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Transgender is not Haram by السلام عليكم - Sat, 31 Mar 2018 06:47:22 EST ID:6OESwApW No.404957 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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https://youtu.be/slY4AXs0_ec
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Fuck Blannerwed - Sun, 01 Apr 2018 22:29:18 EST ID:EWp9iKDi No.404970 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>404957
What?!? You're saying transgenderism is halal?

Not only is it extremely cricket, but it's cricket and halal?!?
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Betsy Meckledale - Mon, 02 Apr 2018 07:10:48 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.404973 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404957

why would you want to eat trans people anyway!? thats cannibalism!
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Priscilla Girrywater - Mon, 02 Apr 2018 20:40:27 EST ID:7hJCOOod No.404977 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Where did this impulse come from? I'm fascinated by it. How'd you manage to shoehorn trannies into Abrahamic belief?
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John Gegglefoot - Mon, 02 Apr 2018 22:32:04 EST ID:Jt2EK7wn No.404979 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>404973
Buck Angel looks like he's got some good meat for the slow cooker. Probably too tough for a nice porterhouse or something, that's working muscle after all.

Serious question: Who do you think has the most tender meat, tguys or tgirls? I am curious about how hormonal redistribution of fat would affect marbling.
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David Sendercheg - Tue, 03 Apr 2018 10:59:04 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.404980 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404979

Depends on what you're into! i think tgirls are more like chicken and tmen are more like beef.
we got sum thick thighs and breasts while they have tenderloins and all kinds things to chew into.

wait is beef halal? dont moslems worship cows or something?
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Priscilla Girrywater - Tue, 03 Apr 2018 15:37:19 EST ID:7hJCOOod No.404982 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404979
transmen are all literally on steroids and pump iron from dysphoria erryday on top of that. it produces tough stringy meat. you can use it for braises or stews but otherwise
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Lydia Blongersotch - Wed, 04 Apr 2018 05:53:10 EST ID:Jt2EK7wn No.404985 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404980
Beef is halal if it has been prayed over, yes. That won't do us any good, seeing as we're commiting cannibalism and no Imam will bless that, but now you know LB^D
>>404982
I don't know, one of those chubby, twinkish ones with the Bart Simpson voices might still be good for steaks. But beefcake like Buck, you're right that's stew meat. I'm thinking that we'd have to nab Chaz Bono, too so we can make our own stock. Beef will probably clash.
According to the makers of Hufu, people are lighter and sweerer than beef. So I'm thinking lighter, more flavorful accompaniments. Rutabagas, egyptian onions, tomatos, maybe some lentils or gnocchi to give more heft to the dish. Maybe celery, although the cook time will be a lot different for people meat than beef so they'd probably end up mushy.
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William Nugglewirk - Wed, 04 Apr 2018 15:21:58 EST ID:7hJCOOod No.404986 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404980
Hindus worship cows, muslims just stick their dicks into them occasionally :^)
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Alice Mibberdodge - Fri, 06 Apr 2018 03:33:58 EST ID:QcS7KNL4 No.404998 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404982
What the fuck are you talking about? All I've ever seen transmen being is ... let's see, everything else! Okay, maybe not everything, but all manner of opposites of iron pumping, whether it's a charm obsessed story&joke teller, or a by-the-book metrosexual that looks like he would go into an homesick-alergic-seizure from straying a few kilometres from the nearest university, or any other kind of lanklet that simply wouldn't be able to put on muscle except possibly by taking severely elevated poisonous doses of testosterone(or perhaps just being fucking practical and grabbing some trenbolone, but they'd never do that) or, particularly often, they pack on a walrus physique - all content with how masculine they believe that makes them look.
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Alice Mibberdodge - Fri, 06 Apr 2018 03:38:31 EST ID:QcS7KNL4 No.404999 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>404986
>Hindus worship britbongs, muslims just stick their dicks into them ALL THE TIME :^)

FTFY.
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Fuck Sunderchutch - Fri, 06 Apr 2018 19:31:52 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.405000 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404999

Wow thats racist. not all english peoople have blonde hair and blue eyes. what the fuck.
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Phineas Duvingwell - Sat, 07 Apr 2018 17:46:33 EST ID:7hJCOOod No.405001 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>404998
>what is selection bias

you don't clock the transmen that pass.
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Rebecca Gosslecocke - Tue, 10 Apr 2018 03:37:59 EST ID:FXvFJ0is No.405006 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>404998
If you're Buck Angel you're pumping iron to build out upon that feminine frame. And that totally works. And you can comfortably get a side job at a moving company.

But if your goal as a transman is to become a slightly doughy nerd IT manager type, that's the one look you're never gonna pull off. It's like how women can be feminine with a buzz cut or long hair, but at some point in the middle you look like Thurston Moore for at least two weeks.

Trans man twinks are a thing. Skinny fucks can pretty much do whatever they want. You just can't really tell the difference between them and all of the other androgynous people in the skinny twink/lesbian category
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Archie Gizzlehetch - Thu, 12 Apr 2018 04:07:19 EST ID:QcS7KNL4 No.405028 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405001
What are you smoking? Since when is it ever remotely hard for transmen to pass?
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Edward Wurrystone - Thu, 12 Apr 2018 13:08:15 EST ID:gDnOTMab No.405032 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Who cares if its haram or not. I own a Koran, so my opinion is valid. Im not going to let some old book run me.
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Polly Bardway - Thu, 12 Apr 2018 19:04:57 EST ID:Jt2EK7wn No.405033 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405028
For most of them, they pass until they try to speak.
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Martha Denderdot - Sat, 14 Apr 2018 17:00:25 EST ID:/VOlaVL3 No.405040 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405033
Most transmen are tiny compared to cismen.
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Martha Punningdodge - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 05:20:43 EST ID:7hJCOOod No.405047 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405033
>>405040
this. i legit suspect most people on this board don't interact with very many others outside of their bubble.
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Charlotte Pittbury - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 21:14:34 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.405050 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sometimes I wish I could be Muslim because I think I'd look cute in a hijab. What is wrong with me?
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Beatrice Derringlidging - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 21:29:20 EST ID:7hJCOOod No.405051 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405050
Hey, underneath all those robes, it's not like anyone can clock you on your shoulder size.
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Charlotte Pittbury - Sun, 15 Apr 2018 22:30:03 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.405052 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405051
I don't have that broad of shoulders though.
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Charlotte Pittbury - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 02:57:12 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.405053 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Is it considered cultural appropriation for a white woman to wear a hijab? I just did a quick Google search and supposedly this would not offend Muslims although it would most certainly offend the ess jay dubs. I honestly think I'd look cute in one and it will help me in covering up my male pattern baldness, at least, until I return to the hormones in three months.

My endocrinologist brought up sperm preservation and while I am away that it could be too late for me. I still feel I should take this opportunity or else I'll face another regret my entire life. I have plans to immediately get back on the HRT soon though. Even the LGBT Center of Los Angeles agrees with my decision since sterilization is an unknown variable when it comes to this.

From what I've been reading it seems like I wouldn't have to worry about most Muslims taking offense at a non-Muslim white girl wearing one of these headscarves especially when non-Muslim women are expected to wear them upon visiting very Islamic countries such as Saudi Arabia. I am afraid of those ess yay dub type of people who would get mad and scream cultural appropriation at me. Not that I ever gave two shits about their views anyway.
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Molly Ferrydale - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 07:53:35 EST ID:Jt2EK7wn No.405060 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>405053
I mean, you could look into getting a Western headscarf. Some of this shit is cute, and it does the same shit without the political fuckery.

Goyim don't wear yarmelukes fashionably.
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Frederick Pickgold - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 09:37:17 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.405061 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405053

SJW wouldnt dare question your legitimacy of being a muslim but really, covering yourself up in a hijab is what muslims want to happen.

So by all means go ahead, the muslims will applaud you and the sjws probably will too for being progressive. you never know the hijab may be the next pink hair!
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Matilda Mengerdock - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 10:34:34 EST ID:uqmeVSlx No.405062 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405060
I already looked into western headscarves but most of them expose the top of the head. The only ones that don’t seem to be for cancer patients. When it comes to this for me it seems like it is either look like a Muslim or someone going through chemotherapy.
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Matilda Mengerdock - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 10:37:58 EST ID:uqmeVSlx No.405063 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405061
Is it wrong of me to be more worried about what sjws think than what Muslims think? I mean, SJWs can be very mentally unstable and will always look for things to take a stand against which could entail violence. It seems like most Muslims, with the exception of the obvious terror groups, are passive and don’t want to start much trouble.
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Frederick Pickgold - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 18:15:01 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.405064 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405063

Well they are both terror organisations arent they? SJWS kill your reputation where muslims kill your buildings and freedoms.

Is it wrong? i dunno, you tell me. Remember white people can be muslims too, so they would never question your legitimacy. you shoulld get the Transflag and turn it into a hijab :)
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Charlotte Pittbury - Mon, 16 Apr 2018 19:24:54 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.405066 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405064
I do feel like I would be lying since I am not a Muslim. And the amount of terrorism between those two groups can swap. The SJWs could literally threaten violence and do something drastic where as the Muslims could be calm and collected. There are a few Syrian refugees living in my town (like eight of them) and they don't cause any trouble.
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Ian Checkledut - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 03:02:41 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.405067 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405064
Now I want a hijab that is the transgender flag. :-(
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Samuel Fuckingdale - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 06:54:12 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.405068 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405066

i have heard syrian refugees are fantastic, i lived next to somali refugees and they were so terrible, well the dad/husband was, i still have nightmares sometimes.

The hijab isnt a muzlem garment, i mean it is but you dont need to identify as a muslim to wear it.
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Ian Checkledut - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 08:35:05 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.405070 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405068
What should I say if some SJW tries to start some shit wth me?
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Samuel Fuckingdale - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 08:45:02 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.405071 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405070

"check your privilege cissy!"
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Ian Checkledut - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 18:05:26 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.405072 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405071
I suppose there is a greater threat from Americans assuming you are Muslim and committing hate crimes than threats from actual Muslims or social justice warriors, but still, this shit is retarded.

https://youtu.be/jDlQ4H0Kdg8
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Samuel Fuckingdale - Tue, 17 Apr 2018 19:03:34 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.405074 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405072

Yeah thats actually the hilarity of america, they still have rampant poverty and other issues going on but because so many americans are privelegedediged middle class all they can complain about is "eww look at that person wearing dreadlocks thats unfiar because thats moi cultcha"
I swear the next asian girl i see with brown hair im going to go up to her and go "OI YOURE NOT ALOUD BROWN HAIR BECAUSE THATS MOI CULTCHA MATE! TAKE YOUR HAIR COLOUR OUT AND DYE IT BACK TO BLACK IMMEDIATELY YOU PRIVELEgEDED SO AND SO!!"

then ill play them this song.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJAfLE39ZZ8 and maybe this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4irXQhgMqg
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Edward Hirringwater - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 00:33:44 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.405076 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405074
But brown hair isn't uncommon for Asian people, right? Wouldn't it be better if you see an Asian dying their hair red?
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Edwin Pickforth - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 05:43:57 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.405078 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405076

Its pretty rare for an asian person to have natural brown hair. their hair is usually black its probably less rare when include pakistan and india.
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Edward Hirringwater - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 08:54:18 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.405079 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405074
There is another threat coming from the opposite end since there are white nationalists and islamophobes (not everyone is one of these, but that still doesn't mean that they don't exist). How should one defend against them who also sometimes get violent?

I just read an article about wearing a hijab as a non-Muslim and it said one woman that wore one for similar reasons that I am contemplating had her car wndows smashed out and a message written on it calling her a hijab-wearing bitch and to leave.
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Phyllis Chunnerlere - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 19:02:53 EST ID:7hJCOOod No.405080 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405079
>defending against people who get violent

It's called a gun, and a CCW. All transwomen should have them. All Muslim transwomen should be running for their local gun show right fucking now.
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Edward Hirringwater - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 19:20:26 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.405081 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405080
Wouldn't it be unethical to be a gun owner without the proper gun training?

I'm sure that would take some time for someone who has never fired such a weapon before or may have some slight learning disabilities.

/k/ recommended a spray since it's not just a meme in the meantime. Do you concur?
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Edwin Pickforth - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 19:29:57 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.405082 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405079
thats true. maybe she could like go to the islamophobia commity and be like "psst hey im going to infiltrate islam groups to tell them allah sucks, so if you see me wearing a trans flag hijab about its kewl aiit? ;) ;)" and then the islamophones would be like "aiit ;) ;) ;)"
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Rebecca Gellywater - Wed, 18 Apr 2018 21:33:03 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.405084 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This thread on /lgbt/ turned to total shit when the Muslim bashing got started.

https://archived.moe/lgbt/thread/9817336/
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Jenny Crublingsock - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 04:52:35 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.405086 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405084

>the future
>racists

why am i not surprised.
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Rebecca Gellywater - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 06:40:51 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.405088 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405064
> you shoulld get the Transflag and turn it into a hijab :)
Do you know of any stores that could make a custom hijab for me?

I've searched everywhere online so far.
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Frederick Pillerbanks - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 08:34:31 EST ID:hdkTIAkB No.405089 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405084

Racists always fuck up the Islam bashing.
>Saudi Arabia's policies against homosexuality are deplorable
>Damn straight! Kill all the browns.

They can't fucking help it.

Anyway most of the Islamic state powers have some pretty horrible anti-gay laws. Peter Thiel's crusade against Gawker is entirely based on the fact that they outed him while he was on a business trip in Saudi Arabia. They completely ruined his ability to do business with the potential partners he had been courting there and potentially put him in danger.
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Jenny Crublingsock - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 10:13:35 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.405090 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405088

You should do a google search to get local results. its totally a thing!
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Frederick Cregglehood - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 12:20:56 EST ID:DJMnN8vh No.405091 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>405079
There are tons of white nationalists that are now becoming muslim. Because of Hitlers statements on Islam and support from arabs. Its a disturbing trend. You have groups such as atomwaffen tht are white nationalist Islamist groups.

>>405089
Personally I dont know why any of you would actually convert to Islam. I personally read the Koran but I have no intention of becoming a muslim and going to a mosque. Personally I would call my self a nonreligious believer in God. I read the bible in addition to other complementary texts including the Koran.

I like the Koran because it talks about the unseen and God being the God of more than one world. Supporting the idea that there is more to life than this bullshit. Its a shame how the imams twist that book into a tool of destruction and slavery. But its the same of most religions.
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Frederick Cregglehood - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 12:20:56 EST ID:DJMnN8vh No.405092 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>405079
There are tons of white nationalists that are now becoming muslim. Because of Hitlers statements on Islam and support from arabs. Its a disturbing trend. You have groups such as atomwaffen tht are white nationalist Islamist groups.

>>405089
Personally I dont know why any of you would actually convert to Islam. I personally read the Koran but I have no intention of becoming a muslim and going to a mosque. Personally I would call my self a nonreligious believer in God. I read the bible in addition to other complementary texts including the Koran.

I like the Koran because it talks about the unseen and God being the God of more than one world. Supporting the idea that there is more to life than this bullshit. Its a shame how the imams twist that book into a tool of destruction and slavery. But its the same of most religions.
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Frederick Cregglehood - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 12:59:09 EST ID:DJMnN8vh No.405093 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I also haven't read any part of the Koran that condones violence or repression angst women. It does contain prescribed roles for people and and talks about Gods wrath. However I've not read any part of that actually justifies sharia and beheadings.
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Rebecca Gellywater - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 13:51:36 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.405095 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> There are tons of white nationalists that are now becoming muslim. Because of Hitlers statements on Islam and support from arabs. Its a disturbing trend. You have groups such as atomwaffen tht are white nationalist Islamist groups.
How is this pathetic yet sad yet disturbing yet scary all at the same time?

>>405092
I just want to wear a hijab. I ordered one from Amazon, but it's a cheap one for $4.99 since most hijabs are expensive as shit.

>>405090
I live in a shithole desert, irony, of California where it's all rednecks and gang members where the only few who would wear a hijab are the female Syrian refugees of which a total is 12 that we have living here.
I tried finding a local place for this and failed. We don't have shit up here.
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Frederick Cregglehood - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 15:54:53 EST ID:DJMnN8vh No.405096 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>How is this pathetic yet sad yet disturbing yet scary all at the same time?

It is pretty fucking sad considering how they hate all nonwhites. Its pretty bad when you have to steal your self proclaimed enemies religion in order to defeat said enemy. It basically defeats any merits your cause has. European civilization became clearpy superior to the islamic world after the Renaissance and Enlightenment. Both of which created th3 industrial revolution. A blind adherence to dogma weahter it be Islamic,Christian or otherwise will not bring about anything constructive.
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Jenny Crublingsock - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 17:38:57 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.405097 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405095

Well then its time to embrace archaic womanhood!! Get your needle and thread out woman!!! start making those transhijabs!
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Shit Blackford - Thu, 19 Apr 2018 23:55:51 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.405098 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405096
I've been intrigued about knowing more about the Quran for some time now since it is the only religious text that I know zero about. I have a good idea of what is in the Old and New Testaments of the Bible and I presume that the Torah is essentially just a stripped down version of the Old Testament, yes? But this book alludes me.

Upon reading your posts about it I feel a little more intrigued to check it out. The problem is that I never know where to begin with researching one of these holy scriptures and whenever I find them online somewhere, they are always very expensive for the nice ones.

Where do you suggest I begin with reading the Quran?

>>405097
I have honestly considered doing this and I've been considering on taking up sewing, knitting, and tailoring too. If you know how to make your own clothes it seems like it would be inexpensive to convert male clothing into female clothing after those YT tutorials I watched.
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Augustus Pockhall - Fri, 20 Apr 2018 16:21:36 EST ID:7hJCOOod No.405101 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405081
>gun training

Step 1: How does operate safety?

Step 2: durr don't point this at people! remember to put this in a metal box!!!

Step 3: ???

Step 4: Profit!

If African children can do it without instruction in the Sahel I'm sure you're perfectly capable of going without too. It's not even a question of IQ unless you are actually too inept to function in day to day life, in which case I think you'd have a handler or family anyway. You know what's the real statistical threat above all accidental gun deaths? Blasting your own brains out from the crippling dysphoria. Guns are too easy to use correctly. We're too good at using them correctly - to our own detriment.

So don't if you think you're going to suicide at age 35 like the rest of you say around here.
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Reuben Deblingstene - Fri, 20 Apr 2018 19:21:46 EST ID:iFj4/lxD No.405103 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>405098
>Where do you suggest I begin with reading the Quran?
I bought the Oxford Version (Academic Translation) which I'm sure hardcore Islamists will have issue with as there is a sentiment that it must be read in Arab to be considered authentic. But that doesn't matter to me as my intention is more academic than religious. The only actual issue I have with it is the fact that the Surah (chapter) names are only in English.

Of course I recommend you start from the beginning as I did. The Opening/Al-Fathia is very short less than a page. That's where it reads:
>Praise belongs to God, Lord of All Worlds (not just Earth).

Then there is Al-Baqara/The Cow which is sort of a silly name if you think about it. But it refers to false Idolotry. Here are some favorite excerpts:

>As for those who disbelieve. it makes no difference whether you warn them or not they will not believe. God has sealed their hearts and their ears, and their eyes are covered. They will have great torment.

This gives me internal peace against people who have opinions I disagree with. There is nothing anyone can do for them.

>Some people say we believe in God and the Last Day, when they do not believe. They seek to deceive God and the believers but only deceive themselves, though they do not realize it. There is disease in their hearts, which God has added to. Agonizing torment awaits them for their persistent lying.

This passage is similar to James 1:26-27. It applies to all those false-Christians, Muslims and others religious people who seek to enforce their own idea of religiosity and dogma on others. Basically your false prophets and people who say "ya'll need Jesus. The people that Satanists refer to as moralist, which is inaccurate because these people are immoral themselves.

>The believers, the Jews, Christians and the Sabians. All those who bleive in God and the Last Day and do good will have their rewards with their Lord. No fear for them, nor will they grieve.

This delimits salvation to anyone religion, sect or cult. This takes away spiritual power from those who say you have to x religion to attain salvation or eternal life. The Qu'ran says more on this as does the New Testament of the Bible. In English the Qu'ran reads similar to the Bible.
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Reuben Deblingstene - Fri, 20 Apr 2018 19:34:09 EST ID:iFj4/lxD No.405104 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Ali Imran/The Family of Imran has more interesting passages:
>Give news of agonizing torment to those who ignore God's revelations, who unjustifiably kill prophets, who kill those who command that justice is done: the deeds of such people will come to nothing in this world and in the next and no one will help them.

>do not replace good things with bad, and do not consume their property along with own a great sin.

>You who believe, it is not lawful for you to inherit women agains their will, nor should you treat your wives harshly, hoping to take back some of the bride-gift you gave them, unless they are guilty of something clearly outrageous. Live with them in accordance with what is fair and kind: if you dislike them, it may well be that you dislike something in which God has put much good.

I like this passage because it really shows that modern Islam is out of step with the Koran. And that the Imams and Sheiks have used the Qu'ran for their own political agenda over the millennia. They use their own sensibilities and ideas to define what is outrageous. The Qu'ran has in no way justified what we see in the Middle East in terms of Sharia Law. Of course I haven't read the whole book but I have seen nothing in it that justifies what I see going on over there. I guess you could call them false believers given the circumstances.

Of course I have more of an mystical/academic interest.
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Charles Cimbledock - Fri, 20 Apr 2018 20:17:58 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.405105 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405103
>>405104
The more I see and hear regarding the Quran, and in some circumstances Islam, I get the impression that this is better structured and more logical than the other Abrahamic religions. That this was something that was intended for great good and yet has been twisted and corrupted for great evil by terrorist organizations.

I mean, shit, you have to read the text in Arabic to comprehend the authenticity? That sounds like they knew that translations could seriously damage the message.
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Charles Cimbledock - Fri, 20 Apr 2018 20:22:34 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.405106 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405103
>>405104
I suppose this text states that LGBT people remain hell-bound too, right?
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David Hindlefurk - Fri, 20 Apr 2018 21:27:50 EST ID:7hJCOOod No.405107 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405106
LGB, yes. T, no.

This has resulted in the Islamic world being in general harsher on gays than on trannies.
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Ian Snodson - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 01:16:40 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.405108 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405107

its sorted we should now create an islamic school of thought based around transgenderism.
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Charles Cimbledock - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 01:42:48 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.405109 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405107
The Quran is really supportive of transgenderism? Is this why Iran allows for sex changes? How come the other Middle Eastern countries which follows this particular faith haven't allowed such things yet?

Are there any passage of interests in the Quran that supports transgenderism?

I also decided to pose this question to ProBoards Support since they seem as if they are sheltered and only buy into what they are being told by the media. I asked them if a "non-Muslim white" person wears a hijab if it is considered cultural appropriation and someone responded with, "Replace hijab with Yamaka and ask yourself the same question.."

Wouldn't this be a weak argument since the Yamaka belongs to an entirely different cultural group?
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Charles Cimbledock - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 04:52:41 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.405111 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405110
Would God approve of me wearing a hijab?
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Charles Cimbledock - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 16:17:57 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.405112 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405104
Can you cite where these passages are found in the Qu'ran so I could look it up again?
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David Hindlefurk - Sat, 21 Apr 2018 16:46:56 EST ID:7hJCOOod No.405113 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405112
>>405110
>>405109
Believe it or not, transgenderism was a thing back in the 6th century. Its absence from the Quran despite the Old Testament's proscription against crossdressing is more telling than people realize.
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Priscilla Dartfield - Sun, 22 Apr 2018 21:20:02 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.405117 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405115
The problem with using this thread as a resource is that it's on an imageboard and threads eventually disappear on imageboards. I'd like the verse numbers so I could always look them up at a future time in case this thread 404'd.
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Angus Brankinkadging - Mon, 23 Apr 2018 09:11:56 EST ID:DJMnN8vh No.405122 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405117
Thats not a problem here.
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Angus Brankinkadging - Mon, 23 Apr 2018 09:11:56 EST ID:DJMnN8vh No.405123 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405117
Thats not a problem here.
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Cyril Cremmerlire - Mon, 23 Apr 2018 21:59:39 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.405128 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405104
Can I still have the passage numbers for this one? I want to cite it.
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Cyril Cremmerlire - Mon, 23 Apr 2018 22:02:28 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.405129 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405104
Is this the copy you've been reading? Because I found one English transition on the Internet Archive.

https://archive.org/stream/TheQuranOxfrdWrldClas/The%20Qur%27an%20%28Oxford%20World%27s%20Clas%20-%20M.%20A.%20S.%20Abdel%20Haleem#page/n33/mode/2up/search/Give+news
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Cyril Cremmerlire - Tue, 24 Apr 2018 08:53:20 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.405132 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405097
I am honestly contemplating on making this since now I really want a transgender flag hijab.

Where should I start?
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Shit Honnerpidging - Tue, 24 Apr 2018 11:51:33 EST ID:DJMnN8vh No.405134 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405129
Thats the one, its a good book. But I suggest you keep the right perspective and not let anyone elses ideas shape your interpretation of it. I suggest viewing it as apart of a larger truth and not the whole truth. Remember it was written over 1300 years ago in a violent and chaotic Arabia, for Arabs. It does apply to modern life but in a highly relativistic way.

Of course you should draw your own conclusions.
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Shit Honnerpidging - Tue, 24 Apr 2018 16:09:35 EST ID:DJMnN8vh No.405136 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I was also going to caution you against discussing the Qu'ran with anyone muslim or not. Most devout muslims wouldnt take kindly to you reading since youre transgender. And most non-muslims feel thretened by it. Personally I just tell people that something other than I am a person who studies mythology,The Bible, Qu'ran, Buddhism, the Science of Self Realization and other texts and believes in them all to an extent from a larger perspective. Its this weird post-modern mysticism married to strong belief in technology and science. I wont actually share what that actually means and Ill let people speculate.
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Walter Brookstock - Tue, 24 Apr 2018 18:54:08 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.405137 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405132

Basically a hijab is just a scarf, you could probably just buy a trans flag at your next LGBT protest or rally and use that

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdLKWgzL9TU

But if you want to make something yourself thats actually comfy then go to your local haberdashery store, they will likely sell fabrics.

To make a comfy trans flag bit of fabric I'd get a baby blue, baby pink and white fabric from the store, if they dont have any in that colour then you could just dye white fabric them that colour.
Maybe ask them if they have sewing courses you could attend to have them show you how to operate a sewing machine

Basically just make a trans flag long enough to be a hijab and you have a transflag hijab to wear :)
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William Hiffingway - Tue, 24 Apr 2018 22:30:46 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.405138 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405137
I do not go to LGBT protests, rallies, or pride parades. Can I still find the flags on eBay and would the material they are made out of being comfortable?

I never thought I'd want something that bears this banner before this thread.

I seriously want one now.
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William Hiffingway - Tue, 24 Apr 2018 22:34:18 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.405139 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405134
Wouldn't the Qur'an already be a part of a larger story since it references previous ones from the Old and New Testaments?

I remember reading some of The Cow (Is that the one talking about heffas?) and I remember that it was summarizing most of the shit we already were aware of in the West.

>>405136
Couldn't you just point out that the scripture never mentioned anything about transgenderism nor does it condemn it? I mean, what are Mukhannathun?
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William Hiffingway - Tue, 24 Apr 2018 22:41:08 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.405140 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405137
>>405138
I watched a few videos about how to make them and one woman said to look for Jersey which supposedly is the material that t-shirts are made from. Is it possible to find a flag that uses this material? I'm just afraid that it would be uncomfortable to wear if I just pick up any old flag.

I did find this on eBay and there are multiple types of material available to purchase.

What sizes should I get to make it into a headscarf?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pride-Flag-Trans-Transgender-Fabric-Printed-by-Spoonflower-BTY/282909274225?hash=item41deb4f071:m:mGhTECBEBQ06GI9Tqig_0vw
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Ebenezer Macklefield - Wed, 25 Apr 2018 05:07:18 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.405144 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405140

im sorry you've already exhausted my knowledge on hijabs. this is where you go on a journey of discovery my sister.
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Cyril Dullerpan - Wed, 25 Apr 2018 12:35:45 EST ID:DJMnN8vh No.405146 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405139
>I remember reading some of The Cow (Is that the one talking about heffas?) and I remember that it was summarizing most of the shit we already were aware of in the West.

Yeah basically. Though personally I believe in more than that.

>Couldn't you just point out that the scripture never mentioned anything about transgenderism nor does it condemn it? I mean, what are Mukhannathun?

I'm pretty sure they consider it akin to homosexuality and thus
considered haram.Which is why I dont really recommend any of you becoming actual muslims. Read the Qu'ran take what you can from it like being a good charitable person and there being more to life. But for the love of God dont become actual muslims because most Christians beleive your the devil because of what it says in Leviticus. Christians arent even supposed to follow that.
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Matilda Drarringham - Wed, 25 Apr 2018 18:38:36 EST ID:7hJCOOod No.405149 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405146
>>405146
Mukhannathun are NOT homosexuals. The direct translation of the word is "men who resemble women". There is another specific term that is used for homosexual intercourse in the Quran (the concept of "orientation" does not exist yet - you are defined by your acts).

In other words, mukhannathun are those who resemble women in appearance and mannerisms.

>A mukhannath is the one ("male") who carries in his movements, in his appearance and in his language the characteristics of a woman. There are two types; the first is the one in whom these characteristics are innate, he did not put them on by himself, and therein is no guilt, no blame and no shame, as long as he does not perform any (illicit) act or exploit it for money (prostitution etc.). The second type acts like a woman out of immoral purposes and he is the sinner and blameworthy.[1]
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Graham Penderwodging - Wed, 25 Apr 2018 19:43:18 EST ID:Zg94VnMk No.405150 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405149
Well you obviously know more than I do. Of course I don't claim to be an expert.
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Priscilla Boblingpadging - Thu, 26 Apr 2018 02:41:45 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.405152 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405146
Couldn't you just study the bible too and shut up those Christians with some of their scripture?

How come Iran doesn't associate transgenderism with homosexuality?

>>405149
Why would they associate mukhannathun with homosexuals if they are not the same thing?

That makes no sense. Wouldn't transgenderism categorize under mukhannathun?
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Emma Grimcocke - Thu, 26 Apr 2018 12:58:45 EST ID:DJMnN8vh No.405155 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>405149
>mukhannathun
Yeah you should post screenshots of that scripture. Since you have the pdf version on your computer. I've been working alot so I haven't had time.

>>405152
>Couldn't you just study the bible too and shut up those Christians with some of their scripture.

James 1:26, KJV: "If any man among you seem to be religious, and bridleth not his tongue, but deceiveth his own heart, this man's religion is vain."

There you go,but there's more than that.
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Beatrice Nunningwune - Thu, 26 Apr 2018 21:33:26 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.405156 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I really this the person in this thread quoting the Qur'an cited verse numbers. I want to highlight them in the PDF I got from the Internet Archive.
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Cedric Fanworth - Sat, 28 Apr 2018 02:55:49 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.405158 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405137
Are the surging and sewing necessary?
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Cedric Fanworth - Sat, 28 Apr 2018 04:52:28 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.405159 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405158
What the fuck? This woman is doing extra work. This guide shows you how to make a hijab without sewing and it's literally just measuring and cutting.

http://muskajahan.com/2015/03/how-to-make-a-hijab-diy/

I could literally make this without sewing since I already found the perfect transgender material.

Not sure what they meant by "Shayla style" though. Is that the ones that drap down to cover the breasts?
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Jarvis Smallforth - Sat, 12 May 2018 16:13:56 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.405254 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I guess it really isn't harem.

https://www.facebook.com/Nayyab-Ali-Pakistans-First-Transgender-Politician-NA-141-434071907042783/
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Fucking Tillingdale - Sat, 07 Jul 2018 13:59:46 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.405440 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405134
I was told that the Qur'an is read backwards. Is this true and does that hold true for this particular version?
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Betsy Husslegold - Sun, 08 Jul 2018 05:00:30 EST ID:Mh9Cu0qP No.405445 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405440

Na'ruq, rabka halla

Mind blower.
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Hedda Tillingfield - Mon, 13 Aug 2018 09:25:13 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.405604 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Does the Qur'an get worse as you progress through the chapters?
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Nigel Gimmerpudge - Thu, 16 Aug 2018 01:04:04 EST ID:wXklkGrh No.405615 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405440
Arabic is written and read right-to-left, and what would appear to be the back cover of a book to people used to reading English is actually the front cover of a book written in Arabic. To Arabic readers (and readers of Hebrew and Farsi), English is "read backwards." A more helpful distinction is to say that English is read left-to-right and Arabic is read right-to-left.

This is irrelevant in English translations of the Quran, which are written as English is customarily written, left-to-right.
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Ebenezer Sundlelock - Fri, 17 Aug 2018 19:57:55 EST ID:YMUFI45V No.405624 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405615
You know how they say that in English speaking countries (see British) they drive on the left side of the road because they read from left-to-right, but would Arabic countries drive on the right for similar reasons?
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Samuel Himblefuck - Sat, 18 Aug 2018 22:31:47 EST ID:/OG1EjaB No.405626 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405624
America, Canada, Latin America
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George Wanningleck - Sun, 19 Aug 2018 13:51:15 EST ID:dJ2Eeipu No.405628 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405624
Literally everyone drives on the right save Britain, its former colonies, Japan, Mozambique, and Indonesia.
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James Trotgold - Sat, 01 Sep 2018 02:48:02 EST ID:j2fI3czC No.405638 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>405628
Japan needs to get their shit together. They're better than that. Those other countries all deserve their backwards roads but not Japan.


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