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Hormones Suck by Hugh Challygold - Tue, 02 Jan 2018 22:16:11 EST ID:gjPLkU7y No.404568 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Personally I hate the meds they prescribe for transition. Theyre terrible for you. Between Spironolactone,Cyprotone Acetate, and Bicalumatide there are no good options. I mean transition means that you have to take a chemotherapy drug and then take pills made for women going through menopause. Honestly having a dope habit or being an alcoholic is almost healthier than transitioning using those shitty ass pills.
Cyril Borryville - Wed, 03 Jan 2018 00:45:31 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.404570 Ignore Report Quick Reply

yep, and the fact that you need to take hormones for the rest of your life, that pretty much the entirety of your identity is tied in with you being a perpetual pharmaceutical customer is also another crux.

But it is what it is.
Hugh Challygold - Wed, 03 Jan 2018 13:44:16 EST ID:gjPLkU7y No.404579 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Shits weak man.
Sidney Sammerbore - Fri, 05 Jan 2018 07:12:59 EST ID:2MZ+/S9J No.404601 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You can always just cut your balls off and drink pregnant horse piss for the rest of your life. If you want the 'natural' way. The shitty way.
Phoebe Claywater - Sat, 06 Jan 2018 01:41:34 EST ID:e9mjG9U5 No.404607 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Speak for yourself, cypro works wonders for me.

If you're in the USA just go save up $3-4k and get Dr. Arnkoff in Detroit to do an orchi for you, deal with AA's until then. That's my plan. My doctor even works with me self medding the cypro, wonderful lady.
Phoebe Claywater - Sat, 06 Jan 2018 01:42:15 EST ID:e9mjG9U5 No.404608 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Going to add: I'd get an orchi done locally but it's $6000 for the cheapest surgeon here :/
Phyllis Pibberpatch - Sat, 06 Jan 2018 04:50:26 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.404610 Ignore Report Quick Reply

yeah but then my identity is still tied to the partaking of horse piss. im not complaining, its just a bummer that the moment i stop taking estrogen pills is the moment society stops seeing me as a woman, so i keep taking estrogen pills and continue to be a pharamcutical customer.

Its just a bummer is all, as i said, it is what it is. BTW drinking pregnant horse piss is not the natural way having ovaries is the natural way, something which is unobtainable for the foreseeable future.
Walter Sillerstere - Sat, 06 Jan 2018 14:27:14 EST ID:D/2u+4B1 No.404612 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Cypro is definitely more effective than Spironolactone. However Cypro is fuck hard on the liver and it leads to Vitamin B deficency. Both are not ideal outcomes for someone trying to lead a healthy life.
Charlotte Drabberfuck - Sat, 06 Jan 2018 22:55:33 EST ID:e9mjG9U5 No.404614 Ignore Report Quick Reply
At doses that are effective for MtFs, liver damage isn't an actual concern.

I take 12.5mg every other day, and leading research shows 10mg/day is about all that's needed for us. It's like prostate cancer doses that fuck the liver, not tranny doses.

Neither is an issue for me lol. Eat properly and b12 deficiency is impossible.
Charlotte Drabberfuck - Sat, 06 Jan 2018 22:56:56 EST ID:e9mjG9U5 No.404615 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Going to add: spiro isn't even a true AA, and it also permanently stunts breast growth.

Cypro is the gold standard around the world for a good reason lol. It's way the fuck better.
Cedric Wiffingway - Sun, 07 Jan 2018 04:15:22 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.404616 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>permanently stunts breast growth

[citation needed]
Charlotte Drabberfuck - Sun, 07 Jan 2018 04:25:19 EST ID:e9mjG9U5 No.404617 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not my fault you don't keep up with the research on the drugs you take lol.
Cedric Wiffingway - Sun, 07 Jan 2018 05:02:48 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.404618 Ignore Report Quick Reply

So what you're saying is you dont have a source?
Cedric Wiffingway - Sun, 07 Jan 2018 05:05:35 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.404619 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Also i think you're discounting the amount of time you are on it. you cannot be on cypro for extended periods of time (2+ years) it is strongly advisable to get an orchi within that time, so Cypro is not a good option for people who either need to spend years saving for SRS or wish to not get an orchi.
Cedric Wiffingway - Sun, 07 Jan 2018 05:15:48 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.404620 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Actually i think im wrong about this. please ignore this statement. Everything i looked up said that it was on par with spiro or very rare.
Graham Tootham - Sun, 07 Jan 2018 16:51:27 EST ID:ILZGCV2q No.404624 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ive always maintained the position that Spironolactone, Cyrptone Acetate and Bicalumatide are not good medications for anyone to take for anyone who wants to look pretty.
Cedric Wiffingway - Sun, 07 Jan 2018 17:21:51 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.404625 Ignore Report Quick Reply

what about for people who want to develop female secondary sex characteristics?
Nathaniel Brookfuck - Sun, 07 Jan 2018 19:40:45 EST ID:KhdS776Q No.404627 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Id say do your own thing.
Nigel Honeyhall - Sun, 07 Jan 2018 21:40:48 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.404628 Ignore Report Quick Reply

hahaha great suggestion :)
Archie Copperhare - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 15:05:43 EST ID:t0kq8sti No.404637 Ignore Report Quick Reply
He's also discounting the fact that even BIRTH CONTROL doses of progestins mixed with estrogen lead to elevated breast cancer risk in cis females.

What makes you think you're going to be safe?
Thomas Blythewell - Fri, 12 Jan 2018 20:06:23 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.404638 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I thought this was about cypro? yeah prolonged exposure to progestins can be bad. Thats not what im saying.

Being on all meds for a prolonged period is bad for you, every med. But its about minimising that damage done.
John Gankinned - Sun, 14 Jan 2018 09:25:39 EST ID:FMbLOoxP No.404641 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Statistically, suicide is a far greater risk. Do what makes you happy, they'll have breast cancer cured in 20 years, and even now the prognosis is good if you catch it early.
Hamilton Brushstock - Mon, 22 Jan 2018 01:42:21 EST ID:I11qiGXD No.404702 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i looked up to see if this was true, seems to be all speculation. Plus I looked at the tanner stages of breast development and i think i got to stage 5 using spironolactone. If anyone else wants to explain their breast growth while using spironolactone, thatd be great and it'd build more evidence of shit they dont know about
Rebecca Futtingfield - Mon, 22 Jan 2018 05:37:40 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.404704 Ignore Report Quick Reply

i used spiro from day 1, breasts developed normal, look normal, feel normal, there was definitely no stunting.
Barnaby Fonnerpire - Mon, 22 Jan 2018 18:23:10 EST ID:fZCLg6A6 No.404705 Ignore Report Quick Reply

But you probably still have tiny tits, so you can't say there was no stunting for sure.
Frederick Fugglekone - Tue, 23 Jan 2018 00:39:21 EST ID:I11qiGXD No.404706 Ignore Report Quick Reply
tbh my tits arent very big at all
Phyllis Tillingway - Tue, 23 Jan 2018 03:26:57 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.404707 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Hahaha nah they are decently big.
Fuck Blytheworth - Tue, 23 Jan 2018 04:04:50 EST ID:RbadIRAV No.404708 Ignore Report Quick Reply

For a tranny or for a girl?
Phyllis Tillingway - Tue, 23 Jan 2018 05:03:31 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.404709 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Depends on the tranny i suppose. Most girls who start HRT at a decent age and dont starve themselves come out with pretty alright boobs. Which is a shame because a lot of trans girls do starve themselves or develop a heroin or meth addiction which fucks with their boob growth more than anything spiro related as those junkies tend to neglect nutrition and food, especially meth heads.

But i mostly compare myself to other girls rather than other trannies.
Esther Bunforth - Tue, 23 Jan 2018 16:39:21 EST ID:2MZ+/S9J No.404710 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You can have ovaries, for about 30 minutes before the tissue rejection kills you.
Alice Govingfoot - Thu, 01 Feb 2018 16:22:45 EST ID:mQziZgJw No.404753 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Where is this possible and why do I think it's illegal?
Shit Dodgemod - Thu, 01 Feb 2018 19:41:03 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.404756 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Its not possible. they are experimenting at the moment. they have transferred a womb from cis woman to cis woman so far but it requires them to take anti-rejection drugs for the rest of their life or their body will reject it, so that seems to be the major hurdle at the moment.
Edwin Burringsotch - Thu, 01 Feb 2018 23:48:12 EST ID:BcldsTZf No.404759 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>no good options
A pretty healthy regimen is intramuscular estrogen, micronized progesterone if you want, and bicalutamide as needed.
Bicalutamide has no real side effects in most cases. And you can take a relatively small dose relative to chemo doses.
You can also get an orchi and then you don't need any AAs.

Really it's not so bad.
Priscilla Fuckingville - Fri, 02 Feb 2018 13:30:10 EST ID:dLvVFjKW No.404763 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>anti-rejection drugs for the rest of their life.
Don't female reproductive organs have major effects on the body? I'm pretty sure a stem cell version would less likely be rejected since it's the persons own genetics.
Shit Gacklebadge - Fri, 02 Feb 2018 22:15:32 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.404765 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Probably, but you're not talking tomorrow you're talking at least another decade or two and even then it would likely be expensive as hell.

Anti rejection drugs are what they use now, maybe stem cells will fix the issue, afaik they havent tested it.
Alice Dremmlenack - Sun, 11 Feb 2018 09:16:36 EST ID:iZ0fw2jn No.404792 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It doesnt matter by 2050 I plan to be deader than a hammer.
no sooner than 2030
Ladie_of_the_meadows - Sun, 11 Feb 2018 10:19:54 EST ID:kGgst/fC No.404793 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>25Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life
>Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live,

>26and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?”
David Ginderdeg - Sun, 11 Feb 2018 19:25:22 EST ID:iZ0fw2jn No.404794 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Jesus Christ the Nazerene is certainly real.

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