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average lifespan for addict person by Walter Buzzfield - Thu, 09 Feb 2017 13:49:59 EST ID:eJsronbx No.28902 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So, I'm just wandering for some realistic statistics on drug addicts life expectancy. Different sorts of drugs and severety of addictions are interesting.
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Oliver Billingridge - Mon, 27 Feb 2017 17:43:35 EST ID:clkkIQvm No.28978 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> I smoke two packs a day

you dont need me to tell you thats bad. def quit maybe chew gum for that restless energy
Phyllis Babblewater - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 19:32:23 EST ID:Hve4sWxo No.29021 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>smoking is a fairly sure, fairly honorable form of suicide.

I've been saying that for years
Nicholas Croblingwidging - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 06:07:09 EST ID:KZ1TM0Dd No.29028 Ignore Report Quick Reply
pall mallls were the best. I basically quit. Too much of a hassle. It takes away ones true good presonality. Have seen many of people die from smoking. Coughing up blood. On oxugen all the time. COPD is a guaranteed short life after smoking
for years. I beleive I have smoked maybe 5 cigs this year. A pack a day, was never really an option, but had done it though. Yea, it's an industry of eventual death for many.
Nicholas Croblingwidging - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 06:11:14 EST ID:KZ1TM0Dd No.29029 Ignore Report Quick Reply
smoking is useless, one can go for a long walk short what, exercise and the cravings should disappear.
Sidney Doddlespear - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 22:14:40 EST ID:G2iYEKXR No.29074 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This. I find smoking is great when you are doing it but never before or after

How long to be sure? by Edward Dollylen - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 05:23:57 EST ID:2xwpOxwg No.29065 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm 29 years old and I smoke/vape weed every day. I used it to alleviate my social anxiety, but I have to get clean later this year. I'll be applying for dental hygiene school and all of my eggs are in this basket.

I weight about 187 pounds, going from smoking some fairly decent shit near daily for several consecutive years to cold turkey no weed, what the longest it could possibly take me to no-margin-of-error pass a weed drug test?
Nicholas Pablingsudging - Wed, 22 Mar 2017 19:20:25 EST ID:4gyE4GE1 No.29072 Ignore Report Quick Reply
One month is normal, but for some people it can be up to three months (I hear). If you take detox steps I think a month should be OK.

Does shaking ever stop? by Phyllis Worthingshit - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 15:46:08 EST ID:AyYZtc6y No.29040 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I used to drink liquor heavily for 3 years before going to rehab. Now im going 3 months sober, but my still shake. Have I given myself these for life? Another alcoholic said they never go away. I cant find any other info on the prognosis online.

I tried taking beta blockers too, but my hand still shakes when working with tools.

Hamilton Blubblenack - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 22:05:56 EST ID:XCl6Sc9E No.29043 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Some doctors say it can last. Could try a reset button and drink again. Not a great idea. In all these may stop, try using your habds in different ways. Umm, I think
a benozo like clonazapam would work after a reset, then a few weeks of clonazapam would fix this. May sound waay off but 3 months is a long time to shake. Benzos taken for a short while may quiet down what is causing the shakes. Shaking and trying to accomplish what would be basically easy
tasks sucks.

I doubt these would last for life, otherwise a good part of the population would be noticably shaky.
Sidney Hurringstit - Sat, 18 Mar 2017 14:45:37 EST ID:4gyE4GE1 No.29047 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I have the shakes from a psychiatric med called Aripiprazole and they're permanent. My doctor prescribes propranolol and benadryl, which helps a little bit but not entirely. No idea if they would help you.

light smoking by Ian Fiblingmock - Fri, 17 Mar 2017 11:57:12 EST ID:QcH7zhfG No.29039 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey /detox/. I smoke every day, but only in one-hitter sized amounts per session. As such, I go through about a gram a week, except last week, in which I went through an eighth because it was spring break.

Given this, and the fact that I've been on the gram-a-week-in-small-amounts-each-day schedule for roughly a year, how long would I have to quit in order to pass a urine test?

Benz by Sidney Hissletack - Wed, 15 Mar 2017 21:27:13 EST ID:0QIDnQQp No.29031 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I started to take kpins prescribed .5 x2 a day since the start of December 2016. I have abused these heavily and made an excuse once I lost my pills to get a new script cause I binged. I currently can't get another 30 .5 until march 3rd that its if I don't get denied.

I've taken roughly 200 .5 pills since Dec and I have never experienced benzos prior Because I ran out of my script early and I was worried about withdrawal I've been taking etizolam. I've been relatively safe. I want off this boat but I'll already ingest around 150mg of etizolam over the last couple weeks. I can't afford to keep this up anymore and I need some advice on what to do. I'd rather not get hospital assistance. I understand the effects of cold turkey and will NOT being doing so.

Diluting a UA. by Emma Wendlespear - Tue, 14 Mar 2017 12:46:45 EST ID:fLKxAL0p No.29025 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey there /detox/. I got a surprise callback from a job application that was a total moonshot. Problem is I hadn't heard anything for two weeks and I smoked about 2 bowls over the course of 4 days about 4 days ago, after not smoking for several months. Now they want me to come back to take a drug test tomorrow.

I know I'm fucked if I don't screw with the drug test. Is it possible to dilute my urine by drinking a lot of water, but increase my creatinine levels by taking creatine? I really feel like a retard for putting myself in this situation so feel free to call me dumb. What do you think guys, can I make it?
Graham Shittingdale - Tue, 14 Mar 2017 12:52:25 EST ID:w2GHCRa7 No.29026 Ignore Report Quick Reply

literally just did this a week ago.

pre-employment drug screens dont watch you go.

First you need clean pee from someone, if you cant get clean pee from anyone you know then good luck.

If you can get clean pee, go to your local gas station and buy one of those big 5 hour energy bottles and take the label off, pour it out, and rinse it out real good.

Put the clean pee in it, wear tight as FUCK briefs, but bottle under your ballsack for a good hour right up until the test.

Pour clean pee into UA cup, voila. just make sure the pee has reached your body temp, hence being under your balls for so long. needs to be warm

Court-ordered Rehab by Nathaniel Borrytig - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 18:45:22 EST ID:4gyE4GE1 No.28913 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So, long story short, I have to "voluntarily" go to through a lame rehab program in lieu of jail time because I overdosed on psychedelic amphetamines and got caught with them (stupid, I know - heroic does of DOI.)

So far it's basically just kindergarten style group sharing with a bunch of God-loving fundamentalists who tell me to accept Jesus and put God into my life and everything will be OK. Pretty fucking lame for something that's supposed to be a "safe space" for all religious beliefs (I'm agnostic and don't particularly care about religion. I don't care for bible thumping, however).

Even my therapist asked me how I felt my rehab was important in a "spiritual context."

How do I avoid killing myself dealing with all these religious nuts and completing my six months of bullshit? It sure beats jail time. Oh, and I'm randomly tested (urine and blood). So far the therapists have no chill.

I'm not denying that I couldn't use help, after all, I'm doing stupid things like heroic dosing on DOI. However, taking away the burnt offering of cannabis alongside it has really ticked me off. How do I enjoy being sober again? Everything just seems boring or like work.

I guess mostly I just wanted a "safe space" to vent - and feel like this place is safer than the groups I participate in because of the omnipresent fundie Christian mafia.
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Sidney Sockledod - Sun, 05 Mar 2017 17:37:26 EST ID:4gyE4GE1 No.28999 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I think I'll make my choice after I finish the program and things blow over a bit. For now, putting efforts into hobbies ( music and gardening ) seems to be the only choice but depression also sucks the joy out of them, too. I've been told it's just something I have to work through.

Thanks for posting, man.
Shitting Dangerson - Sat, 11 Mar 2017 20:48:25 EST ID:fvI/Wp6O No.29016 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hey bro, heavy drug user currently on a break for lent, I suggest you give God a shot. He's not an actual bearded sky wizard, he's the entire noosphere, the human experience aggregate, the fucking universe. The sky wizard thing was just a feudal interpretation of him, a way to appeal to/oppress the normies of that day. Would you hear me out if I then went on to say the Vatican is Satanic and corrupt?

Most people have a hard time selling God, and it's always because they can't separate scripture from faith, or they let their own egos/ignorance/imperfect beliefs murk their conversion attempt.

It's completely true when I say that if you actually try and seek God out, like just unironically open up to the entire possibility, that your life WILL then end up totally fine. Following God, in the way he's to be followed, is a tremendously righteous feeling.

OP I suggest you just bullshit the therapy, go high every time and just do your thing, but at the same time give a serious attempt to connect yourself to God considering you're halfway there already.

Mushrooms tightened my relationship with God, and holy fuck was that a blessing. My life is terrific now, and I want you to be happy like me!
David Chebberstock - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 00:25:16 EST ID:4gyE4GE1 No.29017 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I don't believe in superstition. If you took the Spinozan approach and said God was the natural universe, maybe I would concede that belief could be tolerated, but superstitious beliefs are irrational and inevitably lead to bad decisions.

That being said, I respect your right to have your own belief system. I don't think I completely understand your belief system but I do remember having very profound experiences that a different person might have characterized as "spiritual" on shrooms and many psychedelics.

As I said in previous threads, they test my urine basically once a week so going high would be difficult.

Thanks for the thoughts and well-wishing all the same.
Shitting Cushnedging - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 03:45:59 EST ID:/mj6fgZv No.29018 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There is no reason to fail, accept it. If one keep quiet about religion, Christianity, say you have been saved, maybe? Keep quiet and fully minimal, many christians are quiet, soft-spoken people. Just keep a low profile. The whatever counselors should
see this as your general personality. old post,
David Dronnerchore - Sun, 12 Mar 2017 13:16:42 EST ID:XScBMwJY No.29019 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Are you sure you're not in aa, that's some cognitive dissonance there my bro

God = god

The origin story don't change the result no matter what you tell yourself

Life after drinking by vodka - Fri, 03 Mar 2017 01:51:53 EST ID:03hlSnZt No.28991 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I have not drank for 9 months as of the start of March. I quit smoking weed about 2 yrs ago. I still smoke cigs.

I thought my outlook on life would improve, but it really hasn't. Too be honest I'm more miserable even though I'm about to graduate college. Does it just take time or should I say fuck it and go back to drinking myself into oblivion and listening to metal every night?
Angus Saddlebanks - Sun, 05 Mar 2017 23:02:25 EST ID:t05WwKIw No.29000 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Dude 69 those two and do that
Don't go back to drinking, drinking is the fucking worst.
I've been off drinking for almost a year now, but I picked up weed smoking in its place and it's so much better.
I can have an escape from the shitty bullshit of life but I don't want to drink anymore.
Not to mention I feel better mentally and physically since switching from liquor to weed, no more hangovers and not waking up with that fucking taste in your mouth. You know the taste I'm talking about, worst thing about being a drunk for me honestly.

Either way, good luck with whatever you decide, but I know from my experience I don't think I would ever go back to the liquor when I can just smoke some weed instead. You're doing great man, 9 months is a big deal; it's really hard dealing with the reasons for drinking but you'll learn to cope.
Charlotte Drindlehall - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 02:53:32 EST ID:Qca3ZMGK No.29006 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I do know, smoking makes life seem like basic crap for me. If say I don't smoke a cig for a month, then smoke, it instantly makes life far less enjoyable, motivation disappears,, environmental stimulation, deduction to today and the next day

Smoke first thing in the morning all my motivation and plans change immediately. Try to quit.

I need help. by Hedda Wozzlekin - Thu, 16 Feb 2017 06:55:56 EST ID:4Pn5C6CL No.28908 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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But I don't know where to turn, or who to ask. I was reently informed my therapist "could no longer see me" because my health insurance (lol) does not cover it,

Anyway, I've tried weaning myself off the Benzos using a multi-vitamin every moring as well as Nascent Iodine.

I can go a few days without using, but eventually I'm pulled back in. And I may get shir for ordering pellets, but this is /detox/. I did order powder before but had no scale so I blacked out for literally 2 weeks with small period of lucidity.

I counted the bottles (not all of which are empty), that's 17*$90 which is $1,530, plus there's a few bottles not pictured which I tossed, but I wanted to keep a record of what I was talking and how much, and how much it cost me.

I don't have $1530 to fuck around with especially when my job is utter shit, I have a girl I want to marry (she doesn't know of my addiction, if she sees me taking them, I lie and say they are vitamins).

I also struggle with drinking, and obviously alcohol and benzos don't go well together. I have gotten a better hold on the drinking, so that's almost a none issue.

But still, I know I fucked up. I just once wanted to try Etizolam, and then was hooked, so I tried every other RC Benzo out there (since I do suffer from Social and Generalized Anxiety as well as Paranoid Personality Disorder). But my doctors wont prescribe me anything but SSRIs (hell no) or Gabapentin (okay, but my insurance won't pay, so if I were to go that route, it'd cost me 200+ dollars for a drug that *barely* works for anxiety).

I want to tell my gf and my parents about my addiction and go to a rehab clinic but the only one in my area is ghetto as hell (went there for a few AA meetings), it's literally a house full of addicts (not judging) who trash the place, treat each other like shit, etc.
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Ernest Criddlecocke - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 09:28:46 EST ID:4m5DY39V No.28939 Ignore Report Quick Reply
A few years ago I was put in a hospital for my drug addiction and the fact that I had a nervous breakdown. I was ready to just "let go" and say fuck this. Glad I didn't or I don't know where'd I be. But, Shepard Pratt was the worst experience of my life. It didn't even help me to put me somewhere isolated from the outside world for a few days. I got nothing out of it besides being put on more medication. I promised myself I'd never go back. It's been five years and I feel better than ever. In the end I helped myself get to where I am. IMO psychology is bullshit. It doesn't work. I've been down this road many times in the past 11 years and I never got anything out of it and I did try. Just didn't work for me.

If you can help yourself in any way then do it.

As for your girl; if she isn't understanding about the situation you're in then she's not even worth keeping around. She's worthless.
Shitting Fandlebanks - Thu, 02 Mar 2017 19:33:49 EST ID:AXVKeHO7 No.28990 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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i stopped ordering Etizolam due to it having too short of a half-life (or full-life?). I strictly now order Flub and Clon, as I can take a smaller dose and have it last almost the whole day.

I mainly take them because I hate my life. My job is pure shit and they are the only thing that gets me through the day. At this point if I were to stop, I'd probably end up losing my job, my apartment, my girl, everything. Or I'd die.

I'm not advocating you start to order Flub, though. I also didn't really feel anything much at all with Nifixopam, so I stopped ordering that. I just tried it once or twice.

Actually, no matter, just checked, the vendor stopped selling Flub. I meant to say now what I take is Diclazepam and Clonazolam. On the weekends I try to lay off them, to help with tolerance, and I can already feel the thoughts and paranoia creeping back in. I usually take a Benadryl to help, and I did use to take Seroquel but my rX ran out, and my insurance is no more, so I can't even go see a doctor if I wanted to.

But I also don't suggest using Seroquel, it's a chemical lobotomy. But so are benzos in a sense.

>As for your girl; if she isn't understanding about the situation you're in then she's not even worth keeping around. She's worthless.

Well she would try to understand and try to help as much she could. But the thing is, without benzos I get really anxious, frustrated, even angry (which is just a manifestation of the anxiety and frustration), so I'd probably end up getting mad over something mundane she would say or do, or end up hurting her in a way that she would leave me, not vice versa.
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Mushroom-Madness - Sat, 04 Mar 2017 03:37:17 EST ID:RFgYlv9B No.28996 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Op why don't you just taper off of them. Tell your gf and have her in charge of your pills.
Cedric Disslestirk - Mon, 06 Mar 2017 15:48:37 EST ID:5+Wy/d8w No.29004 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeah can't you just slowly start taking less and less of this stuff? I'm no expert sorry if I'm being ignorant ... but maybe that would work?
Charlotte Drindlehall - Tue, 07 Mar 2017 02:39:51 EST ID:Qca3ZMGK No.29005 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ehh, you can get legal representation. Just mention is in court. As well say you want to represent yourself. The slight issues you may have, along with these would n0 doubt make this case very very challenging, realistically in a good way.

As well, if you had checked yourself into in patient mental health at any random time, even when you have a set court date. This would be very confusing for the prosecution, the Judge, quite unique.

I am not a lawyer but if the court is taxed, possibly burdened with ccommodating the defendant by rule of law then it could possibly have everything just dropped.

A real attorney who knows things that makes the court work a bit differently
is a good ally. Surely there is legal assistance to those with issues who have been in inpatient care.

Good luck regardless.

Sneaking in Pee to Drug Test by Walter Blackfuck - Mon, 27 Feb 2017 15:04:35 EST ID:ewloAfBg No.28975 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey guys, so I have a drug test for a job coming up soon. I will not pass due to cannabis, however I have a friend who doesn't smoke who has agreed to give me his piss. I am not worried about his urine not passing, but I am worried about how I should sneak it in/keep it warm ( I am a guy ).

I know I need it to be warm at the moment of testing. How would I do this? Wrapping it up in a heating pad and putting on my gooch? would just sticking it on my gooch work? What would be the best container for it? The standard sample size needed here is 2 medium sized vials, more than one condom would accommodate imo.

How have you guys done it in the past?
William Blillershaw - Mon, 27 Feb 2017 16:40:03 EST ID:4gyE4GE1 No.28976 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Testing where I am gets around this by simply forcing some poor schmuck to watch you piss.

Good luck.

Nathaniel Sonkinlork - Wed, 01 Mar 2017 20:01:39 EST ID:qq2qMp8r No.28988 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Keeping in Gooch worked six different times for me until my counselor got suspicious and finally had me watched (two way mirror but nobody was ever monitoring people testing because they were always too busy) one time and I got a "non-compliant/tampered" result. But otherwise just keeping my sample tucked between my sack and my leg produced an acceptable temperature. They always used an infrared digital thermometer and it would usually read between 85-93 degrees Fahrenheit and never get a second glance. When using my actual urine, that was pretty much the same temperature variance depending on how long it took an assistant to take the reading.

Drug testing job by Phoebe Snodfoot - Sat, 18 Feb 2017 05:24:49 EST ID:fNOVwQXI No.28921 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Has anybody ever tried this? Are they all scams?
Phineas Nuzzlebudging - Tue, 28 Feb 2017 10:38:59 EST ID:fK3rkcf1 No.28981 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Bumping this, also looking to detox for a piss test. Can anyone recommend a tried and true formula or product or anything?

This shit don't make no fucking sense by Augustus Dullygold - Fri, 17 Feb 2017 15:04:36 EST ID:bPqtuACa No.28920 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I've been trying to clear my pee of THC. I tested myself on Wednesday and Friday of last week, and the results were negative for THC. I tested myself on Monday of this week, and again, I tested negative. Then, I tested myself on Wednesday this week and I came up positive for THC. I tested myself today, and once again I was positive for THC. I have not smoked at all, or even been around weed smoke between Monday and Wednesday this week, but somehow I ended up testing positive TWICE. HOW THE FUCK IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE? I need to be positive by Monday or I will be fucked. WHAT DO I DO? WHAT IS HAPPENING?
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Eugene Smallwill - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 00:55:46 EST ID:WFDve2C3 No.28936 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Probably. If you can get yourself some fake pee. If your not a fat ass though you can probably swing it without fake pee
Wesley Navingbanks - Tue, 21 Feb 2017 16:30:16 EST ID:Q432+iac No.28940 Ignore Report Quick Reply
UPDATE: Monday's drug test was negative, albeit highly diluted. My pee was crystal clear. I drank over a gallon of water before the urine test.
Angus Denkinman - Fri, 24 Feb 2017 19:19:02 EST ID:UT/EhF4/ No.28963 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Proud of you son.
Hamilton Blackwell - Fri, 24 Feb 2017 19:25:48 EST ID:NHQihj2w No.28964 Ignore Report Quick Reply
If this is for probation, ask for a lab test that shows levels of THC (if they don't already). That way, if you do piss positive, you'll be able to show that THC levels are at least going down, proving you haven't used.
Esther Drabbermock - Mon, 27 Feb 2017 21:45:33 EST ID:Q432+iac No.28979 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not a legal thing. It's for a research study.

UPDATE: I have one final piss test tomorrow. I passed a urine test yesterday so I'm hoping all will go well for tomorrow.

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