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Captain's Log by Caroline Siffingfuck - Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:40:19 EST ID:lE51QiPd No.144030 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Well, after a week, and after getting some advice from here, I finally have some rooted clones of my bagseed mother - I call her Patty The Daytime Hooker.

Anywho, I transferred two clones to my DWC buckets filled with expanded clay pebbles. Under a 300W LED right now. My flowering tent has the 1000W HPS/MH system in it, and it won't be free for vegging for probably the next two to three weeks.

This is my first time using a DWC, so I want to see if these guys can make it.

Pic is Patty's First Kid.
Day 1 of grow
Day 1 of veg
Caroline Siffingfuck - Sat, 11 Feb 2017 22:42:49 EST ID:lE51QiPd No.144031 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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This is Patty's Second Kid.
Day 1 of grow
Day 1 of veg

I have no nutes in either bucket. Those will come next week or so. After they settle in on the new media. I started them in riot plugs, so the expanded clay is new.
Barnaby Dozzlehene - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 20:18:05 EST ID:lE51QiPd No.144055 Ignore Report Quick Reply
General Hydroponics nutes ordered. Should be here by Saturday. Then the ladies will get their first meal.
Frederick Dartwell - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 21:37:41 EST ID:lE51QiPd No.144059 Ignore Report Quick Reply
UPDATE - Got my nutes in the mail today. Went with the "seedling - clone," dose which is about 1/4 of full strength. Mostly so I don't shock them since they have been just cruising on straight water for the last week.

Going to do some more clones this weekend just to cover my ass in case my hydro grow goes south. Never done it before.

Also, downloaded GrowBuddy. Nice software. Should help me keep track of shit.
William Mevingnut - Sun, 19 Feb 2017 19:54:11 EST ID:lE51QiPd No.144060 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OK, going to ask a question in case anyone is actually following this...

I went with 1/4 strength nutes, which were listed for clones/seedlings. Technically, my plants are starting week 2 of their veg cycle. The recommendation for week 2 is actually 1/2 strength nutes.

Anyone think I should switch to 1/2 strength mid-week? Then, by the end of week 2, I will be "caught up." I just don't want to shock these guys. I may only veg one for 4 weeks and then flower it. But, only because I haven't seen what Patty The Daytiime Hooker can produce. She may be a gem. The two I am flowering now from the same jumble of bag seed seem to be worth hold on to. One is a frosty looking bitch, whom is really filling out in this last week or so of flowering. Gonna reveg her for the cuttings....
Lillian Bandlecocke - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 11:14:45 EST ID:QI1rXhZY No.144061 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Which line of GH nutes did you choose? I myself follow the school of underfeeding my plants. Advantages are that nutes last longer and it's harder to nute burn plants this way. If you suspect a deficiency, make sure you ph is correct and that the roots look good. If both check out then you can add a bit more ferts. You're wise to use caution, since hydro has no buffer between roots and the nutrient solution, less = more. If you don't already have it, I would recommend a Calcium/magnesium supplement, and something to prevent root rot, such as Hydroguard.
Lillian Bandlecocke - Mon, 20 Feb 2017 11:33:54 EST ID:QI1rXhZY No.144062 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Example for me would be:
I'm growing Fem White Widow in 3 gal DWC (just a bucket filled with nutrient solution with an air line running into the water for dissolved oxygen. Vegged for 6 weeks, bloomed for 8/9 weeks.

GH reccoments 1/4 tsp per Gallon for seedlings/clones
I would use 1/8 tsp per gallon

GH reccomends 1 tsp Grow/ 2 tsp Micro/ 3 tsp Bloom per gallon
I use have.

I use full recommended strength for the Hydroguard. Then use double strength CaliMagic as cal-mag defs are common and plants can't really get too much cal-mag as long as they're given in the proper ratio.

I let my ph float in the 5.5-6.5 are and use the dropper kit to test my ph. I have no way of testing PPM/TDS and had no problems so far. Water stays around 65-75* F.

After a week I change the res with a fresh batch of nutes

I ended up getting about a qp off of a less than 2ft plant using a 300w led and two 26w cfl lamps
James Hockleway - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 15:24:04 EST ID:lE51QiPd No.144069 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Using the Flora line. And yeah, I think I will order some cal/mag this week.
Oliver Bavingferk - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 17:59:25 EST ID:lE51QiPd No.144232 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Kind of forgot about this in a big rush I had, so I am texting now, and will drop pics later.

Anywho, Patty's First Kid (PK1) bit the dust. I just bumped it and it fell out of the Riot Rooter plug. I thought it had rooted, but apparently hadn't. I checked the other plant (PK2) and it was also not rooted. Still green though. So, alive, but sort of just in a slow, slow, way...

Anyway, I finally got a semi-decent clone out of my cloning setup. Damn thing took 3 weeks to root! Anyway, it was a bit rough, but I replaced PK1 with it. Fresh start on the PK1 bucket. That was around the 25th of Feb. I replaced the 1/4 strengths nutes with more 1/4 strength nutes on the 27, since they seem to have been getting something, and I didn't want to risk anything. Around the first, I noticed that PK2 had actually rooted! Two small ones, but there. So, on the 6th, I went up to "general purpose - mild," on the nutes. I also added a 175w MH ballast-in-hood light that I just had sitting around. Placed this about 12" above the buckets, and they seemed to like the light. After a week on this, PK1 is actually sending out some vigorous new growth on top. It took some time. It was not a great clone, but now it seems to have dug in and be slurping up the nutes. PK2 seems to still be working on the roots. She has some slight new growth from two opposing nodes on her. She seems to be about a week behind PK1 in the "settling in process." Looks like she might just be coming out of the shock of a shitty cloning that shouldn't have worked.

I also moved everyone yesterday. I had a nice weed harvest from a sativa and a "mostly indica," plant, that gave me a chance to free up my big tent, since I don't have anyone flowering at the moment. The two plants I harvested stayed in so they could get revegged for clones. I swapped the bulb to a 1000w MH and pretty much threw everyone in the tent. Even my cloning dome. The tent stays in the mid-high 70s whenever it is on. And my grow area gets COLD in the winter. So, I am thinking temp was fucking up my clones. Even with one of those janky seed warming pads under it.

Anyway, after the first 24 hours of being in this new tent on a 16/8 cycle, everything is looking great on these plants. No burning or shock at all. I think that 175 MH helped reduce the shock. PK1 even has sent up noticeable growth in the last 24 hrs. She is really kicking it into high gear.

On Monday, I am adding the new nutes. I think I will bump PK1 up to full "vegetative growth," and take PK2, which is still on cuttings level, to general purpose. Then, next week they both get "vegetative," levels. Hopefully it won't be too much. Maybe I will just do 2-2-1 for PK1. Not sure if I should push my luck, or take it slow.

Oh, and as a side note, I measured my recent harvest, and between the two plants, I am just shy of getting 1/2lb of dry product if my estimation is correct. Now, that tent can easily take 4 DWC buckets. In fact, 6 would be easily doable. So, if on my next flowering run, I just run 4 plants, I will hit the 1lb per 1000w mark, which is supposed to be considered a normal return. Feels good to know I am getting there.
Matilda Cripperridge - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 22:25:24 EST ID:lE51QiPd No.144239 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Here are the pics. This is PK1. The little scrubby thing next to him is just a cutting I crammed in the bucket to see if it would take. Seems to be loving the new conditions.
Matilda Cripperridge - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 22:26:20 EST ID:lE51QiPd No.144240 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Fucked that one up. That pic is PK2. Been through a lot, but seems to be turning the corner.
Matilda Cripperridge - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 22:27:07 EST ID:lE51QiPd No.144241 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Actual PK1
Alice Nambleshaw - Tue, 14 Mar 2017 15:40:13 EST ID:lE51QiPd No.144249 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Quick update - After 30 hours of the new, "full veg," nutes from GH, both PK1 and PK2 are doing great. I worried that I might nute burn them, or shock them, but there appears to have been decent growth on PK1 and PK2 twitched up a bit on the nodes that are growing. I'm still new to DWC and hyrdo, but without a soil buffer, I assume burn would have been noticeable by now, as would shock.

I think the higher temps in the tent are helping too.
Ian Mummerdene - Tue, 14 Mar 2017 18:14:39 EST ID:QI1rXhZY No.144252 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've seen plants grown in coco respond pretty quickly after being supercropped. Others had wilting due to not getting watered on schedule, and the leaves perked up in a couple of hours or so. Going off of that, I think your right to assume that they are happy as clams. I believe the tips of the leaves turn brown first when overfeeding.

That's good to hear. Plants will differ in what they feel is a good climate, but generally temps in the mid to high 80's are the highest you want to go. Make sure your water stays under 75, the hotter it gets the less dissolved oxygen the water can hold so your plant ends up suffocating. It is also a recipe for root rot.
Augustus Crinningfetch - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 17:58:08 EST ID:lE51QiPd No.144256 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Thanks. A bit worried about root rot, but only when the roots get into the water itself. They are still all up in the clay pellets.

This is PK1. You can see the growth on it. Getting bigger, and fast! Nice to have such a responsive plant as a guide.
Augustus Crinningfetch - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 18:02:16 EST ID:lE51QiPd No.144257 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Here is PK2. Less impressive to look at, but she has growth on two nodes, and seems to be catching up with PK1. Since they are the same strain, I am hoping they will even out in the next month of vegging. Then, it is time for flowering! Hopefully. I have two harvested plants I am revegging for clones. So, I need them to be ready to clone before I can switch the tent to flower.
Fucking Clunningtuck - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 19:49:39 EST ID:lE51QiPd No.144321 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Update - Things seem to be OK. Worried about temp in the tent. It got cold here, and it seemed to slow down growth a lot. I decided to disconnect the outlet on the hood and just let it blow into the tent. Seems to have bumped the temps up by 10 degrees or so. So, it feels fairly warm in there. Need to get a thermometer.

This is PK1. Still doing well. Although seems to have slowed a bit in growth since the cold.
Fucking Clunningtuck - Fri, 24 Mar 2017 19:50:34 EST ID:lE51QiPd No.144322 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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This PK2. Still behind PK1, but striving.
Fuck Bardstock - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 00:56:22 EST ID:lE51QiPd No.144349 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well, things are still looking good, but got leggy fast when I upped the temp in the tent. I got a cheap hi/lo thermometer with humidity sensor. My humidity is fucking ridiculously low. 20%! The temp was 90F. I need to get that down by at least 10 degrees.

So, I hooked the fan up to vent outside the tent, and put out some open containers of water amidst the plants. See if that doesn't up the humidity and drop the temp. Need to find that sweet spot.
Eugene Fivingstock - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 05:29:35 EST ID:xthRZCcw No.144350 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The meter is probably wrong
20% is desert tier
Fuck Bardstock - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 09:02:01 EST ID:lE51QiPd No.144351 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm not so sure. The meter on the dehumdifier for the basement (set to 50%) says it is 35% and that is when the washer next to it is going and things are noticeably humid. Winter can be really dry in New England. Anywho, whatever happpened...it is up to 50% this morning. Temps got as low as 64F overnight. Not too much of a problem, but I hope it gets into the mid 70s at least with the lights on.
Fuck Bardstock - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 17:34:10 EST ID:lE51QiPd No.144353 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well, it has been a bumpy ride today.
I got humidity up to around 40% by basically flooding the floor pan with a quarter inch of water. Meh, it works and does no harm. Just have to make sure the plants stay up on bricks now. Anyway, with the tent buttoned up, I was getting 99F in there! Now, this is the hottest spot. On the highest part of a 5 gallon DWC bucket under a 1000W light. But, still...anywho fiddled with shit a bit, opened up some vents, etc and if I keep a steady fan blowing over the area I get into the 83F-84F range. Not ideal, but close enough.
Hedda Claywell - Wed, 29 Mar 2017 14:13:58 EST ID:lE51QiPd No.144362 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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UPDATE - Temp seems more stable. 83F as a high...65F as a low. Which is not bad. Humidity is still low, but manageable. And should go up naturally in the next month. The area I grow in can have massive swings in humidity over the year.

Anyway, growth is going great.

PK1 is looking good and starting to really take off. Things seems to be going well with the DWC. This is all new to me, so I'm still amazed that I am growing plants with nothing but water and nutrients. Growth seems to be hitting that "exponential," stage. Lots of noticeable growth every day. And slowly speeding up as more leaves start to produce energy.

This is PK1. Now at over 4" in height. Give her to 12" before I flip into flower I think.
Hedda Claywell - Wed, 29 Mar 2017 14:16:49 EST ID:lE51QiPd No.144363 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Here is PK2. She has REALLY started to shine. For a plant that most people would have given up on...and arguably I should have... she has really come back strong. Good growth on both major nodes. Strong plant.
Graham Cozzlekock - Mon, 03 Apr 2017 13:31:25 EST ID:lE51QiPd No.144409 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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UPDATE - Things have taken off like crazy now. My growth rate is nice. No stretching issues, and the DWC system is now noticeably consuming water. This makes things easier for me, since I can just replace what has been consumed. Since I am a noob to hydro, I was doing full water swaps every week to simply "reset" my nutes. Now that I have a better feel for it, I am going to just start doing top offs, and only do a full nute switch when I need to (like going to flowering, etc.

This is PK1. Doing fantastic. She now spreads pretty much over the top of the 5 gallon DWC bucket. Not only adding height, but also adding bulk. Took a bunch of old leaves and shit off her last night. Get some more air flowing through her and to let me see where to pinch off growth to get good bushiness.
Graham Cozzlekock - Mon, 03 Apr 2017 13:36:23 EST ID:lE51QiPd No.144410 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Here is PK2. I thought this one was a lost cause, but she has managed to stay in the game like a champ. Now she is catching up on growth and enjoying it. I think she may end up the same size or very close to it as PK1.

Both of these plants are now in week 7 of veg. And had they been big and strong clones, would probably be twice the size and ready to start flowering. Instead, I think I will give them another 3-4 weeks. Still not sure what this plant will produce. It may be middies, it may be the dankest shit ever. Oh, well. This is how you learn.
Ian Worthingman - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 11:13:00 EST ID:QI1rXhZY No.144454 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's awesome that you've stuck with it. With deep water culture once the roots hit that water growth just explodes and you're patience is rewarded.
Thomas Peffinghutch - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 13:49:48 EST ID:lE51QiPd No.144459 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It really is. I am amazed at how fast these plants are growing. I may be forced to put them in flower in the next two weeks. Which I am NOT complaining about, btw!

The amount of nutes the suck up is impressive too. DWC really lets you get an idea of what is going on inside the plant. Pretty fucking cool.
Jarvis Songerfire - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 16:30:25 EST ID:lE51QiPd No.144475 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I just checked my records and the plants are now at 8 weeks veg. I easily could be where I am now after 6 weeks, had I started with better clones.
I am now getting a real sense of what the more seasoned growers are talking about in terms of where a plant should be by a certain time. Before...I always took it with a grain of salt. But, yeah, some of these fast grow times I hear about now seem very possible. Not sure I will get there, but who knows.

Plants are really big. I may be forced to flower them sooner than I thought. Which might be a bit of a hassle. Just getting some old plants re-vegged for cloning. Need clones off them before I can do any switch. I also have two GSCs growing...SLOWLY for some fucking reason. I have the feeling that my Michigan Mix is a fucking dud. Going to slowly add nutes and see how they react. These are mothers...I just need clones...but I need faster growth. And they are in soil so...yeah. Fuck.

BTW, me...having too much weed....is kinda a funny problem to have.
John Blatherwater - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 17:24:52 EST ID:JdMjclHL No.144476 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If the clone is really small it takes forever
So you want a decent size cut with a bunch of nodes
Doris Bivingsore - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 20:02:49 EST ID:lE51QiPd No.144477 Ignore Report Quick Reply
These weren't physically small. They just took forever to root as clones, and as a result were kinda weak when I put them in DWC. All that time had taken a toll on the cuttings' energy reserves. A lot of the leaves were pretty yellow, etc.

Honestly, whatever is going on with my cuttings is driving me nuts. Take forever...if I get them to root at all.
Ernest Sivingforth - Sun, 09 Apr 2017 00:26:30 EST ID:JdMjclHL No.144481 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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You posted a photo of a toothpick with a single leaf on it
it didnt grow fast because it didn't had the means to
Doris Bivingsore - Sun, 09 Apr 2017 14:12:14 EST ID:lE51QiPd No.144485 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That is what I meant.
The reason it had so few leaves was that it pretty much cannibalized them. I started with more leaves on the cutting, but it took a long time to root, and the leaves paid the price. The pic I posted was after some trimming.

Regardless...you should see them now. And you will. Because I am posting new pics like, now...
Doris Bivingsore - Sun, 09 Apr 2017 14:18:56 EST ID:lE51QiPd No.144486 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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UPDATE - Here are some pics of how they stand now.

This is PK1 with PK2 behind it. The growth is phenomenal now. I just had to feed both 1/2 gallon of fresh nutes each. When my soil grows were going full bore, each plant took about that in water per day. Really amazing how much they can process in 24 hours.

A big thing I have noticed is that my DWC fan leaves are looking much better than soil. Soil was fine, but the DWC leaves are bigger by far and have a deeper green to them. I am finding that what I thought was shit-hot looking good, may have been just meh.

Anyway - PK1 with PK2 behind it in the other black bucket.
Doris Bivingsore - Sun, 09 Apr 2017 14:22:49 EST ID:lE51QiPd No.144487 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Well, I am yet again an idiot. That pic is PK2. As you can see she has just caught up nicely and is really filling the space.

HERE is PK1...
She is getting so big. I may have to slow her down a bit. I have other plants that could use more time in the tent under the big light. Then again, I am loathe to have this growth rate slow down....
INTERPOL !3mB4iDBpWw - Mon, 10 Apr 2017 23:45:12 EST ID:Z5JAvHDD No.144507 Report Quick Reply

The way this one looks, it would make a good mother plant for future clones just by the way it's growing. Or throw it into bloom and when you go to trim and top it, use the cuttings you take off of it to get clones faster once you're into week 1-2 of bloom. You'll have to trim it anyhow to get it to yield decently, make what you cut off of it work for you, killing 2 birds, one stone, etc.
Wesley Brezzlehere - Thu, 13 Apr 2017 15:23:20 EST ID:xCjYWm+N No.144560 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah, I already have a mother, and I keep my moms in soil for ease of maintenance.

UPDATE - So, we had to get a new gas meter installed. When the guy installed it, he unplugged the extension that powers my tent.

And I didn't discover it for about 12 hours....

I was worried that the lack of a working air pump would have quickly killed my DWC grow. Nope. They seem fine. Maybe some reduced growth for the last two days...but far from a disaster. Which is good.

I've noticed a lot of changes in the tent. The temp is stabilizing to around 83F. The humidity, which was in the 30s, has now shot up to the low 90s! I couldn't quite figure out why, until I realized that I was also going through more that 1/2 gallon of nutes a day.

Plants dump water out of their leaves. The humidity has risen as the plants have grown. My plants are literally fogging the tent up with their breath! Kind of amazing to see what they can do.
Fucking Pugglestone - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 17:40:19 EST ID:xCjYWm+N No.144600 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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UPDATE - My damn plants are exploding faster than a freshman grabbing boob for the first time.

Both plants are huge now. I need to raise my light for sure when I flower. Can't flower them for another 5 days...but they look good. Even after I accidentally tore a big lower branch off PK1 by being a clumsy oaf.

Hard to not get both plants in the frame now. They are massive. Hard to believe they were so scrawny.

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