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Question About Doctor and AAs by Charles Gallywater - Thu, 18 May 2017 23:27:19 EST ID:2k54T+z6 No.403272 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So I went to the doctor for prescriptions today (non-transition related). And I was wondering what AA's there were out there besides Spironolactone. Spiro sort of sucks at what it's supposed to do. I'm in the US and Cypro is unavailable here so I was wondering what I could get besides Spiro?

Also I was wondering if I could ask my regular doctor for a prescription of Estrodiol and an AA?
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Charles Gallywater - Fri, 19 May 2017 15:33:45 EST ID:2k54T+z6 No.403278 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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bamp
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Albert Cliblinghut - Fri, 19 May 2017 19:30:53 EST ID:2IbZEiEJ No.403280 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Bicalutamide.
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Phyllis Fendlewill - Fri, 19 May 2017 19:50:06 EST ID:W33OzG35 No.403281 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>403272

shouldnt your doctor know this? please dont tell me your doctor was like "i have no idea about other anti-androgens, but if you go ask /cd/ they can tell you".

In all seriousness though, why dont you like spiro? have your blood tests come back with high testosterone or something?

i did a google and came up with Nilutamide and Bicalutamide, but just so you know, i dont know about their usage for mtf HRT, so please do your research, if you do get either one of those make sure to read the pamplet specificity the side effects part.

now obviously if you're self medding and your dr is dr inhouse you're pretty much stuck with what you've got or else they would sell them under the anti-androgen banner.

But again i have no idea about their usage in mtf hrt or how effective they are and if they are any more or any less effective. The reason why spiro is so good is because you can use it longer than other anti-androgens without liver problems, unlike cypro.

anyway with all that said, here are some wikipedia links.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicalutamide
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nilutamide
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Matilda Blonkinwerk - Fri, 19 May 2017 19:54:23 EST ID:DvUsqYXm No.403282 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>403280
Can you tell me what bicalumatide is like. I hate spironolactone because it makes me piss too much and it dries me out.

>>403281
I didn't ask my doctor about it yet.
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Hamilton Bardshaw - Sat, 20 May 2017 06:51:27 EST ID:2IbZEiEJ No.403295 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>403282
>Can you tell me what bicalumatide is like.
I'm personally on both spiro and bica at the moment so I can't give you an unbiased perspective. Just use a search engine to find out what people have to say.
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Fuck Fuckingfuck - Sat, 20 May 2017 20:58:05 EST ID:T/ksnvB6 No.403299 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>403295
How is being on both as to say only being on Spironolactone.
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Samuel Shittingfoot - Sat, 20 May 2017 21:25:42 EST ID:2IbZEiEJ No.403300 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>403299
I feel like it helps. I reduced my spiro dose after going on bica. I've been on it for about 6 months I feel like it seems to have slowed by body hair growth. I usually dry orgasm nowadays whereas before with spiro I used to have a little bit of cum, so I take that as a good sign. I also started sublingualing my estrogen around the time I got on bica, so that might have had an effect too. My libido seems to be down more than before, I feel like. Reason I started bica was because my testosterone was still above female range (around low end of male range) after being on 200 mg/day of spiro.
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Fuck Fuckingfuck - Sat, 20 May 2017 23:34:36 EST ID:T/ksnvB6 No.403301 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>403300
I was wondering because bicalumatide is a chemotherapy drug and anti-androgynen.
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Samuel Shittingfoot - Sun, 21 May 2017 05:07:05 EST ID:2IbZEiEJ No.403302 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>403301
It's a chemotherapy drug in the case of testicular cancer because of its antiandrogen activity. Testicular cancer cells sometimes rely on testosterone to grow, so you can use bicalutamide to suppress that. But sometimes the cancer cells will mutate and continue growing even without testosterone, in which case other things like orchiectomy are the next option. Something like that anyway.
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George Greenridge - Sun, 21 May 2017 19:37:09 EST ID:h9DuSwl0 No.403308 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>403302
I only mentioned that because my doctor may say something about it being a chemodrug and my not prescribe it.
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Charles Gaddlefoot - Sun, 21 May 2017 20:23:33 EST ID:2IbZEiEJ No.403309 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>403308
Supposedly some doctors people prescribe it for transition nowadays. I don't know first hand because I selfmed. But maybe you can find some scientific/medical studies about it being used for transwomen and show them to your doctor. Also if you can't find any with bicalutamide you can try to find some for nilutamideand/or flutamide, two similar drugs that were used before bicalutamide was created.
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Fanny Shakeman - Sun, 21 May 2017 21:10:06 EST ID:CbslsIye No.403310 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>403309
I'm asking because I hear that it's way more effective than spironolactone.
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Lillian Drimmlewet - Sun, 21 May 2017 22:01:37 EST ID:h9DuSwl0 No.403311 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>403309
>But maybe you can find some scientific/medical studies about it being used for transwomen and show them to your doctor.
Sorry I didn't read your post entirely. Where do you think I would be able to find these studies.
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Charles Gaddlefoot - Mon, 22 May 2017 08:22:10 EST ID:2IbZEiEJ No.403315 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>403311
A search engine for scientific papers.
For example:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=bicalutamide

Or, you can go to Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicalutamide
and look at the references list at the bottom.

If you can't access a paper because it's behind a paywall, use:
http://sci-hub.cc
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Shitting Deblingstore - Mon, 29 May 2017 21:42:57 EST ID:2k54T+z6 No.403371 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So Question:
I'm skinny fat right now.
First I'm going to get my body/facial hair removed.
But should I start working out and then start HRT.
Or should I start HRT and then start working out.

>pic not at all related
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Jarvis Crarringspear - Mon, 29 May 2017 22:45:10 EST ID:W33OzG35 No.403373 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>403371

Are you a fetishist?
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Charles Beffingwell - Tue, 30 May 2017 11:28:37 EST ID:9Z+nhH7v No.403377 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>403371
this pic and the trap mode aesthetics have been confirmed to be psuedoscience/broscience bullshit
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Lillian Fittingchin - Tue, 30 May 2017 17:01:52 EST ID:YaxJc097 No.403379 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>403371
what a load of bullshit
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Shitting Deblingstore - Tue, 30 May 2017 18:16:15 EST ID:2k54T+z6 No.403380 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>403373
>Are you a fetishist?
No I don't know why you ignored my post and immediately fixated on that meme infographic.

>>403377
>>403379
Notice I said that the infographic has nothing to do with my post and is there to occupy space.
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RE:HRT and Fitness - Tue, 30 May 2017 18:22:41 EST ID:2k54T+z6 No.403381 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I'm going to start HRT soon but my body is thin and flabby. I'm actually a lot weaker than I was before. I used to be able to squat 190lbs curl 80lbs easily do 65 pushups in one set and run a 6 minute mile. Now I'm a bag of bones and a bit of fat, it would be worse if I didn't bike periodically.

I know HRT makes you weaker than not taking HRT. So I want to start HRT but should I start working out before or should I start and wait for the effects to start and then start working out. I'm going for the fit girl aesthetic.

Please read the post before making retarded assumptions.

>pic related because you girls are so easy to trigger
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Jarvis Crarringspear - Tue, 30 May 2017 18:46:10 EST ID:W33OzG35 No.403383 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>403381

Oh darling you're adorable.

You can go about it either way, honestly being totally skinny is not ideal for being a tranny because it draws too much emphasis on your bone structure.

You can go either way, you can lose the fat now and put it back on after you start (mind you, you'd need to wait a month or two for it to actually take the desired effect you're after) or you can just do your thing. the biggest issue is male fat distribution can be quite hard to tackle and does make you look out of place but i dont think you have such a big issue since you're "skinny fat". existing fat doesnt redistribute or does so very slowly, but any new fat will get put into the areas commonly associated with secondary sex characteristics.

But again this doesnt happen over night, you can pop your pills one week and the next week stuff your face and find yourself with thighs and a bum, hormones take a few months to actually effect you, so maybe you could just take hormones and do your workouts as per the usual and eventually you'll notice that your fat is going to different places.

>pic related
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Shitting Deblingstore - Tue, 30 May 2017 19:13:32 EST ID:2k54T+z6 No.403384 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>403383
So I should go full cardio burn tons of fat and starve myself.
And then eat a regular diet for a few weeks while I start HRT.
Then start pigging out on multiple Chipotle Burritos a day.
While going to the gym.

>pic absolutely not related
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Jarvis Crarringspear - Tue, 30 May 2017 19:23:05 EST ID:W33OzG35 No.403385 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>403384

hahahaha sure :) you can do whatever you want.

>pic related
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Shitting Deblingstore - Tue, 30 May 2017 19:54:32 EST ID:2k54T+z6 No.403386 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>403385
You're the same asshole that comes and shits up all of my posts for no reason. Please and kindly fuck off.
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Cyril Hevingford - Tue, 30 May 2017 20:16:59 EST ID:W33OzG35 No.403387 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>403386

you say that like you've never shit up other peoples threads, +z6 and for the record you shit up your own thread, i was just helping you :).
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Charles Clegglemedge - Tue, 30 May 2017 20:48:30 EST ID:2k54T+z6 No.403388 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>403387
pics or it didn't happen
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Charles Clegglemedge - Tue, 30 May 2017 21:31:31 EST ID:2k54T+z6 No.403389 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>403387
>>403385
You comparing me with groundskeeper Willie wearing a kilt and bra. With two small children in a basement. I'd beat you with a telephone cord and strangle you with it for making that comparison.
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Cyril Hevingford - Tue, 30 May 2017 21:46:52 EST ID:W33OzG35 No.403390 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>403389
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Phoebe Gemmlebodge - Wed, 31 May 2017 21:52:56 EST ID:rKrDRWMZ No.403407 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>403390
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Alice Debberdale - Thu, 01 Jun 2017 02:40:03 EST ID:8TBz9DSX No.403415 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>403389
internet toughtranny lol
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Nell Bomblepid - Thu, 01 Jun 2017 03:13:27 EST ID:2k54T+z6 No.403416 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>403415
I'm pretty relaxed and while I've never strangled anyone with a phone cord.
I can say that I probably wouldn't do that just for an insult. But I will say openly and without fear of repercussion that I will bring the drama if I have to. Meaning that if I get screwed I will make you wish you screwed with someone else.
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David Buvingman - Thu, 01 Jun 2017 03:15:38 EST ID:W33OzG35 No.403417 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>403416

oh really? what would you do? out of curiosity?

Like if i were all up in your face going "what you going to do bitch? huh? huh? huh?".
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Nell Bomblepid - Thu, 01 Jun 2017 03:21:59 EST ID:2k54T+z6 No.403418 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>403417
Depends how serious you were.
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David Buvingman - Thu, 01 Jun 2017 03:24:37 EST ID:W33OzG35 No.403419 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>403418

Hmmm, well how about you give us a run down of what you'd do at like 3/10 then 5/10 then 7/10 then 10/10, 10 being serious and 1 being un-serious.
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Nell Bomblepid - Thu, 01 Jun 2017 03:25:56 EST ID:2k54T+z6 No.403420 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I would ignore you because you're obviously an idiot.
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David Buvingman - Thu, 01 Jun 2017 03:30:45 EST ID:W33OzG35 No.403421 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>403420

hmm so ive irritated you slightly and that registers a curt warning, perhaps this reply has irritated you more? what do you do now? do you tell me to fuck off or does it ramp up a bit more?
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Nell Bomblepid - Thu, 01 Jun 2017 03:43:30 EST ID:2k54T+z6 No.403422 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>403421
No it just reinforces my evidence that you're attempting to troll me for some reason.You seem like you have some sort of deep seeded insecurity or sense of resentment, People like you are irritating but it's best to avoid assholes like you. You'll probably get what you have coming to you.

Here have a little known painting to look at.
It may cause you stop and think about your life.
Or some shit.
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David Buvingman - Thu, 01 Jun 2017 04:15:19 EST ID:W33OzG35 No.403423 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>403422

i thought we were on the same page but it appears we're not.

But i get it.
i like that painting. everyone looks so glum and afraid of the opinion of other, so disconnected from what could be a happy and joyous place, which is very unfitting for cooney island which as someone not from the usa is like an amusement park or something? But maybe it says more about you than me though? we are not alike you and i, but thank you for showing it to me none the less, i will enjoy my night looking into George Tooker.

But hey, im sorry for goofing off with you, i thought you'd jump on the train and have a little fun for a moment in fact i thought we were, i thought we were on this ride together for a moment, but unfortunately it appears to have left the station without you. you know i did answer your question about working out prior/post hrt and you didnt even tell me if the answer i gave sufficed, i guess once you're on the defensive thats where you stay when you feel like someone is attacking you the idea of goofing off just flys out the window.

I guess i just got you mixed up for someone else.
But regardless, i wholeheartedly apologise to you and i hope you accept my apology.

Here is a painting from a incredibly well known artist.
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Nell Bomblepid - Thu, 01 Jun 2017 04:52:02 EST ID:2k54T+z6 No.403424 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>403423
>But again this doesn't happen over night, you can pop your pills one week and the next week stuff your face and find yourself with thighs and a bum, hormones take a few months to actually effect you, so maybe you could just take hormones and do your workouts as per the usual and eventually you'll notice that your fat is going to different places.

I guess that was you, hardly good fitness advice.

>Here is a painting from a incredibly well known artist.
Kadinsky is not that well known outside of certain circles.
Thats a very nice Kadinsky by the way I've actually never seen it.
Here have a Matisse.
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David Buvingman - Thu, 01 Jun 2017 05:04:33 EST ID:W33OzG35 No.403425 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>403424

>hardly good fitness advice.

yeah well i meant you can't pop your pills one week etc. i guess some you need to some interpretation and dont take everything as an absolute :)

I like that matisse, ive never seen that, infact i havent really looked at much matisse, only really looked at the girl with green eyes.

Everyone i know knows about kandinsky hes mentioned every other day.

Heres some hannah hoch for you :)
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Nell Bomblepid - Thu, 01 Jun 2017 15:32:53 EST ID:2k54T+z6 No.403430 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>403425
>Heres some hannah hoch for you :)
Dada? Well here is one by Van Pepe.

>yeah well i meant you can't pop your pills one week etc.
You're supposed to take 100-200mg of spiro 2 times daily and typically about 4mg of estradiol 2 times daily. Of course some girls like to cycle their hormones but I never got the hang of it.


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