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Funny del discussion question by Corpus Crispy - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 06:48:57 EST ID:HnxzRvCM No.155789 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Which do you think is worse for your body to do every day?
Dph or Alcohol
Dph or Cigarettes
Dph or fast food
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Sidney Murdlock - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 09:22:44 EST ID:4ntsQMXO No.155791 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Depends entirely on dosing. 700 mg a day for all of those is probably worse than eating fast food for every meal, drinking less than 9 drinks every day, or smoking less than 2 packs a day
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Edward Blingersudge - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 13:55:28 EST ID:jAXqM2qv No.155792 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I feel like DPH is very aggressive to health, moreso than anything else you've listed. This is just conjecture, but the sensations I get in my head after a high dose just feel destructive; it's almost like I can feel my neurons shriveling up and dying.

I also eat a shit ton of fast food and drink like a fish so I probably won't live long. Oh well.
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Caroline Sucklemidge - Thu, 08 Feb 2018 17:41:24 EST ID:LwjPtQHp No.155793 Ignore Report Quick Reply
honestly? every day? del would kill you the fastest
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Matilda Siddleville - Fri, 09 Feb 2018 03:30:37 EST ID:RgqvbuWz No.155796 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>155789
>not using all of the above every day

In all seriousness though, I think DPH would be less harmful at therapeutic doses than the other three but at fap doses or higher it'll probably be worse or at least cause noticeable damage the fastest
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Phoebe Nicklebanks - Fri, 09 Feb 2018 11:36:06 EST ID:dpIcocgG No.155800 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>155789

I take massive amounts every day and have done so for years. Massive tolerance has made me more or less immune, to be honest. I have gotten consistently clean bills of health from my check-ups. I'm not arrogant or ignorant enough to think this free ride will last forever. I smoke heavily and have done so for much longer than I have daily taken DPH and I have a bit of a cough... I never drink... I used to binge on meth for 12 days at a time and I found that to be much more crippling in terms of daily functioning though I haven't touched the stuff in years. I'm prescribed 35 mgs of methadone a day which I've been steadily coming off of 5-mg-per-month from the 130 I once was prescribed to get off hydromorphone/heroin. NB 'cause I really haven't answered your question but I got the urge to be semi-relevant and here we are
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David Greenhood - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 15:19:28 EST ID:LwjPtQHp No.155808 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>155800

your "clean bill of health from a checkup" probably did not investigate the health of your brain/neurons
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Phyllis Tootfield - Sun, 11 Feb 2018 07:59:03 EST ID:dpIcocgG No.155812 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>155808

Yes, that's quite true and that's what brought me to the conclusion of "no free ride forever." The few issues I do have such as poor word recall, stuttering, slight spasms always go away after I stop for a day or two. My intelligence and vocabulary go back to being perfectly normal as well as all other functions.
I do know that if I keep it up, it's going to become worse and take longer to bounce back though and eventually I may not bounce back at all. I've gotten to this point after 15 years or so of drug use, 10 of which has been pretty extreme abuse and addiction to opiates, meth, weed (if that counts) and deliriants consistently. It's been only the DPH for the last two years and even with 2000 mgs per what averages out to be every second or third day, I feel the most stable and healthy I have for quite some time. But yeah, that most likely will eventually change for the worse but now that I'm at the point where I can quite literally down 1500 mgs and go about my day, it's just not even fucking worth it but yet it seems to fill a void which is incredibly frustrating
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Cyril Gammleford - Sun, 11 Feb 2018 11:14:14 EST ID:Ar4UhUOf No.155813 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why exactly is dph seen to be so bad for your brain by this board? Logically, if muscarinic agonists cause absurd excitotoxic brain damage, wouldn't an antagonist like dph do the opposite? The fried brain feeling and amnesia comes from that antagonisation.

Which leads me to my main point, if you introduced a steady a dose of a muscarinic antagonist, wouldn't the brain respond to that by upregulating muscarinic receptors, thus improving cognition and memory? Or would that very upregulation cause excitotoxicity due to muscurinic over-stimulation?
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Martin Mocklebury - Sun, 11 Feb 2018 12:05:58 EST ID:yWS8jKIR No.155815 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The subjective effect of a drug doesn't really indicate its health. Huffing paint produces euphoria and yet will absolutely kill brain cells, for instance. Just because DPH produces intense dysphoria doesn't necessarily mean it's causing damage.
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George Piddletet - Sun, 11 Feb 2018 19:18:35 EST ID:lDn+Mlsl No.155817 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>155789
I think low dose dph to fall asleep every night causes early onset dementia
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Taylor - Mon, 12 Feb 2018 18:20:10 EST ID:kTPKj5rN No.155826 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>155817
Yep, studies from Harvard show that frequent dosing of the recommended doses increased your risk by about 33%
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Eugene Pickworth - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 02:51:14 EST ID:jHOEyF07 No.155834 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>155815

but no one said that. we are saying dph causes brain damage because it does, not because of how it feels.
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William Grandwell - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 22:54:48 EST ID:yWS8jKIR No.155856 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>155834
>we are saying dph causes brain damage because it does

But what is your evidence?
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Cedric Broblingbury - Sat, 17 Feb 2018 00:43:05 EST ID:yO0gV0Wm No.155859 Ignore Report Quick Reply
For your body?
With my current knowledge?
>Alcohol
>Cigarettes
>Fast food

Barring liver toxicity, cardiotoxicity, or fatal neurodegeneration I think DPH wins, I am reluctant to admit.
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Wesley Chorryputch - Sat, 17 Feb 2018 14:58:25 EST ID:jHOEyF07 No.155860 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>155856

here let me prove some facts to you because it's my responsibility to educate you

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamainternalmedicine/fullarticle/2091745
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gnastygnorc - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 20:07:52 EST ID:HnxzRvCM No.155870 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>155860
I've been abusing dph almost daily for years in varying doses generally ranging from 300-700mg and I can definitely recognize signs of dementia, the most prevalent being the feeling of deja-vu like if i watch a movie ive never seen or eat at a restaurant ive never been too its like I remember it and feel like I know ive done this already. I have no doubt in my mind that dph causes pretty significant brain damage overtime. However, as far as non-brain related physical health problems, I have in the past been a heavy drinker/smoker and benzo user all of which I have ceased as the side effects were physically debilitating and I feel it took a much heavier toll on my health than dph has. I drink alot of water and exercise almost every day and while Im aware its quite possible im just subconsciously trying to justify my drug habit to myself, I feel exponentially healthier just doing dph than I felt drinking/smoking/doing other drugs.
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Nell Grimlock - Sun, 18 Feb 2018 22:50:05 EST ID:jHOEyF07 No.155872 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>155870

hey man, we all gotta get high somehow. you do you.
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Lillian Becklechack - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 11:09:15 EST ID:yWS8jKIR No.155873 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>155870
You take high doses nearly every day? So you're saying you experience dementia while under the influence of DPH? Well, duh. But if you stopped for an extended period of time, I'd be very interested to see if you would fully recover or always have mental problems.
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Lillian Becklechack - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 11:30:51 EST ID:yWS8jKIR No.155874 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>155860
Yes, so there have been studies on the effects of long-term therapeutic doses on the elderly, but not on the effects of intermittent recreation doses, or chronic recreational doses followed by abstinence, which is the pattern of use I imagine many of us have.
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Frederick Brosslebin - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 22:16:58 EST ID:DZhUY/rI No.155875 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>155873
SMH you niggas talking about motherfucking PERMANENT brain damage like like its some monster of the day cartoon type shit. Hey 'guise it'd be interesting if this guy here permanently fucked himself for life. BUT HEY LETS GET HIGH ON SLEEP PILLZ BRUHH

>always have mental problems

>we all gotta get high somehow.

This board is bottom tier only to the idiots who huff inhalants and fuck with jenk.
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Frederick Brosslebin - Mon, 19 Feb 2018 22:18:18 EST ID:DZhUY/rI No.155876 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>155875
isn't*
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Dextrolord - Tue, 20 Feb 2018 02:03:52 EST ID:tw70UaGH No.155878 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>155875
Whatever ass just cuz uve never felt the call of the spider or longed to gaze upon hatman doesn't mean u have to be a dick.
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Edwin Brublinghood - Tue, 20 Feb 2018 07:30:30 EST ID:yWS8jKIR No.155881 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>155875
It seems likely that high doses of DPH cause brain damage, but the reality is that there just haven't been any studies on it, so it's not certain. If it does cause damage, it seems like somewhat subtle damage. I've taken high and moderate doses dozens of times, maybe close to a hundred times if I include lowish doses like 200mg. I haven't had any DPH at all for about six months now, and I feel sharp, as sharp as ever really, although of course there are lots of variables at play, including just getting older (I'm 24 now).
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ss - Tue, 20 Feb 2018 11:54:40 EST ID:+nLihAKt No.155882 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>155789
guess cigarettes


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