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stopping opiates by Jarvis Biddlewater - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 15:33:50 EST ID:0GXrekh1 No.28837 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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It's gotten really hard for me to go a workday without doing opiates (actually i really only do heroin now)
The day drags on and I get tired/stressed and it's so easy to get. This was supposed to be a controlled thing, but it's really just all I want to do every day.
I realized earlier that ever since I started with pills I stopped being able to save money, and since I started H I've actually been running out of cash days before payday.
I'm not going to do them anymore. That's what I said last Saturday, before my friend gave me some dope he owed me on Monday. He's the one who offered me pills for the first time and then got me on H lol. It's good for him because he's an addict and steals from me when I give him money. He owes me $40 right now, will probably try to give it back in dope. I'm just going to let him keep it.
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David Bocklebanks - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 01:05:30 EST ID:0GXrekh1 No.28848 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There aren't any other drugs I could take. I hate alcohol and benzos, weed gives me anxiety and paranoia if I'm not at home. I could do Adderall but it's too expensive and I don't really enjoy it.

All of the other guys at work do meth. I tried it once and hated it.
Fanny Ginkindine - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 14:39:18 EST ID:MtMEhhW6 No.28865 Ignore Report Quick Reply
OP here just updating.
This shit is a lot easier than I was working it up to be in my head. I feel a little under the weather, but I'm so thankful I didn't do H long enough to have serious WDs.

I just like opiates too much to use them with any moderation. The first time I tried Oxy something clicked and I knew it was going to be a problem. They make you feel like everything is fulfilled. You'll never get anywhere in your life if all you aspire to do is get money, get high and repeat.
Basil Pittfuck - Tue, 24 Jan 2017 18:52:47 EST ID:jnjR0REE No.28866 Ignore Report Quick Reply
For me opiates covers everything I need in a drug thats why their so addicting. Like you I started from pills to H and would sometimes do it daily for a week or 2 then stop to let my body adjust back so I don't get serious WDs. I know you said weed, benzos, booze isn't your thing and stimulants in general are expensive especially when done daily. Its best for you to stay away from drugs in general if you can't keep them in moderation. Get into exercise and smoking weed with friends in a safe paranoia free environment.
Mushroom-Madness - Mon, 06 Feb 2017 04:40:12 EST ID:cxyckTsb No.28894 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sounds to me like you need some kratom
Ian Blackford - Mon, 06 Feb 2017 10:14:01 EST ID:YrvNogof No.28895 Ignore Report Quick Reply
any updates OP?

Help by Hannah Menkinfuck - Sun, 05 Feb 2017 12:19:54 EST ID:tjbX8ywf No.28892 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm heavily addicted to 420chan
How do i stop?
James Pannerstock - Sun, 05 Feb 2017 12:35:28 EST ID:YrvNogof No.28893 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lurk moar

Light smoker by Eugene Bonningdale - Fri, 27 Jan 2017 19:19:01 EST ID:/hC4wf64 No.28871 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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how long would it take for me to pass a blood/urine test completely if I only smoke two times a week for two months?
Eliza Dogglesat - Mon, 30 Jan 2017 23:20:12 EST ID:jnjR0REE No.28881 Ignore Report Quick Reply

give yourself 3 weeks at least with exercise and antioxidants, you should be clean unless by the end of 3rd week on average. If your skinny and active then maybe 2 weeks, if your a fat fuck give it 4 weeks or more.

etizolam and drug tests by Fooking Nagger - Mon, 30 Jan 2017 18:48:36 EST ID:StLCHyRL No.28878 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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(crossposting this to /detox/ and /benz/)

I will be taking a pre employment drug test sometime within the next week. This is an amazingly good job and I was very lucky to get the position. I really don't wanna blow it because of some stupid herbs and powders.

How long does etiz last in the system?


I was eating and smoking plenty marijuana during the xmas break and new years. After Jan 8 it was just edibles about 20 to 45mg THC a day. I stopped the edibles on Jan 12th. Took two dip stick tests yesterday (50ng and 20ng) and passed both, so I'm not to worried about the weed


So i know etizolam isnt considered a benzo but I heard it can pop for benzos on piss tests and sometimes the lab can detect etizolam.

Here's how I use etizolam. Maximum twice a week and no more than 2mg. I use it for relaxation and good sleep. My last use was last week on Thursday so the 26th I believe. 4 days ago. And befor that I used 2 days prior, the 24th. Before that I used about a week before then sometime between the 17 and the 19th. Before that I didnt use since NYE.
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Fooking Nagger - Mon, 30 Jan 2017 18:52:40 EST ID:StLCHyRL No.28879 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I also take kratom daily but as fsr as I know it shouldn't be a problem. please let me know if otherwise but I'm pretty sure its safe. thank you
Fooking Nagger - Mon, 30 Jan 2017 18:53:04 EST ID:StLCHyRL No.28880 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I also take kratom daily but as fsr as I know it shouldn't be a problem. please let me know if otherwise but I'm pretty sure its safe. thank you

Pupils by Eugene Bonningdale - Fri, 27 Jan 2017 19:38:45 EST ID:/hC4wf64 No.28872 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How long does it take for pupils to go back to normal after smoking weed? Only two places I've seen this asked say from like 5 hours to 48
Shitting Desslestod - Mon, 30 Jan 2017 02:45:38 EST ID:DiEeJGye No.28877 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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depend of your term of consuming. If you have been smoking for couple week your testosterone gets lower. After exercises you will feel better.

Those damn hair follicles... by Hannah Deffingfet - Wed, 18 Jan 2017 22:42:42 EST ID:g4J9FTE3 No.28824 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey guys, I had a minor relapse in which I used from 1/04-1/19. My ex girlfriend wants to hair test me 90 days after the 11th of January. She thinks that it's the last day I used, I don't want to make things worse obviously so I agreed to take a hair test for her exactly 90 days after 1/11 to prove (or not) that I have been clean since that exact date.

Now, I already am going to just assume that any of the shampoos or whatever that they sell are complete bullshit just like the detox potions they sell for weed/other drugs. I have a pretty fast metabolism and I generally exercise daily. The drugs in my hair would be meth and heroin, she doesn't care about me using weed. If I stop my usage on 1/19 (Giving it an extra day as a buffer since I will stop using after tonight but the drugs won't have metabolized yet.) Is there any chance I have of succeeding? I really would like to reconcile with her more than anything in the world, this is extremely important to me. Would cardio exercise, maintaining a health diet, etc... even help at all?

Please let me know if there is any way at all for me to mitigate my chances of failing this test! I really need advice here...
Jenny Chonderchere - Thu, 19 Jan 2017 00:25:06 EST ID:gTj147k5 No.28825 Ignore Report Quick Reply
meth and heroin? i think you have bigger problems than just your gf dumping you. she's the last thing you should be worrying about. you should be worried about yourself.
Hannah Deffingfet - Thu, 19 Jan 2017 01:27:31 EST ID:g4J9FTE3 No.28826 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've dealt with full on addiction to both of these substances and have gotten off of both of them for a long time. My recent usage is due to being pathetic and resorting to a drug cocktail as a means of suicide about a week ago. As you can tell, my intentional overdose was unsuccessful. I have since stopped using after my bender, and I need to prove to her that I am not going back to being a junkie like I was before.
Jenny Chonderchere - Thu, 19 Jan 2017 02:19:51 EST ID:gTj147k5 No.28827 Ignore Report Quick Reply
well atleast you stopped using. i can't say or tell what your WD is like right now. but, it seems like you're determined to keep your relationship with your girl and get sober for the better. good job so far.
Hedda Lightdock - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 19:29:30 EST ID:XB8zVI3a No.28862 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just come clean with her that you used once.

Non-consenual meth by Priscilla Duvingtuck - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 11:50:32 EST ID:DrTDbDdo No.28832 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Having a hard time typing, so sorry if it is wrong

I hooked up with a person online, normally not something I do but whatever
Seemed like a nice person, we meet & they get me lubed up as I am bent over the bed and then I feel something else go up my ass. I think, okay, it's just extra lube or something. Whatever.
Half way through going at it I start having an out of body experience. I didnt find out until afterwards when they told me that they had given me a fucking crystal meth enema with no mention of it beforehand.
I started freaking out and asked them how much. They said a bowl's worht, but I have never done meth so I don't know how much that is.
I have moderate form of epilepsy that normally doesn't come up much, but it triggered an attack shortly afterwards. My pupils were scary large and I spent hours violently shaking and spitting everywhere. it's been about 48 hours or so and things seem to be getting better, but I cannot stop shaking and catching myself breathing errratically and flipping out over minor thoughts
still haven't slept, but I don't want to go to a doctor because the situation is uncomfortable

Hooked up with someone who put meth up my ass without telling me and I don't know what to do. Please help
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Nell Worthingman - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 17:27:38 EST ID:DrTDbDdo No.28850 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thank you for your help!
I feel jet lagged and angry I had to miss work, but everything seems back to normal.
I am definitely reporting them, it is just weird. It doesn't feel like date rape. I was already there for sex. I didn't need any drugs to be persuaded. Who the hell just gives away something like meth for no reason anyway? I thought it was expensive.
Anyways, thanks again! I just smoked weed, took melatonin, and watched shows.
Fanny Guffinglock - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 19:25:42 EST ID:0GXrekh1 No.28851 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>thought it was expensive
You'd ve surprised
Phineas Billinggold - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 20:33:56 EST ID:jnjR0REE No.28854 Ignore Report Quick Reply

You'd be really surprised. I can't even avoid it where I'm at, last week I saw my guy for coke/H and on top of it he added shards for free even though I said I didn't want any several times. Almost 80% I'm not looking for shard, it just appears while going about my day. I don't see much use in it(lasts too long) besides sex but then I have to smoke a bunch of weed to keep me hard.
John Clirringfig - Sun, 22 Jan 2017 23:11:50 EST ID:DrTDbDdo No.28855 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Huh, it is strange that it is so prolific.
The sex was actually pretty incredible. It was like six hours of every stockpiled endorphin being spent at once. I don't know how anyone could stay hard on that stuff, though. Not trying to be crude, but it caused my balls to ascend to places in my body they did not belong. It was probably because I was flipping out on seizures and meth, but I was legitimately paranoid I had been chemically castrated for a bit there.
Phineas Billinggold - Mon, 23 Jan 2017 00:08:00 EST ID:jnjR0REE No.28856 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I can stay hard as a rock but I have to smoke tons of weed to the point of waste, you could do edibles or dabs for stronger dosages. Most hard drugs make me feel off for a day or 2 but im still able to go to work. Meth will make me feel like a damn zombie for maybe 5 days at least, and I usually have no choice but to call sick to work.

looking for advice by Thomas Pablingkadge - Mon, 16 Jan 2017 19:00:08 EST ID:AsLkV3RP No.28819 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I have stopped using heroin and deleted my contacts i have been sober for 4 days i have a job interview this week on wednesday while going through withdrawls i used an OTC sleep aid and today i looked up that the active ingredient can cause a false positive should i be worried or should i buy a detox drink from the head shop
Priscilla Smallspear - Sat, 21 Jan 2017 20:32:17 EST ID:f++Sdu95 No.28846 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You can't just post that and not tell us the active ingredient.

BWS by Sophie Cerringchure - Fri, 19 Apr 2013 03:08:25 EST ID:cLmtTVud No.20893 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Bump while sober. Didn't see any thread of this kind in here and thought it could be of some help for those trying to quit.

I'm not quitting but just taking a pause from weed. Haven't really smoked in 10 days (not counting those 4 hits I tooks from a friends spliff at a party while drunk)

>tell your reasons and how long it's been.

I just want weed to be more like a treat and not a everyday normal thing. After the pose I'm gonna lower my smoking to about once or twice a week.

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Walter Shittingbury - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 14:52:39 EST ID:gTj147k5 No.28873 Ignore Report Quick Reply
tomorrow i start on suboxone. going to be a slow taper. will take 2 months before i am clean and off subs. I hope all goes well. I'm a bit enthusiastic about this. after this is all said and done i can focus on making a life for myself and do the things that make me happy.
Eugene Buzzbanks - Sat, 28 Jan 2017 23:07:59 EST ID:pMIIJ3fd No.28874 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Tomorrow I will be 26 months clean from heroin and all other illicit drugs. I still drink from time to time, but rarely get drunk. I visit this site every now and then to remember those times when I was an 18 year old senior in high school shooting heroin and taking cough medicine I stole from the dollar store. I am 23 now and haven't been on this site regularly since I was 18.

Many of my friends have died from heroin. I almost died from heroin. Quit that shit before it's too late.
Angus Cussledock - Sun, 29 Jan 2017 08:45:54 EST ID:gTj147k5 No.28875 Ignore Report Quick Reply
good shit dude! you have come a helluva long way. today is my first day on suboxone. you give me inspiration just by reading that you've been sober for quite a while now; 2 years. what keeps you going? how much has your life changed since you've been sober?
William Billywone - Sun, 29 Jan 2017 13:50:30 EST ID:9UI2BRSD No.28876 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Time to get off the opiates once and for all. I'm back on subs and today is the first day. It'll take me until April to get through my taper. I have high hopes for myself that I can get through this and never touch another pill again. It's time to truly focus on myself and getting my shit together. I have some goals in mind for what I want to accomplish this year. This gives me motivation and inspiration to give all of this my 100% effort.

It's time to get this ball rolling. The sooner I get clean the better off I'll be.
Clara Murdfoot - Tue, 31 Jan 2017 10:01:35 EST ID:9UI2BRSD No.28882 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Good morning everyone.

It's been three days since I got on subs. I've been meditating everyday to clear my mind and gain a sense of self. Been meditating for a year now and it's helped me immensely. I feel better than I have in a couple weeks or even a whole year tbh. I do have high hopes for myself and what I set out to achieve in life is what will make me happy. Everything is going good.

Fuck sobriety by Ernest Chennerbury - Sun, 08 May 2016 01:29:53 EST ID:9LdBlQb0 No.28129 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I fucking hate being sober, it's literal hell. Every negative feeling exists, there's no enlightenment or any sort of uplifting mood. I get very insecure, depressed and very lonely. The drugs aren't there to numb it. I don't want to get on antidepressants, it sounds like complete bullshit. I want something that takes it ALL way, I don't want treatment or anything that wastes my time only for the depression to come back. I just want my drugs that's it. Why can't I have that? Why does society have to repress drugs from us? Why is it so hard to get? It's as if life just wants you to be miserable. Fuck I wouldn't mind killing myself over it, at least I died happy. Opiates in particular im speaking of, no drug compares to it. I feel fucking Invincible. As of now, I am suicidal. And fuck I wish I had something to just take it all away. I don't think I'll ever achieve happiness, I'm always miserable
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Ebenezer Clillyfuck - Wed, 31 Aug 2016 18:14:31 EST ID:21BsQNKK No.28504 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Try a raw vegan diet.

Fuck that noise.
Nicholas Drupperked - Sun, 11 Dec 2016 13:32:05 EST ID:zRZnOLNm No.28742 Ignore Report Quick Reply
killing yourself will solve nothing, you'll just be born again and repeat the same mistakes because you didn't learn anything

you may not believe that but its a very real possibility just like anything else
Matilda Fosslehidge - Sun, 11 Dec 2016 22:21:29 EST ID:Qzvccu3S No.28746 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Shit, I feel you bro ...

Have you tried st. john's wort tea? it has some mood stabilizing properties like anti-depressants but more safe and natural.
it will probably need 5-7 days to feel better. but it works.
Shitting Fongerson - Wed, 18 Jan 2017 17:12:11 EST ID:QZglx7Px No.28823 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Theres a couple of things at play here. Firstly, the drugs, regardless of which ones, change your perceptions. For me it was alcohol and opiates and benzos. I had been drinking for a good 25 years and had never dealt with a single significant life issue without alcohol. Once I found opiates, well then the bets were off again. All the best parts of alcohol, no hangover and fucking awesome mood change.
The thing to remember is that the drugs alter your perceptions of reality, even for a while after you've stopped. This makes your view of reality warped and often worse.

The second thing is, life can and will suck. The same life shit will come up whether you are sober or smashed. It's our inability to deal with those situations which make us seek out options in drugs and alcohol.
What I found works is to get off myself. Simple shit to begin with. I'm walking outside sober and my mind is going a million miles an hour telling me how fucked up shit is, why i hate this person, how am I gonna deal with X, Y is gonna happen and I'm going to be fucked, etc. To get out of that loop, just look at something. A tree, the clouds, grass, a dog running around, anything at all. It sounds dumb, but it breaks that loop.
As mentioned above, meditation also does this exact same thing. It helps you quieten the thoughts, which in turn reduces the amount of time your brain spends in negative spinning. The key is to try and step out of your thoughts and observe what is going on - 'shit there goes my mind again'. Your thoughts are exactly that, just thoughts, they aren't you and you don't have to follow them.
Good luck with it all. It took me a few months to realise the extent of how warped my thinking was and it's been an ongoing challenge to keep aware of it and treat it with these types of simple tools.
Lastly, be kind to yourself. You are doing a great job in even acknowledging where you currently are, becoming aware is the first step of recovery.
Augustus Bongerstidge - Thu, 19 Jan 2017 04:17:30 EST ID:nOdhB9XI No.28828 Ignore Report Quick Reply
probably because youre an addict

Brain Fog by tony soprano - Tue, 02 Aug 2016 01:03:38 EST ID:1K7iFAHX No.28419 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Anyone experience sustained brain fog after quitting various drugs?

I quit all "drugs" 108 days ago (chronic weed usage for four years, occasional stimulant abuse, DXM a few times, few psych trips etc)
I quit nicotine cold turkey 105 days ago
I quit caffeine 50 days ago

The only thing I have done since is drink (getting properly drunk two days a week, occasional beer outside of that) which I have decided to give up two days ago.

Throughout this whole period, I have been in a perpetual state of brain fog. Difficulty concentrating, feeling like I'm watching a movie of my life, even sometimes feeling so detached / depersonalized that I almost feel high. It's terrible. I believe I'm suffering from depression as well, which may have something to do with it.

Anyway, anyone experience this / have any relatable info?
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Alice Crendleshaw - Tue, 02 Aug 2016 19:43:02 EST ID:CSvw+1MK No.28428 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Regular exercise and regular meditation are the only things I've found that made noticeable differences.
David Peblinggold - Thu, 04 Aug 2016 12:38:13 EST ID:ELQabZUX No.28436 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Damn, over three months and your still feeling burnt?

Thats not reassuring... I stopped smoking bud a few days ago (also chronic user for about 4 years) and I definitely feel this 'brain fog' you describe.

Like others have said, physical exercise as well as mental exercise (meditation, reading, anything that requires focus) is beneficial. Sports are extremely beneficial because they combine both physical exercise with mental focus, as well as possible social interaction.

I had a crazy shroom trip about a year ago that really rocked me to my core, I totally freaked out and was super paranoid. I think that may come into play here too.

Ive been meditating daily since ive stopped and it certainly has helped to make me more calm, as well as present to the world around me. I think if I keep it up as a daily practice that with time, the fog will dissipate.
David Peblinggold - Thu, 04 Aug 2016 13:28:01 EST ID:ELQabZUX No.28437 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I hate the 'inbetween' feeling of detoxing from weed. I was once fine being sober, and im comfortable being high, but transitioning from high to sober sucks. I feel more fucked up than I ever did before. I feel so empty and hollow, like everything is devoid of any existential meaning.

There doesnt even seem to be any meaning in smoking anymore. Get high again, for what? Play some video games and fall asleep, waking up with my brain even more fried? Its just killing time.

The only thing approaching sobriety has shown me that to truly enjoy the experience of life, the mind must be fully engaged in what it is you are doing. Being depressed, anxious, high, these are all mental states that detach us from reality. Being sober, lucid, focused, mindful, these are the mental states that keep us grounded and 'plugged in' to the experience of life.

Ive also found that personal relationships are a good way of 'coming back'. Having a gf or friend that makes you go out and do things is a good way of getting out of the house. Your relationship with them will also help you discover or re-discover things about yourself, what you like and dislike, what you have patience for, who you are.
Oliver Dartway - Thu, 29 Sep 2016 18:08:36 EST ID:HSOQ5R1m No.28584 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This. Green tea is amazing.
Lydia Crorringdock - Mon, 16 Jan 2017 06:39:14 EST ID:51TjI8oh No.28817 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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These are really helpful insights man. I feel exactly the way you are describing right now. Been completely sober (lots of sports + healthy food + sometimes a very low dose of caffeine before training) for about 8months and now since 2months I have been smoking daily again..

It has been two months of skipping workouts, laying on the couch, watching series, playing videogames, wallowing inside this 'brain fog'. It also has a real bad effect on my sleep quality. All because I have become too comfortable in my job and felt the need to always be baked again. It's a pity.

I think the part you wrote about 'mental states' is spot on. I never thought about it this way, but it is really all about being able to change your mental state yourself. I can attest to the fact that working out heavily (martial arts and weightlifting in my case) really helps a lot. I didn't only sweat out the toxins and found a reason to stay sober (performing better the next workout). It also built my confidence and made me more attractive. Resulting in better social interactions, a new girlfriend and landing the best job I've ever had in my life.

You are also right that social interactions are key. Other people can be windows through which you see the world differently, and you will notice that your detox-induced misanthropic view of society isn't necessarily the only 'correct' one and as you mentioned you can change your mental state to one that's more helpful to you.
I will definately look into meditation after reading your post.

I really hope you keep it up brother, as going back to where I am now is really frustrating and not as relaxing and laid back as you might imagine it. Be strong! I am rooting for you

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