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What testing could be done on RCs ordered online? by Eugene Wozzleford - Mon, 09 Nov 2015 17:25:34 EST ID:NUJLhhhW No.77357 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So, I found a clearnet source for both Etizolam and Clon, but then upon checkout, this shit comes up:

>We will need a detailed account of your research methodology though before shipping any order. This an include how you will be utilizing the chemicals, what equipment is used, anticipated results, etc.

What is some things I can say? Obviously they know people are just ingesting them, yet they still have the disclaimer for Not For Human Consumption. That's fine.

But I've never seen this type of bullzhit.

anyone a science student or chemistry student or actual chemist or anything? I know some people say they can test for purity of the drugs. What would be used for that? Some type of ethanol, beakers, syringes, etc?

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Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Fri, 24 Feb 2017 01:41:57 EST ID:Req4jw5M No.78583 Ignore Report Quick Reply
around the molecules themselves that will be testing the reactions and the molecules are irrelevant and will be stored longterm over a while. However, due tot he nature of the reactions being potentially patent pending, we cannot divulge into specifics.
Green Fox - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 02:16:52 EST ID:7S/32W3t No.78604 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Fanny Nucklelune - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 11:52:55 EST ID:NiKHAkYF No.78613 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>we cannot divulge into specifics.
Excellently worded. You'll be fine.
Phineas Gaffingcocke - Mon, 10 Apr 2017 00:00:59 EST ID:n/Fuk2xx No.78631 Ignore Report Quick Reply
what are you trying to do?
make Oxycontin?
I really wouldn't recommend that.
Fucking Lightham - Wed, 12 Apr 2017 00:22:40 EST ID:roSXguau No.78633 Ignore Report Quick Reply
it's for zapping labrats, read and cite some research papers.

A/B xtract. Blood interaction. by Angus Povinghood - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 22:23:54 EST ID:LObRvGV/ No.78627 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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If you did an A/B on a bunch of used cottons with some blood in the mix as well, what would the blood do if you add base->non-polar extract->add acid to neutralize.

Or wait, now I forget... ^ that sounds like "B/A'... if you're starting with traces of heroin-hcl leftover, then you would start with the base, riiiight....

P.S. check out your
\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Counter-Strike Global Offensive\csgo\streams
folder for some cringey streamer shit.

Retrosynthesis by Emma Giddleridge - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 05:17:10 EST ID:kVxUxljq No.78621 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey guys, it's been awhile since I've studied Ochem (3 years now) and I'm pretty rusty. Thought I'd give retrosynthesis a crack but I'm seriously struggling with this kinda molecule.

I know my retrosynthesis probably looks dumb because as I said, I'm super rusty. Can anyone point me in the right direction please?
press - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 07:15:23 EST ID:Jirf0CGs No.78624 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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what are your criteria for starting molecules?
if you go with B i think that deprotonating acetylacetone, which can be made via the claisen condensation of ethylethanoate and acetone, and then jamming that on 4-"something"hexan-1-ol would work if you the something is a good leaving group, like a trimetyl ammonium thingy for example.
Charles Gillerbot - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 20:55:35 EST ID:kVxUxljq No.78626 Ignore Report Quick Reply
the only real criteria is that it should be able to be done in the least amount of steps with commercially affordable reactants (which i guess is the point of retrosynthesis)

i'll give that a go, cheers!

N2O Synthesis by Charlotte Gozzlefoot - Fri, 03 Feb 2017 08:00:40 EST ID:fDi3lCXD No.78519 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey guys, whippets can get expensive. Does anyone synthesize their own N2O at home/do you have a favorite method of doing so?
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Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Sat, 25 Mar 2017 14:32:07 EST ID:LbDw3v+C No.78611 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No. You told me you were searching for a job a while back and I remembered and decided to ask since I miss you here...

I post at work all the time while waiting for refluxes or filtrations.

If you come to Canada, the weed chemistry jobs are booming here. Might be worth looking into if you're a yuropoor.
Jarvis Supperforth - Wed, 29 Mar 2017 01:33:56 EST ID:7S/32W3t No.78614 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Yeah I live in Canada. There is a big fed place that does that here looking for people. Seems like kind of a heavy place to work tbh.
Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Thu, 30 Mar 2017 19:31:30 EST ID:9aybb3lV No.78615 Ignore Report Quick Reply
why'd you delete your science madness account?
fucc i was gonna offer you a part time contracting thing there. reactivate bls.
Frederick Craggleford - Sat, 01 Apr 2017 00:20:06 EST ID:ig6EEMwa No.78618 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Taking a job from a tripfag ever
Augustus Blackcocke - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 14:29:58 EST ID:1YWXh+i8 No.78625 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm sure the gas would get cheaper than whippets in cylinder form.

subject by Esther Peckleson - Fri, 31 Mar 2017 00:52:19 EST ID:8Bqb2ojy No.78616 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>hehe yeh bro meth is super simple to make just shake and bake my dude heh
Frederick Craggleford - Sat, 01 Apr 2017 00:19:30 EST ID:ig6EEMwa No.78617 Ignore Report Quick Reply
you're horrible and you should feel bad. this is a fucking horrible thread
Phoebe Sirrychure - Mon, 03 Apr 2017 10:15:19 EST ID:EIxfsVdq No.78619 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The synth of SES is wrong, the synth of nitroethane doesn't work without a nitrite inhibitor (to prevent decomposition), the reductive amination is missing a reducing agent (often this would be aluminum foil) and also uses way many solvents which are all wrong because they're not methanol, the reduction of P2NP to P2P is missing and not trivial, metallic mercury will not react with hydrochloric acid, and furthermore, Esther, everyone who knows what they're doing already switched to styrene >> PAA based routes
Hannah Hublingsatch - Mon, 03 Apr 2017 22:51:52 EST ID:KtEKcIRL No.78620 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i never even thought about making the nitroethane before lolwut
press - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 06:46:51 EST ID:Jirf0CGs No.78623 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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your image doesnt even include any routes using ephedrine so i dont see the point of being pissed at shake n bake.

sorry you wasted dozens of hours in ms paint.

Purity Testing GCMS HPLC etc Question by breakabond - Tue, 28 Feb 2017 08:07:46 EST ID:LObRvGV/ No.78584 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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This is an email I sent out, but feel free to take a whack at it.

From the given information on the FAQ:
>Then we perform a qualitative analysis on each component identified where possible,
>comparing each substance with a pure reference standard.
>Our results directly provide the result of the salt of the substance, as we’re
>using a salt as a reference standard. The quantitative results are provided using
>a calibration curve from a reference standard.

as well as the techniques listed here https://energycontrol-international.org/drug-testing-service
It seems that almost all of those techniques can be used to generate a quantitative purity result, e.g. GCMS, LCMS, HPLC, UV/Vis.

So can you try to fill in the blanks here for me?

Generate pure quantitative result based on reference standard.
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breakabond - Sun, 05 Mar 2017 13:10:32 EST ID:LObRvGV/ No.78591 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Its energycontrol, they charge 60 for % then $80 for pdf report (like wtf man9
trypto - Mon, 06 Mar 2017 00:52:16 EST ID:ltcKYWSL No.78592 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That sucks. So it's drugs made from a lab that's not trustworthy, and totally opaque... tested by a lab that a bit trustworthy and a bit translucent... Inconsistency is inevitable.

Vehk !7HYGxe5v5c - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 22:49:59 EST ID:l5Akm3J6 No.78601 Ignore Report Quick Reply

The compound in the bottom right is incorrectly labelled. The compound pictured is methadone, while it is labelled as methedrone, which is a methcathinone and related to mephedrone.

Step up, fam.
Walter Goodwater - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 21:31:37 EST ID:ZUVcy1Vx No.78607 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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A reference standard is a documented, authentic sample of the chemical you are looking to analyse for.

You dilute the reference standard in solvent at a range of concentrations, generally 5 different conc. are used for a good calibration curve.

You set up the instrument (GC/MS/HPLC/UV ect.) and inject each of those 5 standards you prepared.

The plot of detector response (peak area) as a function of each standard concentration should be roughly linear, fit a least squares line and use the equation of that line to calculate the amount of analyte in your test sample based on the peak area it gives.
Walter Goodwater - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 21:34:39 EST ID:ZUVcy1Vx No.78608 Ignore Report Quick Reply

this process is not nearly as simple as it sounds.

if you really want to test the lab's accuracy weight out a decent sized sample of a compound (~500 mg) and grind it well, then submit two samples of the same grind. They should be within 10% or so of each other

How to creat Oxygen (O2) by Commander Preppy - Fri, 27 Jan 2017 13:36:17 EST ID:MuFe+5ez No.78510 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Let's say you're in Syria in an ai-tight room and there's poison gas detonated. What simple household materials could you use to synthesize oxygen? Is it possible to use rust as a source for instance?
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Press - Tue, 14 Feb 2017 15:49:20 EST ID:9DUR15Uh No.78529 Ignore Report Quick Reply
We have a winner.
Acaelus - Wed, 15 Feb 2017 01:33:18 EST ID:vl5gPJeC No.78531 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Its called eletrolysis
Nicholas Biggleforth - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 08:48:55 EST ID:WYa1y06F No.78535 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Wouldn't that just end in you dying from oxygen poisoning?
Hugh Trotspear - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 11:46:56 EST ID:Lx3qHXrW No.78595 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Get some dry D cells. Take out the magnesium dioxide
Get some Hydrogen Peroxide
Capture the bubbles
Green Fox - Thu, 16 Mar 2017 02:06:12 EST ID:7S/32W3t No.78602 Ignore Report Quick Reply

You mean manganese dioxide.

The most dangerous weapon in the world, hiding in plain sight. by Graham Wellypat - Fri, 10 Mar 2017 20:09:22 EST ID:zYI/8bOR No.78598 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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This is not a drill.
>cell phone towers are weaponized death rays ready to nuke the planet or act collectively as a super powerful HAARP-like machine.
>Orgonite converts harmful rays into healthful ones, and can be "gifted" near cellphone towers to negate the effects. The larger ones make chemtrails harmlessly dissipate.
**btw Wilhelm Reich is a notable person related to this topic.**
Cornelius Nammerfield - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 15:23:18 EST ID:4tmtdVyg No.78599 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Looks cool tho
Caroline Bomblestig - Sun, 09 Apr 2017 13:26:37 EST ID:E07OVtj0 No.78629 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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u wut?

I would like to know more by Cornelius Sinnerfut - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 11:05:12 EST ID:tYqZ8S2V No.78537 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Is powdering a carpet with Borax a good way to kill carpet beetles without killing the occupying human?
William Bocklewell - Wed, 22 Feb 2017 12:29:43 EST ID:4tmtdVyg No.78538 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've used borax to assassinate the ant queen(s) before.

Mix it 1/3 parts borax, 1/3 part sugar, 1/3 part hot water. Let it cool then let the sugar solution sit out in a flat dish or something. I dunno if beetles are as sensitive to borax, but I'm sure they don't have a processing method for borax.
Angus Wiblingdock - Mon, 06 Mar 2017 16:37:04 EST ID:Ja2fAPPl No.78594 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Borax will kill the bugs but any eggs they leave behind will be spared. You'll have to continuously reapply over months to get rid of all of them.

Vaping Safety Questions by breakabond - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 04:15:28 EST ID:LObRvGV/ No.78523 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm going to describe a process and ask some questions at the end (though any helpful feedback is good)

  1. heroin dissolved in isopropyl alcohol
  2. baking soda added
  3. caffeine about 1:1 to lower MP
  4. iso evaporated onto foil

The end result way too baking soda and some went into my throat in scalding liquid form. Good thing heroin kills pain.

  • what's that called when two substances are mixed to create a lower boiling point?
  • Is it safe to vape that baking soda?
  • If I used soda ash, would it be safe to vape that too?
  • any recommendations?
breakabond - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 04:20:53 EST ID:LObRvGV/ No.78524 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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  • would acetone be better?
  • is caffeine soluble in acetone?
  • what about heroin?
  • what about baking soda?
Press - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 17:17:30 EST ID:vUcWj3D5 No.78525 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Its called freezing point depression. Pretty cool shit, back inna days people determined purity and molecular weight with that effect.

Vaping either baking powder or any inorganic nontoxic base wont be a problem unless you inhale too hard.

Concerning the solvent, just look for the swg drugs heroin dossier( guess thats what your chart is based on?) or someother tables to check which solvent is useable for both the HCl and the freebase. You dont have to add the caffeine while thd h is still is in solution as long as you mix it thoroughly

Id recommend using as little solvent as possible while not slowing the dissolution of the base down too much and installing gentoo just to be safe
breakabond - Wed, 08 Feb 2017 00:27:51 EST ID:LObRvGV/ No.78526 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That chart is from the swdrug. We dont have acetone solubiltiy info afaik then. ill stick with IPA

How much Sodium Carbonate -> basify by breakabond !!D0XjIgKF - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 01:17:05 EST ID:zsw9I8fO No.78484 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How much sodium carbonate would convert 1 molecule of Heroin HCl, or wait, would it be Acetate, yeah.
How much sodium carbonate 1 molecule Heroin acetate -> Heroin base.
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Oliver Fanforth - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 01:21:46 EST ID:LObRvGV/ No.78495 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oliver Fanforth - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 01:22:27 EST ID:LObRvGV/ No.78496 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh deprotofication? Is that the word?
Been 2 years since chem 2, still got it!
Oliver Fanforth - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 01:24:46 EST ID:LObRvGV/ No.78497 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Okay so the solution to avoiding the accidental morphine production then is to perhaps use a weaker base (is ammonia weaker? maybe just baking soda) and quickly extract it afterwards?
Bombastus !uYErosQbLM!!Mybq1UbK - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 01:34:48 EST ID:Req4jw5M No.78498 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Deprotection. Sorry, I was /benz/ed as shit when I decided to legitpost on a few boards. I mean, the information is still good.
Fuck I should teach more when I'm benzed no i really shouldn't

No. You use as little water as possible with an ice bath and then do a vacuum filtration when the freebase precipitates. I don't see why an extraction after freebasing wouldn't work. However, I don't really work with that stuff as much and have no idea if it acts like morphine chemically (it shouldn't due to no active OH groups). Alternatively, You could do the boil down and then acetylate the morphine back into diamorphine.

I'm too chemical, though. I would look up conversion between #3 and #4 or whatever on the internet. Homebaking is much easier than what I would do.
breakabond - Tue, 07 Feb 2017 01:18:50 EST ID:LObRvGV/ No.78522 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So I used sodium carbonate super-saturated (pH was ~10-11) then added some heroin salt -> tried using hexane to extract it -> evaporated.
Evaporating is always the worst step for me, because unless you're doing a massive batch, you end up with such a small amount of freebase residue, so for max efficiency I try to evaporate directly onto foil, which means I try to make a wide dish out of foil, which often ends up breaking and leaking all over my desk, BUT when it does work Im able to vape right off that foil. The alternative would be to put it solid container, but there's ALWAYS some waste when you try to scrape it all up.

So did it get me high? barely. Not enough. Wasteful.

Changing Carbon to Silicon for new life by Frigate - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 17:41:29 EST ID:B2LKOBQC No.78499 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So me and this girl on one of my classes had come up with substituting Carbon for Silicon that we could get a new form of life, but one of our teachers said it was unbalanced. What does she mean?
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Press - Wed, 25 Jan 2017 16:24:58 EST ID:uHygcoWK No.78503 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Si has a lower electronegativity which is one way of explaining that Si- bonds with certain elements behave quite different that C- bonds. Alkanes are quite unrractive whereas silanes react rapidly with water for example.

Another example of sadly untrue hypothesis about xenobiology is arsenic using rna analogues. Sadly arsenic acid esters cant substitute phosphoric acid in neither rna nor energy transport systems because they hydrloyse a looot quicker. I think NASA pushed a study about arsenic using bacteria that cost some poor women her career

The abundance of elements throughout the cosmos is also related to how heavy an element is. Thus its less likely that thered be biologies using elements beyond the second period.
Or rather, even if its possible a lot more biology systems will use second period elements.

The only xenobiology hypothesis that i really like is flourine
Using peptides since theyd behave in a distinct folding pattern eventhough F is almost isosteric to hydrogen. With flourine polymers you could build alot of additional kinds of membranes but flourine is "really" electronegative and with its ole 19 which is just a bad number for being made by stars its unlikely to play a huge role. I could dig out a few papers on that but thatd be off topic

Pic related. My kinda xenobiology
Frigate - Wed, 25 Jan 2017 17:42:36 EST ID:B2LKOBQC No.78504 Ignore Report Quick Reply
But why tho? they have similar properties, and I'm asking why they don't work. Not because they normally bond with something else
Frigate - Wed, 25 Jan 2017 17:44:20 EST ID:B2LKOBQC No.78505 Ignore Report Quick Reply
But why tho? I never stated anything about their bonds. I meant they are similar. My main question was why it was unbalanced.
Charlotte Drablingspear - Fri, 27 Jan 2017 21:49:13 EST ID:klMiQ9iI No.78511 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I remember reading somewhere that scientists were able to genetically engineer a bacteria that was able to create silicon bonds, to demonstrate that silicon-based lifeforms are possible and could maybe be found somewhere else in the universe. However I do not believe that they got so far as to create a glucose molecule with silicon instead of carbons. That kind of science is probably decades or centuries away. The reaction you have there is "balanced" in the sense that there are equal numbers of each atom on both sides of the equation. I think your teacher was just trying to tell you that you are full of shit.
Esther Bublingstick - Tue, 31 Jan 2017 21:59:07 EST ID:FMRNgMnb No.78518 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The electronegativity. Si forms sissy bonds compared to carbon. It's a harsh universe out there... lots of O2 and water. Without the strength and versitility of the carbon bond, silicon based lifeforms would get wrecked by the simplest forces of nature.

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