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Agent Lemon: Dual-Phase Acid-Base Extraction of DXM ??? by Sidney Shittingville - Wed, 30 Aug 2017 04:39:54 EST ID:472XpoaF No.355745 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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> Has anyone tried this?
> What was it like?
> Anyone out there who likes to try their hand at home chemistry like this?

I'm seriously considering starting my own home laboratory and building my skills up in chemistry from simple equations like this, and eventually synthesizing my own DXE, MXE, 3-meo-pcp, and other fun stuff related to other boards.

> Thoughts?
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Emma Horrylock - Wed, 30 Aug 2017 08:50:08 EST ID:+rlBkEZA No.355746 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>355745
You can easily kill yourself if you do a mistake in synthesizing 3-meo-pcp.
Idk about chemistry but i can tell you that you need much money to build your own laboratory. As an example: If you wanna extract Lsd from Lsa you will need atleast 5000 Euro to get the right Equipment. I think arylcyclohexylamine's are not as hard as Lsd to produce but not easy.
The easyest drug you can actally synthesize is Gbh from Gbl or Crystal Meth.
Maybe you can find some instructions from the darknet.
You should befriend with a Chemic who can help you
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Thomas Sigglepock - Wed, 30 Aug 2017 14:33:05 EST ID:yVyr2UVT No.355750 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>355745
>Has anyone tried this?
I attempted it like... 6-7 years ago. Smelled bad, fucked it up, decided not to consume the end result. In my opinion, it is a waste. Unless A. you are good and have proper equipment B. you are rich or C. you are curious.

The yield is so low compared to just buying and taking the product as is. Plus unless you really have your shit down the end result is going to stank like naptha or whatever other solvents you use (i forget). If you really don't want to taste the sizzurp or eat gelcaps try extracting the polistirex from Delsym. All you need is a 2 liter bottle and some water. Obviously both methods will be wasteful cost wise. You will always lose some of the DXM.

>and eventually synthesizing my own DXE, MXE, 3-meo-pcp
Yeah... sorry to break it to you but an extraction TEK is way far from those synths. I'm not saying you will never get there but you would need a lot of glassware and know how. Like a lot.
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Thomas Grandworth - Thu, 31 Aug 2017 06:07:17 EST ID:wygAoKHr No.355764 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>355750
I'm pretty well versed with chemistry, I was the top of all my classes in college, and I'm currently studying the syllabus of a very advanced class, and I already have quite the collect of glass and fumigation equipment. I've grown my own shrooms and extracted my own DMT, I'm just curious if anyone else is on the same crazy adventure I am on
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Edwin Hagglefield - Fri, 01 Sep 2017 00:34:51 EST ID:BxtrS3E7 No.355787 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>355745
yea, was my preferred method for awhile. felt like it may have come on faster/stronger? remember to make sure you have proper separation on both A/B-B/A extractions.

Also be mindful of impurities, either from your choice of extraction substrate (pic related, can be done w/ mucinex, took extra rinses bc binders tho) or solvents used (check nonpolar for residue after drying a few drops on glass). ultimately you're better off pricewise buying powder off the clearnet, but where's the fun in that?

if you're versed in orgo, do tread lightly. start small. you're not gonna jump straight to crafting the hottest new ach in a day and like the others said an extraction tek is a fair bit different than straight up synthesis.
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Beatrice Dabberfield - Tue, 14 Nov 2017 23:44:19 EST ID:Nv9N46Zp No.357354 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>355745
Dude. Im pretty buzzed. And this post is from august. But im totally down with this typa shit. I love making my own drugs
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Angus Segglefield - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 07:43:16 EST ID:Xh6hBk/3 No.357359 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>355764
I've synthesized mescaline from vanillin and methcathinone from pseudoephedrine.
I mastered the art of extraction a few years ago. Currently my interest has shifted to synthesis of PCP and PCE but I currently lack any labware. I used to steal organic chem books and just study on my own time.

Ketamine is a super complicated synthesis with many precursors that are hard to find.

Try synthesizing GHB from MSG... yeast actually convert MSG to GHB when exposed to it in an anaerobic enviroment...
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Polly Brigglepot - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 10:17:27 EST ID:gNm1F8GN No.357360 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>357359
really
i just made a mixture of that how long should it sit and reactt until GHB is actually formed
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Angus Segglefield - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 12:13:04 EST ID:Xh6hBk/3 No.357362 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>357360
http://www.bluelight.org/vb/threads/653263-Breakthrough-Brewing-GHB-Cider-with-Apple-Juice-and-Monosodium-Glutamate

depends on temperature of the solution amount of MSG added and such
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Graham Gassleshaw - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 13:28:12 EST ID:qXlp4/N+ No.357363 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>357359
im in a very similar position. mastered extracting back in 2007-2010 and have always had enough free access to san pedros that ive never needed to synth mescaline but vanillin to mesc is something i could do easily as is methcathinone from pseudoephedrine.

as far as ketamine synthesis look into using these chems as precursors, with your level of understanding it sounds like you should be able to connect the dots with just a list. for ket synth look into;

benzoic acid, 2-oxocyclohexanecarbaldehyde, 2-chlorophenyl-methylamino, and for adding that final methyamino im not sure but im sure theres something out there. its still pretty advanced but the difficulty and complexity can for sure be cut down. youd need similar glass as needed for making pcp or pce derivatives.
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Eugene Cremmerstot - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 14:25:59 EST ID:FHEAp9ru No.357365 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>355787
That's called a mirror dot test my niggle.
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Hugh Billingcocke - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 20:36:49 EST ID:1LzEcZP0 No.357371 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Did you ever make escaline, proscaline, etc. from vanillin? Or MMDA?
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Hugh Billingcocke - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 20:37:39 EST ID:1LzEcZP0 No.357372 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>357359
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Betsy Follymotch - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 22:07:20 EST ID:okRphSK/ No.357375 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>357359
>>357362
I haven't browsed /dis/ in like a year, and today when was I soaking up my tools to MAKE CIDER, I saw this thread high as fuck
Guess who's going to the chinese market for some MSG powder
Thank you sir
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Samuel Nickleman - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 23:51:04 EST ID:Xh6hBk/3 No.357376 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>357371
Nah but i'm sure you could do it quite simply with different reagents.
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Molly Tootdale - Thu, 16 Nov 2017 15:15:59 EST ID:Qtu9wPew No.357387 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>357375
yah im the same boat have everything i need but the MSG, have 6 gallons of cider in my freezer lol. the season here is too harsh to start right now though so im waiting until spring.
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Basil Crecklewidge - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 10:53:46 EST ID:+LdGW9Qc No.357424 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Extraction is basically a valid action if your product is bundled with unwanted stuff like sorbitol or other stuff that'll make you shoot liquid out of your ass etc.
The NaOH + naphtha method is pretty straightforward and doesn't take a lot of time, been doing it so long that extraction + vaporizing naphtha + cooling the end product takes ~25-30mins. Sure there's loss of product, but it sure does beat having to suffer through sorbitol induced states of nausea and liquid shit. Pretty much forced to do it, since all the DXM containing cough syrups are bundled with additives in my country.
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Beatrice Hannerforth - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 20:01:49 EST ID:/bZQ+LlZ No.357479 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>357424

NaOH might be a bit unnecessarily strong of a base, you can use Sodium Carbonate (Washing Soda) and it seems to work fine as well, but if you're comfortable with using Lye then there's no real reason not to other than safety concerns.

Ammonia works great as well and you don't have to worry about accidentally getting it into your final product due to the fact that it evaporates, but you need non-sudsy Ammonia (if it mentions surfactants in the ingredients, it is not non-sudsy).


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