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Heavenly Blue extraction by Reuben Husslecocke - Thu, 21 Aug 2014 11:18:37 EST ID:Fp629YXI No.75173 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm trying to extract the LSA from heavenly blue morning glory seeds. Normally what I do is:
1: Rinse in Sunnyside brand acetone to get all the non-polar crap out
2: filter and throw away the loaded acetone; keep the grounds
3: Rinse in Mr. Boston brand vodka to get all of the LSA out
4: filter and throw away the seed grounds
5: I should have LSA loaded vodka here
6: boil off the vodka, keep the gunk (resin? oil?)
7: dissolve gunk in water
8: drink & trip

I've read somewhere that I can do an acid-base extraction. I'm supposed to add a weak acid to the product while it's still in the vodka, and the liquid should separate into two phases.
I tried using Il Primo brand vinegar (5% acidity) and my vinigar/vodka/lsa did not seem to separate itself.

The questions:
A: What should I be using for an acid? Is 5% acidity vinegar too weak? Do I have to freeze the mixture to get it to separate?
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Reuben Husslecocke - Thu, 21 Aug 2014 11:22:18 EST ID:Fp629YXI No.75174 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Another question:
I use bleached coffee filters. Should I use unbleached? Would switching to filter paper make a big difference?
Fanny Bibberstet - Thu, 21 Aug 2014 23:27:12 EST ID:EA5Lt1tg No.75180 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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you need to defat before you freebase you can't extract with vodka if the stuff is stuck in the seed goop. ..

Also unless you get a crystaline material I doubt you will actually be consuming Ergine. if there was a widespread way to make lots of this stuff people would have done it long ago and there would be as good of TEKS for it as there are for pseudo pills, DXM, CwE's for pills, mescaline extracts... but I have never seen an "LSA extraction" from seeds that didn't sound like total bullshit

and most peoples "I washed it with 500cc's of koolaid and kepts the polar layer and went on 40 trips and it metablozied to dxm in vivro and I saw jesus as a moonwalking t rex" I fucking highly doubt that too.

The shit like albert hoffman INJECTING the stuff and getting effects yeah I will believe that. not these shitty A/B's
Cedric Fuckingfoot - Fri, 22 Aug 2014 00:05:13 EST ID:Fp629YXI No.75181 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I've done a lot of grind it up in vodka, filter and drink. It's pretty weaksauce, but it does work.
Cedric Fuckingfoot - Fri, 22 Aug 2014 00:07:18 EST ID:Fp629YXI No.75182 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Veins of crystals definitely form in the gunk I get. Does that count?
Ernest Gennerfield - Wed, 27 Aug 2014 14:11:33 EST ID:FywAGpau No.75243 Report Quick Reply
this thread makes my legs hurt and i wanna puke

What is inside this thing? by Ernest Gennerfield - Wed, 27 Aug 2014 14:03:02 EST ID:FywAGpau No.75242 Report Reply Quick Reply
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thermite by rupert - Mon, 16 Jun 2014 19:34:35 EST ID:F9TnC2au No.74860 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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how can you make thermite
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Matilda Fuvingwurk - Thu, 26 Jun 2014 21:49:12 EST ID:moGduXXp No.74884 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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You would have to powder it though a chemical process to get the finest grains possible, plus that would remove any contaminants. Not to mention could be done on a larger scale than grinding a can. I dont know why you would use aluminum cans in the first place, pure aluminum isnt that expensive and could be done in cash. Also you can by aluminum powder and Iron (III) oxide off the internet.
Nigel Semmersick - Fri, 04 Jul 2014 19:12:33 EST ID:Gz2TO7EA No.74930 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Also you can by aluminum powder and Iron (III) oxide off the internet

yeah but enjoy being on an NSA blacklist henceforth
Doris Fezzlehood - Mon, 25 Aug 2014 22:49:43 EST ID:oFx1SQoH No.75218 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You need an echascetch, some rust, and a metal pencil sharpener.
Betsy Blivingfick - Wed, 27 Aug 2014 08:07:15 EST ID:YpPGmVap No.75226 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Links are broken.
Also, why would you ever support unitednuclear with their gougey prices and sub-par equipment?
Shitting Fanville - Wed, 27 Aug 2014 10:17:33 EST ID:ZlFYavHj No.75232 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Because Matilda likes the idea of supporting some crazy dude in the desert selling uranium. Also, he says he will only give over customer data when there's a court order (not that it's hard to get). I've never bought anything from them, but it's a cool site.

psychoactive extraction from tar by Graham Sablingham - Mon, 18 Aug 2014 15:14:27 EST ID:eCMKrD3b No.75157 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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hello, i come from /weed/ in need of science

it's no secret that smoking the resin out of a marijuana pipe can produce a psychoactive high. that being said, one would still have to recombust already combusted material in order to do so, which cannot be good for the lungs.

i recently accumulated, and even more recently gifted, a huge two-gram ball of resin from a downstem on my littlebong; pic related. this downstem has no physical contact with the water of the pipe, it slides in to another female piece that would be the "actual" downstem, so i guess you could say i extracted it from a bowlpiece in close proximity to water. it was moist, but no mold was smelt or visually observed and it took a good few month to accumulate that rez

is there any possible way to further extract the psychoactives from a ball of rez like this? should i soak the rez in Xml of ethanol and remove the solids after a few weeks or will it all simply dissolve and defeat my purpose? i basically want all the goodies without all that black and i'm definitely no /chem/ist, but i'm open to ideas or suggestions. since i don't have the aforementioned sick ball any longer, any real experiments probably won't take place until the downstem is totally full again

any experience/thoughts?
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Lillian Brizzlewine - Wed, 20 Aug 2014 04:37:19 EST ID:M9lXRP55 No.75168 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'd start by dissolving in ethanol, or ether if you have it. Then grind/blend the slurry for a while in a mortar, and microfilter. Perform that three times, then evaporate the filtrate.
Polly Hellerfoot - Fri, 22 Aug 2014 19:05:01 EST ID:301irInh No.75188 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>which cannot be good for the lungs.
Well of course it's not, but then smoking anything isn't good for you
Martha Fallersteg - Tue, 26 Aug 2014 13:23:55 EST ID:jT7fq96n No.75219 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Treat it like trim or stems and make some edibles. I'm sure it has some THC-A already in it but it probably wouldn't hurt to bake for a few minutes at low heat (no more than 325 F), stir that shit in with some edible non-polar solvent ie melted butter, ethanol.
Nathaniel Gopperworth - Tue, 26 Aug 2014 14:55:43 EST ID:YpPGmVap No.75221 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Ofc. I'd like to point out that the nasty aromatic compounds which are plentiful in tar/resin are most of the compounds which give smokers cancer. A good example is benzene, and other polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons like the one pictured; the entire molecule is planar (sp2 carbons) and as a result is basically a pair of p orbitals thin. This basically acts as a molecular 'blade' which slices through larger biological molecules, in particular DNA.
Shitting Fanville - Tue, 26 Aug 2014 21:22:13 EST ID:ZlFYavHj No.75222 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Fun fact: that's non-planar in the excited states. It twists a bit.

swarm theory/inteligence by Matilda Smallham - Thu, 21 Aug 2014 06:32:00 EST ID:pxU3vo2o No.75171 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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im sure youve heard of it
does anyone have any links about the topic? actual scientific papers and the like. much of it is just david attenborough showing us how amazing starlings are but does someone have a good list of scientific literature or the names of those in the field?
posting this on /math/ too.
driven !FTPgBqDDy. - Sat, 23 Aug 2014 20:18:44 EST ID:A+LmGIsc No.75207 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Try the book Signs of Life: How Complexity Pervades Biology

The Beechams Paracetamol extraction probability examination investigation enquiry commission. by Doris Bardgold - Fri, 22 Aug 2014 07:41:57 EST ID:AS0/THRQ No.75183 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I quit drinking recently. Heavy, regular, long lasting drinking. Yes, I'm hardcore.
I hate paracetamol/acetaminophen. It's poison and can't be trusted near my :( liver.
I've been sniffing stuff and now I'm congested. My only helpful meds contain poison.
Would a cold water extraction remove the poison but keep the decongestant?

Information on meds to come shortly.
Doris Bardgold - Fri, 22 Aug 2014 07:43:57 EST ID:AS0/THRQ No.75184 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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1 x 6.4 g sachet contains paracetamol 1000mg, ascorbic acid (vitamin C) 40mg and phenylephrine hydrochloride 10mg. Also includes sucrose and sodium.

Solubility in water of active ingredients.
Paracetamol: 12.78 mg/mL (20 °C)
Phenylephrine: ≥10 g/100 mL (21 ºC)
Ascorbic acid: 330 g/1000mL (20 ºC)***

***No ºC info. Assuming 20 ºC.
Nell Blegglewere - Fri, 22 Aug 2014 12:20:48 EST ID:ZlFYavHj No.75185 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just buy something with pseudoephedrine. It's much more effective than that phenylephrine shit. You'll have to show an ID in the states.

Seriously, phenylephrine borders on placebo. Pseudoephedrine is king.
Nell Blegglewere - Fri, 22 Aug 2014 12:22:18 EST ID:ZlFYavHj No.75186 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh yeah, and psudofed doesn't contain paracetamol. And it's behind the counter at drug store, though you don't need a prescription. Just an ID.

CAN MMS CURE ALMOST EVERYTHING? by Caroline Geckleworth - Thu, 21 Aug 2014 21:50:38 EST ID:7hwckG5L No.75175 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What do you think? Is it a scam?
Caroline Geckleworth - Thu, 21 Aug 2014 21:58:09 EST ID:7hwckG5L No.75176 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Who the fuck is Caroline Geckleworth?
Esther Bedgeston - Thu, 21 Aug 2014 22:36:23 EST ID:uGD5aNS6 No.75177 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Highly doubtful. If it did, where's the proof it works other than testimonial? Where's the data, biochemical analysis of its mechanisms of action?
Caroline Geckleworth - Thu, 21 Aug 2014 22:50:17 EST ID:7hwckG5L No.75179 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I agree with you. I jush had to ask because I am doing research for my family. Thank you.

What bubbles by Jar Jar Binks - Mon, 18 Aug 2014 22:21:45 EST ID:3g7m985r No.75161 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Under what conditions of temperature and pressure and air current, would a gaseous membrane (a bubble) be stable? Give maxima and minima for each. You may specify the film composition (it must at least be a fluid), as long as your answer is accurate to that choice.
Caroline Ballerpine - Mon, 18 Aug 2014 22:52:36 EST ID:yUVBjPXX No.75163 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You're talking about bubbles like you blow with loops, right?

Define "stable". Would you consider standard soap bubbles stable?

Air pressure probably wouldn't matter, since it's about the same on the inside as the outside. Temperature probably only plays a role at extremes. Air current is very general.

Why are you asking?
Lillian Brizzlewine - Wed, 20 Aug 2014 04:44:26 EST ID:M9lXRP55 No.75169 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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It's obviously a homework question. They want you to talk about the young-laplace equation for a curved surface and what it explains.

FYI, pressure inside a bubble has to be higher than outside for it to form.

One electron reduction = SN1 ? by Nigel Casslespear - Tue, 19 Aug 2014 14:19:10 EST ID:ewV2Hjx4 No.75165 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hi, I am on caffeine.

And this is my question:
If there's a Birch reduction like in this picture and it says it'S a one electron transmitting mechanism, does it mean it's SN1 mechanism?

Also, I want to be so rich I can retire early enough to pursue a life of academic and athletic enlightment.
And sex, lots and lots of blue ball releasing sex.

Thank you for your time.
Lillian Brizzlewine - Wed, 20 Aug 2014 04:24:57 EST ID:M9lXRP55 No.75166 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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No. A single electron reaction implies the formation of radical species.

The wikipedia article has surprisingly useful mechanism:
Lillian Brizzlewine - Wed, 20 Aug 2014 04:32:48 EST ID:M9lXRP55 No.75167 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also, dunno about the wealth, but chemists are the best kind of people, so become one.

Write about this by Whitey Sundleledge - Wed, 29 Jan 2014 20:48:09 EST ID:0U4EtD3b No.74116 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Write a short essay on this quote and discuss your own thoughts as to why

Human population growth is the most important issue in environmental science.
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Basil Ficklewater - Thu, 30 Jan 2014 01:37:09 EST ID:ZXl1qmAy No.74122 Ignore Report Quick Reply
if we're going to get all speculative and predictive, then I'd say a more important factor is the sun's eventual death
Barnaby Grimcocke - Thu, 30 Jan 2014 05:18:17 EST ID:kRfabX+u No.74123 Ignore Report Quick Reply

bye bitch
Beatrice Crusslefuck - Thu, 30 Jan 2014 22:25:01 EST ID:f0IUAo3s No.74138 Ignore Report Quick Reply
nothing is "The most important" everything is approximately equally important in science because it's all interlaced, interconnected, and interdependent. only polymaths will understand this, and eventually polymaths will become the norm.
A Piece of Charbroil'd Ham - Sat, 19 Jul 2014 15:43:51 EST ID:FQs6jfeo No.75035 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'd argue it's the cause of all of our issues. When we were just a few thousand monkey fuckers chilling in Africa we were stable. We could have probably gone on like that til a meteor hit earth or some other shit like that. It's the reason there isn't enough food and we're destroying the environment to squeeze out as much nutrition/resources as possible.
That said now we can deflect asteroids, have LSD and lots of interesting foods so I can't say it's all bad.
Hamilton Chegglewune - Sat, 09 Aug 2014 16:06:09 EST ID:sHP8aDEl No.75136 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Go read some sci-fi with singularities, or even some short stories, faggot. Maybe then you'll be able to do your own storytelling. Because that's what human beings ever did.

(M)ethylphenidate by Rebecca Fubberdale - Wed, 06 Aug 2014 02:45:02 EST ID:KTpmMq3U No.75126 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What process turns ethylphenidate in to methylphenidate and why isn't it done more? I am not interested in doing so myself, but I was confused as to why I can't find info on this given that ethylphenidate is so cheap and methylphenidate is so expensive.
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Ian Giblingdock - Wed, 06 Aug 2014 11:48:03 EST ID:uGD5aNS6 No.75128 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>acetic anhydride is readily available
dude I wouldn't say its readily available by any means. Its used to make heroin, the FDA and the DEA tightly control AA, though it is available in chem labs and such. I've used it before
Reuben Tillingbanks - Wed, 06 Aug 2014 16:41:28 EST ID:wyS1iFUE No.75130 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Good point. And I did overstate how "methylating agents" are tightly controlled.

After looking on wikipedia, I have a new conclusion. METHYLphenidate is an explicitly controlled substance (schedule II). ETHYLphenidate is in a grey area. It's probably illegal thanks to the analog drugs act, but until a court case proves that, it's still somewhat less risky to make than methylphenidate.

Also, the wiki says the last methylating step is just done with HCl and MeOH. So I was waaay wrong.
Molly Deckleman - Wed, 06 Aug 2014 22:41:39 EST ID:oFx1SQoH No.75131 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The conversion should be really easy. The conversion between the two is a basic acid catalyzed Transesterification reaction.
You might only need methanol and sulfuric acid.
The basic procedure would be something like put ethylphenidate in methanol. Then add sulfuric acid. Heat it up for a few hours. Evaporate off all of the methanol. Then purify it through recrystallization with ethanol (this is a good way to wash off the methanol which is poisonous). The conversion wont be 100% but more like 95%. you could separate it via flash column if you really cared a lot.
Doris Noblingdat - Thu, 07 Aug 2014 03:40:18 EST ID:KTpmMq3U No.75133 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thanks for the info, but I was interested in why people aren't turning ethylphenidate (Legal RC in EU) in to methylphenidate (prescription only, illegal without.)
Thanks, interesting and informative.
Wesley Dadgehadge - Fri, 08 Aug 2014 23:57:03 EST ID:uGD5aNS6 No.75135 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Could be just an availability of reactant. Maybe one reactant, used to make the methyl version, isn't available or tightly regulated, and the ethyl version is easier to get. Maybe its a legal grey area, as you said, and its a semi-legit business making it because its less controlled. And if someone catches on, less likely anything will happen to them, and they can just stop making it, and are good to go.

I know with the Analogue Laws in the US, they are regulated federally. Drug enforcement on a state level is carried out according to that state's laws. For instance, in my state of massachusetts, I think there are quite a few of the 2C-x compounds, possibly even 2C-B, that are not regulated by state law, so technically you couldn't get arrested for their possession, or at least not charged in court. Unless of course they turn it over to a federal prosecuter.

Different G/L Professors by Hugh Pingerpidge - Tue, 08 Jul 2014 14:25:52 EST ID:h7Vvp1UI No.74970 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Sorry, my third term of college... How bad of an idea is it to have a different general chemistry professor and lab professor? Why are labs shown to be scheduled so much longer when they are only one credit. I have no idea what I'm getting myself into. I also had to schedule a lot later classes from all my other classes because the good chemistry time slots were taken. I registered early on one campus but I have to switch campuses due to moving...

>also tfw you have to get special permission to register over 18 credit hours...
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Hugh Pingerpidge - Tue, 08 Jul 2014 17:37:22 EST ID:h7Vvp1UI No.74972 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Heh. My lab professor has an overall rating of 1.0 on RMP. This will probably be hell. Hopefully something else opens up before. I'll check daily.

A couple student comments:
"A awful teacher. doesnt speak much english but doesnt give preference to hispanic students either. test and quizzes are in broken english. gets mad if you ask questions or dont understand. directions are always unclear- definitely read lab manual before class. I would really try everything in your power to NOT take her."

"Doesn't help in any way and she gets mad when anyone asks for help. Hardly speaks English, even her tests are in broken English. Quizzes are on random chapters rather than what she says there over. Students must teach themselves and double check everything she grades, chances are she marked a right answer wrong. AVOID AT ALL COSTS!!!"
Walter Wollerwedge - Tue, 08 Jul 2014 18:17:10 EST ID:c7PD3ms3 No.74973 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I wouldn't trust professor ratings for intro classes. Most of your learning will be from the book, regardless who the professor is.
Hugh Pingerpidge - Tue, 08 Jul 2014 19:25:14 EST ID:h7Vvp1UI No.74974 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well, it hasn't failed me yet and every review for her was just some rewording of that; not one positive review, Maybe I'm one of the few, but I have rated everyone of my professors. I had two first year professors last year and I'm their only review so far.
Molly Deckleman - Thu, 07 Aug 2014 02:59:24 EST ID:oFx1SQoH No.75132 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I always give my bad professors great reviews because I feel bad that idiots who didn't study, will give him awful reviews. Most people are way to harsh.
Hedda Clucklewill - Thu, 07 Aug 2014 08:32:27 EST ID:+0Ci6TLP No.75134 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>How bad of an idea is it to have a different general chemistry professor and lab professor?
Not bad at all. It's very common to have different teachers for the class and for the lab. Labs have a lot less room than lecture halls, so you need more teachers/labs to compensate.
>Why are labs shown to be scheduled so much longer when they are only one credit.
Lab work takes a lot of time. You have to set up, do your experiment, redo your experiment because you fucked it up, do one thing in the first 5 minutes of the lab and wait half an hour or longer for a reaction to fininish to do the next step only to drop your flask and have to start all over, clean up, tear down your equipment, wait in line for reagents, wait for new reagents to be made by the teacher because someone fucked up and contaminated everything....

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