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Question About Doctor and AAs by Charles Gallywater - Thu, 18 May 2017 23:27:19 EST ID:2k54T+z6 No.403272 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So I went to the doctor for prescriptions today (non-transition related). And I was wondering what AA's there were out there besides Spironolactone. Spiro sort of sucks at what it's supposed to do. I'm in the US and Cypro is unavailable here so I was wondering what I could get besides Spiro?

Also I was wondering if I could ask my regular doctor for a prescription of Estrodiol and an AA?
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Charles Gallywater - Fri, 19 May 2017 15:33:45 EST ID:2k54T+z6 No.403278 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Albert Cliblinghut - Fri, 19 May 2017 19:30:53 EST ID:2IbZEiEJ No.403280 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Bicalutamide.
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Phyllis Fendlewill - Fri, 19 May 2017 19:50:06 EST ID:W33OzG35 No.403281 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>403272

shouldnt your doctor know this? please dont tell me your doctor was like "i have no idea about other anti-androgens, but if you go ask /cd/ they can tell you".

In all seriousness though, why dont you like spiro? have your blood tests come back with high testosterone or something?

i did a google and came up with Nilutamide and Bicalutamide, but just so you know, i dont know about their usage for mtf HRT, so please do your research, if you do get either one of those make sure to read the pamplet specificity the side effects part.

now obviously if you're self medding and your dr is dr inhouse you're pretty much stuck with what you've got or else they would sell them under the anti-androgen banner.

But again i have no idea about their usage in mtf hrt or how effective they are and if they are any more or any less effective. The reason why spiro is so good is because you can use it longer than other anti-androgens without liver problems, unlike cypro.

anyway with all that said, here are some wikipedia links.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicalutamide
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nilutamide
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Matilda Blonkinwerk - Fri, 19 May 2017 19:54:23 EST ID:DvUsqYXm No.403282 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>403280
Can you tell me what bicalumatide is like. I hate spironolactone because it makes me piss too much and it dries me out.

>>403281
I didn't ask my doctor about it yet.
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Hamilton Bardshaw - Sat, 20 May 2017 06:51:27 EST ID:2IbZEiEJ No.403295 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>403282
>Can you tell me what bicalumatide is like.
I'm personally on both spiro and bica at the moment so I can't give you an unbiased perspective. Just use a search engine to find out what people have to say.
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Fuck Fuckingfuck - Sat, 20 May 2017 20:58:05 EST ID:T/ksnvB6 No.403299 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>403295
How is being on both as to say only being on Spironolactone.
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Samuel Shittingfoot - Sat, 20 May 2017 21:25:42 EST ID:2IbZEiEJ No.403300 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>403299
I feel like it helps. I reduced my spiro dose after going on bica. I've been on it for about 6 months I feel like it seems to have slowed by body hair growth. I usually dry orgasm nowadays whereas before with spiro I used to have a little bit of cum, so I take that as a good sign. I also started sublingualing my estrogen around the time I got on bica, so that might have had an effect too. My libido seems to be down more than before, I feel like. Reason I started bica was because my testosterone was still above female range (around low end of male range) after being on 200 mg/day of spiro.
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Fuck Fuckingfuck - Sat, 20 May 2017 23:34:36 EST ID:T/ksnvB6 No.403301 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>403300
I was wondering because bicalumatide is a chemotherapy drug and anti-androgynen.
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Samuel Shittingfoot - Sun, 21 May 2017 05:07:05 EST ID:2IbZEiEJ No.403302 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>403301
It's a chemotherapy drug in the case of testicular cancer because of its antiandrogen activity. Testicular cancer cells sometimes rely on testosterone to grow, so you can use bicalutamide to suppress that. But sometimes the cancer cells will mutate and continue growing even without testosterone, in which case other things like orchiectomy are the next option. Something like that anyway.
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George Greenridge - Sun, 21 May 2017 19:37:09 EST ID:h9DuSwl0 No.403308 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>403302
I only mentioned that because my doctor may say something about it being a chemodrug and my not prescribe it.
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Charles Gaddlefoot - Sun, 21 May 2017 20:23:33 EST ID:2IbZEiEJ No.403309 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>403308
Supposedly some doctors people prescribe it for transition nowadays. I don't know first hand because I selfmed. But maybe you can find some scientific/medical studies about it being used for transwomen and show them to your doctor. Also if you can't find any with bicalutamide you can try to find some for nilutamideand/or flutamide, two similar drugs that were used before bicalutamide was created.
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Fanny Shakeman - Sun, 21 May 2017 21:10:06 EST ID:CbslsIye No.403310 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>403309
I'm asking because I hear that it's way more effective than spironolactone.
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Lillian Drimmlewet - Sun, 21 May 2017 22:01:37 EST ID:h9DuSwl0 No.403311 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>403309
>But maybe you can find some scientific/medical studies about it being used for transwomen and show them to your doctor.
Sorry I didn't read your post entirely. Where do you think I would be able to find these studies.
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Charles Gaddlefoot - Mon, 22 May 2017 08:22:10 EST ID:2IbZEiEJ No.403315 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>403311
A search engine for scientific papers.
For example:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=bicalutamide

Or, you can go to Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicalutamide
and look at the references list at the bottom.

If you can't access a paper because it's behind a paywall, use:
http://sci-hub.cc


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