/cd/ Transgender Discussion
Wellp I've spent many years anguishing over my transness and in the last 6months I've come to accept it's time to start fixing myself. I can't wait a year before I see a shrink. I'm ready to start self medicating on a low dose. How do I order / obtain spiro/ estrofem / other oral equivalents without a prescription in Ontario ? Money isn't an issue and I'd even be willing to pay another trans woman in Toronto to order mine when she gets hers
www.qhi.co.ukAccording to Canadian law Canadian citizens are not permitted to have hormones without prescription. However resident aliens, and visitors are. It was mentioned in a thread here.
>>369949That's bullshit, I had access to hormones through a doctor at a non profit and I'm a canadian citizen.
>>369962Sherbourne health? They told me it's a wait of a year or more.
Hi, /cd/!Am i a cute girl? I'm using hormones to 10 months.:3
New month, new pictures? :)
>>366849ya, u r cute grill keep it up :3
>>366849>>366857>>366860is it really such a bother to flip your pictureyou don't even have to open paint since even the default windows picture browser can do this
>>366849This thread still exists, wow.I really miss my little waifu :(That's was fast/short, but was wonderful :'D
I want to find an MtF transgirl for a long distance relationship. I'm a 21 year old college student on the east coast. I want to "be there" for a transgirl and contribute to her happiness by making her feel loved. I really don't want anything in return and wouldn't want sex till much later in the relationship and wouldn't ever want to do anything with her penis. I'd pretty much just want to talk/skype a lot, vidya if we felt like it, watch movies/shows/animes together, etc. Eventually if things went very well I'd want to meet IRL and move to be together.I want to do this because I feel that a transgirl would be a good fit for me.Where and how would I go about doing this?Someone suggested skype threads on another chan to me but there don't seem to be any transgirls posting in those.
>>369965Nope, not him. I don't get obsessive over girls. I'm not sure how I came across obsessive since if anything I'm apathetic.
>>369970Is it wrong of me as an MtF to want to date other MtFs? Albeit this might just be me trying to stay in my comfort zone type-of-thing, and I shouldn't be afraid to branch out? Though I'm not really turned on by most guys (especially all the dudebros, white trash, and hicks around here), and too envious/awestruck/thus-awkwardly-nervous around other girls.
i will be your friend...i can't guarentee i'll fall in love with you. but i'm lonely and it would be nice to just have someone to talk to...... if you posted your contact information i would be your friend :]pic related, on of my favorite animes
>>369978wow, you're a mtf and you want to date a mtf? have you met yourself? we are all batshit insane, doubling the batshitinsanity will overflow and explode, it doesnt sound like a pretty experience.maybe you should just keep chasing instead of pretending to be mtf to get mtfs... thats gross.
How bad is itI HAVE TO KNOWI have a 17 1/2 inch shoulders26 in waist and last i checked 38 inch hips
Can anyone tell me what are good levels of estrogen and testosterone while on HRT (mtf)? It would be really convenient to get them in a couple of different units, as I do not know what units they use in my blood test. My situation is I live in Northern Europe, and I'm covered by national health care. The down side is that the treatment is rather conservative and the people working with trans patients sometimes seem downright uninformed. I suspect I'm getting a low dose of estrogen, but I need some numbers to fight my endo. I need to call to get the results in a few days and that might be my only chance of voicing my concern. I already did talk about dosing to the endo a couple of weeks ago, but she just said that they won't give higher doses to anyone. My next endo appointment is one year from now (I'm six months into HRT and this was my second appointment), so this is my best change of actually having a say, if the estrogen levels really are too low.Pic unrelated but pretty.
>>369517Ok, I think 100µg is usually too little, when I was at those I ended up at 250pmol/l, though I think it was taken just a bit after 48 hours (so it was probably slightly higher otherwise). I think the standard for patches is more like 150-200µg, I'm not sure though, my endo used 200µg as the standard dose (I mean, that was the first dose I got on, so that's probably standard).
OP again.I started with 37.5µg / 24h patches, upped to 75µg after 2 months, and again to 100 a couple of weeks ago. Based on everything I've found online that indeed seems low. Some regimens recommend 100µg transdermal in combination with a low-normal dose of oral estrogen, so the dose really worries me. I think the standard here for oral forms is 4mg daily, which seems to be lowish, but not as low as the transdermal dose. Then again I'm under the impression that the goal here is to go just above the lower limits for cis female levels. They repeat "higher doses don't make feminization any better" like a mantra, and the endo (I wouldn't say my endo, 'cause I see whoever is available, not a single doctor) even stated that going higher would just result in the estrogen being converted into testosterone. When I said I was concerned about my dose she just said that other countries use even lower doses. I wouldn't blame them though, they're just normal endocrinologists whose main area of work is entirely different and just receive trans patients because they happen to work in a specific hospital. It's just frustrating. Talking to them is like having a conversation with written material. They repeat the same things over and over and don't give any room for personal treatment plans.
OP bumping for a second opinion or anything related.
>>369523You could try to point out to them that treating menopause women and trans women is different, and different dosages are needed... If they weren't aware of that.
>>369523>I think the standard here for oral forms is 4mg daily, which seems to be lowish4mg daily is only lowish among self medders. It's the standard prescribed dose for transwomen. Doses for postmenopausal women are 1-2mg/d.
>I think the standard here for oral forms is 4mg daily, which seems to be lowish
Where do I get girly clothes that don't look like piss and are also pretty cheap? I go to clothing stores and shit's like 50 dollars for one pair of jeans or even just a shirt. It's ridiculous.
Its me again, Twice Like seems AMAZING and I will definitely order from there in the future. The only problem is that they don't sell lingerie (panties, bras, sexy wear etc). Does anyone know of a similar website that sells these things for cheap and discreetly?
>>369877Hnnghh, how do you stand epilating? Especially something sensitive like the armpits?And I should at least use up the rest of these wax strips that I have...
>>369936I basically go in tiny little patches. I move against the grain of my hair, and stop every time I grab enough that I can barely stand the pain. I pause for maybe 1-2 seconds and keep going, just enough time to get past the most intense pain but long before it totally goes away. Building up a rhythm like this desensitizes me to the pain and allows me to continually epilate.The first time is an absolute nightmare though. And good fucking luck on your bikini line or butt area, I managed to get every part of my body epilated except those areas and my stomach before I started shaving more.
>>369936I also epilate my armpits and I've developed a technique that doesn't really hurt at all. I noticed that if I keep the epilator in an upright position (perpendicular to skin) it grabs a whole lot of hair and that hurts a lot. But when I epilate with the epilator at a 45 degree angle or a bit lower, it only grabs a few hairs at a time, and doesn't hurt much at all. This of course leaves shorter hairs that the machine is unable to grab in the latter position, but I'll just finish epilating with the machine upright to grab the last, short hairs. Going slow and using this technique epilating armpits is pretty easy and I think the overall suffering is less than with shaving since when the hair grows back it's smooth unlike the spiky stubble shaving causes.On the other hand I've given up epilating my legs because of the horrible ingrowns I get. They're not as bad since I started HRT, but I nevertheless decided to give the skin some time to heal.
>>369979yeah ingrowns are SUCH a ridiculous freakin painbut thats kinda why i been a little tentative to try plucking or epilating my underarms, you never have problems with getting ingrowns there?
>>369901Also, holy shit that macro is amazing.
>>369935If you're an edgy 14 year old atheist, sure.
>>369938I mean I had me a giggle, m8
>>369938Calm your tits
I'm on hormones now, getting lumps under my nipples and skin getting smoother and everything but I know it doesn't affect bones, so what do I do for my no hips?
>lose as much weight as possible until your waist fat is GONE>do lower body exercises like weighted squats and side planks etc etc to build up muscle >eat more calories to increase amount of fat and muscle in the lower body Tiem to get working nigga
>lose as much weight as possible until your waist fat is GONE>do lower body exercises like weighted squats and side planks etc etc to build up muscle >eat more calories to increase amount of fat and muscle in the lower body
>>369786I actually pass flawlessly when I cross dress, I have a really feminine body, and have had both compliments and insults for it. Some girls like it, some don't. Some guys like it, some don't.the only issue for me is baldness and massive body hair. I'm 5'11 so I can pass in norway, and I'm white, and green eyed, and I've always kinda enjoyed my height.people don't fuck with people taller than them even if they're stronger.
>>369828the only issue for me is baldnessex-half-bald-chick and knowing some bald girls hereyou can just wear a wig even if people learn about it they'll probably just feel sorry >and massive body hair.lazers
>and massive body hair.
So my pre-hrt numbers are:18in shoulders31in waist (I don't have much of a waist yet though and probably won't ever until I can lose my oblique muscles)38in hips (with bubble butt though)Do you think I can hit a fairly "ok" female range if I lost .5-1in from my shoulders due to muscle loss and let hrt work on my hips and waist. Also, eventually when my fat is distributed I plan on losing some wait and toning up and trying to define my waist more.
>>369916I have similar shoulders too but I can't really imagine how I can loose much like I know where the bones are and I only heard that loosing muscle can lead to a different posture which makes the shoulders look less broad but bones won't change with hrt.
So it looks like for the first time it looks like I'm going to get my stuff together.You know finally getting a job that I can keep, not being looser pot head. Moving out of dads house, transitioning. Having a car paying my bills.I have one question I want to do stealth you know taking the 'mones and presenting as a man until the appropriate time in my life. I finally have the university track down so things are looking up.Are there any responsible girls out there you know with a good job or even a career?
lol the 99% doesn't have an arts degree I'm sorry.
lol the 99% aren't transgendered either.
>>369951im a painter.i do what i can to get by with no guarantee of money coming in, but eh.Used to work as an IT support trainer but people figured out i was trans and life was just hell after that, people were urging me to use the mens/disabled toilets, people would purposely attach male stereotypes to me.So i just paint and hang with kewl peeps :)
>>369961I read it as 99% of 25 years old with a fine art degree. Because 99% isn't unemployed either.Anyway, I'm still in college with random jobs during holidays. I did get my shit together and perform above average now. Going to be a doctor in a few years.
>>369951How well do TG people fare in a technical medical field? A lot of discrimination there? I think it's perfect because it's something I can afford at a local CC instead of going to a 4 year university. The pay is enough for me and it's something I could see myself enjoying I think.
can alcohol interfere with spiro?
An older man wants to be my sugar daddy. Should I go with it and get some $_$ for clothes and maybe electrolysis?I prefer women.
Yes. Obviously. Milk the fucker dry. Live up to your stereotype.
I mean what the fuck.This is why we got no respect and I get shit from everyone i know about this subject.
>>369955This subject? Is there a noble way to get money from a man? lol
>>369966marry him, whats his is yours and whats yours is his.
>>369931Hes just another case of a sleazy man, trying to find a desperate and loyal enough girl, to claim as his sugar baby. To take advantage of, and use as he pleases.
Is it true that injecting estrogen gives better feminization than sublingual estrogen?Does anyone want to edit this picture so the text is trap related? Hahaha.
OP here again.Got my injectable estrogen coming in the mail, I have some more questions though.Is it ok for me to start my first injection at the time I would have taken my next estrogen pill, or do I have to wait longer without the pills before starting the injections?Can I inject my doses every week, instead of every two weeks?I'm taking 4mg estrofem siblingually per day right now, what dose should I try of the injectable estrogen?
>>369764no clue2. yes, i do this.3. 10mg/week til you get bloods. Theres a very real risk of elevated prolactin levels and prolactinoma with injections vs orals.
>>369769>>3. 10mg/week til you get bloods.Do you have a source on that?My dose (from a doc) is .05mg/week, and I'm wondering if that's really low or what...
>>369940Its based on liter. You were probably perscribed .5ml of 20mg per week. If not, than thats extremely low and will do nothing. If I am right, than check your fucking labels jeezus.
>>369940just meant 10mg/week is the average dose. when people are self medding estrofem we tell them 4mg/day 'Cause it's the average dose and has the best chance of being right. But only bloodworks will tell you for sure. That dose could be low or just right. Whats your E level at?I cant find the old transhealth canada with all the recommended doses for physicians in it anymore. If someone has that post it that'd be great :o
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