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Pharmaceutical Delirants Other Than Antihistamines? by Hamilton Creffingten - Mon, 29 Jan 2018 02:49:51 EST ID:rjDLcOac No.155721 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I was wondering if anyone here knows about using pharmaceuticals as deliriants other than the antihistamines such as diphenhydramine? There are dosing issues with plants, such as datura, but I was wondering to potentially have a pure deliriant experience with only anticholinergic effects and not antihistamine effects.
Hamilton Sandletedge - Mon, 29 Jan 2018 04:58:03 EST ID:FbpIJnpR No.155722 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Represent - Mon, 29 Jan 2018 05:40:30 EST ID:JeULWeiI No.155723 Ignore Report Quick Reply
He said pharmaceuticals that have no antihistamine properties, doxylamine and dramammine are antihistamines.
OP, there are purely anticholinergic medicines that are usually used for Parkison's and stuff like that, such as trihexyphenidyl. Just go to wikipedia and search trihexyphenidyl, then go to the bottom of the page and there should be an expandable list of anticholinergics. Not all of them would work though. Scopolamine and atropine are natural anticholinergics that are used as medication (usually come in a vial) if you can get your hands on that.
CrazyKlueVorse !owU3wSU682 - Tue, 30 Jan 2018 03:56:24 EST ID:layL4b+H No.155729 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Scopolamine (hyoscine hydrobromide) is probably the easiest to find. I've heard good things about dicyclomine (dicycloverine) and trihexyphenidyl too.
Augustus Blatherbury - Tue, 30 Jan 2018 20:13:58 EST ID:kMW/7E1/ No.155734 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Do you know where I can find some scopolamine? I could only find the patches meant to be used over 72 hours on Inhouse Pharmacy, and some threads on some discussion forums stating that a major manufacturer had discontinued making the tablets. Do you know where I could find some scopolamine in tablet or liquid form such that I could easily orally administrate it, or would I have to buy some of the patches and extract the scopolamine? Thanks.
Priscilla Sellyman - Wed, 31 Jan 2018 01:59:53 EST ID:GmTzVQ0h No.155738 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You're not going to find a deliriant without antihistamine properties, because in order to have the delrious effects they have to affect acetycholine which in turn effects histamine.

Your best bet would be something like ambien, which seems to have the least amount of antihistamine effects. However it is more comparable to benzos, with the potential for delirum and loses a decent amount of effects your standard DPH trip would have. It is also not easy to get your hands on.

There are lots of alternatives to DPH but all will have antihistamine effects as well. The reason DPH is the preferred deliriant is because it has the most relatively agreeable effect to side effect ratio. Stuff like scopolamine and atropine are much heavier antihistamines and are overall much more unpleasant to trip on
Cyril Piffingkadge - Wed, 31 Jan 2018 05:20:07 EST ID:qRZVQhxg No.155740 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah, nah.
Scopolamine does nothing to stop itching or allergic reactions, the same is true of most tropane alkaloids.
CrazyFolksTribe !owU3wSU682 - Thu, 01 Feb 2018 02:51:13 EST ID:Hjw4G3Pw No.155746 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Google Travacalm HO and Kwells. If worse comes to worst and you can't find a decent online pharmacy, you can usually find one or both brands on ebay.com.au, ebay.co.uk, or ebay.ie.

>some threads on some discussion forums stating that a major manufacturer had discontinued making the tablets
Some eBay vendors have really jacked up their prices over the last 6 months, so it wouldn't surprise me.
Graham Dussledock - Fri, 02 Feb 2018 01:41:34 EST ID:rjDLcOac No.155753 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The thread I was talking about was posted a long time before 6 months ago. In any case, I was able to easy find what I needed with your post, thank you a lot.
Graham Dussledock - Fri, 02 Feb 2018 04:00:23 EST ID:rjDLcOac No.155754 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also, do you know what the dosage equivalence in terms of mass there is for anticholinergic effects between diphenhydramine and scopolamine?
Fiend !!1C9jE+w+ - Sat, 03 Feb 2018 13:08:05 EST ID:Htw7d8oq No.155756 Ignore Report Quick Reply
50-100x mor potent by weight. See http://boards.420chan.org/deli/res/155726.php
Fiend !!1C9jE+w+ - Mon, 12 Feb 2018 15:31:15 EST ID:7T+f5R2D No.155824 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Anyone try deliriant doses of Clemastine, Meclizine or Cyclizine? Seem like they might have promise. I know from personal experience that Clemastine is great in low doses but I never pished it very high.
Mirai Chan - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 07:11:04 EST ID:yzJh2Fbh No.155837 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Z-drugs are the first thing that come to mind for me. Ambien has given me some pretty strange deliriant experiences. Especially in combination with DPH.
Fiend !!1C9jE+w+ - Thu, 22 Feb 2018 14:30:33 EST ID:7T+f5R2D No.155895 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Bump for Cyclizine and Meclizine.
Beatrice Commerpedge - Sun, 25 Feb 2018 21:15:59 EST ID:6PR0dxum No.155906 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How do I get prescribed Ambien?
CrazyFolksTribe !owU3wSU682 - Mon, 26 Feb 2018 01:15:46 EST ID:1Rx3PZlE No.155910 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Cyclizine has always interested me too... it's so symmetrical.

I've had two meclizine experiences, but failed to get any definite /deli/ effects. The first time was unmemorable, and the second time I took 800mg (started around 400mg and redosed my way up over 1-2 hours) and stayed up for quite a while hoping something would happen. After a few hours, I felt a little tired and had a weird taste in my mouth, probably from the flavoring on the chewable tablets, but that's about all.

Fortunately, the aftertaste of meclizine is nothing compared to the bitter, chloriney flavor of DPH tablets, so dosing was easy-peasy.
Fiend !!1C9jE+w+ - Mon, 26 Feb 2018 18:31:29 EST ID:7T+f5R2D No.155915 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Eh. If 800mg didn't do much then I'm not inclined to pursue it further. Cyclizine on the other hand may yet have potential. I've been told that some CVS may carry it but I have yet to see it on a shelf. I'll keep looking.
Hedda Hagglemark - Mon, 26 Feb 2018 22:01:21 EST ID:2VOY90H7 No.155917 Ignore Report Quick Reply
tell your doctor you have insomnia and then come back and tell them that whatever z-drug they prescribed you didnt work or had adverse side effects. keep doing this until they give you ambien lol

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