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dtox by Shit Blenningsan - Mon, 05 Dec 2016 16:27:06 EST ID:eu0vN5cZ No.28730 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I have an important drug test (dipstick piss test) at the end of January (23rd or 24th). I've been completely clean for the past 2 months. Before that I was a daily weed user for years. I'm visiting some friends this weekend and I want to smoke weed with them. Knowing them it will probably be an all-out consumption fest, smoking nug, dabs, and taking edibles every waking moment for 3 days straight. Can I afford to partake with them and still beat the test with about 7 weeks of detox? I'm 26 y/o 5'11" 165 lbs. I'm in great shape and I run an average of 50 km per week.
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Alice Buzzgold - Wed, 07 Dec 2016 16:31:43 EST ID:CR/3V/zR No.28734 Ignore Report Quick Reply
you just need 3 weeks - 1 month max of detox, what the hell are you talking about?
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Graham Drummerlat - Fri, 09 Dec 2016 15:38:54 EST ID:eu0vN5cZ No.28738 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>28734

just wanted to be sure. I havent taken a piss test since before I starting smoking weed so I'm new to these things.
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Eugene Gommlefetch - Sun, 11 Dec 2016 16:25:24 EST ID:4zHjCjCT No.28743 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Do this: Fill and empty your bladder a few times and take a B-Vitamin complex before you piss for the test.

Even with 7 weeks of abstinence there is a chance that you'd screen positive if a) they test your first piss of the morning, which will have the highest-possible metabolite concentrations b) you piss for the test after metabolizing bodyfat for energy (thus releasing stored cannabinoids) which will also spike the metabolite concentrations.


THC Break by Nathaniel Sosslefeg - Tue, 08 Nov 2016 15:39:09 EST ID:/3FwFCQ5 No.28667 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey I am gonna stop smoking weed this winter. I have been smoking consistently for the past 3 years. I am going to graduate college in a year and I figure I will stop smoking for a while to clear my head. I was just looking for some tips to help stop for a while.
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Sophie Drenkinman - Tue, 29 Nov 2016 08:32:00 EST ID:/3FwFCQ5 No.28717 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>28687
Been down that road. That sweet benzo road haha. That's an addiction that sneaks up quick.
>>28707
we are in the same exact boat friend. Good luck to you.

>>28706
I have always wanted to try matcha. This will be a good reason thanks.

Just an update I just recently got all my scrapings and hit it. I felt kinda bad relapsing. But I was offered some weed and I said no. It helps that I am finically crippled atm.
I really appreciate you guys. I am gonna keep moving forward.
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Simon Fopperfetch - Tue, 29 Nov 2016 23:24:03 EST ID:XOpgJVCR No.28718 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>28717
Over 6 weeks without THC. Also a year away from getting my bachelors. Dreading winter break and how much time Ill have - gonna read a bunch and spend time with friends, at least I hope. Less worried about avoiding THC, more worried about what Ill replace it with. We all have setbacks but keep on keeping on. If I can do it you can too, I spent the last 4 years of my life not taking a break longer than 2 weeks. Be strong, jerk off, do other drugs in moderation, focus on the clearheadedness of not being high and what it allows you to do.
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Hedda Brivingfack - Wed, 30 Nov 2016 21:01:20 EST ID:lcVZhURA No.28719 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've struggled terribly at quitting weed. As a 1-2oz a month smoker for 2 years, and upto 14g a month for the 4 years before that... it's been a very hit and miss process. I didn't smoke for the month of September and then caved in due to life stress.

Currently re-quitting, except now I made the rule that I can smoke with friends. To many of you that may seem like a cheat, but for me, I am not a social smoker. I do not actually smoke much weed with other people - I must have smoked thousands of dollars of weed alone every year.

Here's my advice

Either stay active or just go to bed for the first week. Both are good tbh. I just cleared 4 consecutive days of a detox for nicotine and weed by lying in bed and having a lot of baths. It was nice. I don't feel the need to go all extreme activity, just make sure you commit to the goal of not smoking and do what you have to do to survive.

A good diet "helps", exercise "helps", *list of usual things* "helps". But the most important thing is to be able to look daily life in the eye, without thinking you'd be better off high. That's always going to be how you fold in the end. It becomes a constant fight, rather than a walk on a cold day that gets progressively warmer as your perspective evolves into "coping" without weed.

At every stage of the way, there can be problems. From day 1 to day 100. Temptation has many masks and comes along in many forms. You will miss it in good times, bad times, sad times, stressful times, sexy times, lonely times, boring times.

You gotta find new ways to pass the time. Variety is key. Physical, mental, personally fulfilling activities and entertainment. Do you.
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Martha Lightstock - Wed, 30 Nov 2016 23:02:49 EST ID:63/B5oIR No.28722 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>28717
had somewhat related dream last night. All I remember is that I got extremely high, like a first time high. It actually felt very real too. Too lucid lol. But at the same time I felt a lost of shame because I knew that I was on a break. I think I cried after that too lol. And oh man was I relieved when I woke up and realized that it was just a dream.
But yeah, relapsing happens. On my last break I took I caved in after my ""friends"" pressured me by literally saying that 'dude your tolerance should be good after like 2 weeks just smoke up with us bro'. felt guilty afterwards but i've learned since then and my will is stronger.
I'm on day 10, kinda broke just like you so I can't even buy weed, which in retrospect is good. Head still cloudy (especially at night, idk why) and I barely feel any different but I know it's still too early. Been smoking daily for way too long, I really miss being clear headed.

>>28718
well you are out of the difficult phase but yeah the cravings will be difficult to manage, especially on boring days. I always ALWAYS relapsed on days which were just "perfect" for a smoke, you know, when the weather is nice, nothing to worry about, your alone and fucking bored. These days are the real struggle.

>>28719
>Temptation has many masks and comes along in many forms. You will miss it in good times, bad times, sad times, stressful times, sexy times, lonely times, boring times.
yup. that's the real battle.

Keep going bros, we'll make it together.
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Phoebe Pidgecocke - Wed, 07 Dec 2016 11:45:05 EST ID:/3FwFCQ5 No.28733 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>28718
Thanks for the advice
I am fearful of replacing my smoking with alcohol. So far I have drank the same amount i usually do ( about 5 days a week). But i notice when i get tipsy i really wanna get high; So I need to cut back. I have been feeling better and clearheaded. It's only been a week since I relapsed. I have made a lot of progress on my music. I really appreciate all the advice you guys give. I really want t o start meditating. Anyone got some tips or books i can read?


I need some help by Polly Fembletit - Sat, 05 Nov 2016 13:42:31 EST ID:IHxB/NEF No.28660 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm sober since 9/21 and I'm just too bad and deppressive now, idk if I need to take medications...
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Charles Nicklehood - Sun, 06 Nov 2016 02:35:35 EST ID:0vamNtjj No.28661 Ignore Report Quick Reply
What was your poison brother?
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Reuben Summerbark - Mon, 07 Nov 2016 11:20:06 EST ID:O2oCWrRB No.28662 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>28660
Did you try regular exercise and/or regular meditation? If those have failed, yeah, consider seeing a professional. If you haven't tried those (REGULARLY, not just trying 3-4 timest hen giving up), then you still have options. Try and eat balanced meals, nutrition,s important...

What were you on though, and for how long? This should give an idea of how long until you start to feel ''normal'' again.
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Broken soul - Sun, 04 Dec 2016 19:33:30 EST ID:U4fPFI1J No.28728 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>28660
I believe in you brother. I was a piece of shit when I was an addict, I stole from people around me and didn't care about who I hurt in the process. I look back at my worst relapse and wonder how the fuck I ever got over the withdrawls from a month of insane benzo abuse. I was close to wasting away and honestly considered suicide. The thing that saved my ass was opening up to my family about my problem and they did what they could to support me. I'm not saying you need to walk up to your father or mother and be like "hey fam, guess what? I'm an addict" but if you open up to people close to you they will rally around you. And if they don't; they aren't real friends. I wouldn't suggest seeking professional help if you are just planning on getting some medication to feel better. If you want that then just continue abusing drugs because in either situation you aren't finding happiness from within


Heroin lab test by Cornelius Clicklewore - Tue, 22 Nov 2016 19:23:02 EST ID:q0ubsB/Z No.28708 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Does anyone know how long heroin is detectable in urin if sent to a lab? I'm aware that there are some drug screens that test for enzymes and they can last longer but I can't find out any info about just how long. Any info would be very appreciated.
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Reuben Songerbine - Sun, 04 Dec 2016 19:24:07 EST ID:QJEuIOjx No.28727 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>28708
We're gonna need a lil more info there Bob. Frequency of use, delivery method etc.


Trying to detox by Nigel Crengerstetch - Tue, 15 Nov 2016 15:06:54 EST ID:ZzAiYuAW No.28689 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Okay. Shit. Joining the Army.

So I was a frequent (Everyday user for a year and a half) user, and popped hot on a home drug test after being clean for Roughly a month and a half now. Rescheduled drug test for a month from today, and after getting drunk and the FUUUUCK IT WHY NOT factor kicked in, I smoked a SMALL amount of weed. probably a tiny roach's worth.

Does this reset the entire amount of time I've been clean, or does the ridiculous amount I smoked before still make its way out while the tiny bit I smoked last night make its way out in ten days, while presumaby the massive amounts from before make their way out as before? I have 30 days from today. If the two months I've been clean are suddenly completely reset, I have no doubt no matter how much excersising I've done, I'm FUCKED.
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Qbey - Thu, 17 Nov 2016 03:00:46 EST ID:s4i8ws5i No.28696 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>28689
Step 1: Chill. Either way, it was your decision and your life was meant to go wherever it leads. Maybe you're SUPPOSED to not be in the army u feel me

Step 2: Drink a ton of cranberry juice. That hipstery '100% organic cranberry juice" that comes in glass bottles. Yeah it's kinda expensive but drink at least 2 every day anyway. Excercise is good too, go jog in a sweatsuit. Also sex is a good full-body workout if you have that option. (& you're any good). Just sweat a lot and pee a lot and drink a fuckton of 100% cranbetty juice. Mango is good to add if you wanna mix it up, also pineapple juice. Be sure to not get that bullsit 'juice cocktail' shit that's like 15% juice from concentrate and mostly water and HFCS, which are actually counterproductive in this matter. Juice. Drink. Like as much as you can handle.

You may also want to remember to brush your teeth a bit more often as cranberry juice is pretty acidic and such
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Qbey - Thu, 17 Nov 2016 03:06:58 EST ID:s4i8ws5i No.28697 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>28689

Oh yeah also, since it's the fucking army and they have fucking crazy space technology, they may somehow detect that you've recently drank a fuckton of juice all of a sudden. If so, act a little embarassed and say you had a UTI recently. It's really not their fucking business and you should act like it; but idk it's always good to have a plausible answer that's not too complicated.
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Phyllis Sannerstodging - Thu, 17 Nov 2016 18:16:58 EST ID:ZzAiYuAW No.28701 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Still doesn't quite answer the question.

Okay, you're sober for a month and a half, pop hot on a test.

Say you smoke a bowl that night, will all that time spent sober be for naught, as if you "reset" your system, and you have to wait another month and a half?
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Edward Bodgedock - Tue, 22 Nov 2016 23:35:42 EST ID:6jl+wtYM No.28709 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It gets stored in your fat. When you burn fat it releases into your urine. Thats why flushing makes in undetected but dilution is noticeable. It stores in layers so burn off fat and flush then take a test. Nothing but burning fat is going to help you.
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Nigel Ciddleworth - Thu, 01 Dec 2016 23:01:39 EST ID:bmSs3RKg No.28724 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>28701

Not really, unless you're really counting "clean time". Clean time, at least to me, means a period of time where I dont use any mind or mood altering substances. So the answer to your question is twofold. The weed is probably out of your system in a few days if it was a one time thing, your sober time, however, has reset in my book and you should now count your clean time from the day you smoked.


No mas by Martha Gondernedge - Thu, 24 Nov 2016 13:34:54 EST ID:Ef1SE4Zn No.28710 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I had a panic attack bad enough to put me in the hospital.
I can't smoke weed anymore, without getting anxious.
I can barely drink anymore. I need to drink shit that's 5% and even then I can get too drunk because I don't want to lose control.
I feel like my life is run by medication, and I want off all of it.
I want my mind back. What the hell happened to me that I can no longer do the things I miss?
I don't know what else there is to make my mind calm. I just want some joy.
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Fanny Sopperwig - Sun, 27 Nov 2016 20:32:13 EST ID:FJN9WUtk No.28713 Ignore Report Quick Reply
hang in there brah. We care about you
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Archie Honeydock - Sun, 27 Nov 2016 21:01:15 EST ID:8U9KDYnN No.28714 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I had a similar experience. After I got off opiates, when I would smoke I'd get really anxious and get panic attacks. Now after being off shit for a while I almost feel sane again. After abstaining from everything I've been able to smoke tiny amounts without getting too anxious. I really had to ease back into that again though. I got anxious the first couple times. I still don't think I could smoke socially.
But without drugs you just have to find new hobbies. Something that is fulfilling or even just good at occupying your mind. That's helped me a lot.
2 things that I've gotten back into are video games, and exercise. Though for a while after getting off opi's, I couldn't really play video games because I felt like I couldn't get into the right mindset without being high. It's a lot different now though, having been off for about a year. Exercise has helped me a lot too, I used to be very athletic back in the day but that all kinda went by the wayside when I got hard into drugs, and it feels good to get back to it. That's just my experience, and forgive me if it's kinda all over the place, I got some caffeine in me. Hope that can help.
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Frederick Chillerhall - Mon, 28 Nov 2016 21:55:18 EST ID:AlPwHZ9N No.28715 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>28710

Off the drugs and back to soberness

Learn meditation

Exercise

Be with yourself without drugs

Listen to this:http://www.audiodharma.org/talks/audio_player/2813.html


Follicle test by Graham Bluvingwark - Fri, 04 Nov 2016 18:30:52 EST ID:9uq6ijeU No.28658 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey fools, I know this is the place for addiction troubles and stuff but does anyone know of a good brand of shampoo for hair detox? I have a test coming up in a few days and I'm not sure what works and what doesn't. Please help!
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Eliza Fanhood - Wed, 16 Nov 2016 21:33:19 EST ID:LKQzB6Ue No.28695 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Just shave your head off and say you went neo-nazi
They can't reject you based on political views or you can sue them
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Charles Suzzlebadge - Thu, 17 Nov 2016 17:46:09 EST ID:W1Yx3R8G No.28700 Ignore Report Quick Reply
People on this board have real problems, IE /stims/ /opi/ and /benz/

Shave your head and get a swastika tattoo.

Nb
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Fanny Pashlitch - Sun, 20 Nov 2016 02:48:51 EST ID:DtAYNBPm No.28703 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>28695
lmao


drug test by Phineas Gommermat - Sat, 19 Nov 2016 23:36:17 EST ID:VUB7Ctxv No.28702 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I started getting my adderall script from a psychiatrist because my family doctor doesn't take my insurance anymore. On my first visit he said he would be drug testing me the next time I saw him. But when I saw him last time he didn't drug test me. When I asked the people at the front desk if maybe he forgot they said they normally don't test and that even if I did it would be at the pharmacy. So am I good to smoke weed? Or should I still be worried of a random test?


Rules for my relapse by Steven Johnson - Tue, 25 Oct 2016 21:36:01 EST ID:XfzozzUp No.28643 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hello esteemed faggots,

2 years ago I had a psychotic episode where i attacked my parents and hospital workers. It was hands down the worst thing that has ever happened to me. Following that, I had 18 months totally clean. I got my shit back together and went back to school. Im in my senior year now and having a lot of trouble keeping my grades up. I have decided to strategically relapse. I will be ordering a stimulant so that I can maintain my grades. That stimulant is isopropylphenidate. I know that this will lead to me using other drugs, so I have written some rules to avoid another psychotic episode. To be clear, if something like my last episode happens again, I will kill myself. At the time of my last episode, I was abusing a laundry list of designers drugs including psychs, dissociatives, cannabinoids, straight fentanyl, heroin, and lots of other shit i cant remember now.

To be clear, I have already started drinking and smoking weed again. Below are the rules that I drew up for myself. Comment and criticism would be appreciated. Also, can someone recommend a better functional stimulant?



When you get the isopropylphenidate, all you have to do it start studying for half an hour every day, but take the isopropylphenidate before you start. It should be easy to keep studying at that point. Eat first. And search for a better functional stimulant. The first time per day that you take it, you must study for at least two hours afterwards (on weekdays). You can only take it more than twice a day if you are doing it with another person, or are doing it while you are out with other people.

If you egregiously violate these rules, you go back to drinking coffee and adrafinil as your only stimulants. Do well with isopropylphenidate and you can move on to better stimulants.

Make an IC appointment in NYC. Ask for a low dose to see if it helps with your mental health.

Do not get benzos. Drink beer if you need to chill, or maybe a methaqualone derivative. No sedatives daily besides what is prescribed.
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Isabella Fubblestig - Tue, 01 Nov 2016 21:49:54 EST ID:+oDZ+Li/ No.28652 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>28643
start by changing your belief that you need a stimulant to keep your grades up
it's all in your head
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Lillian Miblingmudging - Wed, 16 Nov 2016 01:18:42 EST ID:LKQzB6Ue No.28691 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Didn't you post this on /stim/ before?

Im not sure about the iso thing that you are going to order, but dexedrine is a pretty good stim... Im sure you knew that already. Or adderall of course. But since you're trying to stay as clean as possible, dexedrine does feel a bit less "junkie" without all the levo's inside it that adderall contains.

Also, energy drinks like redbull or monster (if you can stand the sweetness) I find helps me better in school studies compared to caffeine. More focus, longer duration and less burnout. But thats just my body chemistry and everyones different etc..
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Qbey - Thu, 17 Nov 2016 03:14:45 EST ID:s4i8ws5i No.28698 Ignore Report Quick Reply
a. When you try a new stimulant, you must be otherwise sober and in a calm state of mind, prior to studying.
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Qbey - Thu, 17 Nov 2016 03:19:33 EST ID:s4i8ws5i No.28699 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also, for chilling, why not substitute beer for a chamomile milk tea sometmes?
Particularly in the earlier hours where getting hammered isn't really a suitable alternative to being stimmed?
Milk does tend to make drugs not work and all.


No control by Eliza Perringture - Sun, 17 Jul 2016 16:17:49 EST ID:0GlPoMwZ No.28361 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I dont think im in way deep but im definitely down a hole and have been for the past few months. Drunk half of the time, stoned most of the time, picked up q cigarette habit and I kind of scared/excited myself a
Few weeks ago, got numbers to some guys who sell benzos. Fortunately one guy had his phone off and the other was busy. I keep looking at ways to get benzos online since I severed contact woth dealers selling benzos.
Ive never taken anything but cannabis and alcohol before but benzos sound so good for just taking youself out of everything. Im torn and I need to stop. Im so shit, I mercilessly steal weed from my best friend who is the nicest guy on earth ane he caught me today and a part of me cares but anoyher part of me just doesnt give a fuck. This is probably a sigb I need to detox but I dont know how. I feel likenim heading slowly for death and I dont care as muh as I should.
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Eliza Gubbermare - Sun, 28 Aug 2016 21:47:12 EST ID:CvRmgg8s No.28492 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>28457
>>28455
>>28454
It doesn't really sound so much like tripfriend got triggered so much as he explained the concept of addiction in non-spiritual terms. I've never found fault in religion that pushes self-improvement, but never found myself to need or want it. I like the tough love that comes from reality's solutions to problems. While we may be spiritual beings on a level above the physical, that meta-physicality doesn't really affect me on any tangible level in my life, so relying on it to solve problems seems counterproductive. I can't honestly say that anything in my life has happened due to supernatural influence. It's all been the choices made by myself and those around me. It's a tough pill to swallow, but I find it gives me clarity and a base in the shit-ass reality we all inhabit.

Many people I think will benefit from defining life's problems in metaphysical terms. Many devout Christians I know are outstanding, honest people. But many aren't. For me personally, no external force of culture or religion has the ability to know me in the way my own mind knows me. With this in mind, my fuckups are the fault of my brain, and therefore the fault of me as a person. I'm craving comfort, I'm craving weed and booze, I'm craving sitting home all day because it's easier on my mind and body. This is happening to me because I made personal choices to alter my brain chemistry. And it's only going to be a personal choice that will break me from of it.

tl;dr- mad respect for Dindu and his ability to use something beyond the physical to improve his life, but many people won't be able to adopt that mindset. For some, myself included, it just takes a very hard self-motivated push in the right direction to set a precedent for healthy behavior. I've been too comfortable, too long, and it's my fault. Knowing that I think is the first step to fixing it.
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Dindu Nutthinwrongus - Fri, 04 Nov 2016 08:48:53 EST ID:qjfS/O+l No.28656 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>28492
Mad respect back to you man. We all need to know how some things work for us.

Funny enough, I may have been too much out on the meta-side of things lately, and as I go back and find these threads I cannot concur more to what you said right there. Everything in moderation. It's hard to let go because of the fear. It's always the fear, I guess. But in priciple, it's possible. It does takes time and work.

We need to fuck up. It's our job to make some mistakes to know what works out for us. Said positively, of course.

All I want to share to all you guys is this: We need to go deep. Deeper than we ever imagined, because to me, the more I just use my brain the more the chances are I forget to feel 'my heart' - or, feel just how I really feel deep inside, instead of compelling myself to try 'fixing' with logic, the mind, or whatever this neural ego world make me do. Conciousness is our final frontier, because what we think is real gets real.

Think clearly, not deep. Feel the deepest part of yourself you are able to once in a while, when set and setting is in tune.

The cosmic flows of nature are everywhere. It's all up to us to place ourselves in it here and there. The Ego cannot really love, so the more I pratice this 'meditation' the more of myself I realize, because everything else up to these moments simply feels like shuffling the cards. Whatever pops up is not up to me, I just have to let the flow of everything play itself out.

Make no mistake, "the game" really just is a Ego world ping-pong game we need to play, but the scary part of meditation is you realize this game isn't real. How terrifyingly real the game is, so we choose to return to the illusion, just because the conditioning of our fear is so strong.
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Edwin Warryfuck - Fri, 04 Nov 2016 12:43:50 EST ID:9rN7+F7w No.28657 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hey man

I smoked weed for 10 years, from 15 to 25, regularly.
Even sold weed when I was a kid, around 14-15.
So its been part of my life for a long time.
Same thing with amphetamines which I took from year 18 to around 24, daily for years too.

I started a sober year, OFF weed from October 20 - 2015 to October 20 - 2016.
To celebrate it, the fact that I didnt smoke weed for 1 year, I gave myself almost 2 weeks of Weed fury.

I smoked all day every day from the 20th to the 31th.
And now I have to be sober again.


Its hard, just like before.
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Hugh Nommerture - Fri, 11 Nov 2016 13:11:00 EST ID:D6Pkji5b No.28680 Ignore Report Quick Reply
what i find hardest about quitting drugs in general is the lack of fun and the feelings of desperation as you try to tolerate the boredom that comes with being sober after doing everything high for so long. i can handle physical withdrawals and the anxiety and everything else that comes with kicking an addiction, the feeling of meaninglessness and indifference to anything and everything is what gets to me the most i think. trying to do hobbies you once found enjoyable sober but now you have no connection to them, that's so painful, but i keep doing stuff sober anyway because i need to in order to get those feelings of passion back, and i really try to get into the mode of fighting the anhedonia.

the brain always has too much fun doing things on a drug, any drug, and does it ever fucking hate having to engage in things in a sober state of mind thereafter. it's always whispering " this isn't fun, this WOULD be fun high though".

i fucking hate my brain it's my enemy most days. i don't consider it "me" and one way to get back at it is to continue defying it's wishes by becoming sober and doing things even when it doesn't want to, or restricting actions it doesn't want to do by becoming irrational about it; let me explain what this means.
if my brain isn't sending the message to my body that i'm hungry because it's hungry for a drug instead of food i'll quit eating until i start really getting malnourished and guess what happens? the brain eventually loses the duel and starts sending the "i'm hungry eat some food" message back to the body, one victory won over the brain there. if my brain quits sending the sleep signal because it's wanting a sedative all the time to lull it asleep i'll purposefully deprive myself of sleep and not even try to catch a second of rest and the same thing happens. the weak brain eventually can't handle no sleep and relents, sending the signal "go get some rest, or it'll be forced upon you" . Not sure if this approach would work for everyone but it's something i think should be considered rather than letting your brain torture you, take control of what it's doing to…
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Dindu Nutthinwrongus - Wed, 16 Nov 2016 01:57:22 EST ID:qjfS/O+l No.28692 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>28680
You are spot on about the "no go" mentality you need to get through the healing process. AND how the medical community mostly is a culture of addicts not having the resources to realize they need to stay clean in order to fix their brain dominance. Well put anon.

Embracing the process, not giving in to the fear is the hardest part for most people, but a strong will isn't always enough to deal with the pain too, depending on the drug. You may feel like dying, and that is not what you want. Faith and loving, caring people near you is a major fact, too.

The medicinal industry is happy to inform you that another product of theirs can "help you". As motherfucking if. If the physical withdrawals may be life threatening, because the drug you took is that fucking dangerous, you might considering cutting down slowly, of course. But switching over to another drug is just craycray, if you ask me.

Funny how you "hate your brain". For me that sounds like you really are familiar with 'your heart', or atleast can take refuge in your body. The more I meditate the more I get the feeling that my conciousness is in my whole body, not just my brain, and that 'my heart' thinks too, or, even better yet, feels.

Love heals all, friend. Take care. Peace.


Nothing in this world makes me sadder than the feeling I have the day after drinking liquor by Sophie Barddock - Sun, 13 Nov 2016 03:11:05 EST ID:yC07W3wD No.28685 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I dont know its chemical or emotional. Like maybe a serotonin thing. I wont be doing again anytime soon, its sucked, and I feel as I had been out all night committing warcrimes. Just the guilt and the sadness. Absurd I still fuck with it sometimes. I think there is a litlle demon in each every bottle of spirits.


Mirtazapine (Remeron) is a fucking miracle drug by Fanny Cloffingfuck - Sun, 18 Sep 2016 13:57:19 EST ID:Dswgp8IR No.28560 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I just got out of rehab. I had a dual addiction, benzos and opiates. The addiction psychiatrist at this rehab knew his shit, and prescribed me Remeron, gabapentin, and tenex for withdrawal.

What a miracle Remeron is. I came off a daily 16mg Suboxone/5yr, and 4-6mg Xanax/3yr habit cold turkey, and I had VERY minor withdrawal symptoms, almost non-existent even. The benzo withdrawal was the hardest part, but Remeron let me sleep, which is fucking crazy.

Anyone else have positive Remeron stories? I'm still taking 60mg/night. It's helped with sleep, depression, and even anxiety.
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Phoebe Blamblehene - Tue, 08 Nov 2016 01:27:26 EST ID:XmQQqreQ No.28665 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>28560
I'm glad it's working for you man. I took it for a year about 7 years ago and it was the only thing keeping me remotely stable. Simply having the option of taking something every day that numbs the constant shitty feelings and helping you get some semblence of sleep does wonders.

Personally, it made me really fucking tired in the mornings and turned me into a bit of a zombie so I had to quit eventually, but it was definitely a bridge to sobriety.

Whatever you do DO NOT fucking think it's an excuse to start doing more drugs. None of that "Oh, well I feel more stable now with this shit, now I can get back at it."
It's a retarded road to head down and a clear sign of denial

Best of luck
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David Dosslestetch - Tue, 08 Nov 2016 12:07:27 EST ID:2BGyI4Ve No.28666 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's shit in my case. Took it for sleep many years ago and basically all it did was give me the munchies and made me feel groggy, not in a good way but not totally a bad way either, and I was bent the next morning too. So basically it did nothing for me.
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Eliza Billingspear - Tue, 08 Nov 2016 21:39:28 EST ID:W1Yx3R8G No.28668 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Figured I'd bump your thread. I just got out of rehab today after 10 days.... just left.

Kicking 95% opiates and 5% benzos

I'm personally weening myself off of the small seroquel (50-100mg/night for sleep)

Taking Naltrexone pills every day, and a nice hit from the giant Vivitrol needle next week.

Feels good to be sober man.
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Caroline Genningdale - Fri, 11 Nov 2016 19:00:47 EST ID:VoixMJbs No.28681 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Mirtazapine really helped me when I quit alcohol. I actually slept, I felt relatively alright and had only very few withdrawal symptoms.
It's important to take JUST enough though, take too much and you'll be groggy for the entire next day. I'm talking legs that feel like they're made of lead and a general fuzzy brain.
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Sophie Barddock - Sun, 13 Nov 2016 03:05:41 EST ID:yC07W3wD No.28684 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Maybe I will reconsider it merits at some point. For the brief period that I was on it though I felt so disphoric, and had one of the worst dreams I have ever had in my life. Its a pretty strange bird of a drug, a tetracylic. I was heavily prescribed trycilics in the dark ages of the 80's, and tough love, and other pr8imitive barbarism. Stuff really "overheated my body", and I think it inhibited healthy growth of my glandular systems, and reproductive systems because I was going through puberty. Thats neither hear nor there though :/


Sorry for crazy riff there because I may really need something like Remeron for reasons similar to you describe. I was only on it a very short while so I might give it another chance.


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