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MXE by Rebecca Buzzfuck - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 15:42:18 EST ID:GiEcjgH7 No.362001 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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Sup /dis/, I haven't done a dissociative in over a year if I don't count a gram of ketamine which was somewhat disappointing experience. I fucking miss MXE so much, those were the times. I wonder if you guys have read this MXE book by Vortech, who passed earlier this year. RIP. I chatted with him many times.

https://archive.org/details/AMultidisciplinaryMXEAnalysis-Vortech

I feel that MXE and dissos (mostly 3-MeO-PCP) ruined other drugs for me. I know some of you truly enjoy DXM but I always disliked it for the nasty vomiting on the come up (syrup or DXM powder, didn't matter, if I went over 300mg I always vomited) and it felt too heavy or something. But I feel sorry for you if you haven't done other dissos, because there are a lot better options.

I stopped using dissociatives and most drugs for a year after 3-MeO-PCP induced psychosis. I think I used it over a month or two almost daily, maybe a few grams in a year but I can't really remember exact amounts. At the end I was eyeballing the shit and also drinking alcohol and smoking weed. I was having a hard time IRL and started using it to escape my problems which eventually lead to psychosis and a short visit to psych ward. Really frightening experience. I still miss 3-MeO-PCP and it shares the #1 place with MXE. As vortech said, 3meo was when doing life and MXE was for xcape. Or something.

What are you MXE lovers doing nowadays? I can't find any great dissos really anymore, pretty much only ketamine is available here and it's so expensive and I don't really like it nearly as much as 3-MeO-PCP or MXE that I would buy it more than once in a year. 3-MeO-PCE seems interesting for sure.
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Rebecca Buzzfuck - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 15:56:44 EST ID:GiEcjgH7 No.362002 Ignore Report Quick Reply
And why this board is so inactive nowadays? fuck I just want to get dissociated everyday and go manic.
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Clara Herringsuck - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 18:40:32 EST ID:Dx3RluHm No.362005 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Fuck! Not Vortech too! Goddamnit! We just keep losing ‘em; too fast, too soon.
RIP fellow disciple.

But, O-PCE is the best thing since MXE.
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Doris Pizzlemidging - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 19:05:44 EST ID:/AxbUTn1 No.362007 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362001

After MXE became harder and harder to find I had about a years run with ephenidine, which was an amazingly rewarding compound but due to needing 300+ mgs a dose it was an expensive one. Then that became much like MXE in terms of availability. I tried o-pce but wasn't a fan. After ephenidine I was using DCK weekly for about 2 years. Thankfully high quality DCK wasn't difficult to find until China banned it and fucked everything up. Now I work too much to do dissociatives frequently and still keep a job. I'm interested in giving 2FDCK a try sometime but don't know of anywhere reliable to find it.
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Simon Crallershaw - Wed, 06 Jun 2018 22:46:28 EST ID:dmZHcjnS No.362009 Ignore Report Quick Reply
a piece of me is dead now that mxe is gone.
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Nigel Bruggleshaw - Thu, 07 Jun 2018 01:09:54 EST ID:V4CNXYH/ No.362010 Ignore Report Quick Reply
How'd Vortech die?

I kinda felt like he was dissociatiing too much anyway.
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Nigel Bruggleshaw - Thu, 07 Jun 2018 01:11:08 EST ID:V4CNXYH/ No.362011 Ignore Report Quick Reply
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>>362009
ah, china's just waiting to bring it back and sell it at $100/g or something.
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Hannah Handlechare - Thu, 07 Jun 2018 08:41:24 EST ID:zMly4I4+ No.362014 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362010

Cancer
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Walter Sissleville - Thu, 07 Jun 2018 12:17:22 EST ID:Dx3RluHm No.362019 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362009
It’ll be back. Fuck it took 30 years for DOM to come back around but somebody made sure to make it happen. MXE is only a matter of time. How much tome though is potentially disturbing.
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Walter Sissleville - Thu, 07 Jun 2018 12:17:47 EST ID:Dx3RluHm No.362020 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362014
Fuck cancer!
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Ernest Wommlestadging - Thu, 07 Jun 2018 20:32:05 EST ID:3eXxofpk No.362027 Ignore Report Quick Reply
3meopcp is the next best thing, MXE was beast. those pesky chinese need to bring it back, i know they can. we must start getting signatures. #bringbackMXE2018
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Samuel Fambledale - Thu, 07 Jun 2018 20:50:50 EST ID:kEIfpj5W No.362028 Ignore Report Quick Reply
as a former MXE diety, I didn't miss it too much since getting into DCK. 3meo was pretty great, but it didnt scratch the astral itch that MXE did. Now that DCK is banned, i've just been sucking down a lot of 3ho and ket.
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Ian Dartham - Fri, 08 Jun 2018 09:36:44 EST ID:1i1KC3HP No.362031 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362020
Well fuck you too then buddy!
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Nicholas Bebblechet - Sun, 10 Jun 2018 08:25:04 EST ID:Mt1WLYVL No.362050 Ignore Report Quick Reply
i usualy dont post but MXE sure brought up some good memories. Nowadays i dont really have time to experiment but since summer is coming im also wondering what good alternatives exist nowadays
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Edward Pickridge - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 01:16:07 EST ID:N3D2Ovb+ No.362070 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362001
I just don't take /dis/ anymore, really. For the last 2 years of my undergrad I would regularly dose MXE. Usually around 4 times per month between ages 20 and 22.
The last time I had K, which was about a year ago, I bumped a .3 and was horrifically disappointed that my /dis/ tolerance was still so high. Tried a moderate-high dosage of DXM around 2 years ago with only negative side-effects.
I did have an outstandingly positive DXM experience around a year ago, but then tried the same dosage (~700mg) a month and a half later with no positive effects.

I have been wanting to try o-pce and DCK (I know it's gone now), but I just haven't gotten around to it. Nitrous oxide became a replacement, but it can never match MXE or K by any stretch.
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George Higglekone - Tue, 12 Jun 2018 13:07:34 EST ID:SVPJ0vyH No.362079 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I remember when MXE first appeared and sites were only selling single grams due to demand.
I got my gram bag and railed a line half the size of ketamine.
I spent the next hour and a half solidly glued to my bed.
Mixing MXE and let to get "methox-ketamine" gave some real great times too. I remember MXE, K and a bottle of ether whilst lying on the floor watching the (animated) transformers movie from the 80s with a few friends. Shit was so intense.
Or playing PS move disc golf on mxe.
Shit I've just realized how many awesome memories I have of mxe.
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James Wabbletudging - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 20:06:35 EST ID:6EzWwMED No.362108 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I still have some and do not live it due to depersonalization 0.o
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James Wabbletudging - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 20:08:14 EST ID:6EzWwMED No.362109 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362108
like it
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Edwin Fablingford - Wed, 13 Jun 2018 20:21:31 EST ID:TdKCtl48 No.362110 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362070

Tey slow dosing dxm. Take 180 to start, another 180 an hour later, and 1-2hr later take the rest of your dose, say 600mg, over the course of 30-60mins no more no less. Take it slowly, not all at once. This will give you an astounding trip regardless of tolerance.

Seriously, attempt this and report back before you write off dxm and other dissos?
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David Cripperdark - Sat, 16 Jun 2018 21:59:24 EST ID:N3D2Ovb+ No.362153 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362110
I did a 700mg dosage spread over 3 hours the last time I tried DXM last spring. That was the worst /dis/ experience that I've ever had. I might try again in a couple months.

Also, I never wrote off dissociatives. I simply became too busy with grad school and my fiancée. She's down with /psy/ but has been wanting to take /dis/. I would like to get a solid, well-known, sedating RC /dis/.
K is always a go-to.
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Fuck Pittbury - Sun, 17 Jun 2018 18:44:04 EST ID:6Yd2oTOC No.362173 Ignore Report Quick Reply
fuck DXM. Why every noob here does DXM?
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Simon Huggleridge - Sun, 17 Jun 2018 23:47:10 EST ID:8dtuQ0UU No.362179 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362173
easy to get, feels good, pretty therapeutic, im a psych vet and i still havent made my way round to any of the rcs or ket, i suppose with robocough out too, now everyone can do dxm relatively easily
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Martha Mebberwater - Mon, 18 Jun 2018 06:42:53 EST ID:8xj15ucZ No.362189 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362173
Literally hundreds of psy trips under my belt and I still love DXM. You do know people can like things you don't like right? You also know just because you don't like something doesn't mean it's a terrible thing? Come to think of it should you be online without your parents' permission?
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Nigel Seffingbanks - Mon, 18 Jun 2018 10:37:13 EST ID:h6Wnkt/7 No.362191 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362173
Yeah. Hundreds of /psy/ trips, hundreds of /dis/ trips (on 16 different /dis/ chems, 8 of which are ACHAs) and I honestly consider DXM to be one of the most amazing drugs out there. I don't use it nearly as much as our beloved ACHAs because it's so hard on the body, but when I do, combined with /psy/s I find it to reliably create some of the most powerful and rewarding trips I've ever had.
nb cause troll or go fuck yourself or whatever
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Doris Bullertodging - Fri, 22 Jun 2018 05:47:48 EST ID:d4RZ2ug/ No.362237 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362009
This. I lost the best part of my life.

There were some lasting benefits - I came out of it a better, more whole-and-together person than I started - but those were the best days of my life, and I miss them. DXM was like a breath of fresh air to someone drowning. It helped for a few days - it was a godsend - and then life was grinding and empty again. MXE was finding dry land.

I could fill pages with what I like about this drug, but I'm just going to lay out a few slaient points. First - and not least - is the lack of side effects. "True," out-of-the-gate 2010-2012 MXE is the gentlest drug I've ever done. It's ironic that the authorities went after it so fast, and so hard. For all its effects, sometimes I would feel... a little "off" for an hour or two the next morning. Nothing else.

An adjunct to that - it's the only completely "clearheaded" dissociative I've experienced. With most of them, I get to a point where I find it hard to compose a sentence. With MXE, I was inspired; I wrote pages and pages. Lateral thinking was improved; cognition was fine. Some delusions of grandeur (mania) to watch out for, though.

I have never cried for beauty, before or after MXE (the first time, I was watching the movie "Chronos." Ron Fricke is a genius). That was one of my favorite effects: even a light dose (~20mg) was like taking off a veil I'd been wearing my entire life. Everything was just aesthetically better. I could see the beauty, in the world that - up until that point - I didn't have many positive thoughts on. What my mind might dismiss as "a tree" as soon as my eyes passed over it - I SAW that tree again. It was there.

Higher doses brought a kind of gnostic euphoria, a very Zen feeling of oneness/connectivity - experiencing nondualism. The bread and butter of MXE was the catharsis, though. There was a sparkly, "clean" feeling I've never had before or since that's hard to describe. I would give a lot to feel that clean again. It was like a soul-deep renewal, just thrown in as an incidental side effect to go along with everything else.

If you've every been really - truly - thirsty (I was once, not allowed to drink for three days in the hospital), and you're feverish, and someone presents you with a cup of ice water... it was like that. Some of that feeling persisted in the days after the trip. After all my experiences, a little of that stayed with me - not as much as I'd like, but enough.

I could get through anything on a given day when MXE was around, because I could drop into deep meditative bliss when I got home, and listen to beautiful music (did I mention the MUSIC?) and write, and just drink in the revitalizing beauty and be whole.

So the governments of the world called it a "danger," because people were using it to "get high." They cited a couple of cases where some kid did fifty different drugs and drowned in a drainage pond or something... and they won, easily. They destroyed something beautiful.

It's worth noting that I lost the best friend I've every had to MXE. He was a "straight" guy I'd kept my life-long interest in drugs hidden from... for twelve years... and he found out. It's funny how fast someone you think of as a brother can turn on you.

It doesn't make sense to me; it's like I sneezed the wrong way and that was that. To some people, drug use - off any kind - is like a soul-rotting evil to be burned away by any means possible. I think that's very sad.

...so what have I been doing?

I haven't done many drugs since then. After 2012 (the UK ban), I tried "MXE" from any number of sources. All came up short. Either none of them could synthesize it correctly - or there are some effects attributable to isomerism/chirality - or the original "MXE" was actually some other drug. I have no idea. I ran out of one batch (US vendor selling out the last of the UK stock), and it was gone forever.

I messed around with the common RCs a little. 3-meo-pcp was enjoyable; it was good for relaxing. It felt a lot like floating in a hot tub on that level. Killed off my cognitive abilities completely, though; I could barely string a sentence together. Some of the aftereffects (sudden dizzy spells) were too much for me, and I quit. O-PCE had a similar "cognitive blunting" effect, but offered good dissociation, and was a nice adjunct to other drugs. Ketamine was better than MXE in some ways - a "purer" experience, in the hole - for an hour at a time, and worth very little outside the hole. Less if you aren't willing to inject, and have to put up with the nasal trauma. There were a bunch of bunk RCs, like MXM. My use of other drugs tapered off. I like opioids, and I'd do an oxy or two if someone offered it to me, and the next day or two was free. Weed once in a blue moon with the family, on holidays usually, because my father's side of the family is like that.

Regular drugs? Couple of beers a night, some kratom. Boring. Never tried DCK; life prevented me from dipping in at that point.

By "life," I mean that I became a commercial pilot. That was - ironically - something I conceived of during a middling-to-strong MXE trip. When I got my life together - and MXE was out of the picture, and other drugs weren't that appealing - I went for it. It was expensive as hell and more stress than I want to talk about sometimes, but I did it. ...so drugs aren't really a thing anymore.

They probably will be, at some point, when I get out of it. As things are, I have to be on a good vacation before I can consider anything at all. Even typing that here feels, sadly, really wrong and risky. I can't fault that impulse, though (you get on a 747 and your captain is dexing? FUCK). It's mostly worth it.

I was going through some hard times a few years ago, though, and MXE helped me "see the light." The beauty in life, some reason for dealing with this dry-sandpaper world and trying to grow a garden in hell instead of saying "fuck it." And I may never feel like that again.

I was Buddha, walking the earth. I was everything I saw, and everything I saw broke my heart with with beauty and depth; everything was naked, and sacred, and exactly as it was supposed to be. I loved it, and I miss it.
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Doris Bullertodging - Fri, 22 Jun 2018 05:53:27 EST ID:d4RZ2ug/ No.362238 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362001
I read Vortech's book, and I would describe it as a labor of love. I'm quoted in it several times (as "Pelyphin"). I spoke to him just a few years ago, and I guess death is inevitable, but I am surprised and saddened to hear that he's gone.
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Shitting Bugglestudge - Fri, 22 Jun 2018 11:59:26 EST ID:RQNgzYsT No.362245 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362237
>I was Buddha, walking the earth. I was everything I saw, and everything I saw broke my heart with with beauty and depth; everything was naked, and sacred, and exactly as it was supposed to be.
I felt this the first two or three years into DXM. God do I miss it. I tried to revive it with sigmemeing but I just went insane instead (was still okay though I guess).

Wish I jumped on the MXE train. I remember being too paranoid to get it shipped to my house, and this was back when it was a cheaper habit than store bought DXM. Maybe I could've drawn it out a little longer. Oh well.

I wish people knew how it felt despite the way you externally present.
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Matilda Ponderson - Sun, 24 Jun 2018 00:08:56 EST ID:08cnX6uh No.362298 Ignore Report Quick Reply
Vortech said he lurked here sometimes and we were writing a book about 3-MeO-PCP which I have a copy of. We were wondering where to get people to contribute and he though you guys weren't the sharpest pencils in the box. Heh
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Martha Geblingwater - Sun, 24 Jun 2018 20:28:42 EST ID:V4CNXYH/ No.362301 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362298
B)
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Caroline Cemmleway - Mon, 25 Jun 2018 08:40:10 EST ID:sEpVSREs No.362308 Ignore Report Quick Reply
I too love MXE, but does anyone think that it's looked back so fondly on because no one got a chance to get TOO deep with it? I mean, 1-2 years of production and a hard stop. It's like being forced to go sober which can be a great thing for people. The small taste without the shitty side-effects of really extended use.

IDK. Just an idea.
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Esther Morryfoot - Mon, 25 Jun 2018 09:02:07 EST ID:GiEcjgH7 No.362310 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362308

I think people abused it easily 3-4 years from 2010 to 2014ish and some even after that
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Ebenezer Chuggleshit - Mon, 25 Jun 2018 10:25:46 EST ID:h6Wnkt/7 No.362311 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362308
> no one got a chance to get TOO deep with it
There are plenty of people who did hundreds of grams of the stuff.
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Doris Claywell - Mon, 25 Jun 2018 19:51:29 EST ID:/AxbUTn1 No.362318 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362311

Can confirm. 3-4 years extensive use for me. Easily went through a hundred grams, probably two if not more. When I started shit was still being made ultra pure in the UK. I've experienced just about everything MXE has to offer, and still itch for it like I've never tried it. It was just way too good of a drug for its own good.
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Nell Gacklelock - Tue, 26 Jun 2018 02:32:36 EST ID:Fe2bbqPy No.362320 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362001
I've always been quite curious about MXE, How does it compare to the DXM + N20 Combo?

I've known people that gave up drugs to have their eyes glitter when I mention MXE. I feel like I missed out. I don't think it's gone. Every chemical can be revived...So I'm not too salty about it.

DXM by itself after all this time isn't really too much. Like listening to a monthly radio program or bi annual (the case these days). Just vibrating on a specific frequency...very much like radio. Sublime...

I guess I just have the feeling that I already molded my brain to DXM/N20 so breaking out of that isn't really possible b/c I just don't have the same wanderlust. I could enjoy K and MXE probably but not create a new "magic"

I am curious if it still exists for me though.
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Nell Gacklelock - Tue, 26 Jun 2018 02:38:20 EST ID:Fe2bbqPy No.362321 Ignore Report Quick Reply
>>362320
Without N20 I can't enter the void it's like a crutch. I can stretch it out for a solid 1 hour with 24 chargers but I'm not going to get into a long love post about N20. Good gas is the cleanest feeling ever. Hard to believe it can get that much better...it took me forever to even be able to "take something back" and actually remember it. Certainly not cheap though...and much more fleeting. Feels the safest outside b12 issues.

Wondering about the comparison. Cheers.
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Betsy Grimbury - Wed, 27 Jun 2018 10:27:51 EST ID:8PBzsAHx No.362340 Ignore Report Quick Reply
MXE is my all time favorite drug. Above morphine and ketamine in my ranking, even. There has been no proper substitute, in my experience. 3-MeO-PCE offers a similar dissociative magic, like a chemical nostalgia, but otherwise, I don't enjoy it, and tolerance builds very quickly. It isn't all that similar to MXE, other than that magical feeling that I have a difficult time describing. It makes me feel like a child.

3-MeO-PCP is excellent, but for different reasons. I can't say that it is a substitute at all, but it does satisfy my disso craving. DCK is more reminiscent of ketamine. I am planning on using 3-HO-PCP this weekend, and I have high hopes for this one.


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