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Good dose to try after not taking any for a while? by Nicholas Blackcocke - Wed, 11 Oct 2017 20:18:53 EST ID:521xvWZd No.154706 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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It's been about half a year since I've done recreational dosing of DPH and I don't know a good place to start? Oh yeah, should probably note that I've been taking 100mg every night for sleep. Would 600-700mg be good for a delirious dose?
Samuel Dibberfun - Wed, 11 Oct 2017 20:25:16 EST ID:vrK9Dxoh No.154707 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You will have a hell of a tolerance if you've been taking 100mg every night

Don't take any for a few days and then dose 700mg to start.
Nicholas Blackcocke - Wed, 11 Oct 2017 20:27:47 EST ID:521xvWZd No.154708 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How exactly do tolerances work? I've never been able to comprehend it. Does the tolerance get higher and higher even if I'm taking the same dose every 24 hours? or would the tolerance stay the same
Oliver Cridgelan - Thu, 12 Oct 2017 00:10:43 EST ID:NV78aSUR No.154710 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If you take the same dose every day, tolerance will increase until you hit the equilibrium tolerance of that daily dose.

So here's an example:
On the first day you take 100mg and you feel it the most strongly.

On the second day you take 100mg and you still feel it but there is some tolerance effect from the first day and so it's not quite as strong. And because you don't feel it as strongly, that means it's effect on your tolerance is also less than in the first day.

On the third day you take another 100mg and you feel it even weaker because the second day's tolerance effect has compounded with the first. Again, the effect on tolerance is also weaker as a result.

On the fourth day, however, your tolerance has already risen high enough that the 100mg will only have a small effect. There is still a small boost in tolerance, but because it's so weak, by the time another day has passed that small boost in tolerance has already decreased and you're back to where you were at the end of the third day.

Now you're in equilibrium, meaning that you can take 100mg each day and each successive boost in tolerance from that 100mg will have disappeared by the time you're ready for the next 100mg, meaning you can continue to take the drug at that quantity for the rest of your life and still get some effect from it.

This is the same rationality that is used when prescribing daily long-term doses of opiates, benzos, amphetamines, etc. The beginning doses will be strongest and decrease in intensity but eventually level off somewhere less than where you'd be with zero tolerance but still above the sober line. It's much easier to picture if you draw a graph.

Obviously the main issue with recreational drug use is that most people are after the zero-tolerance effect but there's simply no way to continuously reproduce this without increasing dose, which in turn increases tolerance meaning you'll need to increase dose, etc etc.

And this varies from drug to drug. With something like weed, people are fine with having a sub-optimal effect if it means they can smoke daily because the equilibrium effect, while not as powerful as zero-tolerance, is good enough. With something like opiates, on the other hand, people have a much harder time sticking to that equilibrium.
Fiend !!1C9jE+w+ - Thu, 12 Oct 2017 13:10:39 EST ID:Htw7d8oq No.154716 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Quality post. Expanded on what I would have said, and then taught me something also. Neato. Like I had understood the idea of equilibrium tolerance sort of intuitively as a all-day-er-day stoner, but I've actually had the same problem as OP when it comes to taking 100-150mg DPH every night for like 5 fucking years, and then trying to figure out what fucking dose of DPH is actually gonna be a trip dose. And then having DXM tolerance doesn't help that issue --__--

OP, IME dosing 100mg/night, 700mg isn't really enough to trip fully. It depends on what your standard /del/ dose used to be. If you're the type of person who gets a full trip from 600mg, then you may not need to push 700, maybe 750, but if you were used to dosing 700mg before to get into it, you might need as much as 900mg to trip.
Fanny Fuckinglock - Thu, 12 Oct 2017 22:05:21 EST ID:521xvWZd No.154717 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Honestly, I don't think I've ever reached full delirium before. I've tripped, but never have I saw someone walk into my room and talk to me or see something so
realistic to the point I can't tell if it's real or not. I've saw 'people' before, but I knew they were fake. This was at like, 600-800mg doses too.

Could I just naturally have a high tolerance to the stuff? The only reason I've been taking it at night is because I was taken of my xanax script which is what I used for sleep before.

On the real though, I get how people could hate DPH, but I fucking love the body high and the spacey feeling in your head. It's honestly extremely euphoric for me. Add some music and porn and I feel fucking great.
Fiend !!1C9jE+w+ - Fri, 13 Oct 2017 03:39:05 EST ID:Htw7d8oq No.154720 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah. There seems to be a very narrow window where one can get hallucinations while maintaining just enough awareness to call them out, but push it just a bit farther and you will fall into the delusions. Go for 900mg. If you've been taking 100mg every night, and you have 800mg xp before you'll be fine.
Grid !!uuDBIlAZ - Sat, 14 Oct 2017 00:34:31 EST ID:TkBHMp+v No.154729 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This is a fantastic post.

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