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Help with pinheads by Rebecca Bardridge - Sun, 07 Dec 2014 15:40:33 EST ID:ZR5LKI3H No.137614 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I have two cakes atm that I'm having trouble with:

  1. A cake that was attacked by mould but managed to survive with the help of Hydrogen Peroxide. It has pinheads but they seem to have stayed the same same for a week or two now. The stems have turned a kind of black/bluish colour.
I don't know why they have all stopped growing suddenly.

2. Is a very healthy cake I birthed about a week ago. The mycelium looks fluffy and since the birth has started growing in mass. Problem is, I still have no signs of pinheads forming, just large lumps with smaller ones on them (may be primordia)

Both cakes are in a glass tank with two small holes cut in the lid. I spray them once a day and the humidity seems high as there is constantly water on the glass.

Only issue is that the tank may be too cold (around 16-18 degrees C). Could this be the cause of my problem? If so, how can I increase the heat without buying a heatpad?
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Nigel Dockledock - Mon, 15 Dec 2014 00:15:42 EST ID:Ejo3oW/Z No.137718 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Glass probably wasn't a good idea

You really need a plastic tote so you can drill the correct amount of holes and let those things breath.
Nigel Lightworth - Mon, 15 Dec 2014 03:30:32 EST ID:lFXK4B7W No.137720 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah, it seems that most everyone identified what I believe to be wrong with your cakes.
Your first just isn't healthy. I personally would have ditched the cake at first sign of mold, but that's me. Seeing that you killed off the infection with peroxide, the cake my produce, but it's suffering it's own battle on top of what the second cake it also dealing with.
The second cake appears to not have enough free air exchange (FAE). Also, the humidity without the FAE might be what's causing the fluffy mycelium.
Your temperature is at the lower end of ideal for mushrooms. It'll metabolize slower (take longer to grow) is all. I'd raise it by 2-3 C if you really wanted to, but it shouldn't hurt.
OP - Tue, 16 Dec 2014 14:43:40 EST ID:ZR5LKI3H No.137742 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ty everyone this is VERY helpful
OP - Tue, 16 Dec 2014 15:12:32 EST ID:ZR5LKI3H No.137744 Ignore Report Quick Reply
UPDATE I cut 8 more 2cmx2cm squares into the lid. Will this be enough?
Priscilla Crozzlestick - Wed, 17 Dec 2014 01:58:00 EST ID:lFXK4B7W No.137765 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Possibly; I don't like to use glass for the very reason you can't modify like you want. Ideally, you want wet perlite at the bottom to do two essential things; provide humidity and FAE; both are caused as water is evaporated from the porous surface of the perlite. However, to encourage airflow, you need a difference in air pressure, which is what the perlite is doing. To maximize that effect, you'd want air holes along the sides and especially on the bottom. This is so fresh air can come up from the bottom, and rise to the top. This airflow also helps to keep out airborne contaminants, as the perlite can effectively make a filter for the incoming air.

My rambling aside, because you have a glass tank, you can't modify the sides and bottom like that.
Your solution may be something as simple as hand fanning twice or thrice a day. If you don't, the CO2 builds up, and stunts the growth of the mycelium and fruiting bodies. Just find a hand fan, or in lieu of that, use the lid, and stir the air up in the chamber. You might want to mist a little more lightly, to prevent too much humidity from building up. The stale air can also be a great breeding ground for bacteria to develop in any standing water, so a drip shield over your cakes might be wise.

First time shroom grow, all jars have green mold by Martin Macklesork - Mon, 15 Dec 2014 12:04:47 EST ID:nrAdbvTj No.137729 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I started my first grow,12 jars, with a SPD disk (to allow fresh air) and 2 holes in the top sealed with silicone (but not rtv silicone) for the needle to inject.

I pressure cooked 3 jars at a time for an hour, let them sit for the night and injected then with spores the next day.

I put them in a tub in a tub set to heat at 85F (too hot initially I think!), then turned it down to 82. After two weeks, many of the jars had grown lots of mycelium, but they were all contaminated with green mold.

What did I do wrong?
William Cannerham - Wed, 17 Dec 2014 00:07:23 EST ID:FGIHsA3L No.137761 Ignore Report Quick Reply
if all 12 of them have green shit sounds like the syringes you got were old/contaminated. Or your inoculation process was way too dirty, but even then i would expect a few to be ok and or a variety or contamination in different jars.

I've had that happen before, got old syringes from a buddy and similar shit happened.
James Haffingsot - Wed, 17 Dec 2014 01:01:56 EST ID:zmyXPipr No.137763 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sterilize in-between jars.
Priscilla Crozzlestick - Wed, 17 Dec 2014 01:40:49 EST ID:lFXK4B7W No.137764 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yep, sounds like a dirty needle.
There's a few methods to keep the needle clean. One is to heat the needle tip (and any part that's touched other substrate) until it's red hot. I don't like to do this because the needle is held by a plastic base, which can melt.
I'm trying out a new method right now; basically, soak gauze in isopropyl alcohol and keep your needle in the middle of it; stab through the gauze into the injection port, inoculate, and draw the needle back into the middle of the soaked gauze. I'll let you know how it works out for me, though I had to use polyfill wrapped in a paper towel due to my lack of proper first aid equipment.
Otherwise, my old method was to inoculate, let a few drops out of the needle, burn the tip till it was red hot, and wipe the entire needle in a fresh isopropyl pad. I wouldn't put it at 100%, but it got the job done in a timely manner.

My dying plant by Molly Gomblefield - Tue, 16 Dec 2014 23:05:34 EST ID:0MxB3/KJ No.137755 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hi guys my plant has been healthy for the last 2 weeks however 2 days ago two leaves started dying and so I trimmed them and the next day the edges of the others started curling. They are on a 12/12 cycle as is a micro grow have 110 watt led full spectrum light and have been watering them as much as I normally do and I never have this problem. Does anyone have any advice?
William Cannerham - Tue, 16 Dec 2014 23:43:57 EST ID:FGIHsA3L No.137758 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>two leaves started dying and so I trimmed them

that plant has been struggling hard if it's two weeks old and that small.

do some more reading or something. come up with a different plant, whatever you are doing is not good. not trying to be a dick
William Cannerham - Tue, 16 Dec 2014 23:48:57 EST ID:FGIHsA3L No.137759 Ignore Report Quick Reply
meant to say plan but getting a new plant to start fresh is also a good idea.

figure out the ph of your soil and whatever you are feeding it. that is prolly one of the things that's off. Are you using city tap water? Also, i am a big fan of LED lights, especially for veg, how close are you keeping the light? With good soil and the light you have stuff should be going much better than it is. Also, 12/12 from seed (clones are a bit different) is just silly no matter how small your grow is, give them at least a few weeks of 18-24 hours of light to get some leaf and root mass going.

Designing a grow facility by Esther Murdspear - Sun, 14 Dec 2014 10:41:00 EST ID:toijgDPh No.137704 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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hey /crops/

Who here owns (or co-owns) a marijuana grow facility? I've been overseeing a small hydroponic grow op for a couple of years, but now I'm designing a grow facility with a friend and some associates. We've got an investor. We've got the talent. But now we're designing the facility and I feel that we're going to be overlooking many things. We've been brainstorming and we have a pretty solid design, but I'm trying to reach out to other large-scale growers about things they would have done differently if they could completely redesign their facility's layout.

We've toured a couple of grow ops, and at each tour we made notes about things we liked, things we disliked, and how we would have improved that facility. When I spoke to the owners and asked them what they would have done differently, very few of them actually offered advice. They all paused for a moment to think but the majority of the answers were "I can't think of anything right off hand, things are good so far". I'm not sure if they're genuinely pleased with their design, or if they can't even acknowledge possible improvements, or if they're flat out lying because they think I'm competition.

For those of you with a large scale grow facility, what things would you do differently? What do you know now that you wish you knew when you started?
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superfuck - Mon, 15 Dec 2014 05:19:11 EST ID:toijgDPh No.137728 Ignore Report Quick Reply

please define 'here' and can I crash on your couch for a while?
Shit Lightstock - Tue, 16 Dec 2014 16:55:29 EST ID:lRln78qK No.137745 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Coco slabs, change during yearly maintenance. Crystallized salts nutrients they use for growing fruit trees. (mix a concentrated feeding solution in a barrel, PLC controlled dosing valve for feeding)
1000W double ended HPS fixtures, run at 120% overdrive change bulb during yearly maintenance.

Mother plants in Air-Pots, coco, 315W CMH Greenpower bulb, change during yearly maintainance.
Clones in rockwool cubes in shelves under T5 840 Phillips Eco. Every shelf has a flood and drain table for watering, one for new clones with rooting hormone one for old clones (on larger rockwool cubes) with nutrients.

I don't think there is a more cost efficient solution, it may be a bit hardware intensive compared to most setups but it should be possible to run it very little manpower.
William Cannerham - Tue, 16 Dec 2014 22:23:58 EST ID:FGIHsA3L No.137754 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i live in WA state, very recently legalized and licensed growers are selling their shit for at least double what blackmarket/grey market medical whatever the fuck goes for before taxes. All the taxes and regulation and needing to send your weed to a lab for testing so they can label it and shit adds to the cost even more.
I grow and sell my stuff at about $5 a gram. The recreational in the store costs $20-30 a gram after tax. Shit is fucked but there is a lot of money to be made right now
Beatrice Bubbledet - Tue, 16 Dec 2014 23:06:12 EST ID:XOIwkIve No.137756 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thats because it is a goldrush right now
Corporations will move in and take all the profit away from any small grower.
Subsidy from top dealer uncle sam will ensure no back yard grow will be competitive , just like with about any other crop, thats how you control a market.
William Cannerham - Tue, 16 Dec 2014 23:14:30 EST ID:FGIHsA3L No.137757 Ignore Report Quick Reply
honestly, if i could go down to the store and buy an ounce of the same quality shit i currently grow for $38 an ounce, i would prolly buy it.

Do immature plants have any use? by Esther Trotbury - Mon, 15 Dec 2014 19:00:20 EST ID:gNN3QxDo No.137734 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Comment Due to a confluence of events which I'd rather not recount, I'm giving up my mini-grow op of 2 plants. They were in the vegetative stage for about 2 months, and in the flowering stage for 12 days. I'm chopping them down tonight regardless, but before I just throw out the plant materials I'd like to know if I can do anything with them (hash production, cannabutter, etc.) or if they're too young to be of any use.

Pic related but not mine
Wesley Gandleridge - Tue, 16 Dec 2014 14:47:49 EST ID:xEf1mvtw No.137743 Ignore Report Quick Reply
pretty useless

Stealth plants by Cornelius Claylock - Thu, 11 Dec 2014 11:17:54 EST ID:cEOJhxcY No.137667 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Is there strains of cannabis that dont look like one ?
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Frederick Chingermat - Fri, 12 Dec 2014 12:34:34 EST ID:L53Xj7Kr No.137688 Ignore Report Quick Reply
They look very close to another plant growing in my area.
Nobody would give a fuck seeing a huge cluster of these
Frederick Crinderbudging - Fri, 12 Dec 2014 15:34:48 EST ID:IuH3j5JW No.137689 Ignore Report Quick Reply
it's still going to smell like weed in flower
Betsy Sivingman - Mon, 15 Dec 2014 23:59:40 EST ID:4Ln6/llz No.137738 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Grafting is some sick shit. I found out about it through a garden book I bought at a yardsale.
Matilda Worthingman - Tue, 16 Dec 2014 05:22:22 EST ID:NCSGJFoG No.137739 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've heard ducksfoot gives a slight headache when smoked? The high probably isn't all that great either.
Fucking Pittforth - Tue, 16 Dec 2014 13:21:31 EST ID:W7RcB39S No.137740 Ignore Report Quick Reply
now you look dumb, after what came out this bread.

Mushroom enthusiast here by Cyril Nimmlecocke - Thu, 11 Dec 2014 21:41:33 EST ID:Ejo3oW/Z No.137678 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm trying to get into mycology. Mushrooms are fucking awesome and I want to basically immerse myself in all things mushroom (not even talking /psy/ here per se, just mushrooms in general).

Can you guys and gals point me in the direction of some starting literature to help me out on this journey? Some basic information about the anatomy of mushrooms, how they grow, how to grow them, etc?

I'm talking /crops/ and mycology 101 stuff here. Thanks ahead of time
Rebecca Cirryket - Fri, 12 Dec 2014 03:58:00 EST ID:oESpD6E3 No.137687 Ignore Report Quick Reply
check your library for books on mycology. where do you live? PNW, you know western washington state (where im at) and Florida are the mushroom capitols of the world really
first book i got was The Mushroom Cultivator, drawing a blank on the authors name, awesome dude, i even met him once.... oh well

I got into it by finding a mentor of sorts by chance
Phoebe Tillingbury - Sun, 14 Dec 2014 04:46:11 EST ID:y22mbyyz No.137700 Ignore Report Quick Reply
check shroomery .com
Nigel Lightworth - Mon, 15 Dec 2014 03:23:42 EST ID:lFXK4B7W No.137719 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Alright, I'll try to make this brief.
Shroomery is the site for learning how to grow. It's easy to start off on the basic there and work your way up. Also pretty good for learning how to grow species other than cubensis, and that includes non-psychedelic species, like shiitake.
If you're curious about mushrooms in general, pick up a biology book on mycology, and give it a read. I find it weird and fascinating that mushrooms are more like us than plants (heterotrophic, uses oxygen, uses chitin, etc).

However, the best teacher are the mushrooms themselves. Just start growing them. I've been growing for about two years now, and the majority of that time I've learned what kind of environmental conditions mushrooms like, mainly the temperature, habitat, humidity, and the substrate itself. I learn something new every time. If I really wanted to immerse myself even deeper, I'd take my failed jars and catalog all the different kinds of molds that happened to take hold, and study those in depth.

Best Chamber for shrooms? by Phineas Lightfoot - Tue, 09 Dec 2014 18:59:56 EST ID:xm5UKMsJ No.137643 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Was reading the erowid shroom guide and I was wondering if there are better chambers than the ''best option'' in their shroom guide? Looking for something with low maintenance im willing to spend some money if that gets me a better choice.
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Henry Clishbad - Thu, 11 Dec 2014 21:07:37 EST ID:fp97+dxp No.137676 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've never heard of that one, and i've heard of a lot of crazy ideas for growing stuff.
I will have to look into that. Have you done it before? what kinda substrate do you use?
Jarvis Bunstock - Thu, 11 Dec 2014 22:39:47 EST ID:xNSYRTVf No.137679 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Every time.
I use pasteurized cattle manure.
Henry Conkinlock - Fri, 12 Dec 2014 16:35:10 EST ID:3/u9kU9v No.137691 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Does Ian stil work at Buds and Roses? Ian mah nigga.
Eliza Blythehall - Sat, 13 Dec 2014 15:57:44 EST ID:3V9tNSjU No.137697 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Where and how much and also how big?
Priscilla Duckworth - Sun, 14 Dec 2014 19:56:35 EST ID:4UvsBNqN No.137712 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Spawn rye to coconut husk and verm in a 50:50 ratio. Colonize in tubs.

Add a second, matching tub, with "shotgun" style holes drilled on top.

This is called a dubtub. It works exceedingly well.

Taking a clone of a clone by Clara Clayway - Sat, 06 Dec 2014 14:27:54 EST ID:9TMOSPTy No.137601 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I want to hear YOUR FIRST HAND EXPERIENCES with taking a clone of a clone. or even a clone of a clone of a clone ect. Are there negatives? Other forums cant seem to come to a consensus. I am guessing most of the people that say not to are in the business of selling clones.
I havent had any issues so far with a bunch of clones i took from a clone i got at dispensary but i havent flowered em yet.
I do agree, plants from seed have a slight advantage in the long run since they have a taproot.

What say you guys?
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Martha Crommlestut - Tue, 09 Dec 2014 03:31:24 EST ID:4eaQ8WEC No.137635 Ignore Report Quick Reply
never liked clones i can always see the difference in seed plants, imo stronger
Albert Crellerson - Tue, 09 Dec 2014 11:49:40 EST ID:HwR/SXdY No.137640 Ignore Report Quick Reply
mind elaborating on epigenetic changes? an example?
Henry Conkinlock - Fri, 12 Dec 2014 15:56:18 EST ID:3/u9kU9v No.137690 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Epigenetics is a new field of science so you won't get a good answer. As far as your original question and what you want to know... If you are doing a good job avoiding pests, diseases/infections etc... you can keep a strain around for 25+ years. Shantibaba in Switzerland still has the clone only mother plants of the original White Widow.

Just do it if you want to. As you gain experience you will see that some strains go to shit over time and some don't. Also, professional propagators cut maybe 20-60 clones off of a mother plant and then keep the STRONGEST clones from that batch for the next mother plant. If you are consistent in this way you can keep a strain going for a very long time.
Frederick Crinderbudging - Fri, 12 Dec 2014 17:30:45 EST ID:IuH3j5JW No.137692 Ignore Report Quick Reply
thanks dude, that helps a lot

>Also, professional propagators cut maybe 20-60 clones off of a mother plant and then keep the STRONGEST clones from that batch for the next mother plant. If you are consistent in this way you can keep a strain going for a very long time.

i dont consider my self a pro but i almost always do this anyway.
Henry Conkinlock - Fri, 12 Dec 2014 18:22:27 EST ID:3/u9kU9v No.137693 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Well there you go. The strain should last awhile as long as you don't stress it too much or expose it to bugs, mold, virus, etc...

Outdoor Growing 2014/15 by Jenny Bubberwog - Wed, 10 Dec 2014 04:40:12 EST ID:OEOa9qq/ No.137649 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hello guys, just dropping by to share some pictures of the progress on my growing this year so far, the most developed one is an OG Kush which you can see in the picture.

She has a little more than 2 months on veg from seed, planted on soil, 80L pot, used Biobizz products everyother week and watering with purified water (no osmosis but l have a filter for metals, bleach and other shit that comes with it)

pH of the water l use ranges between 6,5 and 6,7. soil pH ranges from 6,5 to 7. Needless to say I'm from the southern hemisphere, approaching summer season.

I will use an even more complete feeding schedule for flowering, and I expect at least 350gr/plant

Currently growing 10 and another 4 are about to germinate, all of them will be getting the same as their big sister, any thoughts or recommendations to increase yield even more? 100% Organic by the way.
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Hedda Gillerridge - Thu, 11 Dec 2014 23:08:15 EST ID:HSwS2WiM No.137680 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Topping and FIM'ing isn't about getting even light distribution, it's about creating more branches for bud to grow on, increasing yield.
Jarvis Bunstock - Thu, 11 Dec 2014 23:46:24 EST ID:xNSYRTVf No.137681 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think it's literally the opposite of what you said. Why wouldn't a plant in nature maximize its reproductive capability? Topping is useful for making an even canopy and keeping your plants managable.
Rebecca Cirryket - Thu, 11 Dec 2014 23:47:03 EST ID:oESpD6E3 No.137682 Ignore Report Quick Reply
if you leave the plant alone, it will grow more branches for bud to grow on all on it's own. Topping or fimming is just extremely useful indoors for controlling the SHAPE of the plant.
Shitting Shittingshaw - Fri, 12 Dec 2014 01:25:13 EST ID:OEOa9qq/ No.137685 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Just like these guys said.


FIM and other topping methods are for height control problems and to avoid collapsing branches among other things like a more balanced distributed buds in the plant, it does not increase the yield, you can go and ask any vastly experienced outdoor grower to confirm this if you do not believe us, I'm not a vegan btw, but in some situations, you just cannot surpass mother nature's experience, outdoor is more different than indoor growing than most people think.
Rebecca Cirryket - Fri, 12 Dec 2014 03:52:09 EST ID:oESpD6E3 No.137686 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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this here's the biggest "documented" indoor medical plant. It was never topped, just trained/screen of green.

topping doesn't = more bud. it's simply one of many methods to control and plan the shape of your plant.

that said, i top all my indoor plants, sometimes a handful of times before flowering.

Different strains grown side by side by Archie Hobbleped - Tue, 09 Dec 2014 17:06:55 EST ID:toijgDPh No.137642 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Absolute noob question here - are there any advantages or disadvantages about growing different strains right next to each other? Are strains racist and will they get stressed out if there's another strain nearby? That last question was a joke.
Lydia Chittingnerk - Tue, 09 Dec 2014 20:20:38 EST ID:AqDf8iG2 No.137644 Ignore Report Quick Reply
They will likely grow at different rates depending on strain. You may end up needing to raise one closer to the light, and they probably won't mature at the same time. Not much of an issue except for the extra effort to keep them at the right distance from the light(s). Might have different nutrient needs too.
Phoebe Sappershit - Thu, 11 Dec 2014 21:35:35 EST ID:U2L5ZQAb No.137677 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm about a month into a grow with one cotton candy and one sour diesel. I can tell already that the cotton candy I got is a total sativa pheno while the sourd is pretty indica. Its pretty apparent that they will be growing at vastly different rates and may become a problem. If you're inexperienced I would suggest sticking to only one strain if you can.

Mushroom culture by Shroomish - Tue, 09 Dec 2014 16:20:17 EST ID:7cRezUa7 No.137641 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey fellers, noble Floridian shroomqueer here.
I've been growing mushroom for about 3 months now, unfortunately I'm stuck with only one strain (PES Hawaii) which has been kind to me, but now I wonder on other strains like oyster, button and Portabello. Since I am an 18year old poorfag I haven't got the money to spend on spore syringes.

MY QUESTION: Where can I get live culture samples to grow the legal shrooms for a cheep price?

I've thought of buying a Back to the Roots pearl oyster mush bags and collecting a sample of live mycelium but I want to hear your opinions
Priscilla Hubblemudging - Wed, 10 Dec 2014 14:58:03 EST ID:E893mH2S No.137652 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I sorta doubt you are going to find live tissue for cheaper than syringes. How much are spores for legal shrooms? Last time i got cube spores it was $14 dollars after shipping and tax. I ordered one syringe and got an extra for free. That was more than enough to get me started and expanding the spawn indefinitely

I know, im broke too but really?

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