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sober misery (posted on /qq/ aswell) by Samuel Grandwell - Tue, 18 Sep 2018 12:01:54 EST ID:Wi4D7hdy No.30144 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I posted this on /qq/ but I thought it might get a quicker response, and more relevant since everyone here's cold turkey:

I quit daily benzos and opiates about a year ago, have had the odd lapse but nothing beyond a day or two's use in that time. Since then, I feel worse and worse. I hate waking up in the morning, at my job I just want to smash everything up and scream, every day I'm counting the minutes til I can leave but then I feel the same way at home, I feel like I'm only resisting suicide for a bunch of selfish self-absorbed cunts who don't want to help me they just don't want to feel guilty if I did kill myself, there's nothing for me in the world I work a shit job I don't have any skills to get a different one, I don't have a girlfriend and I haven't had one or even had sex in three years, I had one perfect girlfriend and I fucked it up and pretty much every day I feel like screaming I just want to go back to the day we fell out and fix everything it's like my head's full of screaming every day I want to just run into the street and beat someone and just not stop until they're fucking dead I want disasters and plagues and terror attacks I want everyone to feel just as miserable and worthless as I do and I don't see how I can go on like this it's exhausting I just want to get back on the drugs or fucking die, all my friends have girlfriends and are getting places and it's pathetic and a miserable way of thinking but I fucking resent them for their happiness, I think their girlfriends are stuck up cunts who won't introduce me to their friends because they don't think I'm good enough for them and I can't even go to the pub because seeing them all happy makes me go home and cry all night and think about killing myself because I'm so fucking lonely and miserable, it's a disgusting attitude but I really want them to break up I can't feel happy for my friends any more and that's not right - I'm dreading christmas, I don't want to go and sit around with my family and hear about what's going right for them, I don't want to sit there conscious that the fat self-important smug prick I call a …
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Doris Sevingmirk - Fri, 21 Sep 2018 15:18:13 EST ID:uZJkwyR4 No.30148 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You have depression, it's knowed now whats your problem.
give out of your city, start a new life, make new friends and find another girl. Give out of the country if u want, you're alone right? so you can. These guys who have a girlfriend and will start a family marriage are fucked and trapped in it, different of you. Start a new life and make another something else like you did with drugs, with money, be addict for it, try to be rich about it. Have so things to live for; Status, power, money, and u want to die because of PEOPLES? if u are alone you can make different, you ever'ill can change, make these choice. What you write remember me a depressiv disturbing movie, like guinea pig, WTF life are you creating. Try to win anything nice in these fucking shit what you built right now.

BWS 3 by James Siffingwill - Sun, 03 Jun 2018 13:28:12 EST ID:cXy+on2h No.29922 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Last one stopped bumping.

It's been 2 weeks since I started my suboxone taper. I'm doing good. Just taking everything day by day.

I've been in therapy for 1 month already. I've made quite a bit of progress in such little time. I feel better about myself and am becoming emotionally and mentally stable for once in my life. I'm starting to realize my potential as a person who can achieve anything as long as I can see it. Seeing is achieving. The mind is what you create.
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Cornelius Clinkinlock - Sun, 02 Sep 2018 12:07:28 EST ID:bTvU4UAH No.30124 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You have graduated na and aa now. You don't have to look back.
Betsy Pickstock - Tue, 11 Sep 2018 19:20:43 EST ID:CQoW32t3 No.30134 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Fucked up 3 days ago. Took 1mg of alprazolam during a hard trip on LSD. I'm currently being drug tested for probation and am being tested for cocaine, benzos, weed, amphetamines, and opiates. I also used a bit of cocaine a while back.

Tested myself 2 days ago and came out dirty using home drug tests. I'm getting tested in 2 days. I sure hope this diet and flushing works.

I am going to not be using drugs at all after hopefully passing this upcoming test. It's not worth the risk. I also am going to stop drinking. I'll just stick to psychedelics and stuff like cbd or something.
Hannah Chaggletut - Tue, 11 Sep 2018 19:37:16 EST ID:YwZpcCaL No.30135 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Don't feel bad. I relapsed and abused the subs I had. I just saw my new therapist for the first time yesterday. Hopefully she can help me and eventually I'll truly be ready to get clean and sober. But, right now I cant do it. I admit it. Theirs just too much bullshit going on in my life and I'm stressed the fuck out. I've been smoking weed a lot which has helped with my anxiety that came back to haunt me after have not even one anxiety attack for 4 years until now. But, depression and having to deal with auditory hallucinations since I'm schizophrenic makes it 20x as hard for me. I feel so crippled mentally and emotionally right now.
Steezington Mealsfirst - Wed, 19 Sep 2018 20:31:33 EST ID:/aQ3iLOf No.30146 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Comment>>29922 2 weeks cleant easy game hang tight squad
Cornelius Fobberbudge - Fri, 21 Sep 2018 08:53:51 EST ID:YwZpcCaL No.30147 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hoping on suboxone today.

Benzo wihdrawl by Thomas Durryfuck - Thu, 30 Aug 2018 18:40:22 EST ID:pwqqRz9j No.30116 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I posted this on /benz/ but figured you guys could help too

o i've been taking relatively large (unmeasured powder but i do have a mg scale and have weighed it a few times so i can eyeball decently, doesn't excuse my laziness for not measuring it out every time or making a solution). I'd say between 4-8mg daily for about a month now.

I know I am 100% physically dependent now and currently using alp powder as the etiz was unavailable.

However, when I wake up I honestly don't notice any withdrawl symptoms. Even at 5pm today i didn't necessarily feel any benzo withdrawl (i also take vyvanse and the crash from that never feels pleasant) but I did the toothpick method with the alp cause im terrified of having a seizure.

Would i feel a seizure come on or could it just happen out of the blue, like would my w/ds get progressively worse or could a seizure happen even if i felt fine physically?

Also best way to taper etiz?
Albert Duvingbick - Wed, 19 Sep 2018 19:39:05 EST ID:P+lChTbV No.30145 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Those aren't big doses or lengthy duration. Everyone is different, but I wouldn't think a seizure likely and a taper from that would be easy for me maybe even cold turkey. To be on the safe side do a 1 or 2 week taper if you can substitute the etiz or alp for something longer acting like the golden standard diazepam/diclazepam or clonazePAM. Be aware of the build up of metabolites due to the longer acting effects. The Ashton Manual can guide you https://www.benzo.org.uk/manual/index.htm and there are support forums for benzodiazepines. Don't worry too much, smoke if you feel it is appropriate and stay away from alcohol.

BWD by Barnaby Worthingfuck - Wed, 04 Jul 2018 19:29:00 EST ID:1NUYf9VK No.30012 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Bump While Detox

On Green Tea + MangoPeach Juice rn, whoa brauh the room is stable and there's the faint smell of feces or burning acrylic as the nastiness is cleansed from my body.
Going to go meditate and head out to enjoy the festivities with a clean head. Probably should shower too.

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BwD - Thu, 12 Jul 2018 22:58:53 EST ID:sOYAtUOs No.30032 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Trying to quit smoking and poly substance abuse. Had one cigarette today and one yesterday. Trying to vape instead. No weed today, no alcohol, no nothing except that, psych meds, and fewd.
Fanny Fenkinlock - Sat, 21 Jul 2018 03:27:01 EST ID:tmdaHvJY No.30055 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I stupidly went and binged heroin IV for a week after being clean from a lengthy habit for over a year... This detox is nowhere near as bad but the restless legs is killer. Last time I didn't sleep at all for 4 days with full blown WD because of it. Easily the worst part of WD after the constipation hell clears up.

I'd say the reason it's so bad is that you're exhausted to the point where normally you would instantly fall asleep but you're prohibited from doing so. It is true torture.

What are other opinions on the worst of opiate WD?
Wesley Clebbermun - Sat, 04 Aug 2018 02:19:34 EST ID:FRAuO5w7 No.30073 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Day 178 of sobriety from anything harder than coffee. Day 0 was a meth comedown after 11 years of living constantly high on weed, hooch and dis's. Just the last 4 years had the inclusion of ice. The best thing of being out is not having hangovers anymore. Oh, and having energy to work-out and going outdoors again. Great life so far.
Nell Chocklelock - Sat, 04 Aug 2018 18:24:39 EST ID:hz0sYZtr No.30076 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Firstly, are you me? I was sober for 2 years, relapsed 3 weeks ago, used off and on. 14 days ago I got a vivitrol shot. You may have seen my threads around. I tried incredibly hard to get high. I used every single day for the last 8-9 days... while on vivitrol. I did get some negligible effects from the drugs, but it was mostly a waste. Vivitrol blocks the important mu receptor completely (euphoria and analgesia) but does a poor job of blocking some of the less important receptors. So I’m withdrawing from the other receptors. I doubt there are many people who have gone through this incredibly strange withdrawal. I have a large amount of Xanax, gabapentin, bupropion, but no clonidine. I’m at 32 hours since last using. I’ll say that this WD isn’t very bad. Minor aches, no leg kicks, but a very cloudy head and lots of yawning. Doubt I’ll sleep well tonight unless I drug myself unconscious. I have to go back to my desk job on Monday.

To answer your question regarding worst withdrawal, mine was from oxycodone. I was using 400-800mg/day for about a month. I didn’t understand opiates or withdrawal at the time. I used at that level for 3 straight months, never experiencing discomfort or withdrawal. When I decided I should stop, I went through the worst hell imaginable. I was freezing while dripping sweat. I was laying in bed acting as though I was peddling a bicycle as fast as I could while wildly flaming my arms and convulsing. I was cycling between suicidal thoughts, self pity, anger, fear, and frustration rapidly. I would dry heave and run to the bathroom and continue my flailing and moaning while trying to sit still in the toilet. Every hour or so I would run to the shower and shower in incredibly hot water. I ended up calling my dealer the next day to get more pills, and soon after, went to detox where they helped me tremendously coming off of that habit. So that is the story of my worst. I’ve kicked heroin a couple times, but pretty minor habits.

Lastly, I’m a bit surprised that a 1 week binge has left you in such a bad place. Sorry you’re going through that, man. I really hope it’s short lived and passes quickly. Hang in there bud.
Polly Drimblefield - Mon, 17 Sep 2018 00:53:21 EST ID:rO9shbz6 No.30143 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Been taking 3mg clonaz/day for over a year now. I've not followed any specific taper guidelines - I mostly just stopped taking them and will only take one when the side-effects become unbearable. But these headaches, man. Holy fuck I want to slam my head against a wall. This is the absolute worst. I took 1mg about an hour ago and the headache is still going strong. Fucking hell

Has anyone quit guys and gal's by Observerperver - Wed, 12 Sep 2018 11:32:19 EST ID:QWeDtNLX No.30136 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I haven't seen anyone in this forum say they have actually given up the drugs. All seem to be switching from one thing to another to cut back or give up something else, or to pass a drug test for employment. Maybe if one went straight there would be no need to come back here and say so. No one will congratulate you. The few 12 steppers are ridiculed for being brainwashed and/or in a cult although it may be said they stop if you believe them.
If I may give an opinion I'd say it's the dopers who are in a cult and you'll drink the 'cool aid'. The cult is the media. That song by the Kaiser Chiefs Never Miss a Beat says it all. Drugs do change your mood (emotions etc) and it is short term and wears off. But why not change yourselves. Long term and lasting. Anyone out there who has succeeded? How did you actually give up. I hear from psychologist friends that the success rate of stopping substance abuse is 2.5%. The 12 steppers say the long term is Jails institutions and death whereas in my experience most I have known simply become alcoholics and complain about how badly off and mistreated they are.
Jenny Draddlesudge - Wed, 12 Sep 2018 15:39:04 EST ID:rByY0b28 No.30137 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If you think that 12 steps isn't a temporary solution then I don't even know what to tell you, they are being ridiculed, sure - but not without a reason. Just look at the tactics they apply, all repeating the same shit, there are neither opinions nor facts there, just formulas everybody has to learn, like what you mentioned about going to jail or dying when you relapse, some of them can't even explain why it has to end like this. AA/NA totally miss the point in that whole recovery and addiction thing. Sure guys, keep bullshiting yourselves that it's some magic disease that some people have, some don't. They fail to realize that you should search for root of the problem and that dealing with it can be more benficial than just stopping to use drugs. They fail to see the connection between mental illnesses and addiction. Let's say someone has serious depression and anxiety problems, self-medicates with drugs. That person is now sober for some time. Still depressed, anxious, basically unable to live their life normally. So the benefits of quitting are more money and less physical health issues I guess? So they can live longer with their problems?

Sorry for the rant just felt like I have to post it somewhere. Only people I met who stopped doing all drugs for at least few months were the ones who were doing therapy, cut all contacts with users and dealers, moved to other towns and found a way to organize they free time so that they enjoy what they do instead of just filling it with anything just to have few more hours sober.
tl;dr - therapy, find a cause why you started using, treat meetings as additional support
Observerperver - Wed, 12 Sep 2018 16:05:18 EST ID:ZASTjFXm No.30138 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>30137 Okay, but what I'm asking is has anyone on this forum actually given up 'drugs' for good or is the detox bit here a short term thing for getting off so called hard drugs or just passing a piss test to get a job. I don't doubt most 12 steppers leave the groups in time some quickly some with a few months or years and some remain, although probably few. I here Narcotics Anonymous has more meetings in Iran than the USA now. Any Iranians out there care to comment in English.
If anyone is in therapy how about some insights. Long termers, have you been on the psychiatric drugs long term.
David Blannerwater - Thu, 13 Sep 2018 21:46:30 EST ID:YwZpcCaL No.30139 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What specific drug is running rampant in Iran? I'm curious now. Enlighten me.
Observerperver - Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:26:10 EST ID:ZASTjFXm No.30140 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>30139 I believe it is smack from my recollections. I'll try and obtain more information if you wish although this may take a while due to my being extremely busy. But I can find out from Psych friends. Patience grasshopper..
Keith b - Sat, 15 Sep 2018 00:09:28 EST ID:ZASTjFXm No.30142 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>30139 From the Fix is this.. https://www.thefix.com/content/Iran-Narcotics-Anonymous-phonemoneon-Lavitt2099
As said in the comments section Any form of recovery is valid if it works.

THC(?) induced psychosis recovery by Nigel Snoddale - Mon, 11 Jun 2018 12:31:35 EST ID:GTv49qUp No.29947 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Four months ago, I was under some stress and was smoking marijuana weekly, despite it giving me panic attacks. I was foolish and uninformed, and I thought that the each joint would lessen the effects of the previous ones.

Then I smoked two joints in succession in a public place. This was followed by crippling panic attacks for two weeks straight, followed by two months of anxiety.

Now, I'd never been the anxious type. Completely calm, stable, pragmatic, emotionless even. I can/could deal with stress. No history of anything similar in either me or my family. The weed single-handedly triggered all this. Some dormant brain reaction, lurking, waiting for me to be fucking stupid enough to allow it to surface again and again, until it finally takes over completely.

I'd never dealt with anything even remotely similar, so it fucked me up. I felt like a toddler getting blindsided with a tire iron. In the first two weeks, during the panic, I completely lost touch with my old self, while in the following months I was trying to scramble my personality back together. Disorganized, strange thoughts, depersonalization, etc. It still feels like my IQ's dropped by 10 points.

I found this study about people recovering from what I'd experienced - substance-induced psychosis with no prior diagnosis of a psychotic illness. The outcomes weren't... hopeful:

>For this study, the investigators reviewed the long-term outcomes of all persons who received a diagnosis of substance-induced psychosis between 1994 and 2014 and had no prior diagnosis of a psychotic illness — a group of over 6,700 people. The diagnosis of drug-induced psychosis required symptoms lasting at least 48 hours — linked to intoxication with or withdrawal from the drug.

>Over a twenty-year follow-up period, about 41 percent of those who had a psychotic reaction to marijuana developed schizophrenia, and 47 percent developed either schizophrenia or bipolar disorder. About half of those who developed schizophrenia did so within 3.1 years, and half of those who developed bipolar disorder did so within 4.4 years.

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Barnaby Hugglestock - Tue, 17 Jul 2018 18:33:59 EST ID:J1eaXtK+ No.30047 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Same thing happened to me. Treat the anxiety and stay away from weed. Try some benzos or alcohol (obviously not together) to deal with the physical effects from the anxiety, try meditation or exercise, and/or see a professional about your anxiety.
Hannah Brirringnag - Fri, 10 Aug 2018 20:13:56 EST ID:fna5DMYG No.30090 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I have BPD and I was mentally stable until the age of around 16 or 17. Started smoking weed at 11 and heavy dxm use through highschool plus all the other drugs I put into my body, years laterI'm doing much better, but I have to manage my mental health strenuously, bedtime eating healthy meditation prayer the whole works. Weed makes me paranoid and anxous now, also get bad anxiety for small things and sometime for no reason at all.... i always thought it was the dxm but looks like weed played a part too
Nigel Dammleway - Sat, 25 Aug 2018 02:32:59 EST ID:gkhguEbs No.30107 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Weed-wise., maybe find a weed that works with your, or for you.
I used to get higher grade commercial Mexican weed for a few years, always the compressed brick. Reminded me of the taste smell when you open drink a Dr Pepper, cola, root beer. It was always exactly the same. Could keep an easy
steady tolerance. A couple hits, and be high for a half hour, hour, then take another couple of hits as long as I wanted to keep an even high.

Talking to people was fun. As well just doing my bicycle, activities routines kept my mind seeking forward Had every move planned out, as well adjust as wanted with other plans. Don't know. Could recreate the two joint high, but with one joint to try to reassign your thinking process. Make it any way you want. Keep projects going, exercise but make your own routines that are unique to your thinkiong processes and what may drive you further into this. May sound strange but.Have pot make things work forward for you, be high in the meantimes between doing whatever. Music, etc.
Cyril Wacklesture - Sat, 25 Aug 2018 10:20:16 EST ID:cXy+on2h No.30108 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This happened to me one time a LONG time ago when I became Bi polar Nd wasn't on medication yet. I smoked 2 bowls that night, an hour went by. I couldn't stop the fucked up memories of growing up and the thoughts of killing the person who abused me for years, physical and verbal from entering my mind. I walked down the stairs of my house, walked by a lamp and table. Suddenly I snapped and fucking tore the whole living room up in a violent rage. I forget what happened after that. But, it's been about 10 years since and weed doesn't do that to me anymore since I've been medicated for my anger for a few years.

Whoever says weed cant cause psychosis or bring up any deep seeded mental Illness from within yourself and your mind, are ignorant fucks.
Molly Danderfield - Fri, 14 Sep 2018 22:41:39 EST ID:iHiOPleG No.30141 Ignore Report Quick Reply
did it weed give you psychosis since you have bpd? I always wondered about bpd and if you could be prone to it.

Passing Urine THC test by Jenny Podgewack - Mon, 10 Sep 2018 17:18:18 EST ID:qwqcNxuM No.30131 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I made a stupid mistake of taking an oil dab last night after 4 months of sobriety. Luckily the company offering me a job doesn't screen. The thing that's really getting to me is that I'm supposed to be hearing back from another company by at most Friday. They do screenings and I'm worried it'll be a higher paying position, assuming I won the interview canidacy. I don't know when they would test, but I want this out if my system asap. I might buy a cleansing and testing kit, but I don't know how I feel about the former. Has anyone passed a test at least one week to two after taking a dab/having a bowl? This is killing me, and it's all my fault
Edwin Pockleshit - Mon, 10 Sep 2018 22:26:55 EST ID:E5tMjZ9O No.30133 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Basically the only thing that is legit is dilution. You need to drink a bunch of water before the test. You don't have to drink a ton until a few hours before the test though because that won't make you excrete the THC metabolites any faster, the water just makes it so they're less concentrated and will fall below the test's threshold. Take some B vitamins to color your pee and some creatine so they detect some creatinine in your urine.

Emptiness by Martha Dartbury - Sat, 08 Sep 2018 23:19:26 EST ID:xQUWjbqB No.30128 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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The BIG problem with quitting substances is you're suddenly aware of the time, and everything just feels so hollow and empty. Without booze or opiates, or at least benzos, nothing even feels real. Video games aren't fun, watching TV makes you feel like shit.

You start to realize that old habits you had like eating out were really just excuses for you to get shit-faced with your friends, which covered up some of the guilt of that hangover.

But when I'm totally clean, I just have NOTHING to fill my time. People tell me to get a hobby, but honestly the last thing I want to do when I come home from work is do more work. And that's all hobbies feel like to me.

And now everything just feels like I'm staring at 40-50 years of blank space ahead of me - not even like I have to fight something like I would if I was fucked up, but just a big blank space where I don't know what to do. Days blur into one and I feel lost without getting shitfaced, even though I know now that its just a distraction. Wat do?

tl;dr - How did you guys get past the emptiness, loneliness and boredom of sober life?
Shit Peggleworth - Sun, 09 Sep 2018 21:48:36 EST ID:GjQtgtw2 No.30130 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The problem is no one knows the answer, none of us would be here if we did. Rehabs and 12-Step Programs wouldnt exist if we did, and im not endorsing those as definite solutions either. Personally i think that drugs, however harmful or beneficial bring awareness to alot of people about the existential conflict of being human. Afterwards it tends to leave an impact, how we can just alter our perceptions of everything, namely ourselves, through chemistry and biology, a line of amphetamine or a beer or 5 hits of acid, or a vape pen hit etc. So what is it outside of ourselves that gives us purpose, everyone who finds an answer for that question that's at least moderately good or healthy seems to turnout alright though in my observations.
Eliza Bagglelud - Mon, 10 Sep 2018 18:21:24 EST ID:rByY0b28 No.30132 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sounds like you have lack of dopamine and serotonin, l-dopa and 5htp might help as well as eating well and getting enough sleep
There's no magic cure, for some people it can take years to go back to enjoying life sober

cigarettes by Nicholas Pittfuck - Thu, 21 Jun 2018 18:54:25 EST ID:G1aVshVp No.29965 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How do you guys deal with the post smoking lack of attention, anxiety, depression, and boredom post smoking? After 5 months without smoking I realized I still felt like shit. Didn't feel as physically poisoned and sickly as being a chainsmoker, but still. Is this normal? It feels like a low grade version of how I've heard kicking heroin described. It's bad enough I'm almost considering going back just to feel more with it and productive again.
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Gerald Lumberballs - Sun, 26 Aug 2018 20:10:52 EST ID:hZlRJPtw No.30112 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've been an on and off sm=oker for about 6 years. My trick to finally quit is cutting way back on alcohol (basically never drinking enough to get drunk) and running. The running really keeps me in check. I am way more conscious of my lungs now and I don't want to fuck that up. Just keep yourself busy with something else. I do compensate with snuff but that's fine with me
Hedda Bepperhood - Tue, 28 Aug 2018 02:07:41 EST ID:IOuVDUzI No.30113 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>The running really keeps me in check. I am way more conscious of my lungs
>now and I don't want to fuck that up.

I usually rode my nike first thing i woke up, after all the morning routines another mile. Or rode 15 miles. One cig, I likened to setting me back to almost square one. Or at least set back a week.
Smoking weed was my get away from smoking cigs card. Clean Mexican weed. Always consistent. Never made my lings feel heavy or whatever. Now smoking a cig, it's all over for the day, or at least hours. It (tobacco) really does fuck with your thinking processes.

I got help to quit by watching co-workers, associates before/after they would light up a cig.
Their personalities would change dramatically. One woman I knew was smoking, talking on the phone and the smoke was going right into her toddlers face. i asked her to smoke outside
or move s few feet over. She got all raggged and "my hous" my right to smoke, bla bla bla. i tried to explain, but he didn't smoke himself.

She moved outside for a moment or two, and came back in to be angry and sit right back to where the smoke went right into her child's face. Ok, moreso, you could see when he inhaled, the smoke going into his nose and mouth when he breathed, the light was shining just right to see that. ohh, perfect scenario for anti-smoking campaign. I mean like the
people who breath through a hole in their throat. One woman semi-relation to an associate would smoke through her
hole. My dads girlfrind ended up coughing, splattering blood everywhere. Was on oxygen 24/7. The list goes on.
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John Clepperspear - Fri, 31 Aug 2018 12:22:30 EST ID:p8wgo5ss No.30121 Ignore Report Quick Reply
He's not talking about the addiction phase, obviously it's hard to quit at that point. He's talking about when people first start smoking, despite hearing about all of its bad effects and being previously warned not to. You can try and defend it, but there's no logical defense. It's just fucking stupid. Simple as that.
Lillian Heblingferk - Mon, 03 Sep 2018 02:05:42 EST ID:x6r76l6R No.30125 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Eh, just keep on with not smoking. Regardless. On my moms side of rality all of her friends she grew up with, all pretty much smoked. They are just plain dying left and right. Smoke and dye feeling like shit, or chance it and not smoke and eventually feel like everything is cool.
Stay away from people who smoke, that is what gets me suddenly feeing crappy, where smoking a cig would seem like things would feel Ok again.
Cyril Mannerstotch - Sun, 09 Sep 2018 06:08:03 EST ID:git3aj67 No.30129 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Peer pressure and suggestibility are strong things. It's not stupidity. It's just a lack of understanding of how strong the influences that affect us really are.

speed detox 2.0 by Fanny Shittingway - Sun, 02 Sep 2018 10:46:48 EST ID:uh78kIBu No.30123 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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how does speed (not meth) detox affect things and feel
and how long does it take.
i have some benzos to weaken the effects what else could you suggest.
been on it for like 2 years and have some final exams in 2.5 months which i have to learn effectifly for, does it even make sense to detox now?
Jenny Cammlestone - Tue, 04 Sep 2018 16:54:46 EST ID:rByY0b28 No.30127 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I would say it's better to stay on it and detox after the exams

Having someone else pee by Fanny Dartspear - Mon, 03 Sep 2018 18:24:27 EST ID:4AIuxZRr No.30126 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What can they identify off the toxicological results about the one who peed?
Who would be the best candidate to pee in my place?

(I can bring results without anyone checking whether it was me who peed or not, so I'll take advantage of that hehe)

Hey by Samuel Fanwill - Tue, 24 Apr 2018 14:27:32 EST ID:Oz9cRT8I No.29863 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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It's going to be OK. Let go and let God. Do you have a higher power in your life yet? It can be anything. Alcoholism is a spiritual disease man. Please turn to page 153 of the Big Book ($25 by the coffee table that is one of the traditions we don't take donations). This completes my 240 hours of community service. I'm out of this bitch. Got to go and pay $3000 to get this fucking interlock removed.
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Basil Dartstone - Fri, 17 Aug 2018 14:40:00 EST ID:3O0Io09x No.30097 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Haha I hreard about this while I was in rehab, apparently it's really common in Texas. I find that to be too hilarious. I didn't drink the Kool-Aid for a second, AA/NA is absolutely a cult and seeing how many weak minded people need that crutch to control their lives really made me thankful for my skeptic nature.
Edwin Dinnerstere - Fri, 24 Aug 2018 00:27:01 EST ID:bTvU4UAH No.30104 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Oh np, if you're an old timer, might as well stick around and be their yoga or whatever.
Edwin Dinnerstere - Fri, 24 Aug 2018 00:27:39 EST ID:bTvU4UAH No.30105 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thomas Durryfuck - Thu, 30 Aug 2018 18:48:53 EST ID:pwqqRz9j No.30119 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i did the same thing on a much smaller scale 6 months total sobriety living in recovery house cause i was strung out on heroin.

As soon as i moved out of the sober house I smoked weed and just smoke weed and take benzos occasionally (which i know is playing with fire) and in November ill have a year off dope
Thomas Durryfuck - Thu, 30 Aug 2018 18:50:06 EST ID:pwqqRz9j No.30120 Ignore Report Quick Reply
btw the benzo use turned into an everyday thing which is not good but luckily i have the means to a constant supply but would like to taper off ASAP

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