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MXE prices by Sidney Dobberstone - Sat, 18 May 2013 22:31:52 EST ID:/mWGBAV4 No.243295 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>tfw this is the price of MXE these days

kill me, i don't want to live in this world anymore ;_;
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Ernest Cickledock - Sun, 19 May 2013 01:27:44 EST ID:DeXjDSXk No.243332 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>5mg
>$142
>no bump
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Nicholas Pittfoot - Sun, 19 May 2013 01:32:04 EST ID:PwowVbHl No.243333 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>243295
Nice filename, OP, ya jackass

nb
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Molly Gishman - Sun, 19 May 2013 01:42:36 EST ID:f/2Xs0Py No.243334 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>243295

I don't even believe this pic should be lumped into actual MXE price discussion. It's like a sick april fools joke that never got taken down. Good MXE should be no more than $40, MAYBE $45 a gram tops. Period.
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Jack - Sun, 19 May 2013 02:10:34 EST ID:oTMg5tAP No.243336 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>243334
Agreed. That said, I have seen it offered for hundreds of dollars per 10mg, etc. OP's pic might not be legitimate - but I've seen similar prices, offered by legitimate labs doing custom synthesis for research. To take that as "the price of MXE these days" is ridiculous, though.

Your price analysis is accurate.
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Samuel Tillingman - Sun, 19 May 2013 04:17:56 EST ID:jMKo3O1o No.243345 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>243295
>5mg
>142.80
fuck am i reading.....


Falling asleep by Molly Gishman - Sun, 19 May 2013 03:35:31 EST ID:f/2Xs0Py No.243340 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I'm about 3 hours into my 50mg MXE trip and i'd really like to head to sleep right about now, but alas i'm still tripping :0 .. i knew what i was committing to but man oh man does sleep sound sweet right now. Anybody have any advice for trying to fall asleep while still feeling the effects? I have alcohol available but nothing else. Is this an impossible task or can the mind overcome the drug here and soothe me to sleep? I'm pooped :x
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Edwin Lightwell - Sun, 19 May 2013 03:40:05 EST ID:hKRdH+as No.243341 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Best thing I know in that situation is just to close your eyes and try to sleep, sometimes I've been able to fall asleep a several hours in. The key is not to have anything distracting like music playing. If you are already tired you might as well try it.
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Jack - Sun, 19 May 2013 04:11:33 EST ID:oTMg5tAP No.243343 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Unfortunately, you'll most likely be awake for hours longer than you want to be.

Other drugs - sedatives, antihistamines, benzos - might help, but your mileage will vary.

The sleepless period ALWAYS lasts longer than the effective trip.

Close your eyes and try not to think of anything. If thoughts arise, keep asking yourself, "who is thinking this // who am I?"

And if you do drift off before the MXE stops having effects, you stand a good chance of having the best dreams of your life. I doubt alcohol will help much. Best of luck.
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Jack - Sun, 19 May 2013 04:14:57 EST ID:oTMg5tAP No.243344 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>243343
For the morning - caffeine/nicotine, the usual.

Modafinil, adrafinil, and derivatives - like amphetamines, they'll get you through the day, at a cost. It is occasionally, emphatically worth it.

Otherwise, a threshold (~20mg) dose of MXE is stimulating and can carry you. Or grit your teeth, and wait.


How much would you recommend? by Wesley Bleggleberk - Sat, 18 May 2013 16:57:57 EST ID:MkDXY/zp No.243262 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey /dis/, first off I'd like to apologize if I sound like a noob, and I'd also like to apologize because I'm sure you get these kinds of threads more often.

In any case, I'm going to be getting a couple bottles of cough gels. About 300 MG in each, as is average I believe. Now I've read about DXM a fuckton, and I definitely want to experience it. I'm a huge stoner already, so I will be combining it with weed. I like tripping, I'm not planning on really sitting down and playing videogames and getting immersed, more of just being amazed with everything and not being in my body, so to say. That's how I've heard it can be like. I've read about plateaus and such and I want to definitely enter a dissociative state but I don't want to utterly freak myself out to the point where I don't enjoy it, as I've read about some experienced LSD fiends being freaked out by low third plateau. I'm not sure if hallucinations and such are common, but they're not an issue to me. My main question here is, do I just go with one bottle of the gels (300mg) and enjoy a low 2nd plateau for my first time? or do you guys think there would be no consequences in shooting for 3rd plateau my first time. I'm definitely an adventurous type but if many of you guys recommend not shooting for third plateau my first time, I will not. Sorry if this was kind of rambly or didn't make sense, I'm very baked at the moment.
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Cornelius Smalldale - Sat, 18 May 2013 17:34:23 EST ID:oTMg5tAP No.243263 Ignore Report Quick Reply
The third is very different. Significantly less euphoria, less ability to move around, etc. I would go so far as to call it less "fun" although others will disagree. My experiences there have always been more serious, introspective, tripping. For that reason I'd recommend staying with a mid-strong 2nd. Enjoy it, get to know it, have fun before you shove off the deep end. With the weed, it's a solid night's entertainment.
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Wesley Bleggleberk - Sat, 18 May 2013 18:00:52 EST ID:MkDXY/zp No.243265 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>243263
thanks for the input, man. however, when you said introspective, did you mean sort of like self exploration? I don't mean to compare DXM to DMT, Salvia, or other similar hallucinogens, but I've heard that DMT and Salvia are great for self exploration and I've wanted to try them for quite a while then. Not to "trip balls bro and get fucked up bro" but to just sit in a dark room and close my eyes and see what happens. Would third plateau be rewarding if I planned to self-explore or something like that, instead of sitting playing video games, or dancing, or whatever?
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Walter Bondlebanks - Sun, 19 May 2013 02:25:23 EST ID:L/6YP6gt No.243338 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>243265
Basically, a third has potential to Fuck with your mind hard, but it can be a good pleasant fucking, and usually is. Weed is lube.

A second plat would be more like foreplay, its fun and all, not as intense, but not as memorable.
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Nigel Bunridge - Sun, 19 May 2013 02:53:36 EST ID:oTMg5tAP No.243339 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>243265
The second plat is more about inebriation and euphoria, totally focused on fun. The third is more "exploration" oriented, as you indicated. For better or worse.

I've been further with other dissociatives, but my third plats on DXM seemed to consist of "dying" over and over. Probably one of the least pleasant dissociative experiences, although plenty of others have found that dosage more rewarding.
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Wesley Pullerman - Sun, 19 May 2013 03:53:38 EST ID:MkDXY/zp No.243342 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>243338

>>243339

Not sure if name changed, OP here.

I considered it a bit more, and after these two posts I think I've decided that for now I'm going to just try the 2nd plat high, because who doesn't like fun and euphoria? I can also save the other bottle for a second time.

Definitely going to be trying third plat in the future though, not sure how soon. Thanks so much for the help, guys.


MXE Tavern by Nigel Fanham - Fri, 17 May 2013 18:22:52 EST ID:b6ISizyW No.243141 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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>Sitting here on ~20mg MXE sublingual- nothing interesting happens.
>Redosing with ~25mg MXE insufflated- very fast come up

So here I am, my vision is slightly blurry, I'm listening to Carbon Based Lifeforms.
I have SO MUCH university assignments due next week. I have to take MXE every other evening to be able to think properly.
Maybe I'm just going to tell my story short here- I have a problem with dopamine
levels, stress is affecting me greatly, causing me to lose interest in anything or
anyone. Everyday I wake up feeling basically like a sad zombie. And I have to
finish my work in 2 days' time.

Just wanted to share my shtuf while I lay here waiting for the night to take me.
I feel a strong urge to talk to people. Maybe you have some stories to share?
Anything to cheer a fellow /dis/ssolver..? Let's make a Tavern here.
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Edwin Lightwell - Sat, 18 May 2013 20:40:09 EST ID:hKRdH+as No.243281 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>243276

If it was really that simple don't you think that OP and others like him would go that route instead? Antidepressant drugs are not a magical fix-all as far as dopamine issues are concerned, take it from someone who has been there that sometimes the negative effects of these perfectly "safe" drugs you are touting are simply not worth it. MXE has has been found and documented to have legitimate antidepressant action, and and that makes it a legitimate form of therapy in my book.

>don't self medicate, you believing you NEED drug use to be happy really leads nowhere fast.

Aaaand how does that make it different from someone taking antidepressant drugs to be happy(er)? Oh I see they were prescribed by a licensed physician, so of course they must be better right? Because doctors always know best.

Please note I do make a distinction between someone using MXE or other dissociatives for recreation and those using it for treatment of depression. Someone just looking to get high isn't the same as someone using it in a controlled manner as a medication.
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Ebenezer Snodcocke - Sat, 18 May 2013 21:46:50 EST ID:aKUutKXt No.243287 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>243281
antidepressant properties of ketamine (haven't seen any studies on MXE) last a very short time. and it's pretty misunderstood actually. it snaps someone out of a depression briefly cycle, but it's not an effective way to treat chronic depression.

antidepressants don't make someone who isn't depressed "happier". that's not how it works. depression is a "gain of function" disorder. it's not just "not enough dopamine". it's not just a deficit of activity in your brain, like it used to be assumed. it's actually excessive activity in certain areas.
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Edwin Lightwell - Sat, 18 May 2013 22:20:26 EST ID:hKRdH+as No.243290 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>243287
You agree with what you are saying. My point was that not everyone with depression wants to be put on the clinically acceptable antidepressant drugs and that there is (at least some) interest in the scientific community as to the us of alternative antidepressant therapies like ketamine and MXE.

I couldn't find any articles talking about MXE specifically, so maybe I was wrong that it has been documented for that. However I found an article talking about the use of ketamine as antidepressant therapy, and it just so happens that MXE has very similar action on NMDA Receptors.
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Edwin Lightwell - Sat, 18 May 2013 22:21:17 EST ID:hKRdH+as No.243291 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>243290

Forgot the link:
http://bipolarnews.org/?p=1369
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Ebenezer Snodcocke - Sun, 19 May 2013 02:17:56 EST ID:aKUutKXt No.243337 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>243290
i agree with you that pharmaceutical companies are not always the answer. any time money is valued above the wellbeing of the human race is pretty sad. hopefully the world will wake up and stop restricting the research of inflict drugs in studies. for instance the couples therapy on MDMA was so ridiculously effective, and yet it went nowhere.


high DXM tolerance. by Barnaby Bremmerridge - Fri, 17 May 2013 21:08:02 EST ID:547N/oPw No.243162 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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hello all, ive been using dxm for about three years now, and my tolerance has shot through the roof. a second plateau dose for me is about 1-1.6 grams, and im sick of having to take so much and still not hit the third plateau. ive heard a little bit about potentiaters, but i was wondering if there were any combination that would be unsafe for me to take. i plan on taking all of the potentiators i can get my hands on.
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George Credgederk - Sat, 18 May 2013 08:51:02 EST ID:ko5ju80n No.243236 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>243219

Uh, no, spice is nothing like regular weed, two completely different drugs with extremely contrasting effects.
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Barnaby Bremmerridge - Sat, 18 May 2013 14:15:17 EST ID:547N/oPw No.243254 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>243236
that is very true, i didnt mean to say they were similar, but would it work well as a potentiator, or is it safe to mix the two? i know its kind of hard to answer the latter, seeing as the chemicals they use change frequently.
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Molly Bluddlenone - Sun, 19 May 2013 01:20:20 EST ID:ko5ju80n No.243330 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>243254

I would recommend mixing them.

Why, I can't tell you, as I'm too high and drunk to bother.

Bump for you though so someone else can answer it or maybe I will tomorrow depending on how slow/dis/ is
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Jack Sandlesudge - Sun, 19 May 2013 01:24:40 EST ID:WmETUN29 No.243331 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>243330
he's probably dead by now, don't bother.
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Jack - Sun, 19 May 2013 02:07:07 EST ID:oTMg5tAP No.243335 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>243254
It will work as a potentiator - if you consider weed a potentiator - in pretty much the same way. If you're at all prone to anxiety, I'd avoid it, but yeah, it works.

Get some nitrous oxide ("whipped cream chargers" - amazon, headshops, porn shops), a cracker, and a balloon or two; makes the peak really interesting (~1 minute per charger, but feels like so much longer). Save a few for the comedown, as it brings the trip back up for awhile.

White grapefruit juice or Seville orange juice, maybe a liter, begin drinking earlier in the day. 5-htp (50-100mg, no more, as you risk serotonin syndrome) enhances it slightly.

Magnesium is a weak NMDA antagonist, but for some reason adversely affects the trip more than it helps. Not sure why.

Damiana "colors" the trip in a way that's hard to describe unless you've been there. It's a subtle effect, but also really worthwhile as it makes it more interesting and two dollars will buy all you will ever need to smoke. Get it from an herbalist, use google maps to find one or have it sent to you.

Cigarettes - not sure how they interact chemically. Not going to bother looking it up. Some say they enhance the trip, others claim the opposite. Fun to do while tripping, regardless.

Self potentiation - split large doses up into halves; take them an hour apart. The metabolites of the first dose competitively inhibit enzymes used to break down the second dose; more DXM evades first pass metabolism.
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Shrooms following DXM by Fucking Domblehedge - Sat, 18 May 2013 22:49:19 EST ID:xyb+dK40 No.243298 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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If I do DXM tonight how will shrooms be tomorrow?
I imagine they would probably be amplified but have no experience with it.
I humbly request your wealth of knowledge.
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Cornelius Bambleworth - Sat, 18 May 2013 23:56:03 EST ID:BDjMz4Yc No.243307 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>243303
I'm going to second this guy, dis/psy combo is one of the best there is.
If you do shrooms the next day they'll be amplified by the dxm afterglow if you take them early enough in the day. The shrooms might have some subtle differences but nothing significant i would imagine.
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Faggy Fanderwitch - Sun, 19 May 2013 00:27:41 EST ID:kIqgT3as No.243314 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>243307
>dis/psy combo is one of the best there is
It seems like we can't repeat this enough. It really is amazing.
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Fucking Domblehedge - Sun, 19 May 2013 00:33:10 EST ID:xyb+dK40 No.243319 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I haven't made a thread on here in months til today.
Thank you for the information guys. Will be a great next few days.
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Faggy Fanderwitch - Sun, 19 May 2013 00:44:54 EST ID:kIqgT3as No.243322 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>243319
Well somebody a couple days ago asked this exact question. Somebody will be robotripping at the same time as you, then the next day tripping on shrooms also, and you both came here for help. Far out, man.
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Fucking Domblehedge - Sun, 19 May 2013 00:50:29 EST ID:xyb+dK40 No.243326 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>243322
Makes sense sense thise is probably the most far out board in all of christendom


will I get high? by Ebenezer Nummercocke - Sun, 19 May 2013 00:09:49 EST ID:6wxx+5fR No.243308 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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aye
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Ebenezer Nummercocke - Sun, 19 May 2013 00:27:14 EST ID:6wxx+5fR No.243313 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>243311
>>243311
lol faggy fanderwich
lol parents
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Fucking Domblehedge - Sun, 19 May 2013 00:30:24 EST ID:xyb+dK40 No.243316 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>243313
you write like such a high school fag he assumed you lived with your parents while you go to high school.
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Faggy Fanderwitch - Sun, 19 May 2013 00:32:22 EST ID:kIqgT3as No.243318 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>that sinking feeling when you notice you just used "you're" instead of "your"
I'm so tired right now.

>>243313
lol ebenezer nummercocke
lol lol
Have fun.
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Molly Bluddlenone - Sun, 19 May 2013 00:49:42 EST ID:ko5ju80n No.243325 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>243311

>People using you're instead of your

I bet you kiss girls too don't you faggot
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roflcoptr - Sun, 19 May 2013 00:53:21 EST ID:ZzJ6aR7f No.243328 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>243325
haha nb


DXM use with GAUF? by Amber - Sun, 19 May 2013 00:30:12 EST ID:HbMxmqRn No.243315 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I've been doing ALOT of robotripping lately, and I've been very careful to use only about once every week, but sometimes going as long as three weeks, for the past 6 months.
I've been sticking to one package of the robotussin liquid gels with 20 caps each containing 15 MG of DXM and nothing else. (Pic related, also I hate the taste of the syrup, it's so thick and nasty.)
Well, I've been really wanting to trip for the past few days, but I can't go to the store, been pretty broke, and I have about 5 bottles of mucinex containing 15MG of DXM and I think about 500/600MG of gauf. (Someone in my house got prescribed a shit ton of it, got it paid for by insurance)
My question is, if I take about a bottle, or two, am I gonna puke my guts up? I have a pretty strong stomach. I've read mixxed reviews everywhere about DXM with gauf, and I have no idea where else to get some quick replies except here.
I have some weed, if it would honestly help with the nausea, I don't mind nausea and maybe puking once or twice, I just don't wanna puke for hours on end.
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Fucking Domblehedge - Sun, 19 May 2013 00:31:40 EST ID:xyb+dK40 No.243317 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've done DXM multiple times and even less than a bottle of robotussin containing gauf made me too nauseous to even move. I am experienced with the normal robonausea but have never experienced anything like that.
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Lillian Blatherridge - Sun, 19 May 2013 00:37:07 EST ID:zLtjEDY5 No.243320 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>243315
for me i cant take guaf without puking, and i would never advocate taking anything but dxm only products.

However I have also read reports on this board who can take large doses with no nausea. Just test the waters, take like 200mg see how you feel after a while, redose if you don't feel to bad.
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Faggy Fanderwitch - Sun, 19 May 2013 00:40:47 EST ID:kIqgT3as No.243321 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>243315
I have a strong stomach and I can easily chug 16 ounces of syrup without vomiting.

Half a 4-ounce bottle's worth of gauifenesin makes me projectile vomit no matter how much I try not to. It doesn't bother me at all, though. Just making sure people don't find it is the unfun part. Moral of the story: You will vomit. Embrace the vomit.

My life would be complete if I were prescribed any DXM medication. Agent Lemon all day erryday. Somebody start coughing at me so I can get sick.
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Molly Bluddlenone - Sun, 19 May 2013 00:45:17 EST ID:ko5ju80n No.243323 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Gauf makes most all people extremely fucking nauseous, some people's bodies handle it better than others, but these are the exception to the rule.

it sucks don't do it p.s. it sucks dick not even think about it bornachorcho

nb for bornachorcho
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Amber - Sun, 19 May 2013 00:46:40 EST ID:HbMxmqRn No.243324 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Not even gonna try it, thanks for all the feed back. :)


Looking for thoughts by Hugh Borrywudge - Sat, 18 May 2013 21:49:08 EST ID:kRRKLcNU No.243288 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Gather round, /dis/. My first post here, and boy I didn't think it would be anything like this. So, just a little about me, I'm an 18yo senior, pursuing a culinary career. I have an extremely addictive personality. I started using dph last october, the night before the first of a handful of giant shitstorms between myself and my best friend of 6 years, and about 1 month before we stopped talking altogether.

Fast forward to about February, I had obtained my first of a rapidly growing number of cough syrup bottles under my belt. First time, I did a 360/300 dxm/dph dose, and i saw my first spiders. The next couple times i ingested near a bottle's worth of syrup, I'd puke it up about an hour or two later. Fast foward to about a month and a half ago...

I had decided fuck it, and to break the week per plateau rule. I dexxed the first week of april, hit a second nice second plat, waited till around the 27th of april, dexxed again, second plat. Dexed again early this month, only this time i had downed a half gallon of wgfj. It was starting to take its toll. I decide to dex yet again on thursday, jumping up to 1080mg coupled with wgfj because why not? It would counteract my growing tolerance, right? Wrong. I only hit second plat that night.

I had stayed up that night, due to dosing around 6:30 pm. Hardly any visuals aside from the usual fatigue-induced amoeba looking things, and not being able to read a digital clock for shit. I went on with my usual friday, and smoked a bowl with kief, and a big bowl of dank later that afternoon. I crashed around 7, and slept until 2 am.

I woke up, smoked a little, and played nazi zombies and rested until about 4, when I put on Massive Attack's Mezzanine, courtesy of >>242990. This was the musical breakthrough I had been looking for for months prior to these events. You see, my library was becoming stale, but I'm very picky when it comes to music, sadly.

Why is this relevant? My brain corresponds that album with this board, with dxm as a result of the post. I listened to Mezzanine 3 times in a row, laying there practically sleeping, but still conscious, but I was getting slight visuals! Finally, something. They took the form of swirling sha…
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Hugh Borrywudge - Sat, 18 May 2013 21:59:53 EST ID:kRRKLcNU No.243289 Ignore Report Quick Reply
For anyone wondering, I intend to stop my OTC abuse as of now, because this shit is just fucking me up too much. My brain is fried, I'm discoordinated, numbed physically and mentally, emotionally turbulent, exhausted as hell but that's probably from the lack of sleep. And when I say an addictive personality, I mean both my parents and their parents were alcoholics, coupled with fairly bad depression on my dads side.
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Nigel Bunridge - Sat, 18 May 2013 23:19:53 EST ID:oTMg5tAP No.243302 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>243288

Okay, I'm not sure when you drank your white grapefruit juice - you're supposed to start earlier in the day, I think, and not right before the trip. I don't think your tolerance should be that much of an issue, given that you say you've dexed four times in the last two months. I'm not sure when the 'cityscapes' and so forth tend to kick in for people, but I would guess a high third plat at a minimum, more likely a full fourth. Hopefully someone has been there and can place it a little more accurately. I just never wanted to take that much (but I did experience significant visuals at a relatively low third plat).

Weight might have something to do with it. If you're much above, say, 160, don't expect to hit a 4th at 1080mg. With large doses, though, you can split them up by about an hour - half now, half later, or whatever - because DXM potentiates itself with the right timing (enzyme inhibition by metabolites of the first dose).

You want to be in a completely dark room and just lay there with closed eyes for the best visuals. In the unlikely event you've got something exotic, like a sensory dep chamber, even better. A ganzfeld might also work - not sure there.

DXM seems to elicit histamine release - "robo itch" - and you don't seem too affected, but that could be your issue. DPH nullifies those effects (as it is an antihistamine), so if it's only your last couple of trips you've gone without DPH, there's your answer.

The other dissociatives are generally much lighter on the body than DXM, at least in the short term (long-term K users can develop bladder issues, etc). Listen to your body - if you feel fried, let it recover (and I assure you, it will). You know that, of course - but if you intend to stop, per your last post, what's this all about?

About all I can come up with atm - good luck
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Nigel Bunridge - Sat, 18 May 2013 23:22:04 EST ID:oTMg5tAP No.243304 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>243302
>DXM seems to elicit histamine release - "robo itch" - and you don't seem too affected, but that could be your issue.

In reference to the eyes.
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Faggy Fanderwitch - Sat, 18 May 2013 23:31:24 EST ID:kIqgT3as No.243306 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yeaaahh it's time to stop dexxing for you, OP. And especially DPH also; that's much worse. You really need to learn to stop your addictive personality. You aren't going to be an 18-year-old senior forever.


/dis/ music by Molly Nuffingstone - Thu, 16 May 2013 02:02:57 EST ID:Kk3kbxx+ No.242990 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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ITT: albums that are /dis/ as fuck.
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Ernest Congerworth - Sat, 18 May 2013 11:06:48 EST ID:23iKPaRD No.243243 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbhO7rsnAz0
Cheerleader by Grizzly Bear is my favorite /dis/ song :3
the album art and music is just so /dis/ to me

but i think im a little biased because colbert literally called them "the beach boys on cough syrup"
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Crow Anderson - Sat, 18 May 2013 11:33:56 EST ID:YP4eS86f No.243251 Ignore Report Quick Reply
These guys remind me of k on acid

https://soundcloud.com/billy-captaindeepspacemanship-chrobak/for-ayko-and-kitty
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Martha Blobblelat - Sat, 18 May 2013 18:59:32 EST ID:gChycT2K No.243271 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>243201
Post more things like this or more things you like
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Shit Boggleshit - Sat, 18 May 2013 19:36:23 EST ID:gGHem7AF No.243275 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>242990
This has become my most favorite album. I would call it ambient/psychedelic/downtempo in genre. It's a free download from bandcamp as well: http://zoungla.bandcamp.com/

(Note: I would begin playing this album just as you are coming up. Once the song "Release" comes on, I think you'll be feeling this album. Enjoy!)
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Nigel Bunridge - Sat, 18 May 2013 23:26:31 EST ID:oTMg5tAP No.243305 Ignore Report Quick Reply
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_cfkEiA9Jo


The Dangers of Dissociative Drugs by Luxinbuts, Fuxinsluts - Sat, 18 May 2013 23:06:17 EST ID:ihFUjVtT No.243300 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Today I'd like to discuss a topic which is rarely discussed here on /dis/, but considering how dissociative drugs are the most commonly and habitually used hallucinogenic drugs, I think it's an important topic to discuss, mainly to promote harm-reduction in the use of them. Most people who exercise favoritism in these drug classes are usually educated enough to read literature showing how they are the safest drugs to use in a physical sense, but because dissociative drugs have a slower tolerance build than psychedelic or empathogenic hallucinogens (LSD, MDMA, etc), people could possibly be exposing themselves to neurotoxic behaviors that would often go unnoticed.

My main concern comes from Olney's Lesions. I'm sure many are aware of what they are, and I'm sure the most common argument disregarding there legitimacy as a threat would be that the studies which define them were performed on rats. Well, I was looking for information concerning Ketamine and drug tests the other day, and stumbled upon advice from a medical student/doctor who had to perform an autopsy, viewing the brain of a deceased ketamine addict. In this autopsy he apparently observed Olney's Lesions.

This made me research more into it, which made me start to find resolution, as well as concerns. What I learned is that the most logical speculation concerning why they appeared in rats came from the understanding that rats brains metabolize and break down NMDA receptor antagonists much quicker than humans or primates, which I take as meaning they actually process larger amounts of it upon administration, exposing them to the drugs neurotoxic properties on a larger scale. Another thing I learned is that these lesions seem to repair themselves if the exposure to the drug ceases.

What I wonder is this:
I know when I use /dis/, I tend to use larger amounts than average, typically much more frequently in a night and overall recreationally than I do serotonergic hallucinogens. So by consuming larger amounts, am I exposing myself to a large enough quantity of these drugs to create a more equivalent ratio to that of which rats do when introduced to the substances? And by repeating these larger doses, and elevating …
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Faggy Fanderwitch - Sat, 18 May 2013 23:15:48 EST ID:kIqgT3as No.243301 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>243300
>dissociative drugs are the most commonly and habitually used hallucinogenic drugs
>>>/mdma/
>>>/weed/
>Olney's Lesions
lel
>monitor our use
top lel

I appreciate you typing out a long and thorough post, but you could have just asked "Hey guys, will I get Olney's lesions?" to which you already know we'll say "No; chug more syrup."


WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO by Acaelusssssss - Sat, 18 May 2013 22:30:54 EST ID:cBt6xPg3 No.243294 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Im on Xanax and Dxm and im straguht baller right now buffdsa ♥♥1☺112x◙


Lets have a PARTY THRTEAD!
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Acaelusssssss - Sat, 18 May 2013 22:32:34 EST ID:cBt6xPg3 No.243296 Ignore Report Quick Reply
you gcan only post in this thread if your really gukred up
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Augustus Snoddock - Sat, 18 May 2013 22:48:12 EST ID:aIMAesqg No.243297 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>243294
sober for at least another week then goin 1416mg dxm


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