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Big pot grow by Charlotte Trotfield - Thu, 30 Mar 2017 06:33:04 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144374 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Growing Cookies Kush by Barney's Farm, figured I'd do a log this time.

Using just over 50L of canna terra soil, mars hydro 600w LED (~240w actual draw) and foxfarm trio nutrients.

Until recently I'd been growing 2 small plants in a smaller tent, but this time I decided I prefer one big plant. Goal is to use large pot size and longer veg time to get some huge yields.

Pic posted is 25 days from seed. Will be topping and using LST. Any advice / questions welcomed.
Beatrice Gammertene - Thu, 30 Mar 2017 06:48:49 EST ID:nTM1TGvH No.144376 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The pot is very big for a plant that size
So you gotta take it slow with the watering.
It's very easy to choke a small plant without noticing.

Get the maximum amount of branches by topping and lst.
I'd recommend doing multiple toppings to really utilize that space.

You're looking at a long vegging phase, but it'll pay off in the end.

Try to keep the plant small if you don't have a scrog net.
As they like to double or triple their size in the flowering phase.

I got a nice even canopy on a Barneys LSD by topping three times.
I thought of my grow space as a clock that has to get a branch on every number.
By doing this I got my whole room filled and a bit more than I wanted.
So there wasn't any pain in cutting the lower growth when going into 12/12.

Wish I had a pic, it would make a lot more sense than my ramblings.

Anyhow, good luck on this. I'll be checking in from time to time to see hows it going.
Charlotte Trotfield - Thu, 30 Mar 2017 07:07:44 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144377 Ignore Report Quick Reply

The tent is 120x120x200 so I have a fair bit of space. Tent is away from home, which is annoying as it makes checking on it a chore.

When you say multiple toppings, do you mean topping once, then topping the 2 branches that sprout from the top site, or just topping every branch? Last grow was learning the basics so still new to topping and LST
Beatrice Gammertene - Thu, 30 Mar 2017 08:45:21 EST ID:nTM1TGvH No.144385 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Maybe top at the 6th node.
You'll get 12 branches, then you wait for those to get 1-4 sets of nodes.
Then you top those branches as well.
And repeat once or twice until you have enough branches to fill the space completely.
It's good to top every branch that goes "out of line".
There's always that one stick that tries to fuck up every other branches opportunity to get light.
So you gotta keep those fuckers in check with regular beatings.

You can try supercropping which leaves you with more nodes.
It's basically like topping, but you just twist the tip so it almost breaks off.
Then you bend it into 90 degree angle.
The nodes under the bend-site will be triggered to grow faster, cause the plant has been tricked into thinking that the tip was cut off.

I've got a diary here, the low budget grow, so feel free to go check to see how supercropping works in action.
Martin Snodham - Mon, 03 Apr 2017 15:00:29 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144411 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Having some annoyances with the environment which is irritating. Heat is currently hovering around 28C / 29C, but the humidity is dropping below 40% so I'm hesitant to turn on the extraction because it will drop the humidity even lower.

Once the plant is big enough the humidity should even out, hopefully will happen before outside temps start getting high.

Also accidentally gave the plant a misting with some big bloom in the water instead of clean water so some of the fan leaves have brown marks on them from the dried fertilizer, doesn't seem like a big deal so won't bother cleaning it off incase I damage the leaves.

Growth is slow at the moment :(
Fucking Grimdock - Mon, 03 Apr 2017 17:54:35 EST ID:JdMjclHL No.144413 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You can put in a tray with water to raise the humidity
Shit Pivingchore - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 15:33:04 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144441 Ignore Report Quick Reply
For some reason the bottom 2 sets of fan leaves are drooping almost down to the soil. The higher ones aren't really drooping.

Its been watered, I thought I overdid it but the top inch of soil is dry again after 2 days so I can't have given it that much.
Martha Dartfoot - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 18:35:03 EST ID:JdMjclHL No.144442 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I had that and suspected over watering
small plant in a big pot = easy to over water and fertilize until it grown big
Cyril Widdlechut - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 05:47:35 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144445 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Getting fairly frustrated with the drooping leaves, can't figure out why its doing it. I thought it was overwatering but I waited until the soil was bone dry to make sure, and it only got worse.

Its been I think 3-4 days since I last watered, maybe its underwatered? The pics of under and over watered plant on grow weed easy both look exactly the same so thats no help. 4 fan leaves are touching the soil from drooping now.
Cyril Widdlechut - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 06:31:05 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144446 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Pic here, you can see the lower leaf drooping down. The leaves feel papery so I'm going with underwatering. I was following advice to go easy on the watering but it keeps getting worse so I gave it a drink.
Ian Worthingman - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 08:47:07 EST ID:QI1rXhZY No.144447 Ignore Report Quick Reply
your plant is fine. the rest of the leaves look great as far as i can tell. the bottom are facing that way because thats the best way for them to get light. Look up phototropism if you want to learn something.
Ian Worthingman - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 08:59:05 EST ID:QI1rXhZY No.144448 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's not as easy with you're big pot, but I would gauge if a plant needed water by picking it up and feeling the weight of it. If it felt really light I would water it until I saw water come out the drainage holes, then test and dump that liquid.
Cyril Widdlechut - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 09:30:22 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144449 Ignore Report Quick Reply

How many L of water is suitable per feed for a pot this size?
Augustus Marrypone - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 10:23:38 EST ID:JdMjclHL No.144450 Ignore Report Quick Reply
how long is the right length of a rope
Ian Worthingman - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 11:00:57 EST ID:QI1rXhZY No.144451 Ignore Report Quick Reply
water the media until moist and you have water collecting on your drain dish. pick pot up and let drain until water stops coming out. set pot down on something while you dump the dish of the drained water. set plant back on dish. Repeat this every 5-7 days if that. How often depends on climate and how much the plant drinks, so it's hard to say how often. Better off keeping things on the dry side as it's less risk and can actually increase potency by stressing the plant. Even though you claim to have grown before, I feel like it would be most wise for you to go back and brush up on the basics, because plant watering/feeding is one of them. While you're at it look up deep water culture. It's hydro, but so simple and the roots just sit in a tub of water with nutrients mixed and when i water i basically refill back to the line on the container.
Cyril Widdlechut - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 13:08:45 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144455 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I had no feeding issues with my last grows, it just seems as if people have been telling me to go easier on the water than I should because of the large pot.
Cyril Widdlechut - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 13:24:23 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144456 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Heres a pic of the actual droop incase it helps
Cyril Widdlechut - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 13:26:13 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144457 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Got some yellow tips / patches on the newest growth at the top
Cyril Widdlechut - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 13:26:59 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144458 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Cyril Widdlechut - Thu, 06 Apr 2017 16:45:16 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144460 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Is that a fucking male pre flower?
Samuel Wonnerwere - Sat, 08 Apr 2017 16:27:11 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144474 Ignore Report Quick Reply
On further inspection, the 'drooping' on the lower leaves appears to have been caused by the base of the stems swelling and pushing the fan leaves underneath it down. This is probably why I couldn't see signs of over / under feeding.

Topped at the 6th node today, still a long way to go in veg :(
Phineas Hettingbanks - Mon, 10 Apr 2017 08:24:14 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144494 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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All is well, recovering from top nicely.

Pot being so big makes LST annoying because alot of the stems aren't near the edge of the pot yet. They're still easy to bend though so will be starting LST as soon as its convenient to do so.
Fucking Honeyspear - Mon, 10 Apr 2017 10:19:58 EST ID:Udw+ODs0 No.144495 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't see any testicles dude
Phineas Hettingbanks - Mon, 10 Apr 2017 13:21:05 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144500 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Yeah it sprouted a pistil, it was just a little chunky and was the first one that appeared so scared me
Frederick Budgelock - Thu, 13 Apr 2017 07:43:26 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144559 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Growth has really taken off now, the previous pic was taken on monday, this is one taken today (thursday).

Will start topping the 12 branches after they're tied down and have grown upwards a bit.
Cedric Gigglefoot - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 17:06:14 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144583 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I was actually wrong, it wasn't a pistil, its another set of leaves trying to grow out of where a preflower should be for some reason. I've seen this happen before but only down the bottom of the plant near the first set of leaves.

Tied down 10 of the 12 stems, messy job but nothing was damaged so who cares.
Jarvis Gillydale - Sun, 16 Apr 2017 08:46:44 EST ID:g0QPbiTS No.144585 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Looking good dude!

Gotta love to see the training apply as is should.

I'd top the 12 branches when they've gotten 2-4 sets of nodes in them.
When you stop the vertical grow, you'll make it explode horizontally.

But it wont growing upwards, it'll just hinder the process.
So no worries there.
Keep up the good work!
Isabella Chigglestock - Sun, 16 Apr 2017 16:11:56 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144586 Ignore Report Quick Reply

It's responding very well to the LST. Once the last 2 branches are long enough to tie down and the last set of topping is done, all that's left is to wait for the desired height.

Can't wait to flip this.
Polly Trotstock - Tue, 18 Apr 2017 18:13:47 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144597 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Tied down the final 2 branches.

Now all that's left is to top the 12 main branches and let it grow to desired height.
Shitting Dinkinwill - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 14:10:40 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144629 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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All is well, topped the highest of the 12 branches because they were getting pretty tall, just waiting for another set of branches on the other 10 then will top those.
Matilda Pingerlere - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 20:02:00 EST ID:IaBz+5kP No.144634 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Nice job on the training holmes! Looks great so far, those are gonna grow into some big beautiful buds.
Alice Sockledit - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 15:05:16 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144635 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Topped the rest of the branches. It looks a little stressed, maybe from the topping, hopefully will perk back up soon.

Will be starting flowering soon as my supply is running now and even if I flipped now I'd have enough to last me until my next grow finishes.
Esther Fugglekire - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 19:15:54 EST ID:xCjYWm+N No.144640 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Toppings take a toll. I just gave a big chop to one of my plants, and she went from drinking 1/2 gallon a day to just a few ounces. Rebounding a bit more every day. One reason I like DWC, is that I can literally see how much the plant eats. More water used = more growth. Etc etc.
Sidney Snodford - Fri, 28 Apr 2017 07:38:25 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144655 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not looking too good at the moment. Been droopy and lifeless since the last set of toppings. Pretty slow growth.

I thought I'd been over watering so I held off for a little, have been waiting until soil is dry to water but as soon as I water (with ~10% runoff just to be sure I'm not overdoing it), it goes right from displaying signs of underwatering to looking like its overwatered.

Leaves feel dry, light is appropriate distance from plant so its not that. Not too sure whats going on here to be honest.
Shitting Nillychet - Fri, 28 Apr 2017 10:33:34 EST ID:IaBz+5kP No.144657 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You're doing fine, that's typical with topping a lot of branches. My plants usually take a full week to "bounce back" after a topping.

This is the watering guide I use. Wet the whole surface of the soil slowly, letting air get sucked down. Then water only along the edges. Then water straight down into the main root ball. I use about 3/4s of a solo cup for each step, spaced out over a couple hours. Make sure you use the lift method to get a feel for when the plants need water.
Sidney Snodford - Fri, 28 Apr 2017 11:21:16 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144658 Ignore Report Quick Reply

It actually has perked up a little in the last few hours which is nice. The biggest issue I have is getting to the soil to water it, its almost 100% blocked by leaves.

I accidentally got some nutrient water on a couple of the leaves which burnt them a little which sucks but nothing major.

Part of me wants to flip it on the 8 week veg mark for a quicker harvest, but I also want to leave it a few weeks longer to allow all the new main stems to thicken up.
Sidney Snodford - Fri, 28 Apr 2017 14:32:56 EST ID:aWb7Y/oB No.144659 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Angus Chiddlenot - Fri, 28 Apr 2017 23:14:52 EST ID:xCjYWm+N No.144660 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Looking good. Lots of growth going on there. Nice.

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