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Ketamine Prices in the US by Phineas Claywell - Sat, 29 Apr 2017 12:21:22 EST ID:c4J+autW No.353758 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Does $1400 for an ounce sound about right? Ket is scarce and difficult to find in many parts of the US and you can't buy a gram for 20 quid like the UK. What do you think?
Nell Crozzletuck - Sat, 29 Apr 2017 13:15:48 EST ID:hZrnhZam No.353759 Ignore Report Quick Reply
$75-$100/gram is pretty standard. So $50/gram on discount for semi-bulk (a zip) sounds kind of high in my opinion. K isn't cheap in the U.S., but that's still high.
Then again, I've heard of people selling .1s at concerts/festivals for $15-$20 without much hesitation from customers.
Rebecca Cruddleserk - Sat, 29 Apr 2017 21:05:51 EST ID:ATd9Qsm2 No.353769 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Thanks for the input.
Hamilton Feffingfitch - Sat, 29 Apr 2017 21:09:03 EST ID:/ZNn2PX+ No.353770 Ignore Report Quick Reply
definitely overpriced.
Jack Buppertere - Sun, 30 Apr 2017 21:01:23 EST ID:5mo9WyJt No.353795 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I see it go for 20 all the time but then another guy will say 50. It's weird it's almost as if there's so much less of a market there isn't even really an economy on our level lol
Esther Sangerfut - Mon, 01 May 2017 10:35:05 EST ID:/B8kgda1 No.353808 Ignore Report Quick Reply
1400 for an ounce in the US sounds about right, yes
I know this because I sell ketamine both locally and on the net
Its very expensive as far as drugs go, but its being sold mostly to the molly crowd. It's priced identically, even though ketamine has a shorter duration and is less potent.

I assume prices are much more managable in Europe, and you could actually afford to get addicted to it

DSK trip - preparation by Sophie Cloddlecocke - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 17:21:43 EST ID:Bth8D1uM No.353624 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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How one prepare himself to dissociative trip? I am asking mostly for literature, but you could also post some mind-expanding films, vidya or music. Now i am at reading Descartes, learning french and chemistry. I havent dissed for a good year and best i ever got was DXM. I want that trip to be really profound, demigod mind masturbation shit
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Hamilton Nickleford - Fri, 28 Apr 2017 13:34:23 EST ID:OcRh0oMq No.353742 Ignore Report Quick Reply
you trip off of 300 mg? i go to school on that
Phoebe Sishbury - Sat, 29 Apr 2017 15:19:00 EST ID:C1/+HFs4 No.353762 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Like in terms of books I'd probably go with something like Desert Solitaire by Edward Abbey, if you're of a more pessimistic bent like myself then anything by Thomas Ligotti.
Beatrice Blackford - Sat, 29 Apr 2017 15:47:33 EST ID:uV3N3fQb No.353763 Ignore Report Quick Reply
oh wow hey everybody look
it's mister big dick telling everybody how big and swanky his dissociative tolerance dick is
isn't he a cool kid
Hannah Heblingled - Sat, 29 Apr 2017 17:05:53 EST ID:ojuD6dCK No.353764 Ignore Report Quick Reply
lmao hes bragging about going to school on drugs wtf
Frederick Hesslestun - Sun, 30 Apr 2017 16:15:33 EST ID:GEKjX9rI No.353792 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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How is failing high school going for ya?

Is mxe impossible to get? by Lillian Clayfield - Fri, 28 Apr 2017 12:28:47 EST ID:G1mfEGyJ No.353740 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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sup dis. I'm not a regular here so sorry if this is a stupid question, but is MXE basically impossible to get now? A buddy of mines said he can get it easy as hell a little bit ago and I didn't think anything of it. But lately I keep hearing on /b/ that the main factory that made it exploded and now it's impossible to get or something? Is that right? I wanna know whether he knows what he's talking about or not
Edward Fuffinghood - Fri, 28 Apr 2017 12:36:50 EST ID:FDw4oep4 No.353741 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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it's possible to get some degraded mxe on the darknet, but its purity is really low.

Clearnet you will only get scammed if you find someone selling it.

I call bullshit on your friend.
Henry Hucklewat - Sat, 29 Apr 2017 05:14:43 EST ID:k7qYgmCF No.353754 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I remember when MXE first cam out, got a couple grams that I dabbled in. Still have a gram left in my safe from 2012.
Albert Gommlemotch - Sat, 29 Apr 2017 10:28:20 EST ID:/B8kgda1 No.353757 Ignore Report Quick Reply
mxe is out there, but its very expensive for low quality. I got a gram for $100 that was maybe half as potent as the grams I used to get for $20. I have a feeling that china knew that it was the best drug known to mankind and collectively decided to only keep it for themselves
Henry Navingdale - Sat, 29 Apr 2017 21:38:35 EST ID:6zRTMRFL No.353773 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i call bullshit

Keeping the magic by Ian Fankinlack - Tue, 21 Mar 2017 10:09:45 EST ID:V05YcMo+ No.352839 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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What is the best way to stop disso's from losing their magic?

Also lets say that for example you have abused 3-meo-pcp so it is no longer enjoyable, would this effect carry over to other disassociatives?
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Shit Gorringgold - Tue, 25 Apr 2017 19:54:26 EST ID:3+XEfyrz No.353695 Ignore Report Quick Reply
seeing stuff like this really makes me glad I got the right bottle and drank all of it the first time I tried it. I probably weighed the same amount as that guy, I was pretty fucked up and I had plenty of experience psys at that point already
Fanny Poblingstock - Sat, 29 Apr 2017 03:31:55 EST ID:495oU9No No.353751 Ignore Report Quick Reply
That is the goddamn coolest statue.
Graham Basslehune - Sat, 29 Apr 2017 04:09:05 EST ID:la5626J9 No.353753 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i lost the magic over a year ago but i still have found that i have loads of fun if i space it out a couple weeks. unforunately whenever i do get any i still binge until i run out, but ive been ordering less and less quantities at a time. gives you something to really look forward to through all the bullshit that goes with being sober.
Hannah Darringdadge - Sat, 29 Apr 2017 06:38:03 EST ID:WAkYssDf No.353755 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Dis Rap Thread by Cedric Snodshit - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 11:44:40 EST ID:5MSM4AZg No.353616 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Grant Gustin this weathr? that's really quite grand

chique shrieking macaw,

when I mix my mana with mantra, you're doomed to fail
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Nell Suvingshit - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 04:57:24 EST ID:hL1U4dg0 No.353645 Ignore Report Quick Reply
There's nothing in this thread that even slightly rhymes. Anyone who posts this shit should be IP banned tbh.
Graham Hinkinhat - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 10:46:33 EST ID:FDw4oep4 No.353730 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Hugh Blabblehall - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 21:30:05 EST ID:IqgnmU+/ No.353734 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hah, oh wow. This guy reminds me of Bill Cosby. Got that old man shuffle going on.
Shitting Sollygold - Fri, 28 Apr 2017 22:39:59 EST ID:hMRwR/Kh No.353748 Ignore Report Quick Reply
helped my friend this on dxm.mostly just pushed spacebar and deleted old takes lol soundcloud.com/urstuffmedia/hsh
Molly Mobblenut - Sat, 29 Apr 2017 02:53:03 EST ID:wOJo7uVw No.353750 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This thread again? instantly ignoring this shit. these threads were the start of /dis/ dying

Bad DXM experience by Emma Daddlegold - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 22:12:06 EST ID:uDv6123u No.353683 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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So I've wanted to try dissos for some time now, I've done a lot of different psychs (LSD, LSA, mescaline, shrooms, 25i) and I've smoked salvia, so I think I have a decent amount of experience.

That said, I tried 354 mgs of DXM and did NOT have a good time. Felt nauseous for most of it, kinda like motion sickness, and had extreme emotional swings. I went from crying my eyes out to feeling absolute euphoria to seething with rage in the span of about a minute.

Is this normal? I'm still open to trying things like ket and pcp, but if it's as similar as what I felt on DXM I'm really reluctant to pursue it. There was some stuff about it that was fun and novel but by and large I'm really unlikely to do DXM again.
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Basil Bimmerhodge - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 21:30:35 EST ID:6k5tH/3/ No.353718 Ignore Report Quick Reply
encountering spiritual being/s who let themselves known when i was under the influence, only to be there still even after the effect is gone or i never did it.
Clara Gunnerfoot - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 21:32:20 EST ID:x6tZ+wk2 No.353719 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I thought my mind had been hijacked by aliens on 435mg of DXM and a couple tabs of LSD. I blame DXM mostly for causing the thoughts, and LSD for making me believe them. It's a long story, but basically, the aliens had been giving me directions telepathically and using me to find resources on Earth. On the night of my trip, they were planning to lift the whole human race into a new era of peace and cooperation, and they wanted to use me as a mouthpiece to help the change happen. The aliens themselves weren't coming to Earth, but somehow, everybody could feel that the most important event in human history was happening. They were all about to undergo scary and confusing mental changes, and I was supposed to guide them through these changes and let them know that the new era would be better.

During the comedown, I realized none of this actually happened... my mom looked scared and confused because I'd just told her I needed to be taken to a hospital and sedated, and she was paying special attention to me because she wanted me to be okay, not because I was guiding her and the rest of humanity to mental evolution.

I'm all for crazy drug-induced delusions, as long as I stay in the bedroom and keep them to myself. Problems only arise when I interact with other people while believing these delusions.
Jenny Dingerlock - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 05:25:41 EST ID:l5UHNc5K No.353727 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>Also make sure you are well rested and well eaten, in good shape, having a good day, before hitting it. There is also a chance it was something unidentifiable and you might have better time next time by chance.

This guy trips nb.
Thomas Barddock - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 17:25:21 EST ID:PiNTJ8sY No.353732 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Op here,

Main thing that triggered the motion sickness for me was that I felt like I was falling, or at least moving vertically, while sitting down. This really threw me off at first, later on I felt like I was laying on moving gears, which actually was a really interesting and novel sensation but the first half or so of the trip was very physically and mentally unsettling.
Phoebe Crambleledge - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 22:13:23 EST ID:sGDCJqlF No.353735 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Took 900mg of DXM, felt like a demon or a poltergeist was pulling me to the floor.

HQ KETAMEEN by Cedric Semmlehall - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:58:59 EST ID:EOW95XHr No.353682 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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My buddy is gonna have a gram of this stuff and im going to do some with him and 1 other. We have never tried it but im going to aim for a 'k-hole' experience. Only dissos ive tried are mxe and dxm. How much k will do? I plan on railing one big gorilla thumb of that shit with my nose but if there is a better way to take it (besides banging it with a needle or bootybampn it) i will do it. Also are there any particularly fun activites to do while high? What are the visuals like? Do you see like geometric patterns and shit or is it much different than tripping balls with like acid? On mxe i didnt do one big dose but i did my fair share of re-dosing and basically i felt pretty euphoric with a hint of disorientation and having to take a leak but unable to move urine from my blatter. Any input would be awesome.

Basically describe the khole experience.
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Charles Fullyspear - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 01:11:00 EST ID:feSDXAaT No.353721 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Also, since you've been there, I wonder if you can relate to my aural acid and ket trip report: https://soundcloud.com/user-715735308/otk7-avk-mix
William Blackworth - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 01:35:39 EST ID:BKDcy69G No.353723 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I ended up taking more that night and actually holing that time. I stayed hydrated and rinsed my nostrils with saline in between uses. I also crushed the crystals into powder even further. This all helped me, even with my tolerance from use earlier that day. I took 200mg this time.

Man, holing is awesome. It's like a psychedelic that only lasts for an hour or two, perfect for when I wanna trip but don't wanna dedicate 6 hours or so to it. Really interesting feelings, had an enlightening outlook on something in my life so it's already helped me.
William Blackworth - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 01:37:10 EST ID:BKDcy69G No.353724 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I get this as well, so immediately after I am done holing I take a benzo. Seems to bring me to a much more back to earth and enjoyable level after 15-20 minutes or so.
Edward Crengerfuck - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 03:33:55 EST ID:twSGSxHk No.353725 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Is it just me or do the after effects last 5-6 hours? I always feel kinda drunk and confused afterwards
Wesley Crarringbanks - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 14:48:49 EST ID:RWAravVK No.353731 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Best advice in thread

Making a 20mg/ml Diphenidine PG solution? by Alice Brookwater - Thu, 27 Apr 2017 01:30:54 EST ID:P+Lb/EmS No.353722 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Is it even possible to dissolve Diphenidine powder in Propylene Glycol? How hard would it be to make a 20mg/ml solution?

MXE by Charles Popperhood - Sat, 15 Apr 2017 15:42:06 EST ID:eTAxU2iP No.353444 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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is it still available for pruchase on the internet for the USA
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Betsy Bommleham - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 20:08:17 EST ID:yj5YLg+X No.353652 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I was so confused for a minute I thought you meant it turns blood the color red.
Phoebe Donderbury - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 21:26:06 EST ID:hEgPNxO4 No.353660 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>I've heard rumors of India making some soon
Yeah like that'll ever happen. Did you know MXE still isn't even scheduled in America? Why aren't Americans making MXE?!
Archie Turveylock - Sun, 23 Apr 2017 23:04:17 EST ID:V6GtN1XI No.353666 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Something about the cost of production being too high and the profit margins too low or some shit.
Which I think is bullshit. They could charge whatever and people would still buy it. Just look at dck for fucks sake the price has skyrocketed as it's become more popular. I used to be able to get 2 grams for 60 bucks and now you're lucky if you find 1 gram for 50 or less.
Damn chineses need to ramp up their clandestine chemical labs.
James Turveyman - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 03:34:01 EST ID:wL479jFq No.353669 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Why aren't Americans making MXE?!
rest in peace
Caroline Honeygold - Wed, 26 Apr 2017 16:41:48 EST ID:F/4yVHRx No.353710 Ignore Report Quick Reply
fuck off avatarfag

First trip in a while by Phineas Pickway - Tue, 28 Mar 2017 16:51:27 EST ID:PUDF/Q2c No.353056 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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Haven't robotripped in 28 days. Gonna drink 1 and a half bottles of grape Delsym 5 oz bottles
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Wesley Wesslewater - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 22:15:27 EST ID:EzInmnCx No.353201 Ignore Report Quick Reply
underage I bet. where I live you have to be 18 buy pharmaceuticals so I'd hide a box of syrup under a case of soda

woah I opened this and the post above was written up on the app I use. crazy. I might've written it when I was blacked out.
Cyril Chabblenut - Wed, 05 Apr 2017 22:37:51 EST ID:MMygKdrQ No.353204 Ignore Report Quick Reply
haha classic, nb
Alice Bivinglotch - Fri, 07 Apr 2017 22:18:24 EST ID:O/oAXBaV No.353254 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I got caught shoplifting shades and a watch when I was 18. I got arrested but released on a promise to appear. I was so distraught on the walk home that I thought it would be a great idea to shoplift two large bottles of Robo. The last thing I remember from that night was chugging the second bottle an unknown amount of time after I had already finished the first. Next thing I know, there's a knock on my door in the morning. I looked around and my room (boarding house, everything I had in the world was in that room) was trashed. A normal person probably would have thought the cops were at the door coming to pick them up for shoplifting right after getting charged with shoplifting, but I had no memory of anything the night before. Luckily, it was actually a younger kid I knew who got kicked out that night. I let him stay and eventually my actual friends came in. I didn't even tell them anything until about a week after. We spent the day smoking bongs and watching movies and my friend eventually looked over at me to say that I legit looked like I was dead. I was just sitting all wide eyed on my bed with my head leaning back on the wall. I ended up afterglowing for three whole days.

I wouldn't say I'm proud but I don't regret any of this either.
John Bennerhall - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 13:52:34 EST ID:lp0OvtZU No.353672 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I wrote OP. I actually drank the other 1 and a half bottles. It was crazy. I literally was at court this morning and they rescheduled me. I am 18. I just had no money and wanted to get high. I hadn't shoplifted in so long and used to steal 14 bottles every other day in 2015. I guess I'm just not as slick anymore.
Cedric Wuttingforth - Mon, 24 Apr 2017 21:50:55 EST ID:FDw4oep4 No.353680 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>used to steal 14 bottles every other day in 2015.

You are what is killing /dis/

hhhheeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyy by John Darringstun - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 05:43:49 EST ID:VOTrKn5A No.353580 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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haven't dissed since 2015 (I'm 26), to all you skeptics: the magic comes back. I am on 450MG of robogels + dank weed and it feels just like those first times
feel like the lava thing inside of the lava lamp
feel like I'm being gently smushed by a delicate vibration
sunlight and plants and clouds my friends
sooooooo nice
off to watch a fan edited version of the hobbit and smoke all the weed on this sunny day on the porch
sending SLAYER in your general direction friends
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Matilda Herringdale - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 21:18:36 EST ID:R+zc8ONc No.353635 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I did follow the plat rule mostly.
What does dexxing feel like for you now?
I'd describe the "magic" as the combination of the music enhancement, mental clarity / ego loss, the trance state, and the ability to see visions / 'hyperspace', dextroverse, whatever it's called. And every trip felt unique, even though the body load felt familiar.
Matilda Herringdale - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 21:30:58 EST ID:R+zc8ONc No.353636 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I have a therapist but I'm not a therapist yet. My therapist would never say anything like what that poster said.
Priscilla Brepperchock - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 21:37:35 EST ID:XDYs6e5u No.353637 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I'm saying a universal thing. At times we all act like this unaffected person, free of emotion and clear in vision and we learn over time that there is a lot more grit to life. Maybe when your old and all that's left is to watch your grandchildren grow up, then it is a real person within you, until then it is fake and it is obvious.

I was like this for years. It was very hard to realize what I was hiding. I was hiding from muh feels. but I'm done I think the dxm is kicking in.
Priscilla Brepperchock - Fri, 21 Apr 2017 21:40:12 EST ID:XDYs6e5u No.353638 Ignore Report Quick Reply


how you feel on both sides of the unaffected fake person
Basil Duckville - Sat, 22 Apr 2017 04:19:52 EST ID:RbOwN/w0 No.353644 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Well 1st play doses feel like a serotonin boost, mood lift basically.
If I try to do a 3rd plat dose all at once I just end feeling emotionally cold and I can only get decent CEVs at the peak if I keep my eyes closed for a very long period, which is easy on dxm, buts it never satisfies expectations and i barely get any feeling of floating through the dextroverse as my body shifts and morphs in impossible ways, which was my favorite part of dxm. So its almost always disappointing to dose all at once.
Music enhancement is still there at any plat, but the sounds dont seem wider or flangy like they use to.

The only real way to emulate the magic is to slow dose a heavy 3rd plat dose, at least 900mg but less than 1200mg is usually lackluster. Start with about 150mg, than dose 60 to 120mg every 20-30 mins and by the end I'm finally in dextroverse territory.

The downside is, the afterglow of heavy trips doesn't feel all that great, I just feel zombie brained the next day.
1st Plat doses still give an enjoyable afterglow that is mostly just a nice antidepressant feeling.

The worst thing about losing the magic in my experience is I no longer get the feeling that I'm living the movies I watch, no matter how high of a dose I do. DXM use to always break the 4th wall for movies, even if the movie made no attempt to do so for the viewer. Basically dxm barely helps immerse me into films anymore and it's the worst because it still causes more difficulty with following the plot without making that fact ignorable with increased immersion.

Personally because ive lost the magic when I do dex I'll go on about week long binges trying to achieve sigma, which always feel just of reach and wrecks my tolerance even more. Probably just need to take larger doses, but its difficult when I need at least 3 bottles of any form of dex each day to even sustain it.

TL;DR: Lost magic means lost immersion in visuals, music and movies, so if you still have it don't abuse it or else you'll lose it.

Valerian Root and DXM by James Snodfield - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 19:09:35 EST ID:s/LsdI2k No.353588 Ignore Report Reply Quick Reply
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I've seen people post about this here and there, but I don't think it can be overstated. At larger doses it inhibits CYP3A4 and in general the way it alters the trip is pretty nice. It makes you a little bit more lucid but pronounces the physical dissociative effects. It does tend to dampen some of the mania (there's not a ton of mania anyway so whatever), overall it just makes things a lot more chill.

Of course, the capsules you find in stores do fuck all but make you feel a bit weird. You need to get some valerian tincture off of amazon or something. I think it adds to the experience quite a bit. The amount I take is usually 2 or 3 pipettes full and going off the back, an full pipette is 1000mg. Anyone else tried this out?
Nathaniel Sumbletutch - Wed, 19 Apr 2017 23:12:57 EST ID:FCsxyGwb No.353594 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Valerian is indeed an awesome addition to a potentiator stack. I used the caps at first but I found they were adding to the nausea. At some point I got unground, dried Valerian from an herbalist. I would smoke it on the come-up mixed with Bergamot, which is also a really good CYP3A4 inhibitor (as well as weed and tobacco because I smoke those anyway). I can't tell you how much I was smoking, but no more than what would fit in a king size joint or 2.

I pretty much exclusively use poly now, so I can't say how it would work with HBr. But with polystirex I would smoke the big mix spliff around t+1:00 then maybe another one around t+2:00 depending on how nauseous I felt (the Valerian still seemed to make it worse, but not as much as taking it orally). IME it would rapidly catalyze the come-up in addition to amplifying/improving effects.

But also seriously Bergamot is fucking awesome too. Y'all should try that too.
George Shittingfuck - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 02:04:30 EST ID:3UZoz9+Q No.353595 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Valerian root seems to be poorly studied, there isn't even consensus on whether it's effective for insomnia, the purpose for which it is usually marketed (EMA only went so far as to say that it can be used as a mild sleep aid, which is not very concrete a claim). I once had a temporary heart arrhythmia after taking pharmaceutic (not supermarket) valerian root for a few days in increasingly higher dosages (topping out at 5 capsules) in the morning (went to the doctor and all, blood pressure device called me an error 6 times in a row, very sure that this is what happened). This is in fact known to occur rarely. Needless to say, that is bad news regarding usage with DXM.

Take this as you want just putting it out there
Jenny Sebberlodge - Thu, 20 Apr 2017 12:19:14 EST ID:WAkYssDf No.353601 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I love Valerian Root. Chamomile and Sleepytime Tea's are great, too.

I often take them alongside DXM, and I agree.. it really tunes down the mania. For instance, the other day I tripped on 400mg around 12AM, and then decided I would dose 300mg at 9AM, because I didn't have shit to do and was still wide awake. I was feeling alright so I decided what the hell.. and then dosed again at 11:30AM.

The sleep deprivation and redosing was fantastic at first. I felt melted into the couch while watching Cowboy Bebop, but around 2PM I began to feel super fucked up and had a minor psychotic break.. I was hearing auditory hallucinations, seeing hidden messages in random shit, and piecing together events over the week that were signs that I was going to die right then and there. I felt like my blood flow and heart had stopped, and kept having to remind myself to breath deeper, as I was breathing shallow and feeling like my brain wasn't getting enough oxygen.. A few times I literally felt my brain "zapping" back to life when I'd concentrate on breathing heavy, which was followed by a full body numb, fuzzy sensation. I was feeling super confused and panicked a bit, as I rarely get that dissociated. I was also unable to fall asleep, and was only able to fall into false dreams that I'd wake up panicking from. I was convinced that I'd tripped one too many times and had finally went schizo. Everything seemed threatening, dark, and negative. I'd made a big mistake, which I should have learned my lesson from before when something similar had happened... but you know.. Drugs can lead to bad decisions..

So, anyways.. I stumbled into the kitchen, made a tea, popped some valerian, and finally was able to chill out and fall asleep around 7. I should have did it earlier, but I was just too fucking confused and focused on breathing.. It was all fixed within like 20 minutes. I really don't recommend tripping on little sleep, and if you do trip without any.. do not redose.

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