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What keeps you going? by Edwin Finnerdale - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 15:52:35 EST ID:H5zvl/ea No.29741 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Benz and booze addict here. I can't see myself living without it. Treatment isn't really an option, I'm in America and have no money or insurance. I'd just rather die than leave my family with a bunch of medical bills. I've tried every antidepressant there is as well as therapy for 10 years, and I'm still here. I think it's just time to go. *shrug*

What keeps you sober(ish) people living in the moment? For me, my dogs make me happy. I would never leave them purposely. But they are 16 years old and will probably pass soon anyway (which pains me immensely). I find pleasure in essentially nothing.

I want to get of benzos for good, especially with the sketchy street presses, but I just don't know how.
Martha Piffinglidge - Sat, 17 Feb 2018 15:35:56 EST ID:Ut6X+wPO No.29753 Ignore Report Quick Reply
My family and my goals. My family I love and want to be there for, I couldn't imagine disappearing on them. And my goals give me something to be focused on day-to-day, right now that's working to get through school. That feeling you get when you accomplish a step on that way to your goals, that's what keeps me going. The more you do it the better it gets. I didn't care about it in the beginning, I was just kinda pushing myself because I felt I had no other choice. But now i like it

Kratom noob Trying to Quit Opiates by Jarvis Fucklefield - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 16:08:34 EST ID:bfKiBKJ8 No.29742 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I have purchased some Kratom and I'm finding WAY too much differing info about how to dose. So to the point

The kratom I purchased:
A "sampler" pack of 250mg Red Bali and 250mg of Elephant for 50 dollars from a popular online source. These are not 5-10-150-20x or anything like that, just regular powdered stuff that had good reviews.

2. I'm not even sure I got the right kind of kratom, I did research and from what I could tell Red Bali was good for WD and elephant was "strong" so if I fucked up the strain let me know

3. Dose. I'm mainly looking to relieve as much of the withdrawl symptoms as possible. Not necessarily looking to "get high" or anything, I just don't want to feel like junk. So what should I start out with?

4. ROA how should I consume it? I'm a poppy seed tea drinker so I'm used to NASTY taste so whatever way is the best I'm down for whatever

BACKGROUND: I'd say my PST usage after my taper will be equivalent to like a 60-70mg a day OXY habit at the MAX! If I taper exactly how my plan is then I'd guess that is more likely to be 30-40mg equivalent OXY dose. I know this might sound quite low but I have terrible arthritis so the aches and pains normally felt during WD is amplified for me so it sucks worse.

tl;dr - Kratom noob. I have Red bali and Elephant 250mg each. How to consume, and how much to make WD from opiates suck less

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Jarvis Fucklefield - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 16:50:14 EST ID:bfKiBKJ8 No.29744 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm actually not sure how I got this on my hard drive. You can tell it's been shopped tho if you look by her right arm where it meets her dress by her stomach.
Edwin Finnerdale - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 17:09:43 EST ID:H5zvl/ea No.29745 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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There are three main strains, red, green, and white. Each has a specific profile, but in general, red is relaxing and pain relieving ,but not going to knock you on your ass, I have fibro and take it before work and it's fine. Red is awesome for opiate withdrawals. White is an energizing one, they typically chew the leaves in Thailand during the work day, and green is a mix of both pain relief and a bit of energy. Sometimes I mix red and green if I need a hint of energy.
You can also mix your own blends once you start experimenting!
As far as ROA, I like to toss and wash. If you can handle "nasty" flavors (kratom just tastes like mild dirt and green tea to me), this is the best method IMHO. Be prepared the first time you do it. Have 12+ ounces of liquid near you, scoop the powder closer to the back of your mouth, and take a few quick swallows. You may need to swish it around a bit to get all the powdery bits. It can be made into a tea also, which you might like, but I have never tried that.
If you want to skip that, look into a product you can buy called Cap M Quick on eBay or Amazon. You can fill a ton of empty gelatin pills with the machine at a time. It's under $30 bucks, well worth it. I like to have a stash if I need to discreetly take a few tablets. I've tried to quickly toss and wash at work and got green powder all over my black shirt :D
TBH I never really measure, I just eyeball it, so hopefully someone has insight on that.
Good luck OP!
Edwin Finnerdale - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 17:46:27 EST ID:H5zvl/ea No.29748 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Found a handy dandy chart for ya mate
Jarvis Fucklefield - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 17:54:53 EST ID:bfKiBKJ8 No.29749 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thanks anon! Great help.
So 3tsp is around 15 grams so 500 (total) should last me a good bit.

Also I'm looking to outright quit opiates so naturally I'm concerned about swapping one addiction for another. So does kratom build tolerance with use? If so does it skyrocket with use like opiates? Are there any WD symptoms if I stop the kratom cold turkey? Thanks guise.
Jarvis Fucklefield - Thu, 15 Feb 2018 17:55:16 EST ID:bfKiBKJ8 No.29750 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thanks anon! Great help.
So 3tsp is around 15 grams so 500 (total) should last me a good bit.

Also I'm looking to outright quit opiates so naturally I'm concerned about swapping one addiction for another. So does kratom build tolerance with use? If so does it skyrocket with use like opiates? Are there any WD symptoms if I stop the kratom cold turkey? Thanks guise.

I keep abusing drugs to be someone I'm not so that I can feel loved for once by Frederick Dillydock - Sun, 11 Feb 2018 11:33:05 EST ID:/1qsLh2A No.29735 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I just spent the past two days doing meth and oxy and benzos with someone I met on Tinder at their friend's place. I was clean for almost a year now. The girl was so sweet and nice to me, and we cuddled a lot, and were really intimate, and got along well, but we were high on meth and other drugs, so I know that's the only reason.

But, just for once, I felt so happy and normal and not anxious, and I finally got all the physical intimacy that I've never really had in my life. Somebody expressed that physical intimacy with me and I got to express it back, in such a comforting and deeply-fulfilling way. For those two days I felt so safe, and content, and okay, and I even loved myself, too. I finally just felt loved. And that's all I have ever wanted to feel.

The second I left their house, I just started sobbing uncontrollably and I continued to all the way on the drive home, and I still am crying, because I'm realizing now what I just did and I hate myself so much for it, especially after being clean for so long. I was doing so well and my friends were so proud of me for staying clean, but, fuck, I'm so plain and boring and empty and self-loathing by default, that it feels like without drugs the only things I ever do are work, eat, sleep, and hate myself in between. I cried because I knew I was going back to that when I got home - my empty apartment where I am always alone. I knew those two days of amazing, intimate love and happiness were over and the second that realization hit me I cried even harder.

I hate being alone so fucking much that I'll turn myself into someone I'm not by abusing drugs until someone will share love or intimacy with me, and I'm just always so afraid that I'm just always going to be alone and I'm never going to feel the way I just felt after that drug binge. I'm alone again right now, and I hate it so much. I just want to feel loved. I just want to be touched, hugged, held, and all that stuff, by someone I can trust and feel safe with. And the only time that has ever happened to me, I was on drugs.

I just don't understand why I need to be a fucking addict to ever feel loved by someone
Nathaniel Peddleshit - Tue, 13 Feb 2018 07:46:14 EST ID:MMNwHn9l No.29739 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You should find that intimacy you want without the drugs.

Its rough, birds of a feather flock together so a druggie is most likely to find someone who gets it among other druggies, which is something I struggle with myself trying to stay clean. The only people who get it are hoods.

Suboxone detox by Oliver Mockleshit - Sat, 27 Jan 2018 04:42:32 EST ID:mlKdKExn No.29704 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Day 3 is incoming. I've heard different accounts of how long it took to get off sub withdrawal, and they range from a week to a month. Yesterday I had a bit of a mental breakdown whilst in an NA meeting, but I made it without using (no cravings yet, haven't had cravings since rehab before I had a spiritual awakening which saved my life) And I just woke up at 3am. In the evening today it'll be 72 hours. It'll be at its worst physically soon I hope. I keep telling myself it's not as bad as heroin withdrawal, I've been clean off that for 5 months and now I've run out of suboxone. I've been weaning down for a few months now, and I was down to 1mg or less per day. No amount of preparation makes this any easier though. If I get through today, I can make it through the rest. I'll be refilling my remeron prescription today for sleep (hopefully it works) and mentally and emotionally I'm fine (most of the time)

Compared to heroin withdrawal this is child's play, but it still is no joke. I've been able to get decent sleep so far, but who knows how the rest of it is going to play out. Anyone else get off this shit? I also have a possession case coming up in court for heroin, but I have a lawyer, I've been to rehab, I've been going to meetings several times a week for months, and my sponsor is willing to come to court as a character witness if necessary, so sentencing should be minimal.
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Emma Drissleworth - Mon, 29 Jan 2018 08:25:24 EST ID:qcOuRvSz No.29710 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The few times that I did take subs to get clean, I started at 2mg a day for 1 month. Then, 1mg a day for another month and then I'd come completely off the subs. Only WD symptoms I had from it was restless leg syndrome. Only lasted 2 weeks. After that I was completely clean and sober.

I relapsed a few months ago. Been taking a maintenance dose of 10mg methadone a day to keep myself from getting sick. Will be seeing a doctor in 2 weeks to help me get clean again and for the last time because I have no more desire to keep popping and snorting pills. I'm over it and I'm done with it. Last time I made it i was clean for 45 days after coming off subs and then I relapsed. But, this time I'm not going to let myself relapse. I know what triggers me to want to get high now. I'm a bit older and wiser now.
Martha Honeyridge - Mon, 29 Jan 2018 22:15:46 EST ID:mlKdKExn No.29711 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's been 5 days. Yesterday was the worst of all of them, had some insane body spasms and restlessness coupled with hot flashes/chills and couldn't sleep the night before. But after a while they calmed down enough to where I could sleep. I got 15 hours of sleep afterwards, and today I'm just cold and sniffly. The worst of it is over.

To anyone who says it takes a month, fuck you. Those people made it sound worse than it actually is and scared to get off it.
Ebenezer Publingbud - Wed, 31 Jan 2018 10:26:06 EST ID:O4QqnIeq No.29713 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It differs from person to person. But, I know what you mean. You do have to come off it sometime right? People are too scared to take that last step when they already know it's going to happen anyway.

Glad the worst is over for you. Now, it should be smooth sailing from here on out. Keep the good work up and don't give in to temptation whenever it may arise.
Edwin Sackleshaw - Mon, 05 Feb 2018 22:04:23 EST ID:ICmUbIiV No.29725 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Any updates? How are you doing?
George Gammershaw - Sat, 10 Feb 2018 06:31:21 EST ID:SSy6poVj No.29732 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I thought the thread title was"suboxone diet."

Best liver support supplements by Augustus Mattinghot - Sat, 03 Feb 2018 18:33:56 EST ID:wBRWJkvj No.29720 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I like my drugs
Mainly alcohol and cocaine off a weekend

Been doing it for the last 10 years

Now I still look fresh because I go the gym and eat healthy drink lots of water.

But i know the amount I take will take its toll on my body over the years.

So with that in mind what supplments should o take.

I know of milk thistle.Some people think it's a meme others espicaly juice heads think it works.I tried it once (well a full bottle) and I think it helped but I hardly get hangovers any way.

I've also read about liv 52 and NAC what's supposed to help with paracetamol over doses
The there is activated charcoal and ALA
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Military Piss Test by Ebenezer Fanworth - Sat, 16 Dec 2017 01:22:04 EST ID:E6B/Rrfx No.29627 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I got accepted into the United States Air Force and was told next Friday (the 22nd) I would take my physical. This includes a drug test. To celebrate I took 100mg of hydrocodone about 3 hours ago, knowing I won't be able to do any drugs once I'm in the military. My recruiter texted me 30 minutes ago and said the physical has been moved to Tuesday the 19th. Will the hydros be out of my system by then? I'm nervous.
Fucking Pittwill - Sat, 16 Dec 2017 14:29:57 EST ID:3LL+lcGR No.29630 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Internet says it takes 2-4 days for hydros to leave your system. That's 96 hours max which would put me at Tuesday night. The physical is Tuesday night/Wednesday morning so if the piss test is that next day i should be good if I drink a lot of water and run everyday. ...right?
John Sucklehall - Thu, 21 Dec 2017 08:48:29 EST ID:3tgrd2Ek No.29644 Ignore Report Quick Reply
100 mgs, arent they like 7.5 mgs a pill? Eeek for the time and eeek for rhe acetominophen amounts.
I<3Jesus - Tue, 26 Dec 2017 23:24:17 EST ID:L+zYr+DL No.29650 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I would say there is a pretty good chance that the military will know about drug use if you speak about it on the internet.
Alice Gungerlet - Sat, 13 Jan 2018 07:26:33 EST ID:FnBDQJS6 No.29685 Ignore Report Quick Reply
how did it go?
Phyllis Sucklemick - Wed, 31 Jan 2018 07:49:28 EST ID:rYIIdhhG No.29712 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thats bullshit man. I was in the military (didn't get kicked out just finished my contract) and I met so many guys who smoked weed, snorted coke and did steroids. Not sure what US Army is like but people still use drugs in the Canadian Army. It's just something that is kept on the downlow. Sometimes we get random drug tests but nothing ever comes out of it.

Not telling OP to do drugs and go nuts as a new recruit but you'd be surprise. I remember doing my infantry training course and on the weekends doing 8balls of coke and smoking weed.

Don't be so paranoid.

So can I drive by Hannah Wiblingcocke - Sun, 21 Jan 2018 14:59:22 EST ID:/aw9jl4Z No.29697 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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If I've taken 10-15mg Valium the night before ?
Ebenezer Dunningmudge - Sun, 28 Jan 2018 17:46:12 EST ID:Kkh2V26L No.29707 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Have you taken it before let alone that much? Likely OK but if you ask, you would likely just fall asleep from it and nothing more.

test!!! by hey - Tue, 23 Jan 2018 07:57:19 EST ID:NquTJ457 No.29699 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How do u know if someone has posioned you wil lead arcinc "spelled wrong" or cyinide?? I think somone in the hotel is releasing it into the air it is either the weird white front desk guy or someone in the neighboring rooms idk man who is doin this?
Edwin Ponderman - Wed, 24 Jan 2018 00:54:59 EST ID:G2iYEKXR No.29701 Ignore Report Quick Reply
youre better off calling your local authorities for an immediate response


Anxiety off weed by Cornelius Grimbanks - Wed, 27 Dec 2017 08:56:10 EST ID:xSQ3CYRT No.29656 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I’ve been smoking for two years each night and I stopped cold turkey about over a month ago. Among other issues I have depression and anxiety and I made the decision because I didn’t think it was a good idea to smoke. Just got to a point where I couldn’t do it anymore (weekends being the exception)

Things are clearer but I feel more anxious and moody lately and it’s scaring me. Can anyone relate to this or provide advice?
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Ascetic - Wed, 27 Dec 2017 09:55:58 EST ID:L+zYr+DL No.29660 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Perhaps do something in your life to have inner peace like something that helps rid a person of anxiety.
Cornelius Dindersudge - Wed, 27 Dec 2017 19:10:12 EST ID:+YheMiae No.29665 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Oddly enough I don’t have the craving to smoke. That’s what’s bothering me. Maybe it’s just withdrawal.
Angus Snodwater - Thu, 28 Dec 2017 00:58:07 EST ID:Miuyj/+F No.29668 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah weed is very easy to quit. I don't think you have withdrawals, although I have heard rumors that heavy smokers can get them, I think they are bullshit.

What I think is going on is that you've spent so long in that comfy blanket of 11-OH-THC that you've forgotten what it's like to be completely sober:

Cold, stark and crisp.

I'm also assuming you started smoking every day for a reason in the first place.
Phoebe Fuckingman - Thu, 28 Dec 2017 17:01:53 EST ID:/19boi00 No.29670 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Quitting daily use of any mind-altering drug and entering sobriety is bound to give anyone up's and downs and cause them trouble regulating their emotions for awhile.

You have to find a new way to help you cope with life because your brain has gotten used to the pattern of 'feel bad - get high - feel good'. You can try 'feel bad - meditate - feel better', 'feel bad - exercise - feel better', 'feel bad - meeting - feel better' or 'feel bad -fuck - feel better' or anything you can think of to supplement smoking weed with.
Doris Gibblefoot - Tue, 09 Jan 2018 20:15:08 EST ID:G7GsfbOt No.29681 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Good way of wording it.

Hair Drug Test by Edward Woffingpot - Wed, 27 Dec 2017 19:23:05 EST ID:wsckM8Au No.29666 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Just got my CDL, truck driving licence. Every company I look into does Hair drug testing. My hair is very long, been growing out for 5years, during those 5 years I dabbed everyday. Just quit 3 months ago. Do I need to shave my head to pass a hair test?
Angus Snodwater - Thu, 28 Dec 2017 00:52:05 EST ID:Miuyj/+F No.29667 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Those sneaky fuckers typically take a hair from your arm to circumvent that.
You need to shave everything, including your eyebrows, and show up to the job interview completely hairless.
Lillian Summerbury - Tue, 09 Jan 2018 15:35:44 EST ID:+e22LHhM No.29679 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Bleach your hair blond then dye it back its normal color.

Tramadol without withdrawals by Hamilton Cazzlebury - Sun, 31 Dec 2017 05:24:39 EST ID:4pImkNFk No.29672 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How much and how often can someone take Tramadol without worring about withdrawal symptoms? I got some for my back pain and about 100-150mg taken at evening is both pleasant and takes away my pain.
Can I continue with this dossage for a few days or will it give me withdrawalls at the end?
Frederick Dodgedet - Sun, 31 Dec 2017 16:44:04 EST ID:OluZ9VzI No.29675 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've had wd's from as little as 3 weeks of use, but that was extremely heavy use. Probably 300-400mg's a day throughout the day and night(took them around the clock for pain). If you use as much as you're using once a day you probably won't notice anything.

Tramadol withdrawals are pretty mild overall and for me they were always gone after 4 or 5 days. The only symptoms I remember were skin crawling and premature ejaculation(detox dick nawmsayin) as well as an overall sense of discomfort and fogginess.

If you have depression or anxiety it could get much worse during wd's but that goes for pretty much any drug.

Urine test by Henry Singerwill - Wed, 27 Dec 2017 00:30:45 EST ID:aiwpE0HC No.29652 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I applied for a job at a company which I just discovered does urine tests to new employees. I finished college last semester and I still haven't found a job so I've been smoking pretty much daily for the entirety of this semester. Assuming I get hired, I can't imagine the test being any day past Jan 15. How fucked am I?
Henry Singerwill - Wed, 27 Dec 2017 00:31:28 EST ID:aiwpE0HC No.29653 Ignore Report Quick Reply
PS. Im bored af right now and I kinda want to smoke but I know that would be very stupid
Wesley Parryford - Wed, 27 Dec 2017 11:45:37 EST ID:QLpUWLw3 No.29662 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You're fucked, this is why it's generally considered a good rule of thumb to go clean for a month before even beginning your job search.
Thomas Billingson - Thu, 28 Dec 2017 02:06:33 EST ID:aiwpE0HC No.29669 Ignore Report Quick Reply
that's a thing? I've never even heard of any companies around here doing urine tests before

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