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Considering grad school by Cornelius Wosslestack - Sat, 29 Aug 2015 02:41:37 EST ID:A/ZPVECK No.77050 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I'm considering getting a master's in chem. I have always enjoyed chemistry, but I majored in liberal arts. That being said I recall a fair amount about it from taking AP chem in high school.

In any case, I'd mainly like to focus on materials science because I have some experience with machining and fabrication. I'm also thinking I'd end up in education, because I like teaching and that seems like a solid way to go in terms of job security and salary.

Really I'm just looking for advice here. I love chemistry, but I'm pretty damn rusty and I have no real college experience - AP chem in high school is generally a lot easier than an actual college course.

First steps? Things to consider when looking at programs? Any and all tips or advice would be appreciated.
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Vehk !7HYGxe5v5c - Mon, 31 Aug 2015 14:51:54 EST ID:9sH3Ao2e No.77091 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I'm an undergrad Biochem student in southern Ireland. We have two main pharmaceutical hubs here, one in Dublin and one in Cork. The pay is slightly higher in general in Cork. Employment is plentiful as there are many different companies and they are frequently hiring (in fact, something like 20% of the lab technicians at a Pfizer lab I interned at didn't even have a B,sc. Although most of these people are dinosaurs who started working before hiring was standardized).

As a lab technician, you are looking at 30 - 35k starting, which is 40k dollars. If you manage to get a full QC position (helpful if you have your degree in or are spec'd in analytical chemistry) you could see that pushing 40k euro, though the work is quite banal and repetitive. Other facilities do biotech rather than organic synthesis and these would be a bit more stimulating. These places are harder to get hired in though, it's the Pharm-Org-Analytical jobs that are plentiful. If you are good there is also plenty of room for upward mobility in QC/QA labs.

By the way, why are you getting a master's instead of a Ph,D? Most research fellowships (these often pay quite nicely) require Ph,D minimum, and it's also what you need to get a job in basic research in industry.

As I was saying, the market is very comfy here, but work experience is kind of important - most of our colleges here do placements to pad CVs. If you want to work/live in Ireland, it is possible to get dual-citizenship if you have Irish ancestry and are an American citizen.

Personally I am doing this course as a pre-med to become eligible for graduate entry to Medicine, but it is very reassuring to know I can always fall back to industry if my aspirations in Medicine or Research don't work out.
Edward Pecklewill - Tue, 01 Sep 2015 22:26:08 EST ID:uGD5aNS6 No.77102 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>If you want to work/live in Ireland, it is possible to get dual-citizenship if you have Irish ancestry and are an American citizen.
Huh. Do you know anything about Ireland's biomedical research? I wanted to do a post doc abroad, was considering centeral Europe/Germany if I can find a position. Never really considered Ireland, even though by ancestery I am primarily Irish.
Vehk !7HYGxe5v5c - Wed, 02 Sep 2015 13:05:09 EST ID:ILVV3idO No.77105 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Ireland has a strong history of medical and pharmaceutical research, particularly in oncology. It mostly centers around the main national universities.

David Honeybury - Tue, 08 Sep 2015 18:40:45 EST ID:dkMoIz4p No.77130 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I mean you could take some more classes. College chemistry is nothing like high school though. Basically you've taken at most two semesters of college chemistry. You'll basically have another degree.
I think to be a high school/ junior high teacher you could get by with maybe about gen chem (2) + o chem (2) + p chem (1-2) + inorganic + quantitative analysis + math + physics (2). This is only the minimum possible requirements of course (I'm sure most colleges will require much more). So, not to dissuade you but, there would be quite a few classes that you would need to take first even for a bachelors degree. On the plus side, you'll have all of you're generally classes covered.

As far as master programs go, you're adviser will end up mattering a lot more than the college will. Choosing a good adviser who is well known in the field and is easy to get along is what you're looking for.

Anyway, worth pointing out that chemical engineers have good job prospects and will probably end up taking quite a few of the same courses.
A Wizard - Wed, 09 Sep 2015 01:41:46 EST ID:eg2eHljf No.77133 Ignore Report Quick Reply

What? That's not how you pick your master. You find a complete asshole who knows his shit and hates his students, and you make that motherfucker laugh every damned moment you get the chance, except the times he's trying to focus.

The reward is that he teaches you, at the expense of the annoying dipshits you compete with. He'll probably even show you things he shouldn't too, just in hopes you use it.

The biological singularity by Sophie Piblingforth - Thu, 04 Feb 2016 19:54:08 EST ID:3xOkFk4I No.77623 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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the technological singularity is discussed and well known enough but wouldent the same assumptions more obviously lead to a biological one (assuming we are around after the former). the tech one is basically the unknown after we create a computer that can create a better computer than we can. however a computer (unless we specifically design it to) is not necessarily interested in procreation or its own survival. a biologically altered human though would probably still have those drives in tact (unless we remove it). not that an AI cant value itself and wish to spread or a modified human couldent do the opposite its just that its less likely. both are likely to be started by us but probably completely with very different motives. a biological organism -such as ourselves- is designed by evolution to spread and we may consciously remove that whereas an AI could develop it but it isnt an integral part of its original form. we are moving to a point where we can program genes almost as easily as we code an AI thus the exponential improvement in ability is just as feasible biologically as digitally. consciousness dosent automatically lead to a desire to continue; the childless humans (and more so the suicidal) have evidence to share on this. why should an intelligence, without an inbuilt need for survival and legacy, necessarily adopt both?
fundamentally wed be in the same boat as with machines in hoping they dont turn against their creators but in practice we are more likely to empower and pass on our need to continue to the latter. hell, we might even be cheering it on; it would be much easier for us to embrace designer babies than really advanced software.

tl;dr: we will soon be able to make computers that can make better computers than us. after a slight time lag we will be able to create humans that cant create better humans than us. the former will have the advantage of being earlier but the latter is more likely to be inherently interested in advantage and promoting the same.
not that its even automatically a bad thing since our creations will exceed us (by definition in this case) and will be able to do more than us. they probably wont automatically (see what i did there?) feel a need to turn on us and …
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Hugh Battinggold - Mon, 08 Feb 2016 11:38:47 EST ID:FHFwCltH No.77636 Ignore Report Quick Reply
bump for interesting post
David Blapperridge - Thu, 11 Feb 2016 13:44:59 EST ID:cIUKn2oY No.77649 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The danger of malicious AI doesn't lie in the Matrix type robot rebellion tho. It's more about whether AIs will fully understand the implications of their actions in the same ways we do. Unless you simulate a human brain, AI won't ever be human. It will be something else entirely.

For example, lets say we program an AI to protect and take care of us. The AI's prime directive is to keep humans safe, so true to it's programming it traps all us in a never ending stasis. It has our best interests at heart, yet it effectively ended humanity. Or you make an AI to perfect some product, and it decides to use the entire planet for computational substrate in order to do so.

Kind of a cop-out, but you get the point right?
Sidney Fanworth - Fri, 12 Feb 2016 03:53:13 EST ID:X6HIP3d/ No.77650 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No. In fact I think you are intentionally shilling misinformation
Nigger Mucklepune - Sat, 13 Feb 2016 06:26:29 EST ID:+DZfgoAX No.77656 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That's essentially the premise of the grey goo scenario which was dreamed up by Prince Charles. It's plausible but you'd have to fuck some shit up badly to have it happen. Bear in mind that for it to occur you have to have that sort of tech in the hands of fuckwits, and if fuckwits can get it, then there's more powerful technology in the hands of other people who are more competent and aware of the dangers.

I get your point but you're talking about design faults. People will test and experiment and build failsafes on anything that's high risk enough and only roll out something that can end life as we know it if they already have a way to stop it.

Anyway I think that it's also quite possible we'll merge with the machines. Superhuman humans will just be a stopgap or an option for people unwilling to become a sentient nanobot swam or join the network.

Graphing Woes by Hannah Fuckinghood - Wed, 03 Feb 2016 14:21:25 EST ID:bATSxV63 No.77615 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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If you have a graph where the different series represent different units (e.g. conecentration, pH, and a Ratio), what should you label the Y-axis?

In return, bountiful tits!

Mods, sorry if this meant to be SFW board. Just sandwhich my picture, if you could make it a delicious turkey sub that'd be swell
Fuck Mobblepadge - Thu, 04 Feb 2016 05:07:15 EST ID:NyZzVSs3 No.77616 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Personally I'd put them all on a 10 scale and just use that
Label wise I'd be a link to the math of each line so i could work my way back to the orginal value if need be
Bombastus !lnkYxlAbaw!!7zlcjO/U - Thu, 04 Feb 2016 17:35:26 EST ID:ElYFdcKO No.77618 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Work safe board pls. At work. Not safe.

RIP in fucking pieces.
Archie Conninghood - Tue, 09 Feb 2016 10:27:17 EST ID:bATSxV63 No.77640 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm guessing you dont meant a log scale, just a 1 - 10 type dealie?
Seems like a good idea, i'll give that a playaround in excel.
Also, if I on the X axis I was measuring 4 different pH values, it would seem to make sense to just label them via the tube numbers.
However, apparently that is not acceptable for the report i'm writing.
I can't exactly label the X axis as pH either, as i've already got values for that on the Y axis and the Series.
Any advice would be much appreciated.
press !QUHukXEvkY - Tue, 09 Feb 2016 12:41:05 EST ID:MD/oThse No.77642 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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in excel you can use atleast two different y-scales.

and im guessing that youre plotting a titration?
in that case id say that the pH has to be in the y because it depends on the volume of added solution

could you just give us a brief run down on what your experiment is?
Archie Conninghood - Tue, 09 Feb 2016 13:12:15 EST ID:bATSxV63 No.77645 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Of course! I'm sorry, I should've led my post with that.
I'm writing a report for an experiment I did in my Intro To Pharmacology class.
The experiment is, "The Uptake Of Salicyate Into Yeast Cells".
It's to demonstrate the phenomena of the passage of weak acids and bases between lipid membranes.
The report centers on the manipulation of the Henderson-Hasselbalch formulae in order to determine the concentration of salt [A-] within the yeast cell.
I've managed to create a graph of the standard curve with no trouble (R2 of 0.9989, very pleased about that), but the last graph showing the relationship between pH, [Salicylate] and [Salt] (both inside the cell and the supernatant) is proving trickier.

Uni decisions by Charlotte Clellerstire - Thu, 21 Jan 2016 22:52:57 EST ID:YFGLWvGz No.77548 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Need some advice. Tossing up between continuing my bachelor of science (only completed 1 semester) or changing to a bachelor of agriculture which is aimed more at what I want to do (Agronomy) I feel as though I wouldn't get an agricultural job with a bachelor of science. And should I travel to a prestigious University to study? or study at the University in my own home town. Any advice is much appreciated as I am having a hard time with these decisions and 3 years is a big commitment and I dont want to finish one then look back wishing I chose the other one. I am Australian if that matters. Thanks
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Vehk !7HYGxe5v5c - Thu, 28 Jan 2016 11:08:55 EST ID:VhvSklsj No.77586 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Second, it's important that we get him off /med/ where his baloney could have more serious coneequences as well.
Phineas Fengerdale - Fri, 29 Jan 2016 11:25:26 EST ID:GgTTTkur No.77596 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah like getting me to eat dirt for a head ache!
Vehk !7HYGxe5v5c - Wed, 03 Feb 2016 03:58:54 EST ID:/ZLfJIXn No.77613 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Yeah, because everytime the mods locked one of your shitpost threads or banned you from /lit/ they forgot to check the IP, it's all a a big conspiracy. It's obvious what you're doing and it's pathetic.
Bombastus !lnkYxlAbaw!!7zlcjO/U - Thu, 04 Feb 2016 19:05:09 EST ID:ElYFdcKO No.77621 Ignore Report Quick Reply
LMFAO. EHUEHUEHUEHUE. Please screencap that or yellowtext the story.

In biology, biological cultural assistant, biology consultant, office data entry job, teacher
In chemistry, simple laboratory assistant, anal. org. etc. Oil. Pharma
In physics/math, any financial job, teacher.
those are just what i can think of within 15 seconds.
Shitting Pishkare - Mon, 08 Feb 2016 14:54:18 EST ID:5RCKIYnW No.77637 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Any job you can do plus alot more.

wheresmymotherfucking biology board by William Gapperbat - Thu, 31 Dec 2015 22:24:52 EST ID:IaY1gFOQ No.77484 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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hey, fuckin, if i run a current through some shit, like a strong fuckin "im gonna connect extremely powerful device A to mains outlet but the wire's going through thistank of water

will it kill everything? even the microbes? even the tiny superhero antman?
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James Chommerbury - Tue, 05 Jan 2016 00:51:38 EST ID:GEEvdbi2 No.77498 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hopefully it only kills you
Ebenezer Sonkinman - Wed, 03 Feb 2016 13:24:04 EST ID:yvLCKMRO No.77614 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The OP is stupid, the question is not. Does anyone actually know whether microbial life can survive high voltage?
Sophie Chonkinchetch - Thu, 04 Feb 2016 11:53:58 EST ID:wE3/tzia No.77617 Ignore Report Quick Reply
  1. Inoculate appropriate (liquid) culture medium with some non-pathogenic, non-sporulating bug.
  2. Split the broth between two sterile electrolytic cells (to rule out the influence of the electrodes or whatever).
  3. Apply suitably high voltage to one of the cell, for a suitable amount of time.
  4. Wait for the bugs to multiply, then compare optical density.
  5. Repeat.
  6. Report.
Clara Dripperdale - Sun, 07 Feb 2016 21:42:53 EST ID:+8mgBrQ3 No.77634 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hugh Battinggold - Mon, 08 Feb 2016 01:10:15 EST ID:FHFwCltH No.77635 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Presumably it would eventually kill microbes.
One common means of transforming (aka introducing plasmids) into bacteria is elctroporation, which is essentially zapping bacteria with pulses of electricity. These pulses generate small pores in their membranes, into which plasmid DNA slips in.

However this is done in a highly controlled setting, high intensity bursts, and even that produces holes in their membranes, and even that kills alot of the bacteria. Its assumed that even if only 1% survives, in a culture of >1million cells thats no big deal, you still have 10000 cells that will produce viable colonies.

Now, after that little tangent, electric currents are used as a form of chromotography known as electrophoresis. Essentially when you run DNA or protein gels you separate by size based on charge. Since most molecules in the cell are either negative or positively charged, you would essentially tear the cell apart based on the charge of molecules within it. Even the membrane would be torn apart as the negatively charged head groups are pulled toward the cathode, with basic proteins pulled toward the anode.

UNCLE FESTERN BOOKS by Hugh Geddledale - Fri, 08 Jan 2016 21:26:41 EST ID:gtW0pF7l No.77510 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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hello there /chem/ I've been reading uncle festern books and I would like to ask:

is this serious chemistry to be applied? what do you think of his methods? good, bad or dangerous?

thanks, SLAYER to all chems (seeing Bombastus still here is great as fuck, I've been outta here for long time)
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press !QUHukXEvkY - Fri, 22 Jan 2016 09:48:17 EST ID:trptNJfh No.77549 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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HI/red P is nice for intermediate knowledge of chemistry and lab techniques
things like P2P condensation with in situ prepared methylamine reduced over Al/Hg or Grignard reactions for amphetamine are a whole other story. for the more advanced methods you either need huge personal funds, sneaky access to a uni lab or a criminal background

seeing as you dont have any background in chemistry, you should try to opt for the safest methods whenever possible. and id recommend looking up chemistry write ups for practical lab courses in OC1, these often have extensive risk assesment and security information. just to get a feel for proper chemistry and how to take pride in your work

dont be one of those shake and bake fuckers that leave bombs laying around in the forrest, because if there happens to be even a single circle of hell, those fuckers belong there.
Alice Trotwill - Thu, 28 Jan 2016 21:02:14 EST ID:t0ksP9bJ No.77587 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Haha I like wordle too
Phineas Fengerdale - Fri, 29 Jan 2016 03:00:45 EST ID:GgTTTkur No.77593 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't like to talk in nouns
Phyllis Wuckleford - Sun, 07 Feb 2016 14:48:34 EST ID:ig6EEMwa No.77629 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Shake and bake is useful because you can burn the evidence and it's almost if not free.
press !QUHukXEvkY - Tue, 09 Feb 2016 12:44:51 EST ID:MD/oThse No.77644 Ignore Report Quick Reply
yes, just burn the evidence. while were at it, burn the forrest down, just to make sure there are no witnesses
then continue with self immolation, that way you wont fail any urine tests

Overwhelming amount of physics by Studying tips, tricks, advice, and general stories - Wed, 21 Oct 2015 20:39:25 EST ID:Fd+bN9n4 No.77312 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Student here, I'm taking a calculus based physics course and it's ruining my life. Literally spend the whole day, roughly 6-8 hours working on physics problems daily because of the overwhelming amount of work that goes into our grade. To the point that I have been neglecting my other subjects and my grades in those classes are slowly going down, except physics.

My question is, is there any tips or advice on how to juggle such intensive courses and exceed in all of them at the same time? I need to reevaluate my plan because I feel like if I spend less time on physics, my grade will go down since the material is so dense.

Stories of people in higher academia are appreciated. Also tips to unwind and not let physics ruin your life.

For example, I worked on 8 hours of crunching problems in my problem set all day. Now that I'm home, I feel the need to continue but my brain feels like mush.


I take adderall on the weekday and I don't have ADHD, just because I want to pass this class.
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BMO - Tue, 05 Jan 2016 00:54:59 EST ID:Fd+bN9n4 No.77499 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Are you reading the textbook, meeting with your prof to the point that you feel like you actually understand what you are doing? I know when I first took physics I often would look at the homework and literally try to find the equations that yielded the right answer. That is the absolute opposite of the way you should be handling it.

Your absolutely right about that, I spend my first month doing it like that. But guess what nigga, I walked out with a B+, I wanted that A so bad, but I guess I'll get it next semester.
name - Tue, 05 Jan 2016 01:33:01 EST ID:97gqDNib No.77500 Ignore Report Quick Reply
just graduated with a degree in astrophysics from UC santa cruz. I got a C my first semester of physics at community college. You're fine.

P.S. screw mechanics
Samuel Blatherson - Thu, 21 Jan 2016 18:49:25 EST ID:Qhw9/k12 No.77547 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Classes like these are built to be extremely difficult and made to be frustrating and shitty, anon. Don't put too much of your personal worth into getting great grades in classes like this, just try to get a mastery of the material and work forward from there. Meet with your professor and go to the help room. 6-8 hours a day reeks of inefficiency, anon. Get some help, this stuff is a bitch to teach to yourself.
Hamilton Ganninghere - Tue, 26 Jan 2016 10:52:54 EST ID:W06/MA+o No.77568 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Double Math & Physics major chiming in. There's no shortcut. You signed up for 8 hours of work a day so what do you expect?

I don't even have access to adderall despite having mind autism. Shit sucks.
Nigger Blinkinwater - Wed, 27 Jan 2016 00:35:11 EST ID:KI/L6/gT No.77580 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dude that's what like certain groups would likely to support certain things

What do you think about this structural formula /Chem by Simon Semblefot - Wed, 06 Jan 2016 10:32:42 EST ID:U3Z4vTFt No.77503 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Went from eating mushrooms and smoking dmt to willingly let this get injected in my arm. I've been taking it because it seems to make things normal in my waking hours but dreams are questionable. It's listed as having potential fatal side effects while i'm pretty sure DMT and psylocibin don't.

I was wondering if any chemists could speculate on the structural formula to me it looks very large compared to the simple structures of psychedelics, but i've never studied chemistry.

Here's more about the ingredients: Paliperidone palmitate is very slightly soluble in ethanol and methanol, practically insoluble in polyethylene glycol 400 and propylene glycol, and slightly soluble in ethyl acetate.

Invega Sustenna® is available as a white to off-white sterile aqueous extended-release suspension for intramuscular injection in the following dose strengths of paliperidone palmitate (and deliverable volumes of the prefilled syringes): 39 mg (0.25 mL), 78 mg (0.5 mL), 117 mg (0.75 mL), 156 mg (1.0 mL), and 234 mg (1.5 mL). The drug product hydrolyzes to the active moiety, paliperidone, resulting in dose strengths of 25 mg, 50 mg, 75 mg, 100 mg, and 150 mg of paliperidone, respectively. The inactive ingredients are polysorbate 20 (12 mg/mL), polyethylene glycol 4000 (30 mg/mL), citric acid monohydrate (5 mg/mL), disodium hydrogen phosphate anhydrous, sodium dihydrogen phosphate monohydrate, sodium hydroxide, and water for injection.

So what's your opinion should i continue to take it or go back to using psychedelics.
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Vehk !7HYGxe5v5c - Thu, 28 Jan 2016 22:42:16 EST ID:VhvSklsj No.77590 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Go to /sci/ on

> t h e f u t u r e

There's always a global warming is fake thread on the first page with lively discussion.

Also, there's a rumour going around that most of the Organic Chemistry generals there are started by Bombastus.
Phineas Fengerdale - Fri, 29 Jan 2016 02:59:32 EST ID:GgTTTkur No.77592 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What the fuck you talkin bout?
Vehk !7HYGxe5v5c - Fri, 29 Jan 2016 09:08:56 EST ID:VhvSklsj No.77594 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Your mother's fat ass.
Phineas Fengerdale - Fri, 29 Jan 2016 11:24:32 EST ID:GgTTTkur No.77595 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I like butter on those buns to be melted first ;)
A Wizard - Mon, 01 Feb 2016 01:24:06 EST ID:Kym7F5BQ No.77602 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I actually do believe in the formation of Reptilians and their science and tech knowledge he and that can possibly alter the dynamics and even up to and including humans technology

i want muthhaphuckin nickel by Hannah Bidgefoot - Sun, 03 Jan 2016 23:43:22 EST ID:hW4hIjzS No.77496 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hello! Anybody has some idea how could i separate nickel(II) sulfate from copper(II) sulfate with common chemicals and equipment ? I feel like reduction to copper(I) than separation by solubility is the way to go, but i can't think of a practical method.
James Chommerbury - Tue, 05 Jan 2016 00:49:40 EST ID:GEEvdbi2 No.77497 Ignore Report Quick Reply

probably cheaper to buy nickel and copper wire and mix them with sulfurous acid, separation of ions is typically done by chromatography, could also try some sort of precipitation reaction to make copper chloride, nickel chloride solids and use the differences in melting points, which would be the least convienent option.
Green Fox - Thu, 07 Jan 2016 21:00:45 EST ID:/ODYWh0d No.77508 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ni2+ has a standard reduction potential of -0.26V

Cu2+ is at 0.34V

You can selectively plate either metal onto a variety of metal cathodes using a more reactive metal like iron as an anode... I think. You just dial the cell voltage down until only copper is being reduced.
Alice Trotwill - Thu, 28 Jan 2016 21:03:21 EST ID:t0ksP9bJ No.77588 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hot it with a hammer
Isabella Drallerdock - Fri, 29 Jan 2016 16:19:26 EST ID:TSHbcYDX No.77599 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If I had all those nickels I would put them in a sock and throw them down a hole to prove Gravity is as fast as light

Substituting Tryptamines by Fiend !!1C9jE+w+ - Sat, 26 Sep 2015 02:19:51 EST ID:SPL8SH61 No.77200 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So precipitated by Bombastus I've decided to actually use my brain and time on handling drugs as opposed to just procuring them. I haven't been to school in years and I don't know anything practical about chemistry, just the names of lots of functional groups, not how they work. Anyway, that's just disclaimer.

What I want to talk about is tryptamines, and substituting therein. It was mentioned over in /psy/ that there's a way to convert DMT to 4-HO-DMT. As well as talk of changing 4-subs, to get things like 4-Bromo-DMT and 4-Vinyl-DMT.

I'm not exactly sure what my question is. I think it's a better idea for me to put this thread here and just read what more educated people say to each other. I guess what I want to hear is about how difficult it would be to change substitutions on existing tryptamine material.

Obviously it depends, but since I have no idea what I'm talking about, some examples I'm wondering about:
DMT > another unsubbed tryp, like DPT or MET. What would be entailed?
DMT > 4-HO-DMT or vis versa? I need to get up the gumption to extract DMT anyway; could I convert from there? I suppose that's gotta be easier that extracting alkaloids from mushrooms, separating 4-PO-DMT, from 4-PO-NMT, and modifying from there?
What about 4-AcO-DMT into either 4-HO-DMT or DMT? Working from there could answer a lot of questions about the nature of the 4-AcO-tryps as prodrugs. Also as Bombastus suggested that would make mail order psilocin a possibility.

Anyway, talk. I will do my best to keep up and ask not stupid questions.
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Fiend !!1C9jE+w+ - Sun, 25 Oct 2015 21:53:30 EST ID:dnZGP2Dj No.77326 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I was actually agreeing with you about it not being worth it, despite what you know (accurately) about my 4-sub-MET preference. I guess I phrased it unclearly.

And what do you mean where did I get DPT? Internet. Duh. I had 4-AcO-DPT for a while too, but I didn't get a real sense for it the 2 times I did it. I'd love to have another go at it. Plus DPT is kind of a bitch to dose. I don't intend on touching it again until I either perfect IV technique, or decide to freebase it (which I should really do to gain some confidence about kitchen chemistry);
Ebenezer Fisslewodging - Tue, 27 Oct 2015 16:58:07 EST ID:4AZAqA2e No.77331 Ignore Report Quick Reply
DPT has been fairly common in the RC scene for the last few years, Sir
Bombastus !!HToBa9dh - Wed, 28 Oct 2015 16:39:30 EST ID:ElYFdcKO No.77333 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've only gotten into the alkyl substituted substances only a few days ago. I took 4-AcO-DET which is the first non-DMT substance I've ever tried. DPT is something to look at for sure, then.
But I think all creations can and should be done with DET instead of DMT considering the stability and relative similarities to DMT molecules.

Why is DPT hard to dose? Can't you just eat it?
Fiend !!1C9jE+w+ - Wed, 28 Oct 2015 21:54:39 EST ID:dnZGP2Dj No.77335 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Eating it is a massive waste of material, and snorting it is vile beyond anything. Plugging it was far less effective than snorting, also a waste of my money, and injecting it is problematic since it is not wonderfully soluble in water. IM was by far the best route, I just was using several of the 1ml insulin syringes that are easily accesible in US pharmacies.
Beatrice Fanford - Tue, 03 Nov 2015 11:21:50 EST ID:Ja2fAPPl No.77350 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Why is DPT hard to dose? Can't you just eat it?

>Although it was mentioned in TIHKAL that DPT is orally active, we found this route to be quite unpredictable when taking it without an MAOI. Recent reports indicate that propyl-huasca works very well using the standard amount of MAOI combined with 75-150 mg of DPT.

anything relevant to comp sci by Martin Commlechitch - Tue, 05 Jan 2016 01:43:01 EST ID:63B22mtZ No.77501 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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im currently studying comp engineering/ comp sci, and am doin fairly well, but i feel like 95% of my program is more focused on comp sci and coding and we are never really learning about actually engineering.
what i'm wondering is, what other fields of science (or any other subject) do you guys think are important for someone in my field to have a decent understanding of? also, what are good resources to check out for staying up to date with whatever you recommend / good starting points? any subreddits, news sources, podcasts, anything that's a good resource for learning i'm most interested in graphics programming as well as anything audio related, sound manipulation, etc. but really any recommendations are appreciated
thanks in advance!
A Wizard - Wed, 13 Jan 2016 03:52:59 EST ID:U/pEBCij No.77519 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Study the teachings of Pythagoras. They pretty much fill all of your interests. There's as much about harmonics as there is about geometry.
Vehk !7HYGxe5v5c - Sun, 17 Jan 2016 15:54:37 EST ID:uxs5rJ20 No.77531 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Whenever I read your posts, I pretend that you are David Brent from the UK Office and read them in his voice.
Vehk !7HYGxe5v5c - Sun, 17 Jan 2016 16:01:30 EST ID:uxs5rJ20 No.77532 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Pharmaceutical Chemistry by Fucking Huddleford - Thu, 03 Dec 2015 17:49:54 EST ID:dhY+6e5d No.77401 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Are any of you guys pharmaceutical chemists? I want to go to college for it, but Im curious what your guy's work day is like and also what to expect from college, and what classes I'll have to take.
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Molly Fudgetat - Sun, 06 Dec 2015 21:14:42 EST ID:Dqu7ojT7 No.77411 Ignore Report Quick Reply

This is a question for an adviser. or just go look at the course catalog of a university you are interested in.
Thomas Gickleforth - Fri, 01 Jan 2016 23:45:56 EST ID:3nQ8foZE No.77487 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I got my degree in Bio Chem simply because the Chem major at my school required liner algebra as a co-rec for quantum chemistry...
Thomas Gickleforth - Fri, 01 Jan 2016 23:47:40 EST ID:3nQ8foZE No.77488 Ignore Report Quick Reply
my bad, linear algebra
Phyllis Bosslehag - Sat, 02 Jan 2016 20:13:45 EST ID:0LQJvC/t No.77491 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Its fucking hard.
Theres a lot of math and physics based math and constant algebra.

Also pharmacology and medicinal chemistry are pretty much exclusively graduate level.

So you would likely be getting a chemistry degree and then sitting on your ass unless you plan on going to grad school.
Vehk !7HYGxe5v5c - Thu, 14 Jan 2016 17:56:02 EST ID:0kilcEvV No.77522 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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One of the big boys of English-speaking pharmaceutical academia here tbh

> Theres a lot of math and physics based math and constant algebra.

> Theres a lot of math

Pre-calc, Calc I and II, and eventually statistics/bioinformatics. Learning new maths will probably make up less than a fifth of what you spend your time on, though you will use basic maths for almost everything you're working with.

> physics based maths

Literally understanding vectors, electromagnetism and other mostly linguistic or spatial concepts with a few formulas to plug numbers into/transpose mixed in.

> constant algebra
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