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Nitrous Oxide by Frederick Dartfield - Sun, 22 Oct 2017 02:43:04 EST ID:BtKXjyDv No.356705 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Do people on this board do nitrous? I don't see much talk about it.

It's relatively popular around here, especially the illegal house party scene. It's not that hard to find a source to fill a tank around here if you hang around people who use drugs.

I really really like it and always binge on it. Pretty much universal price here is 3 balloons for $5, and I end up spending up to $100 on balloons. It makes me want to redose immediately like nothing I've ever had. I've shared a tank just between a few friends and I redosed non stop for hours. I like the experience to get really strong to the point where I completely dissociate from my body and have intense visuals and audio hallucinations. It's hard to stay in that state for more than a few seconds because you let go of the balloon before your vision goes away. My friends said that my eyes rolled back and I started convulsing lightly. I had not heard that that was en effect.

What are your experiences or comments on nitrous oxide?
William Forringway - Sat, 28 Oct 2017 20:51:52 EST ID:WOZSEPG1 No.356839 Ignore Report Quick Reply

I love nitrous. I recently got into it and ive been doing waaay too much lol. My norm is 200 or more as of now. I just killed 150 of them in a matter of just a few hours. Shits better than dmt. Imma post more nitrous shit here but my phones fucking up so imma just bump for now.
William Forringway - Sat, 28 Oct 2017 20:54:50 EST ID:WOZSEPG1 No.356840 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Question: how do you guys do your nitrous? I use a dispensor and hit it straight. I know im stupid but it's so convenient and tastes so good and hits so hard. Nb
Barnaby Sockleridge - Sun, 29 Oct 2017 00:52:34 EST ID:Vl1u5iqX No.356851 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I keep a dispenser around and I'll buy a pack from my local smoke shop whenever I plan on having a drug sesh. Where I'm from, almost no one has even heard of laughing gas or nitrous. I'll be at a party, and while most people smoke cigarettes when they run out of people to talk to, I'll just hole up in a corner doing whippets. Watching some dude huff on balloons is a hilarious sight, so I'll often have to explain to them the concept of dissociatives etc.

I fucking love the effects because like, of course. I try not to do too much because of how masturbatory the whole experience is though.
Fucking Paddletitch - Sun, 29 Oct 2017 12:49:10 EST ID:Y8Ew2/KU No.356865 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hitting it straight is some next level junkie type shit and is asking to get killed by a rogue canister. Didn't you see the news of that stupid white chick who was hitting it straight when it exploded and lodged into her skull killing her
Hannah Fimblechane - Sun, 29 Oct 2017 15:32:49 EST ID:FDw4oep4 No.356866 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hamilton Blollerchodge - Sun, 29 Oct 2017 20:03:44 EST ID:FAUnLeHg No.356868 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I use ballons from a tank with a valve meant for balloons. Its the kind clowns use at kids parties. You just insert the end of the valve into the balloon and move it any direction. Its really to use even when heavily dissed
Martin Deblingmedge - Sun, 29 Oct 2017 23:56:56 EST ID:WOZSEPG1 No.356871 Ignore Report Quick Reply

A few things about this report: first of all you have to keep in mind that its one of the first if not THE first ecample of a death by one of these explosions. There has been injury but not deaths. Most of these explosions occur during normal use, in one incident it ecploded while a woman was making desserts for her daughter ( not huffing ) and it exploded when she shook it. Some disoensors are just not built to withstand that extreme pressure it has to be under. Over filling the bottle with nitrous and letting the bottle sit too long could cause gas to expand inside to dangerous levels that could cause damage over time thst leads to explosions.

Another thing to keep in mind is that human error is the biggest issue. Dont buy cheap dispensors and make sure you research the brand to make sure its reputable. Always check to make sure all pieces of the dispensor are tightened and safe, no broken seals or cartridge holders with messed up threads. If you notice and issue thst just dont seem right, even if its mid session, do not continue. Wait until you can buy a new dispensor or replacement parts.

If you do hit straight from the dispensor please hit it slow. Hitting too fast could release gas so cold it feezes your lungs of throat causing damage. Hitting the dispensor slowly will allow the gas to warm and expand to safe levels before getting to your lungs.

Balloons are safer by far, but If I'm stupid then i know some other people are too, amd I'd rather help keep idiots safe than let them be a bigger idiot who kills themself.

Dispensors are still the safer bet than crackers though balloons or not. They are much less likely to be faulty and less likely to cause freezing of the hands along with other dangers. Always go with a dispensor regardless of how you get the gas from the cartridge to your lungs.


How did you manage getting a tank filled. I wanna get one. Any tips?
Ernest Bevingfeg - Mon, 30 Oct 2017 01:32:44 EST ID:x8Op8zxz No.356872 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Call me an idiot if you want, but when you say "illegal house party scene", do you mean parties involving house music, or illegal parties that take place in a house?

Have never done whippets, but they're on my bucket list. Where is "around here" for you, if you don't mind my asking? Have lived in NYC and Boston and did a lot of drugs in both, but never met anyone who was into nitrous.
Angus Fundleman - Mon, 30 Oct 2017 04:15:07 EST ID:M0eG9pES No.356878 Ignore Report Quick Reply

most headshops sell the canisters. the ones around me you just ask for "whipped cream chargers" or just find the box in the display and point lol as for the dispensor they sometimes keep them in a separate room of the headshop idk might just be the ones around me and sometimes they only have crackers. then get some balloons and put on some ridiculous music and have a good time (if you use a cracker wear a glove ya dingus)
Phyllis Wablingworth - Mon, 30 Oct 2017 09:17:55 EST ID:Qt58CjR7 No.356882 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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i'm goingto explain exactly how stupid that is. gas cools as it expands, so what youre essentially doing is freezing your fucking throat. you could very very likely get frostbite which will result in a bloody pus-filled abcess blocking your airways and drowning you in your own putrid fluids.

use a fucking balloon dipshit
Priscilla Blytheway - Tue, 31 Oct 2017 02:08:04 EST ID:BtKXjyDv No.356901 Ignore Report Quick Reply
illegal parties in houses
around here is Los Angeles
Priscilla Blytheway - Tue, 31 Oct 2017 02:12:32 EST ID:BtKXjyDv No.356902 Ignore Report Quick Reply
around here people get them filled at mechanic and performance shops. A buddy introduced me to a performance shop place and they just make you sign a waiver and show ID.
Oliver Horringwill - Tue, 31 Oct 2017 05:35:15 EST ID:IqgnmU+/ No.356903 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Isn't automotive nitrous pretty laden with harmful extras?
Sidney Turveyfuck - Tue, 31 Oct 2017 09:19:43 EST ID:bcJX6+ME No.356906 Ignore Report Quick Reply
British person here, it's really common, most sketchy clubs sell them and they're often available on the streets near clubs. Can also get them in cornershops and online. On their own I think they're shit, just 30 seconds of mild disassociation, however if you take mdma, smoke some weed after you e been rolling for a few hours then do a nos it's one of the most amazing experiences you can have, complete disassociation and mad trips, people call it tri-wizarding or the holy trinity
Frederick Pockhall - Tue, 31 Oct 2017 19:03:31 EST ID:rf0hYNEA No.356918 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Yep, Autograde nitrous & Food grade/medical grade nitrous are completely different worlds. These people using car nitrous are fucking their brains up thoroughly.
Ian Pitthood - Tue, 31 Oct 2017 20:40:44 EST ID:Yp0OGhOz No.356921 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How in the actual fuck could anyone NOT know this? Man they used to put lead in gasoline for fucks sake.
Charles Drudgetore - Wed, 01 Nov 2017 02:23:23 EST ID:0XcvpIwu No.356942 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Nitrous is dope, but it is VERY fiendish. If I don't put away a box of whippets I will end up doing a large majority if not the entire box. Straight up. I rarely buy them now-a-days, but I was much more responsible with them when I first used them around 5 years ago.
Very fun and a great drug for combos.
Ian Blenderwater - Thu, 02 Nov 2017 00:42:22 EST ID:tk4VI4I5 No.356960 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Figure I'll just post here instead of making my own thread.

I just randomly found my old dispenser, I thought I lost it in the move years ago. I was planning on a 3rd plat DXM trip like tomorrow and now I'm wondering if I should grab some chargers and add nitrous to the mix. It's been so long since I used nitrous though, can I get some recommendations? Like how much and when during the trip to get the most out of it?

I think I've only done DXM + nitrous like once, maybe twice, in the past, so I don't remember what it even did. I think it enhanced the flanging effect? I know that's happened to me with DXM + MXE.

Oh and how bad will this wreck my dis tolerance?
Clara Billingstone - Sat, 04 Nov 2017 04:46:18 EST ID:7DPewo7l No.357013 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No clue about tolerance but n2o plus dxm is very intense
Phyllis Ponkinspear - Sat, 04 Nov 2017 16:15:39 EST ID:tk4VI4I5 No.357028 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Can you describe what nitrous adds to the experience?
Clara Senderwodge - Sat, 04 Nov 2017 20:00:18 EST ID:7DPewo7l No.357041 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Sure, for me I might do some at the end of the trip or the day after heavy doses because it is so heavy on my body. It is crazy potentiated by the Dex and gives me a rush that's too strong almost every time. There have been multiple times I have whipped it while on that syrup and just puked on the spot from the body high.

Very intense visuals tho
William Fandock - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 01:43:01 EST ID:tk4VI4I5 No.357060 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Interesting. It sounds like I could take 100mg or so off my dosages, say shoot for a low 3rd instead of high, and get something more out of them.

What are the visuals like in your experience? Is it like the flanging/vibrating/choppiness or like the vague forms and scenes I get at high 3rd/4th plat? I'll keep a bucket handy.
Nathaniel Shittingshit - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 17:49:14 EST ID:BtKXjyDv No.357079 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm OP and the guy talking about using auto grade nitrous. I bought a dispenser and cartridges last night and I've decided I don't care about harmful contaminants in auto grade nitrous. The strength doesn't quite feel the same and using cartridges is much more tedious than using a tank. Five cartridges felt equivalent to 1 balloon from a tank. The flavor was the same as the tank stuff.
Graham Forryhood - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 19:56:10 EST ID:lcOTR0qw No.357084 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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For me the biggest effect has to be the delusions. One time i watched futurama while on dxm, acid, and nitrous, and i swear to god, i thought it was an actual message sent back from the future so i could take a different branch of the timeline. I also thought for a moment that only certain people could see the show and i was one of them. Well, those delusions turned into something that was actually beneficial instead of just crazy thoughts and now i feel confident in my choices in life from this experience.

Bonus note: i got to meet billy west today, got a picture with him, and got them signed. He also said if he could bring back any piece of technology from the year 3000 hed choose the smelloscope lol.

I also got this picture as a poster and its sweet.
Doris Nicklestone - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 21:45:21 EST ID:7DPewo7l No.357089 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't ever get the flanging anymore, I wish I did man that shit is tight.

Anyways the visuals are like having my conscience blasted 3 feet back and then rainbow spiderwebs exploding from the center of my vision
Molly Greenbury - Sun, 05 Nov 2017 23:04:08 EST ID:yVyr2UVT No.357095 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So awesome. I love Futurama. It kicked ass.
Phoebe Hittingfodging - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 05:37:47 EST ID:Ytb/UUmV No.357099 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Ur probably inhaling fucking hydrocarbons which make it appear more intense... hydrocarbons have NMDA antagonistic effects but seriously, a lot of hydrocarbons cause cancer, look up benzene etc be fucking careful
Basil Nickleshit - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 16:15:06 EST ID:tk4VI4I5 No.357113 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I dunno how I feel about this. On one level I like the playful/weird thought loops I get in. I remember playing Goldeneye and just getting lost in a bunch of bizarre tangential narratives that took place inside the game world, N64 graphics and everything, but IRL I was just standing in front of a door in the Silo level (I forgot how to press B to open doors and just put the controller down and stared at the screen).

On another level, it frightens me that I might act out while blacked out. When I do trip, my wife tripsits me and usually I'll just say stupid shit but sometimes I'll get very insistent about things and I worry I might attempt to get in a serious argument over bullshit and not remember any of it. Last trip I dosed to high and I apparently demanded she make a new batch of sugar cookies, which she found mildly annoying but did it anyway as long as I stayed in the kitchen so she could keep an eye on me. I just stood there and stared into space and about halfway through I said "I don't even know why you're doing this. I didn't even WANT cookies" and walked out. She thought it was funny but I worry about the possibility of getting argumentative and ruining our night.

So maybe I'll try a couple chargers and see how I do. Nitrous is very short-acting, so I'm not super worried. More just trying to keep myself from splurging on 500 chargers and then regretting it.

Yeah I miss the flanging. It stopped after my first few trips and comes back and random for only brief moments once in a blue moon. DXM + MXE brought it back a few times in a row, then never again. Anyway, sounds like you get more psychedelic visuals which I sometimes get on DXM (not quite psychedelic, but I don't know a better way to characterize it). I'd totally be into that especially if it brought out the color in my environment. I have a pretty expensive laser projector (adjustable speeds, patterns, sound-sensitive) that I used to set up and just be entranced by on DXM, but lately I haven't even bothered to look up where I have it pointing. I just get caught up in the visual delay and weird thought loops that fill the gaps in my memory. I need to dose lower, I swear.
Doris Nicklestone - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 18:25:26 EST ID:7DPewo7l No.357116 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Wow I'm doing just the opposite lately, I'm going for a high 4th this weekend cuz it's been too long
Phoebe Clerrycocke - Mon, 06 Nov 2017 22:00:30 EST ID:tk4VI4I5 No.357128 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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I feel like I need to relearn how to enjoy 2nd and low 3rd plats. Like the more "active" trips where you're moving around enjoying yourself. Lately it's just been blackouts and making myself stupid. Feels like a waste, and I beat myself up for it. I miss the good old days of me bouncing around my apartment at 3 in the morning blasting Juno Reactor.

And then maybe I can get the most out of a 4th plat when I go back. Enjoy yours, btw. SLAYER.
William Honeyhall - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 00:49:52 EST ID:qWy30If0 No.357159 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Seems like tolerance is more like a wall that covers what's there instead of a water-level that changes the dose required to get to the same place.
I know what you mean about wanting to blare specific music and get that special trip again, but you've got to accept that your mind and biology have changed and maybe it's time to try a different drug, rather than a different dose.

On a positive note, think about how tolerance is the foundation of a house, the start of a long journey, the construction of your identity.
James Budgewire - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 18:59:52 EST ID:tk4VI4I5 No.357186 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Over the course of 10 years I have tried dozens of different drugs. You shouldn't make assumptions like that, I'm probably a lot older than you think (I know, lot's of kids do DXM, I don't blame you). I returned to DXM after a 4 year break from it, and 3 of those years were spent entirely sober. In a perfect world I would have an easy source for 2C-C and MXE, which are by far my favorite drugs. DXM ranks a little lower, but it's more than fun enough, and certainly unique enough, for me to keep coming back.

It's just a frustrating drug, it's inconsistent. MXE was frustrating too, but I could always take more within an hour and eventually I'd get where I want by the end of the night. DXM is a bigger time investment. It doesn't help that DXM in particular makes me feel strangely nostalgic. It's memories of all my old trips, various moments of my life around the time of those trips, come flooding back. Psychedelics have made me nostalgic for my childhood, but DXM makes me nostalgic of my early adulthood, it's weird.

Ultimately, I'll manage to get *something* out of a DXM trip. Even if 90% of it was frustrating, 10% could be gold. In my previous post I was more talking about my habit of aiming for higher plats without thinking much about it. I need to actually stop myself and say "let's do a lower dose than that." It's a dumb habit from the days when I had access to pure powder, when I took a gram at a time, and dexxed multiple times a week. This next trip I'm doing 5 oz of Delsym, and I think I will ditch the extra robogels I typically take with Delsym. I'm gonna have a different playlist too. Because more important that changing the drug or the dose is changing your setting. You can get a whole new experience out of the same drug just by changing where you are and what you're doing.

Sorry to ramble (and possibly derail the thread). Speaking of mixing things up, I ordered the damn replacement screw-on thingy that I need to insert the N20 charger into my dispenser, along with new batteries for my 3D glasses so I can puke my brains out when I actually combo DXM and nitrous.
Hannah Bardshit - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 19:01:14 EST ID:MkIatAWO No.357187 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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So lets talk nitrous tolerance. I have been huffing like crazy and now i can actually function. Ive left week breaks at least between my binges, but i can easily kill 300 chargers during a trip, or less than 100 "on accident" (anyone whos gotten into nitrous knows what i mean). Its so easy to just take out 5-10 chargers and then at the end realize you actually killed all 50 or more in a daze of fiending, delusion, and memory loss. I barely get flanging at times with my nitrous. I can even walk while hitting it and i barely wobble (do not recommend, i still have had times i almost fell and mighta hurt myself but I CAN do it.) i also know how to time it right so i can talk to people without sounding like morgan freeman while huffing. Its also great to wake up and take a couple cartridges as my cup-a-joe.

I wish nitrous wasnt so dangerous when binged. I could totally make it my every reason drug if i didnt have to worry about hypoxia and spinal paralysis. Eh, guess dxm is already good enough and it does last longer.

Cmon, i wanna hear more nitrous stories. Anyone got some to share? Nitrous is such an underappreciated gem. Its even on the image for /dis/ along with robo.

Also, side note: is it just me or do the colors on whippet brand chargers remind you of futurama?
Hannah Bardshit - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 19:09:03 EST ID:MkIatAWO No.357188 Ignore Report Quick Reply

God i still need to try PSVR while on lsdxm with nitrous. This one "game" puts you in a kaleidoscopic visualizer that syncs with any and all music on your usb. I need to try it so bad. I havent done any vr in so many months. A 400 dollar piece of awe inspiring hardware just sitting unused. So sad.

Nb double post.
Henry Hushshaw - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 23:16:28 EST ID:tk4VI4I5 No.357192 Ignore Report Quick Reply

God I can just imagine the endless puking lol. I'm gonna pick one up when I can find it real cheap. $400 is quite a lot for a toy that I will rarely use. Reminds me of when I blew about $200 on a fancy sound-sensitive laser projector. You gotta put it like right up to the subwoofer but anything bass-heavy makes for some awesome visuals. The patterns would just morph into this geometric world wrapping around me.

Only major nitrous story I remember (that I think is worth telling) was combining it with 4-MeO-DMT. After huffing a few, the world around me just sort of faded away and I got lost in this elaborate world and narrative in my head. There was a lot of color and detail that I normally don't get on just dissociatives. I can't recall what was going on, but something about a weird shamanic journey I was taking in the Southern Swamp in Majora's Mask, except the local mall was there and I wound up walking through it but every storefront was just this void and I'm just walking down these empty halls with black holes all around me. Was weird, wish I could remember more. Those are what I love dissociatives for, though, those internal worlds and stories that are like mental video games or something.
Henry Hushshaw - Wed, 08 Nov 2017 23:17:27 EST ID:tk4VI4I5 No.357193 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Whoops I meant


Hamilton Crondlemare - Thu, 09 Nov 2017 04:44:40 EST ID:WOZSEPG1 No.357194 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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You ever heard the song? For me its some weird language. Dotseta teeska or something like that. Then there's that whirling, whistling "woooOOOOOoOoooooo" sound. Its something magical. Its like the sound of death and infinite bliss.

Ok, i know you people know what im saying. And its not just nitrous. I first heard it while stupidly huffing freon (which is like a better version of nitrous with the added bonus of brain damage and possible sudden huffing death syndrome. Id honestly do it more if it was safer like nitrous.) and it was just such an amazing song. I heard it again tonight on nitrous while in complete darkness with little noise.


Psvr is great while tripping. Played re7 on lsdxm, the visualizer i talked about (harmonix something-or-other), bound, and a few others. VR never really gives me nausea or anything. I can play for hours with all the settings that remove immersion in sake of preventing motion sickness set to off. I have absolutely no issues with vr. No discomfort at all really unless it's a movement thatd set me off in real life just as much as in vr. Even when im nauseous already from dxm i can play vr no issues. It's truly a gift imo. Gif is of the game in question.
Sidney Gangerkot - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 21:14:58 EST ID:rW4WFf+S No.357330 Ignore Report Quick Reply
are you me? mxe 2c-c and DOC are my favorite drugs. mxe + 2c-c or DOC is the most pleasurable experience
Fucking Hasslebury - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 21:14:59 EST ID:9vqwqsSn No.357331 Ignore Report Quick Reply
are you me? mxe 2c-c and DOC are my favorite drugs. mxe + 2c-c or DOC is the most pleasurable experience
Martha Cazzlenire - Mon, 13 Nov 2017 21:35:19 EST ID:tk4VI4I5 No.357332 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Never tried DOC. My wife tried it and she said she found it very uncomfortable and had a ton of amnesia when coming down, making it difficult to reintegrate. 2C-C is definitely my favorite psy for how chilled out and relaxed it is. Very introspective, none of the emotional roller coaster of LSD. 2C-E was pretty fun too because it WAS a roller coaster, though cmobining it with DXM seemed to tune out the bad ones, and DXM + shrooms is another favorite combo of mine . MXE I loved but it was an expensive habit that was more trouble than it was worth. Looking into trying DCK, have a vendor secured for myself. Anything I should know?
Simon Choffingville - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 00:15:42 EST ID:74n++JC/ No.357355 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>if you take mdma, smoke some weed after you e been rolling for a few hours then do a nos it's one of the most amazing experiences you can have
Am I alone in finding this combo over rated? It doesn't do much for me but exchange mdma for coming up on any psy with weed and n2o, then you have bliss
Ebenezer Tootshaw - Wed, 15 Nov 2017 14:14:03 EST ID:cfshlMwM No.357364 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>tfw waiting until the house is empty so my family doesn't hear loud balloon filling noises coming from my room
I really need to move out already
John Grandwater - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 15:16:25 EST ID:FCsxyGwb No.357408 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've been the universe understanding itself on Nitrous more times than I can count.
Thomas Sonninglan - Fri, 17 Nov 2017 21:46:25 EST ID:IqgnmU+/ No.357418 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Did you happen to immediately forget that feeling and get an overwhelming desire to do more nitrous by any chance?
Molly Worthinghood - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 12:24:40 EST ID:FCsxyGwb No.357426 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No. I remember the feeling rather well actually. But I definitely wanted to do more Nitrous afterward. Lol.
Hamilton Dellersit - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 15:48:26 EST ID:bPnGTkaW No.357432 Ignore Report Quick Reply
it's easy to remember the memory, but that *feeling* of being the universe understanding itself is something only nitrous can provide. i think it's mainly the "meta-consciousness" thoughts that are hard to remember. it all makes sense when you're high, but as soon as it wears off you wanna go straight back in and chase it

also, is it just me or do the thoughts you get feel like inside jokes that only you will ever understand? there's something really comforting about that headspace, like your own consciousness exists just so you can understand the "meta-consciousness" humour

(is meta-consciousness a good way of putting it? it's the best way i can describe it, like inside jokes from beyond reality)
Hamilton Dellersit - Sat, 18 Nov 2017 16:06:17 EST ID:bPnGTkaW No.357433 Ignore Report Quick Reply
also, i love reading the trip reports on erowid for nitrous. sometimes you read shit that nails that feeling you thought you'd never be able to describe.

>All i could hear was the music, and it didn't sound like music. It sounded like people screaming in a weird voice.


but for real, this one hits me hard

>When I enter the déjà vu, it's like being hit with this sudden realization (epiphany like even) that I have been in this very moment before, and in fact, this eternal moment is my true reality. It seems as if my whole life leading up to this moment is just an illusion that I've tricked myself into believing, and I can see that I am in an endless cycle of living this illusory life all the way up to inhaling the nitrous and finally coming to the great realization while knowing I will soon forget this truth, and I will soon start the cycle all over again by returning to that false life (sobriety).
David Clunnerstock - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 02:12:29 EST ID:IqgnmU+/ No.357449 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Yeah that quote is pretty bang on. I've tried to write it down a couple of times (in English). I basically just end up with pic related.
Fanny Brookham - Sun, 19 Nov 2017 08:20:38 EST ID:UkPrpHjj No.357459 Ignore Report Quick Reply
When I take nitrous, I get this weird kind of... understanding? That this whole dimension is a joke and we all came here because we got tricked into it, in a totally harmless and funny way, like getting trolled by some nth dimensional trickster. And whenever you reach your true consciousness through nitrous the only thing you can do is laugh at this dimension and yourself and the fact that you're even here in the first place. It feels like you and all your nth dimensional friends all get together and have a laugh about reality and the way we got suckered into it, and reminiscing/laughing at all the times we did before Like, I totally remember the thought process for the joke but it's hard to translate because it references to shit from outside our reality. The best I can do at translating the joke is its something about this dimension being bait that we fell for, and the dude that tricked us did so by saying "oh, that nth dimensional joke? It's not funny until you've been to nth dimension first" and the joke is that we got tricked into the very same joke the first few times, laughed like duck, then asked why it was funny, then got told the same joke again, only to find it even more funny the next time round, out of idk, countless times. And that's the reason its funny, because the joke keeps infinitely folding in on itself and you can't even remember why it was funny the first time round.

Basically, our true consciousness is that of a child, getting stoned as fuck for the first time, then pissing himself laughing at nothing, forgetting what was funny, then laughing even harder because he doesn't know why he is laughing. The weird thing is, I never physically laugh when I'm tripping, but it's still the funniest joke I've ever heard to this day.
Walter Wushked - Sun, 26 Nov 2017 16:13:15 EST ID:rLVXzvNW No.357717 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I've done 2cb weed then nos and found it pretty comparable to md weed and nos. Didn't smoke that much after the 2cb though and was only on coke so not sure if that would change how effective it was.
Angus Fodgekodging - Sun, 26 Nov 2017 17:19:05 EST ID:QWyQQCNk No.357718 Ignore Report Quick Reply
This has never happened with me on N2O, but it always happens on salvia.
Wesley Ponkinfuck - Sun, 26 Nov 2017 18:10:29 EST ID:FJntMSTN No.357721 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Anyone else here does think we are the trickster himself? Please tell me more
Fanny Brublingforth - Sun, 26 Nov 2017 18:59:48 EST ID:AmEQ1MVR No.357722 Ignore Report Quick Reply

Yep, and with every time I do it it seems like I "understand" more than the last time. I've tried explaining the premise of this "universal joke" to a friend who was also doing NOS at the same time but the premise faded too quickly for me to put it into words, assuming I ever could put it into words to begin with.

One thing I noticed though, is that I feel like I'm not supposed to know the punchline to this joke until I die, and something is telling me that I don't need to know it and I shouldn't know it just yet, and it feels kind of scary in that sense. I know I'm not in any physical danger but it feels like a near death experience every time it happens with enough nitrous.

Crazy shit, man.
Ebenezer Droppernuck - Sun, 26 Nov 2017 21:57:57 EST ID:Vq4k48QS No.357736 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Dont be afraid of nothing, i think thats the punchline.
Charlotte Heblingsune - Mon, 27 Nov 2017 01:23:08 EST ID:FCsxyGwb No.357745 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> also, is it just me or do the thoughts you get feel like inside jokes that only you will ever understand?
Yes, but >>357459 >>357722 clearly we're not the only ones. And this is actually so fucking funny. I read these posts like 3 times and started thinking about it, and I've heard that joke. I've been, am, and always will be that joke. I actually started cackling out loud so hard my neighbors could probably hear. Cause it really is the funniest fucking joke in the world.

We just all hear slightly different versions of the joke.
> something about this dimension being bait that we fell for, and the dude that tricked us did so by saying "oh, that nth dimensional joke? It's not funny until you've been to nth dimension first"
That's a really well told version of the joke. In my version, and again it's really hard to convey a joke that's conveyed beyond spacetime let alone language but: the whole universe is a thought being had, and when you get to the moment where you think it, the punchline is something like "why didn't I think of it before?" But we did... And it's weird because reading those two things they seem like entirely unrelated jokes, but they have the same meaning to me. I don't think I'm telling it very well, but alas.

Part of the joke is definitely the cyclical nature of the joke itself. And that the telling of the joke requires the entire universe as a set-up and then the punchline is that the joke has already been told.
Ebenezer Droppernuck - Mon, 27 Nov 2017 02:08:07 EST ID:Vq4k48QS No.357746 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I meant in regards to death in general (nothingness), just so im not misinterpreted, life is it, death is not, its the experiences we create that matter

Edwin Simblelock - Mon, 27 Nov 2017 06:33:44 EST ID:IloN6QLN No.357750 Ignore Report Quick Reply
We are all cosmic comics.
Jack Clurringbanks - Mon, 27 Nov 2017 11:28:05 EST ID:nOzyCvUs No.357752 Ignore Report Quick Reply
So I ended up talking to some other guys online about nos when it seemed like this thread was dead, and we talked about the joke and understanding the universe and all that shit. But one guy in particular mentioned the fact that the messages of universal understanding and the jokes were being told by the visuals you kinda see. His interpretation was that the message was being told in circles, and that there was a line that hit certain degrees of the circle and the messages were being deciphered through that method. Where as I mainly saw squares and triangles, with angled lines leading to the next shape, and to me the language was deciphered through the angles of the lines and the dimension of the shapes, also possibly through the audio hallucinations too. What a weird fucking drug. Acid and shit changes your perspective so that you think about weird shit, but nos straight up tells you an ancient dimensional joke translated through shapes and angles and shit
Jack Clurringbanks - Mon, 27 Nov 2017 11:36:31 EST ID:nOzyCvUs No.357753 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Nah, I'd say the punchline is definitely existential, but as someone who believes in the fractal afterlife and infinite reincarnation, it seems to me more like a joke about existing physically instead of just mentally. Or even existing at all. Idk how I came to this conclusion but I feel like that's what the drugs are trying to tell me
Phineas Fanworth - Mon, 27 Nov 2017 13:30:34 EST ID:YfgCJ32R No.357755 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> the message was being told in circles, and that there was a line that hit certain degrees of the circle
William Dommerwan - Mon, 27 Nov 2017 22:57:44 EST ID:pyI6+/eH No.357759 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Hippy crack.

Also, fascinating effects on the perception of the passing of time made most prominent in combination with other substances.
Edwin Blammlekutch - Thu, 30 Nov 2017 00:01:02 EST ID:uFuwd1p1 No.357810 Ignore Report Quick Reply
my friend and I eached huffed a whipped cream king can while tripping on acid
it was like a two-way 3-minute ticket to hyperspace
Edwin Blammlekutch - Thu, 30 Nov 2017 00:01:29 EST ID:uFuwd1p1 No.357811 Ignore Report Quick Reply
my friend and I each huffed a whipped cream king can while tripping on acid
it was like a two-way 3-minute ticket to hyperspace
Nell Giblinggold - Thu, 30 Nov 2017 13:29:54 EST ID:uOXbY88b No.357817 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Never done nitrous, but I've done dozens of psychedlics a couple of hundred times and dxm a couple of hundred times. I just read through a lot of this thread to read trip reports (despite the fact I still never want to try nitrous) and that feeling that people have described as "universal understanding," or >>357459 talking about how the universe is all a joke seems to be a really common theme.

The universal understanding, a.k.a. "the logos." I was there a couple of weeks ago when I became god during a fourth plat dxm trip. Then the comedy of realizing the universe doesn't actually exist, none of this is real, a.k.a. "the cosmic giggle."

Why would anything exist, ever, at all, for any reason? What's pre-eminent to reality? How could anything ever exist? Where did it come from, or if the universe has always existed, how?
Fuck Billingridge - Thu, 30 Nov 2017 15:19:11 EST ID:bPnGTkaW No.357821 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Have you also noticed how the entire universe is catered towards consciousness? For real, what would be the fucking point of all this shit if consciousness wasn't there to experience it? We have the ability to sense all the senses, aswell as their origin somehow birthed in the universe and also somehow there happens to be life that can interact with all this shit. How the fuck did life evolve to be able to sense shit in the first place? Are we really buying into the whole evolution through chance shit? I get that evolution is real and it's super interesting and shit, but do we honestly believe that it all happened by chance mutations and that bacterial life had no idea what was going on, like we just happened upon being able to sense shit? If that was the case, we would have all started off as senseless cronenbergs and eventually molded into the life we see today. Which would probably taken quadrillions of years, not billions, if anything. Bacterial life is smart enough to make a system of efficient roads (see some fungi somewhere I forget which ones) and then evolve to make veins and all the shit in brains and neurology somehow, creating fucking emotions and all that shit.

The universe is a simulation, and we laugh at it when on drugs because it is so stupidly dumbed down compared to what "real existence" must be. Which I imagine to be a consciousness where we converse super in-depth language through fractals, combined with every emotion we have and more, but that eventually gets boring so we throw ourselves into life where shit is seemingly complex as fuck, and everything in comparison is slowed down and mellow, much more immersive, like playing a videogame in comparison to real life. Or at least that's my theory on existence after taking drugs. Why do our brains love fractals so much if we couldn't even see what light is until millions/billions of years ago. I bet someone who was blind from birth would be able to see a DMT trip for example, the shit seems to be visual but also majorly transcends basic human sight. It's like the brain's inner workings show up or something. To me, it would just make sense if everything we sensed was computed through fractals or something computery like that, considering our brains are basically super computers. Idk, you guys have taken drugs before, do you agree with what i'm saying?

Also, I heard nitrous can really pick up an already intense trip, taking you even further. So even if you aren't wanting to try it by itself, maybe consider taking it in combination with another dis, or maybe even a psy. I'd recommend 2 balloons in quick succession to really get a pump out of it. But eh, you said you don't want to try nos for whatever reason so I'll leave you be. Shit's cool and as harmless as any other drug though.
Hannah Dishsure - Thu, 30 Nov 2017 22:38:48 EST ID:bBbM9Fwz No.357829 Ignore Report Quick Reply
> I get that evolution is real and it's super interesting and shit, but do we honestly believe that it all happened by chance mutations and that bacterial life had no idea what was going on, like we just happened upon being able to sense shit?

As I understand it (and I'm 100% a layperson wikipedia asshole), evolution isn't entirely passive, not only is your ability to reproduce and who with dictated by conscious decision, but so is the heritable epigenetic expression of whatever genes you pass on when you do reproduce. So if you consciously choose your environment, that environment then influence the genetic expression (but not the genetic code) of your offspring, who then go onto use that expression, given their environment, to find a mate who, given their genetic expression, seems ideal given their environment.

What would be wild is if epigenetic expression modified which genes were selected when creating sperm/ova, cause then they would have a more baseline effect. But I don't think there's any evidence for this. It doesn't mean that epigenes have no permanent effect, though, because not only are they heritable, but they also modify who you select and who selects you for reproduction.

Although obviously the emergence of consciousness itself is a conspiratorial nexus of whatever physical and metaphysical forces exist, so it isn't truly random insofar as how random the basic forces of the universe are (which may not be random at all, but also might be).

Still, I really like the idea of it all being up to personal development smh. Maybe it is with more advanced cultures who can directly influence their own DNA.
Phyllis Buckleforth - Fri, 01 Dec 2017 16:32:49 EST ID:tk4VI4I5 No.357853 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Free will is a funny little joke that our brains play on us, and is mostly a product of our odd social structure, much of which we share with chimps. "conscious decisions" do not formulate until after the brain has already unconsciously committed to an action. We have virtually no control over our own behavior.

Epigenetics is WAY more complicated than you are representing it. There are so many factors that are virtually impossible to control, and the field is so new anyway it's absurd to be talking it like it's just a linear function of x causes y. For every "conscious decision" that we reason could epigentically influence our own gene expression, there are an infinite amount of uncontrollable stimuli and responses constantly shaping your biology.

Try some biology lectures or something. This stuff is actually super interesting but you really gotta let go of the idea that we are in control of anything in our lives, which for some reason is really hard for a lot of people.
Hamilton Bronkinbury - Fri, 01 Dec 2017 18:57:23 EST ID:bPnGTkaW No.357855 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Sometimes I like to think that not only is free will a trick, and we are basically strapped into a flesh rollercoaster of consciousness, but we are also every living being conscious at the exact same time, just shit is so complex that within that split second it takes for the brain to realise what's happening, we have already lived every other conscious moment simultaneously. Like the super tiny amount of lag you experience when playing a single-player video game, you are acting slightly faster than what you see on the screen, but at the same time can only react in time based on what you see. We are all the same consciousness split throughout all life. We are all one.

When I put it this way I kinda feel like it helps explain the thoughts I had on mushies to be sane, almost. I wanted all of life to form into a mega-collective, like when the power rangers combine their shit, like a combined mecha. But then I thought to myself, come on man, how would that even work? Even if we were all on drugs there is no way we would be able to combine our consciousnesses like that. Some shit is just too far out for the world as it is right now... Maybe one day, though... Maybe.
Matilda Lightstone - Sat, 02 Dec 2017 15:41:52 EST ID:tk4VI4I5 No.357879 Ignore Report Quick Reply
wife shouting from the other room: "I don't *want* to combine consciousnesses with this asshole!"
Shit Soddleford - Mon, 04 Dec 2017 05:01:27 EST ID:bBbM9Fwz No.357905 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I don't believe in free will either, but that does not mean that evolution is necessarily an entirely passive process, or that our lives are entirely passive processes.
Some of what you cannot control in your life is the result of actions taken by yourself/others (not even necessarily humans) at an earlier point. We have been shaped by others to be able to shape our own futures and the futures of others. We're only talking right now because a language was invented however long ago, and this entirely man-made construct has influenced reproduction since its inception. Its creation is random in an indirect sense, in that whatever inspired it was a chance occurrence, and it's still a deterministic process, but you can't deny the active role that humanity has played in its development- if nobody actively spoke English, regardless of whether it's a "choice" or not, it wouldn't exist. There are fish who have sexual dysfunctions because we dump hormones into the ocean when we pee. The evolutionary path of at least some group of creatures is inexorably altered because of a circumstance that at least someone could control. You could argue that it would have been impossible for us not to choose what we have chosen given the conditions that existed at the time, and I would agree, and that we're colonies of little machines, most of which we have next to no awareness of, and that they unknowingly conspire to become us and make us do what we do, and I would agree with that as well, but if they literally are us and they control us (themselves), we must also, then, have control. The only reason why we wouldn't would be is if there was a schism between one or more aspects of our mechanical bodies and another, like little biological countries engaged in lifelong civil war, and whatever it is that "we" are identifies with one side and not the other. So I think the real question is why it's like this, and how is it that it's even possible for us to identify with one thing and not another, and I'm sure others have answered it, but I haven't. And whether or not seceding is possible.

And back to the language thing, I think it's similar with things like sensory perception and the like, you have creatures with proto-senses and proto-proto-senses who unknowingly strive and struggle over the centuries to build what we have today, not really foreseeing the cause and effect but contributing to it anyway. It's not merely something that "happened to them" "out of nowhere" except for the very first link in the causal chain. They were the vehicle for making it happen, it is both something that they made happen and that happened to them.

>Epigenetics is WAY more complicated than you are representing it
Of course it is. But it's also more complicated than the simplistic notion that nothing we do matters at all on any kind of scale whatsoever because everything is up to the non-whims of some externalized clockwork god-universe. If we literally are the convergence of some forces and those forces control some aspects of our environment, then we are controlling some aspects of our environment, and because our environment controls us and we control some aspects of it, we are controlling some aspects of ourselves.
Fanny Pockham - Wed, 06 Dec 2017 13:22:27 EST ID:jOEtPfaX No.357933 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>Have you also noticed how the entire universe is catered towards consciousness
How do figure? Ligotti takes the opposite viewpoint. How is a world filled with unfathomable suffering `catered towards consciounsess' I won't bother with the rest of your post since it's clear you don't really understand what evolution is.
Doris Chobbertet - Wed, 06 Dec 2017 14:12:52 EST ID:bPnGTkaW No.357934 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I'm not saying life is perfect, and I'd argue that suffering is part of life just as much as pleasure is, as would most people. But the relevance of pain/suffering wasn't a part of my point at all. I was talking about the physical side of the universe, not mental. To sum my post up in one sentence, what are the odds of the origin of our senses being birthed into the universe, as-well as a bacteria that would somehow be able to evolve into being able to sense all of these things and even be able to live in the first place?

And don't get me started on the whole "solar systems literally revolving around a big ball of life giving light".
Simon Dartforth - Thu, 07 Dec 2017 19:24:02 EST ID:Yp0OGhOz No.357972 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Where did life start period? No one knows ooooooOOOOOoooolo..... Could be anything but it evolved so that it may better propagate itself. The more complex life became the better it was at interfacing with its environment and the eventually changing it's environment to interface with it. Look up convergent evolution, it sort of illustrates how life is evolving in one direction geared at greater levels of understanding, complexity, and ability. Its the origin of life thats baffling. It can't be truly random but if there was some kind of design what designed the designer. For all we know there are subatomic particles that exert interdimensional inertia and there's a dimension or dimensions of life itself: all of everything is moving toward this point of convergence cause by the force of its collective momentum pullsing upon on itself. Who's to say at the end of the day. I was thinking though at some point if some life form were advanced enough wouldn't looking backward for them literally have them looking through the eyes of all that came before them? That is to say at a certain level of advancement can powers of observation become so great that observe is to see and experience across not just time but space? Are we all our own god(s) looking back at our old selves peering across time itself both understanding the children we were, capable of helping but indifferent knowing its what produces us? That kinda uses half-assed scifi logic to bridge the epicurean paradox. When you think ablut evolution though it always ends up in a place of advancement that we would consider god-like by lack of our own understanding, but its the origin that's truly perplexing.
Shit Bruffingstatch - Thu, 07 Dec 2017 20:06:26 EST ID:bPnGTkaW No.357973 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I get that evolution is really complex and eventual, with many mutations that result in a godlike being. But I do still kinda think that there is some guidance, beyond environmental and attraction factors. Just look at the molds that can create an efficient system of roads without even a brain to work off. It just knows this shit, and I'm not saying that it also didn't evolve to that point, I'm just confused as to how a "random" mutation would be able to form an efficient system like that in the first place. So what, the DNA just randomly mutated into an efficient system of roads? Even if it slowly evolved into that state, how would that even happen? I don't know man, I personally believe that all life is a bit more self aware than what we think.
Simon Dartforth - Thu, 07 Dec 2017 20:41:50 EST ID:Yp0OGhOz No.357974 Ignore Report Quick Reply
No that mold is just going path of least resistance/greatest efficiency. Life always seeks to make more life and as much life as possible with whats available. Thats why 100 calories can carry an average human body up to 6000 feet or so. Life has always gone more for less if at all possible and though apposing forms create competition its that competition that spurs advancement and all of that is only possible when the available existing life strikes a balance. All the way back to the first creatures to see(that we know of) the trilobites up to complex intelligent mamals it is all of life feeding off of and competing with other life within an appropriate balance that allows for it to behave as it does. All of this is painfully complicated and intricately intertwined on a level that boggles the collective minds of scientists and laymen everywhere. Just take a few square inches of your skin for example. Depending on where on your body there millions of life forms there, and we have no idea if any serve a purpose like the ones in our gut. You human(homo sapien sapiens) are a walking ecosystem with millions of passengers made up of complex protiens that weave carbon atoms so elegantly and quickly we lack the ability to observe let along comprehend it. Fuck, just look up how chaperones(heat shock protiens) work, it is god damn mind boggling.
Shit Bruffingstatch - Thu, 07 Dec 2017 22:40:42 EST ID:bPnGTkaW No.357978 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>No that mold is just going path of least resistance/greatest efficiency

Shit i forgot about path of least resistance, i'm a retard. I looked up a bit of HSP and it just fucked me up even more on how it's basically super complex coding, just like all of life I guess, I shouldn't be so surprised. But my confusion is more based on the nature of the universe itself, not just life. I ended up going on that tangent because I thought I was onto something about evolution but the more I know now, the more respect I have for the workings of the universe. But it's shit in the universe and the origin of evolution that gets me the most. The fact that solar systems revolve around a ball of life giving, evolution enhancing light, like what the fuck is that about? Never mind all the other shit responsible for life/evolution. Is life being sustainable responsible by these conditions, or would life have simply flourished in another way if there was some other mass of chemicals at the centre of our solar system, or another form of basic senses to go off? Or on a deeper note, is there an infinite amount of universes that work in totally different ways, and we just happen to exist in one where shit works? How does shit work in the first place man? There's just too much shit that works. All this shit just spawned in the universe and life adapted to work with it, which is dumb as fuck to speculate from a scientific point of view, which is why I guess this stuff is on the side of spirituality, simply because science isn't advanced enough to explain it, but it's for that reason which makes me wonder if there is some higher form of existence that is responsible for the universe itself. Everything is too harmonious, even if there is an intellectual understanding (to some extent) on how everything is so seemingly perfect, when it can be deducted that it's all down to a science in some form or another. Despite that, I just don't see how there isn't anything greater than our current dimension of existence.

And then you take drugs and you are like, "Why the fuck does my brain love fractals so much? Why is it that nitrous seems to translate a transcendent message through angles on a shape? Why do a lot of drugs induce a transcendent state at all?". Maybe it is just taking our minds to a place that we are too non-advanced to comprehend, but still fits in with the ways of the universe. Maybe it is some kind of illusion or trickery that we can't comprehend either, and we're too dumb to realise that it's nonsense. But based on the fact that we're here and conscious in the first place, just roaming around a super complex universe that may as well be made of magic, I feel pretty comfy accepting that there is a higher form of existence that we are connected to.
John Paffingstane - Sat, 09 Dec 2017 01:00:10 EST ID:I+xVTchH No.358007 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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What harm reduction advice do you have for a first timer?

Is food grade Nitrous safe?
Edwin Maffingfuck - Sat, 09 Dec 2017 02:05:28 EST ID:MUNvGBfc No.358009 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Thats what most people use is food grade.

Use a balloon, take slow deep breaths so you get oxygen without hyperventilating too much (bonus: buy breathable oxygen in a can), take b vitamin complex for a couple days before, have 5 hour energy too because it has a lot of b vitamjns (most arnt absorbed but the goal is increasing your bodys natural supply as much as possible before hand) and do the same a few days after, take breaks after every 15 or so whippets so you can come down and think clearly for a minute and reoxygenate before diving back in again, dont breath pure nitrous for too long because the body cant tell it isnt getting oxygen, it just checks for higher levels of co2 so a full breath of nitrous may as well be not breathing for the time you hold it so do that sparingly and always get some deep breaths afterwards. Those are the most basic rules to safety with nitrous. Lemme know if you wanna know what happens if you break any rules.

Seriously, ill answer em.

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