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Does shaking ever stop? by Phyllis Worthingshit - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 15:46:08 EST ID:AyYZtc6y No.29041 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I used to drink liquor heavily for 3 years before going to rehab. Now im going 3 months sober, but my still shake. Have I given myself these for life? Another alcoholic said they never go away. I cant find any other info on the prognosis online.

I tried taking beta blockers too, but my hand still shakes when working with tools.

Help?
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Ebenezer Pellerstot - Sun, 19 Mar 2017 06:10:38 EST ID:aAhrOU7q No.29051 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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You need to go deep into your being with breath focus / meditation. Probably drink some fishoil, take vitamin-b and magnesium supplementation and perhaps try some medicinal marijuana, the CBD variant, that won't get you high.

Entheogens vary, but all have the biggest potential for self-realization and healing. Basically, your being can (but not "you" as 'you' only exist in your ego) can go down and find your genes resposible for regeneration of nervous tissue. Don't try, but "Let go and let God". Drink some CBD drops early in the morning, lie down again, "wake up" slowly with a focus on your well being, and let whatever happens, happen.

It's probably a very nervious state of being you're in. Very common, yes, and less common for people to find their way out, because it takes hard work. Many simply resign and deal with it that way.

It's not impossible. Best of luck.
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David Fuckingwater - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 21:37:45 EST ID:S+fU3yIH No.29063 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>29051

interesting. I can't really mess with CBD medicinal marijuana, since my job does random drug tests.

Thank you.
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Cedric Simmerspear - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 04:39:18 EST ID:aAhrOU7q No.29076 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>29063
The natural healing process can be tapped into without entheogens, but may take some more work. Let's finish off with a quote from Muhammed Ali: “If my mind can conceive it, and my heart can believe it - then I can achieve it.”

Best of luck.
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Cedric Simmerspear - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 05:06:19 EST ID:aAhrOU7q No.29077 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>29063
No. Another thing is, you possibly could take the pro-active approach where you inform your superiors that you are considering medicinal marijuana, (explaining you don't wanna get high, so the values of CBD/THC will be different from the 'high people's') in your attempt to deal with your shaking hands, as a prescription drug, and add that you're attending meditation classes and trying to shake up your lifestyle a bit, to see if it can help with your affliction. I can't imagine anything than your superiors will approve of it, if you think they will be able to tell you're honest about it, telling them you don't wanna lose your job.

Also, here's the leap of faith; you may need to explain them that there's no side-effects with medicinal marijuana; you don't feel stoned, high or anything like that, so it won't affect your job in any noticeable way. There are a lot of testemonials to that out there. It's working in very very subtle ways and won't restrain you in any of the usual pot-ways. I have used CBD drops, actually, for my addiction with pot, plus I had some nervous troubles laying completely still healing up from whiplash symptoms from an assalut. I took them for about half a year and I can't explaing how incredibly helpfull it was de-stressing myself. I can try to explain how it works comparing it to coffe. It's counter-coffe, really, but not dozing in any way. Just mellowing, destressing and kinda like meditating. Look up how CBD works, and you'll be amazed on how many afflictions and illnesses it can either cure or help people deal with. Alzheimer's is one of them. It's very profound. Look up a vid on jewtube.

It's like a toolbox of sorts. It really help having enough tools fixing your house if you wanna do it quick.

And another tip from the yoga-dude. Use it with respect and it will respect you. It's a plant remedy. Not just a chemically born molecule/pill. Therein lies the compability with our being.

Namasté and best of luck


Am I truly sober? by Albert Chundlenat - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 01:27:46 EST ID:nonAgQVI No.29034 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I quit drinking, its been about four months now. I have been attending AA meetings on and off. However, I still smoke weed like Snoop. Can I call myself sober???
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David Gunningstit - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 01:45:47 EST ID:3HIHhbs0 No.29035 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>29034
I would. Don't drink, if drinking is out of your head, keep on keeping on.
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Sidney Clennerkid - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 05:21:02 EST ID:SBrKR9g7 No.29036 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Well.... no. BUT its way better. So you made a big step up, good for you man. Someday if its needed you will decide about the weed.
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Phineas Foffingstat - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 03:03:00 EST ID:XScBMwJY No.29044 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Do whatever you want. It's all just suggestions remember?

I did aa and weed for a while until I quit (the meetings)
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Simon Wovingtug - Thu, 23 Mar 2017 00:56:07 EST ID:A26OT4NI No.29075 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thanks everyone, it helps me to know.


average lifespan for addict person by Walter Buzzfield - Thu, 09 Feb 2017 13:49:59 EST ID:eJsronbx No.28902 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So, I'm just wandering for some realistic statistics on drug addicts life expectancy. Different sorts of drugs and severety of addictions are interesting.
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Oliver Billingridge - Mon, 27 Feb 2017 17:43:35 EST ID:clkkIQvm No.28978 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>28973
> I smoke two packs a day

you dont need me to tell you thats bad. def quit maybe chew gum for that restless energy
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Phyllis Babblewater - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 19:32:23 EST ID:Hve4sWxo No.29021 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>28910
>smoking is a fairly sure, fairly honorable form of suicide.

I've been saying that for years
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Nicholas Croblingwidging - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 06:07:09 EST ID:KZ1TM0Dd No.29028 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>28911
pall mallls were the best. I basically quit. Too much of a hassle. It takes away ones true good presonality. Have seen many of people die from smoking. Coughing up blood. On oxugen all the time. COPD is a guaranteed short life after smoking
for years. I beleive I have smoked maybe 5 cigs this year. A pack a day, was never really an option, but had done it though. Yea, it's an industry of eventual death for many.
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Nicholas Croblingwidging - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 06:11:14 EST ID:KZ1TM0Dd No.29029 Ignore Report Quick Reply
smoking is useless, one can go for a long walk short what, exercise and the cravings should disappear.
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Sidney Doddlespear - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 22:14:40 EST ID:G2iYEKXR No.29074 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>29029
This. I find smoking is great when you are doing it but never before or after


Can I pass probation?¿ by >stultus - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 06:10:58 EST ID:O63QG1DV No.29066 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So, I've been playing it safe and been the most sober I've been in my life over the past four months over some court bullshit the local backwards government drug me into. I get the next three years of supervised probation for making a meme of a kid I thought was my age at the time. (Sorry, I know this isn't /qq/) Anyway, I smoked about 3 weeks ago, being around 5-6gs, and at the time, being 2 days ago, I smoked a bowl that was approximately .2-3 of a gram, so I didn't really figure it was too much of a risk, I still had a little over two weeks before my probation started, seems like enough time considering my metabolism and everything. I don't know, the closer the day comes and I keep feeling on edge about everything. What does /detox/ think?
I'm 18
162 lbs
6'3"
Lean build
Very fast metabolism
Should I be in the clear, or can anybody give some fresh insight?
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Nicholas Pablingsudging - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 14:31:24 EST ID:4gyE4GE1 No.29068 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I think, not sure, but at least a month is really necessary especially if you're a regular smoker. Up to 3 months if you're a very heavy smoker with an obesity problem (Which it sounds like you are't).

One tip that I used and passed a test once (not sure if by coincidence or the trick) was creatine. Take as much creatine as humanly possible, exercise lots and drink lots of cranberry juice and water.

If you take too much the day of the test, they will say it was diluted and make you take it again, perhaps punish you (I don't know the rules). I passed an employment test this way once with about a month's notice after years of heavy smoking.

You still have a chance of testing positive in only two weeks, I'd say a month would be safer. Good luck.
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>stultus - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 18:54:42 EST ID:O63QG1DV No.29070 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>29068
Fuck, man.
What about detox drinks?
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Nicholas Pablingsudging - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 19:19:26 EST ID:4gyE4GE1 No.29071 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>29070
Some of them work, but they usually come up as "diluted" on the first test result if you use it like the day before the test.
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>stultus - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 21:43:36 EST ID:O63QG1DV No.29073 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>29071

>https://www.amazon.com/Liquid-Stuff-Cleansing-Drink-Grape/dp/B00117YRMI/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8&th=1

Guy I've know for a while has been swearing by this stuff, says one of his friends has probation and regularly intakes a cocktail of all of 420Chan's /drug/ rainbow and has always came out clean too.


How long to be sure? by Edward Dollylen - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 05:23:57 EST ID:2xwpOxwg No.29065 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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/detox/,

I'm 29 years old and I smoke/vape weed every day. I used it to alleviate my social anxiety, but I have to get clean later this year. I'll be applying for dental hygiene school and all of my eggs are in this basket.

I weight about 187 pounds, going from smoking some fairly decent shit near daily for several consecutive years to cold turkey no weed, what the longest it could possibly take me to no-margin-of-error pass a weed drug test?
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Nicholas Pablingsudging - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 19:20:25 EST ID:4gyE4GE1 No.29072 Ignore Report Quick Reply
One month is normal, but for some people it can be up to three months (I hear). If you take detox steps I think a month should be OK.


Fits of rage when quitting weed by Fucking Deffingpine - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 18:41:19 EST ID:gbuZg/D3 No.29009 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Whenever I quit smoking weed after long term heavy use I find that little things will have me literally screaming in rage and breaking things.

Does this happen to anyone else?
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Eugene Bockleworth - Wed, 08 Mar 2017 21:21:16 EST ID:MkiMEvpl No.29010 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yes. If you want to get rid of it try physical excercises or just let the rage out. If this is not an option then think about something else (for example cats) whenever raging situation occurs
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Caroline Paffingway - Thu, 09 Mar 2017 00:26:07 EST ID:LKQzB6Ue No.29011 Ignore Report Quick Reply
orrrr DPH
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Fucking Grimforth - Mon, 13 Mar 2017 08:40:36 EST ID:rYviJuVb No.29023 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Stop being a lazy fuck, find things to keep your head busy, do exercise, go for a run
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Lydia Suzzlemon - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 02:31:53 EST ID:LGE3Jr2b No.29064 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>29010
>>29023

Can only agree.
Felt like shit on my second day sober, but then I went to boxing practice and holy shit, just a like 15 minutes in I felt so fucking great. Sparring was great to relieve my pent-up anger.
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Nicholas Pablingsudging - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 14:32:44 EST ID:4gyE4GE1 No.29069 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I've been sober for 86 days now and I'm still mad about it. I think normal anger management techniques apply, deep breathing, counting backwards from 100 or 1000, etc.

Exercise is also a good option.


BWS 2 by William Bondlepeck - Wed, 01 Feb 2017 10:04:08 EST ID:9UI2BRSD No.28884 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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The last thread isn't bumping since it's beyond the post limit. So, time for a new thread.

How long have you been sober and what reasons do you have for quitting drug(s). For those who are completely sober from said drug or drugs, how has your life changed?

As for me, I've been on suboxone for a few days now. My outlook on life is becoming positive compared to when I was popping pills. I'm still smoking weed and that's the extent of my current drug use. Everyday gets easier and easier. I hope for the best and will put the time and the effort in to better myself as a person.
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George Bardlock - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 09:39:18 EST ID:8un2hfIK No.29058 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Day 52. I have no more cravings for opiates. Slipped up a couple times and after the last time I promised myself that I would never do it again and haven't since. No longer need to use opiates as a crutch for my problems in my mind. I smoke weed and that's the extent of it. I'd rather be a daily smoker than a daily opiate user.

Happy spring everyone! We're all gonna make it!
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Caroline Fupperbanks - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 14:08:28 EST ID:4gyE4GE1 No.29059 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Day 83 totally sober, no alcohol, no weed, no psys, no "other" drugs.
I'm beginning to get used to being sober again, but I still can't say that I like it.
Anxiety is high, irritability is high.
Appetite is up in a bad way. Motivation to work out is down in a bad way.
I am convinced that drugs made me a better, fitter, more motivated person and am ticked off to be stuck in court-ordered rehab. Fuck the propaganda.
Without drugs, life is just laborious slavery and little rewards.
Trying to take a Buddhist viewpoint on it and living simply without desire, but honestly I think psychedelics actually improved my emotional wellbeing, stimulants improved my fitness, and weed relieved my anxiety. The rest like codeine and MXE were just for shits and giggles. I find myself wishing I could convince the world of the value of these things as medicines for individuals like me but cynically believe that nobody would listen.

In my life I have tried ( as far as I can remember):

  • Peyote (Twice)
  • San Pedro Cactus ( Many times )
  • Methylbuphedrone ( For a solid month or so )
  • Ecstasy ( A few times )
  • Ethylone ( Many times )
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Hugh Dunningpeck - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 15:48:36 EST ID:wAI8p3nf No.29060 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>29059
We're with you 1hunnid, bro. Some people need to be sober for their wellbeing, but people like you do it for your wellbeing. With that said, don't emphazise drugs too much. No fun that you are a different person without drugs :/
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George Bardlock - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 17:17:35 EST ID:8un2hfIK No.29061 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>29059
I can see where without weed you'd feel irritable and depressed. I get that way too when I'm dry. Your doctors can go eat a dick. So, weed is bad for you and yet it's legalized in multiple states. Yet, they put you on lithium and say that's okay? I know if you take lithium you have to get blood work done quite often. I'd rather smoke weed than take a medication that could kill me. My doctor put me on zyprexa in place of lithium. Works just fine. I still smoke weed as I feel self medicating with a plant based drug is better for me and keeps me grounded and leveled out.

Doctor tried telling me that weed is bad. Yet, I'm still smoking because I know what's best for me. How much do you want to bet a lot of these doctors smoke weed and still have the audacity to say that weed is bad and you shouldn't be self medicating? Fuck them.
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Caroline Fupperbanks - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 19:31:28 EST ID:4gyE4GE1 No.29062 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>29061
Yeah, I wish I lived in a legal state. Weed is much better medicine for keeping me calm and on the level than toxic metals for sure.

>>29060
I've used them for so long, I guess they became a part of me and my personality. They were definitely a part of my daily life.

Thanks for the support. I'm hoping I can make it through the next year until the eyes are off me so I can at least smoke weed again. I'll probably steer clear of the harder drugs for the time being just to keep the stress to a minimum.


Take Home Drug Test Faint Line by Reuben Fepperfet - Mon, 02 Jan 2017 21:10:21 EST ID:hDHWgiTJ No.28790 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I have a LabCorp urine test tomorrow.

I haven't smoked since Thanksgiving. I'm not a heavy smoker, I've probably smoked like 10 times in 2016 with a few weeks in between each session.

I've taken 3 at home urine tests, three different brands. They all come up negative, but with a faint line. One line isn't that faint though, and one is pretty faint. You get my point.

Doing some googling, I've heard conflicting things about this. Some people say "A line's a line, you passed" or "The faintness of the line has nothing to do with your ng/ml levels. The strips have no way to quantify it, they only show a line if you're under 50 ng/ml" but some other people say "The fainter it is, the closer you are to 50 ng/ml"

What's the truth here?
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Ian Tootspear - Fri, 06 Jan 2017 14:11:25 EST ID:YnLTJ3mj No.28806 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>28790
You probably smoke in your sleep lol
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Cyril Blytheshaw - Fri, 06 Jan 2017 18:59:26 EST ID:fFKN/jGe No.28809 Ignore Report Quick Reply
if you havent smoked in a month you are good to go pee in any cup.
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Matilda Blodgenetch - Sun, 15 Jan 2017 02:56:20 EST ID:00C6EdfK No.28816 Ignore Report Quick Reply
doesn't it vary based on the type of lab test?
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Simon Suckletat - Tue, 28 Feb 2017 16:44:58 EST ID:VyZCI4IX No.28982 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I have one of these tests, "care check" brand from Amazon.
I smoked yesterday and almost daily whole last month, and mine looks exactly the same, a faint line.
I think these tests are B.S.
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Esther Dendlefuck - Mon, 20 Mar 2017 15:33:45 EST ID:C1mJOnAl No.29054 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This happend to me for a court ordered drug test and the guy said it meant that the thc was almost out of my system and he counted it as a pass.


Does shaking ever stop? by Phyllis Worthingshit - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 15:46:08 EST ID:AyYZtc6y No.29040 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I used to drink liquor heavily for 3 years before going to rehab. Now im going 3 months sober, but my still shake. Have I given myself these for life? Another alcoholic said they never go away. I cant find any other info on the prognosis online.

I tried taking beta blockers too, but my hand still shakes when working with tools.

Help?
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Hamilton Blubblenack - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 22:05:56 EST ID:XCl6Sc9E No.29043 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>29040
Some doctors say it can last. Could try a reset button and drink again. Not a great idea. In all these may stop, try using your habds in different ways. Umm, I think
a benozo like clonazapam would work after a reset, then a few weeks of clonazapam would fix this. May sound waay off but 3 months is a long time to shake. Benzos taken for a short while may quiet down what is causing the shakes. Shaking and trying to accomplish what would be basically easy
tasks sucks.

I doubt these would last for life, otherwise a good part of the population would be noticably shaky.
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Sidney Hurringstit - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 14:45:37 EST ID:4gyE4GE1 No.29047 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I have the shakes from a psychiatric med called Aripiprazole and they're permanent. My doctor prescribes propranolol and benadryl, which helps a little bit but not entirely. No idea if they would help you.


light smoking by Ian Fiblingmock - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 11:57:12 EST ID:QcH7zhfG No.29039 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey /detox/. I smoke every day, but only in one-hitter sized amounts per session. As such, I go through about a gram a week, except last week, in which I went through an eighth because it was spring break.

Given this, and the fact that I've been on the gram-a-week-in-small-amounts-each-day schedule for roughly a year, how long would I have to quit in order to pass a urine test?


Benz by Sidney Hissletack - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 21:27:13 EST ID:0QIDnQQp No.29031 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I started to take kpins prescribed .5 x2 a day since the start of December 2016. I have abused these heavily and made an excuse once I lost my pills to get a new script cause I binged. I currently can't get another 30 .5 until march 3rd that its if I don't get denied.

I've taken roughly 200 .5 pills since Dec and I have never experienced benzos prior Because I ran out of my script early and I was worried about withdrawal I've been taking etizolam. I've been relatively safe. I want off this boat but I'll already ingest around 150mg of etizolam over the last couple weeks. I can't afford to keep this up anymore and I need some advice on what to do. I'd rather not get hospital assistance. I understand the effects of cold turkey and will NOT being doing so.


Diluting a UA. by Emma Wendlespear - Tue, 14 Mar 2017 12:46:45 EST ID:fLKxAL0p No.29025 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey there /detox/. I got a surprise callback from a job application that was a total moonshot. Problem is I hadn't heard anything for two weeks and I smoked about 2 bowls over the course of 4 days about 4 days ago, after not smoking for several months. Now they want me to come back to take a drug test tomorrow.

I know I'm fucked if I don't screw with the drug test. Is it possible to dilute my urine by drinking a lot of water, but increase my creatinine levels by taking creatine? I really feel like a retard for putting myself in this situation so feel free to call me dumb. What do you think guys, can I make it?
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Graham Shittingdale - Tue, 14 Mar 2017 12:52:25 EST ID:w2GHCRa7 No.29026 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>29025

literally just did this a week ago.

pre-employment drug screens dont watch you go.

First you need clean pee from someone, if you cant get clean pee from anyone you know then good luck.

If you can get clean pee, go to your local gas station and buy one of those big 5 hour energy bottles and take the label off, pour it out, and rinse it out real good.

Put the clean pee in it, wear tight as FUCK briefs, but bottle under your ballsack for a good hour right up until the test.

Pour clean pee into UA cup, voila. just make sure the pee has reached your body temp, hence being under your balls for so long. needs to be warm


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