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Big pot grow by Charlotte Trotfield - Thu, 30 Mar 2017 06:33:04 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144374 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Growing Cookies Kush by Barney's Farm, figured I'd do a log this time.

Using just over 50L of canna terra soil, mars hydro 600w LED (~240w actual draw) and foxfarm trio nutrients.

Until recently I'd been growing 2 small plants in a smaller tent, but this time I decided I prefer one big plant. Goal is to use large pot size and longer veg time to get some huge yields.

Pic posted is 25 days from seed. Will be topping and using LST. Any advice / questions welcomed.
Beatrice Gammertene - Thu, 30 Mar 2017 06:48:49 EST ID:nTM1TGvH No.144376 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The pot is very big for a plant that size
So you gotta take it slow with the watering.
It's very easy to choke a small plant without noticing.

Get the maximum amount of branches by topping and lst.
I'd recommend doing multiple toppings to really utilize that space.

You're looking at a long vegging phase, but it'll pay off in the end.

Try to keep the plant small if you don't have a scrog net.
As they like to double or triple their size in the flowering phase.

I got a nice even canopy on a Barneys LSD by topping three times.
I thought of my grow space as a clock that has to get a branch on every number.
By doing this I got my whole room filled and a bit more than I wanted.
So there wasn't any pain in cutting the lower growth when going into 12/12.

Wish I had a pic, it would make a lot more sense than my ramblings.

Anyhow, good luck on this. I'll be checking in from time to time to see hows it going.
Charlotte Trotfield - Thu, 30 Mar 2017 07:07:44 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144377 Ignore Report Quick Reply

The tent is 120x120x200 so I have a fair bit of space. Tent is away from home, which is annoying as it makes checking on it a chore.

When you say multiple toppings, do you mean topping once, then topping the 2 branches that sprout from the top site, or just topping every branch? Last grow was learning the basics so still new to topping and LST
Beatrice Gammertene - Thu, 30 Mar 2017 08:45:21 EST ID:nTM1TGvH No.144385 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Maybe top at the 6th node.
You'll get 12 branches, then you wait for those to get 1-4 sets of nodes.
Then you top those branches as well.
And repeat once or twice until you have enough branches to fill the space completely.
It's good to top every branch that goes "out of line".
There's always that one stick that tries to fuck up every other branches opportunity to get light.
So you gotta keep those fuckers in check with regular beatings.

You can try supercropping which leaves you with more nodes.
It's basically like topping, but you just twist the tip so it almost breaks off.
Then you bend it into 90 degree angle.
The nodes under the bend-site will be triggered to grow faster, cause the plant has been tricked into thinking that the tip was cut off.

I've got a diary here, the low budget grow, so feel free to go check to see how supercropping works in action.
Martin Snodham - Mon, 03 Apr 2017 15:00:29 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144411 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Having some annoyances with the environment which is irritating. Heat is currently hovering around 28C / 29C, but the humidity is dropping below 40% so I'm hesitant to turn on the extraction because it will drop the humidity even lower.

Once the plant is big enough the humidity should even out, hopefully will happen before outside temps start getting high.

Also accidentally gave the plant a misting with some big bloom in the water instead of clean water so some of the fan leaves have brown marks on them from the dried fertilizer, doesn't seem like a big deal so won't bother cleaning it off incase I damage the leaves.

Growth is slow at the moment :(
Fucking Grimdock - Mon, 03 Apr 2017 17:54:35 EST ID:JdMjclHL No.144413 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You can put in a tray with water to raise the humidity
Shit Pivingchore - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 15:33:04 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144441 Ignore Report Quick Reply
For some reason the bottom 2 sets of fan leaves are drooping almost down to the soil. The higher ones aren't really drooping.

Its been watered, I thought I overdid it but the top inch of soil is dry again after 2 days so I can't have given it that much.
Martha Dartfoot - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 18:35:03 EST ID:JdMjclHL No.144442 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I had that and suspected over watering
small plant in a big pot = easy to over water and fertilize until it grown big
Cyril Widdlechut - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 05:47:35 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144445 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Getting fairly frustrated with the drooping leaves, can't figure out why its doing it. I thought it was overwatering but I waited until the soil was bone dry to make sure, and it only got worse.

Its been I think 3-4 days since I last watered, maybe its underwatered? The pics of under and over watered plant on grow weed easy both look exactly the same so thats no help. 4 fan leaves are touching the soil from drooping now.
Cyril Widdlechut - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 06:31:05 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144446 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Pic here, you can see the lower leaf drooping down. The leaves feel papery so I'm going with underwatering. I was following advice to go easy on the watering but it keeps getting worse so I gave it a drink.
Ian Worthingman - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 08:47:07 EST ID:QI1rXhZY No.144447 Ignore Report Quick Reply
your plant is fine. the rest of the leaves look great as far as i can tell. the bottom are facing that way because thats the best way for them to get light. Look up phototropism if you want to learn something.
Ian Worthingman - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 08:59:05 EST ID:QI1rXhZY No.144448 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's not as easy with you're big pot, but I would gauge if a plant needed water by picking it up and feeling the weight of it. If it felt really light I would water it until I saw water come out the drainage holes, then test and dump that liquid.
Cyril Widdlechut - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 09:30:22 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144449 Ignore Report Quick Reply

How many L of water is suitable per feed for a pot this size?
Augustus Marrypone - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 10:23:38 EST ID:JdMjclHL No.144450 Ignore Report Quick Reply
how long is the right length of a rope
Ian Worthingman - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 11:00:57 EST ID:QI1rXhZY No.144451 Ignore Report Quick Reply
water the media until moist and you have water collecting on your drain dish. pick pot up and let drain until water stops coming out. set pot down on something while you dump the dish of the drained water. set plant back on dish. Repeat this every 5-7 days if that. How often depends on climate and how much the plant drinks, so it's hard to say how often. Better off keeping things on the dry side as it's less risk and can actually increase potency by stressing the plant. Even though you claim to have grown before, I feel like it would be most wise for you to go back and brush up on the basics, because plant watering/feeding is one of them. While you're at it look up deep water culture. It's hydro, but so simple and the roots just sit in a tub of water with nutrients mixed and when i water i basically refill back to the line on the container.
Cyril Widdlechut - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 13:08:45 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144455 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I had no feeding issues with my last grows, it just seems as if people have been telling me to go easier on the water than I should because of the large pot.
Cyril Widdlechut - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 13:24:23 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144456 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Heres a pic of the actual droop incase it helps
Cyril Widdlechut - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 13:26:13 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144457 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Got some yellow tips / patches on the newest growth at the top
Cyril Widdlechut - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 13:26:59 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144458 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Cyril Widdlechut - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 16:45:16 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144460 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Is that a fucking male pre flower?
Samuel Wonnerwere - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 16:27:11 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144474 Ignore Report Quick Reply
On further inspection, the 'drooping' on the lower leaves appears to have been caused by the base of the stems swelling and pushing the fan leaves underneath it down. This is probably why I couldn't see signs of over / under feeding.

Topped at the 6th node today, still a long way to go in veg :(
Phineas Hettingbanks - Mon, 10 Apr 2017 08:24:14 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144494 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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All is well, recovering from top nicely.

Pot being so big makes LST annoying because alot of the stems aren't near the edge of the pot yet. They're still easy to bend though so will be starting LST as soon as its convenient to do so.
Fucking Honeyspear - Mon, 10 Apr 2017 10:19:58 EST ID:Udw+ODs0 No.144495 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't see any testicles dude
Phineas Hettingbanks - Mon, 10 Apr 2017 13:21:05 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144500 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Yeah it sprouted a pistil, it was just a little chunky and was the first one that appeared so scared me
Frederick Budgelock - Thu, 13 Apr 2017 07:43:26 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144559 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Growth has really taken off now, the previous pic was taken on monday, this is one taken today (thursday).

Will start topping the 12 branches after they're tied down and have grown upwards a bit.
Cedric Gigglefoot - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 17:06:14 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144583 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I was actually wrong, it wasn't a pistil, its another set of leaves trying to grow out of where a preflower should be for some reason. I've seen this happen before but only down the bottom of the plant near the first set of leaves.

Tied down 10 of the 12 stems, messy job but nothing was damaged so who cares.
Jarvis Gillydale - Sun, 16 Apr 2017 08:46:44 EST ID:g0QPbiTS No.144585 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Looking good dude!

Gotta love to see the training apply as is should.

I'd top the 12 branches when they've gotten 2-4 sets of nodes in them.
When you stop the vertical grow, you'll make it explode horizontally.

But it wont growing upwards, it'll just hinder the process.
So no worries there.
Keep up the good work!
Isabella Chigglestock - Sun, 16 Apr 2017 16:11:56 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144586 Ignore Report Quick Reply

It's responding very well to the LST. Once the last 2 branches are long enough to tie down and the last set of topping is done, all that's left is to wait for the desired height.

Can't wait to flip this.
Polly Trotstock - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 18:13:47 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144597 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Tied down the final 2 branches.

Now all that's left is to top the 12 main branches and let it grow to desired height.
Shitting Dinkinwill - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 14:10:40 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144629 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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All is well, topped the highest of the 12 branches because they were getting pretty tall, just waiting for another set of branches on the other 10 then will top those.
Matilda Pingerlere - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:02:00 EST ID:IaBz+5kP No.144634 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Nice job on the training holmes! Looks great so far, those are gonna grow into some big beautiful buds.
Alice Sockledit - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 15:05:16 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144635 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Topped the rest of the branches. It looks a little stressed, maybe from the topping, hopefully will perk back up soon.

Will be starting flowering soon as my supply is running now and even if I flipped now I'd have enough to last me until my next grow finishes.
Esther Fugglekire - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 19:15:54 EST ID:xCjYWm+N No.144640 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Toppings take a toll. I just gave a big chop to one of my plants, and she went from drinking 1/2 gallon a day to just a few ounces. Rebounding a bit more every day. One reason I like DWC, is that I can literally see how much the plant eats. More water used = more growth. Etc etc.
Sidney Snodford - Fri, 28 Apr 2017 07:38:25 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144655 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not looking too good at the moment. Been droopy and lifeless since the last set of toppings. Pretty slow growth.

I thought I'd been over watering so I held off for a little, have been waiting until soil is dry to water but as soon as I water (with ~10% runoff just to be sure I'm not overdoing it), it goes right from displaying signs of underwatering to looking like its overwatered.

Leaves feel dry, light is appropriate distance from plant so its not that. Not too sure whats going on here to be honest.
Shitting Nillychet - Fri, 28 Apr 2017 10:33:34 EST ID:IaBz+5kP No.144657 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You're doing fine, that's typical with topping a lot of branches. My plants usually take a full week to "bounce back" after a topping.

This is the watering guide I use. Wet the whole surface of the soil slowly, letting air get sucked down. Then water only along the edges. Then water straight down into the main root ball. I use about 3/4s of a solo cup for each step, spaced out over a couple hours. Make sure you use the lift method to get a feel for when the plants need water.
Sidney Snodford - Fri, 28 Apr 2017 11:21:16 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144658 Ignore Report Quick Reply

It actually has perked up a little in the last few hours which is nice. The biggest issue I have is getting to the soil to water it, its almost 100% blocked by leaves.

I accidentally got some nutrient water on a couple of the leaves which burnt them a little which sucks but nothing major.

Part of me wants to flip it on the 8 week veg mark for a quicker harvest, but I also want to leave it a few weeks longer to allow all the new main stems to thicken up.
Sidney Snodford - Fri, 28 Apr 2017 14:32:56 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144659 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Angus Chiddlenot - Fri, 28 Apr 2017 23:14:52 EST ID:xCjYWm+N No.144660 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Looking good. Lots of growth going on there. Nice.
Caroline Hankinbanks - Sun, 30 Apr 2017 18:41:21 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144662 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Vertical growth has shot up in the last 36 hours, its gone back to drinking a fuckload, very surprised at how thirsty it is.

It will be week 8 on wednesday, I think I'll probably veg it until the start of week 10 to make sure its fully recovered from the multiple choppings.
Charlotte Ginnerfoot - Sun, 30 Apr 2017 22:20:15 EST ID:xCjYWm+N No.144663 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It is crazy how much they can drink. It really becomes apparent in DWC rigs. I just switched into flower tonight, because my plants were growing too fast. I was even down to switching feedings with straight water. Now I have to switch them over to flower nutes. Which is gonna get interesting. Not sure if I should just feed flower nutes until it is all flower nutes in there, or do a full water swap.

Anyway, waiting for recovery is a good idea. In the very least, get some more vegetation there to fill it out.
Martin Hennerdale - Mon, 01 May 2017 06:00:21 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144665 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I imagine it has a fairly monster root system by now, I wish I could see it
Sidney Drangerdug - Thu, 04 May 2017 08:04:26 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144671 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Just got a letter saying works will be taking place where my tent is, have no choice but to flip to flowering now and hope it finishes by then.

Such a waste.
Beatrice Blytheforth - Sat, 06 May 2017 08:37:10 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144680 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Damn, its only been 2 days since I started 12/12 and its already shooting upwards like crazy, hopefully it will finish fast.
Wesley Gaffingstudge - Mon, 08 May 2017 08:11:33 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144689 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Graham Wirrystock - Tue, 09 May 2017 19:43:06 EST ID:AODbkTVf No.144692 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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go hydro!! you won't look back.
Augustus Cherryhedging - Tue, 09 May 2017 23:36:46 EST ID:xCjYWm+N No.144693 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Went DWC and am not looking back...
John Blangerlire - Wed, 10 May 2017 08:24:21 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144694 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I'd been considering it but all of the reasonably priced single plant DWC systems I can find online all have loads of comments about leaking tanks and shit airstones, seems like a lot more hassle than dumping a bag of soil.
Augustus Cherryhedging - Wed, 10 May 2017 18:15:42 EST ID:xCjYWm+N No.144695 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I have 4 of the "bucket" rigs. Zero leaks, and zero problems with airstones. Dirt cheap on Amazon.

I just saw a full single bucket system for under $50 shipped.

Here is the thing my friend...I was like you once. I was like, "Fuck...hydro looks like a hassle.." Then I tried it.

It is not a hassle, and it is crazy good.

I have two huge Sativas starting flower right now. I got them to massive size from clones in about 10 weeks. And the clones were kind of shitty, and I probably could have cut that down to 9 weeks. Far faster than soil.

Here is literally all I do.

  • Take an empty milk jug (If you are Canadian, please do not attempt this with a milk bag.)
  • Using a $1.00 catheter syringe, I simply follow the dosing instructions on the back of my General Hydroponics bottles and mix up a gallon of nutes. I add either 5, 10, or 15MLs of each solution to the gallon of water. It is literally so easy a monkey could do it.
  • Using the same syringe, I add about 2/4 of an ML of Ph Down to bring my Ph to around 5.9. This is something I easily learned simply by using a cheap Ph meter to determine how much from a syringe I needed to bring my down tap water Ph (no need for "ZOMG! RO WATER!" unless your tap water is fucked up.) My tap water is insanely consistent in Ph. And you don't need to be exact. Just under 6.5 and above 5.5.

  • Put on cap and shake.

  • Then, I look at the drain tubing level on the side of the bucket. As per installation instructions, I setup a line of the drain tubing at "full." All I have to do every day is top off the nutrient solution. Look at the tube...add the solution until it hits the line.

That is it.


So fucking easy. Often I will fill a couple of jugs with pre-mix at the start of the week to make it quicker to dose. But, I right now have 2 in flower and 2 in veg, with so many clones coming that I am literally giving away 6 to a friend tomorrow. All 4 plants are in DWC. I would do more, but I ran out of room and power outlets.

Literally, my biggest problem is that the plants in flower might get too tall and that the veg plants might be ready to flower before I have the space.

Not a bad problem to have.

And shit, dude...post questions here. I will answer what I can. DWC is super easy, and I'll walk you through it if you need me to.
Molly Sennerham - Thu, 11 May 2017 07:34:35 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144697 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Yeah see that already sounds like too much hassle for me, tap > watering can > soil is nice and low maintenance.

Only been a week and buds are already starting to show a little.
Angus Clayshaw - Thu, 11 May 2017 18:50:45 EST ID:xCjYWm+N No.144698 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ummm....you don't use fertilizer at all? Same thing.
Molly Sennerham - Thu, 11 May 2017 19:14:36 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144699 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Of course I use fertilizer, I don't PH my water, never have.
Archie Pickshaw - Fri, 12 May 2017 16:28:45 EST ID:xCjYWm+N No.144700 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You may want to. Seriously. Ph plays a factor in not a few ailments that can sneak up on you.

You may also be lucky and have slightly acidic water.
Ernest Fanderwell - Mon, 15 May 2017 08:20:16 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144711 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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11 days from flip
Walter Clizzlebidge - Tue, 16 May 2017 07:23:01 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144712 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Lower fan leaves are starting to droop heavily and die, the upper leaves are all standing to attention to I'm assuming this is just the plant killing off lower leaves that aren't getting enough light.

Some of it is nute water burn from feeding though.
William Snodham - Sat, 20 May 2017 23:12:03 EST ID:JdAET1jz No.144722 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Leaf drop from undercanopy is 3 things in order of likelihood: Overwatering, pests if curled margins of leaves (russet mite specifically), and lack of nitrogen
Priscilla Pittforth - Sun, 21 May 2017 15:00:37 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144725 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I'm waiting until soil is dry an inch deep before watering, the leaves are usually just starting to droop a tiny bit from being thirsty when I water.

Feeding is according to the foxfarm chart / schedule so shouldn't be any issues there. I've check the leaves and soil and no sign of pests.
Hamilton Fackleway - Mon, 22 May 2017 13:04:41 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144727 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Whole plant is droopy now. Getting kind of pissed off with it because its being fed and watered properly, literally no reason for this drooping yet it won't go away.

Picture here, at this rate it won't make it to the end of flowering.
Hamilton Fackleway - Mon, 22 May 2017 14:58:35 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144728 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Update, gave it some extra nitrogen on a feed and it perked up a fair bit, seems to be a nitrogen deficiency, which is odd considering I noticed some tips curling last week showing there was too much nitrogen.

Also getting sick of soil, but all of the pre assembled DWC systems have comments about the air stones being too weak and pipes leaking and such, which single plant system is ready to go out of the box with no extra parts needed? Price doesn't bother me I just want quality equipment with no DIY, something that seems to be hard to come across with DWC.
Nicholas Bevingstone - Mon, 22 May 2017 18:35:30 EST ID:xCjYWm+N No.144731 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not sure what to tell you...

I mean, yeah weak pumps and stuff are a problem. Never had a leak yet, but I also bought a 10 pack of 1/2 elbows on Amazon so I can replace anything that snaps, since, yeah, they can snap.

What you should do, if you can, is see if a local grow shop sells the buckets and shit pre-drilled. I have one in my area that does. You can buy the bucket with a basket all fixed and ready to go. Then, buy the pump you want and the airstones you want.

I know it is still DIY....but it is basic DIY. Literally just putting hoses on things.
Molly Smallshaw - Mon, 22 May 2017 18:58:36 EST ID:pbIemdxD No.144732 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Fuck Surringsock - Wed, 24 May 2017 09:41:47 EST ID:VIom4Jxy No.144743 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dayum, looks like a nasty case of overwatering.
Drooping rarely comes from anything else.
With a 50L pot, I wouldn't be surprised.
I'd guess that you're experiencing the effects of not putting in enough aeration material.
The sudden perk-up probably came from the air that was pushed into the roots as you watered.
Start using the lifting method to see when the pot is actually dry.
No fingering the soil, that's just unreliable.

And lay off the nitrogen at this point.
Won't do any good for a budding plant.
I've seen countless fuck-ups of over fertilizing in veg and then flipping to flower while there's leaf shedding going on.
Then it usually spreads like wildfire and growers think it's a deficiency.

If you're not willing to go full hydro - i'd suggest coco.
A hempy bucket system to be exact.
Switched from growshop-grade soil mixes to coco and haven't looked back.
It's more fluffy, dries out faster and just easier to maintain.
Combo that with AN's pH perfect nutes and you got a no-brainer.
Just sit back and watch the fuckers explode.

Hannah Nondermock - Wed, 24 May 2017 15:46:44 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144744 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Everything is under control now, leaves are all standing. Aeration shouldn't be an issue, the soil came pre mixed with perlite.

Buds are growing visible amounts per day, really hoping it finishes before the works going on require access to the grow area. Might end up having to cut early which fucking sucks because I wanted to still be vegging at this point.
Thomas Chirrywidge - Tue, 30 May 2017 07:20:11 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144770 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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26 days from flip. Buds are taking form, already have a few orange pistils, never seen that this early before.
Lillian Buncocke - Tue, 30 May 2017 08:33:40 EST ID:TU9NXay7 No.144771 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Looks nice!
With a strain that's marketed to finish in 50-60 days I wouldn't be surprised of the few orange ones.
I was wondering.. You have works coming into the space and you probably can't go till the very end - right?
Have you considered upping the amount of darkness to accelerate ripening?
I've seen journals where people do this when there's a time limit.
Or when they're just experimenting or have issues with patience.

The yields will be reduced, but you'll have more mature buds.
Speaking from experience, quality beats quantity every time.
Thomas Chirrywidge - Tue, 30 May 2017 13:03:51 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144772 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Hadn't considered that. It's highly unlikely that the works will reach the building before it finishes, but I have no way of knowing for sure.

It appears to be finishing very fast so hopefully I lucked out and got one of the faster finishing phenos, which is nice considering the blue cheese plant I harvested before this took 14 fucking weeks to finish and was lankier than the sativas I grew before that.
Fanny Nabbermere - Tue, 30 May 2017 14:01:15 EST ID:xCjYWm+N No.144773 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah, between genotypes and phenotypes, you can get thrown some weird stuff. I've seen "sativas," that finish really early and "indicas" that act like sativas.
Cyril Lightstock - Sun, 04 Jun 2017 11:34:40 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144809 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Fattening up, starting to get frosty
Cyril Lightstock - Sun, 04 Jun 2017 11:36:41 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144810 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Augustus Pandersick - Mon, 12 Jun 2017 16:41:20 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144839 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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2 and a half weeks left
Augustus Pandersick - Mon, 12 Jun 2017 16:42:47 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144840 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Augustus Druzzlebetch - Tue, 13 Jun 2017 15:28:42 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144848 Ignore Report Quick Reply

So this is looking to be finished about the 29th, and the works seem to be well behind schedule.

Whats the deal with revegging plants that have been harvested? I don't want to risk starting a new grow after this one incase I randomly have to kill it, but if I was to harvest all but a few small parts of this one and swap it back to veg lighting times I could start using the already big root system, thoughts?
Shit Neblingson - Tue, 13 Jun 2017 20:58:37 EST ID:5Oi/BJlT No.144850 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Revegging is possible, but you never get quite the vigor and strength you do of a straight run. Better off using clones taken during veg, or revegg to grab clones. The clones will be hardy.
Shit Neblingson - Tue, 13 Jun 2017 21:02:39 EST ID:5Oi/BJlT No.144851 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Looking nice. Looks a lot like my GSC Extreme plant. Low growing and thick.
Basil Pizzleham - Wed, 14 Jun 2017 08:29:43 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144852 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There isn't much bud going on below the main canopy, it seems to just be blocking all the light. Instead of revegging I'll probably just harvest down to the lower buds then lower the light and try give them a little extra time to grow.

Alot of the inside of the plant has actually died and almost fallen off, assuming because it wasn't getting enough light.
David Sinkinbine - Wed, 14 Jun 2017 22:15:55 EST ID:5Oi/BJlT No.144855 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not enough light, and the plant tends to use those lower leaves as nice little energy reserves that they draw on during blooming.
John Sossleworth - Thu, 15 Jun 2017 15:20:31 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144860 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I did a little bit of light LST so the lower parts can get more light in the last 2 weeks. Lowered light a little and now alot more bud is getting direct light. Probably should have done this a few weeks ago.

The canopy was so dense pretty much only the top buds were growing, everything else is popcorn.
Jarvis Brummlebutch - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 06:53:20 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144930 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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~5 days to go
Jack Hallerway - Tue, 27 Jun 2017 06:29:10 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144948 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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These were the best pics I could get with the light off / unable to find the buds to take a photo.

It will be 8 weeks flowering on the 29th, and this does appear to be a heavily indica leaning fast finishing pheno, but I'm still unsure of how long to leave it.

I can't get a good view of trichomes, don't have a magnifier of a proper camera so this is the best I'm going to get and I can't tell trich colour because of the flash.

Read places about leaving plants an extra 2 weeks as the breeder usually gives the fastest possible time under peak conditions, but not sure if I should do this or not.
Jack Hallerway - Tue, 27 Jun 2017 06:30:01 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144949 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Molly Bimblelig - Tue, 27 Jun 2017 14:17:01 EST ID:5Oi/BJlT No.144951 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Wait two more weeks.
Phoebe Greenspear - Wed, 28 Jun 2017 14:48:44 EST ID:QA3fkfjj No.144955 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I would wait as well, but it also depends on the type of high you want. If there is a big discrepancy in ripeness between higher and lower buds you could also partly harvest.
Henry Greenway - Wed, 28 Jun 2017 15:28:43 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144958 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I'm more of a fan of stony smokes, but I don't want to just grow sleep medicine. I cut a bud off my last blue cheese plant before the rest and the high was so different it was like different weed.
Isabella Grandstock - Thu, 29 Jun 2017 10:17:47 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144963 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Isabella Grandstock - Thu, 29 Jun 2017 10:18:32 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144964 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Isabella Grandstock - Thu, 29 Jun 2017 10:19:35 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144965 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Isabella Grandstock - Thu, 29 Jun 2017 10:22:49 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144966 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Basil Gidgeshit - Mon, 03 Jul 2017 14:56:47 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144998 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Don't know why I didn't do this before but I put my old 70w LED light in the tent for a light boost in the final 2 weeks, I forgot I had it. I have it hanging horizontal behind the plant to give below the canopy a little boost.
Frederick Bindlepot - Tue, 04 Jul 2017 15:08:09 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.145002 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Just had to harvest branch early because it fell over on its own weight and snapped a little. Hope the cut doesn't slow down growth too much :/
Edwin Burringfield - Tue, 04 Jul 2017 15:26:29 EST ID:5Oi/BJlT No.145003 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The cut shouldn't be an issue. And hey, at least you get an early taste....
Frederick Bindlepot - Tue, 04 Jul 2017 15:41:04 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.145004 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Yeah thats what I was thinking, it smells so dank now its been cut off. I did try to tie it up and get it to stand but the ties I had were too weak.

It feels heavy for its size even wet, looking like its super dense.
Hugh Gellyfire - Wed, 05 Jul 2017 17:49:15 EST ID:5Oi/BJlT No.145005 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>It feels heavy for its size even wet, looking like its super dense.

Always a good sign.
Isabella Clishlot - Sat, 08 Jul 2017 18:48:21 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.145013 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The branch that fell off is actually already dry due to the heat wave we're having here at the moment, and I can honestly say I've never come across buds more dense than this one, I hope they're all like this.

Very strong liquorice smell when ground up.
Angus Trotdale - Sat, 08 Jul 2017 19:31:28 EST ID:5Oi/BJlT No.145014 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Good to hear you had a success! Sounds like it will be a great crop.
Samuel Crottinghood - Tue, 11 Jul 2017 00:45:18 EST ID:5Oi/BJlT No.145021 Ignore Report Quick Reply
BTW, I just "downgraded" from a 1000w HPS in my tent to a Mars Hydro 600. Already temps in the tent are down 10 degrees F. Which is what I needed. Good to hear it is a good light. Sort of the one I could afford and could get in time. Some of my tops were starting to touch the glass!
Fanny Blatherway - Tue, 11 Jul 2017 08:56:00 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.145022 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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The top leaves of mine are looking heat stressed at the moment, the heat wave here fucked with them alot. I have all the ventilation I own going at the moment and temps are still hitting 32c. I know this is bad but there isn't really alot I can do about it.

Cutting in 2 days though, the canopy leaves have only just started to yellow now, making me think it might need another week but still most likely have to harvest on thursday due to time constraints on the works.
Fanny Blatherway - Tue, 11 Jul 2017 09:05:04 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.145023 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Angus Tootspear - Thu, 13 Jul 2017 06:03:01 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.145030 Ignore Report Quick Reply
About to harvest, just waiting on someone to come help because fuck trimming all this alone.
Angus Tootspear - Thu, 13 Jul 2017 12:29:04 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.145031 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Beatrice Facklestet - Fri, 14 Jul 2017 16:54:27 EST ID:5Oi/BJlT No.145032 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Looks nice. Tight buds from the look of it.
Polly Brookway - Mon, 17 Jul 2017 16:19:50 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.145039 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Walter Crossleludge - Fri, 21 Jul 2017 10:33:50 EST ID:rKpmOVHw No.145062 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Those bananas tho
Lillian Mucklehun - Fri, 21 Jul 2017 10:58:53 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.145063 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Phyllis Cennerfane - Sat, 22 Jul 2017 16:51:50 EST ID:5Oi/BJlT No.145066 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Congrats to OP for having a good grow and being able to smoke the finest weed in the world...which is weed you grow yourself.
Walter Grimworth - Sat, 22 Jul 2017 17:57:34 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.145067 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Its a nice smoke, definitely far better than the stuff available for sale where I am. I actually see the bananas, probably caused by the extreme heat wave we had here in the last 3 weeks of flowering. It was abnormally hot and I couldn't keep the temp down. Who cares really shit smokes good.
Fucking Grimfield - Sun, 23 Jul 2017 23:49:07 EST ID:5Oi/BJlT No.145068 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Long as the smoke is nice, you have a winner.

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