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BWD by Sophie Buzzleridge - Thu, 08 Jun 2017 20:38:48 EST ID:Wf414xHT No.354531 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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520MG of DXM down the hatch

BWD lads and ladesses
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Archie Blackway - Fri, 09 Jun 2017 01:11:13 EST ID:mDhsLGpv No.354534 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Ah! Just the thradd I was looking for... One 4oz bottle of CVS brand cough syrup has been invested in four gulps split over the course of one hour.

Have not done anything but weed and alcohol for a few months and this shit is slowly getting real. Blessed bumps, brethren and keep them vibes positive.
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Samuel Gendlenodge - Sun, 11 Jun 2017 18:11:42 EST ID:Wf414xHT No.354581 Ignore Report Quick Reply
oh shit I was so dissed I missed the other thread haha my bad

nb


MDMA + 2cb + ketamine? by Sidney Somblewill - Sun, 04 Jun 2017 16:09:47 EST ID:WfjEsPMv No.354468 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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hey guys I plan on doing this shit soon. I know some of you have done this already, whats been your experience?
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Emma Dribbleford - Wed, 07 Jun 2017 06:55:02 EST ID:pDfk6u6L No.354514 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354483
Yeah I would also dose differently than you proposed earlier. Though it is your experience and by all means, do what you feels right <3

Do you have any experience with arylcyclohexylamines? If not I recommend you acquaint yourself with your ketamine before you try any drug combos. Like at least two trips with just ketamine if you havent any dissociative experience. If you have done DXM you should know what to expect.

Anyway, if it were me I would go all in and take all the drugs at the same time, then redose ketamine as I saw fit. My favorite drug experience was with 6-APB, 25i and MXE all at the same time. Fucking ridiculous man. But I had lots of experience with each individual drug before I tried that combo, so I wasn't overwhelmed or surprised by the experience at all, I basically knew what to expect.

But yeah happy trails man :]
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Emma Mozzlemedge - Wed, 07 Jun 2017 12:15:16 EST ID:xahQwwVt No.354517 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354514

Most people online seem to agree that 2cb should be take. On the comedown of mdma for the best effects, thats why id say take the 2cb as the mdma peaks or just as the peak starts to fade. That should leave you a good amount of mdma in your system but also leave you with 2cb on comedown per the recommendation of shulgin himself and many others online. I'm sure the combo of all 3 would be a blast but it seems most people prefer their 2cb after the mdma, and since ketamine comes up in just a couple mins he should snort that as the 2cb peaks. That leaves with with mdma comedown effects, 2cb peak effects, and ketamine peak effects.
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Charles Pickhall - Thu, 08 Jun 2017 02:31:16 EST ID:WfjEsPMv No.354528 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>354514
>Yeah I would also dose differently than you proposed earlier. Though it is your experience and by all means, do what you feels right <3

thanks bro <3

>Do you have any experience with arylcyclohexylamines? If not I recommend you acquaint yourself with your ketamine before you try any drug combos. Like at least two trips with just ketamine if you havent any dissociative experience. If you have done DXM you should know what to expect.

Yeah only /dis/ I've done is DXM and I've gone up to the third plateau. It is supposedly similar so I'm ready for a surprise. I really want to try ketamine for the first time on this combo. I'm ready to feel massively fucked up, even outside of my comfort zone. I don't want to khole tho lol.

>Anyway, if it were me I would go all in and take all the drugs at the same time, then redose ketamine as I saw fit. My favorite drug experience was with 6-APB, 25i and MXE all at the same time. Fucking ridiculous man.

ha that sounds pretty intense. now that I think of it thats a pretty novel combo, I doubt there's too many trip reports of that shit online. which differences you noted from doing the classic lineup? (mdma, LSD, ket)

>>354517

your plan sounds way too good. I like how you think. I'll have myself a stopwatch ready to dose all the stuff at the right time.
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Charlotte Fanshit - Thu, 08 Jun 2017 05:54:09 EST ID:xahQwwVt No.354530 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354528

in that case here, dose your mdma and take the 2cb 2 hours later then snort your ketamine an hour and a half after that. Leave some ketamine for bumps. pre measure all your ketamine doses before hand. for a first timer I'd say weigh out 4 20mg lines and start with just 2 and dose the other two as needed. careful though, do it all at once and you could be nearing a hole dose (thats typically 100-200mg) so start with 2 and see how you feel, if you want more then take another, if you want to redose to keep shit going after an hour or so then you'll have that too. I dont do ketamine (not lucky enough to get it) or mdma myself so this is based on just a simple look on erowid, but I know my drug combos and all the timings should hit the peak of each.

Let us all know how it goes! You could also just do it by feel if you wanted to, but if you want timing then there you go. Have fun and report back on your experience. I'll be really interested.
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Frederick Picklock - Sat, 10 Jun 2017 00:27:20 EST ID:WfjEsPMv No.354554 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354530
thank you for the advice friend, I'll come back and you'll know its me. might take a while tho.


giveett by Samuel Fovingfield - Wed, 07 Jun 2017 19:46:37 EST ID:V7aCi2As No.354518 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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legal dissociatives?
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Ian Grandbury - Wed, 07 Jun 2017 20:58:16 EST ID:nNr2tDO0 No.354521 Ignore Report Quick Reply
DXM is legal
there are plenty of semi-legal and easily accessible ones
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Cornelius Miblingcocke - Wed, 07 Jun 2017 21:28:51 EST ID:UXXDkHSJ No.354523 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354521
care to colaborate
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Cornelius Miblingcocke - Wed, 07 Jun 2017 21:29:31 EST ID:UXXDkHSJ No.354524 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354523
care to elaborate
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Fanny Grimspear - Thu, 08 Jun 2017 01:19:30 EST ID:VBrfDvI4 No.354526 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354524

They probably mean go to the store and buy a bottle of cough syrup, or how in the US it is not illegal to own or buy dxm and you can literally buy dxm powder legally inside the US.
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Fanny Grimspear - Thu, 08 Jun 2017 01:20:56 EST ID:VBrfDvI4 No.354527 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354524

Oh, but about the semi legal knew they probably mean gray area research chems. I suggest looking it up. This place doesn't get enough traffic anyways to warrant asking questions that could just be answered on Google.


memantine general thread by Walter Crannerbine - Fri, 02 Jun 2017 22:34:14 EST ID:xahQwwVt No.354441 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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this is a thread devoted to memantine, the newest novelty dissociative that is becoming popular. I just popped 75mg myself.

it is a noncompetative antagonist of the nmda, a dopamine agonist, 5-ht3 antagonist (meaning it is anti nauseant) a nicotonic choline receptor, and a small amount, likely negligible, sigma agonist. it is stimulating, very schizophrenic, not very manic, confusing, and very different from other dissociatives. its very nice for chill out trips. because of the stimulation its not really good for holing or anything but I hear its possible. lets get some discovery on this chemical.

I'll be posting a few more responses with my discoveries. I bought 5g pure powder and have been using it pretty frequently. beautiful chemical
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Walter Crannerbine - Fri, 02 Jun 2017 22:48:32 EST ID:xahQwwVt No.354442 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354441

PRO TIPs:
>> If you plan to get this chem go buy cranberry extract with vitamin c and e and also get vitamin C pills. take one of each and it'll help you excrete the memantine quicker which will lessen the trip duration.

>>weed is a must for this drug just like for dxm, but perhaps more so. using this drug and looking into non competative nmda antagonists like dxm (compared to dxo) and memantine has lead me to believe that weed somehow triggers the nmda binding of the noncompetative antagonists. weed acts as a indirect nmda antagonist so perhaps this means something? in any case, weed triggers this drug into overdrive

>> weed needs to be consumed slowly because it can make blood pressure and heart rate go up and this drug is already stimulating. it can cause some anxiety due to this. I dont believe it is likely to cause any life threatening issues unless you have a heart issue in which you shouldnt be using stimulants in the first place.

>> this drug is very schizophrenic. when I am on it everything in me screams "this is schizophrenia in a pill!" . It is so much this way to me that I feel it should be used in higher doses to study schizophrenia, or perhaps a noncompetative antagonist based on memantine or some amantedine chemical. noncompetatives seem to be a much better representation than the uncompetatives that have been used.

>> it makes me confused at times due to the nACH antagonism. it makes me forget certain things or have trouble thinking about things. it makes me have a short term focus and really amplifies my adhd. it also slows and hampers memory recall.
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Walter Crannerbine - Sat, 03 Jun 2017 01:50:45 EST ID:xahQwwVt No.354445 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354442

for my second bullet I meant uncompetative. ketamine, pcp, and mk801 are all noncompetitive. memantine is essentially a longer lasting pcp that act uncompetative at the nmda receptor rather than noncompetitive, and with the added bonus of 5-ht3 antagonism to help with nausea. there is differences between these drugs in how they act on the receptors, but they both act on all the same receptors except for memenatine which has the bonus 5ht3 antagonism.
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Archie Blogglenire - Sat, 03 Jun 2017 06:12:04 EST ID:17mpXOUw No.354451 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354441
Just don't end up like the lil nigga who made a thread about he popped hella memantine and an assortment of various other drugs and made many updates and then all the sudden stopped replying and everyone thought he died.
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Clara Smallbanks - Sat, 03 Jun 2017 23:09:58 EST ID:xahQwwVt No.354460 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354451

god no. memantine is actually very nice and at the doses I've been doing it is very forgiving. it can make your whole body have vibrations and pulsating energy. it is quite a lovely and blissful experience for the most part. done with the right dose, an experienced tripper should have no issue handling this experience. a newer tripper will be in for a ride though, and a 12-16hour drug experience is not exactly a good first drug experience if it goes south fast for any reason. I used to trip for days on end anyway though, so I know how to handle my shit for those extended stays in disso land.

few more trips:
>>the come up is long. at least 2 hours until noticable tingles and 3 hours before the drug really starts taking off. peak is around 4-6hours in. comedown depends on acidity of urine and how many redoses you took. with a single dosage without any redoses its 12-16hours. I have only had one weekend where I redosed it a bunch, but after copious redoses those numbers seem to be more like 18-26hours until complete comdown.

>>the cevs can be amazing on this drug, but the energy will make you want to be active. you need to try and take advantage of the cevs sometime. you likely wont fall into the hole, but you'll have your head pretty far down it. the stimulation just makes it a little hard to fall in deep, but the visuals are still very stunning. check them out sometime

>> be careful for about 36-48 hours after comedown with any other drugs because the trip only lasts so long, but the drug will stay in system for much longer than the trip, and memantine (as well as dissociatives in general but I make a case with this one because of duration) lower tolerance to other drugs like stimulants and opiates and even other hollucinogens. if you trip on something else in that time frame it could also bring back a little memantine.

>> if you want to be tripping by 11pm to midnight you need to dose by like 7 or 8pm and be ready to feel tingles in 2 hours. gotta get an early start with this drug. earlier than youd assume. siblingual knocks off maybe 30mins until the come up and peak, and it adds more stimulation, but its not exactly necessary.

>>I find …
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Reuben Blythedale - Tue, 06 Jun 2017 23:02:35 EST ID:FCsxyGwb No.354505 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Funny. My experience with Memantine is so absolutely different than yours. But I think that may have to do with tolerance. When I took it up to 200mg I started to get effects much closer to what you're describing. My standard dose was 100mg, and that was always calm and easy.

First of all: what I disagree with
> the come up is long. at least 2 hours until noticable tingles and 3 hours before the drug really starts taking off. peak is around 4-6hours in.
Not at all IME. The come-up is long, but not that long. I get first alerts at 1 hour, real feelings at 2 hrs and peaking by t+3:00.
Then
> 18-26hours until complete comdown.
So much more. I would start the slightest come-down after 10-12 hours of peaking (t+13:00 -t+15:00), then wake up the next day still tripping. And continue coming down all the next day until like t+36:00. And that's with a single dose.
> Stimulating
Not until much higher doses, but perhaps without tolerance 75mg would do it.
> schizophrenic, not very manic, confusing
Again, really not. For me it was one of the most buttery smooth dissociatives I've ever done. I got calm wavy OEVs, slightly colorful, almost like Mushrooms. And the headspace was very dreamy. I guess when I took the dose up to 200mg it was pretty confusing, although I wouldn't call it schizophrenic, not only because I can't ever know what schizophrenia is actually like myself.
> it makes me have a short term focus and really amplifies my adhd. it also slows and hampers memory recall.
Again, at 200mg it did this, but at lower doses I never got this effect. Everything was so calm and dreamy, I could focus on anything I wanted to because nothing else was bothering me.
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DXM + SSRI by Lillian Pickleforth - Tue, 06 Jun 2017 15:15:34 EST ID:sRQlO5os No.354496 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Currently i'm taking 15mg of escitalopram per day, which is a strong SSRI medication. I know that DXM also acts as serotonin reuptake inhibitor. If i want to trip on DXM, i have to wait until my doctor takes me off my medication, am i right?
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Wesley Smallwater - Tue, 06 Jun 2017 15:54:14 EST ID:w+Jk9zlv No.354497 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354496
Well, you've already looked in to it enough to know that it's medically not advised, so I can only assume you've come here wanting to hear that it's fine. I've tried that combination and had no issues, as have many others. Generally combining 2 reuptake inhibitors isn't a great risk for SS compared to a reuptake inhibitor and a releaser or either of those and an MAOI.


ON DAT MEOWSTICK by Phineas Cushwune - Fri, 02 Jun 2017 14:37:59 EST ID:Cycw466I No.354427 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So, if you can throw PCP in some water, dip a cig in it, let it dry...

And since 3meo is water soluble...

Could you do the same thing or am I missing something here?
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Phoebe Buddlenatch - Fri, 02 Jun 2017 15:57:33 EST ID:wOJo7uVw No.354428 Ignore Report Quick Reply
all i know is that it doesnt work and that i dont feel like figuring out why
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Archie Blogglenire - Sat, 03 Jun 2017 06:25:53 EST ID:17mpXOUw No.354452 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354427
You must combine the 3MEO with baking soda at a 4:1 PCP:baking soda ratio. Then add just barely enough water to make a sludgy consistence solution, stir. Then apply heat with a lighter or whatever flame until it bubbles up and kinda dries out but don't overcook it. Should take like 10 seconds. Then you can apply direct heat to that and it will begin to smoke, inhale that shit because that is the drug. Hold it in as long as you can. You will feel the effects instantly. The dose is probly around 5mg-15mg range for an experienced user. This is converting the PCP Hcl into freebase. If you die doing this its because youre an idiot and you took my advice as 100% safe without doing your own research like I di. ALSO: This method works a lot better with O-PCE. That drug provides a better high when smoked.
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Wesley Nessleforth - Mon, 05 Jun 2017 20:33:23 EST ID:nNr2tDO0 No.354487 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354452
>This method works a lot better with O-PCE. That drug provides a better high when smoked.

Can you expand on the difference of effects of O-PCE vaped vs other ROA


Dissociative Delusions by Hugh Sottingwater - Thu, 01 Jun 2017 02:30:12 EST ID:rBBI3e+v No.354402 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I started this thread a couple months ago and it got a lot of replies so let's do this again. I've only ever DXM but I've had a lot of intense experiences on it. Just to start off with two:

>DXM allows you to communicate with animals
>I was once a lonely part in the system of a bird's digestive tract. It was pretty unnerving at the time
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Fucking Snodhall - Fri, 02 Jun 2017 09:15:46 EST ID:4E5fOh7V No.354421 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dxm makes me a giant upsidedown robot statue that's protecting my home
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Priscilla Honeybanks - Sat, 03 Jun 2017 16:22:50 EST ID:RU4rcQ9B No.354457 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>354402
I completely recallibrated my brain (or fried it, whatever) after doing 3meo for two days in a row and then throwing xanax, weed, and N20 ontop of it last night. There was one point where everythig was just literally vibrations. I watched my psyche circle the entire globe as it battled against the negative side of itself, and for the first time I felt like I held the line against the enemy so to speak. There was a gigantic WWI-style battle, and a glorious victory as I discovered that conscious life, unconscious states (sleep) are all just circular and layered in order...

Whatever. I was tripping major fucking ass. I actually thought I might die or come out with brain damage or something. Still kinda trippin now but I know what is what and I felt like I conquered something inside myself that desperately needed addressed... all of this at a party that I was nearly fully functional and responsive for, but my mind was in deep battle with its own self perception...
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Priscilla Honeybanks - Sat, 03 Jun 2017 16:31:51 EST ID:RU4rcQ9B No.354458 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354457

I discovered that conscious life, unconscious states (sleep), and death are all just circular and layered in order... *

Is what I meant to say.

By far the most hardcore and successful yet exhausting trip I have had on any drugs in my life so far.
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Clara Brummlefere - Sun, 04 Jun 2017 03:41:06 EST ID:WAkYssDf No.354461 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I've definitely had some paranoid psychosis from over-doing it and/or using with little to no sleep.. It was typical gang stalking and auditory distortion like shit, but it would go away when I'd pass out and sleep it off. Though, I had one interesting experience that stands out from anything I'd ever experienced before, on any substance.

I'd used DXM multiple times a week for this entire month during the experience, all the while meditating during each trip. I was reading into spiritual channeling here and there over recent months and though "why the fuck not? Let's give it a go!" I was getting to some far out head spaces during meditation, but it wasn't until this specific night that I broke through and "made contact" with the spirit of someone that'd I'd been reaching out to for around 2 months, even more so during this month. They communicated in emotions, imagery, nonsensical vocalizations and "soupy" music audio relating to them. Basically, it was psychic. I could understand everything that they were getting through to me. Sometimes it would be clear words and sentences, but mostly it was intuition and spiritual empathy.. That's the best way I can describe it.. Eventually, after we "chatted" and they took me through trips into memories as vivid and as long as the initial experiences in those memories, I signed off. It was mind-blowing, to say the least, and I felt a blissful, incredible sense of loving and understanding, and felt so in tune with my surroundings and myself the entire time. I was perfectly balanced emotionally and mentally. I'd never had this happen on DXM, or any other drug before. It was the best feeling I'd ever felt.

I was meditating the entire time, sitting on my floor.. I spent around 4 hours doing so.. I came out of it thinking "Wow, I've really lost it this time.. Underlying schizophrenia has been unlocked!" I was sure it was a delusion and nothing but psychosis..

That is, until I was around my family the next morning, around an hour or so after. I had came down already and was drinking some coffee in the living room with my mom, both of us sitting silently and reading things…
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Shitting Dartford - Sun, 04 Jun 2017 07:29:35 EST ID:IqgnmU+/ No.354463 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Playing Mario Kart with my friend 'Dennis'
>Suddenly knew that as soon as we stopped playing and I put my controller down Dennis was going to pull a gun on me.
>Received extremely detailed and convoluted background knowledge explaining why this was going to happen which all made total sense at the time
>ask "what happened?" and receive an answer something like "try not to think too much about it" - clearly confirmation he was going to kill me after the race was finished
>I'vegottatakethiscuntdown.jpg

I thought that I was losing time, that I'd been doing things I couldn't remember. Both in the short and longer term. Short term (15 to 30 minutes ago to my reckoning)- I thought that Dennis and my housemate Tony had tricked me in to having sex with them in front of the open window where the neighbours could see. They had wanted the neighbours to see in order to humiliate me. I think that added to my distrust of Dennis. Longer term (my whole fucking life) - I became convinced that I had, and had always had, an alter ego whose actions I could not remember, and who had been using 'me' as part of his plans.

At the time I knew that Dennis was in a bikie gang and that I'd been cooking meth for them. Why else would I have been studying pharmacy but to learn to cook better meth for Dennis and his gang? It all made sense now! Why else would I have seen Fight Club so many times but never remembered it? Obviously my alter ego could not allow me to remember and process the plot of that movie in case it triggered recognition. I must have known this day was coming, why else would I have studied martial arts but in order to to be able to take oldmate down before he could get to his gun? It all made sense, I made sense, my whole life, everything had been leading up to this point.

On some level I must have known that I was on drugs because though it took a LOT of effort I managed not to violently attack my friend before he could get his nonexistent gun out. Instead I went and locked myself in my room for a while. Even though I knew this was all delusion I still started bolting the door to my room for the next week or more (Dennis was staying…
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Emerald Teacup by Nell Handermet - Fri, 02 Jun 2017 20:14:36 EST ID:XOluFoEH No.354436 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I had
forgotten
that i had
forgotten
that i had
forgotten
that i had
forgotten
the entice
ing icing?

Lo and,
Be-Hold,
the DXM
erald ? ?
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Martin Honeybury - Sat, 03 Jun 2017 00:26:13 EST ID:c877Fw88 No.354443 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>354436
Did you steal my emeralds??


What is the K-hole? by Doris Dallersog - Fri, 02 Jun 2017 14:00:41 EST ID:BKDcy69G No.354426 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I've tried Ket 5 times, and K-holed 3 of the times. I still don't understand what the fuck was going on. I usually did it a couple of hours before bed and a had a couple of benzos to help kill the comedown and put me to sleep afterwards.

I mean, just what the fuck happens? I'm somewhat experienced in /psy/, but K is my first /dis/. I heard of such amazing things that can happen in a K-hole, and they reminded me of /psy/ experiences but different. On /psy/s I get crazy CEVs, fractals, digital looking beautiful artwork of infinite detail, patterns moving in and out (with both my eyes closed and open), music sounds amazing, and it feels like every inch of my body is having an orgasm. I am very aware of myself and think a lot.

Every time I've K-holed (not gonna talk about sub-k hole dosage, those weren't really anything special) I basically lose control of my outer functions and pass out into a deep yet somewhat functioning coma where most of the time I can't make sense of anything at all. There isn't much thinking, mostly just feeling. It makes me feel like I'm just another entity, a small connection on the map of the human consciousness, but I don't even remember if I know who I am when I'm holing. Like I know I'm on drugs but it gets so hard to recall who I am and my life, I have such intense out of body visions that make me feel like I'm in a different place completely, different room, different house, different person. For these reasons I do not think I have experienced ego death on K, or if I have it was only for a little bit and it was hard to recall. But I guess why I am here posting this now is because I thought K was a very visual drug when you hole. I think it's impossible to feel bad on K because it tranquilizes you, so it doesn't really scare me, but I get some visuals but they are not so much the stuff you see on psychs, but just random shit that was lodged in my memory that day.

What does /dis/ think? Is K just not for me? Should I try a larger dose? (I did 1mg/lb) + another like 30mg line each time I k-holed. I hear combining /dis/ on /psy/ is awesome, plan on tripping in a few days alone, would you guys recommend I trip and do like a…
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Henry Domblehock - Fri, 02 Jun 2017 17:32:09 EST ID:la5626J9 No.354433 Ignore Report Quick Reply
if you want visuals you mix with psys. dissos aint about the visuals, though you get some cool stuff at really high doses. but psy + disso visuals are the best ive ever had. but thats a solid hole dose of dissos mixed with the psys. what i recommend doing is a half dose coming up timed so it wears off right when you start peaking, then decide whether to snort the same amount, snort a full hole dose, or go the trip without dissos. cause you cant really tell which you're up for until you're tripping and have felt how dissos affected you that trip and you can see if you still want it.
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Henry Domblehock - Fri, 02 Jun 2017 17:47:38 EST ID:la5626J9 No.354434 Ignore Report Quick Reply
also everything you said about k was true and you did a great job of describing the effects. cept you can have a bad time on it, although i havent had a single one in hundreds of uses, but ive seen it happen. but you seem to be looking at those effects with a different view than me, cause a lot of the stuff you seem to be talking about negatively i'm fine with. perhaps you should try it again and just accept everything, and focus on the feeling. my thoughts while holing are usually just reflections on whatever i'm seeing or feeling, or the reasons for why i'm feeling or seeing what i am. visuals are very often what you've done that day, but I take this as a time to reflect back on my day and how ive been spending my brain activity (when i start seeing video game UIs and characters I know I've been wasting too much time playing vidya) so idk you might just not like it, but id say if you can at least appreciate the feelings of it and can ignore what youre calling the confusion a bit it would probably be fun to try on psys to see how that goes. but i bet it would be extremely confusing, as youd be confused from acid so doubly confused with both
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Henry Domblehock - Fri, 02 Jun 2017 17:51:39 EST ID:la5626J9 No.354435 Ignore Report Quick Reply
actually about confusion, i did get confusion sometimes when i took way too much 3meopcp and wasnt holing. the kind of state where you say i'm confused every couple minutes. if thats what youre talking about i think its what happens when you arent getting into the trip very well/going with the flow, and id recommend taking lower doses of ketamine, either a low hole dose or sub-hole, whatever's more enjoyable and not confusing, until you get used to the headspace, then when you are in the confused state you hopefully can shut your brain up and just hole, cause i figure the state is what happens when youre too fucked up to do anything but hole and relax and not question whats happening to you, but you're not doing all of them.


Old veteran returning by Beatrice Fumblepedge - Tue, 30 May 2017 12:25:31 EST ID:Cycw466I No.354347 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Hey guys, so I'm extremely experienced with /dis/. MXE, Ketamine, DXM, Deschloroketamine, N2O...

Anyway, I just recently put down heroin after a long binge of shooting the shit. Trying to stop buying other opiods because I just can't afford it any more. They're my absolute favorite but I can't even get high on $100 of oxys anymore so what's the fucking point?

Well the fucking point is I have a gram of 3-MEO-PCP. So until I can get over the desire to get high on something on almost a daily basis... I keep reading online about it but people's descriptions are woefully lacking in detail. What exactly is this manic component I keep hearing about? Could some of you detail your experiences with this drug for me?

Also I do not have a scale that will accurately measure such low doses. So, is it possible to eyeball this shit? And excluding IM/IV/Plugging, what is the best RoA?

Now, I also take 75mg of welbutrin twice daily. I've never had an issue with that interacting with anything else (other than DXM). Anybody have any clue if I would have an issue with taking 3-MeO ontop of my regularly scheduled programming?
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Phineas Cushwune - Fri, 02 Jun 2017 13:42:29 EST ID:Cycw466I No.354424 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354397
Also

>Asks for advice

>Receives sound, experienced advice in abundance

>Disregards all given advice and dips the bag anyway

Isn't that at least 50% of us? I mean... Cmon man... ; ^ )
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Nathaniel Hullernan - Fri, 02 Jun 2017 16:20:20 EST ID:y34zTFcp No.354429 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354424

This is why i dont go the "YOU CANT DO IT WITHOUT A SCALE" route, because i know people just want to do their fucking drugs, thats why i said "do bumps the size of the tip of a sharpened pencil, the size of the lead at the tip" because if they just do that, amd at most do only three of those, then they will keep their dosage between 15-20mg, which is much better than what op decided to do (fingerprint which could be anywhere from 15-40mg. I know it sounds like im giving bad advicr, but its better they at least do what i said than go through the bag fingerprinting, which also adds contaminants and germs to the whole product which eventually will likely enter their nose, ass, or even veins.
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Henry Domblehock - Fri, 02 Jun 2017 16:51:34 EST ID:la5626J9 No.354430 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354379
fucking idiot

>>354380
sometimes its really good for introspection, if you get in a manic/crazy state youll sometimes get false introspection though were the introspection leads you to stupid delusional conclusions.

for me i never used to get mania with 3meopcp so it was always good for introspection but after abusing it too much i started getting nothing but mania, so its pretty useless for introspection now.
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Henry Domblehock - Fri, 02 Jun 2017 16:56:45 EST ID:la5626J9 No.354431 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354424
i seriously hope most people on this site arent suicidal and as such use a scale.

though i suppose eyeballing 3meopcp is very safe compared to a lot of compounds, but still, getting into the habit of eyeballing is a deathwish. it takes me 15 seconds to weigh my doses, i keep my scale right next to my drugs and I've got a backup scale too.

if youre going somewhere else, just pre-measure your doses into capsules.
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Henry Domblehock - Fri, 02 Jun 2017 17:01:11 EST ID:la5626J9 No.354432 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354431
by safe i mean the drug itself wont cause you harm but overdosing is still very much not safe, i almost died choking from being too high on 3meopcp to chew once although that's just extreme bad luck. but there's the whole run around in the streets naked pcp thing of totally losing your shit which will never happen if you dose responsibly but I could see happening to someone who is new and eyeballing and accidentally ODs.


PCP by Phoebe Hopperbanks - Wed, 24 May 2017 06:14:42 EST ID:v5BVCqmL No.354240 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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has anybody else here actually used it before? It's truly the holy grail of dissociatives
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Phyllis Sonningford - Sun, 28 May 2017 18:31:48 EST ID:wL479jFq No.354309 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354305
yo i just said it was silly, calm down friend
>whats silly is letting your own opinion get tangled into these things
exactly! that's why i'm not saying that one of them is better! just that i like one of them more! for the record? the one i like more is MXE. (which i've probably done like 50g of over the years haha, i long for the days it was more available. but i also long for more PCP)
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Eugene Gacklebitch - Tue, 30 May 2017 14:18:56 EST ID:qnBB6zho No.354353 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354240
i know it's different but i recently got some 3 meo PCP and it's one of the best drugs i0ve ever had (i've had more than 50 different chems), 100% the best dissociative
i furucking loooooooooooooooooooove ittttttttttttttttttttttttttttqwe4atq35t34tq34tq34trqwet
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Fanny Lightfield - Tue, 30 May 2017 17:25:29 EST ID:u6KRpsAC No.354365 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Why not just use Ketamine? It's the same shit except it's way easier to get.
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Archie Blombledock - Tue, 30 May 2017 20:55:54 EST ID:rXQYCkyc No.354378 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>354365
:)
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Phineas Cushwune - Fri, 02 Jun 2017 13:46:00 EST ID:Cycw466I No.354425 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>354365
Ketamine was extremely hard to find where I live until very recently, now it's every where... Although that's partially mine and some friend's fault...

Anyway. Never done PCP, but everytime I do 3meo my mind is like "Yeah this is basically what PCP would feel like." I mean, that's just the feeling I get. Probably just one of those weird things you feel on any dis sometimes, but since it's an analogue...


Infrasigma? by Shit Wecklespear - Thu, 01 Jun 2017 12:04:26 EST ID:FDw4oep4 No.354406 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Could somebody please explain this so called "Infrasigma plateau" that has just recently been discovered?

What are the effects?
How do you dose to achieve infrasigma?
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Shit Wecklespear - Thu, 01 Jun 2017 12:05:16 EST ID:FDw4oep4 No.354407 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>354406
Ahhh. Infrasigma. It's like DXM's secret level, only accessible by breaking through the world geometry (pic related). It basically consists of taking Plat Ø doses of DXM, several times a day, for several days on end. The formula cursive gave me was 30-50ml Delsym (180-300mg DXM polistirex) every 4-8 hours, which ostensibly comes down to a 5oz bottle per day. I reached Infrasigma on day 3, but I was using all sorts of potentiators (Hydroxyzine, DPH) as well as sometimes taking 2Cs (60mg DXM HBr + 8mg CPM) with my shot of Delsym, so I probably sped up the process significantly, as well as added to the perceived effect with such an anticholinergic load at some point probably becoming noticeable on its own. TBD.

Either way it was like reality just started coming apart at the seams. Instead of a standard DXM experience, where I dissociated myself from the world; it was like slowly dissociating the world from itself. Everything was vibrating, as if matter was getting out of sync with itself. The molecular structure of solid objects seemed ready to just burst apart.
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Shit Wecklespear - Thu, 01 Jun 2017 12:05:58 EST ID:FDw4oep4 No.354408 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Fiend !!1C9jE+w+ - Tue, 26 May 2015 23:47:23 EST IyZ631VIJ No.317805 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>317797
Fallen emailed me recently with some really interesting information about DXM metabolism in relation to DXO, MEM and 3-HM, which in turn have uninvestigated set of possible-effects. Hope he pops in to finish his thoughts. This is what he wrote, before dashing off to finish some IRL things:

"This is one of my most favorite topics with DXM because of how intricate
the metabolization process is compared to other substances. Many substances
just have one process: drug comes in, liver enzymes grab it, another drug
comes out. DXM turns into two drugs that then switch their SAME pathways to
produce one different substance. As far as I know, that's not really that
common. Add in the fact that DXM's metabolization is inhibited by one of
the same iso-enzymes that it is a substrate (broken down by) on and you've
got more novelty to the whole equation. Attached to this e-mail is a
diagram I have labeled (A,) go ahead and take a look at it. It will be
familiar to you as I've probably posted it a million times. Now i'd like to
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Shit Wecklespear - Thu, 01 Jun 2017 12:12:23 EST ID:FDw4oep4 No.354409 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>354408
More Fallen: 4. SIGMA THEORY

So! We get to this now finally! Alright, let me start by saying what Sigma
is not: Sigma is NOT another plateau. Sigma is NOT some kind of magic state
where the laws of biology do not apply. Sigma is NOT particularly something
you want to be doing to your body and mind very often. Sigma is NOT
enjoyable by about 50% of the people who experience it! (This is referenced
in the DXM FAQ and agreed upon by most enthusiasts I've talked to on DF,
Dextroverse, and other sites in the community.) Sigma is really, really
simple: It's DXM and nearly ONLY DXM. What I mean by this is that when
you're doing repeated doses of Dextromethorphan you are inhibiting CYP2D6
SO HEAVILY that nearly none of the DXO can be created out of the DXM over
such a long repeated dosing schedule and thusly you end up with almost no
body high and a pure psychedelic, hallucinatory, mind warping experience of
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Shit Wecklespear - Thu, 01 Jun 2017 12:14:48 EST ID:FDw4oep4 No.354410 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>354406
Longer <∑ TR, as promised:

It started out innocently enough. Day 1 was lighthearted, and a little bit silly, but nothing more. By the end of the day I was lightly intoxicated if anything; tipsy perhaps. My nightly 150mg DPH was a little extra trippy in the CEV department. And I fucked like a beast; a little hypomanic perhaps.

The second day was dreamy in the morning. I walked in a cloud, a very pleasant one at that. I was smiling most of the time. But as evening turned to night things started getting funky. Lights were intense– Not bright exactly. It was more like an Instagram filter with the contrast turned way up. Light and shadow, and the lines between them were crisp, and yet almost fluid between each other. The entire ground seemed to have a skin on it, somewhere between carpet and wallpaper, that was made of light and shadow; and it would dislocate itself from the actual ground sometimes, like floating a few mm above the surface, especially in places where there were multiple light sources casting multiple shadows on a single object. My sense of hearing and of smell both seemed to be hyperactive. The fog had cleared and was replaced by a kind of— cock-eyed– ness. Everything was just so slightly off kilter; like instead of the standard DXM liliputian hallucinations, it was more like perspective had been fucked a little, so that lines didn’t exactly converge the way they were supposed to– I suppose. I had sex in the middle of the day, but by night-time, even with the aphrodisiac effects of my DPH, my dick was broken, not to return until 20odd hours after my final dose.

The 3rd day was when things got really interesting. I woke up in the morning, took my shot of Delsym and my Hydroxyzine and what have you, and it felt like less than an hour and I was in the rolling waves, foothills of <∑. When I say rolling waves, I mean it several ways, long rolling waves like out at sea, pushing across the surface for miles, somehow I was riding them; among them; cursive has several times referred to a “sigma roll” and it makes perfect sense. It was a bit like rolling on MDMA in the just flowing sense, of time being an unstoppable force, wheras dissociation usually destroys time, and time wa…
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Jack Gibbleson - Thu, 01 Jun 2017 16:34:17 EST ID:llPzoK0/ No.354413 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>354406
If you're going to bait at least try to hide your samefagging. Although I'm flattered that you still have my thread saved.


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