking femme stuff doesn't mean you feel female, or agreeing with women doesn't mean you feel female. It's just that, congratulations, you feel empathy.

But then, if you're not agreeing with me, I'm guessing you're just as clueless as the cis people who pretend to be trans on tumblr are.
Dysphoria comes in basically 2 categories
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William Borryhood - Mon, 13 Jun 2016 01:29:28 EST ID:YycAq8/G No.398648 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398637
i was agreeing with you but i think your response was helpful for the OP too but they probably wont take it in.

and i agree with what you are said here - personally, to me.

my reasons for being trans arent like 'reasons' i just slot better into the gender binary as female on a social and sexual level so its very tribal for me. I dont know why and i fought against it for 15 years, i even tried to condition myself into manhood while on acid, always looking for validation and a sense or feeling that YES i am manly, masculine, yes i feel good about this! and while i enjoyed the priviliges and i had my moments, i hated it, i hated testosterone, i hated being seen as a man, i hated the way men spoke to me, i hated the way women perceived me, i hated the way I spoke to everyone.

I studied neurology and psychology for years hoping i could reason my way out of it, i tried to agree with terfs, i tried to see it from their perspective and then i tried to argue and after years and years of this i found myself sitting on some steps in my garden at 3 am with the simple truth that i am what i am.

When i started hrt it was like i regained my powerful sense of emotions, both in myself and others. 2 years later my whole approach to life is radically different; i am happy, i have friends, a loving partner who makes me pancakes in the morning, i go to school and i get scholarships for getting good grades.

I REALLY wanted to grow tall, to have my shoulders broaden, my jawline and for my brow to grow! i wanted my voice to get deep and ragged so i could be like COOL and edgy! but i would get in the shower when i was waking up and look down at my hands, now large and bony and i would hate them! they werent slim and cute anymore and i felt so horrendous. they are still slender but they lost that femininity, and then the rest of me did too and i watched my body change i slowly realised : actually, no i dont like this, i dont like any of this. and then i had to confront a whole reality that i was projecting.

and i did try to make it a sex thing and a physical thing but when i finally let myself keep the wig and dress on i looked in the mirror and i saw a person i could have been i knew i had to at least explore it, give it a chance and then 3 years later here we are :/ most of my freinds are female and people see me and identify me as female and identify with womanhood to a deep degree, but i also identify with the trans discourse in that i see transmen as having vaginas and periods to be a fact which really opens up the way we should refer to gender and sex etc. but ALSO i have had genital dysphoria since i first started having sexual thoughts, which i tried to repress etc etc same old story tbh
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Thomas Clushham - Tue, 14 Jun 2016 13:53:15 EST ID:1uMKuhFS No.398659 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398648
OP here, its scary how similar my situation is with yours, including the psychology and the acid trip. i am afraid of being in between worlds instead of being comfortably unhappy, as I have known no other way.

What do you think of yourself now? Are you happy with your current place in life? I already dress pretty fem like a gay guy (I will never have that rugged manly look either sadly) so maybe I am already in the state where I just won't really belong with society anyway.
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Phyllis Femblecocke - Tue, 14 Jun 2016 20:04:49 EST ID:YycAq8/G No.398660 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398659
maybe on paper and im sure you can relate but tbh its allot more and i left the sexual aspect pretty early on because its very sexist and the whole 'feminizing the male' being a sexual fetish is misogynistic and gross.

Honestly i am better now but i still have the same problems in a sense except i am approaching them with more maturity with respect to others.

i dont think its bad being between worlds, seems like you have an issue there - transitioning wont solve that. I think you need to resolve that. We are all somewhere between anyway, especially trans people - just a fact of the gig sorry.

like you can be totally passing and you still wont have a period or get pregnant or you wont be able to have a dick is ftm. See what imsaying? our society is so gendered, getting married and raising children is still seen as the core experience of womanhood so you wont even get away from that in this society. Most of my freinds are not keen on children but my best freind is very heternormative, a few of them are actually! they have manly boyfriends who they want to get a house and have kids in :) and i love them for it, and i will be there whenever they need me.
But try as i might when the time comes i will not be able to relate. and thats my problem! breaks my heart but there you go.

i think you shouldnt say "im a woman now" , i think you should just explore and see where you end up. maybe the hrt will summon all the girl feelings inside you and you will explode into a girl and maybe not! everyone responds to this very differently - i just found that i very much connected with fem stuff and that my manerisms are more femme than andro - i have a bunch of male conditioning though, like completley useless stuff like thinking a girl is attracted to me because she is touching me even though i am not interested.
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Phoebe Smallshit - Thu, 16 Jun 2016 20:35:10 EST ID:LjO3v8GI No.398671 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398503
Yes!

No, but, yes!

it's so simple how you resolve this... get gender dysphoria! You don't have to actually, transition, just dive into a fair dose of that stuff, develop a taste for it, clear your head, and acquire gender dysphoria. Then, simply invoke willpower, a determination not to transition, not to complicate your life like that, to avoid it by any means necessary.

And so, that way, boom, you'll have the whole intolerable contradiction in your head dealt with!


Five Days Ago I Made a Thread on /QQ/ by Edwin Breffingfan - Sun, 22 May 2016 20:36:47 EST ID:k5jS+9yi No.398396 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hello. I posted this thread here: http://boards.420chan.org/qq/res/503820.php

In brief summary, I realized that I wanted to be with a MtF woman, and that no one else interested me. I went over why (or at least I tried to), and I talked about how it is really hard for me to find anyone that I really like. Some people chimed in; quite a few said that I was gay, and some were helpful.

I guess I'm bring this up here because I would like to know what you people think about what I wrote, and how you feel about it. I know that there is a lot of people here who hate chasers, but I don't consider myself one, because this is just how it worked out.

In short, any advice/comments are appreciated. I've been very lonely for a while and I kind of want to grow up and experience life with someone for once.
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Ghengis Dong - Sun, 12 Jun 2016 15:16:59 EST ID:6reN9DYJ No.398639 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398638
*Their

Now I look both stupid, and a bitch
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Charles Claywill - Sun, 12 Jun 2016 16:47:02 EST ID:7HeURo3t No.398640 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398638
that's what i mean by motivation; fetish or a different reason
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Charles Claywill - Sun, 12 Jun 2016 16:47:29 EST ID:7HeURo3t No.398641 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398638
that's what i mean by motivation; fetish could be just one. that's the point of my entire post
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Ghengis Dong - Sun, 12 Jun 2016 17:30:00 EST ID:6reN9DYJ No.398642 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398641
The OP literally says he doesn't experience sexual attraction to people unless he knows they are trans. That is the literal textbook definition of a fetish
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Lily !Fxvac6iUdI - Tue, 14 Jun 2016 09:26:09 EST ID:JkHhFo6t No.398656 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>398552
Thanks for reading that big wall of text, sorry that I wrote so much, haha. I generally fluctuate between optimism and pessimism--when I wrote that I was flying on a positive wind. I only stress the transitioning part so much because it worked for me, but I know it's not necessarily the key to everybody's problems. I mean it wasn't even the key to all of my problems either, in fact it definitely created some of its own problems along the way and wil continue to for a long time, but I just know that it gave me a bit of happiness that was missing in my life even if that happiness fluctuates quite a bit and I still often feel sad; but, really just made it so that looming, deteriorating feeling of despair left me and I could get on with my life.

I'm glad that your mother accepted you. The minute I hear someone mention their conservative family I think to stress that it is completely what they want, not what anyone else wants. But, you seem firm in your decision and the fact that your mother accepted you is more important than any of the other adjacent families opinion.

Honestly, my sexuality fluctuates a lot, too. I have an amazing girlfriend who has helped me immensely to keep grounded in my life and be positive along my transition and has really filled the void of longing for someone involved in my life. When we first started becoming involved, before I even started transitioning (and keep in mind she is 100% gay and is very sure about that), I really didn't have any libido whatsoever because I was so distraught about my dysphoria that I didn't want to be with anyone else but she just sort if fell into my life and it worked out. Once I started becoming happier during the whole 'honeymoon phase' or whatever you want to call it, I definitely felt my libido increase and was definitely attracted to her. But, after I started hormones and after we've been serious for quite a while, my sexuality and libido has started to change a lot. I've started being more attracted to guys than I ever used to, but overall my libido has decreased. Sometimes I will look at her and not even be sure if I'm attracted to her at all and she will be really into me and I hav…
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Hon gets butthurt about how a vagina didn't fix her, so she sets a fucking clinic on fire by Edward Passlefod - Tue, 31 May 2016 20:17:11 EST ID:jUZuFCZp No.398466 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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http://www.cknw.com/2016/05/24/contact-made-with-b-c-woman-suspected-of-setting-fire-at-montreal-transgender-surgery-clinic/
>hon gets pissed because of results of her SRS
>apparently they didn't help her enough
>suffers "societal pressure" because she looks like pic related
>decides to ruin the futures of all the younger trans girls in Canada
>fucking commits arson aimed at the people who tried to help
>meanwhile 20 year-old canadians who actually have a chance will have to wait because of her
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Sidney Nettinglidge - Sun, 05 Jun 2016 14:14:58 EST ID:PTGHW/fD No.398536 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Except for the hairline, hair length, and face wrinkles (younger), I look like her.

Since transition seWe don't talk to people we disagree with enough.ems impossible, especially after 8 years of hormones not doing enough, I think about killing myself all the time. I live as a guy still because I look ridiculous dressed as a woman.

But unlike her, I'm not going to take it out on others, only myself.
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Sidney Nettinglidge - Sun, 05 Jun 2016 14:16:24 EST ID:PTGHW/fD No.398537 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398536
I have no idea why my iPad pasted my clipboard in there like that. Oops. :/
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Eugene Dartcocke - Sun, 05 Jun 2016 23:17:02 EST ID:jUZuFCZp No.398542 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398534
Well I hope so. I would really like to see him get security, but trans people/trans healthcare providers are pretty far down the priority list, so I doubt it.
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John Geffinglore - Sun, 12 Jun 2016 00:50:34 EST ID:0fzorwlZ No.398631 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I kinda love how totally based hon trannies are

There's a chick here, totally fucking insane (literally, barking mad as in actually barking) who walks down the street topless with fake tits hanging out and a sign protesting the law against showing breasts in public. Worst smeared on makeup ala Buffalo Bill in Silence of the Lambs, barking crazy, thorn in the cops side it's kinda awesome.

That is all
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James Bivingwell - Mon, 13 Jun 2016 11:37:15 EST ID:jUZuFCZp No.398654 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398631
That's amazing. An embarrassment to our community, but hilarious.


Gotta go fast by Sidney Sacklespear - Fri, 10 Jun 2016 01:39:59 EST ID:NPLjfKoa No.398587 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Yesterday I found out a friend of a friend's parents spent $540,000 on her FFS, GRS, a boob job, and some other shit I guess because she wanted it, and they could. I don't know about hormones but I'm assuming she started them the same time she got all this done because there were no signs of hrt changing anything beforehand.

I've been transitioning for a year and a half, been presenting female for 6 months, and I've learned so much from the slow change, and grew so much as a person... Suddenly transforming into a completely different person... it'd break my brain and sounds like the worst way to transition.

I know this sounds a little elitist, and admittedly I'm just a little biased because I'd be happy to be rid of my college debt and have a little money for a wardrobe, and this one's family is throwing money around like who gives a fuck apparently. It just sounds so unnecessary and so rash. After this long I'm ok with how my body's coming along, and if I'm gonna change anything I'd rather wait until hrt moves enough fat around so I know what I'm working with. Doing it all at once just sounds terrible for one's mental health in the long run.
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Thomas Blankinbanks - Sat, 11 Jun 2016 18:32:47 EST ID:jUZuFCZp No.398621 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398589
Yeah, but you saw what she looked like beforehand
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Alice Gungerdock - Sun, 12 Jun 2016 13:32:59 EST ID:Clvwtn6d No.398635 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398587
This really just sounds like the good old "bitter hon" ramble, where you have to tell yourself that your path is better, even though it's clearly worse.

It's better to get it all done in one go, and be done with it in a year, than to waste year after year trying to scramble up enough money to progress your transition one slow step at a time.
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Graham Basslelock - Sun, 12 Jun 2016 22:57:34 EST ID:Clvwtn6d No.398646 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398643
Stop being such a socially retarded twat.

Yes, there's an objectivly better way to transition.
The absolute best is to start when you're like 5 or whatever, and then just get SRS when you're 16-18, or something like that.
After that, the younger the better, and the quicker you get done with your physical transition the better.

These are just simple facts, and I said the way OP is using her logic is the same as the bitter old hons do.
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Graham Basslelock - Mon, 13 Jun 2016 08:54:05 EST ID:Clvwtn6d No.398651 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398647
I told you to stop being socially retarded.

Is it not better to drink clean water, or get medical treatment early in an illness development?
Well, according to you, it can't be, because not everyone has the option to drink clean water or get medical treatment. So, then we should probably assume that drinking unclean water is just as good as drinking clean water, it's just two different options, but both are good.
Right?
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Graham Basslelock - Mon, 13 Jun 2016 11:44:20 EST ID:Clvwtn6d No.398655 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398652
We've never talked about "options", just which is better.
Retard.

nb


Transition in High School by Shit Siddlehall - Thu, 09 Jun 2016 22:58:24 EST ID:YNA/kacc No.398581 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Has anyone here socially transitioned in high school?

What is it like? were you accepted at first, or even at all? did you stealth, could you?
etc, any info or advice helps

The whole prospect of doing it is pretty terrifying, ngl, especially without supportive parents
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Polly Nicklehood - Sat, 11 Jun 2016 01:39:44 EST ID:Vp3OSw8x No.398615 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398581
start hrt asap

dont transition until you are done with hs
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Thomas Brookshaw - Sat, 11 Jun 2016 09:07:50 EST ID:9KnmQH5g No.398617 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i started hrt in my last year of HS, but i just hid it as best as i could until i could graduate. i think some people might have noticed but it wasn't a big deal. just hide your boobs as best as you can and keep up the boy facade, for your own sake.
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Thomas Blankinbanks - Sat, 11 Jun 2016 18:28:57 EST ID:jUZuFCZp No.398618 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398600
When parents were involved, yeah.
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Thomas Blankinbanks - Sat, 11 Jun 2016 18:35:59 EST ID:jUZuFCZp No.398622 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398607
I think you'll do fine. Public school will work ok, and you'll pass if you can nail your voice. Look up makeup, though. It'll help too.
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Archie Snodman - Sun, 12 Jun 2016 21:44:21 EST ID:/pJQvcDR No.398644 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398617
Damn I should have done this but I kept putting it off till I was almost 21.


Help me find the words by Charlotte Feggleridge - Wed, 08 Jun 2016 04:45:17 EST ID:Ea9MpNtU No.398554 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hi everyone,

Hope you are all having an evening colored with love~

I haven't been concerned with labels for several years now, as I've been working through my stuff. Assigned male, grew up with primogenitor privilege, upper middle class, white. Have always liked women, only recently become open to men, but in a long-distance committed relationship with a female-assigned person atm (it's actually quite wonderful, we are besties). But, since I was very little, I felt something wasn't quite at ease. I couldn't describe it, I didn't have the vocabulary.

When I started feeling sexual, I gained that vocabulary. I began touching my penis around 6 or 7 if memory serves me right. Soon after, I realized pornography was a thing. I started identifying with the ciswomen actors, their sensations and performed desires and expressions. Rather than being imprinted on me, it felt distinctly like a loosening, a coming-out-of-me. I felt like I finally found the "words" for my "language".

The weirdest part of the story comes in here. Since my biology was clearly not matching up with reality as I lived it, I began to desire lingerie. However, I could not ask for that. So, I stole some from my mother's closest. I was of course found out. The point to emphasize is that the erotic/expressive element was not in the act of thieving (I felt ashamed) or due to the fact that it was my mother's (I felt grossed out at the mere thought, to the point I washed the clothes repeatedly as a sort of ritual purification). It was simply the only way I felt I could access...femininity.

I also used pillows, stuffed animals, anything that looked boob-shaped to be honest, to stuff under my shirt to create the illusion of cleavage.

This became a sort of private world for myself. I was horrified at the thought of sharing this with anyone; I couldn't imagine anyone would accept me.

When I got to college, I finally had my own mailbox. Finally, I could explore better options! When I ordered my first bra, it was a complete misfit. Online shopping is shitty. But those first breast forms...nothing made me feel more human. I became hooked...I ordered so much lingerie, I couldn't really use it all. After class, I shut myself in my room, blinds closed, blasted my music and dressed to kill. But it was just me. I felt, in my own way, sort of trapped. It didn't help that I was placed in the all male hall...
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Eugene Wenninghick - Thu, 09 Jun 2016 16:17:34 EST ID:S972W4ym No.398577 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>This is not violent.

Ofc I believe Op made the mistake of using that word not literally lol.

>its not like we are pointing and laughing at them, its like they have more guts to go out and be themselves while so many people are afraid of the world and what people think of them.

I feel like I missed a leap here lol. Also you said you were laughing, haha. You also said because it's such a male reflection on how they view women as the reason, they almost seem contradictory but I guess they aren't necessarily, though saying it's not like we're laughing when you said you were before is a bit contradictory =P I'm not sure if I think it's totally what you said about it being a male reflection, as the reason it's funny, at least not for most people, just that it's an exaggeration maybe. You may be able to say "that takes guts" seriously, but, actually possibly very related, you regard it in a certain way, it takes guts because everyone thinks you look ridiculous, youuu might even use the word pervert haha, I think you have before or something similar when you were laying into people with sexual motives for transitioning and then them saying they're the same/trans because it's so degrading to women or something? Idk. maybe I'm trying to connect too many things. Also cross dresser does not necessarily = drag queen in lots of ways potentially, though again I'm sure there can be overlap and stuff whatever I'm losing energy lol circling on this less than important point.

>thanks i knew you'd like that.
;P it's the kinda thing that leads to what I just said^ I thought I remembered you doing lol
If I'm not mistaken I remember another thing too. E'rbody knows about how trustworthy backstories are, not that I'm saying I don't believe you.

> i have empathy for OP. i understand what they are going through and you should too.
this is only WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING THE WHOLE TIME haha
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Eugene Wenninghick - Thu, 09 Jun 2016 16:18:05 EST ID:S972W4ym No.398578 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>But there is a reason why OP has only replied to me and its not just because what i write is a little easier to read
I don't care lol, do you know how many massive posts I've made that got no response and before anyone gave me any kinds of compliments on those messes? Or people being like wtf or you're crazy lol. Since before you came back lol. And I realize that like no response is what will likely happen, I use this forum like a bit of a diary I guess? Or sometimes as like a sounding board/to see if anyone criticizes it, so that I may come to a better conclusion. It's a bit rude to the OP's of the threads it happens on but I end up talking about myself and own experiences probably because I don't have a lot of places I feel I can, a place to write freely due to anonymity, but still be able to get feedback too sometimes, and just to get things I'm thinking about out of my head, they always seem like less of a big deal once I've done that, like I can move on from it. As a sounding board, even if it isn't relevant to the OP other people might read it and reply, again, it is kinda rude really so there's that. But I understand I wasn't poking him to get a reaction lol. And I'm not posting solely for attention either(not saying you are), or to try to tell people what to do in their life(not that you claim to be doing exactly that either, I'm eh about your "methods" though). Just typing things out can be a way to think through things as well for me, more concretely or in different ways than normal, things can take on different lights when actually typed out.

I'm a fan of being devil's advocate, Hi ^_^ hahaha
Though usually still in a direction. And you too no doubt, more on this later.

There are still different ways you can do that, or maybe it depends on what you really think too, how and when it comes out. I don't just automatically approve of everything or sugarcoat things, I try to avoid platitudes, I try to be real and realistic, I just think a lot of things don't really matter that much, to certain extents, how things go in reality considered or included. I didn't just say "yay third gender!" I said fuck labels lol. But then also do what you want.

Also to be clear here, I didn't say they weren't a cross dresser, I didn't say they were a woman or should consider themselves one or should transition, I was using "he" in my last post. They didn't even ask if they should transition, though I did get into because I'm sure it's a question(as did you), and all I said to everything is you can do what you want, you don't need justification or validation. I'm not even saying I don't see all the potential sexual motives behind stuff. I just don't care lol.

And I guess finally, I think we differ on methods. I don't think I don't have an agenda, I'd say it's pretty clear, I want everyone to feel happy and okay and not gross or suffer, including myself of course yes ;)
You say you do it so they can see how they feel by how they react
I think that if they truly feel safe to explore or come to any type of conclusion without getting someone being shitty about it, then they might get further than having to react defensively and go back to keeping their actual thoughts in their head for fear of criticism, or actually maybe can just stop trying to "figure something out" because you don't need validation for what you do(you agree with that I think, though maybe only on principle). The more you bury or fight or wrangle with something the bigger and heavier it becomes and seems, talking about mental things.

Maybe it depends on the person with how they react to criticism.
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Eugene Wenninghick - Thu, 09 Jun 2016 16:28:05 EST ID:S972W4ym No.398579 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398578
>I'm not even saying I don't see all the potential sexual motives behind stuff. I just don't care lol.
and I think a point that sometimes I feel like I'm the only one that is willing to make, is how many people that were like this or had sexual motives or "agp" etc that did transitioned to some sort of success or another, and you always imply they will regret it or shoudn't, and maybe it's better to have open conversation to help them nottt go too far if it really won't help them, like getting srs for example. I've been around long enough to catch quite a few people being very open about exactly what they went through. I see less of it now, though maybe the board is just slower or whatever. Or maybe it's the point I feel like I have to be devil's advocate for when you post. Or any "pathology" that you don't "approve" of lol. Though you might still say you're just saying that to get a reaction so they can know themselves lol, but ehhh it's what you think =P d
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Wesley Crondlebet - Fri, 10 Jun 2016 09:40:55 EST ID:LXGHIK9m No.398595 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398585
Omg so I didn't see the part above this post and replied to your last part first which is below, a post thinking you just posted you last post, I guess I'll just reply out of order, replying to the first part at the bottom. I didn't use as many quotes in the first section because I thought it was a shorter reply.

Don't goooo I'm sure I'll be posting much less after that too hah it's like some kind of cycle and that was rather draining, but maybe good it happened? For myself too I mean ofc

Also by saying "I'm not even saying I don't see" basically means that I do see the potential sexual motives when people post, and I say potential to be nice sometimes depending on the case lol, though I wasn't really aware that there was an online PUA community dedicated to transwomen, 'cept I do remember you mentioning something out there about how to pick up transwomen, and I didn't necessarily know people might transition solelyyyy to pick up transwomen, though I know there can be a lot of crossover of "chasers" that like transition or turn out to be trans in some way at least transition lol and still are after transgirls afterward too etc etc.

"I don't think I don't have an agenda" again a double negative meaning I am aware I have a way I tend to try to influence things, etc "an agenda" though I must say I think you're I laugh when I see you're agenda kinda hurt my feelings or something(like what warranted that compared to any other post by anyone ever? probably because I was being a bit shitty right), though I feel like I didn't realize it until after I posted, when I was tired and beat down feeling anyway later last night, also I thought of something funny relating to what we were talking about, "oh so you're laughing behind my back huh!?!?" =P And I'm sorry if I was like harsh or shitty to you, idk, blehh, I don't want people to feel bad.

Yeah we both went into it even though they supposedly didn't ask lol, about transition.

At the end of the dayyy
I don't feel good today lol. I just woke up. At least partially because I've been slacking. I also realized I'd been feeling less dysphoric I guess to some it up because I've been mostly staying in my little safe nature paradise with only limited interaction that has gone well, I would realize it all much more really if/when I go back to havng to get ready and go out and do a job everyday potentially interacting with customers and stuff, though it mostly goes well then too, but even when it's going well I scrutinize myself more, see how other people look, etc and then god forbid someone does misgender me. Unrelated though I guess.

But I wasn't trying to just give a thumbs up, just a no one cares and you can do what you want, you don't need validation from us, though maybe that comes across as closer to validation to some people you think? Idk. I agree though they need to come to that decision and stuff.
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Archie Pittfield - Fri, 10 Jun 2016 14:50:46 EST ID:YycAq8/G No.398605 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398584
wish i knew you IRL because you Get It

>I still stand by my earlier "you are a crossdresser" statement youre just modern crossdresser where hormones are the new breast forms.

after being here and tumblr for 9 years now.... and having read the amount of shitposts you can imagine (or not), im gonna agree with this based on the OPs words and what he has said.

while i find crossdressing a bit problematic, for the stated reasons, i dont think its completely wrong - but i just wish that people were more accepting of themselves in this way. yes you are a crossdressor and you want breasts - okay so grow some breasts with eostrogen for a year or two or go get implants or whatever but like you said, you are not like us. you collect lingerie? that is how to connect to womanhood and its like... such a small and for the most part non-existent aspect of womanhood. you think our lives are filled with this immense and deep level of sexuality because of the internet and its just... not real at all im sorry.

we have freinds, go to school, work, out to parties, see our partners, celebrate life and live through hell; as women. and we have sex, and some of us a really into that! some of us are very attractive and can make allot of money online using their trans-status to sell clips - but they too - will get on with life when they can or need to. they probably live closer to normal lives even because they pass so well!


Trans people can't get pregnant by Jarvis Chuvingwog - Fri, 03 Jun 2016 09:09:48 EST ID:IoTNRtsq No.398504 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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But will it one day be possible?
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Fanny Wibblewedge - Sat, 04 Jun 2016 02:02:17 EST ID:xLrjuslx No.398516 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398514
Either that or we all die and the new generation of young pre puberty transitioners can birth children without bone surgery.
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Priscilla Pibbershit - Sat, 04 Jun 2016 12:40:51 EST ID:jUZuFCZp No.398525 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398505
> even though some of the technology is already there, they will focus completely on cis women who cannot get pregnant for a good 30-40 years before ever testing it on trans people
This is so true I want to punch someone
> basically because there are more cis people on the planet than trans and we're a minor group who is often overlooked
There are as many trans people in America as Rhode Islanders. Trans healthcare is a travesty.
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Isabella Murdville - Mon, 06 Jun 2016 15:55:31 EST ID:w7ndXbSD No.398545 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398525
Even so, western women are so fucking finicky about having children, and about gender-peeves in general, and the homos are also so touchy about their rights, particularly about ones about things relating to children, that there is no fucking excuse for not earnestly working out all the medical details of research into pregnancy for genetic males. There's allegedly so damn many of those gays that even if a mono-percentage was interested in pregnancy, it would be way bigger than the current smokescreen they parade around for their "rights".
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Emma Lightham - Tue, 07 Jun 2016 11:27:14 EST ID:1trzOojR No.398549 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398545

In a scientific sense, even ignoring the whole trans/gay issue it would be at least 15 years after several people have had the procedure before even thinking about genetic male candidates. They'd need to work out any kinks and to know the reasons why certain problems might occur before they could work it out with genetic males, as they will most likely have more complications.

not to mention the fucking moral debate about it.
Like giving cis women the chance to give birth will have no problems, but say there was a surgery that could give genetic males the chance to give birth. I'm sure there will be thousands of people complaining about how it goes against nature, religious groups will probably complain, and even if the mention of trans women is brought up I imagine a large amount of the "against nature" group will have some transphobic people in it and will find an excuse that they shouldn't get given the chance.
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Jenny Druvingson - Tue, 07 Jun 2016 13:30:50 EST ID:w7ndXbSD No.398551 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398549
Yeah, but they ought to be quadruply underscored as idiots, nature is getting steamrolled, and construing the prospect of male pregnancy as some mystical demon is perverse.

What's a real, concrete threat is surrogacy, which is due to spiral to extremes, hand in hand with non-binary families, and designer babies - in every sense of the word conceivable. But people won't oppose it because they're puppets thoroughly reeled in to facilitate that kind of thing.


Is it really a bad thing to think that transsexuality shouldn't be celebrated or hailed? by princesa_cuntington - Wed, 18 May 2016 00:50:56 EST ID:6y+sBMUF No.398321 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I hate that trans folks these days celebrate it. I don't see what's to be proud of. I only see it as a mistake that should be corrected via transitioning.

I can't really see how this is a negative thing to say, because I'm not saying that it's *bad* to be trans but that it's not good and that it should be something we fix and move on.

It's why I wanna go stealth and never, ever mention transness again once my surgeries are all done.
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Oliver Pirryman - Sun, 22 May 2016 03:43:58 EST ID:ikKOO2ZV No.398390 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>398361
haha, enjoy your sheltered life.
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Albert Bishham - Sun, 22 May 2016 17:09:08 EST ID:H30/80Up No.398395 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398321

well like the awareness HAS to be there. the lack of awareness is why so many of us waited until after 20. so if some cool normal guys/ girls are comfortable being out, great. as long as their purpose is (1) acceptance of the necessity of transition and (2) to show that we can be just normal people (which means we can be insane/ assholes/ fags, just like any other group)

I'm done with everything and hardly think about or talk about transition. I come back here and some other boards infrequently, just to see what's going on. I don't identify as a trans woman, I don't tell people I'm trans, and thankfully I don't think anyone can tell. I'm happy again, like I haven't been in many years. I'm just living a normal life as a normal person.

I'm glad that there were people who showed me that you can successfully transition, even if I'm not going to post pictures and be public/ explicit about my past. Transitioning sucked, being trans is not something I'd celebrate, but I'd champion the availability of transition as an option for those who need it.
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Jarvis Fenderforth - Mon, 23 May 2016 02:56:34 EST ID:SsGHaSAG No.398401 Ignore Report Quick Reply
on one hand i dont care about labels and judgments; however, that leads inevitably to "why are you a woman" and "what is a woman." i am not about to legitimize my trans feelings to strangers and family every fucking day. i just want to live. those feelings they are there and they're slowly always killing me. transition is the cure. theres this song by ariel pink "menopause man," its a relief. it has a line "you know youre trying too hard // trying too hard to be what you already are." im only strong because i am a strong person and know what i am and have always known, regardless of the sway over my emotions that hormones and being inherently batshit and trans creates. i dont want to go stealth; i dont want to pass for anyone but me. i only care if im confident in me. you cant please everyone; you shouldnt please people, you should just pass. it isnt as hard as you make it in your mind, so fuck what people think.

that said, really i prefer being more passable always because i do not want to have the discussion. how often do men and women who are cis have to explain and rationalize their peculiarities and be judged harshly for their expression of gender? usually you have be a dyke or a fag and then get ridiculed, and even then those people dont salt their own wounds over feeling out of place with dysphoria. most people dont live their crazy lives around one fucking issue. so why do i have to?

why do i have to worry about passing that much? just leave me alone. im a eunuch. a chemical nightmare already. i wouldnt have done this to myself if i didnt want it so badly id hurt this much to be happy. im unlovable and dont love anyone. i am basically asexual, asocial, and a mess. so id like to live without these constant arguments and passive aggressive quips.

i dont believe i am a real woman because no one treats me as one and never will. i wont treat myself like that either, ill let you oppress me just do it and let me laugh externally and cry inside. if it makes it quicker, ill enable them. i dont care about gender. i will break down if i have to justify anymore. i know that denial like this is just a more advanced form of repression that comes with resenting p…
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Jack Monkinfield - Tue, 24 May 2016 14:17:46 EST ID:isvwVh3x No.398418 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398390
and you yours, if you can get your head outta your ass long enough.
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Isabella Murdville - Mon, 06 Jun 2016 16:09:10 EST ID:w7ndXbSD No.398547 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398321
Yeah, it's small minded.

It should be celebrated.

It should be celebrated for the things it can do.

It should be celebrated for it's potential to open up gays' minds beyond hypersexual insularism, and for the potential for encouraging feminists to reconsider misandry.

It should be celebrated for being able to act as a disruptor of misogyny, fouling up bigots planned grooming attempts of prospects that turn out to be trans.

It should be celebrated as very rich source of ideas about andro-norms that turn out to be surprisingly of interest to women, which is a very big deal in a world which, let's face it, is hellbent on expanding women's actions into what used to be male roles.


Totally based trans blows out non passing fetishists by Fuck Dackledock - Tue, 26 Apr 2016 20:24:26 EST ID:h0Id+G93 No.398121 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/brooklyn-fink-ubc-pride-flag-1.3553719
>burned a rainbow LGBT pride flag at her university to protest "offensive" symbol
>"Ten, 12 years ago I was just a tall woman and nobody thought anything of it"
>"Because these gender nonconformers are being so loud and proud, everybody looks and they can see oh, that tall woman with a deep voice, maybe she's a dude."
>Trans "advocacy" group leader throws her under bus
>Threatened with explusion from university, for-profit unis don't like risky politics
>Charged with (laughable) crime by cops for trolling the gays on campus
>Heavy hand of police and state get involved

Nobody has ever gone to jail for burning the Canadian flag, hope to god she doesn't get forced to plead out and instead a constitutional lawyer takes this case pro bono and she becomes the Trans superhero and campus Tumblrina politics final solution.
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James Fickleleg - Mon, 30 May 2016 03:22:36 EST ID:GPZ84Rht No.398462 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398121
This woman is the hero trans' need. Fuck these tumblrkids
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Molly Sacklefuck - Tue, 31 May 2016 03:59:11 EST ID:Clvwtn6d No.398464 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398121
It's fucking retarded.

Tumblrinas, ans cis people pretending to be trans for attention, and heavily protected by everything. While actual trans people, who speak up about these appropriating cis people, get harassed, punished, and socially excluded from everything.
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Cedric Handersot - Tue, 31 May 2016 05:43:11 EST ID:YycAq8/G No.398465 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398464
we both know you are just excluding yourself dear - ive met people who say stuff like this, you think youre being actively excluded for some reason when its just you not putting in any effort to be apart of a social group or community.
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Walter Sumblefield - Wed, 01 Jun 2016 06:26:49 EST ID:Clvwtn6d No.398474 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398465
Been banned from most "trans" places on the internet, for not catering to cissies pretending to be trans.
The trans community in my city has a leader who is "non-binary", and goes by "they/them", and has done nothing to transition.

Most of the interviews and such are done of tumblrinas, who has not done any transition, but still claim to be trans, and will say nidicolous things just to seem oppressed and super trans.
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Samuel Sunderpag - Wed, 01 Jun 2016 21:51:27 EST ID:uvyZCKx2 No.398484 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398474
We dem bois


Starting HRT dosage by Phoebe Saffingsatch - Wed, 25 May 2016 20:15:15 EST ID:ctIrC5+Q No.398432 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I just had my first appointment with my endo today, and he prescribed me 25mg spiro and 1mg estradiol daily. I didn't really check until I got home, and now that I'm reading around this seems really, really low. He did say that he likes to start people off with a smaller dose, but it just seemed way too low.

Can anyone give any input on this?
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Phoebe Saffingsatch - Wed, 25 May 2016 20:22:11 EST ID:ctIrC5+Q No.398434 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398433
Well, he did say to call back in three months and he'd up the dosage, and I've got an appointment in 6 months to get my blood work done, and I'm assuming he's going to up the dosage then, as well. But OK, that is quite reassuring. Thanks for the info!
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Cyril Fezzlebadging - Wed, 25 May 2016 23:22:48 EST ID:oZOYyLaB No.398435 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398434

Ive read of doctors starting patients off on low doses like that just to be safe, it seems to be a pretty common thing. Nothing to worry about. :) enjoy your 'mones! I miss mine.
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Archie Lightwill - Thu, 26 May 2016 04:47:34 EST ID:inKOXpwd No.398438 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398432
That is indeed very, very low. I have a doctor who starts patients with 100mg. She works her way up to 200mg following blood work. I would suggest you find another doctor.
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Phoebe Saffingsatch - Thu, 26 May 2016 15:26:47 EST ID:ctIrC5+Q No.398442 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>398438
Yeah I called today to ask about the dosage, but the nurse wasn't in so I left a voicemail. They should be getting back to me tomorrow, though.

If they are just starting me out on a low dose, and they'll increase it to a normal level down the road, that's fine with me. I just want to know what the plan there is, haha.


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