/del/ Deliriant Discussion
Anyone ever feel when your on a high dose of dph that fapping kinda of takes the edge off the hallucinations? Like you don't seem them as intensely?
Cuz orgasm releases acetylcholine and other neurotransmitters. That's why too much fapping causes brain fog.
>>121355Is this truly true?
well lately my dumb ass has been wanting to /del/ve and last night i tried for the first time in years. i took 400mg dimenhydrinate and only had slight audio hallucinations / visual distortions. the most interesting aspect of my night was hearing my heart beat. like i didnt hear it because it was pounding so hard, it was pounding lightly and normally from what i remember. but i heard it through my ears.it actually soothed me so much i fell asleep. but anyways i have heard here and there that seroquel can be used for a deliriant if you fight it. so if i were to try and fight it what should my dose be? also i weight 180lbs and have a heavy drug tolerance due to recent heavy dxm use (long term use over the years also) so please try to keep that in mind when answering my question. hopefully i can hear from someone soon so i can possibly start a fucking stupid ass night of fighting sleep medicine \m/
>>121377HA!I just drylled last night. I take a seroquel every night as its prescribed to me. I use a seroquel toward the end of my trip so I can sleep.I've been taking it for about 6 years and the only thing it does to you when you fight is make you slightly "delirious". It's the most powerful antipsychotic and you'll feel extremely lethargic. You'll get uncontrollable hunger and your body will feel heavy. Many people get extreme cotton mouth (I dont). Your motor skills will be slightly impaired but it's not fun. You don't get delirious dph. You get extremely tired and will feel off. The sedative effects will last wel into the next day also. Don't take it, there's nothing fun about it.
This stuff has a huge list of side effects but none of them are delirium or hallucinations.
thanks for the answers. i more then likely not be taking my seroquel tonight period, definitely will not be abusing it either. it just lays around so i figured it could be worth a try to hit delirium. maybe ill walk to the store and buy some dph. probably wont because its fucking cold out. nb because my question has been answered.
looks like im tripping again tonight. probably 600/300 but i might up it to 600/600 for kicks.can i get some people in here with me? ive got to run to the store still but im planning on starting between 9-10 oclock tonight
>>121319dude where the hell are you getting something thats not dph hcl? i was wondering about other analogues recently, simalrly to how dxm has hbr and plystryx (sp?)
>>121365The brand name is Nautamine. But diacefylline diphenhydramine is DPH + stimulant, so it's probably not worth buying it. It's just that they had no DPH Hcl in my pharmacy. And nothing too much interesting happened with 720mg of diacefylline diphenhydramine. Better music appreciation / sensibility to sound, sedation combined with restlesness, dry mouth and a long sleep is all I got.
>>121367Oh and the fap was good. nb
>>121367so more like dimenhyrdinate?try 900mg next time, im gonna try to find this for science.
>>121375Sorry but I won't buy Dramanine again. Generic DPH (Hcl) is cheaper, and probably safer. I have two (90mg) Dramanine pills left, though. A few days ago, 1 pill was nice for music and mood (I had no tolerance to DPH).
i posted this on /dis/ but not one reply :( so short version >extracted a 148 ml bottle of delsym and ate all the powder 2 hours after dinner (>didnt feel anything til 3 hours after (11 pm) but at 12 the world was spinning>mild out of body with the aid of binural beats (normally dont do shit but worked on dxm lol) >mild fractal patterns if i stared at my cieling for a few minutes>jerking off took mad long and i couldnt feel my dick>all i wanted to do was shake my head or roll around as it made me feel so damn good>could still controll myself and didnt feel too fucked up. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>extracted a 148 ml bottle of delsym and ate all the powder 2 hours after dinner (
>didnt feel anything til 3 hours after (11 pm) but at 12 the world was spinning
>mild out of body with the aid of binural beats (normally dont do shit but worked on dxm lol)
>mild fractal patterns if i stared at my cieling for a few minutes
>jerking off took mad long and i couldnt feel my dick
>all i wanted to do was shake my head or roll around as it made me feel so damn good
>could still controll myself and didnt feel too fucked up.
>>121332This.Though the price is more for less dxm the gels are more kind to your stomach and two bottles should get you where you want to be. (three if you want to hit 4th but expect to vomit red shit)
>>121326Sounds like a medium 2nd plateau trip. I define the 3rd plateau to be when there is a significant dissociation from self identity and you lose your sort of normal patterns of thinking. You'd feel like you don't know who you are or could not differentiate whether you're one person or multiple people and so on. Sometimes you'd feel like you are able to sense some 5th dimensions, as the feelings and sensations are so alien and indescribable.I suppose everyone is different and the particular effects of each plateau maybe debatable and vary from person to person. If you're having fun, keep experimenting and up your doses. Also, try potentiating through enzyme inhibition (white grapefruit, pommegranate), it really changes the trip. Throw some DPH in that bitch if you're feeling adventurous.>>121334I swear by making robo drink out of gel caps. I can easily down 1g+ doses at my own timing and never worry about nausea. The taste isnt that bad either so long as you use a very mild drink like sprite and lots of water. I have a very thourough method of cutting up the gelcaps and extracting their contents, washing them out, making sure im losing minimal dxm in the process. just as good as pure dxm powder in juice, imo.
>Didn't get a response a proper board so I'm going to post in an a completely irrelevant board.You pobably reach a second plateau, the 2nd plateau feels kind of like being drunk and stoned, but at the same time completely different, with a mild amount of disassociation, 3rd plateau is when it really became a dis trip, you will know if you've hit the 3rd.also>Jerking on /dis/lulwut?http://taimapedia.org/index.php?title=DextromethorphanRead this shit and go post on the proper board...P.S: Delsym is a waste of money, go get some robogelsnb
>Didn't get a response a proper board so I'm going to post in an a completely irrelevant board.
>Jerking on /dis/
Also, 444mg wouldn't be a 3rd plateau if you were a featherweight using DXM HBr, DXM polistirex is only about 2/3 the strength
definitely sounds like 2nd. 3rd I don't get that mdma like just random euphoria...and fapping???????????? DXM is the only drug I wouldn't do any sort of sexual activity on...unless your goal is to last forever and feel absolutely nothing. It's kind of fun experience, makes you feel like a God to be totally indifferent to a chick and still maintain to rock her world...but masturbating? defo not high on my list. Worse than sober for sure haha. It does let me know when I've come down though....something very characteristic about any dis and sexuality haha.
Young and experienced psy/dis user.i discontinued the use of psy because i had a few rough times and needed a bit of a break.i often partake in massive ammounts of mxe.i have taken 100mg of DPH and i have 125mg on standbyI have to be quite honest this is my first time and this chemical has always intimidated me, so far no effects and ive heard 100mg is rather low,what do, i do want an enjoyable experience.
Id say i'm in the very right place.225mg was no big deal at all.may bump up to 300 just to drop in and see how its going.
>>121263Low doses wont really give you an idea of what it really is about and tolerance builds really fast
Most people find DPH to be very unenjoyable in the tripping balls doses and either dont wish to repeat the experience again, or repeat it because they have an affinity with subjecting themselves to that brand of confusion and hallucination, or they simply forgot what it was like. Although most will say it's worth doing this dose at least once out of curiosity. Consult taimapedia for a comprehensive guide on doing a dose like this and making sure the setting is appropriate, but you're looking at 700mg-900mg for a trip of that nature.I find 200-300mg to be very enjoyable but there's a fine line around that dose where the negative effects begin to be too pronounced and that makes the difference between sleeping at the end of the night or just rolling around in bed with a movie on because you're too uncomfortable to sleep. But the ultimate goal of this dose is the fap. I'd do it every night if I could. The change in thought process in my approach to porn, and the acutely intense orgasm at the end is what it's all about.This is really the only good effect of a low dose besides mild euphoria if you're lucky enough to get it. Usually you'll spend the night struggling to fight off fleeting moments of anxiety and loss of thought train until it's time to fap, and you'll have to content with a few neutral to negative side effects such as dry mouth, ataxia, shaking, and having to piss every 10 minutes.Make sure you decide what effect you're going for and dose accordingly. It's very much a 2 sided coin between dropping 2-300mg for a fap, or 700mg+ for a trip. If you try and go halfway and do 450 you'll find yourself in a limbo where the negative effects listed above are pronounced to a debilitating degree, especially where confusion and audio hallucinations are concerned, but you wont trip out and wont be able to focus on any task either.
>>121263Im not really much of a /del/ver but i can tell you if your looking for fun a DPH trip dose is not going to be what you expect. I've entered delirium twice in my whole life and both times i found it to be rather uncomfortable. Perhaps as a dis user you would be more comfortable trying a 300/300 combo of DXM/DPH. I have no experience in this field but have heard they tend to cancel out the negatives of both experiences while potentiating the positives. Obviously do your research and decide for yourself but thats my best advice. The doses your taking at the moment aren't really considered trip doses by most within this community
Well...it depends on your preferences. If you are looking for a head change 100-150 is fine. Good for concept visualization...obviously this has it's merits in porn but there are other uses. movies/tv shows you sometimes get cool thoughts on...books/books on tapes are interesting, you can really visualize things that normally take a little bit of mental effort. Like I'll see everything in a room or situation when I'm reading. Normally I just get the gist of a mental picture and keep reading...happens by default on DPH. Kind of cool but nothing beyond what you are capable sober just easier.Trip doses? a Delirium experience is more similar to Lucid Dreaming than anything else...I've had more bizarre lucid dreams than on any drug but DPH is defo a close second. Profoundly interesting, but kind of on a dark levelIF you're into vibes and such, DPH and Datura have THE darkest vibes I've ever encountered. I get really weird shit off people that are on it but it is definitely interesting. If you're willing to Delve into the dark, there's certainly no end to what you "could" find. I'd try the combo if you want a more comfortable trip...I will say that I don't mix anymore because I prefer my Dis/Del trips more or less seperate but they do have scary good synergy. Del is kind of one of those things where I'd go for that first Mystical trip and leave it at that. The sensations are otherworldly and are very unique. Good for rituals and such but I'd be careful ha. When you get into consistent usage del can really shit on you. Change sleep deprivation/weed...many things. You could get lucky and have no issues for quite a while though.
We just got a hold of 70 mg Cetrizine.about to take ~30mg each, what to expect? got experience with dph, anything fancy we're in for? cheers
>>121342Ugh you are in for a bad time. Buckle up
Sup /del/, I'm going on a hike tonight under the full moon in a quarry site. I'm bringing some Datura with me to smoke while I go moongazing. I'll report back what happens tomorrow. If you'd like to join me tonight, please do so!This should be a perfect combination
>>121316I'm pretty sure that's completely false. They smoke it all the time in India
Ok, decided to just smoke a shit ton of datura in my room instead. Too cold for the moon walk. Plus walking at night under the influence of a powerful drug may be dangerous
>>121316 Thats why it's safer to smoke it then eating. Yes it destroys some of the alkaloids, but not all. Much much easier to manage the high on datura without hitting delirium.Enjoy OP sounds fun.
>>121328Ah well either way sounds fun, I love smoking Datura, but would never ingest the seeds or flower again. Just dont trust my mental stability
Oh, God, fapping while on datura feels like I'm going to have a heart attack.
Okay so this topic isn't solely /del/ based but it is something interesting.My body seems to be sensitive to small doses of substances.Examples:300mg DXM - 3rd plateau125mg DPH - Borderline Delirium, hallucinations evident and discernible.A couple tokes of weed - Blazed seeing fractal patterns.And even with frequent use I can still take these same doses and sometimes it gets stronger.Examples: Dosing DXM ~2 years - Used to chug two bottles (700mg) for 3rd plateau. Now I can take 300mg and be shit blasted into the Dextroverse.Dosing DPH ~0.5 years - First time dosed 600 mg, no Delirium only a week long hangover from hell. Now I can take <200mg and trip ass with shadow people errwhere.Does anyone have any clue why I'm not developing a tolerance and why chems are getting stronger the more I take them? I've even TRIED getting a tolerance to both DXM and DPH by doing some crazy ass 300/300's and dexing days upon days in repetition only to find that I just keep getting blasted and sometimes overwhelmed. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
I have noticed reverse tolerance with dph as well but never with dxm
>>121308Isn't reverse tolerance a sign of liver problems?
>>121309I think if you had liver problems all drugs would have reverse tolerance not just dph
Time to get my liver checked haha.Though things such as alcohol, caffeine and kratom don't behave the same.I have a definite tolerance for those even after prolonged use.Maybe my body is just haywired.
Do any of you not seek that ultimate "high"? I'm not the most experienced in drug use, but my tastes bring me away from most drugs. Weed, alcohol, MDMA, meth, and lsd are all "fun" from my experiences, but I don't want that type of high. Dxm by itself is entertaining, but not really what I'm looking for. I don't like the classical high feeling. I like to be dragged away from reality or have something added to my reality, ie hallucinations. The sole purpose I trip is to hallucinate; to see something that isn't there.Dph makes me feel like shit during the trip. My body weighs a lot, it's hard to focus yourself on 1 task, sometimes intense fear and anxiety take over, I get extreme cotton mouth, motor skills are severely impaired, food doesn't taste as good, and my heart beats too quickly. Despite all the negatives, I love it. I seek these hallucinations only when things are going well in life, not to escape life as some drugs are abused. So I wonder if there are others like me. Those that only seek these hallucinations for whatever reason. I find it hard to explain to myself why I enjoy this poison called diphenhydramine. But if you're reading this, I assume you do, and maybe you can shed some light on the subject for me.Anyway, I'll be sharing 2 trip experiences I've had recently.Trip 1- 550mg dph starting at around 11pm with a first time friend (T) doing 500mg that I might have to babysit.My friend and I start taking about 50mg every 2 minutes so we don't get suddenly blasted with a dph high. We are at my friend's house in his car garage. The majority of the trip takes place in this garage. It is out in the open, about 100 feet from the house on a few acres of property. The garage has no front or back door and a car can easily drive through. So we finish taking the dph after about 30 minutes, bundle up, and move from T's car to A's garage (A lives in the house). So we're just chilling in the garage chatting waiting for anything to happen. It's very dark, with some light coming from christmas lights decorated. The woods surround us also.The effects start to kick in. Upon standing up I almost fly through the… Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>121215Seeing shit always from it ? all my friends have that and I had it before I got high on this stuff.., Im on a 500 mg dose right now yesterday I took a 600 mg one GOOD FEELS
>>121214If you're interested in a primarily DPH trip, ~100mgs DXM relieves a decent chunk of the physical dysphoria without changing the character of the trip, except to potentiate it.
>>121215What long term risks are there? I'm not dosing more than once per week, actually around once per month. I know HPPD and related visual problems can occur, but I wasn't aware there was anything else besides a few individuals having bad reactions.>>121217I actually never thought of that.. Good idea I'm definitely going to try it. There should still be potentiation so I'll lower the dph dose a bit. I can't wait now haha.
>sitting in room>"fuck I wanna get messed up!">I spies Walgreen sleeping pills, bout twenty left>dump unknown amount into gullet. best guess 600mg>half a monster (probably key)>3hrs later heart palpitations and irregular heartbeat>no fucking hallucinationsI basically chilled and watched movies duration of my trip. after hr 3 concentrated on regulating breathing and heartbeat. hesitant to take high dose again. usually just take four or five 50mg if Im feeling shittyOP I'm like you unless I'm depressed I wont get excited bout anything unless it'll produce a hallucination. except benzos. ive always envied psychonauts especially Shulgan... that fucking man is a god among men and deserves to be forever immortalized on mt. rushmore
>sitting in room>"fuck I wanna get messed up!">I spies Walgreen sleeping pills, bout twenty left>dump unknown amount into gullet. best guess 600mg>half a monster (probably key)>3hrs later heart palpitations and irregular heartbeat>no fucking hallucinations
>>121223Severe depression can occur in some people for up to a month after taking it.
dosed 300mg dph about 45 mins ago, and im feeling its effects currently, along with the bowl i smoked.dosing 300mg dxm soon, but might be doing up to 600 today.im gonna try really hard to keep this thread updated
>>121264I haven't even tried any of them, I'm just a lurker, but dxm apparently potentiates itself if you redose later, hence pyramid dosing.So my vote is for dxm.
decided on the dxm at least so im at 300/600 and i smoked another bowl.the walls keep doing that goopy melting thing
im with you. even i when i dont consume dph or any other dissioative.cheers. keep me updated, darklord
>>121262fen, not fin :p>>121268Good choice
I thought about doing this combo tonight. I'll post in this thread when and if I do.
Girlfriends mom just tried to kill herself by overdosing on DPH after her 3rd DUI and facing possible prison time...she was already an unstable alcoholic coke head and emotional wreck, also a jesus freak, and definitely unaware of what overdoses of "sleeping pills" ACTUALLY do.>> This is a woman who decided that feeding the birds consisted of literally covering the railing of her deck in cheetos and leaving it there until rain washed them away.it's been a day and she's still like, trippin'I can only imagine how mentally fucking nutso she's gonna be after this oh my godit's probably going to be fucking hilarious...i can't wait to see how she rationalizes the things she saw.the DPH experience while thinking you're going to die/have died has got to be TERRIFYINGI can only imagine how much of a trainwreck that must have been.I'll update this thread if anyone is interested in post-suicidal antics. I know I am!!!
>> This is a woman who decided that feeding the birds consisted of literally covering the railing of her deck in cheetos and leaving it there until rain washed them away.
>>121163>>You're doing dph/dxm combos still. Yes I am, although that has nothing to do with this. >>You seem to have no memory at all. You're reaching now. We talk primarily on skype, which has a chat log thing and besides that I have an INCREDIBLE memory, especially considering all the horrid decisions I made that negatively affected it in the past!>>You never remember when i talk to you anymore. We've talked thrice in the last couple of weeks and you said that the first time too. We haven't even talked enough to have any more conversations for you to draw upon!!>>You used to be so much more coherent! I don't see how I'm incoherent now, but again, this isn't about me. Comment too long. Click here to view the full text.
>>You're doing dph/dxm combos still.
>>You seem to have no memory at all.
>>You never remember when i talk to you anymore.
>>You used to be so much more coherent!
>>121184Starbrother is just trying to tap that weasel cooch.
>>121184I would buy from your shop. You've probably discussed it elsewhere on this board, but what all do you plan to have for sale?>>121198Stop lmao>>121163If what starbrother is saying is true, I can attest to the fact that MAJOR improvements can be made, over time. With time alone, however, and with the introduction of additional harmful agents.. well, improvement is either slow or nonexistent, depending on the severity of the additional, compounded ill effects.In some cases, improvement is not only nonexistent, but any improvements made upon the condition of deliriant-induced HPPD/cognitive decline/psychological problems will actually REGRESS and become worse. At least, this is what I believe. How, then, can I attest to this? I've become worse, better, WAY worse and now quite better in the relatively short span of 3-4 years. My closest friend, who would also "indulge" in the anticholinergics, could also provide a case study (anecdotal evidence) to support this idea. Exercise; changes in diet; certain medications that may or may not work well, depending on the person; mental cueing/meditation etc; therapy, clinical psychological counseling etc. Any one of these things on their own would improve the severity of different symptoms, such as purely the physical, physiological, cognitive, perceptual or affective/emotional aspects of deliriant-induced symptoms. I could provide specific examples of each, if you wanted me to.
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