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Dam/disso's in general creating sentiment value by Thomas Crunnertere - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 14:39:50 EST ID:F6Mk86js No.354807 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So this is a weird one I've been noticing for a little bit now, and I wanted to know if it's just me or if it's something everyone experiences.
Video games and music I listened to all the time when I was tripping hardcore have become a part of me, in a way. They all have some major sentimental value and have a special place in my heart. Even if they aren't the absolute best thing ever, I have some major love for whatever it is.
I've been off fun for 6 months now after being a year and a half everyday or night tripper, and I still feel this way. Assassin's Creed Rogue is still one of my favourite games ever simply because I played the fuck out of it while tripping. Skyrim for PS3 was one of the glitchiest games with the absolute worst frame rates I've ever played, and even after replacing it with the HE rerelease, I still love it for the same reason. All the playlists and albums that I've heard a billion jillion times, I will still jam out to them. The old layouts of my room from when I started tripping and at the peak of my usage, I kind of miss them even though I know the layout I currently have going is the best for the size and shape of my room. The shirts and pj pants I wore for my trips, I still love them to death and think they're the best clothes I have. Weird shit like that.
It's really strange, but it feels right, if that makes sense.
Is this an effect if dxm, disso's in general, or is it just me being weirdly sentimental? Has anyone else experienced this?
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Thomas Crunnertere - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 14:41:06 EST ID:F6Mk86js No.354808 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354807
Sorry for the novel, I didn't realise this was so long. NB doublepost.
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Walter Crushpet - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 17:41:30 EST ID:c877Fw88 No.354813 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354807
Goddamn phone!
Dxm= dam
HE= HD
fun=dxm also
Fucking hate autocorrect.
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Nicholas Crecklepod - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 18:44:46 EST ID:2TEY7yzl No.354819 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I only feel like that for stuff I like in the first place, which is also mainly the stuff I try to incorporate into my trips naturally, I I'm not sure about that.

I have however always had the thought that DXM, especially on the come-up, puts you into a very nostalgic mind-setting. Maybe it's the dreamy vision which has a slight impressionist vibe to it, or the general effect of "getting into DXM-state-dependent-memory", where I feel like I have been suddenly become my alter-DXM-ego, memories of former trips (and the specific DXM-induced emotional colouring of those memories) become more accessible, you feel like you're a very specific but obviously very different person for the duration of the trip, giving you many reasons for nostalgia.
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Molly Dadgestone - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 19:37:01 EST ID:VIBhu2kv No.354822 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It's not just you, dissociatives, at least the ones I like, cause intense feelings of nostalgia for me. They bring back feelings I thought were long gone and bring me back to the best mindsets I've been in in my life. This is mainly why they're so addictive, because when I take a break from them, I start to obsess over them until I finally give in and start doing them again. Not that it's impossible to refrain from doing them, but it's like saying good bye to a childhood friend or a film that you enjoyed immensely or a lover that's been with you for a long time. They instill this sort of romantic longing for them once you do them long enough. Hell I even find myself longing for a DXM trip even when I have much better dissociatives to do and despite the fact that DXM tends to cause really uncomfortable side effects.

One really cool aspect of this, though, is my mind generates nostalgic feelings for certain periods of my life more readily and rapidly than before I started using dissociatives. Thinking back to just a few weeks ago gives me nostalgia even if it wasn't that interesting of a period in my life. Prior to that I felt like I was losing a lot of these nostalgic feelings as time went on, but now I retain a large amount of them.

It's a very interesting effect but it's one that needs to be kept in check lest it get out of hand.
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Caroline Muttingshit - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 20:13:17 EST ID:VIBhu2kv No.354825 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354813

Also lmao DXM autocorrected to "fun". Your phone knows what's up.


BWD by Nicholas Savingdock - Mon, 27 Mar 2017 00:05:55 EST ID:FCsxyGwb No.353013 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Oh shit! Old one stopped bumping. Y'all better whip out your baggies of internet powder or crack open that bottle of syrup, cause it's /dis/ time again.

Can I get a 1 minute ban, a party mode and an AMEN?!?
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Ian Buzzspear - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 15:53:41 EST ID:MriNEU/H No.354810 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>354809
I really wish it had been all that and a bag of chips. It was a hell of a trip don't get me wrong, but I'm on the comedown. I usually shoot for a low 2nd and wanted to try something new, but I couldn't choke down the grapefruit juice this morning, it was just too fucking nasty. Have never tried it before, didn't expect it to be so bad. I think I overdid it on the DPH though trying to ward off any itch/nausea, as I promptly nodded off through the come-up, and woke up a little delirious. Had quite a bit of trouble getting my headphones and playlist going

Do you know of something to make the juice more palatable, or do I just need to suck it up and take in shots?
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Hamilton Crummergold - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 16:36:42 EST ID:MbpJrxPG No.354811 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354810

You honestly dont really need to use gf (grape fruit juice)j if you plan to slow dose like you said. If you want to use it anyway then add suger or mix it with another juice that you enjoy and that mixes well with the gfj. If that doesnt work try adding sugar to it.

For the benadryl, yeah id say you dont even really need that either. Id say buy a box of triple c and then starting with your first dose raplace 2 gels with 1 ccc, that means 8 gels and 1 triple c for your 1st, 3rd, 5th, and 7th dose. Your other doses (2, 4, 6, 8) are all still 10 gels. That means youll wind up tsking just 4 triple c and that should be enough to curve neasua and any itch. If you want even more nausea help without adding sedation then buy a bottle of ginger capsules.and take 2 with your 1st plateau dose of about 150mg ( that also should have 1 triple c as part of the dose) and that should keep you decent.

Also, as a side note: save the extra 120mg you have left over (since you added the triple c) until afterglow and tske it during that sometime insread of just making your dose larger.

Good luck!
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Hamilton Crummergold - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 16:37:37 EST ID:MbpJrxPG No.354812 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354811
Also forgot to say but low dosing for a little show with my gf tonight.
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Molly Dadgestone - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 19:42:54 EST ID:VIBhu2kv No.354823 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>353013

Bumpin' on 21mg of 3-MEO-PCE snorted and sublingual. This shit is nice, I love the mania and the euphoria, but it really makes me miss MXE. It looks, tastes and even smells just like MXE (MXE had a really mild, very clean smell, kind of like a hospital, that was only present when one were to smell a large bag of the stuff), but it's missing that beautiful hole.

Oh well, it's very nice in its own right.
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Molly Dadgestone - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 19:56:06 EST ID:VIBhu2kv No.354824 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354810

You could try looking for grapefruit juice extract. Nb


legal dissociatives by Clara Bovingfuck - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 21:40:22 EST ID:eTAxU2iP No.354795 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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which ones are the easiest to hole on?
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Charles Cecklespear - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 18:37:17 EST ID:kU8H9xeb No.354818 Ignore Report Quick Reply
DCK
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Nicholas Huddlestack - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 19:03:27 EST ID:DktjEM9Q No.354821 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354795

2f-dck or just 2f-k for short is probably the best just from hearing what others have to say about it. I've never tried it myself but apparently it's almost indistinguishable from Ketamine minus the slightly lower potency. It's kind of expensive, though. I really want to give this one a try.

After that I'd say O-PCE. It has a really clean hole and it's very similar to MXE but a lot more potent. I like it because of how ridiculously clean the trip feels compared to DCK/O-PCM. It does feel a little lacking though compared to MXE, like something is missing that I can't quite put my finger on. Also it's kind of easy to black out on due to the high potency. I'd say it's maybe 1.5x less potent than 3-MEO-PCP.

DCK is nice if you can get a good batch. The only reason I rate it lower than O-PCE is there are a bunch of really shitty batches going around, one that's extremely caustic, vasoconstrictive to the umpteenth degree and overall probably the worst drug I've ever done besides fucking DPH. No exaggeration, it was bad. Good batches of it though are fucking Godly and are more euphoric than O-PCE, and I've only had one bad batch, but the batch inconsistency is pretty worrying. Whatever the synthesis impurities are, they're straight poison.


Diphenidine by Polly Cheshserk - Thu, 22 Jun 2017 23:58:19 EST ID:EZcnBZUY No.354779 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Why does everyone here seem to hate diphenidine so much?
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James Clinnerdedging - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 18:30:23 EST ID:1FFgaflR No.354817 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354779

I don't like dissociatives that make me feel like death the next day and don't have interesting effects.

There's no euphoria, it makes me feel insane, I black out very easily and it causes tachycardia and makes me feel out of breath and horrible.

Also it's one phenyl group away from MT-45, the opioid RC that made people's hair fall out and their skin dry up into a scaley mess.

Why do you like it?
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Samuel Wagglebere - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 18:53:45 EST ID:Hxolm4Jo No.354820 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I tried very hard to enjoy Diphenidine but just couldn't. It just made me feel dead and cold inside. It's only positive for me was that it provided minor dissociation when I didn't want to be sober, but even then it wasn't the deep worthwhile dissociative experience I got with DXM, MXE and DCK. It never made music sound better, just dull and empty. Couldnt enjoy movies or media as I'd just stare blankly. All I'd end up doing after taking it was just laying in the dark in a shitty headspace wishing I could be sober again. Not to mention the hangover was fucking awful and would immobilize me the entire day after.


n2o accidents by Jenny Dendlefock - Thu, 22 Jun 2017 15:58:30 EST ID:GipTNBzL No.354771 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Guys, any thoughts on this?

https://www.rt.com/viral/393612-whipped-cream-explosion-death/
[Popular fitness blogger dies after whipped cream dispenser explodes at home]

looks like a cheap one to me, where only the inside is made out of aluminium, while the outside is some plastic shit, but it could also be aluminium judging from the glint of the material when seen in the light

I basically got one which has the same basic form as this, volumen 0.5 l, but is made completely out of aluminium. it's a pretty good one too, absorbs all the cold from the cartridge immedtiately, but I never used more than max 5 cartridges (a 8 g nitrous) with it because the pressure on usage got very high. never had a problem with it so far
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Rebecca Blurringbanks - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 21:47:40 EST ID:qWy30If0 No.354796 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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PSA: EVERYBODY here knows you're supposed to release into a ballon from the dispenser right? Never go direct to the dispenser. That's full retard.

I myself have 2 crackers, which thankfully has slown me down on certain occasions. It's a waste to do more than 1 cartridge in less than five minutes in my opinion. Too much diminishing effect.

>>354783
The metal ones are hardly much more expensive and are a much better device, so I don't see why people wouldn't buy them. If you can't afford the metal, get crackers. If you're too cheap to do them properly, you're too poor for drugs period.

It seems pretty trivial to me for them to implement a pressure relief valve should you exceed the psi of say, 3 cartridges inside. Maybe it's extra cost and it might prevent proper operation 10 years down the road, but atleast they could avoid litigation and save lives.
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Charles Nuzzlefack - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 22:27:50 EST ID:8nxlz+GF No.354797 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354796
> Never go direct to the dispenser. That's full retard.
literally why
inb4 some bullshit about freezing air (it's still cool but it loses most of its bite when it's filled into the dispenser)
and yeah of course everyone should be using a good metal canister because otherwise your plastic one can break like this one

seems like a freak accident for a lot of stupid reasons and not worth the threads I've been seeing around the internet, including this one, so nb
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Rebecca Cossleshaw - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 00:22:43 EST ID:IqgnmU+/ No.354798 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354796
>Never go direct to the dispenser. That's full retard

I also disagree with this. Straight from the dispenser is fine, you just don't push the level down fully and have it spray out at full pressure. I mean, I can see how there's some danger of getting too fucked up and just mashing the handle down, but I think you're overstating it.
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Fucking Wummerwere - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 18:00:27 EST ID:gf7mZBFz No.354814 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354798

I think he's confusing dispensers with crackers.

A cracker is the little cylindrical thing that screws together onto the cartridge and pops the seal, releasing the nitrous out of two small holes. You need a balloon with these as the nitrous comes out at really high speeds and is extremely cold, which can cause severe damage to your throat and lungs.

A dispenser is a whipped cream dispenser, basically a cracker attached to a tank that the cartridge dispenses nitrous into so people can make their own whipped cream. You don't really need a balloon with these as long as you don't put more than two cartridges at a time in the tank and don't press the lever all the way down. The tank allows the gas to expand so it doesn't freeze your lungs or come out too quickly. Never put more than two in one of these, though, unless you have a one liter tank or larger, but even then I wouldn't. Don't forget you're dealing with a shitload of pressure. Treat that shit like you would a firearm.

Also never ever use one that has any plastic parts, crackers especially. They esplode.
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Oliver Dallerchug - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 18:25:57 EST ID:8o5oE9sc No.354816 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354796
>PSA: EVERYBODY here knows you're supposed to release into a ballon from the dispenser right? Never go direct to the dispenser. That's full retard.

Well the reason I said "the pressure got too high using 5 cartridges" was precisely because the pressure on exit directly from the dispenser made me fear for my lungs. 1 to 3 seem to me to pose no pressure problem which could dramatically damage the lungs on exit, but at 4-5 I started feeling uncomfortable with the speed on inhaling. The important thing is to go slow on the dispenser handle and to not try to press it down with force and in one go. The cold isn't a problem with mine, it's all pretty well absorbed by the material. I don't think the pressure would be enough to damage a metal dispenser, or to turn the dispenser cap into shrapnel.

>>354783

Well, I'm not sure about that, I can still press the handle down pretty well and hold after some moderate initial resistance, so how much pressure is the dispenser really taking? If I can press down and hold, I find it hard to imagine that this would be too much for the thing. the accident happened because the dispenser cap broke somehow, this seems to be the most relevant part about this situation.

Anyways, maybe I am doing things wrong, but 1-3 cartridges only does much for me when I am under the influence of something else like DXM at the same time, in which case I usually leave it at 2 or 3 usages with 1-3 cartridges. Using nitrous only is repetitive and pretty unsatisfying, so I naturally tried to up the dose.

I also tried to get ballons and release the nitrous into one from the dispenser, but I don't manage to achieve much strength using this method. Whether I try to breathe in and out of the ballong (with some pauses for getting oxygen), or just try to release inhale it in one go and hold, it's not as strong as getting it directly from the dispenser, where you can really fill out your lung capacity and hold for some time (a ballon can't hold that much).

So am I doing it wrong or is the main appeal using little doses of nitrous to enhance trips with a different main substance?>>354771


Habitual DXM user questionnaire by Esther Crucklestone - Sat, 06 May 2017 14:57:30 EST ID:EhePHOun No.353910 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Just looking to gather some information.

>how old were you when you first used it?
>how often did you use at the peak of your habit?
>how often do you use now?
>whats your preferred way to take it (syrup, delsym, gels, extraction etc)
>have you had any health problems from using it?
>if so, what were those problems and how long did they persist after stopping?
>how many mg do you need to hallucinate?
>have you had any mental instability like depression or mania from using it?
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Rebecca Cossleshaw - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 00:23:58 EST ID:IqgnmU+/ No.354799 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354787
>harder for minors to get in Florida

Enjoy being underage b&
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Albert Briddleman - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 00:45:28 EST ID:HDrW/D1a No.354800 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>how old were you when you first used it?
25. I know, late bloomer
>how often did you use at the peak of your habit?
Four weekends in a row, I dosed 350mg.
>how often do you use now?
Once a month or every two months depending on circumstances and how much I'm itching for it.
>whats your preferred way to take it (syrup, delsym, gels, extraction etc)
Syrup if I'm doing a simple dose. I will mix and match to reach higher doses, ie: 350 mg syrup, 300mg gels, 240mg from CCC's.
>have you had any health problems from using it?
I started taking it when I was depressed and bored. It's hard to say if it's made me more depressed. I know I feel worse for a few days but come back to what I think is baseline. I definitely also have memory issues since starting, but that can also be traced back to depression. I wish I'd recorded things more empirically.
>if so, what were those problems and how long did they persist after stopping? I'm in a hangover stupor for a day or two with residual poor coordination. DXM poly use is pretty much Sayonara, weekend. A low, listless mental state can persist from even longer, up to a week.
>how many mg do you need to hallucinate?
I can see closed eye visuals at just 225mg
>have you had any mental instability like depression or mania from using it?
Again, it's hard to figure out the chicken and the egg. Am I more dperessed because I'm using DXM, or does depression encourage me to use DXM? I'm sure it's a two-way-street. I've noticed that I've become more irritable to sounds and voices lately. I'll also have some bizarrely cheerful moments where I'm singing to myself and break out in tears.
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Reuben Bivingketch - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 01:00:16 EST ID:Kt6UABJv No.354802 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>353910

I would love to answer this properly but I can only post on my phone because of a global ban for posting some reverse racism as a joke that Kirt couldn't fucking handle. I can't be fucked appealing either even though this board is the best and got me started on this shit. I can tell you that I abused the shit out of it and it led to a massive mental breakdown but I was also going through a bad break up from a 6 year relationship and abusing dexamphetamine and alcohol during that time as well. I was also stuck in my own mind and had no one to talk to so that contributed greatly to a weakened state of mind, however now I am crawling out of the shit and imrpoving. Finding the right antidepressants for my depression and exercising more and eating better so I do still use dxm when I feel like I need to push myself to do something. I use it in small amounts to get through the days successfully but occasionally if I do to much I lock up and get fucked so it leaves me to just lie down and listen to positive affirmations so I can reprogram my subconscious mind to positive thinking.
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Fucking Henderstin - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 14:08:49 EST ID:Y4VlICmt No.354806 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>how old were you when you first used it?

About 15 yrs old, middle school

>how often did you use at the peak of your habit?

Everyday as like using alcohol to self-medicate everyday

>how often do you use now?

None, i recently tried a delsym bottle and all i got a was just a dirty high. I really do not feel the need to do or crave dxm anymore

>whats your preferred way to take it (syrup, delsym, gels, extraction etc)

Popping massive amounts of gels plus delsym
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Fucking Wummerwere - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 18:11:36 EST ID:gf7mZBFz No.354815 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354802

I answered mine using a phone. Nb


is MXE still around (in the USA) ? by Lydia Clevingfoot - Thu, 22 Jun 2017 19:29:52 EST ID:Y1OvgK44 No.354775 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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soooooo i haven't been around in a while, literally YEARS, took a break from RCs, idk what's going on these days, etc... SO... wtf is up with MXE these days? im on the east coast of the USA, mostly all my vendors dont supply MXE anymore. my only question is: is there still reliable, legitimate, quality, vendors selling MXE to the USA anymore?

...of course im not asking for any links. it's honestly just pure curiosity. i just want to know if it's still available, or just gone completely, or what.
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Hugh Dedgefoot - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 07:24:05 EST ID:xahQwwVt No.354784 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354775
From what i hear, both yes and no. Yes in the esne that there are a few places selling mxe but no in the sense that most of the mxe being sold either isnt mxe or is of poor quality.

Havent ever searched myself but this was the response the last few times this was asked.
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Reuben Figglesock - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 13:36:57 EST ID:5T2R0aLo No.354805 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354784
Mostly DCK , 3meopcp, 3hopcp, 3hopce, 2f-Duck is what you want to look for. Most people like dck (ketamine anolog) and the 3hopcp.


safety tips for DXM trip by Polly Sabblebanks - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 16:44:19 EST ID:DW+oJEg2 No.354789 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I had half a beer an hour before taking 500mg Robitussin

Will i be safe?

What are some warning signs I should look out for? (healthwise)
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Molly Goodwell - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 16:52:44 EST ID:4l3mRwk1 No.354790 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>354789
Lol
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William Gellersodging - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 18:05:06 EST ID:hicsIfD3 No.354791 Ignore Report Quick Reply
You'll be fine, man. Just don't freak yourself out thinking about it.
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Caroline Toothall - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 19:17:15 EST ID:s2wIPpqG No.354792 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354789

You'll be fine. At worst you might be a little more nauseated. At best you'll have a more wonky trip. Half a beer probably won't do shit, though.
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Reuben Bivingketch - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 00:51:24 EST ID:Kt6UABJv No.354801 Ignore Report Quick Reply
It might contribute to some nasty shitting when it comes out the other end. That's about it.
Drink plenty of water and remember to relax.
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Ian Buzzspear - Sat, 24 Jun 2017 07:11:31 EST ID:MriNEU/H No.354803 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354789

I was encouraged to have two beers at the tail end of my come-up as part of my first trip, though at 220lbs two does almost nothing for me. I was fine, no noticeable negatives.


Uncaria rhynchophylla/ rhynchophylline by James Pickspear - Sat, 03 Jun 2017 04:27:36 EST ID:dGV/8OaR No.354448 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Do any of you have experience with rhynchophylline, the aklaloid contained in the chinese herb Cats Claw (Uncaria rhynchophylla)? I find this chemical highly intriguing because, through my google searches, its the only naturally occuring plant based NMDA antagonist that is currently known of. Even more intriguing is the complete lack of information on its potential hallucinogenic properties. Theres research pertaining to its potential use to treat seizures and depression, but no information on if it has dissociative properites (which I assume it does because its an NMDA antagonist).

Basically the point of this thread is just to encourage discussion about this chemical. A simple google search led me to discover that Uncaria rhynchophylla is sold in powdered form, and so i wonder if it could be made into tea, which of course raises the question of if rhynchophylline is water soluble and heat resistant. Another concern is that Uncaria rhynchophylla contains other alkaloids, so theres a risk that some may be toxic. What do you guys think? How would one go about safely testing this drug?
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Archie Blogglenire - Sat, 03 Jun 2017 06:06:02 EST ID:17mpXOUw No.354450 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354448
People have been using cats claw for ages. I was under the impression that it was one of the hundreds of mildly psychoactive herbs that are easily obtainable on the internet. It may be intoxicating at very high doses, who knows. The best way to safely test its dissociative properties is to order some, try it at it's recomended dose, then next day or next experiment day up the dose, etc until you feel any actual psychoactive effects.
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Oliver Gondlebanks - Wed, 07 Jun 2017 01:13:42 EST ID:uNZRhuUq No.354507 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've read that there are two strains and only one of them is high in rhynchophylline. If you get some make sure it's the right one, don't remember which is dominant on the market.
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Samuel Cevingchurk - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 10:49:42 EST ID:IqgnmU+/ No.354786 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354448
Here's another naturally occuring NMDA antagonist

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychotria_colorata
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychotridine
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Hannah Pammlefuck - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 20:27:31 EST ID:s2wIPpqG No.354794 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354448

Ibogaine is also a naturally occuring, psychoactive NMDA antagonist, amongst its other myriad of effects.

Kratom also has a small amount of Rhynchophylline in its alkaloid profile if I remember correctly. I mixed a relatively small dose of 3-MEO-PCP with Kratom once and had an incredibly intense dissociative experience. It had extremely powerful and vivid open eye visuals that aren't typical of most of my 3-MEO-PCP experiences but still very dissociative in nature. Kratom seems to potentiate the fuck out of dissociatives for me and I wouldn't doubt that Rhynchophylline contributes to it.


Pharmacy by Matilda Nigglefadging - Tue, 20 Jun 2017 01:32:04 EST ID:uBz+l2Qj No.354724 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I started to take dxm not long ago. I have three pharmacies where I can go to get it. They do not ask me for prescription. But what if someday they suddenly ask me for it?

Also I buy it with my number of client I have for these three stores. But they do not know that I buy it to trip. But they keep the record that I buy lots of dxm with my name and all that in their database... And I buy almost every day of the week. Mentally I'm fine and better than ever but I'm worried that someday they will take dxm from me.

What do you do? I don't want to resort to codeine, man. I heard it creates addiction.

Take a Stoya with you.

I will thank any advice with all my heart.

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Fuck Dobbledidge - Tue, 20 Jun 2017 20:03:52 EST ID:u7LVgCbP No.354743 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354739
>you can even get them at dollar stores.

In Canada, really? I thought we only had the expensive robitussin ones.
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Graham Bibberfudge - Wed, 21 Jun 2017 19:49:28 EST ID:613ENfpc No.354755 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Do you have a client number? Do you give away some personal info like an ID, cellphone number or something? Do you buy it without giving away any of this? Maybe I'm worrying too much.

Nope, don't have anything like a client # and have never been asked for my ID or cellphone number as there's no limit on the amount of dxm you can purchase. If something is OTC here the sales of those products isn't scrutinized unless it can be used as a precurser to manufacture an illegal drug like sudafed is for crystal meth than pharmacies are encouraged to report suspicious purchases.

you can even get them at dollar stores.

>In Canada, really? I thought we only had the expensive robitussin ones.

If you have a Dollar Tree store near you they should sell generic gels, check this link (https://www.dollartree.com/Assured-Long-Lasting-Cough-Relief-Softgels-15-ct-Packs/p344571/index.pro)
They should be able to ship an order of gels to your neighbourhood store free of charge where you can pick it up if they don't have them in their general stock. They will also ship them right to your door for a fee if you like the convenience.
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Nigel Faffingshit - Wed, 21 Jun 2017 23:11:41 EST ID:LHIOl5Hp No.354757 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354724
You're in Canada. I'm in a small shitty country with VERY strict rules on drugs and I can easily order 2 boxes of DXM cough gels at a time from overseas. Figure it out!
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Ernest Dallybury - Thu, 22 Jun 2017 19:52:22 EST ID:OcRh0oMq No.354776 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354755
I was the first person to post about that on the board. I regret it sorely on account of it always being sold out now from there. I lurk here daily - no duh people have talked about assured brand on other forums before but I never saw it mentioned on here 'till I "leaked it" to you guys. No hate - we all enjoy it I guess.
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Edwin Fublingham - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 14:14:38 EST ID:R+8wKAJ/ No.354788 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354724
as long as u dont steal your dex and dont let them see you using it they dont give a fuck you paid for it


3-MeO-CheesePizza by Emma Dribbleford - Wed, 07 Jun 2017 06:40:16 EST ID:pDfk6u6L No.354513 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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It's a trip seeing 3-meo-pcp being almost a staple in every vendors product list, falling into the role that MXE once maintained for years. 2017 you see hexen, some pvp bullshit, etiz, a tryptamine or two, and 3-meo. Man I remember when this shit was like 80/g from the one or two vendors who stocked it. 3-meo was so much more interesting when MXE was available. Now it's just inconvenient. At least we have 2-fk, something that doesn't last forever and a day.
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Lydia Clibberwater - Sat, 17 Jun 2017 15:47:26 EST ID:DW+oJEg2 No.354686 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354640
> heavy on the heart at times

But it's not a stimulant?
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Henry Cimbletine - Sat, 17 Jun 2017 23:00:29 EST ID:/vN8qKIv No.354692 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354636
Funny you should say that. I took DPH with 3-MeO-PCP and found that they did not mingle... I still had a good time, but there was no synergy or strengthening of hallucinations as with DXM and DPH. It just felt like a DPH trip alongside a 3-MeO-PCP high.
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Esther Bedgedud - Sun, 18 Jun 2017 17:49:31 EST ID:F5DraC9B No.354706 Ignore Report Quick Reply
where the F did you get some mxe from???????????
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Cyril Snodshit - Thu, 22 Jun 2017 21:46:59 EST ID:oufkQqhB No.354777 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354513
>3meopcp

that's pce in your pic tho
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Samuel Cevingchurk - Fri, 23 Jun 2017 10:37:11 EST ID:IqgnmU+/ No.354785 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354777
...Doesn't the label say it's MXE?


Dissos vs brain by Augustus Fossleham - Tue, 20 Jun 2017 03:54:46 EST ID:WOAMjuUx No.354727 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Do all dissociative drugs fry your brain after frequent use, causing memory problems etc... or are there any that are "easy" on the brain?

Is it in the nature of dissociative drugs to make one mentally unstable and destroy brain?
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William Wullywater - Wed, 21 Jun 2017 01:40:59 EST ID:WOAMjuUx No.354748 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354740
>inability to tolerate sobriety for long stretches of time

But dont you lose the magic after repeated use?
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Priscilla Buncocke - Wed, 21 Jun 2017 05:11:37 EST ID:FnHYRNVF No.354751 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>354748

the magic doesn't go, the magic only changes
for it is not merely the act of the drug,
but what is in your heart and in your brain up above

If you're losing the magic, you need to look at what you're doing while you are dissociated
staring at the wall while dissed out isn't going to be a new experience forever.
but it enhances and greatly changes the way in which you conceptualize and are able to interact with your life

for example, I'm currently studying Japanese, I am in a Japanese course at college and am riding the disso train errday
and it's trippy as fuck to learn a language when you're high as fuck on K and 3-MeO-PCP and weed and being like a kid in kindergarten trying to learn the alphabet again
and then you trip out thinking about how language is fucking insane and it's pretty magical when you look at it for what it truly is. There's a lot of power behind the medium by which we can interact with one another and discuss things, even just simple things, let alone abstract things... shit is fun.
life is a lot about the way you look at it, and the same is true of disso usage
you don't disso looking for the same feeling every time
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Phoebe Pickgold - Thu, 22 Jun 2017 04:08:11 EST ID:WOAMjuUx No.354763 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354751
Thank you, this certainly does make me consider set and setting to be important for disso trips. I have been dissing under the same set and settings for quite awhile now
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Jenny Dartridge - Thu, 22 Jun 2017 04:49:46 EST ID:0P894Wg3 No.354764 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The problem with these threads is the clear limit of introspection. Remember that 4-chloroamphetamine is so neurotoxic it is used to selectively kill neurons in test rats, but when it was clinically tried in humans the subjects reported no adverse effects whatsoever. For my part I very strongly suspect these drugs are bad for your brain long-term, but I can't prove it.
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Hannah Settingbanks - Thu, 22 Jun 2017 19:19:51 EST ID:1pV1R1co No.354774 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Don't forget you also get older during many years of doing anything. It is natural to feel different and memorizing and recalling changes at certain ages. But yeah, doing too much heavy drug doses without breaks can cause problems top of that. Personally I feel my habbits are moderate enough, which are more than once a year but less than party hard every week.


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