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Volatile stuff by Fuck Worthingwill - Sun, 21 May 2017 20:21:38 EST ID:hNxjAHrm No.78658 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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At my job in a corn refinery I check solutions of 3% NH3, 2&5%NaOH, 7%HCl w/v using a graduated cylinder, specific gravity bobber, a pH meter temperature probe, and a reference calculation.

Is there a better way? It seems to me we should be able to incorporate some kind of probe out in the plant to check these constantly and automatically adjust instead of taking everyone's time to do them be hand every few hours, look at the results elsewhere, call them reasonably accurate, and adjust, all the while exposing the sample collectors and lab personnel to hazards.

Pic is from my research plot at uni, Boris came from a stray pollen grain in this otherwise introgressed population and had to be castrated.
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Angus Pickstone - Fri, 02 Jun 2017 02:35:29 EST ID:Yd/IDzLj No.78673 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>78658
Corn refinery?
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Hamilton Bockledock - Fri, 02 Jun 2017 03:20:48 EST ID:zsw9I8fO No.78674 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I wish I could tell you but I don't know about fractional distillation nor column chromatography. Sorry sir.
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press - Wed, 14 Jun 2017 13:39:45 EST ID:3upPNRT1 No.78686 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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im not familiar with the setup of a sugar factory and i dont know what exactly youre asking but in some cases an icorporated EC or pH sensor -or a series thereof- is good enough to adjust to the correct levels.

but if all youre checking is the stated solutions which are then added in a whole batch as opposed to continous flow, id reckon that a graduated zylinder and a single EC or pH probe that is calibrated for the given range would be enough. you could then just mix them in bulk and store the fitting amounts in containers? ive got no fucking idea.

as i now begin rambling id like you to take everything with a 58g of salt.
for automation of pH and EC and density you could use an arduino based sensor system if youre just getting into automation. there are quite reliable prebuilt shields and chips for pH and EC. depending on the general setup of the system you could either use a microcontroller, arduino based or a clone, and fucking labview, or run a microcontroller via python to log data and readjust the solutions. but in my experience the pumps and valves(which would normally fare fine at the concentrations youve listed) are still fucking expensive or not that easy to build from scrap.

and no offense, eventhough ive been both a security supervisor and a union representative, there bettter be a huge lot of 3% ammonia or 7% HCl before its more of a danger to personnel than to equipment.

was that 2,5% sodium hurensohnoxide or 2,5? and just keep volatile shit out of direct sunlight and in airtight bottles that arent placed above a fire.


Hydroxyl Free Radicals by Hunter S. Nodson - Thu, 25 May 2017 14:43:57 EST ID:+41/TUGa No.78663 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm currently using kratom to isolate its alkaloids via oxidation > extraction and am starting to get concerned of possible byproducts of my reaction. I am not using lab grade glassware for the first steps involving oxidation with H2O2.

My main concern, is it possible for free radicals to form and possible trace amounts of metals in my final product. I'm basically soaking the kratom in H2O2 and agitating on low heat with small amounts of citric acid added, then that is continued until the material is almost completely dry where I'm assuming the leftover liquid is water since the H2O2 oxidizes the mitragynine and 7-OHM into mitragynine pseudoindoxyl. Can anyone experienced in organic chemistry help me out with this?

We only use cold water for the extraction of the oxidized kratom material so that isn't much of a concern as much as using metal pots and pans during the actual oxidation process. Should I be concerned of consuming free radicals once fully evaporated? Are there any possible byproducts that can form from doing this?

Thanks a ton and excuse my ignorance in chemistry, I don't know shit besides what I learned in highschool and my current research onto this topic.

The pic attached is the final product after filtration of the initial oxidized material through cold water into 5 then 1 micron filters then finally evaporated at low heat.
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Jenny Gashford - Tue, 30 May 2017 01:03:54 EST ID:UoTssc8h No.78669 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>My main concern, is it possible for free radicals to form and possible trace amounts of metals in my final product. I'm basically soaking the kratom in H2O2 and agitating on low heat with small amounts of citric acid added, then that is continued until the material is almost completely dry where I'm assuming the leftover liquid is water since the H2O2 oxidizes the mitragynine and 7-OHM into mitragynine pseudoindoxyl. Can anyone experienced in organic chemistry help me out with this?
Unless you can find a paper that confirms that this is possible with peroxide, you have no way of knowing whether this works, doesn't do anything, or converts the reactants into something else entirely. Just because mitragynine pseudoindoxyl is a metabolite of mitragynine doesn't necessarily mean you can just use any oxidant to get a clean conversion from one to another. You'll be more likely to succeed if you collect pure mitragynine via acid-base extraction and then oxidize it, probably with something other than peroxide.

>We only use cold water for the extraction of the oxidized kratom material so that isn't much of a concern as much as using metal pots and pans during the actual oxidation process. Should I be concerned of consuming free radicals once fully evaporated? Are there any possible byproducts that can form from doing this?
Free radicals do not persist in solution that long. nothing you can do with 3% peroxide is going to be more toxic than either the leaves or the peroxide solution.

>The pic attached is the final product after filtration of the initial oxidized material through cold water into 5 then 1 micron filters then finally evaporated at low heat.
Unless you added a fuckton of acid it's unlikely that what you have is much different from soaking kratom in water for a long time and then evaporating. Start with an acid-base extraction to get the alkaloid contents of the leaves.
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Hunter S. Nodson - Tue, 30 May 2017 01:32:25 EST ID:5wCuF3rA No.78670 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>78669
there are articles on it, it is documented my man. It takes a few minutes of google and there is plenty on the oxidation of 7-ohm into mitragynine psuedoindoxyl. I'll post it tomorrow when I get a chance though.

thanks for that reassurance, like I said I'm ignorant to this in all aspects and this is a learning experience for me so bare with me. We did though, I got the pH down to 4. As far as the difference between just soaking in water, we've tested it. It does not come out like this at all. The peroxide makes a giant difference. I do understand h2o2 wont oxidize much until the pH is lowered a decent amount.
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Hunter S. Nodson - Tue, 30 May 2017 18:30:19 EST ID:5wCuF3rA No.78671 Ignore Report Quick Reply
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3714104/
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Graham Chunkinham - Thu, 01 Jun 2017 18:15:12 EST ID:UoTssc8h No.78672 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I still highly recommend acid base extraction so you can work with pure reactants rather than trying to oxidize the raw leaves. You have no idea how much oxidant to add because there are thousands of different compounds in the mix all with different oxidation potentials.

Also the paper you posted is an overview of a semisynthesis of mitragynine pseudoindoxyl from something other than mitragynine. I still can't find anything on chemically converting one to the other. Everything i've found so far involves bacterial or fungal metabolism to affect the rearrangement. The way I see it, it is very unlikely that you will be able to produce a sizable amount of pseudoindoxyl with household oxidants. I am kind of curious about this now though so I am still searching.


Stoichiometry a bitch by Nathaniel Blellyway - Fri, 26 May 2017 04:22:42 EST ID:WkWxSK6I No.78664 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Could someone please jog the old memory bank. How in the fuck do you get 1.8×10^(-6) from 2.8x10^(-8) mol × 63.5g mol-1???
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Caroline Drennerwell - Fri, 26 May 2017 13:09:34 EST ID:UyoEcrVg No.78665 Ignore Report Quick Reply
2.8 times 63.5 is 177.8
Move the decimal over a couple places and you get 10^-6 instead of -8
It's rounded to 1.8 because of significant figures.


i'll just leave this here by Betsy Gonkinlot - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 03:58:41 EST ID:6p22FvVe No.78612 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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cf piperine, phenylacetic acid, etc.
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Schepperschop - Sun, 16 Apr 2017 07:54:25 EST ID:xTIigKo1 No.78639 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>78612
how about you get some sesamol instead???
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Rebecca Clapperbare - Mon, 17 Apr 2017 19:51:12 EST ID:6Uohuwu9 No.78640 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>78637
Tungsten costs a few tens of dollars per pound. I was excited to use tungsten instead of ruthenium which is about $50/ounce or indium which is similar. Additionally tungsten is widely used in tools which are OTC whereas runthenium and indium are only used in electronics. About one ounce of tungstic acid is used to cleave 100 grams of piperic acid.

Sesamol is impractical. The content of sesamol in sesame oil is less than 1%. I spent years developing routes from sesamol and felt like an idiot when I realized this.
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Charlotte Hurringchare - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 18:52:15 EST ID:UoTssc8h No.78643 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What about forming the diol with peroxide and base then cleavage with nickel?

This paper shows 1,2-cyclohexanediol can be cleaved to adipic acid just by dumping it in with some bleach and nickel nitrate/acetate: http://pubs.acs.org/doi/abs/10.1021/jo0612574. Theoretically this should yield the aldehyde if the nickel oxidant were instead isolated and the reaction done under anhydrous conditions.
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Polly Dubberhood - Thu, 04 May 2017 18:42:57 EST ID:hBAZGxou No.78647 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i don't think you need any metals actually, just Oxone ( http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0040402014000842 ) and acetonitrile ( https://www.sciencemadness.org/whisper/viewthread.php?tid=11137&page=2 )
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Martin Dicklecocke - Sun, 14 May 2017 10:17:15 EST ID:UoTssc8h No.78651 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Has anyone tried the dithionite reduction of piperinic acid? The source OP cited only has info on reducing acids with aliphatic side chains and I'm thinking that conjugation with the aromatic ring might cause the beta-gamma unsaturated acid to re-arrange to the gamma-delta or otherwise muck something up


Science denialist vent/ rant. by James Mother Fucking Randi - Fri, 31 Jul 2015 04:30:23 EST ID:FW3hqiSI No.76865 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I started a thread on /spooky/ asking for any evidence of the paranormal or supernatural.

Instead all I got was a bunch of personal attack and people babbling nonsense and presenting it as truth. Then when shown they are incorrect with verifiable data rather than pseudoscience they resort to personal attacks again. They and pretty much all other magical thinkers take any sort of challenge to their beliefs as a personal attack.

I was at a party a few months back and some girl was talking about how she went to some yoga guy who does "laying on of hands". Which involves doing yoga while a dude puts his hands on your body and makes weird noises. Supposedly doing this achieves any number of effects from healing wounds, curing depression and other supposed boons.
not arguing the therapeutic effects of yoga just the laying on of hands part
I tried to understand what she was explaining to me by asking questions. Like asking her what was actually happening because it made 0 sense to me. Instead she started insulting me for being closed minded and shit.

Also in real life I live in the US south. Where people who think the world is 6000 years old is the norm.

Needless to say I deal with people who use magical thinking on a regular basis.
They are 100% willing to reap the benefits of science and the technology that comes with it until it conflicts with some myth or story about ghosts or some shit some one told them. Then all reason and logic go out the window.

Why do so many people especially in the us reject verifiable facts over what feels good? I went to the same public schools as them, I was also raised in a religious household (jewish, although I'm no longer religious). The only difference is that I chose the rational answer.
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Isabella Budgesutch - Wed, 07 Oct 2015 23:25:57 EST ID:A9FsJSdZ No.77262 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>77261

Yes it's called the science bible. It's a collection of rantings by Richard Dawkins.

I think Wizard is literally insane. His narcissism is so pronounced he actually believes he has magical powers. He claims he's a "polymath" whatever that means, but cannot figure out that all his claims are based on magical thinking.
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trypto - Sat, 10 Oct 2015 16:30:23 EST ID:VTEeSGZV No.77276 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>77261
Most scientific philosphies or scientifically-oriented epistemology focus on how nothing is ever truly 'proven'. It's a purely skeptical stance, in contrast to mathematics which has actual proofs. This is pretty much the starting point for a deeper understanding of how/why science is successful. Bombastus knows this, which is why he used the quotes here:
> science can "prove" various concrete things.

But he fucked it up with this ambiguous phrase:
>if we're discussing the absolute value of something

Absolute value of something? Who knows what that means. It's just sloppy talk. He's probably talking about the colloquial concept of "proof", but saying shit about "absolute value" gives the opposite impression.

I see what >>77235 is saying, but I also think the phrase "scientifically proven" is acceptable and different from plainly 'proven'. "scientifcally proven" is some confidence past a basic consensus. but the phrase should be avoided for this reason.
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Samuel Pittway - Mon, 12 Oct 2015 15:06:58 EST ID:/dGkbVvd No.77281 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>77276
Since we all know that nothing can be 100% proven, I think the word "proof" can imply an implicit acknowledgement of that fact.
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Reuben Sanderfoot - Tue, 13 Oct 2015 01:26:14 EST ID:uGD5aNS6 No.77282 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>77281
Its more appropriate to just say "indicates" or "we hypothesize".

>>77276
I agree, I just tend to shy away from the word. What happens all the time is the scientific community accepts something in a consensus, only to have that consensus overturned or it falls to more complete models. As you said, just try to keep a healthy dose of skepticism of everything since we are so far away from total understanding of anything, especially in the realm of physiology.
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Samuel Nishson - Thu, 29 Oct 2015 03:51:53 EST ID:A6yjNMdA No.77338 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>I was at a party a few months back and some girl was talking about how she went to some yoga guy who does "laying on of hands". Which involves doing yoga while a dude puts his hands on your body and makes weird noises. Supposedly doing this achieves any number of effects from healing wounds, curing depression and other supposed boons.

She was probably just saying that because she wanted you to be sceptical and then invite her to demonstrate or whatever out of "curiosity" and it would all quickly escalate into sex.

I won't believe a girl could genuinely be that ditzy.


unexplored waters by Frederick Blillyfoot - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 17:42:58 EST ID:UoTssc8h No.78641 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Pretty much any phenol without other more lablie reactive sites can be converted to an allylbenzene (like safrole) via condensation with allyl halide and subsequent aromatic Claisen rearrangement of the allyl phenol ether. From there it's known chemistry to get to an amphetamine derivative. pic related is delta-tocopherol, a form of vitamin E, and it's resulting amphetmaine derivative, which is strikingly similar to the 2C-x's and DOx's. There are literally thousands of easily obtainable phenol-derivatives out there with possibly psychoactive derivative amphetamines. Why has there not been more exploration into this chemical space?


Which Major Least hard by breakabond - Sat, 04 Mar 2017 01:53:55 EST ID:LObRvGV/ No.78585 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Which major requires less chemistry? Because to me, chem always seemed like an endless list of things to memorize: polyatomic ions, acids, bases, electron charges, drawing Lewis-dot diagrams, etc ad nauseum...

  • Neuroscience
  • Pharmacology
  • what else?
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Vehk !7HYGxe5v5c - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 22:39:07 EST ID:l5Akm3J6 No.78600 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>78585
> chemistry
> endless list of things to memorise

as a synthetic organic chemist i am highly triggered

it is literally an art fam
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Hugh Tillingforth - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 06:35:02 EST ID:025IxSqV No.78605 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>78596
500k available CS jobs in the USA an industry that will never have enough people to be (oversaturated) at least in the next 10 years. Maybe web development sure. Any 12 year old with a computer could be a "web dev" CS is literally the highest paying degree you can get right now.
And there will only be higher demand with new technologies like virtual reality. CS really has endless possibilities of application, not to mention you don't need to work for someone, you could always do your own thing, and still make good money, or even freelance. If you do things for the money though you will realize you really really hate what you're doing.

>DId the bare minimum just to get good grades
yeah, most schools CS program are absolutely dog shit
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Fucking Lightham - Wed, 12 Apr 2017 00:30:04 EST ID:roSXguau No.78634 Ignore Report Quick Reply
chem is fun in the lab, did neurosci major because the psych courses were easy, now getting over more into computer science. study what you like tho, you'll have plenty to memorize anyway.
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Samuel Clayfuck - Wed, 12 Apr 2017 03:39:38 EST ID:4tmtdVyg No.78635 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>78597

Weed helped me learn calculus II somehow.
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Esther Drandlegold - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 13:01:09 EST ID:q+gC2Vuv No.78636 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Neuroscience probably has less chemistry but both of those majors are pretty heavy memorization. You will have to memorize drug/metabolic pathways. At least in chemistry there is an internal logic to it once you get the basics down, but with molecular pathways it's almost senseless memorization with having to know all the different (often randomly named) parts and how they interact with each other.


What testing could be done on RCs ordered online? by Eugene Wozzleford - Mon, 09 Nov 2015 17:25:34 EST ID:NUJLhhhW No.77357 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So, I found a clearnet source for both Etizolam and Clon, but then upon checkout, this shit comes up:

>We will need a detailed account of your research methodology though before shipping any order. This an include how you will be utilizing the chemicals, what equipment is used, anticipated results, etc.

What is some things I can say? Obviously they know people are just ingesting them, yet they still have the disclaimer for Not For Human Consumption. That's fine.

But I've never seen this type of bullzhit.

anyone a science student or chemistry student or actual chemist or anything? I know some people say they can test for purity of the drugs. What would be used for that? Some type of ethanol, beakers, syringes, etc?

Thanks.
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Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Fri, 24 Feb 2017 01:41:57 EST ID:Req4jw5M No.78583 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>78582
around the molecules themselves that will be testing the reactions and the molecules are irrelevant and will be stored longterm over a while. However, due tot he nature of the reactions being potentially patent pending, we cannot divulge into specifics.
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Green Fox - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 02:16:52 EST ID:7S/32W3t No.78604 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>77358

This.
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Fanny Nucklelune - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 11:52:55 EST ID:NiKHAkYF No.78613 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>78583
>we cannot divulge into specifics.
Excellently worded. You'll be fine.
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Phineas Gaffingcocke - Mon, 10 Apr 2017 00:00:59 EST ID:n/Fuk2xx No.78631 Ignore Report Quick Reply
what are you trying to do?
make Oxycontin?
I really wouldn't recommend that.
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Fucking Lightham - Wed, 12 Apr 2017 00:22:40 EST ID:roSXguau No.78633 Ignore Report Quick Reply
it's for zapping labrats, read and cite some research papers.


A/B xtract. Blood interaction. by Angus Povinghood - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 22:23:54 EST ID:LObRvGV/ No.78627 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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If you did an A/B on a bunch of used cottons with some blood in the mix as well, what would the blood do if you add base->non-polar extract->add acid to neutralize.

Or wait, now I forget... ^ that sounds like "B/A'... if you're starting with traces of heroin-hcl leftover, then you would start with the base, riiiight....

P.S. check out your
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folder for some cringey streamer shit.


Retrosynthesis by Emma Giddleridge - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 05:17:10 EST ID:kVxUxljq No.78621 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey guys, it's been awhile since I've studied Ochem (3 years now) and I'm pretty rusty. Thought I'd give retrosynthesis a crack but I'm seriously struggling with this kinda molecule.

I know my retrosynthesis probably looks dumb because as I said, I'm super rusty. Can anyone point me in the right direction please?
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press - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 07:15:23 EST ID:Jirf0CGs No.78624 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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what are your criteria for starting molecules?
if you go with B i think that deprotonating acetylacetone, which can be made via the claisen condensation of ethylethanoate and acetone, and then jamming that on 4-"something"hexan-1-ol would work if you the something is a good leaving group, like a trimetyl ammonium thingy for example.
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Charles Gillerbot - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 20:55:35 EST ID:kVxUxljq No.78626 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>78624
the only real criteria is that it should be able to be done in the least amount of steps with commercially affordable reactants (which i guess is the point of retrosynthesis)

i'll give that a go, cheers!


N2O Synthesis by Charlotte Gozzlefoot - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 08:00:40 EST ID:fDi3lCXD No.78519 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey guys, whippets can get expensive. Does anyone synthesize their own N2O at home/do you have a favorite method of doing so?
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Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 14:32:07 EST ID:LbDw3v+C No.78611 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>78609
No. You told me you were searching for a job a while back and I remembered and decided to ask since I miss you here...

I post at work all the time while waiting for refluxes or filtrations.

If you come to Canada, the weed chemistry jobs are booming here. Might be worth looking into if you're a yuropoor.
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Jarvis Supperforth - Wed, 29 Mar 2017 01:33:56 EST ID:7S/32W3t No.78614 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>78611

Yeah I live in Canada. There is a big fed place that does that here looking for people. Seems like kind of a heavy place to work tbh.
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Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Thu, 30 Mar 2017 19:31:30 EST ID:9aybb3lV No.78615 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>78614
why'd you delete your science madness account?
fucc i was gonna offer you a part time contracting thing there. reactivate bls.
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Frederick Craggleford - Sat, 01 Apr 2017 00:20:06 EST ID:ig6EEMwa No.78618 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>78615
>Taking a job from a tripfag ever
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Augustus Blackcocke - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 14:29:58 EST ID:1YWXh+i8 No.78625 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm sure the gas would get cheaper than whippets in cylinder form.


subject by Esther Peckleson - Fri, 31 Mar 2017 00:52:19 EST ID:8Bqb2ojy No.78616 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>hehe yeh bro meth is super simple to make just shake and bake my dude heh
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Frederick Craggleford - Sat, 01 Apr 2017 00:19:30 EST ID:ig6EEMwa No.78617 Ignore Report Quick Reply
you're horrible and you should feel bad. this is a fucking horrible thread
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Phoebe Sirrychure - Mon, 03 Apr 2017 10:15:19 EST ID:EIxfsVdq No.78619 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The synth of SES is wrong, the synth of nitroethane doesn't work without a nitrite inhibitor (to prevent decomposition), the reductive amination is missing a reducing agent (often this would be aluminum foil) and also uses way many solvents which are all wrong because they're not methanol, the reduction of P2NP to P2P is missing and not trivial, metallic mercury will not react with hydrochloric acid, and furthermore, Esther, everyone who knows what they're doing already switched to styrene >> PAA based routes
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Hannah Hublingsatch - Mon, 03 Apr 2017 22:51:52 EST ID:KtEKcIRL No.78620 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i never even thought about making the nitroethane before lolwut
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press - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 06:46:51 EST ID:Jirf0CGs No.78623 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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your image doesnt even include any routes using ephedrine so i dont see the point of being pissed at shake n bake.

sorry you wasted dozens of hours in ms paint.


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