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Hormones Suck by Hugh Challygold - Tue, 02 Jan 2018 22:16:11 EST ID:gjPLkU7y No.404568 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Personally I hate the meds they prescribe for transition. Theyre terrible for you. Between Spironolactone,Cyprotone Acetate, and Bicalumatide there are no good options. I mean transition means that you have to take a chemotherapy drug and then take pills made for women going through menopause. Honestly having a dope habit or being an alcoholic is almost healthier than transitioning using those shitty ass pills.
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Cyril Borryville - Wed, 03 Jan 2018 00:45:31 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.404570 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404568

yep, and the fact that you need to take hormones for the rest of your life, that pretty much the entirety of your identity is tied in with you being a perpetual pharmaceutical customer is also another crux.

But it is what it is.
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Hugh Challygold - Wed, 03 Jan 2018 13:44:16 EST ID:gjPLkU7y No.404579 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404570
Shits weak man.
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Sidney Sammerbore - Fri, 05 Jan 2018 07:12:59 EST ID:2MZ+/S9J No.404601 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404570
You can always just cut your balls off and drink pregnant horse piss for the rest of your life. If you want the 'natural' way. The shitty way.
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Phoebe Claywater - Sat, 06 Jan 2018 01:41:34 EST ID:e9mjG9U5 No.404607 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404568
Speak for yourself, cypro works wonders for me.

If you're in the USA just go save up $3-4k and get Dr. Arnkoff in Detroit to do an orchi for you, deal with AA's until then. That's my plan. My doctor even works with me self medding the cypro, wonderful lady.
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Phoebe Claywater - Sat, 06 Jan 2018 01:42:15 EST ID:e9mjG9U5 No.404608 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404607
Going to add: I'd get an orchi done locally but it's $6000 for the cheapest surgeon here :/
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Phyllis Pibberpatch - Sat, 06 Jan 2018 04:50:26 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.404610 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404601

yeah but then my identity is still tied to the partaking of horse piss. im not complaining, its just a bummer that the moment i stop taking estrogen pills is the moment society stops seeing me as a woman, so i keep taking estrogen pills and continue to be a pharamcutical customer.

Its just a bummer is all, as i said, it is what it is. BTW drinking pregnant horse piss is not the natural way having ovaries is the natural way, something which is unobtainable for the foreseeable future.
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Walter Sillerstere - Sat, 06 Jan 2018 14:27:14 EST ID:D/2u+4B1 No.404612 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404607
Cypro is definitely more effective than Spironolactone. However Cypro is fuck hard on the liver and it leads to Vitamin B deficency. Both are not ideal outcomes for someone trying to lead a healthy life.
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Charlotte Drabberfuck - Sat, 06 Jan 2018 22:55:33 EST ID:e9mjG9U5 No.404614 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404612
At doses that are effective for MtFs, liver damage isn't an actual concern.

I take 12.5mg every other day, and leading research shows 10mg/day is about all that's needed for us. It's like prostate cancer doses that fuck the liver, not tranny doses.

Neither is an issue for me lol. Eat properly and b12 deficiency is impossible.
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Charlotte Drabberfuck - Sat, 06 Jan 2018 22:56:56 EST ID:e9mjG9U5 No.404615 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404612
Going to add: spiro isn't even a true AA, and it also permanently stunts breast growth.

Cypro is the gold standard around the world for a good reason lol. It's way the fuck better.
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Cedric Wiffingway - Sun, 07 Jan 2018 04:15:22 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.404616 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404615
>permanently stunts breast growth

[citation needed]
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Charlotte Drabberfuck - Sun, 07 Jan 2018 04:25:19 EST ID:e9mjG9U5 No.404617 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404616
Not my fault you don't keep up with the research on the drugs you take lol.
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Cedric Wiffingway - Sun, 07 Jan 2018 05:02:48 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.404618 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404617

So what you're saying is you dont have a source?
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Cedric Wiffingway - Sun, 07 Jan 2018 05:05:35 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.404619 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404614

Also i think you're discounting the amount of time you are on it. you cannot be on cypro for extended periods of time (2+ years) it is strongly advisable to get an orchi within that time, so Cypro is not a good option for people who either need to spend years saving for SRS or wish to not get an orchi.
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Cedric Wiffingway - Sun, 07 Jan 2018 05:15:48 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.404620 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404619

Actually i think im wrong about this. please ignore this statement. Everything i looked up said that it was on par with spiro or very rare.
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Graham Tootham - Sun, 07 Jan 2018 16:51:27 EST ID:ILZGCV2q No.404624 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404619
>>404620
Ive always maintained the position that Spironolactone, Cyrptone Acetate and Bicalumatide are not good medications for anyone to take for anyone who wants to look pretty.
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Cedric Wiffingway - Sun, 07 Jan 2018 17:21:51 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.404625 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404624

what about for people who want to develop female secondary sex characteristics?
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Nathaniel Brookfuck - Sun, 07 Jan 2018 19:40:45 EST ID:KhdS776Q No.404627 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>404625
Id say do your own thing.
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Nigel Honeyhall - Sun, 07 Jan 2018 21:40:48 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.404628 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404627

hahaha great suggestion :)
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Archie Copperhare - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 15:05:43 EST ID:t0kq8sti No.404637 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404619
He's also discounting the fact that even BIRTH CONTROL doses of progestins mixed with estrogen lead to elevated breast cancer risk in cis females.

What makes you think you're going to be safe?
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Thomas Blythewell - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 20:06:23 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.404638 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404637

I thought this was about cypro? yeah prolonged exposure to progestins can be bad. Thats not what im saying.

Being on all meds for a prolonged period is bad for you, every med. But its about minimising that damage done.
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John Gankinned - Sun, 14 Jan 2018 09:25:39 EST ID:FMbLOoxP No.404641 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404637

Statistically, suicide is a far greater risk. Do what makes you happy, they'll have breast cancer cured in 20 years, and even now the prognosis is good if you catch it early.
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Hamilton Brushstock - Mon, 22 Jan 2018 01:42:21 EST ID:I11qiGXD No.404702 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404616
i looked up to see if this was true, seems to be all speculation. Plus I looked at the tanner stages of breast development and i think i got to stage 5 using spironolactone. If anyone else wants to explain their breast growth while using spironolactone, thatd be great and it'd build more evidence of shit they dont know about
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Rebecca Futtingfield - Mon, 22 Jan 2018 05:37:40 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.404704 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404702

i used spiro from day 1, breasts developed normal, look normal, feel normal, there was definitely no stunting.


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